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Jan. 15, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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WarRoom Battleground EP 686: The Ones Left Behind; Building The External Revenue Service
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steve bannon
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ben bergquam
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
Mega Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
It's Tuesday of 14 January in the year of our Lord, 2025.
Today was the opening salvo, kind of what I call the preamble for Days of Thunder of Does Denver have that yet?
Do we have the logo for Days of Thunder?
If Grace can put that up on social media, I think Mo's are representing us at this dinner.
I want to put that up.
If we don't have it, we'll get it for later.
I want everybody to push this out.
Starting next week, starting on...
Inauguration Day in the afternoon.
President Trump's going to get to work, and I think it's going to really shock people.
Everything that's going to get pushed out here is going to be absolutely amazing, amazing, amazing.
And we're going to be a front row seat to it.
Make sure that you guys are going to be active participants because you're going to be doing all your war room work to push things out.
This week, we've got our people's back.
If you have not called your senator at 202-224-3121.
Make sure you do it today.
Maybe you do it tomorrow morning about support of Pete Hexas.
Pete Hexas was nothing but magnificent in what he did today, and it was quite intense, really, really, actually quite brutal.
But I think they showed the unhinged nature, and Pete just keeping his cool, being, matter of fact, and showing that warrior ethos that we all admire out of him, even General Barry McCaffrey.
And a couple other people on MSNBC, McCaffrey's a renowned hater, said that, look, hey, this guy's going to get confirmed or approved by the Armed Services Committee.
Then he's going to get confirmed by the entire Senate, I think, with every Democrat voting against him, except maybe, I don't know, Fetterman or somebody like that.
Do we have Ben Berkholm?
Okay, so there's been this huge thing with L.A. It looks like there's some other fires today.
The winds are kicking up.
We're going to get some coverage of that here in the second hour.
But Ben Berquam, Ben, where are you?
What you're seeing is heart-rendering because it's related to MAGA, and clearly the Biden regime has purposely forgotten these people.
Tell me about it.
ben bergquam
Yeah, we're almost four months into this, Steve.
We're up here in North Carolina.
It's outside of Waynesville.
And I'm here with, it's called Haven on the Hill, with my new friend, James Lunsford.
I've got the county commissioner here, Terry Ramey, and some folks behind me.
And I'm just going to, well, I'll turn the camera, but we've got some drone footage of this.
You shot a little earlier.
There are campers all over this community here that...
We're brought in.
This is James' family property.
And they've got about 100 people living out here now because basically they've been abandoned by Joe Biden, the Democrats, FEMA. I want to get James in on this.
James, you're doing this.
It's just truly incredible.
And the fact that you have to do it, honestly, thank God you're doing it.
But the fact that you have to do it is just, as an American citizen, what's your message?
unidentified
It's sad that the people have to do it.
I mean, I thought that's why we had somebody to help us for, and they don't help.
It's just mind-blowing.
ben bergquam
We're four months into this, and by the way, Steve, James has a headset as well.
steve bannon
Hold it.
ben bergquam
Four months into this.
steve bannon
Hey, James.
ben bergquam
Go ahead, Steve.
Yeah, go ahead.
steve bannon
Ben, hang on.
James, just start at the beginning.
Walk our audience exactly what the problem is.
What happened?
Where was the relief?
We're four months into this, and it looks like it happened, I don't know, a couple of days ago.
But I want to, in your voice, tell us exactly what went on.
Just take your time.
unidentified
Well, Steve, it started, and, I mean, they got hotel vouchers from FEMA, and FEMA was giving them, I think it was $750 a month.
Like, that would suffice them.
And basically other than that, just forgot them.
So then when the hotel vouchers started ending everything, some other organizations and churches reached out to me and said, what can we do to help?
And this is what we've come up with.
And it's been all donation.
It's not had anything to do with the government, even though we had one that does work with us.
And he's fought a constant battle to keep working with us.
ben bergquam
And that's the guy standing right next to us here.
unidentified
And he stuck with me through the whole thing.
But me and him stuck together for over 50 years, so I guess that was nothing new.
They get no help.
I mean, they get no help.
I mean, they come up here with FEMA, and they say they knock on doors, and then the people come and say, well, where were those FEMA people today?
So I don't understand.
I mean, it's too much red tape, I guess, but we just eliminated the red tape.
I said I'll ask for forgiveness before I ask for permission, and I did it.
ben bergquam
And Steve, I just came from Asheville.
We're going to be releasing some of this video.
Some of the stuff you're seeing on the screen is breaking footage.
This was today, this afternoon.
I went down there.
And Asheville, Democrat City, it honestly, they're rebuilding Ukraine faster than they're rebuilding parts of North Carolina and Tennessee and Georgia that have been affected by this hurricane.
