Jan. 28, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, I want to go to Ben in Rome first because I want to finish this. | ||
| The situation in Ukraine, before we talk about the White House, and then I've got Frank Gaffey, the guy's coming about the Middle East and Israel, all that. | ||
| We're going to also go to Nevada. | ||
| Talk about a historic event yesterday, flipping Nevada on registrations to Republicans. | ||
| We're getting it all done today. | ||
| Birch gold, make sure there's going to be times of turbulence. | ||
| You see this, what happened in the stock market yesterday, largest $600 billion, Nvidia's down. | ||
| Market cap loss. | ||
| Yes, they can always make it back, but who knows? | ||
| The market itself, the equity market in the United States combined combo platter $1.8 trillion in one day. | ||
| I think we're going to go through some turbulence, 10-year bond all over the place. | ||
| They're waiting for the cuts from Doge, waiting to see if we can balance this budget. | ||
| CNBC this morning had a guy on, one of the backbenchers, talking about dynamic. | ||
| We're going to get into this because I know you want the receipts. | ||
| Dynamic scoring versus the way CBO does it and the way OMB does it. | ||
| We're going to get into it probably this afternoon to make sure that you're fully up to speed on how you actually look at the math. | ||
| To make sure we're not fooling each other and we're not having happy talk. | ||
| But you're talking about hard cash. | ||
| How it really comes in and how it really gets spent. | ||
| That's when President Trump froze $3 trillion, I think, last night in the system. | ||
| USAID, all over. | ||
| He's stopping foreign aid. | ||
| He's stopping USAID. He's stopping all kind of payments everywhere. | ||
| He's stopping everything except Social Security and Medicare. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| He wants to see where it is in the system, where it's going to go. | ||
| And the Doge guys, I think, are all over this. | ||
| They're kind of like doing the line diagram. | ||
| Where does this stuff go? | ||
| But right now, where you should go, get your phone out and just text Bannon at 989898. They get you to Birch Gold. | ||
| You get all the free instruments. | ||
| You get the 401ks. | ||
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But... | |
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| Read it. | ||
| It's very well put together, very accessible. | ||
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| That's why they do the End of the Dollar Empire series with us. | ||
| Philip Patrick and the team, so check it out today. | ||
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| I started with Rickards back, I think, in 2012 with Currency War. | ||
| Brilliant guy, Jim Rickards, Rickards, warroom.com. | ||
| If you like what you hear here on Capital Markets Geopolitics, you'll love Rickards, one of the smartest guys I know. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, Ukraine. | ||
| So Rahim broke this story. | ||
| You've been all over and you've been adamant because you've followed this for years. | ||
| You've been right on everything we've said about Ukraine down to the fifth decimal place. | ||
| And now President Trump, who opposed this war, if he hadn't had the presidency stolen, it wouldn't happen. | ||
| There'd be 1.8 million people either not wounded or alive. | ||
| On the battlefields over there. | ||
| And you can tell what the apparatus is doing. | ||
| Kagan's told you they're trying to suck President Trump in to make it his conflict. | ||
| And he has to avoid that. | ||
| Because he's got this... | ||
| Every institution in this city is trying to force him to do that. | ||
| And you saw the Ukrainian papers. | ||
| You saw they've got the 100-day plan. | ||
| What is your response to that, Ben Harnwell, giving your seat in the eternal city and watching this like a hawk? | ||
| Good morning, Steve. | ||
| Well, it's not good news for the war room posse, and I'm going to go straight into the killer line here, because the proposal's here. | ||
| And it's basically the Kellogg plan, Lieutenant General Kellogg's plan, that's been leaked to the press over the last four weeks or so. | ||
| There are some interesting things, however, in this that I haven't read elsewhere, and I'll go into those in just a moment. | ||
| But the war room posses... | ||
| Going to want to know where the meat is, why I don't like this, why I would vote down, vote this. | ||
| If I had a vote on this, it would be a vote down straight away. | ||
| Because the key point here for Americans is that Ukraine would continue to receive military support from the US. And that, I think, is something that's going to be offensive to a lot of people who were listening to you talking just earlier on in the show. | ||
| The American economy is bleeding out. | ||
| There is no money for this, and yet the money – you're going to see more budget lines, more budget arguments over the coming months and years to get this military support to Ukraine. | ||
| Okay, but hang on. | ||
| Let's talk about the process that they're talking about. | ||
| They say immediate ceasefire by April 15th, then the beginnings of a negotiated deal by, I think, May. | ||
| They talk about a security guarantee, American money, but they don't mention any American troops. | ||
| So it's April 15th for a ceasefire. | ||
| I'm just trying to repeat what the press is telling them. | ||
| They've clearly seen the American plan or the discussions of Kellogg and other people. | ||
| So it's April for a ceasefire. | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| April 20th. | ||
| Formally, it's April the 20th for the declaration of the ceasefire. | ||
| And in the preceding weeks, there were supposed to be phone calls between the White House and President Putin and the White House and President Zelensky to get to that declaration of ceasefire. | ||
| And then before May the 9th, after the ceasefire, there will be an international peace conference, which is going to hammer out the terms of the treaty, the peace treaty. | ||
