Jan. 29, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| ...jobs many Americans do not want to do. | ||
| So, how do you, how does President Trump make sure that the effort to deport people who are not in this country legally doesn't end up hurting Americans who want safe borders, absolutely, but also don't want to see even more higher prices in groceries? | ||
| Well, I'm sure it's not your position, Jake, you're just asking the question, that we should supply America's food. | ||
| With exploitative illegal alien labor, I obviously don't think that's what you're implying. | ||
| Only 1% of alien workers in the entire country work in agriculture. | ||
| The top destination for illegal aliens are large cities like New York, like Los Angeles, and small... | ||
| Industrial towns, of course, all across the Heartland, as we've seen with the Biden floods. | ||
| None of those illegal aliens are doing farm work. | ||
| Those 30,000 illegal aliens that Joe Biden dumped into Springfield... | ||
| Yeah, I'm talking about the ones that are... | ||
| No, no, no, but I'm explaining this. | ||
| It's important to understand. | ||
| No, you're kind of changing this subject. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Give me 30 minutes. | ||
| I'll go as deep as you want. | ||
| I'm explaining to you and your audience. | ||
| I'm talking about the ones that work in the agriculture industry. | ||
| You can come back and we can talk about the ones in the cities, I swear. | ||
| I'll do the whole answer. | ||
| The illegal aliens that Joe Biden brought into our country are not full stop doing farm work. | ||
| They are not. | ||
| The illegal aliens he brought in from Venezuela, from Haiti. | ||
| From Nicaragua, they are not doing farm work. | ||
| They are in our cities collecting welfare. | ||
| As for the farmers, there is a guest worker program that President Trump supports. | ||
| Over time as well, we will transition into automation, so we'll never have to have this conversation ever again. | ||
| But there's no universe in which this nation is going to allow... | ||
| The previous president to flood our nation with millions and millions of illegal aliens who just get to stay here. | ||
| And we are especially not going to allow a subset of those illegal aliens to rape and murder our citizens. | ||
| So we are going to unapologetically enforce our immigration laws. | ||
| And as I'm sure you will celebrate, we are going to unleash the power and might of the U.S. government to eradicate the presence of transnational threats on our soil. | ||
| Tuesday, 28 January, the year of early 2025. I have waited a long time for that. | ||
| That shows a level of confidence and don't give two F's. | ||
| And we're going to get this job done, and we're not taking it from the media anymore. | ||
| Today's an inflection point, folks. | ||
| Caroline Levitt. | ||
| First off, Taylor Botowich, Stephen Chung, Caroline Levitt, the comms team over there under Susie Wiles. | ||
| Total confidence in what they're doing. | ||
| Have restructured the White House Press Corps. | ||
| Have put the enemy of the people, which is the mainstream media, in their place. | ||
| Let them ask their questions. | ||
| You see, Jake Tapper is not asking a question there. | ||
| He's dead wrong. | ||
| And when Miller says, I see you want to change the subject. | ||
| Screw you, dude. | ||
| You're going to sit there and listen to the answer. | ||
| You're going to listen to the answer and you're going to like it. | ||
| CNN, this is why people hate you, and this is why no one watches you. | ||
| They detest you. | ||
| And Miller brought it to him with both barrels, and as you know, and I know, Stephen does not have the best bedside manner. | ||
| He just does not. | ||
| And it doesn't matter. | ||
| He's not there to make you, you're not going to get a warm fuzzy listening to Stephen Miller. | ||
| He's got a job to do, a task to do, and he said it. | ||
| To take care and to do it, to remove 12 to 15 million illegal alien invaders that Biden brought into this country to destroy this republic. | ||
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| And you heard Cortez beforehand, working class Hispanics will support you if you do this. | ||
| The most, Stevens down, it's Stark County, 97%. | ||
| Hispanic. | ||
| 97% Hispanic. | ||
| This is hardcore South Texas. | ||
| 97% Hispanic. | ||
| And Trump, in 16, we lost it by 60%. | ||
| That's 6-0. | ||
| Eight years later, we win it by 16 points. | ||
| That's 1-6. | ||
| This is what I was saying in Denton, Texas at this speech on Saturday night with a thousand people there. | ||
| Soros spent hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to turn Texas purple and ultimately blue. | ||
| Turn Texas blue. | ||
| Remember that campaign? | ||
| Why and how they were going to do it, Hispanics? | ||
| That the xenophobe, nativists, white nationalists were out to get them. | ||
| Nothing could be farther from the truth, and they know that. | ||
| Their lived experience tells them that. | ||
| Stephen Miller's not going to back down. | ||
| Caroline Levitt's not going to back down. | ||
| And now you have a media core that has the streaming services and the podcast. | ||
| You're going to be getting constant information. | ||
| You can't hide behind these BS narratives. | ||
| Today, they're sitting there whining about, oh, is the foreign aid cut off? | ||
| And, you know, is that hurting Americans? | ||
| They didn't care about American citizens. | ||
| They still don't care about American citizens. | ||
| Some radical judge today gave a TRO and really what is Russ Vogt's bombshell. | ||
| And this is getting control of the administrative state. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| You choke it off from oxygen. | ||
| What's its oxygen? | ||
| Money. | ||
| Cash money. | ||
| Your dollars. | ||
| Taxpayer dollars. | ||
