Jan. 27, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Over the past couple of months about my fear, I think our fear, of three bubbles. | ||
| The crypto bubble, the fiscal bubble, $36 trillion, and the stock market bubble. | ||
| I want to read this. | ||
| I just looked this up while Mika was introducing you. | ||
| This is from Fortune three days ago. | ||
| The stock market gauge named after Warren Buffett just hit an all-time high, sending a warning worse than before. | ||
| The dot-com bubble bust. | ||
| Hey, this may be a one-day story. | ||
| That said, Warren Buffett's believed for a very long time, and a lot of other people like me believe forever. | ||
| The valuations are not connected to reality, whether you're talking about crypto, whether you're talking about just how huge the overvaluation is of a lot of stocks. | ||
| Look, there's no question the market has been almost priced to perfection. | ||
| It almost has to be perfect for it to all work out or make any kind of sense. | ||
| And by the way, you're talking about crypto and you're looking at these AI and big tech stocks. | ||
| They're almost connected this morning insofar as Bitcoin has now fallen below $100,000 in large part because a lot of the folks who own crypto also happen to be beneficiaries or happen to have owned a lot of those big tech companies. | ||
| I just want to put this in perspective quickly. | ||
| Today, this week... | ||
| Last week, I think is going to be historic in terms of a major shift, an upending of the entire paradigm around artificial intelligence. | ||
| The big tech companies, the big chip companies, and everything else around it, including energy. | ||
| You know, for a very long time, last two years, we've talked about these scaling laws, this idea that for AI to get better and better, you need faster and faster chips. | ||
| They need to be putting tens and hundreds of billions of dollars of investment in place. | ||
| They need enormous amounts of energy to support all of that. | ||
| All of a sudden, literally in a week, we've now seen DeepSeek, this Chinese large language model emerge. | ||
| Where it appears it's all being done at a fraction of the energy, at a fraction of the chip usage. | ||
| And so if that is true, it really changes the dynamic about all of these investments. | ||
| We just saw last week Sam Altman, Sam Altman, OpenAI, standing next to President Trump. | ||
| That's Andrew Ross Sorkin of the New York Times. | ||
| That's on Squawk Box. | ||
| Mark Beckman, he's a professor of emerging technologies over at NYU. He's also the author of Some Future Day, a major new book about artificial intelligence, and our own Joe Allen. | ||
| I'll start with Mark. | ||
| So folks, here's what the big deal was over the weekend. | ||
| Nobody saw this coming. | ||
| And whereas open AI and our AI, the structure... | ||
| Of the way we do AI. The architectonics, I guess, is our architecture of it. | ||
| It's kind of brute force. | ||
| It takes a massive amount of energy. | ||
| You notice you haven't seen the apartheid state of Silicon Valley, the progressive leftist that all of a sudden had a Damascene moment, right? | ||
| They had the road to Damascus when Pennsylvania went to Trump on the evening of 5 November. | ||
| They're now all MAGA. Don't buy that for a second, folks. | ||
| These guys are not MAGA. They're incredibly bad units. | ||
| They've had this model, and that's what Stargate, Stargate, which has got all these other issues, you know, vaccine and all that, it also takes a massive amount of energy. | ||
| I gave a speech in Texas at Denton to the Denton Republicans. | ||
| I want to thank them. | ||
| Just an incredible group of folks. | ||
| You know, in Texas, you can't get the grid to work when it's 15 degrees, but they're going to come up with a whole new model for energy. | ||
| Now, what happened over the weekend is the CCP came out with DeepSeek, and it, like, is a fraction. | ||
| Now, the question is, is this a Sputnik moment, or is this a CCP PSYOP? One thing I can tell you is that you can load this on an app, and once again, just like in TikTok, your fellow citizens, and somebody's got this up on Twitter, I think, your fellow citizens will line up around the corner, around the corner, and go back for miles. | ||
| To give the Chinese Communist Party their data for free. | ||
| As long as they can get free stuff. | ||
| I'm not sure they fully understand the implications of it. | ||
| This thing's quite complicated. | ||
| So Mark Beckman, you're the expert. | ||
| Is this a Sputnik moment? | ||
| Or is this a very sophisticated CCP PSYOP, sir? | ||
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Steve, thank you so much for having me today. | |
| I appreciate it. | ||
| I appreciate you. | ||
| I think your skepticism that you're kind of alluding to here as far as the issue of trust should be considered by everyone. | ||
| This isn't an overnight thing. | ||
| DeepSeek's been around for a while. | ||
| In fact, its founder is the same founder of a hedge fund called High Flyer that was built in 2016 with AI in mind. | ||
| I was using DeepSeek this past summer. | ||
| They've done an incredible job with communications. | ||
| They control the narrative on social media. | ||
| And Americans like sheep went right after the shiny object, the shiny object being value. | ||
| So for free, they could go and use DeepSeek now. | ||
| And of course, it catapulted to the number one ad. | ||
| The number one downloaded app in the Apple App Store. | ||
| But there are concerns, and you alluded to it, not just like TikTok, where mass user adoption came in, perhaps because- The owners of TikTok were playing with the amount of likes, right? | ||
| Like you'd get thousands of likes on TikTok and perhaps just hundreds on Instagram. | ||