| And that text should be released around May the 9th. | ||
| Now, here are the interesting things, Steve. | ||
| You asked about the process, what's in here. | ||
| The Warren Posse will be interested in some of the things I think General Kellogg is pushing here. | ||
| For example, right, after May the 9th, Kiev would be asked not to extend martial law or to mobilise any further troops. | ||
| Now, if you're saying, hang on, hang on, why... | ||
| Would the Americans be pushing that? | ||
| What's the importance of martial law? | ||
| Well, the first thing you're going to think about is that under the present constitution, that goes back to the 90s, you can't have any elections in Ukraine under martial law. | ||
| We know this. | ||
| We've discussed this hundreds of times. | ||
| And if you're thinking, well, are the Americans here manoeuvring something to have elections in Ukraine? | ||
| If that was your suspicion... | ||
| You might be interested to read something else that is here in these proposals, that Kiev, under the terms of this agreement, would have to allow parties advocating for peace with Russia to run in those elections. | ||
| And of course, those parties have all been prohibited for the last three years. | ||
| So it seems to me very likely that one of the aspects of this, and by the way, President Zelensky, his office has said this is not a valid... | ||
| Peace proposal that they've received on the Americans. | ||
| It's been created probably by the Russians to destabilize the situation. | ||
| I can't particularly see Ukraine going for this because it gives Russia everything it wants. | ||
| Specifically, in terms of the Donbass and some people are referring to buffer zones, it's not buffer zones. | ||
| It's quite clear that Ukraine would officially recognize the sovereignty of Russia in those zones. | ||
| Which is pretty much the gold mission that comes from the Russian point of view. | ||
| Hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| Whoa, whoa, slow down. | ||
| Because remember, this is a paper that goes Ukrainian. | ||
| Essentially what this thing says is they're going to partition Ukraine. | ||
| I hate to use such a harsh term, but Ukraine would be, according to this, would end up being partitioned. | ||
| Not just the Donbass, but potentially other areas where Russian army... | ||
| And this is Ukrainians moving back from Kursk, right? | ||
| They're in Kursk there. | ||
| But other parts of Ukrainian territory, it looks like it would be partitioned under Russian control. | ||
| Am I reading that correctly, sir? | ||
| Look, I think it goes further than that, because when you hear about partition, perhaps you think of Berlin, perhaps you think... | ||
| Of the division between the demilitarized zone between North Korea, South Korea. | ||
| This is, from my understanding of this supposedly leaked text, what it's actually doing is it's handing those areas that Russia controls officially over to Russia. | ||
| They would become part of the Russian Federation. | ||
| And I think that goes further than what is ordinarily understood by partitioning. | ||
| Some of the alternative plans, right? | ||
| Not the Kellogg plan. | ||
| You had the Vance plan and you had the Rick Grinnell plan. | ||
| Those would be more like what J.D. Vance had asked for, suggested, was a demilitarized zone. | ||
| And what Grinnell had suggested was autonomous zones. | ||
| Now that could, if you found a mechanism to recognize that in international law, that would be more partition territory. | ||
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This is just giving it to Russia. | |
| This proposal... | ||
| But hang on. | ||
| In this proposal, what's out, it's like, what was the... | ||
| Boris Johnson, as we said in War Room on the evening before the war started, what's the purpose? | ||
| It's not just Don Bosque and Crimea's gone, which Zelensky swore up and down, they never really happened, but correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm just reading it like any other Schmendrick, but... | ||
| It looks like other territories, historically where the Russian army goes, they kind of stay for a while. | ||
| Like in Eastern Europe, I don't know, for 50 years. | ||
| Until the fall of the Berlin Wall. | ||
| And I don't care how many Czech revolts and how many Hungarian revolts you had. | ||
| They were there until the Berlin Wall, until Ronald Reagan took it down. | ||
| The Russian army has been in this place, and it looks like, according to this, that they may not keep all of it. | ||
| They're going to keep a lot more than the Donbass and the Crimea. | ||
| Do you agree with that, Ben Harnwell, as you read this? | ||
| Yeah, the Russians would have everything. | ||
| I repeat the point that according to my reading of this, and it's in quotation marks, that Ukraine would officially recognize the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over those occupied territories. | ||
| So that would be shifting the border effectively eastwards. | ||
| So McConnell and all the – I just want to make sure – I'm going to rub – no, I'm going to put salt in another wound for the – they sat there and took a quarter of a trillion dollars of your money, $250 billion that we've had no accounting for. | ||
| And trust me, those oligarchs and that crook Zelensky were stealing with both hands. | ||
| You got a million – this is according to President Trump. | ||
| You got a million dead or wounded Ukrainians. | ||
| You got 700,000, 750,000 dead or wounded Russians. | ||
| So we're at a million seven. | ||
| The place looks like Dresden. | ||
| And now you're in a situation that you get a worse deal, that we told you you would. | ||
| You get a worse deal with the Russians. | ||
| What was it worth? | ||
| Do you understand why the parents of the 18 to 26-year-olds have said, over my dead body, you're taking my son to go to that front? | ||
| Because this is where we are. | ||
| This catastrophe. | ||
| It's exactly like Mersheimer said it, just like it's repeated by Raheem Kassam and Ben Harnwell and Stephen K. Bannon on this show and Jack Posobiec for three years. | ||