It's beyond words.
What's happening out here?
And you have a few of these guys, like Terry Ramey, commissioner, that's actually willing to stand up and go on camera and tell the truth about it.
It's absolutely disgusting, Steve.
steve bannon
For the guys, is FEMA not responsive to anyone in the community?
Have they just abandoned the community?
Do they have local representatives?
Because if you look out in California, you've got FEMA wall-to-wall.
So I'm kind of shocked that there's no representation there to interface with you guys and to hear what you guys need.
unidentified
There's not been.
I mean, I can't speak for Terry, but I've not seen that many FEMA people, whether when they say, oh, we'll send two or three people to come and interview the people and update their applications.
But I've not seen the big running around everywhere in the FEMA jackets like you would see them everywhere, and I'm not.
I've not even seen any of the vehicles.
ben bergquam
Can I ask the folks that are standing in the back there, any of you guys feel like the response from FEMA has been adequate, yes or no?
unidentified
Not really.
No, not at all.
ben bergquam
No, the answer is no.
And Terry, if I can get you in on here, Terry's the county commissioner here in Haywood.
unidentified
Right after the starting of the storm, right after the storm just happened, we saw a lot of FEMA people around, and they've had a FEMA representative here, and they've been taking a lot of applications and stuff, but as far as they put out a survey to find property to put FEMA trailers on, as of Monday's commissioner meeting, we had five.
Trailers is all that's been set up.
ben bergquam
In four months, five trailers.
unidentified
Five trailers.
But all these other trailers, we've got a ton of trailers in here, but they've been donated by people across the country, and they've really stepped up and helped us, the people have.
FEMA, they've took a lot of application stuff, and they're working on a lot of different stuff.
Like everything else, it takes forever.
I don't know how long it'll start happening.
Like you say, it's been four months now, nearly.
steve bannon
Ben, ask Terry, ask the guys, but also the crowd.
I'd like to have two separate answers.
Do they believe that this is because this is MAGA country, that there's a huge tendency out there to support MAGA and to vote for President Trump?
Do they think there's politics and this is a little bit of payback from the Biden regime?
ben bergquam
So the questions to these guys, but also to you, do you think the reason this is happening, is this payback because this is such strong MAGA country, President Trump country, do you think this was political?
Or what do you think the reason why this response has been so slow?
I'm going to start with you guys.
Anyone else that wants to jump in?
unidentified
I think they just don't care, because...
I mean, we're a small area, and the locals didn't ask for help soon enough, so the state didn't ask for help soon enough.
But, yeah, there's probably some slap in the face, too.
Well, the county was asked to put out some fillers for some property, you know, to put these FEMA trailers on.
But what happened is we turned in a lot of names and a lot of property, but they've never got back to these people.
FEMA's never even called them back.
ben bergquam
We're also hearing, Steve, that there's a push to buy up the property.
There's some big-name companies out there, corporations out there, coming and buying property for pennies on the dollar.
Are you guys hearing any of that for the mining rights, the minerals, any of that stuff, too?
unidentified
I haven't heard much of that in Haywood yet.
I've heard rumors of it, like around Spruce Pine and places like that.
ben bergquam
Anything else?
Anyone else want to jump in?
It just doesn't make sense to me.
How could this be for...
Come up here, sir.
Anyone else want to jump in?
unidentified
Well, honestly, when you're sending all of our money...
Overseas to Ukraine, which was a wasteless war.
I mean, trillions of dollars would do a lot here.
ben bergquam
Anyone else?
unidentified
They actually have found lithium up through where the flood zone is.
I mean, you could take it as a conspiracy theory if you want to or what, but...
That is a fact that they do have lithium being mined that is fixing to be...
They're buying money, like you said, pennies on the dollar for the land, but there's actually lithium supposed to be under it.
ben bergquam
Anything on the political side of it?
Do you think it was political or just think what Terry said, they just don't care?
unidentified
No, I think Donald Trump's going to fix everything.
ben bergquam
Say that again.
unidentified
I think Donald Trump is going to fix everything.
You know, California...
Caught on fire, yeah.
Everything that...
I believe I'm a great believer in God, Jesus Christ, and I think that things happen for a reason, so I probably shouldn't speak on that.
I'm not going to.
Steve?
steve bannon
I want to go back to the lithium.
The people, has it been a lack of information put forward by FEMA and other authorities that lead people to believe that it could be, I don't know, some conspiracy to make sure the property is sold at kind of below market value?
Are people, have FEMA and other government officials been out there and explained to people exactly what's going on?
Is that one of the problems that people are coming up with their own theories of what's happening?
unidentified
I think they come up with their theories, but I don't think FEMA explains anything to them.