| But we've seen this playbook from China across the board with drones recently too, with DJI, where they could undercut the market, they could create lower price propositions, and everybody could come in and buy. | ||
| And I think that's what we're seeing here. | ||
| So I'm skeptical. | ||
| I'm concerned. | ||
| I think that all the Americans rush in and they want to use it and they're going to use it. | ||
| But at the same time, they're going, China will have access to our data. | ||
| There's no doubt about it. | ||
| So Mark, hang on for a second. | ||
| You know, one of our folks in the production crew, one of my young bucks, he's already been trying this. | ||
| He just, he asked DeepSeek a basic question. | ||
| What happened in Tiananmen Square in 1989? | ||
| The response of the most sophisticated artificial intelligence in the world. | ||
| Sorry, that's beyond my current scope. | ||
| Let's talk about something else. | ||
| So this is a total CCP scam. | ||
| Here's a question, though, Mark. | ||
| You're a very smart guy, dialed in everywhere. | ||
| We're basically in Obama and Biden, not so much Trump, because we weren't there that long. | ||
| But the Obama administration and the Obama administration and the Biden administration, the kind of overlords, sociopathic overlords of the Democratic Party, made a deal with the apartheid state in Silicon Valley to say, guys, we will let you become the wealthiest people on earth and we will let you have monopolistic power. | ||
| You know, was it Linda Kahn aside? | ||
| You know, right now there's 50 or 70 EV companies, but there's only Google, right? | ||
| You've got Search with no competitors. | ||
| You've got Facebook with no competitors. | ||
| So you have monopolistic power. | ||
| The Justice Department is never going to try to break these things up for competition. | ||
| With the proposition that you're going to be full-spectrum dominance in technology, and particularly anything related to an algorithm. | ||
| So Andreessen, you guys will make a fortune. | ||
| Sequoia Capital, you'll make a fortune. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| And yet here we are, and correct me if I'm wrong, you have on social media with TikTok, you have something much more sophisticated than what we have. | ||
| And now you have DeepSeek, and if you believe at least what the last 24 hours said, you have something radically cheaper, easier to use, and can overwhelm the market of open AI, etc. | ||
| So the deal we made with these guys was terrible because they didn't deliver Sir. | ||
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Well, here's the thing, Steve. | |
| The way you teed this up, this segment, is important. | ||
| You provided context as it relates to the need for energy. | ||
| But then also, beyond that, there's the need for compute and the technology. | ||
| And China's going all in. | ||
| That clip from Morning Joe is kind of ridiculous in my mind, because China's investing trillions of dollars. | ||
| Behind energy, compute, and technology to compete with these American entities, to compete with Google. | ||
| And you're going to see it right here, right now. | ||
| So most people are going to use DeepSeek, probably the producer that you were talking about, for search purposes. | ||
| Most will not use it for API purposes. | ||
| And for search, that's where they're getting all of our data. | ||
| That's where it's going to be connected to. | ||
| All of our phones, all of our computers, exactly the way that you're articulating or seeing TikTok playing out on American citizens' devices, where their data can be collected, we'll see the same thing here with DeepSeek. | ||
| And of course, because they're undercutting the market, people will use it. | ||
| It's cost-efficient. | ||
| It's a good tool. | ||
| It's a good product right now, for sure. | ||
| And that's what we're going to see. | ||
| That's the risk. | ||
| Tell me about Some Future Day, your book, because you have warnings in there, and it's very even-handed. | ||
| But correct me if I'm wrong, you see more upside. | ||
| My concern with AI right now is that we could be looking over the abyss, and if we don't watch ourselves, and essentially we have the maturity of 11-year-olds, young boys in Silicon Valley making these massive decisions for the entire country, and therefore the world. | ||
| But is it correct that you're a little more optimistic about this technology, sir? | ||
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I am. | |
| I'm very optimistic about it. | ||
| And I created, I wrote the book Some Future Day, so beginners can figure out how they can leverage the technology to their benefit. | ||
| In their career, for their families, and for cities. | ||
| However, Steve, like you, there are some real concerns, like for example, with privacy. | ||
| I get into this in some future day. | ||
| Are you aware that facial recognition software is already being used in a small amount of cases by the Miami Police Department? | ||
| Didn't know that. | ||
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The same technology that's used in China, it's number one in China. | |
| That same technology is being used right here in America. | ||
| So privacy is an issue. | ||
| The other issue is cyber attacks. | ||
| I mean, artificial intelligence as it relates to cyber attacks coming into the United States is seriously daunting. | ||
| I think we heard just recently the former director. | ||
| Of the FBI or the CIA mentioned the fact that there are Chinese sleeper cells in the United States. | ||
| But here in New York City, they're receiving billions of cyber attacks driven through the use of artificial intelligence against the infrastructure. | ||