| This is an outrage. | ||
| By the way, it's probably the best deal they can get. | ||
| As we said, this was all for nothing. | ||
| Except for the arm manufacturers and Victoria Newland Kagan. | ||
| And to cover up whatever in the hell's been... | ||
| I said this, and folks, it's going to happen. | ||
| When you lance the boil, That is Ukraine. | ||
| There's going to be some pus coming out of there. | ||
| Hey, Fauci, all these pardons don't go back to 2014. You see a connected dot? | ||
| It's when Rahim Kassam was over there for Breitbart, London, for the color revolution. | ||
| It all goes back to, that's a railhead of a lot of filth. | ||
| And we're going to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| The people that are guilty of this crime, and they're war criminals. | ||
| Are the people in Brussels, in NATO, in the European Union, in Washington, D.C., in the Atlantic Magazine, MSNBC? Where's all your cheerleading now? | ||
| How come you're not talking about this article? | ||
| You people are revolting. | ||
| You did exactly what Mersheimer said. | ||
| You're going to lead the Ukrainian people down the primrose path until it gets too tough for you. | ||
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And then you're going to abandon them. | |
| Because you've already fought until the last Ukrainian's dead. | ||
| Ben, I've got to bounce. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| We'll get you back on. | ||
| Not tonight, tomorrow. | ||
| We'll do more work on this. | ||
| This is revolting. | ||
| This is a disgrace. | ||
| And anybody associated with it ought to be turfed out. | ||
| What's your social media been? | ||
| On getter, Steve. | ||
| Simply my surname, Hanra. | ||
| Two very, very essential points. | ||
| Also in this treaty will be the consideration of the reconstruction of Ukraine, what we've called on this show their mother of all grits, which will be largely handed over to the EU. I have to close with this point. | ||
| Donald Trump, however, if they call his bluff, he's on this conveyor belt. | ||
| Now, he's not going to get off this. | ||
| If he follows this down, if Russia or China or even Zelensky call his bluff, he's going all the way in on this. | ||
| Yeah, no, he won't. | ||
| He's going to stand tall on this. | ||
| He has nothing to do with this. | ||
| His hands are clean. | ||
| Clean. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| Okay, momentarily, let me have Frank Gaffney and John Guandola join us, but I want to go first to the White House and our own Natalie Winters. | ||
| Natalie's taking on a new assignment for the War Room. | ||
| That's simply going to be co-hosting our executive editor and chief researcher. | ||
| She's also going to take on the responsibilities of our White House correspondent. | ||
| Natalie, the mainstream media, I'm sure, is welcoming you with open arms today. | ||
| I know Brian Glenn's over there for Real America's Voice. | ||
| Are you guys getting nothing but stink eye today? | ||
| Yeah, I don't exactly think all the people that you were just outlining who need to have, what, criminal charges and referrals, the people that I'm about 50 feet away from are necessarily too happy that the war room now has me being obviously a voice, not just in terms of asking questions, but I think sort of observing the mainstream press corps and what they're doing here in the room, where it's happening, of course, with the first press briefing with none other than Caroline Lovett happening today at 1 p.m. | ||
| Epic background that I've ever had, and I have to say, Steve, just on a personal note of reflection, you were just talking about, you know, Professor Meersheimer, who was someone that I had while I was a student at the University of Chicago, and I look how far I've come, you've come, this show has come, but most importantly, this audience has come. | ||
| I'm so honored and privileged to be standing here as War Room's new White House correspondent, but this is an ability and privilege that I have only because of this audience, and I don't just mean because the president loves them and obviously the press office. | ||
| This was instrumental in getting me in here. | ||
| But they know that this audience is the audience that moves the needle. | ||
| And that's why they want War Room, myself, here, in the room, where it's happening. | ||
| More importantly, I think, to cover what the mainstream press is doing, the resistance, opposition, however they want to term it. | ||
| But I think this is a really, really consequential and important day for War Room. | ||
| When you just look behind me, you can see how far we've come. | ||
| So thank you from the bottom of my heart. | ||
| This is really cool, still surreal, and I'm kind of taking it all in. | ||
| You started with us really with National Pulse. | ||
| Raheem was the co... | ||
| Remember, we start with Jason Miller and Raheem. | ||
| Jason Miller, the comms director and strategist for the campaign. | ||
| Jason's going to stay on the outside and not go in. | ||
| But some of his colleagues, Taylor Botovich, you got Stephen Chung. | ||
| Stephen used to be with us for years. | ||
| And you've got, of course, Caroline Leavitt, who we broke her in when she was running in that heated... | ||
| Primary, which is so fantastic up in New Hampshire. | ||
| But you started with Raheem when he was co-anchor here. | ||
| I think you were an intern. | ||
| Weren't you like 17 years old as an intern? | ||
| I think you were still in college. | ||
| Well, we don't want to violate any child labor laws. | ||
| I was 18, for sure. | ||
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Was Harvard-Westlake do what? | |
| Do what? | ||
| I said we don't want to violate any child labor laws, so I was definitely over 18, but I think just barely. | ||
| You were just an intern. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| It's quite moving. | ||