I mean, and it just gives them too much time to think of, to try to make up reasons for herself, because they've got plenty of time to think right now while they're trying to rebuild their lives.
ben bergquam
You wanted to jump in here, ma'am?
I just...
unidentified
We had talked about several things early on, and I had said at some point we'd have the opportunity to ask this question.
And you asked, did we think it was political, or they just didn't care?
And I think they just didn't care.
And I can tell you, and James knows, I did 1821 hours on my phone.
I've worn fingerprints.
You can tell the people.
It's literally, yeah.
And here, on day four, when we needed...
Chewable, non-drowsy Benadryl.
1,000 units ASAP at 118 in the morning.
Who had the bat phone to the manufacturer of Benadryl?
Did that guy sleep good that night?
Because I didn't, and neither did about 60 other people hunting down Benadryl for our people who were getting eat up.
Who had the bat phone for all the semi-trucks?
or football and you've got semi-trailers out there feeding hundreds of people.
Where were they?
Where were the refrigeration trucks?
Well, Where were...
There's paramount assets that we put out for people who spend thousands of dollars on tickets for entertainment.
Thousands of people in Appalachia that are suffering.
Who has the back phone?
There was no Donald Trump.
There was no, you know, current president.
There was really nobody.
There were all of us, you know, looping together, saying we need nanosteds.
We need nanohospitals.
We need nanoclinics.
We need 53 body sleds on day 11 at 3.30 in the morning via Facebook Messenger.
Who had the back phone?
Does that make sense?
Nobody from either side.
Why were we procuring these things for our people?
I actually was on leaving Florida for a few weeks and got caught in the, you know, Milton coming across and I couldn't come home.
And I got to talk to people over a Starlink like James and some other friends.
I've got people down in Hendersonville.
I've got, and James will tell you this, I've got people, you know, in Swannanoa and Burnsville and Irwin, Tennessee.
We're talking 20 counties of people, just residents, that are not only traumatized and in full loss, but they don't...
James and I sat for two hours and talked yesterday.
And I asked him, of this park, how many people in this encampment are self-sufficient?
And he said, maybe half.
Okay.
ben bergquam
These are the good ones.
unidentified
Maybe half.
ben bergquam
I'm saying these are the ones that are living alright.
unidentified
Right.
ben bergquam
There's still people in tents.
There's still people in tents, Steve.
And cars.
unidentified
Thousands of...
Thousands of hot tents.
ben bergquam
Go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
Jump in, Steve.
unidentified
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, I can't hear that feed.
steve bannon
No, no.
I want to ask her.
President Trump becomes president of the United States next Monday, right?
He then will have power.
They're begging for him to come out to California.
One, would you like him to come to that part of North Carolina immediately?
And number two...
What do you ask, what should President Trump or the people around him, what's their action plan for you guys?
What is the highest priority, the things you need now?
ben bergquam
So President Trump's taken over on the 20th.
What's your message to him?
Do you want him coming out here?
And what is the action plan?
What do you guys need immediately?
unidentified
We would love to see him come out here.
I'm actually from Palm Beach County, Florida, which is a cuss word up here.
But he knows Palm Beach County, Florida very well because one of his haciendas is there.
So we would love to see him and his people in his coveralls.
There's no need for suits.
Come in your britches, your work britches.
We need propane.
We need housing.
We need land to put housing on.
I mean, we're going to be a start-over community.
I can tell you that we probably could use no less, Terry, several counties wide than, what, 10, 20,000 tiny homes.
10 or 20,000.
And we're putting people in 12 by 16 units and saying, okay, I mean, you know, when you open the door to go pee in the middle of the night and you let all your heat out, you've got to start the whole heating process over again?
Because you just let all the heat out because you had to pee.
Or you can poop in a bucket.
Hey, you can poop in a bucket!
And then they can say we helped.
It's awful.
It's just awful.
And yes, yes, whoever takes over, whoever is in charge, whoever holds the bat phone, I'd love to talk to that person.
We've got tough questions.
Really tough questions.
Where's the bat phone?
Who's getting the good night's sleep?
Because we're not.
Not for over 100 days.
ben bergquam
Not for over 100 days.
steve bannon
Can we get some other input from other folks on what they think has to happen?
ben bergquam
Anyone else want to jump in?
Come up here.
We've got to see you.
unidentified
James is an amazing man.
If it weren't for him, I'd be homeless right now.
I'd be out in this cold and don't know where I'd be without him.
SOL, you know.
But I've been in appeal with FEMA for 60-something days now.
And not hearing a word from them.
Not hearing a word.
My TSA ran out on January 10th.
And if it weren't for this man, I don't know where I'd be.
I mean, he's blessed me and my family.
ben bergquam
And you know what's incredible about this, Steve?
As you go around, there's little communities like this setting up where the people have come together.