| And they have no earthly idea where they're going. | ||
| That's where they're shutting this down. | ||
| Elon Musk and the guys at Doge, one of the first things they're going to do is they're following the money. | ||
| Where does all this stuff go? | ||
| We know where it comes from. | ||
| Taxpayers. | ||
| To the Treasury. | ||
| And into the apparatus. | ||
| In the apparatus, who knows who's got it? | ||
| Who knows where it's going? | ||
| And so all engines stop. | ||
| And they're freaking out. | ||
| President Trump, every day, there's so many actions. | ||
| There's a half a dozen to ten that would be major stories that that individual item would drive a news cycle that can't even get covered. | ||
| It gets a link on Drudge, a couple links on Citizens Free Press, and boom. | ||
| Something happened just right before we came on air. | ||
| Terry Schilling joins us. | ||
| Terry, I'll let you announce another bombshell. | ||
| If this was announced at any other time, it would take up two or three days in the news cycle. | ||
| And this is just, you know, it's like Howard says, ba-boom, ba-boom, ba-boom. | ||
| It was like on Inauguration Day when those guns were going off nonstop. | ||
| Terry Schilling, what did the President of the United States, it's the lead story of the Wall Street Journal right now, what just happened, sir? | ||
| President Trump signed an executive order essentially banning gender transitions for anyone 19 years and younger. | ||
| Steve, I sent you the full draft. | ||
| This is a long executive order. | ||
| I think it might be one of the longer ones that he has. | ||
| But it bans the funding of this stuff. | ||
| It instructs TRICARE to no longer provide these types of services. | ||
| It instructs the federal government to no longer rely on the WPATH guidelines. | ||
| That's the fake research group and the expert group that just endorses sex changes for minors. | ||
| They're the ones that were working with the HHS secretary last term under Biden to eliminate. | ||
| All age restrictions and all age recommendations so that you could get a gender transition as a five-year-old. | ||
| This is probably the biggest victory for those that want to return to the normalcy of sex-based governance around these policies instead of this gender identity nonsense. | ||
| It's too much winning almost, right? | ||
| This is a huge victory for President Trump. | ||
| He saw this for what it was, used it on the campaign trail. | ||
| He made promises to do this. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| He kept those promises, Steve. | ||
| There's never been a Republican like him. | ||
| There's never been a politician like him, at least for the past several decades. | ||
| It's a huge victory, not just for the pro-family movement. | ||
| This fight was started on War Room, Steve. | ||
| You guys were the only ones that would hear our movement out and what we were trying to get accomplished done. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I'm here to say thank you. | ||
| I'm here to make sure everyone here knows that they were part of something incredible. | ||
| These types of movements, they take billions of dollars to get over the finish line, but we did it with all your guys's help. | ||
| This is probably the most, this is way bigger than I could have even imagined. | ||
| Steve. | ||
| The protections that President Trump has signed into order today are way stronger and way bigger and better than I could have ever imagined. | ||
| The scale of this? | ||
| I want to go back to it real quickly. | ||
| The depth of it, the urgency of it, those are the three things that are defining the days of thunder. | ||
| But this just didn't start getting written on the morning of November 6th. | ||
| This is about the confidence people had at America's First Priorities, at American Principles Project, over with Terry, with Brandon Showalter, with so many people, the people at Project 2025, CRA. The length and depth of this executive order blows me even away about how well thought through it was. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| Steve, you said it earlier about Stephen Miller. | ||
| It's the confidence. | ||
| It's the, I don't give a F, right? | ||
| It is, we know what we're doing, we're done, we know the games you play, it's all boring. | ||
| And you're right, see, there were so many people that were part of this fight. | ||
| I think about the detransitioners, right, like Chloe Cole and Laura Becker, the people that sat down and did campaign ads with us to make sure voters knew what was at stake. | ||
| Riley Gaines has been fantastic in supporting President Trump. | ||
| And these parents, there's this January little John, she's got this Heartbreaking story, but also of triumph, where she wins back her daughter and got her to detransition, not go down this stuff. | ||
| There's so many people that were part of this fight that told their stories that were very simple. | ||
| And they just stood up and did the right thing. | ||
| And they supported President Trump when he promised to do the right things. | ||
| And it's just absolutely beautiful. | ||
| But Steve, I think ultimately what this gets down to is President Trump and all of us. | ||
| We had four years to really look back at how these guys played so dirty, how they deceived us. | ||
| We need to stop the deceit, Steve. | ||
| Stop the deceit needs to be the theme of this year because the media's been gaslighting us. | ||
| Our government's been gaslighting us. | ||
| It's absolutely atrocious. | ||
| And all the while, they've been gaslighting us on this gender and sex issue to build a $4.5 billion transgender industry of surgeries and hormone treatments. | ||
| For minors and adults, it's absolutely terrible, but their reign of terror is end. | ||
| Here's the big takeaway, though, Steve. | ||
| President Trump issues this executive order. | ||