| And since we have a decentralized economy where the private sector is running our hospitals, our water supply and beyond, it's much more difficult for New York City to defend itself than it might be, for example, when we go. | ||
| And attack into places like China, into Iran, where they have a centralized vision. | ||
| So the fact is that my book is good at getting people into AI for their careers if they are into fashion, finance, sports, military. | ||
| There's an awesome section with regards to the evolution of war, specifically as it relates to drones. | ||
| I think your audience would love that section in particular. | ||
| But there are real concerns, Steve. | ||
| And I know you share a lot of them. | ||
| And you're right, too, to have those concerns. | ||
| Mark, it's on Amazon today. | ||
| Where else? | ||
| Are you going around giving talks? | ||
| Is there some schedule? | ||
| Can you send us to a website? | ||
| Our audience loves details and receipts, and I'm sure they'd love to see you publicly if you're going around to a book signing or book launch. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So we just launched this thing. | ||
| It was right on top of the inaugural period. | ||
| So we're starting to get our act together now. | ||
| But if you follow me, at Mark Beckman, M-A-R-C-B-E-C-K-M-A-N, on all platforms, you'll be able to see where we're going and what's going on in the space. | ||
| Mark, appreciate you coming on. | ||
| See, we've got to deal with it. | ||
| It's a tool and it's a reality. | ||
| It's a reality in finance. | ||
| It's a reality in fashion, sports, media. | ||
| I think it's Axios is turning over their regional, they're going to start these regional, you know, Axios like Nebraska, Axios, Denver. | ||
| They're going to use AI. It's a reality. | ||
| I am more than a little skeptical. | ||
| But we've got to deal with reality and figure out how we form reality back into something that's safe. | ||
| Mark Beckman, some future day, and some future day is today. | ||
| It's here. | ||
| Joe Allen's going to join me. | ||
| We're also going to Texas. | ||
| I was honored to speak in Denton. | ||
| I'm going back to Texas to speak at the end of February in the Fort Worth area, Tarrant County. | ||
| I think we had over 1,000 people at the dinner. | ||
| Saturday night, these great patriots from Denton, Texas. | ||
| Tons of people in the precinct strategy. | ||
| So proud of you guys and what you've done. | ||
| We're going to break down. | ||
| There's something not right in Texas with this situation with these 32 Republicans voting for the Democrats and all the reports coming out that we have the chairmanships of all the committees that covers up what's really happening. | ||
| I was able to spend time with General Paxton, Attorney General Paxton, one of the great, great, great Americans out there. | ||
| Okay, we're going to stay on this situation because there's something up here, folks. | ||
| Something up here. | ||
| Chinese Communist Party has TikTok. | ||
| Now they have Deep Seek. | ||
| A pincer move on the American people next in the war room. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| Okay, um... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Boy, we're covering a lot of the waterfront today, aren't we? | ||
| And going deep. | ||
| There's so much going on, and we're trying to keep it so that you get the signal and not the noise. | ||
| Because there is a lot of performative right now. | ||
| But in this regard, performative is good. | ||
| Because it's sending signals. | ||
| But there's so much also going on that's quite to the point and meaningful. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| The rest of this week, for scheduling purposes, Wednesday, Thursday. | ||
| So Thursday is Cash and Tulsi. | ||
| And that'll be during the show. | ||
| We'll be cutting back and forth and giving you commentary and observations on our own Cash Battelle. | ||
| And of course, Tulsi Gabbard, a friend of the War Room. | ||
| And a great, great person, great individual. | ||
| Hers is a little bit, you know, hanging. | ||
| You saw McConnell, what he did on Friday night, playing his games. | ||
| More on that later. | ||
| Maybe it's this evening. | ||
| And then tomorrow is Pam Bondi. | ||
| I'm trying to ascertain this. | ||
| I don't know if it's more people supporting her. | ||
| They're back to drill down on more questions. | ||
| And of course, Bobby Kennedy. | ||
| Excuse me, not Tuesday. | ||
| It's Wednesday. | ||
| Wednesday is Kennedy. | ||
| And Tony Lyons is going to join us. | ||
| He ran the pack for Kennedy. | ||
| So we got Kennedy on Wednesday, Pam Bondi round two and last round on Wednesday, Kash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard Thursday. | ||
| Wednesday, Thursday are big. | ||
| Big. | ||
| Got to get President Trump's team in here. | ||
| So Joe Allen. | ||
| And Joe is going to be, we had Joe on assignment. | ||
| We're still working through that assignment. | ||
| But there's so much going on in the world of technology. | ||
| There's so much going on in the world, particularly... | ||
| Not just AI, but the singularity, which I warned the people about in Denton, Texas. | ||
| And I gave kind of my typical fire-breathing speech beforehand. | ||
| I'm banging on the podium and people are standing up and cheering on certain occasions. | ||
| And those Texans are ready for a fight. | ||
| But then I finished talking about this issue we're talking about right now and about the singularity and how important it is and how this is really the... | ||
| One of the hinge moments in history about this. | ||
| We're saving our republic and therefore saving the world. | ||
| And in most times in history, that would be something that the age would be defined by. | ||