This is the, you know, this is Haven on the Hill here.
But it's like this.
We were just up in Irwin, Tennessee.
And you've got a community up there that's coming together.
And it's the people coming together because the government has failed them.
Does anyone disagree with that?
unidentified
No.
Not at all.
Not at all.
No, I don't disagree with that.
It's a fact.
ben bergquam
Anyone else want to jump in, sir?
You want to jump in?
unidentified
This gentleman is who put us on the map.
This is Mr. Adam Pope who did the song that got us recognition.
I don't know about putting them on the map.
They were already here and his man's been...
This man's been doing great things, and I just got empowered by some people who wanted to bless people in the mountains, and I live around Nashville, Tennessee, and so I drove over here and ended up on this hill, met him, and just wrote a song, and kind of from there we became buds, and I keep having people give me stuff that just, I'm not a 501c3 or nothing, just people keep giving me stuff to bring to the mountains.
So I keep coming from Nashville bringing stuff, and I'm sort of a middleman between people blessing other people, and I just get to see God do great things in the midst of all this sad stuff.
And my wife and I, we homeschool, and we're trying to teach self-reliance, relying on the Lord, community, all that stuff, and yet I see this community right here doing that, so it's very inspiring.
ben bergquam
What's the name of that song?
unidentified
Haven on the Hill.
It's the name of the hill.
It's the name of the community.
So, you know, I'm not worried about the song as much as just these guys shining the light on them, and that's what you're doing.
So thanks for coming up here.
I was up here just picking up some tanks because a man told me he would fill their propane tanks.
So I came to grab some, and James yanked me into this.
But anyway, I can't speak about anything that they've gone through because they're the ones really going through it.
ben bergquam
What do you guys need, like you said?
Not next week.
I know President Trump's taking over.
What do you guys need now?
unidentified
Them to step up and help these people.
Funding.
Funding.
We can build.
We can build.
We can buy.
We can coordinate.
We can network.
We need money.
And it seems like if we ask for propane, we're okay.
But if we ask for cash...
We're bad.
We're bad.
You know, we need funding.
You need funding.
Gravel.
Look at it.
They're on the lead right now.
Gravel.
We need gravel.
The people that's here.
ben bergquam
Say that again.
unidentified
One thing great about the people that are here, every one of us has a skill.
If we have the money, we can come out of this.
And I'm talking about lightning fast.
Well, the thing is that they don't want to come here.
ben bergquam
We've got to get you on camera and on the mic.
unidentified
If they don't want to come up here and help and build, well, then send the building material up here because there's plenty of people up here that know how to build.
We're...
Come on.
We all have skills.
Me and this man right here, tooth and nail, fought for this land.
We vets.
And we can...
ben bergquam
Hang on, hang on.
I've got to get you in the shot.
Come closer.
unidentified
We can still do what we did.
We can still do what we did.
I said, me and this man right here.
We're vets.
We fought for this.
All this stuff right here.
We've done this.
This is what we fought for.
And people take advantage of it.
And they don't know what they do.
They don't.
But what I'm getting at is he has skills, I have skills.
She has skills.
If we come together with the proper planning and proper money, we can come right out of this.
Right out of it.
You understand what I'm saying?
ben bergquam
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
It's breaking my heart, Steve.
I mean, it's like, this is America.
This is America.
What the hell?
unidentified
And Steve, one more thing.
I mean, they were talking about the funding.
I had another organization reach out to me today that has the Amish building tiny homes, and she said, James, I need help.
I don't know what I can do.
She said, we've got a $200,000 bill for material, and we don't know how we're going to pay it.
Because we built the homes, the Amish built them, we put families in them.
But now I'm getting invoices for nearly a quarter of a million dollars worth of material.
What can we do to help?
I said, well, hopefully I'll be talking to somebody shortly that'll be able to.
steve bannon
Hey, Ben.
ben bergquam
Hang on one second.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, Steve.
steve bannon
Ben, I'll call you to talk to the folks right after the show's over.
It'll be about another 35 minutes, and we'll figure something out.
But is it James?
Where do people, because the war room posse's blowing up in the chat room, where do people go if they want to help immediately?
Who do they talk to?
What do they contact?
Is there a website or is it social media?
unidentified
I've actually got a website for that organization that was building the tiny homes.
I had her to send it to me.
For ours, ours is Haven on the Hill.
It's on the Facebook page, and I think you already shared the Zelle.
ben bergquam
Yeah, they've got a Zelle.
They've got a bunch of different ways you can give, but you just go to the Facebook page, Haven on the Hill, look for this guy.
unidentified
And that's where it goes.
And it goes straight into the bank.
And then it goes to the people.
steve bannon
Ben, we're going to have Grace put that up on social media, Haven on the Hill.