| It's not even the executive world that's going to do it. | ||
| It's the medical liability insurance that's going to do this. | ||
| It's going to get jacked up, probably starting tomorrow. | ||
| If you're a provider that gives these surgeries and hormone treatments to minors, guess what's going up? | ||
| Your medical liability insurance premiums. | ||
| Those are going to go through the roof. | ||
| That's what's so smart about President Trump. | ||
| He thinks like a businessman and not necessarily like a politician. | ||
| We're so lucky to have him. | ||
| This is a huge victory for him, a huge victory for America, and a huge victory for our future. | ||
| Just to give people a heads up, they'll go into federal court tonight, correct? | ||
| They'll drop an emergency filing tonight to try to stop this. | ||
| Folks should know, a judge just gave a TRO until Monday for arguments in the stopping of $3 trillion flowing through the system that OMB put out last night. | ||
| A monumental, it wasn't even an executive order, it was just an action. | ||
| It was all hands on deck. | ||
| Hey, stop all cash, right? | ||
| They went to court right away. | ||
| They're going to go to court on this, no doubt. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But they're going to fight us. | ||
| There's too much money at stake. | ||
| There's too much power at stake. | ||
| And don't forget, there were a lot of politicians that lost this election over this issue. | ||
| So they're not going to go away quietly into the night. | ||
| They're going to fight us every single day. | ||
| But at the same time, Steve, it's very similar to the strategy on stopping all these reckless federal grants that are harming your country, is you put a stop in this, you stop them from doing it, and you bring into question the ethical and the medical liability aspect. | ||
| Steve, this fight is going to... | ||
| A lot of people don't know this, but lobotomies are not illegal in America. | ||
| They're totally legal, but no one will perform them on you because the medical liability insurance is way too high. | ||
| They can't afford it. | ||
| And that's how we're going to end this gender insanity. | ||
| This gender industry is through the medical liability insurance. | ||
| Terry Schilling, amazing work. | ||
| Where do folks get you? | ||
| Social media, American Principles Project, all of it, sir. | ||
| Schilling, 1776, across all the major platforms. | ||
| And you can check us out online at AmericanPrinciplesProject.org. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Boy, mark that down your calendar, the 28th of January. | ||
| This fight started years ago with Brandon Showalter and Terry Schilling. | ||
| I couldn't even handle it if I said it's not my life. | ||
| It's so depraved what they did, and they did it for money. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Donald Trump comes through with just another day at the office. | ||
| A blockbuster executive order. | ||
| Frank Gaffney and John Guendola continue the conversation. | ||
| So I want to make sure this is positioned correctly because John's given his entire professional life on this. | ||
| And Frank, I've spent the last 20 years. | ||
| You've spent much longer than that since you were in the Reagan administration. | ||
| And I was against the Iraq war. | ||
| I was against the Afghanistan war. | ||
| I was very adamant about that on the campaign in 16. We made a big deal about that. | ||
| And I was kind of put in charge by President Trump to initially, the first time with Eric Prince, try to get us out of Afghanistan before the deep state surrounding him with a bunch of false information came standing in a couple more years. | ||
| He wanted to get out immediately. | ||
| In the fight that's going on, and particularly the staffing of the Pentagon, staffing the State Department, the intelligence agencies, there are people, because we do want to pivot to Asia. | ||
| Frank and I are the head of the committee, or two of the founders of Brian Kennedy of the Committee on the President in Asia of China. | ||
| We see the CCP. As Captain Fennell said, keep the main thing the main thing, the existential at least national security threat to us, besides our debt maybe. | ||
| And you can see in this AI situation, the unrestricted warfare. | ||
| But the Middle East, there's one thing to pivot. | ||
| There's another thing to have restraint. | ||
| We all want restraint. | ||
| And I'm adamant about no more ground wars there. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| But you have to keep it in context. | ||
| And the context is some of the great civilizations of the Middle East, Turkey, the Turkic, I guess, civilization, Persia, Egypt. | ||
| It has a strand, part of it, not all of it, part of the strand of radical Islam that deals around Sharia supremacism. | ||
| And this is just a fact. | ||
| And you see what's happening in Europe. | ||
| You see what's happening in the United Kingdom. | ||
| You see what happened in New Orleans a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| If we don't combat it there and don't figure out how to restrain it and constrain it and contain it there. | ||
| It will be all over the United States of America. | ||
| So, Frank, with that, you put up a piece, and there's a big firefight going on right below the surface among people who are goodwill and respect each other but have big differences of opinion on this, and some of it's gotten a little nasty, right? | ||
| And there's been charges of anti-Semitism or, you know, you're bowing to Israel. | ||
| There's been some nasty things said among people that are normally collegial. | ||
| So tell us what's going on. | ||
| What is this about? | ||
| Is this some staffing at the Pentagon, some people with their history with the Kochs, and the Kochs have been kind of isolationist libertarians. | ||