| And in American history, it will be. | ||
| But there's something underneath and deeper about the convergence of all these technologies and what it means for homo sapien and, let's be blunt, homo sapien plus. | ||
| And you are at the tip of the spear in this fight. | ||
| This audience is so much more sophisticated about this because for four years we've had a guy like Joe Allen here every week giving amazing analysis and observations and then writing it. | ||
| It's still, I think, the best book about this. | ||
| Joe, last night you and I have been all over the weekend talking to each other. | ||
| First off, explain exactly what is going on, and is this the Sputnik moment of the wake-up call for American on the technology side and the AI side, or is this a very sophisticated CCP PSYOP, sir? | ||
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Well, Steve, I think it's a bit of both. | |
| At this point, the media is so flooded with conflicting information that it's impossible not to see it as multiple psyops. | ||
| I mean, at this point, psyop has come to almost just be a synonym for advertisement or messaging. | ||
| What happened was that the Chinese company DeepSeek released their large language model, R1. They open-sourced it, which means that you can look at and alter the code. | ||
| You can download it and put it on your own computer. | ||
| But more alarmingly, when they released it as an app... | ||
| On Apple, for the U.S., it rocketed to number one. | ||
| I don't have any hard numbers, but that means that a lot of Americans are trusting their data to China. | ||
| Everything that they're putting into the system goes into a Chinese server. | ||
| Much of the information that gets gathered from their phones or whatever device is going to a Chinese server. | ||
| It's very much like TikTok. | ||
| What's also happening in response, just speaking of PSYOPs, what this did was undercut all of the promises of U.S. companies from NVIDIA to Stargate Project to Elon Musk's Grok and XAI, all of that. | ||
| What the Chinese showed was that it was possible to create an AI that performs... | ||
| About as well as some of the top U.S. models, but produced with far less money, far less compute, and they released it for free. | ||
| So it's the ultimate sort of release of a generic to undercut the top... | ||
| But hang on. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| This is the linchpin. | ||
| I want to go back to this. | ||
| Maybe we get Dave Walsh for tonight. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Folks, in an advanced industrial economy, energy... | ||
| And the production of energy is 50% of the game because that provides the foundational element. | ||
| This is why the German people in Germany with their elites on all this Green New Deal, net zero carbon, all this fantasy, they're in a free fall right now. | ||
| This is one of the reasons Alternative for Deutschland is on a roll. | ||
| This is one of the reasons that Elon now is involved in that and supporting Alternative for Deutschland because they are actually a real alternative. | ||
| Not just on the immigration issue, but across the board for rationality. | ||
| You saw all these progressive Democrats, because they're only progressive as performative in front to make your life more miserable and divert your signal for themselves. | ||
| The apartheid state of Silicon Valley make the robber barons look like Franciscan monks. | ||
| These are the, they're all on the spectrum, they're all 11 years old, they got mentality, they're all incredibly immature. | ||
| And it's all about them. | ||
| They're beyond narcissists. | ||
| So when they saw artificial intelligence and other things of the push of the singularity all requires massive amounts of energy, particularly in the way they have the models set up, right? | ||
| These large language models. | ||
| We have, and I would say, Joe, I would call it a blunt force instrument, right? | ||
| We do it by blunt computing power and force. | ||
| It needs massive amounts of energy. | ||
| As Dave Walsh has told you, multiples of what we have today. | ||
| So all of a sudden you don't see a lot of talk about climate change anymore. | ||
| They're just not interested in it. | ||
| They've got to get power and get power quickly and massive amounts of it and close to what these data centers are. | ||
| So when this came out over the weekend, the question is, it's a hundredth of the cost. | ||
| It looks like a hundredth of the power. | ||
| All of this, and the question, Joe, have we answered, and they're Chinese, just like TikTok, they're putting it out there for free, so all the Americans jump on it, and then they've got your, because essentially it's search, right, or an aspect of search, they're going to have all your data. | ||
| And then when they can aggregate up that data, they essentially see how people think, what they're interested in, and they can program that. | ||
| And then, that's why the Saib, they then can control the population, and they have the number one instrument in social media with TikTok, which is quite addictive, and we saw what happened during the early stages of the Hamas war, and now you've got the equivalent of AI, which also takes you to the pincer move of artificial intelligence in social media. | ||
| Joe Allen, Sputnik moment or is it a PSYOP? And I know you say it's both, but which side do you lean on? | ||
| Because this is the key question right now. | ||
| You know, I don't think that it can really be... | ||
| Peeled apart, you've got the Sputnik moment messaging is itself a kind of PSYOP. So China is trying to show a degree of dominance in AI, and they've done a pretty good job of it. | ||