| I know rarely am I at a loss for words, but to be standing here, I mean, Steve, think about it. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| I mean, two years ago, three years ago, we were being smeared as the number one spreaders of misinformation. | ||
| You were in prison not too long ago. | ||
| Our entire audience was censored and deplatformed. | ||
| And look how far we've come. | ||
| It's a testament to this audience, but also, Steve, more importantly, I think so much of what we've been focusing on lately, the resistance, the concept of civil society, how they're going to push back because they do have no levers of power and the media is going to be the hotbed of resistance. | ||
| So I pledge to this audience, of course, I'll be covering what President Trump is doing, but more importantly, what the mainstream media is doing in terms of lying and deceit and the narratives that they're going to be crafting to try to neuter and nullify President Trump's America First agenda. | ||
| You know, this goes back as a hat tip to Susie Wiles and Lasavita, who on the campaign with with Jason understood that power had shifted. | ||
| From mainstream media to now the podcast, the streaming services, and they made a big effort to make sure everybody was involved. | ||
| That was in the campaign, and it paid off in space. | ||
| Then, thinking through how you actually cover this White House with the flood, the zone, there's so much going on. | ||
| We started the show with a seven-minute cold open on just all these amazing things President Trump's doing. | ||
| And you can tell right now, Natalie, There are half a dozen to ten things every day that almost get no coverage. | ||
| That's what we're here to do is to make sure with Real America's Voice you're going to understand it all and get it all. | ||
| But I think what Taylor and Stephen Chung and Carolyn Levitt have done is brilliant because they've really allowed the podcasts and the streaming services that really will put the resources like we did on Friday. | ||
| And I had even, you know, Brian Glenn did such a magnificent job, Real America's Voice, Amanda Head on the West Coast, but like even MTG came to me and she says, hey, I was riveted to the coverage and I know the folks in the White House. | ||
| That's the, you know, Rob Sieg and Parker, Brian Glenn, Amanda Head, John Solomon, War Room, Posobiec, Charlie Kirk. | ||
| We're going to put an immense amount of effort to make sure the full story is told because it's such a major, major inflection in American history, and we're putting our best talent there. | ||
| Amanda Head, Natalie Winters, Brian Glenn. | ||
| We're going to be announcing other people up on Capitol Hill. | ||
| We're putting full resources because the story's kind of shifted, right? | ||
| We were in the outs for years and years and years and fought back, and we put you, whether it's in the border, etc., we're still going to be in those places. | ||
| But the center of gravity of the story has shifted to Washington, D.C., and Natalie has been such a superstar. | ||
| He's going to be there telling the story and getting to the facts as long as you can tell them. | ||
| One thing, just about the action. | ||
| You know, last night he froze the $3 trillion. | ||
| He's doing all the stuff with the military. | ||
| The Marines go to the border. | ||
| Even Abbott sends $400. | ||
| He's got Christie Noem today is kicking down doors in New York City and arresting people. | ||
| Just the level of activity emanating from the White House. | ||
| Must make it a place that you can just feel the energy when you're there. | ||
| I know you've got dark energy, negative energy by the media who are being crushed. | ||
| And Acosta just left. | ||
| CNN got fired, essentially. | ||
| He just had some nasty stuff to say by President Trump, as you can imagine. | ||
| But the energy coming out of there, Natalie, put us in a rumor, in this case, the lawn. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, as I was walking in, there's massive protests going on outside. | ||
| I'm not exactly sure what they're over. | ||
| I think it has something to do with either the Palestine stuff or the mass deportations. | ||
| But, I mean, I think, Steve, to the point that you were making, you know, there is definitely an undertone, an undercurrent. | ||
| I feel that Brian Glenn feels that of the sort of legacy media, the mainstream press not wanting us here, sort of scoffing at us, which... | ||
| I'll take it. | ||
| I don't really care. | ||
| I've never cared what they thought. | ||
| But to that point, right, when you see MSNBC melting down about the inspector generals being fired or certain DOJ apparatchiks being removed, I would argue every person who's smiling in that video of Merrick Garland leaving should have grounds for termination. | ||
| But these people have failed. | ||
| I'm not just talking for decades, but certainly for the last four years. | ||
| So if anyone from the mainstream press has an issue with me being here or with Warren being here, I would simply say, you guys covered up for four years. | ||
| So if you really want to make the case that what you guys were doing was such a wonderful job, I'd just point you to that Wall Street Journal report, and I'd say I think that is all the evidence you need as to why we need a new era, a new, shall we say, golden age of media and reporting here coming from the White House. | ||
| But to your point about flooding the zone, Jen Psaki literally played the clip of you from that PBS Frontline interview in 2020 last night saying that that's still their tactic. | ||
| That's still exactly what they're doing. | ||
| But make no mistake, I think the counterpoint to flooding the zone... | ||
| You see that reciprocity in terms of what the resistance is trying to do. | ||
| I know that story you love to talk about in the Wall Street Journal, how they prematurely leaked about those mass deportations and the raids. | ||
| I would wager I'd be very curious if I were wrong on this, but I'm very confident that the intel from that story came from the ACLU. They've been really, really heavily handed in their FOIA requests and trying to get to the bottom of detention centers and the sort of logistics of these raids and mass deportations. | ||