| There's real contention here, but as I keep saying, I think people are missing the part about Turkey, and particularly Qatar. | ||
| Qatar is the financier of this, the financier of a lot of what Persia's been doing. | ||
| They're the financiers of the Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| They're financiers of what Turkey's doing. | ||
| And they have their agent, the Muslim Brotherhood, not just all over the Middle East, but also in the United States of America. | ||
| So can you frame it? | ||
| And then I want to get John on, who's really dedicated his life to rooting this out here in the United States, sir. | ||
| Steve, thank you. | ||
| Look, there's a lot to cover here. | ||
| Issue on staffing. | ||
| The question is, Donald Trump, I believe, was elected on a platform of getting away from the policies that have failed us dismally, the Biden administration. | ||
| I think he is for peace through strength. | ||
| I think he is for an America that is respected and powerful in the world. | ||
| And I think there are people, and I'm not casting aspersions on their loyalty or anything else, I'm just simply saying they are in a very different mold. | ||
| The Koch Foundation types who have the idea of, well, they call it restraint, I think is more accurately described as retreat. | ||
| And to the larger point that we have to focus on, and thank you for doing it, Steve, we're dealing with a phenomenon that is global in character. | ||
| There's no place to retreat from it. | ||
| The Sharia supremacists, and we use that term very advisedly, Steve, because we want to make it clear that lots of Muslims don't subscribe to this, well, I call it the totalitarian operating code. | ||
| The trouble is that the authorities of Islam say that's the true faith. | ||
| They say people who don't subscribe to it are apostates. | ||
| They can be killed. | ||
| They say that the agenda of Sharia, which is to use jihad to achieve global dominance, must be pursued. | ||
| And if you're not with that program... | ||
| You're A, not a Muslim, and B, you're likely to find yourself at the wrong end of the sword, especially if you're not a Muslim. | ||
| But the point is, what they're doing to Israel today is not just Israel's war. | ||
| It is a war between these Sharia supremacists and Western civilization, Judeo-Christian civilization. | ||
| Make no mistake about it, we are the ultimate... | ||
| Obstacle to the realization of those global ambitions. | ||
| So they have to destroy us too. | ||
| And as my friend John Guadola will talk about, Steve, they have built, they have put into place, they are operating today across America. | ||
| The kind of infrastructure of mosques and Islamic centers and madrasas. | ||
| When I'm talking about them, I'm talking about Sharia supremacists. | ||
| They're the Muslim Brotherhood, they're the Turks, they're the Qataris, they're the Iranians. | ||
| They have lots of differences amongst them, ethnic and various types of Islam. | ||
| But the bottom line is all the same. | ||
| Sharia. | ||
| They must rule the world and we stand in the way. | ||
| Therefore, that infrastructure. | ||
| Is prepared to be used by the tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of jihadists that Joe Biden let into this country. | ||
| We know he brought in 70,000 to 100,000 just from the Taliban, Afghanistan, alone, legally. | ||
| So this is the point that I want John to explore with you, because if we don't understand that presence, that reality, we're doing it. | ||
| John Guandola, you're one of the world's experts on this, and you've had tremendous praise, but you've also been criticized severely. | ||
| Is the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization, yes or no? | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| All you've got to do is read their bylaws. | ||
| Hang on, hang on. | ||
| Is the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States of America in any significant way? | ||
| Yes. | ||
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They control almost all of the proper positions. | |
| In the Muslim Brotherhood that's in the United States, is it a terrorist organization, as currently constituted? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Is Qatar one of the principal... | ||
| Financiers of the Muslim Brotherhood? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| How do you know that? | ||
| We have a significant amount of information, and you can just look at what Qatar does. | ||
| The amount of information we have about Qatar, not just intel and information we have from sources here in the U.S. and where the money comes from. | ||
| We can look at... | ||
| Qatar, along with these other nations we talked about earlier today, that are funding, providing resources, and they're doing, if you look at the template of how the Islamic movement, specifically the Muslim Brotherhood movement, operates in Europe and elsewhere, but specifically in North America and the United States, Qatar is right there. | ||
| They're providing financial resources. | ||
| They're doing all the subversion in the religious, political, media, education community, from colleges down to high schools. | ||
| They're doing the propaganda within the template that the Islamic movement is using. | ||
| And I want to, and if I could just say... | ||
| In this radical... | ||
| Yeah, go ahead. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, go ahead. | ||
| You mentioned China. | ||
| You mentioned these other countries. | ||
| I want to make sure your audience understands it. | ||
| We are, and Frank... | ||
| Just highlighted it. | ||
| We're in a war, and the war is a partnership between the communist movement and the Islamic movement. | ||
| You've got communist China a few years ago entered into a strategic partnership with the Islamic Republic of Iran, which is one of the largest state sponsors. | ||
