Jan. 13, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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The house was built by my mother and father in 1960, and I lived here my whole life, so there's a lot of memories here. | |
| And I think I owed it to them as well to try my best to save it. | ||
| Some things in life are worth fighting for. | ||
| I mean, if I were to lose this house, it would be very difficult to afford to be able to build a new house, to pay the enormous property taxes they have here. | ||
| What would I do? | ||
| When I was out here hosing the house down and getting ready, and when the houses started to burn, I didn't see one single fire truck out here at all. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| If they had some fire trucks, just put a squirt here, a squirt there, and kept an eye on things, all these houses would be here now. | ||
| I'm telling you right now, I saw with my own eyeballs. | ||
| All these houses, the houses behind me, they're all gone. | ||
| They started with one little spark, one little small fire. | ||
| They just squirted those out and had a few people out there. | ||
| They'd all be here now. | ||
| I did what I needed to do. | ||
| I did what I wanted to do. | ||
| I did what I thought I could do. | ||
| And that's what I did. | ||
| President-elect Trump has blamed you for this crisis. | ||
| He called you incompetent. | ||
| What's your response? | ||
| Well, I called for him to come out, take a look for himself. | ||
| We want to do in the spirit of an open hand, not a closed fist. | ||
| He's the president-elect. | ||
| I respect the office. | ||
| We have a president of the United States that within 36 hours provided a major disaster declaration over a text. | ||
| We had support from the president of the United States, Joe Biden, with 100% reimbursement. | ||
| All the resources you could hope for or imagine. | ||
| Constant communication. | ||
| I'd like to extend that to the president-elect. | ||
| I don't know what he's referring to when he talks about the Delta smelt and reservoirs. | ||
| The reservoirs are completely full of the state reservoirs here in Southern California. | ||
| That mis- and disinformation I don't think advantages or aids any of us. | ||
| Responding to Donald Trump's insults, we would spend another month. | ||
| I'm very familiar with them. | ||
| Every elected official that he disagrees with, very familiar with them. | ||
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We do know, though, from reporting here locally that that one reservoir that serves the Palisades was not full. | |
| And that's exactly what triggered my desire to get the investigation to understand what was happening with that local reservoir. | ||
| That was not a state system reservoir, which the president-elect was referring to as it relates to the Delta and somehow connecting the Delta smelt to this fire, which is inexcusable because it's inaccurate, also incomprehensible. | ||
| To anyone that understands water policy in the state. | ||
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My understanding is that you have put a call into President-elect Trump. | |
| Has he called you back? | ||
| No, that was months ago. | ||
| That was after his victory. | ||
| So I look forward to him again coming out here in the spirit of cooperation. | ||
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Forgive me for interrupting you, but you did invite him to come out here. | |
| Have you had any response? | ||
| No. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Multiple times, Mr. Trump has threatened to withhold aid for California wildfires, both as president and now again as president-elect. | ||
| Are you worried that he might actually do that? | ||
| I mean, he's done it in Utah. | ||
| He's done it in Michigan. | ||
| They did it in Puerto Rico. | ||
| He did it to California back before I was even governor in 2018, until he found out folks in Orange County voted for him, and then he decided to give them money. | ||
| So he's been at this for years and years and years. | ||
| It transcends states, including, by the way, Georgia. | ||
| He's threatened similarly. | ||
| So that's just, that's his style. | ||
| And, you know, we take it. | ||
| Seriously, to the extent that in the past, it's taken a little bit more time. | ||
| I've been pretty expressive about that in the context of someone threatening our first responders in terms of supporting. | ||
| The immediacy of their needs. | ||
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That's what you take it as, that President-elect Trump is threatening the first responders here. | |
| Well, I mean, it's what he said. | ||
| He said, I'm not going to support the firefighting efforts. | ||
| I'm not going to support the state of California as it relates to its emergency management. | ||
| He made this pretty clear during the election. | ||
| Unless they do my bidding. | ||
| And again, these are familiar terms, and they're familiar to a lot of other states, not just my state. | ||
| And they're familiar to not just me as governor, but the previous governor of California, Governor Brown, that was battling with these same things. | ||
| So you just work through these things, and I'm just blessed. | ||
| I mean this. | ||
| I'm blessed. | ||
| I have 40 million Americans that happen to live in California that Joe Biden's president of the United States and did what he did immediately. | ||