| They've been bragging about it. | ||
| They've launched a bunch of new programs. | ||
| They've, of course, been suing everyone and their mother, whether it's the birthright citizenship, the mass deportation stuff. | ||
| Even right now, as we're speaking, actively lobbying governors and state and local level officials to give state level pardons for criminal illegal aliens. | ||
| That is convicted criminal illegal aliens. | ||
| So they won't be subject to what is the current purview of a lot of these mass deportation raids. | ||
| So I think that while it's great to focus on what they're not covering from the Trump administration, make no mistake that the sort of resistance wing of the Democrat Party is an overdrive. | ||
| And to that point, even Norm Eisen, the State United Democracy defenders, I believe it was just into the first few minutes of President Trump's terms. | ||
| Term that three lawsuits were already filed against the constitutionality of Doge. | ||
| Norm Eisen actually applied to be a member of Doge. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| And under those grounds, they're saying that that was discrimination, that they did not accept Norm Eisen's application to be involved with Doge. | ||
| So they're trying to now sort of come and nuke and neuter Doge through that angle. | ||
| So they are firing on all cylinders when it comes to lawfare. | ||
| It didn't go anywhere. | ||
| They're just rebranding. | ||
| But like I said, I'm so honored and privileged, despite all the nasty stares that I'm getting as I'm calling out my new evil America last America hating colleagues, I guess, though I don't want to demean myself by calling them my colleagues, how they're going to cover it up and run cover for people who are trying to sabotage President Trump. | ||
| Remember, ma'am, none of that crowd. | ||
| Got through the University of Chicago with the grade you got in three years while you held down a full-time job here. | ||
| Just remember that. | ||
| Just be like Scott Besson with those Democrats. | ||
| As soon as they... | ||
| Just be very polite. | ||
| Misinformation, so... | ||
| Misinformation. | ||
| Natalie, great job. | ||
| Or they've ever filled in for someone who was in prison, so I'll take that. | ||
| Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms. | ||
| And thank you so much for the audience. | ||
| I know I wouldn't be standing here if it weren't for you guys and the power of the War Room Posse. | ||
| So I'm deeply humble and grateful, and I wish all of you could be here with me, but maybe that's too cruel a punishment. | ||
| But thank you, Steve. | ||
| I'll talk to you soon. | ||
| Okay, ma'am. | ||
| Brian Glenn's there with Real America's Voice. | ||
| Amanda Head's going to be there for John Solomon. | ||
| We're going to cover this. | ||
| There's so much to cover. | ||
| Plus, we're on people on Capitol Hill. | ||
| So it's kind of shifting the center of gravity and a hat tip to the communications staff, who I think realizes the power of the streaming services and the power of the podcast to really get the word out and to do the types of hard work as necessary to get things done and to make sure that people understand what's going on. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
| Frank Gaffney, two of my favorite people, Frank Gaffney and John Gondola. | ||
| I think there's been something lost. | ||
| Seriously lost. | ||
| Because, you know, Rahim and Frank and I and John have been at this. | ||
| I've been at it, I don't know, for almost 20 years. | ||
| I guess I made my first film about this on Reagan in this back in 2004. So about 20 years. | ||
| 20 years. | ||
| Something's getting lost in this conversation about the Middle East. | ||
| And I think we've got to do a little bit, not a reset, but just kind of make sure everything's on the table when we talk about it. | ||
| Because there's a lot of vitriol and people are, you know, having hard feelings. | ||
| No need to have hard feelings, but I think we've got to put the context of what's going on over there. | ||
| We're going to be back in a moment. | ||
| We want to make sure Home Title Lock, don't let anybody take you off the ramparts. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann. | |
| Okay. | ||
| To get going, I want people to understand two people are going to be up Thursday. | ||
| So I'm going to hold this for 5 o'clock. | ||
| But I'm now aware that I think it was NBC News or someone broke the story this morning about Kash Patel on some whistleblower from the FBI about some incident. | ||
| Complete nonsense. | ||
| The Warren Posse and Grace, we're going to have the Bill Blaster. | ||
| We'll get Mike Davis with Article 3. We've got work to do on going to the ramparts for cash. | ||
| I'm just informed now that the New York Times is getting ready to publish this afternoon a major hit piece on our own Tulsi Gabbard. | ||
| And it's also filled with false information, but we will be manning. | ||
| So the 5-7 tonight will tee off just like we did for Pete Hexeth, just like we did for Gates, although Gates pulled out. | ||
| Just like we've done for everybody, for Pam Bondi, the whole crew. | ||
| We're going to have work to do this afternoon. | ||
| Grace will be on watch. | ||
| I'll get Mike Davis over here. | ||
| But we're going to have to let Capitol Hill know what we think about this. | ||
| This is one of our great functions here in the War Room. | ||
| So 5 to 7, both Tulsi Gabbard and Cash Patel. | ||
| They're coming in on Thursday for their hearings, and they intend to chop both of those great patriots up, and we will not tolerate it here in the War Room. | ||
| Frank Gaffney. | ||
| Frank, you and I have worked on this project for 20 years. | ||
| John Guandola also in a professional capacity over the FBI as a trainer. | ||
| Raheem Kassam in the no-go zones. | ||
| You were banned at Fox for CPAC first and then banned at Fox for talking about what Elon Musk has just gotten famous for over the last couple of weeks. | ||
| They took Gaffney off the TV, I think still now, over 10 years. | ||