| Okay, hang on, stop. | ||
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Full stop, full stop, full stop, full stop, full stop. | |
| I'm that instant in Persia. | ||
| I'm not interested in that tonight. | ||
| I understand we'll get into more of that later. | ||
| There's a method to my madness here. | ||
| I want to be very precise, John. | ||
| Just work with me on this, okay? | ||
| Don't wander. | ||
| Just work. | ||
| Is Qatar, these court cases you mentioned today, does the hand of Qatar come up in these court cases as financing radical Islamic... | ||
| Institutions and movements in the United States? | ||
| Well, there's been significant testimony, open and closed-door testimony about Qatar's financing of global terrorism, yes. | ||
| And there's also a fair amount of leaked documents as well. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Does the United States' most significant base among the Persian Gulf in Qatar? | ||
| Sir? | ||
| Yeah, it's CENTCOM headquarters in Qatar. | ||
| So CENTCOM headquarters, okay, you've got to help me walk through this. | ||
| You're saying that Qatar, and I understand what the Persians do, you're saying Qatar is one of the principal, if not the principal underwriter of the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization and has an apparatus in the United States, which is part of a terrorist apparatus, apparatus and that they're financed by Qatar. | ||
| Please explain to our audience how the most significant base that we have in the Middle East, not including the Tampa headquarters, but the four deployed headquarters for the combatant commander, which would be CENTCOM, happens to be in a country that finances a terrorist organization. happens to be in a country that finances a terrorist Because they would, by definition, correct me if I'm wrong, be a terrorist financing entity, correct? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And I would answer your question by saying, from 9-11 forward, and you can go back before 9-11, the U.S. government and the national security apparatus, including the DOD, has failed to do its basic mission. | ||
| which is to assess a threat based on who they say they are and why they say they're fighting. | ||
| And the advisors, the Islamic advisors the U.S. has used from President Clinton to today, from President Clinton having Abdurrahman al-Ammudi, the largest financier for al-Qaeda in North America, to Mr. Biden having Meher Bittar, a Hamas operative as the director of to Mr. Biden having Meher Bittar, a Hamas operative as the director of intelligence for the National Security Council and It has been a complete goat rope. | ||
| And it has been not only I wouldn't just call it unprofessional. | ||
| I'd call it malfeasance. | ||
| I'd call it criminal negligence. | ||
| And that's from all the administrations from Bush to Biden. | ||
| We all we could go through so many examples of where the U.S. government worked with known terrorist leaders from Hezbollah, al-Qaeda, ISIS. | ||
| Because I think al-Qaeda, you know, al-Ammudi being in the Clinton administration for eight years would give you an idea of how well the FBI and Secret Service are working. | ||
| But you can bring it all right up to today. | ||
| And the key positions, not only in the civilian government, in the defense industry, you look at who's in the HR, who's doing the Policy writing. | ||
| And here's the point that I was trying to make earlier, Steve. | ||
| This is a war. | ||
| And you do not win wars by fixing policies. | ||
| You do it by putting your finger on the enemy and vanquishing the enemy. | ||
| And that enemy has a massive network here in the United States that is identifiable and has been identified. | ||
| Hang one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| John Guandola, one of the experts. | ||
| In all things radical Islam and, of course, our own Frank Gaffney, Michael Walsher, joins us also after a short commercial break. | ||
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| Okay, Gwondola, how does it work that, so we have CENTCOM's four headquarters and the entire headquarters for everything we're doing in Central Command, the combatant commanders in Qatar. | ||
| Qatar then makes, I don't know, billions and billions of dollars, hundreds of billions, tens of billions every year on oil and gas. | ||
| They have huge deals with, I think, Exxon and major seven sister oil companies. | ||
| They put massive amounts of money into private equity funds, hedge funds here in the United States, real estate funds. | ||
| They own tons of real estate, particularly in a random city, I'm going to say New York City. | ||
| They're in business with tons of real estate developers because they will put up money at very attractive terms. | ||
| Do we not take tariff financing serious, or do people say, hey, John's a good guy, but his hair's on fire? | ||
| And they're really not that bad. | ||
| And, you know, every country has to deal with this to make sure they're not overthrown by these nutcases that'll drive up with a bomb in a truck. | ||
| And that's how they keep them. | ||
| They throw them a few dollars and have a police force that kind of keeps them in control. | ||
| And this is why you don't have chaos in the Middle East. | ||
| But they're businessmen, and we do business with them, and you've got to take their money, sir. | ||
| So I think there are a couple points to be made. | ||
| One, Qatar is a party to the OIC, the Organization of Islamic Conference Cooperation. | ||
| Now they changed the name. | ||
| And in 1990, they approved the OIC, by the way, the largest voting bloc in the UN. And in 1993, they served the Cairo Declaration on Human Rights and Islam to the United Nations, which states we, the entire Muslim world at the head of state and king level, including Qatar, we only view human rights through the lens of Sharia. | ||