I'll call you as soon as the show over.
We'll talk to the people and we'll figure something out, okay?
unidentified
I really feel like it.
ben bergquam
Roger that.
Thank you, sir.
steve bannon
Folks, thank you very much.
We'll get back to you.
I mean, right there you see, is the American citizen's interest put first?
That's the backbone of the country.
I realize, guys, in Silicon Valley, the broligarchs don't want to admit that, but that's the backbone.
That's the grit of this country right there.
And that is, you see, all this stuff with the illegal aliens, billions of dollars spent to make sure everybody's clothed, everybody's got everything.
You look at Ukraine.
He shipped, I don't know, how many billions of dollars?
How much has he shipped over there?
This is Biden, the Biden regime.
There's nothing but bribes to keep those guys quiet, given everything that the Ukraine, when you pull that scab off and the pus comes out, it's going to take billions of dollars, billions of dollars, billions of dollars here, billions of dollars there.
This tragedy, and it's a biblical-level tragedy, Old Testament, in California, but you heard Josh Pettit yesterday.
You see, this is exacerbated.
A natural tragedy exacerbated by government rules, regulations, and malfeasance, and criminal negligence.
They had a, I think, a spokesman for Gavin Newsom today was trash-talking President Trump.
I think his name's Izzy.
They said, Izzy, just learn this concept, criminal negligence, and you should tell your boss, preserve your documents, because it's going to be a massive investigation.
And I also tell the people in California, The money's going to come with more than just strings.
We can't allow this.
We can't allow the woke nature of how you govern yourselves to make sure that we have to go in for a bailout, a huge bailout of the insurance industry, a huge bailout of all the damage there, and yes, it's absolutely horrible, but we did have a guy on here in the videotape yesterday who just put a fire hose on his house.
When everybody else was told to leave, everybody left, and the firemen didn't show up.
So there's a lot of things that have to go through in Southern California, but you can't abandon the people of Tennessee.
You can't abandon them in Western North Carolina.
You can't abandon them in Georgia.
That's that part of the country, Appalachia, that has delivered so much for this country, has provided so many men and women, but particularly men, have the warrior ethos and have fought for this country.
Look right there.
Totally abandoned.
Totally and completely abandoned.
Those are American citizens.
That ain't folks in Ukraine.
That's not folks in the Middle East.
That's not in the South China Sea.
Those are American citizens.
The backbone of this country, the grit and determination of this country, right there.
Completely and totally abandoned and treated like garbage.
Like disposable trash.
Until we get that sorted, this country's not going to make any real progress.
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
Ironically, we're playing John Kahn's American Heart.
John Kahn, who lost his house in the Palisades.
Short commercial break.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
I also want to destroy the myth of unilateral free trade and how that benefits our nation.
Americans have been brainwashed by academics like Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell, who all—I agree with some stuff they say, but they support unilateral free trade, meaning we tariff— We do not tariff.
America does not tariff, while other nations tariff us at 100%, 150%.
And that makes no sense.
And on the note of unilateral free trade, I want to ask about the moral component.
Our supply chain is permeated with goods made by forced labor, slave labor, and yet there's no moral component to stop that and manufacture in America and have the dollar that people spend stay within the American ecosystem and help your neighbor give them a job and stay within America and build our country up.
Beyond the—you know, national security is threatened when a nation does not produce its own goods.
An independent nation is only independent if it can produce its own goods.
And 80 percent of global trade is based on goods, not services.
steve bannon
One of the drivers I would love to see in the executive board is to set up an external revenue service that we wouldn't just look at tariffs, because tariffs paid for everything up until the early 20th century.
But you wouldn't just look at tariffs, you'd look at everything about how you can charge fees, essentially, whether that's on investment, whether that's on other things of access to this country.
America's behind the golden door.
unidentified
Okay?
steve bannon
And this market's the most robust, lucrative market in the world.
And we shouldn't just let people have access.
We shouldn't let foreigners have access to this market and to the American people and American citizens for free.
So I think I would love to see something that set up an external revenue service in Treasury that eventually took the burden off people on internal revenue services.
There's no reason the American people, American corporations, even the donor class has to pay for everything.
And I think we have to rethink that.
Okay, breaking news.
Joni Ernst has just told a radio station in Iowa that she is going to support the nomination of Pete Hegseth.
Joni Ernst, Army colonel also, has just announced that she is going to support the nomination of Pete Hegseth.
That's how great a job Pete did today.
Also, for this audience particularly that are huge fans of Joe Kent, there's been a scoop, there's been a leak that Joe Kent is being looked at as the leading contender to the head, the National Counterterrorism Center, which is a huge job over at DHS. A huge job for Joe Kent.
So Joe Kent's on the, it looks like, the lead to take that over.