| Even if their technology is in fact based on OpenAI's research, and even if they are lying ultimately about how much money they've put into it, how much money it costs to train, and how many processing units that this system used to train. | ||
| I mean, Alexander Wayne of Scale AI claimed at Davos that they have far more advanced Nvidia chips than they're saying they do. | ||
| They just can't say so because of U.S. sanctions. | ||
| But as far as the Sputnik moment goes, this is why it's very complicated. | ||
| It's hard to tease apart. | ||
| You already saw the competition between Sam Altman and Elon Musk playing out, the attempt to undercut the Stargate project by Musk in order to... | ||
| I presume boost his own product. | ||
| Well, in this case, you've got China, you know, flexing their muscles on AI. And in response, you have people like Marc Andreessen talking about this as a Sputnik moment. | ||
| They beat us. | ||
| To space, so to speak. | ||
| And so we have to keep up. | ||
| And so on the other side of it, now you have American accelerationists saying that all of the talk about safety and all of the caution needs to be thrown out. | ||
| We need to jump into the AI race full steam ahead. | ||
| And that means, ultimately, that they are going to justify as much as possible the development of any kind of AI system that they feel is profitable or beneficial. | ||
| And it also means that in order for, for instance, a large language model to work, you have to scrape as much data as possible. | ||
| It's kind of naturally married to a degree of surveillance or at least of data mining. | ||
| That's going to be a much larger push with many fewer regulations. | ||
| So it's both. | ||
| On the one hand, you have the Chinese PSYOP. We can do it better than you with less compute and less money. | ||
| And on the American side, they're saying, no, we need more compute and more money. | ||
| We will take these sorts of open source projects. | ||
| We'll make them a thousand times better. | ||
| And ultimately, this arms race in the conception of the Silicon Valley guys leads to a singularity. | ||
| Hang on for one second. | ||
| The acceleration part is another brilliant part of the signal. | ||
| Because any of the controls we talked about, they said, no, no, no, you've got to get rid of the controls. | ||
| Also the visas, H-1B visas. | ||
| Oh, this proves we need all the Einsteins, although they're not bringing in Einsteins. | ||
| In fact, the AI will do away with the jobs for the low-end South Asian tech workers that are suppressing wages for Americans. | ||
| We're going to unpack it all, plus we'll go to Texas next. | ||
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Only in the Word. Only in the Word. | |
| Okay, I think we may be having a technical issue with Lee. | ||
| We're going to bring her back, I think, at 5 o'clock. | ||
| I've got to talk about this Texas thing, and I want to show you the word that the folks in Denton gave me. | ||
| Very touching. | ||
| Wasn't expecting that. | ||
| Just going down to give a talk. | ||
| I'm also going to bring Joe back, because we're going to see how the stock market... | ||
| At one point, it was over a trillion dollars. | ||
| Heading to $2 trillion, a market cap wiped out. | ||
| A little bit of stability as people try to work through this. | ||
| This gets back to the oligarchs. | ||
| Because they're definitely making a move. | ||
| There's no doubt about that. | ||
| Let's be logical about it. | ||
| All these people, all of them, Elon aside, all of them despise MAGA. Zuckerberg despises MAGA. Altman despises MAGA. And by that I mean also Trump. | ||
| The leader of the MAGA movement. | ||
| Andreessen despises MAGA, despises Trump. | ||
| They think you're just, they think you're a, you are useless. | ||
| Essentially useless. | ||
| Their whole model is to figure out how to replace humans with machines. | ||
| If I can generalize. | ||
| That's essentially the direction of it. | ||
| They want to replace humans with machines. | ||
| They want those machines to have all the way up to even consciousness if they feel they can control that. | ||
| You know, we're playing around with the deep sea. | ||
| Can you ask anything about Xi, anything about Tiananmen Square, anything about Taiwan? | ||
| You get straight on Chinese Communist Party propaganda. | ||
| You don't get truth. | ||
| You don't get facts. | ||
| Same thing on TikTok. | ||
| We have to face reality. | ||
| I realize people love using TikTok, and there's got to be a way for us to get a deal where we can control the algorithm and the company and do it in a way that people feel comfortable with. | ||
| Although I would tell you, even with the 7 million companies they're using and making things, it's addictive for a reason. | ||
| They built this for a reason. | ||
| They now have the ability for these algorithms to basically capture you, capture your spirit. | ||
| That's why we're in a... | ||
| It's an age of tremendous promise, but it's also an age with the pit of darkness right there. | ||
| It depends on, that's why more than ever, and this is why for four years we've been doing this and making sure that you're the most informed, not just in the MAGA movement, the most informed in the country about these issues, as we've done for four years, because this, once again, is going to require the common sense and decency. | ||
| The three basic aspects that the American people bring together collectively as a group when they make decisions is common sense, decency, and kind of grit and determination to understand the reality and what has to happen to effectuate or make happen what their thinking is. | ||
| Right? | ||
| History shows us that. | ||
| It takes a while to get there. | ||