| The things that Sharia states are true, like non-Muslims must convert or be killed unless you're Jewish, Christians or Ashton, then you convert, you submit, pay the non-Muslim poll tax or be killed. | ||
| Homosexuals are killed. | ||
| People who commit adultery are killed. | ||
| Those who leave Islam are killed. | ||
| Lying is obligatory. | ||
| Muslims lying to non-Muslims obligatory. | ||
| Torture is lawful. | ||
| Rape is lawful of the non-Muslim. | ||
| All these things. | ||
| That's Qatar. | ||
| Qatar is not some moderate country with a handful of nutbags or whatever. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Let's assume for purposes of discussion, I agree with you, and you lay out the facts. | ||
| How is it then that CENTCOM's forward command of the entire region, the combatant commander, and... | ||
| Every businessman, finance, Wall Street, how are they then in business with these guys? | ||
| Well, that's a great question. | ||
| Let me answer that with a very short vignette, and that is, when I got recruited out of the FBI into the DOD by Rach Higgins, who became, as you know, the Director of Strategic Planning for the National Security Council under Mr. Trump the first time, I briefed. | ||
| Many members of Congress, three- and four-star generals, senior government officials, former national security advisors, attorney generals, directors of FBI, CIA, DIA, and not one of them ever, including chairman of Homeland Security Committee, chairman of Intelligence Committee, had a clue about... | ||
| The global Islamic movement, the movement here in the United States, their doctrine, their strategy, and how they actually operate against the United States and Western interests. | ||
| It was astounding to me, coming out of the FBI, believing still that our leaders, and these are a lot of the people I briefed, are smart, patriotic men and women. | ||
| The point to be made here is, the primary It's not in the kinetic. | ||
| It's not blowing things up. | ||
| It's not tanks, bombs, ships, guns. | ||
| It is in the information battle space. | ||
| It is in espionage, counterintelligence, subverting the key institutions of the West, especially the United States, religious, media, political, education, as well as the security services. | ||
| It is... | ||
| Propaganda. | ||
| It is economic warfare. | ||
| It's all of it. | ||
| So if I can demonstrate that 100% of published Islamic law, including the most widely used textbooks in U.S. Islamic schools for 12-year-olds, teaches that the purpose of Islam is to wage war against the non-Muslim community to establish an Islamic state under Sharia. | ||
| And our leaders will tell you the exact opposite. | ||
| Of what 10, 11, and 12-year-old Muslim children are being taught in U.S. Islamic schools, that's complete dominance in the information battle space. | ||
| And it means we will lose the war because our leaders, both sides of the political aisle, have demonstrated they are catastrophically incompetent, which makes them criminally negligent because Americans are dead. | ||
| Overseas and here in the United States, in places like Louisiana and elsewhere, because our leaders don't know this. | ||
| I think it's will for ignorance. | ||
| And Frank, I'm going to turn to you the last question to John, and then I go to you, and I've got to wrap up because of time. | ||
| If Israel did not exist, is the Muslim Brotherhood and its financier cutter in that element in Turkey? | ||
| That looks at the reestablishment of a caliphate with Turkey at the head of it, a reconstitution of the Ottoman Empire, and their control with Qatar of the two holy sites, is if Israel did not exist, wasn't around, | ||
| Would it make any difference to their war against the West, given the United States and what we stand for as a constitutional republic based upon principles of the Judeo-Christian West? | ||
| But if Israel did not exist in the Middle East, if it had been no Zionist movement, they'd gone back, would it make any difference to the Muslim Brotherhood, sir? | ||
| It would only in that their strategic and tactical focus could be more on the West and Europe and the United States. | ||
| Their stated objective in their bylaws. | ||
| It is simply to establish an Islamic state under Sharia and to destroy all un-Islamic governments. | ||
| And by the way, that includes governments in the Muslim world that should be run by Sharia. | ||
| And I will point out, as evidence of the catastrophic failure of our government to deal with these matters, you have the four leaders on the planet. | ||
| That we're going after Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood more than anyone else. | ||
| Mubarak, Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, and Bashir al-Assad. | ||
| Well, we killed two. | ||
| We pushed one out of power, Hosni Mubarak, and we just removed Bashir al-Assad. | ||
| Who took charge? | ||
| The adversaries of liberty took charge at the hands of the U.S. We can point the fingers elsewhere, but America, at a minimum, tipped its hat, and in the case of three of them, actively participated in that. | ||
| That is how catastrophically stupid, ignorant, dangerous, willfully, we call it whatever you want, criminally negligent our leaders have been for the last 25 years. | ||
| Frank, your recommendation to President Trump, we've got to bounce here, but it's very highly, you know, people think very highly, and you've thought this through a lot. | ||
| What is your, because I make the case that if Israel didn't exist in regards to the Muslim Brotherhood and their, not Islam, but this form of radical Islam that supports Sharia supremacy in a Sharia supremacist state, that the United States is the target and has been the target. | ||
| What would be your recommendation to President Trump? | ||
| My recommendation, building on what John has said, with which I agree completely, is we have to treat this as an enemy inside the United States, bent on our destruction. | ||