| But Frank, something's getting lost, and people I really respect, Tucker Carlson, Kurt Mills, other people I consider close colleagues and smart guys and others. | ||
| There's kind of this range war going on about Israel and about the Middle East and everything. | ||
| I just want to make sure and to reset what you and I have kind of dedicated, you've dedicated a big part of my life, not just being anti-CCP, but being anti-Sharia supremacy, and particularly in the Middle East now with the great power of politics, and you have... | ||
| The rise of really the Turkish, the Ottoman Empire. | ||
| You have the Persians still in play. | ||
| The Egyptians. | ||
| And you've got Qatar. | ||
| And you and I have worked on this forever. | ||
| And this is President Trump. | ||
| We went to Riyadh for a reason. | ||
| On the first trip President Trump took. | ||
| Riyadh, Jerusalem, and Rome. | ||
| In that order. | ||
| And I was one of the architects of that. | ||
| And recommended we go in that order. | ||
| And President Trump addressed. | ||
| The Muslim nations. | ||
| And we have a memorandum of understanding of terrorism finance. | ||
| And Qatar refused to sign it and came up with all kind of excuses. | ||
| It's a nest of vipers over there. | ||
| I just think we're missing the context that you can't talk about Israel and the other nations. | ||
| You can't talk about... | ||
| And we're not... | ||
| I'm not saying we... | ||
| I'm not a land... | ||
| I served over there in the North Arabian Sea in the Persian Gulf during the hostage crisis in the workup for the raid. | ||
| I've got some skin in the game, but I'm not a, let's go to land war with Persia, let's go bomb them. | ||
| I'm saying you have to contextualize this. | ||
| This has to be in this construct of a, not Islam, but a radical form of Islam that is supremacist. | ||
| And Qatar sees a play here with Turkey and Persia to take over, essentially the Gulf Emirates, and to take over the two holy sites and to have Turkey run it under their auspices. | ||
| And Israel's going to get caught in a pincer move here. | ||
| It's obvious to me what's going on, and that's why I think we have to start having a conversation that puts the strategic context in what's happening in Europe and what's happening in Rotherham, all in context. | ||
| Frank Gaffney. | ||
| Well, Steve, let me just start by saying thank you for your lifetime of service on this cause. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| There's been an enormous amount of efforts, and John Guendolo has the scars to show it, as do I, to suppress. | ||
| The kind of information that we're going to share here. | ||
| And I couldn't be more grateful, not only that Natalie's got her gig, but that your show is, as she said, this incredible opportunity for people to learn the truth. | ||
| And let me just acknowledge one other piece of your service, sir. | ||
| I believe it was the day after you took over as the campaign chairman of the presidential campaign of Donald Trump in 2016. August 15, 2016, to be precise, that he went to Youngstown, Ohio, and he laid out in what I consider to be one of his finest speeches ever, essentially an agenda for both understanding the nature. | ||
| He didn't call it Sharia supremacism. | ||
| I think that's what it is, but he called it radical Islamic terrorism. | ||
| And he suggested the specific things we have to do, including stopping importing more. | ||
| Of those who are practitioners of it. | ||
| What a concept. | ||
| As well as rooting out, stripping the support networks that these guys use in our country. | ||
| And John Guondolo, my dear friend and a great freedom fighter, has learned and understood and taught more about all of this than anybody. | ||
| So I'll leave it to him to talk a little bit more about how the Muslim Brotherhood features into this. | ||
| But suffice it to say, our Victory Coalition, which you've encouraged us to establish, VictoryCo.org is where you can find more about it, is meant to be a vehicle for doing precisely this kind of public education. | ||
| And whether it's guys who are professing that they want to have restraint, and that that's really what Donald Trump is all about. | ||
| When, in fact, it's about retreat. | ||
| You talk about the 80s. | ||
| Ronald Reagan was responding to what the Henry Kissingers and the Graham Allisons and the alike, you know, thought we ought to do to retreat from inevitable defeat at the hands of the Soviet Union. | ||
| Reagan wanted no part of it. | ||
| I don't believe Donald Trump has been elected to sound retreat. | ||
| And I have a piece up at Gate Stone and hopefully shortly at the War Room platform on this subject. | ||
| He was elected by the American people to once again practice peace through strength. | ||
| I personally think that the guys who have been able to get inside the wire from the Koch empire at the Defense Department don't get this. | ||
| But you do. | ||
| I think Donald Trump does, and I think he's not going to want him anywhere near his policymaking apparatus when he finds out that they're there. - You have to have a balance. | ||
| When you talk about restraining, you have to have a balance. | ||
| Remember, Trump? | ||
| In the National Security Council, adamantly fought the cruise missile attack on Syria because I said, hey, we haven't proved the case that he actually used chemical weapons, number one. | ||
| Number two, this is just like the Clintons. | ||
| Throw a couple of cruise missiles in there. | ||
| They'll be flying combat sorties the next day. | ||
| It just looks weak. | ||
| And they all cheered him on. | ||
| Morning Joe, David Ignatius, they all want to get Trump into doing the standard thing. | ||
| President Trump eventually, as he got wiser in this, got rid of the John Boltons and the guys that wanted to light things up. | ||
| And I do agree with restraint. | ||
| You have to be very, very careful when you think about this region. | ||
| And we spent too much blood. | ||
| I'm a big pivot to Asia guy. | ||
| However, it can't be lost on you that Turkey's on the move right now. | ||