Breaking news.
John Gardner, pretty quick.
President Trump came out today.
Support your idea.
of an external revenue service to counter the IRS. Walk through, when you mean external revenue, I want you to talk about how the country was financed up to the financial crisis that was driven by the San Francisco earthquake and the Great Fire.
They had a panic a couple years later.
Then they had to sort things out.
They came up with a Federal Reserve and a national income tax on everybody.
And the mindset shifted from external to internal.
Walk me through how America was financed before then and why you think that we can now look for external revenue sources to start to fund our government and to close these deficits, sir.
unidentified
Thanks for having me on, Steve.
For the first 140 years of America's existence, America was built solely with tariffs and excise tax.
steve bannon
Okay, John, we're going to have to reboot you, brother.
It can't pick him up.
We've got to make sure it's a strong signal, too, because we can't do that again.
John's on the road, joins us.
Maybe we'll get him tomorrow on Skype.
John Gardner, who's written this amazing book about American manufacturing.
He believes a revolution in this country along the lines of small manufacturing can lead to a renaissance and can make American-made products.
We'll hopefully get to John tomorrow maybe and break it all down.
I want to go back to what you just saw in North Carolina.
Because this, and there's some, there's an article, I think Ben's been put it up about the United Nations and giving to these NGOs.
Remember, we financed the United Nations basically, right?
I think we put up still 70% of the money or some huge amount of the money.
We should cut it down to zero.
That compact on global migration.
That Oscar Blue Ramirez continues to say that, hey, on the first day, on the very first day, it should be dropped.
It should be absolutely dropped.
We should get out of that by a stroke of a pen.
And he's been arguing for that for a long time.
They got a huge article today about the billions of dollars that's going from the U.N. with our money to these NGOs to continue to support the illegal invasion of our country.
These people are not going to back off.
They're not going to stop.
If you think that's going to happen, you are sorely mistaken.
And that's why I said the other day, The Guardian, I did an interview with them about this new cardinal.
We'll try it one more time, okay?
Okay, we'll try it one more time.
This new cardinal in Washington who's basically going to confront President Trump about the deportations.
That's why Francis...
Pope Francis, the fake pope in Rome, installed this guy because he's adamantly an open borders guy.
He's against deportations.
He's going to be there to kind of confront President Trump for the very first day.
Remember, the order of succession that the Biden regime put out, they're supposed to take this interim before President Trump's people are in the saddle, has, I think, is the number two person supposed to take over in the Justice Department is the U.S. attorney in Arizona.
Who's essentially an open borders guy.
So everything that they're doing, okay, everything they're doing, no matter what aspect of this it is, it's to confront and thwart President Trump's efforts.
And you're going to see it more here, but you go back to where they really should be spending money.
I mean, it's shocking to me, and I know it is to this audience.
To think that, what, I don't know, a couple of months after this situation with the hurricane and this massive amount of kind of the biblical levels of rain that Georgia and the hills and hollows of western North Carolina got around Asheville and other places that destroyed so much of that beautiful part of the country, to know that there are people there tonight freezing, and if it wasn't for a couple of hardy individuals who kind of took leadership, they'd be left out there with nothing.
Those are American citizens.
And so, yes, what's happened in Southern California is horrible.
I know so many people have lost their homes.
I've owned property in Southern California since the late 1980s, early 1990s.
And it's just unacceptable that American citizens, with all the focus on Ukraine and all the focus still with billions of dollars going to illegal alien invaders and the NGOs that let them in, all the billions of dollars, and they're talking, I don't know, $100 billion?
The bailout of the Los Angeles area.
And the Los Angeles area, something clearly has to be done.
Now, I don't know why it has to be a federal bailout, but somehow we're going to have to have some participation.
But then you see in Appalachia right there, they're completely forgotten.
And if Ben Berkholm hadn't gone out there with his camera and done some great reporting, he's actually been—I just talked to him in the break.
He's actually doing some interviews right now.
Do I have John Gardner again?
We're going to try it one more time.
Okay, John, let's try it one more time, see if the signal's better.
If not, we'll get you tomorrow morning.
But talk to me.
When you say external revenues, what are you talking about?
unidentified
The external revenue service that our founding fathers created that funded America for 140 years has been abandoned and was abandoned.
and Internal Revenue Service empowered, and that targeted our citizens.
A Coalition for Prosperous America study showed that with a global tariff of 15 percent, low 15 percent, the U.S. Treasury could easily replace the $461 billion the bottom 90 percent of income taxpayers pay.
And you kind of just think about the economic boom that would happen if 90 percent of Americans did not pay income tax.
I mean, and that dollar would be then directed back into our economy.
And hopefully pay American manufacturers to create more high-wage, middle-class jobs.