| And that means, as I believe Donald Trump himself said on August 15, 2016, in a remarkable speech we talked about earlier in the day, You need to strip out and root out, for words to those effects, the support networks for what he called radical Islamic terrorism. | ||
| A more accurate term, I think, is Sharia supremacism. | ||
| Yes, it's radical. | ||
| Yes, it involves terror. | ||
| But it is about Sharia and imposing it on all of us. | ||
| And just a closing thought, Steve, just introduced into evidence. | ||
| Interrogating the guy that was Bill Clinton's advisor on all of this, Abdurrahman Alamoudi, for his al-Qaeda ties, as his squad at the FBI was raiding a safe house in Annandale, Virginia, and came across this document. | ||
| It's called the Explanatory Memorandum on the Strategic Goal of the Group in North America. | ||
| And in it, it says literally. | ||
| These words. | ||
| The work of the Brotherhood in America is a kind of grand jihad in destroying Western civilization from within so that it is eliminated and Allah's religion is made victorious over all other religions. | ||
| They could not be more clear about their purpose. | ||
| This is their playbook. | ||
| This is what they're acting on. | ||
| And if we don't take... | ||
| To heart, and thank you for giving us the chance to lay this out as well as John has done, all of the evidence that we have not understood the problem, we have not correctly worked the problem, and we are going to be destroyed by the problem unless we take corrective action, starting with designating this terrorist group, the Muslim Brotherhood, as just that, rolling it up. | ||
| Shutting down these mosque complexes and these Islamic centers and all the rest of them, which, going back to Muhammad's time, Steve, as you know, are, yeah, houses of worship part-time, but they're everything from community centers to organizing facilities to arsenals used to equip and train jihadists. | ||
| And that's a problem that is central to what we're facing now with this infrastructure, especially with these... | ||
| Thousands and thousands of jihadists that have been admitted into our country to marry up with what's in those mosques. | ||
| And the pressure is on those Muslims that just want to get on with their life and be good citizens. | ||
| John, I'm going to have you and Frank back on, hopefully this week, to talk about the Persian. | ||
| We're going to pivot to the Persian element of this. | ||
| Because this is a two-banger, right? | ||
| You've got Turkey on one side, you've got Persia on the other, and it's rolling, and it's rolling hard, and people better wake up about this. | ||
| And since I served off the coast of Persia, I'm the last person in the world that wants to go to war with Persia. | ||
| But we need a deep think about exactly what our strategy is, regardless if Israel existed or it did not. | ||
| This is about the United States of America. | ||
| Frank Gaffney, social media, where do they go, sir? | ||
| The Institute for the American Future is my new home. | ||
| It's usfuture.org. | ||
| You can find out all about our various coalitions, including ones on China and sovereignty and, of course, the Victory Coalition, which has brought us much of what we've just talked about. | ||
| And Steve, thank you for taking the time to bring us all up to speed on this. | ||
| We've got to get this right. | ||
| You're exactly right. | ||
| Yeah, we have to get this right. | ||
| John? | ||
| You're a patriot and a hero. | ||
| Where do people go to find you, sir? | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| JohnGuandolo.com. | ||
| JohnGuandolo.com is the website. | ||
| And JGuandolo54271 is the Twitter handle. | ||
| I think it's like my fifth Twitter account so far. | ||
| It's holding steady now that the good guys are back in charge, I guess. | ||
| Hopefully that'll stay the case. | ||
| I've had Guandola and Gaffney on since I started doing radio back in, what, 2010, 2011. Guys, thank you so much. | ||
| We've won a lot of victories, and we've lost a couple of three, too. | ||
| Also, Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| More about that. | ||
| Hopefully get the guys back this week. | ||
| Birchgold.com, end of the dollar empire, modern monetary theory. | ||
| People are raving about this. | ||
| Philip Packer and the team had a little thing to do with it, too. | ||
| Get it. | ||
| We wrote it because now we need to understand the theory that got us into this jam, what Wall Street believed, or what they sold as their belief to the political class. | ||
| An absolute disaster. | ||
| Also find investing in gold in the age of Trump. | ||
| Bannon, take your phone out. | ||
| B-A-N-N-O-N-9-8-9-8-9-8. | ||
| Check it out today. | ||
| I was going to get my copy. | ||
| I got my copy of Last Stand right in back of me. | ||
| It's got papers all in it and marks all in it, but the staff is out getting ready for the Matt Boyle. | ||
| We're having a Matt Boyle war room event tonight. | ||
| Matt asked the first question. | ||
| I asked the second question back of Mike Allen today with Caroline Levitt, the first press briefing. | ||
| A Rage to Conquer. | ||
| I've waited for this one for a long time. | ||
| Mike Walsh. | ||
| Michael Walsh. | ||
| Another editor at Breitbart, back in the old days. | ||
| Twelve Battles That Changed the Course of Western History. | ||
| Walsh, it's amazing. | ||
| You cannot put this book down. | ||
| You selected some of the best battles. | ||
| I have a question. | ||
| You have a theory of the case, Walsh, because you're a public intellectual. | ||
| And I want to quote, and I want you to back it up. | ||
| That battle is the principal agent of societal change. | ||
| That battle is the principal agent of societal change. | ||
| I thought it was just killing a lot of warriors, killing a lot of civilians. | ||