| But you can't stop the power of the American people. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because this country has got a system where the little guy that throughout the world, either in the empires of Asia or the monarchies in Europe or the dictatorships all over the world, from sub-Saharan Africa to Latin America to Asia and Central Asia, Europe, have not had the little guy, has not been able to express his common sense. | ||
| And the decency of the little guy. | ||
| Because there's a commonality of that all over the world. | ||
| This may be the biggest challenge of all because there's so much money to be made. | ||
| It's so powerful. | ||
| It has such ability for dictatorial total control and total power with also money that you can't believe, wealth that you can't believe. | ||
| This is why this is a part of techno-feudalism. | ||
| It's what Joe Allen and I bonded on when I first was reading his great stuff over at The Federalist. | ||
| That this is the ultimate fight for freedom. | ||
| It's when people say, oh, you guys about the replacement theory of whites with people of color. | ||
| I said, you couldn't be farther from the truth. | ||
| We fight for everybody that's a citizen, regardless of ethnicity or race. | ||
| It's about citizenship in your own country, in the sovereignty of your own country. | ||
| This is about replacement theory. | ||
| This is 100% replacement theory, and that is replacement theory of human beings made in the image and likeness of God and spewed with the life force of the Holy Spirit who shall not be mocked, as our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ tells you, shall not be blasphemed, because that's the only unforgivable sin. | ||
| Think of when he says that. | ||
| This is a guy, if you read the New Testaments, The New Testament, all four of them, and even the ones that maybe are not totally signed off on. | ||
| The entire time, it's the empathy, the courage, and the toughness. | ||
| It's only one time he tells you that there's something here. | ||
| You go past this, and I can't help you. | ||
| Nobody can help you. | ||
| It's not forgiveness. | ||
| It's an eternal sin. | ||
| That's to mock the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| To play God, and that's where we're heading, and we're heading there rapidly. | ||
| And very quickly, it's going to be not reversible. | ||
| This is my warning, people. | ||
| It's not going to be reversible. | ||
| This is why Joe Allen's been slaving away here for four years. | ||
| There's a point of no return. | ||
| Joe Allen, I know you've been particularly... | ||
| We talked about redoing your efforts on your special project, which we're going to complete, but you've got to get back into the fray on a daily basis. | ||
| How worried are you right now about all of this, sir? | ||
| You know, the spiritual element that you just mentioned is the most disturbing to me because whatever the actual developments are in this technological field, whether it's AI, brain-computer interfaces, humanoid robots, genetic engineering, whatever the actual outcome of the technology is, the spirit of it is exactly what you said. | ||
| The spirit of it is to first play God and then... | ||
| In the more extreme versions, to become gods. | ||
| And in the most extreme version, to build a digital god or a pantheon of digital gods. | ||
| Now, I think most of the people in the audience would say, well, that's impossible. | ||
| Absolutely, that's impossible. | ||
| But what is not impossible is to build up idols like they did in Egypt or in Rome. | ||
| And to make people bow down to them or entice people to bow down to them. | ||
| And I think that is the biggest concern I have long run because you already see it. | ||
| It starts with the big dreamers and the kind of sci-fi fantasists who envision an AI that can solve every problem, that can answer every question, that can satisfy every desire. | ||
| And that belief, that faith is being manifested. | ||
| The AIs that they have right now are good enough that, let's just say, most dopes would be willing to say it's smarter than they are, or at least that it's the greatest mentor they've ever had. | ||
| And as those systems become more sophisticated, you're going to get smarter and smarter and more and more capable people that either feel that way or they sell people on the idea that it is that way. | ||
| So that spiritual element, that is what really concerns me. | ||
| And even those in the kind of conservative religious sphere who say, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We can program this to be holy. | ||
| We can program the AI to proselytize people and to teach people about Jesus. | ||
| The AI will never be a human example like someone who's actually filled with the Holy Spirit. | ||
| And the AI is always going to be this kind of soulless mirror to that image of God. | ||
| So, yeah, the spiritual element is probably the most unsettling. | ||
| On a practical level, I get the desire for wealth, algorithmic mammon, and I get the desire to stay ahead militarily of our geopolitical rivals. | ||
| But it's going to have to be counterbalanced with a strong spiritual core because this is playing with fire on a cosmic level. | ||
| No, this gets back to the whole Davos. | ||
| This is the manifestation of the spiritual war. | ||
| Look, we're going to keep you up to speed on the geopolitical, the military, the financial and economic, the stock market, all the financial aspects of this, all the military aspects of this, the geopolitical aspects of this, the societal aspects. | ||
| But you talk about people coming to you, it's a spiritual war. | ||
| This is where the spiritual war is. | ||
| This is the manifestation of it. | ||
| Of all of it. | ||
| And you can see with the arrogance, and this is why I'm so against the apartheid state of Silicon Valley. | ||