You know, we kind of had, since 1994, America has tariffed at an average rate of 3.4 percent.
And the results of that are clear.
In 2015, the American census had, for the first time on record, middle-income Americans did not make up the majority of Americans, for the first time on record.
And, you know, President Trump knows tariff is not a four-letter word.
It's not a bad word.
Americans have been conditioned by free traders and globalists to kind of have this knee-jerk reaction that tariffs are bad.
But if you want to avoid the tariff, you'll buy an American-made company.
And President Trump knows that those dollars can be directed back into rebuilding America.
And, you know, he's following history and reestablishing what gave America the civil manufacturing might.
To turn to military manufacturing when we needed to during World War II and create the world's greatest middle class in the history of the world, which to me is really the American dream.
The middle class, ascension to the middle class is the American dream.
And so as we build our manufacturing industry and protect it with tariffs, we will help more people ascend to the American dream.
steve bannon
John Gardner, this is the vision that Alexander Hamilton with the American plan, Henry Clay, many people had this.
And there's a reason that our economy was so robust in the 19th century.
I mean, this is Andrew Jackson.
This is all of them that really had the American plan that we were going to pay for it by people that wanted access to what I call the golden door, through the golden door.
Walk us through that one more time, how the country for the first 140 years paid for everything through this.
And then they went and they said, Hey, we got a better source of that.
It's the American citizen.
Let's go get their money, sir.
unidentified
The low-hanging fruit.
The tax addicts went after the low-hanging fruit, which is the American citizen.
And that's really one of the reasons why we fought the Revolutionary War is, you know, Great Britain, with the Iron Act of 1750, with the WUAC, they wanted to stop manufacturing activity in the colonies and force us to buy made-in-Britain goods because we're the largest purchaser and consumer of goods from Great Britain.
And they actually said, you cannot...
Make anything out of pig iron.
You can only sell a rod of pig iron, a block of pig iron, but you can't make a cast iron pan out of it.
You can't make wagon wheels out of it.
You have to send that pig iron back to Great Britain on a Great Britain ship.
Send it back here, and then we'll sell you the finished product.
You're not allowed to make it yourself.
And so, you know, we rose up against that.
So, you know, the desire to have independence by making your own goods goes all the way back to the Revolutionary War.
You know, you're absolutely right.
Charging a fee for something that is of value is a tenet of capitalism.
And that's why I believe tariffs are actually a foundational point of capitalism.
You know, access to the world's greatest market, you should have to pay a fee to enter that.
It should not be for free.
And so, you know, that is what President Trump understands, that tariffs allow you to enter our market and operate here.
And that will then fund us so that we can be an independent nation, because right now we're not an independent nation.
If communists are trying to cut us off from goods, we would be crippled.
Our defense base would be severely injured.
steve bannon
John, to get to your website, your social media, to get your new book, where do people go?
unidentified
John Gardner, VOH, on X, on Getter, I'm at MFG Gear.
Official, MFG Gear Official.
And, you know, Manufacture Local, How to Make America the Manufacturing Superpower of the World is on Amazon and Barnes& Nobles.
And it's really a solution-oriented book about how we can make this nation a manufacturing superpower.
And President Trump understands that to be a great power, you have to have manufacturing capability.
steve bannon
To be a great power, you have to be a great industrial power.
John Gardner, you're an American patriot and hero.
Thank you very much for joining us.
We look forward to getting you back on.
We've got a signal so we can see your lovely visage.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
Thanks for having me on.
Sorry about the signal.
steve bannon
Thanks, bro.
That's okay.
Wow.
I thought I was going to go through Pete Hicks' testimony.
I'm going to do that tomorrow.
You've got to see.
We'll work overnight and get a highlight reel of the Heritans.
Coming after Brother Pete Hegseth, but he comported himself so magnificently that Joni Ernst is one of his biggest critics, and she's a combat vet.
She came out saying his praises and told Iowa Radio, she's all in, ready to vote.
Joni Ernst is in.
I think all the Republicans are going to be in.
Time to move this now through the committee quickly, get it to the floor.
Let's have Pete Hegseth take the oath of office next Monday.
Right after President Trump on days of thunder, the kickoff.
Aaron Czar, now more than ever since, you know, Chris Ray told us the other night, the FBI director, that I don't know, you know, why he's arresting thousands of J6ers and he's doing all this stuff about kicking down doors of 70-year-old grandmothers that are praying the rosary outside of abortion mills.
He's arresting parents going to school board meetings that are tired of pornography being played in grade schools.
He just kind of drops a bomb going out the door.
Yeah, our greatest existential threat is actually the Chinese Communist Party.
And it turns out they're all over.
They're embedded.
They've embedded malware in our transportation system, in our electro-energy grid, in the natural gas pipelines.