| How did it get to be the principal, not a agent, the principal agent of societal change, Michael Walsh? | ||
| Well, thanks for having me on, Steve. | ||
| You go back to Immanuel Kant in the late 18th century, who posits that peace is the aberration and war is the natural state of mankind. | ||
| In an essay he wrote called Perpetual Peace. | ||
| And then we see as warfare develops throughout the 19th and 20th and into the 21st centuries that societies are irrevocably changed when war is fought to a dispositive conclusion. | ||
| So I was listening with interest to your guests. | ||
| We're in the middle of the forever war. | ||
| With radical Islam, as all you and Frank and John pointed out. | ||
| But these fights go back a thousand years, literally. | ||
| But Japan was a different place after 1945. Germany is a different place. | ||
| It bears no resemblance to Prussia and Bismarck in Germany any longer. | ||
| The Soviet Union collapsed, and because it lost the Cold War... | ||
| A whole new society has evolved. | ||
| Plus, war accelerates technology. | ||
| It encourages strategic thinking. | ||
| It calls into being a class of masculine, not feminine, masculine warriors that really rearrange the pieces of the chessboard. | ||
| It's not a permanent solution, but it's a big solution to intractable problems. | ||
| Talk to me about the battle you selected. | ||
| You select these battles very clearly, and people got to get this. | ||
| A Rage to Conquer, 12 battles that changed the course of Western history. | ||
| Michael Walsh did Last Stands, The Audience Love, made it turn into a bestseller. | ||
| Why did you pick this battle with Alexander? | ||
| Why did you pick it about between him and King Darius? | ||
| Yeah, well, I thought for each one of the... | ||
| Actually, one commander has two battles, and that's Beaumont during the First Crusade. | ||
| But I wanted to do several things. | ||
| One is praise toxic masculinity because of its dispositive nature. | ||
| Wars don't end with negotiation. | ||
| They only end with finality. | ||
| And as you know, I'm a big fan of General Grant, and it's why the Civil War ended the way it did. | ||
| But I wanted each commander's masterpiece. | ||
| So we have Alexander at Gaugamela, where he defeats Darius for the third time and ends the Persian Empire. | ||
| I chose Caesar at Alicia, where he captures Vercingetorix, the Gaulish commander, and turns Gaul into a Roman province, which turns into France. | ||
| Constantine the Great defeats his rival. | ||
| But hang on. | ||
| There's a point I want to make that ties it to the last one. | ||
| After the Klausovich interview, you do Achilles at Ilium, really the Trojan War. | ||
| That is Greece and Turkey, right? | ||
| Because the Trojan War is Turk. | ||
| And Alexander versus the Persians, Greeks versus the Persians. | ||
| This is the discussion we're having today about radical Islam in Turkey and Persia and all of it. | ||
| It hasn't changed. | ||
| It's the West versus these folks, right? | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| But this is a war that's been going on for 3,000 years, sir? | ||
| Yes, it has. | ||
| And I make the point in Rage to Conquer that the Trojan War is the template for West versus East. | ||
| It is the Macedonian Greeks against what were Hittite peoples, we believe, in Troy at that time. | ||
| But almost every one of these fights involves the East versus the West, and that has never been fought to a dispositive conclusion. | ||
| Now, your two guests were just talking about the ultimate goal of Sharia-centric societies, and they have an objective. | ||
| Steve, you're a military guy. | ||
| I grew up in the Marine Corps. | ||
| Objectives are really important, and we haven't had an objective for victory since 1945, since Roosevelt declared war. | ||
| And said, we will fight this, and God will—to the end. | ||
| There was no question of negotiating with Japan or Germany. | ||
| So we have to learn from what did the earlier commanders do? | ||
| How did they see war objectively, tactically, and strategically? | ||
| And in each case, we're fighting a very, very similar enemy. | ||
| It interested me as I was writing about all these battles that when the West encounters the East, whether they were Arabs or Turks or whoever they were fighting during the First Crusade was obviously Turks and Arabs, their military tactics were so different from the West that it took a while to react their military tactics were so different from the West that it took And then we got used to it. | ||
| We kind of have to learn. | ||
| The book is A Rage to Conquer, 12 Battles That Changed the Course of Western History. | ||
| If you've got someone close to you that likes military history, this is the best. | ||
| Michael Walsh, social media. | ||
| We've got about 30 seconds. | ||
| Social media, where do they get the book, brother? | ||
| The book is available in every bookstore today, published today. | ||
| You get it on Amazon, of course. | ||
| You can get it directly from Macmillan, St. Martin's Press. | ||
| And I'm pleased to announce that we will be reviving and somewhat changing our website, the-pipeline.org, which has largely focused on energy issues, but will be expanding its purview. | ||
| Starting in a week or so, so people can find me there on pretty much a daily basis. | ||
| St. Martin's Press, very classy, very classy imprint. | ||
| Michael Walsh, former editor of, what is it, Big Media? | ||
| Big Journal. | ||
| Michael Walsh. | ||
| Big Journalism. | ||
| Michael, congratulations. | ||
| Lots of luck in the book. | ||
| We'll have you back on. | ||
| I know the audience will want to have you back on. | ||
| Love you, brother. | ||
| Keep pounding. | ||
| You will not put this book down. | ||
| See you tomorrow morning, 10 a.m. |
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