| The apartheid state was made as a deal. | ||
| It was made as a conscious deal. | ||
| Now think about that for a second. | ||
| The Obama administration was the most progressive, quote-unquote, in American history. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| On the two things that really matter, money and power, They were the most reactionary in American history. | ||
| How do I say that? | ||
| Easily. | ||
| The facts back me up. | ||
| Their solution to the 2008, and he did not create the 2008 financial collapse, had nothing to do with it. | ||
| He had these community groups, forget that, that was minor, marginal. | ||
| But Obama's solution, because he's a constitutional lawyer and didn't know much better, and he was... | ||
| He was bought and paid for by the sociopathic overlords on Wall Street. | ||
| Tim Geithner and those guys, the solution, the bailout of the wealthy, the bailout of the system and the concentration of wealth, the greatest we've ever had, is reactionary, not progressive. | ||
| That's reactionary. | ||
| The progressive is all Rachel Madden and these people down in the foreground showing you the pro wrestling. | ||
| On the second part, that's the money. | ||
| On the second part, the power. | ||
| They essentially made a deal. | ||
| Remember, they came to San Francisco Airport and had that meeting in that conference room early on where Zuckerberg and these guys showed them the power of Facebook to allow him to beat Hillary Clinton and then to beat the Republicans. | ||
| The Faustian bargain made at San Francisco Airport. | ||
| That Faustian bargain is the following, is that we will allow you an apartheid state to become an apartheid state or actually... | ||
| Evolve more rapidly as apartheid state because we're going to give you monopolistic power. | ||
| We're not going to have the FTC after you. | ||
| We're not going to have the SEC after you. | ||
| We're not going to have the Justice Department after you, the Antitrust Department. | ||
| We're going to allow you to build monopolies. | ||
| Facebook, Google, monopolistic power. | ||
| So it's not about profits. | ||
| It's about rent-seeking. | ||
| We're going to allow you to become rent-seekers. | ||
| And you're going to call your own shots on all of it. | ||
| And you're not going to have to have any Hispanics, any blacks, any working class whites, nobody. | ||
| You get to pick it. | ||
| In fact, if you want to pick slave labor from South Asia and treat them like indentured servants, go for it. | ||
| Because we'll game the system, make sure you get all the visas you need. | ||
| That trade-off was, you're going to be the most powerful, you're going to deliver us ultimate technological power in the United States. | ||
| And what happened at the same time, because they're letting the Chinese Communist Party and stealing what they can, educating and going back, it looks like now that part of the bargain wasn't accomplished. | ||
| But the most progressive in history set up the most reactionary state in history. | ||
| The sociopathic overlords of Wall Street and the oligarchs in Silicon Valley. | ||
| This is in essence... | ||
| What the MAGA movement is fighting in response to, of both the financial collapse of 2008, and also, as it evolved, the ability to destroy Trump and the MAGA movement by absolute technological dominance of social media means of communications. | ||
| That, in essence, is the story of our age, our era, politically. | ||
| That is why you are so powerful. | ||
| That's why you're so hated. | ||
| That's why they must destroy you. | ||
| They must destroy Trump because he's the leader. | ||
| And all the grundoons around him, the second tier, the Mike Flins, the Steve Banner, they must be destroyed also. | ||
| But ultimately, they have to control and suppress and ultimately destroy you when you're no longer economically necessary as a little production unit until you've worn out your welcome, of which your children and grandchildren will wear out their welcome quite quickly with this crowd. | ||
| That, folks, is the fight. | ||
| And that's why we can't lose. | ||
| To lose is to lose it all. | ||
| To lose is to let down everything that the Judeo-Christian West stands for. | ||
| here and now, in this place and time. | ||
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| Okay, much more of all this. | ||
| Press the pregame for President Trump's talk tonight to the conference, and of course the one reconciliation versus two. | ||
| What I love about the show and we get from the sublime to the less sublime. | ||
| We'll get you down and dirty with the receipts and the kind of the grunt work and the grit that you got to do to move American politics but also hopefully give you enough big picture that you can see where we're trying to head on all this. | ||
| So Lee's going to be back at 5. This Texas thing is very disturbing because I would argue respectfully that Sora spent hundreds of millions of dollars to turn Texas blue. | ||
| Remember that whole thing? | ||
| We fought for years. | ||
| And Trump won by 14 points. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| You could argue more than even Florida and Ohio, the other two great states in the MAGA movement, that you could argue that Texas is the railhead of MAGA. And you can't figure out why basically the Bush apparatus with a bunch of Democrats, old boy Democrats, control the statehouse. | ||
| And so we're going to get into that and what has to be done to counter that. | ||
| Because the Bush apparatus is still an apparatus that does not put American citizens first. | ||
| Puts their own money and profits first. | ||
| We're going to get into all this. | ||
| Please make CPAC. It's 76 bucks. | ||