And, oh, by the way, the telecom services, too.
Now, you and your family have this great company that tries to protect us from cyber attacks.
It's quite evident, sir.
That the Chinese Communist Party is in an active cyber war with the United States of America already, and they're not the only ones.
Tell us how your products can protect this audience to keep what is theirs, their information, their digital self to themselves, sir.
unidentified
Well, thanks for the intro.
First off, I'm doing my best Zuck impersonation right now because I find it hilarious that he's backpedaling and being one for free speech.
Because I'm ultimately pissed off deep down, so I'm trying to have a little bit of light today.
But, you know, everyone's being gaslit every day, and it's really hard to decipher what's real or not.
I think the theme...
steve bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Zara, you're a smart guy.
Tell me about Zuck for a second.
Tell me, because, hey, I say Zuck.
No, it's just me.
But I know why he's being a supplicant, because he's a criminal.
He put a half a billion dollars of his own money to steal the election from President Trump in 2020. Have we forgotten that?
Well, I certainly haven't.
I think he's part of this vast criminal conspiracy, and he can buy all the tickets to the inauguration he wants.
He can underwrite all the balls he wants.
He can sit anywhere he wants.
He can sit where Melania sits.
It doesn't make a difference.
He's a criminal, and when we go to adjudicate this, he's going to be found to be a criminal, and he's going to be held responsible for that.
These guys can't run away.
They can't do one thing one day and think because they come and write a couple of checks that all of a sudden it's all going to be fine.
It's not going to be fine, and Zuck may be the worst of all.
So, Aaron, thank you for triggering me here when we're talking about your products.
unidentified
I figured it might do something.
Well, you know, he rebranded himself.
He wears oversized shirts like myself.
He's got curly hair, and he wears a pendant, except mine's made with tinfoil.
So I think it's funny that everyone wants to be this big, powerful version like Elon Musk, who's standing up and being this rightful person.
But at the end of the day, I mean...
What is even going on?
It's honestly just like it's so hilarious.
Everything that we're being fed.
Here's my point.
Resilience.
The 2025 theme should be resilience.
It should be resilience as a nation and it should be resilience as individual because no one is coming to save you and we have to take control into our own health.
Our own hands to support our families, to support our business, and to continue to try to thrive.
And back to your original question, thanks for going on that tangent with me, is preparation around one of the most critical things is your security, your privacy, your security around your technology that you have, the phones that you hold, the laptops that you use, everything that you use emits and receives a signal, and we are all just being harvested.
We're just being taken for all of our data, all of our information, and ultimately all of our control.
And one way to take that back and really have ownership over it is by using the Silent Faraday bag.
So we've created signal-blocking tools, and they come from backpacks and sleeves and many other styles that you could put your phone, your laptop, your tablet, your car keys, anything inside, and it blocks all wireless signal.
You are instantly undetectable.
You are instantly empowered with your own privacy and security.
And there's an amazing feeling when you have ownership over that, or at least you have a say in what's happening.
Because you can't turn your phone off.
There's no power off switch.
It's not ever off.
Can't take the battery out.
Can't unplug it.
Can't disconnect the hardware components with the radios.
Same with laptops.
And, you know, what John Gardner was saying about Making U.S. manufacturing, we're big to that as well.
A lot of our products, we made quite a few products made in the U.S., wholly in the U.S., from U.S. materials, which is very compliance, because we also service the warfighter.
We want to support freedom.
And so we are down to do it for individuals, freedom-loving Americans and warfighters and people that want to, like, progress in the right direction.
So this is one component about being resilient.
It's about being prepared.
It's about being ready for what will happen next.
And my God, it's just tragedy after tragedy.
So I just really encourage everyone to check out these tools, which you've promoted for a long time, and I've come on here several times.
And that's at slnt.com.
And you can use the code Bannon for 15% off the entire site.
That's what I have to say.
steve bannon
Yeah, slnt.com.
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Aaron, do you have a personal—I know people want to follow you.
Do you have a personal social media account people can follow you?
unidentified
Not yet, but you could go to silence.
I'll come out of the woodworks eventually when we hit a milestone where I want to have a little more fun like I am now.
But you can go to G-O-S-L-N-T and follow us.
We show the most leg online, so check us out.
steve bannon
Love you, brother.
You're amazing.
And he's not Zuckerberg.
He's not the Zuck.
Zara, you're unbelievable.
Thank you, Aaron.
unidentified
Zara.
steve bannon
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I think we're going to go back to North Carolina.
I'm going to get Ben to stay overnight.
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I'm also going to break down the Heritans coming after Pete Hegseth, but that one's going to move forward.
Joni Ernst just threw in for Pete.
We're also going to have a bunch of live coverage of the other Days of Thunder, the preamble, the confirmations.
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