| I mean, Erdogan is, the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization and should be designated just like the Mexican cartels, and I think far worse than the Mexican cartels. | ||
| They're a terrorist organization, and I tell people, all the work I got done in the White House, and I got a lot done in those nine months, the one I couldn't get any traction on at all is the Muslim Brotherhood's terrorist organization. | ||
| The apparatus shut it down, and Guandola, you know this, Guandola, because you've been at the FBI and an instructor of how... | ||
| It's, you know, we've got a problem with Muslim Brotherhood, and we've got a problem with radical jihad. | ||
| You just saw in New Orleans, they took a guy, drove a car down, a former army guy, drove a car down and butchered, what, 10 people? | ||
| This is a problem. | ||
| And it's not really getting better. | ||
| You can put your head in the sand and think it's getting better, but it's not. | ||
| John Guandola, your thoughts? | ||
| First of all, Steve, thanks again for having me. | ||
| I would say this. | ||
| I think that not only... | ||
| Is the American public lacking serious understanding of the threats, but understanding how well coordinated these threats are and the command and control from the international level. | ||
| Down to the local mosque level in the United States is astounding. | ||
| From a warfighting perspective and understanding that the global Islamic movement, and that's how they describe themselves, is at war with the West and with the United States. | ||
| So a few points. | ||
| Number one, the largest terrorism financing trial in American history, the United States versus the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, which was adjudicated in Dallas, Texas in 2008, revealed That the most prominent Islamic organizations in the United States are, | ||
| as a matter of fact and evidence, a part of an identifiable movement that seeks to overthrow un-Islamic governments and impose Sharia Islamic law on all people. | ||
| And we can look at, let's just look at one ruling from three organizations that tried to have their names removed from the unindicted co-conspirator list. | ||
| ISNA, NAIT, and CAIR, the Islamic Society of North America, which until the U.S. CMO was the largest Muslim Brotherhood umbrella group in the country. | ||
| NAIT, North American Islamic Trust, the Bank for the Brotherhood in North America. | ||
| And the last remaining of the original four Hamas organizations, now there are a number of others, the Council on American-Islamic Relations. | ||
| That was formed by the Muslim Brothers. | ||
| Muslim Brotherhood's Palestine Committee CARE, which was Hamas in the United States. | ||
| That's a matter of legal fact. | ||
| ISNA, the Islamic Society of North America, has been their former vice president and president up until he may still be sitting on it, but was one of the nine commissioners on the U.S. Commission for International Religious Freedom under Mr. Biden. | ||
| They received an award, the FBI Director's Award from James Comey. | ||
| They participated in outreach. | ||
| With the FBI and the State Department. | ||
| He was publicly thanked by Dick Durbin when he held his hearings on the quote civil rights of Muslims in America. | ||
| So the very organizations, our leaders at the national security staffs, down to state level and local level officials, including quote unquote interfaith outreach is all controlled by these guys. | ||
| The Islamic Society of North America. | ||
| CARE and the International Institute of Islamic Thought, as well as, to some extent, the Islamic Circle in North America, control the interfaith outreach in the United States where Muslims are involved. | ||
| You know, so when we look at this, and you look at the fact that you have these are not—these groups we're talking about, these are not homegrown, regular old Islamic groups. | ||
| These are— Organizations that were created and are being controlled by hostile foreign powers, like Qatar, like Iran, like Saudi Arabia, like Pakistan, and the intelligence services... | ||
| Hang on, hang on. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| You just said hostile... | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| You just said hostile powers, and you said Qatar, which we have a massive base in, right? | ||
| And, you know, they're in back of, you know, Whitcoff and these guys cutting this deal. | ||
| On Hamas, and you just said the Saudis, and last time I looked, we're trying to get a deal with that in Israel, and we've got troops all over the place. | ||
| We're the defense of the House of Saud. | ||
| So you just called them hostile powers. | ||
| There must be a disconnect because the U.S. government, even under President Trump, is not treating these people like hostile powers. | ||
| You've got a minute. | ||
| I'm going to take you to break. | ||
| How do you back that up? | ||
| Well, first of all, If you look at whose funding, and there is plenty of evidence and testimony of the funding from Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Qatar, to al-Qaeda, ISIS, and the Muslim Brotherhood, to be sure. | ||
| I mean, who paid for most of the infrastructure here in the United States to be built of Saudi Arabia? | ||
| That's about it. | ||
| John, hang on. | ||
| We're going to go to break. | ||
| But there's a big differentiation between Persia, and we've got to start calling it Persia. | ||
| Young people today have seen 300. They understand the West. | ||
| Athens and Rome had an enemy. | ||
| It was Persia. | ||
| Calling it Iran, I think, confuses people. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| And I'm served over there. | ||
| Number one. | ||
| Number two, Persia and... | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Persia and Pakistan are a different breed of cat than Saudi Arabia and Qatar. | ||
| They're just totally different. | ||
| You can't bunch them together. | ||
| Anyway, short commercial break. | ||
| John Gwondola, Frank Gaffney. | ||