| And I think Mo and Grace are going to try to work with our people and figure out where you can get hotel accommodations around there very inexpensively. | ||
| We'll try to make this as cheap as possible. | ||
| And we will have full-spectrum dominance there to make sure we're broadcasting four hours a day. | ||
| We're going to do a Force Multiplier Academy. | ||
| If you show that you've got a CPAC ticket for $76, you get in there. | ||
| Mo, talk to us about it. | ||
| We're going to do Force Multiplier. | ||
| We're there for... | ||
| Then all the days of CPAC, live coverage everywhere. | ||
| We'll have our speakers, breakout sessions, people, books, films, everything. | ||
| This will be a great kickoff to 2025, ma'am. | ||
| Also, in order to get your CPAC ticket, go to cpac.org slash warroom and you get the discounted ticket just exclusive for the War Room Posse and it's $76. | ||
| It's normally $95. | ||
| War Room Posse members get it for $76. | ||
| In order to get into the Force Multiplier Academy, you must have a proof of a CPAC ticket. | ||
| The Force Multiplier Academy will be from 12 p.m. | ||
| to 5 p.m. | ||
| on Wednesday, February 19th at the Gaylord National Harbor. | ||
| And we will have an update on the exact room this week. | ||
| For the Force Multiplier Academy last year, we had a lot of great speakers. | ||
| So if you missed the one last year at CPAC and also the one in Vegas, I highly encourage you to attend this year's Force Multiplier Academy and also CPAC. There will be a lot of great speakers at CPAC, and War Room will be there. | ||
| You'll get to meet the War Room team. | ||
| You've got to be at CPAC. You know how I hang over there. | ||
| We're going to meet everybody. | ||
| I'll hear all your concerns, everything you're working on. | ||
| Also, we're going to try to... | ||
| We've got a huge set with Real America's Voice. | ||
| Real America's Voice is going to be one of the biggest, if not the biggest, media company there. | ||
| We'll be all the... | ||
| You know, Pasovic will be there. | ||
| Everybody will be there. | ||
| John Solomon, Amanda Head. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| Natalie Winters obviously with us. | ||
| The entire crew of War Room. | ||
| In addition, I'm going to try to work it out that we actually do the show. | ||
| It won't be the beautiful set because that won't be totally constructed yet, I don't believe. | ||
| We're going to try to do a simpler version of the show. | ||
| I haven't totally worked this out. | ||
| From 10 o'clock in the morning till noon and then roll right into Force Multiply Academy. | ||
| So you get to be a live audience. | ||
| If we can figure it out, and we're going to do efforts to figure it out. | ||
| I want to see everybody back there. | ||
| 76 bucks. | ||
| There's hotel rooms in the greater area that are not that expensive. | ||
| We're trying to make this, and the CPAC people are trying to make this as accessible as possible. | ||
| And they're going to have huge announcements who's going to come. | ||
| Huge announcements later. | ||
| So let's get to it. | ||
| Mo, one more time. | ||
| And people, by the way, should be getting the emails. | ||
| You should be getting the command briefs. | ||
| We've got so much content that's free. | ||
| And share the content. | ||
| Everybody comes up to me at these things. | ||
| What can we do to assist War Room? | ||
| All you have to do is two things. | ||
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| Push the content out. | ||
| Sign up for everything we've got that's all free. | ||
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| Just listen to and go to the sites of our sponsors. | ||
| We select these sponsors specifically so they give you total information and they build a relationship with you. | ||
| It's your decision on the product. | ||
| We set it up, but just go check out the sponsors and share the content. | ||
| That's kind of the request that we make of the audience to go for it. | ||
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| One more time, Mo, where do they go? | ||
| So in order to get your ticket for CPAC, you go to cpac.org slash war room. | ||
| You must get your ticket for CPAC. And then go to pp.events slash wfma to get signed up for the Force Multiplier Academy on Wednesday, 19 February. | ||
| You don't want to miss either one of those. | ||
| Thank you, honey. | ||
| Got a lot more to talk to you. | ||
| I'll grab you and your nephew afterwards. | ||
| Got a lot to go through. | ||
| Mo Bannon. | ||
| Driving the action. | ||
| Thank you, man. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Mike Lindell. | ||
| We're going to see everybody at CPAC, including the Mike Lindell. | ||
| Mike Lindell, I feel like a flannel sheet, a cross, a pillow. | ||
| You tell me, what am I getting today? | ||
| This is it, everybody. | ||
| It's the mega sale. | ||
| You guys have loved this. | ||
| This has been huge. | ||
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| Once they're gone, they're gone. | ||
| Go to the website, go to MyPillow.com, go down to see Steve, and you're going to see all these other War Room specials, including that clearance event. | ||
| I'm going to keep that up there. | ||
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| That was the talk, Steve, of the weekend was how much the War Room Posse has taken, went after this mega special. | ||
| I think they thought it was a mega MAGA instead of a MEGA. It's either one, everybody. | ||
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| Go back to work. | ||
| Go back to the factory. | ||
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| The masterpiece takes us out. | ||
| Charlie Kirk is next. |
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