| The contextualization of what in the hell are we even doing in the Middle East? | ||
| Short break. | ||
| All right, back in a moment. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Okay, we got a lot of work to do. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard, big hit piece coming in the New York Times. | ||
| Cash Patel, that hit piece was where? | ||
| It was exclusive? | ||
| CBS News took a hit on Cash with this whistleblower. | ||
| It's all nonsense. | ||
| We're going to get to that this afternoon. | ||
| We're going to get to Tulsi Gabbards. | ||
| That's coming out, I think, in a while. | ||
| I don't think the New York Times has published it yet. | ||
| Gaffney and Guandola, this is too serious. | ||
| I can't jam this in. | ||
| I don't want to jam it in. | ||
| We're going to have you back at 6 to go through this. | ||
| Frank. | ||
| Gatestone is going to publish it this afternoon. | ||
| So is War Room. | ||
| What time? | ||
| Approximately, where do they go to get the piece? | ||
| Your social media first, and then they'll do John's. | ||
| Gatestone Institute has it up on their site right now. | ||
| I think the War Room's now got it. | ||
| It's gatestoneinstitute.org. | ||
| I want to thank Nina Rosenwald for helping get it up quickly. | ||
| Prime piece of reporting on the problem that we started with, Steve, the restraint versus retreat. | ||
| I'm also at victoryco.org and Institute for the American Future. | ||
| That's usfuture.org. | ||
| And Securing America, of course. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| I'll see you back here at 6. Remember, I'm a restraint guy that doesn't want retreat, but I want to contextualize this to make sure people know the players. | ||
| Persia, Turkey. | ||
| John, where do people go to catch up with everything you've been up to? | ||
| So, JohnGuandolo.com is the website, and JayGuandolo54271 on Twitter. | ||
| John Guandolo is one of the greatest patriots we have in this country, and man, they have tried to screw his life up big time for being a hero and a patriot, and fighting the good fight now for a couple of decades. | ||
| Guys, I'll see you back here at 6. Thank you. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| John Guandola, if you knew the behind-the-scenes of what happened to guys like this, the heroes that stepped up when it was not popular, this thing's a problem. | ||
| You have to put it in context. | ||
| The Muslim Brotherhood's a problem. | ||
| Bad as the cartels are, they're kind of limited. | ||
| They're getting bigger because of fentanyl and making money. | ||
| Of course, there's chemical warfare from the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Muslim Brotherhood is a major terrorist organization. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| I don't want to hear how many schools and how many hospitals they're running. | ||
| That's all cover. | ||
| We'll get to that at 6. But you always must put this thing in context. | ||
| Contextualize. | ||
| And I'm a pivot to China. | ||
| Remember, let's take down the CP. President Trump, I want to get out of the Middle East as quickly as you can get out of there. | ||
| But you've got to face realities. | ||
| About leaving or what you're defending in Europe and the United States. | ||
| Natalie Dominguez, what are we defending here, ma'am? | ||
| Because we need people at the ramparts. | ||
| Perfect example today. | ||
| We're going to need a big showing of the Warren Posse starting this afternoon. | ||
| We get back here at 5 o'clock. | ||
| We tell you what's going on. | ||
| Break it all down for you. | ||
| But tomorrow and the next day, these hearings of Bobby Kennedy, the hearings of Pam Bondi, and particularly Tulsi Gabbard and Cash, they think Thursday... | ||
| They got the target on them. | ||
| We need to be the rampart. | ||
| And you can't sit there and have the angst of having somebody taking a big second mortgage on your home. | ||
| Natalie Dominguez, what do you got for us? | ||
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Hi, Steve. | |
| Well, today I want to focus on the most vulnerable of our population when it comes to fraud, the elderly. | ||
| You know, we see these tragic headlines in the news every week. | ||
| And I'd say for me, most of them I feel are, you know, elderly. | ||
| So like, man's granddaughter steals his title. | ||
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| And despite the legislation that passed in New York surrounding de-theft scams, the Brooklyn District Attorney said that there's two investigations that happened with this in 2019-2022, and they haven't been able to put a stop to the foreclosure. | ||
| Why, you ask? | ||
| I will tell you because the family didn't find out about it on time and there's a statute of limitations for contesting the fraud. | ||
| I don't think I've talked about this before. | ||
| Did you know that Steve that there's a statute of limitations for even just being able to contest fraud in the United States. | ||
| Did not know that. | ||
| Every county, every state, it's different. | ||
| It's different everywhere. | ||
| So it's not even really consistent across the board. | ||
| So for this family, the actual fraud took place years prior to them finding out about it. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, they're getting eviction notices on their doorstep. | ||
| And then they had to take action. | ||
| So today, I don't really want to address homeowners themselves, even though that's definitely important. | ||
| But I want to talk to, you know, adult children of elderly homeowners, people with people in their family they just really want to take care of. | ||
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Thanks, Steve. | |
| We need you at the Ramparts. | ||
| Today is going to be a work day. | ||
| I'm telling you, they're coming after cash, and they're coming after Tulsi hard. | ||
| President Trump gets all of his cabinet, and the war room guarantees it. | ||
| Mike Lindell, crosses, sheets, towels, and pillows, sir. | ||
| What do you got? | ||
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