| And to the extent that we can work with the same relationship and that same spirit with Donald Trump, I hope we can. | ||
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China's cyber program is by far and away the world's largest, bigger than that of every major nation combined, and has stolen more of Americans' personal and corporate data than that of every nation, big or small, combined. | |
| But even beyond the cyber theft. | ||
| There's another part of the Chinese cyber threat that I think has not gotten the attention publicly that it, I think, desperately deserves, and that is Chinese government's pre-positioning on American civilian critical infrastructure to lie in wait on those networks, to be in a position to wreak havoc. | ||
| And can inflict real-world harm at a time and place of their choosing. | ||
| The Chinese have already insinuated malware into critical American infrastructure. | ||
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That's correct. | |
| Like what? | ||
| Things like water treatment. | ||
| We're talking about transportation systems. | ||
| We're talking about targeting of our energy sector, the electric grid, natural gas pipelines. | ||
| And recently, we've seen targeting of our telecommunications system. | ||
| RFK Jr., then you have Kash Patel, and then Tulsi Gabbard. | ||
| Who do you think is the least likely to get through? | ||
| If you talk to Republicans right now, I think every single one that we've talked to wants all four to get through, believes all four will get through, unless something new is presented during those congressional hearings. | ||
| So if we're just litigating the things that are the known knowns in public, I think all four get through. | ||
| I know there's a lot of work being done, particularly on Hegseth by Democrats, to try to get somebody involved in the various allegations against him to testify, to go public, so that they have new information. | ||
| To tie it to, so far, my understanding is there's not been a lot of luck in getting that done. | ||
| And so unless that happens, Republicans want to unite, want to be able to give Trump the cabinet that he wants, whether people like it or not. | ||
| He won, and they believe that he has a right to have it. | ||
| And I think you saw it with Jody Ernst. | ||
| Like, listen, you've got to be one hell of a tough person with the skin of a rhino to take the crap that you have to take on social media, advertising, back in your state. | ||
| If you're thinking of running again, if you worry about a primary, there's been a lot of money. | ||
| There's been a lot of agitation. | ||
| There's been a lot of threats about what happens if you don't support the nominees. | ||
| And so there just aren't that many people that are like, hell yeah, sign me up for that. | ||
| I want to be the person to tank one of these nominees. | ||
| So it would take something new, I think, to do that. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
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I know you don't like hearing that. | |
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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Mega Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| It's Monday, 13 January, Year of the Lord, 2025. | ||
| Days of Thunder, the preamble, starting tomorrow with the amazing, really flood the zone. | ||
| Of the confirmations, we're going to get to all that in a moment. | ||
| I want to go, I've got Eric Prince, I've only got him for a while, but I want to start with, in California, I wanted to start with that video of just the civilian that looked like he was, I don't know, in his 70s. | ||
| Said he had a garden hose and just kind of kept the water on it and everybody fled and no firemen showed up. | ||
| And then you've got Gavin Newsom sitting there whining. | ||
| He wants an unlimited check to, I think, paper over what has just been an absolute complete debacle. | ||
| Number one, for the first couple of days, and I think the wind's about to start again, you know, where are the firemen? | ||
| Not that they're not brave and want to go in. | ||
| What's the organization? | ||
| What commands are they given? | ||
| And the logistics. | ||
| I'm shocked all weekend as we monitor this. | ||
| Just to see a couple of planes in the air. | ||
| I mean, it's pretty shocking, particularly given the amount of damage. | ||
| Eric, so you're a logistics expert. | ||
| Walk me through your understanding of exactly what the plan has been out there in California to combat this. | ||
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Well, Newsom is definitely deflecting from his decades of environmental and state resource mismanagement. | |
| Certainly... | ||
| If he really had all the water that I think they needed, certainly those lines are cross-connected. | ||
| Pacific Palisades could have drawn from something else if there was actually enough water. | ||
| But the fact is, as the video clip of the lone survivor guy who saved his house, he got it done, probably pulling off of his own swimming pool supply. | ||
| The state has cataclysmically failed the overtaxed taxpayers of Southern California. | ||
| And, you know, the vignettes of private sector showing up and getting it done gives courage. | ||
| It reminds us of what made America in the first place. | ||
| But for the citizens of California, they have to be wondering what the hell have they been paying for for so long when in this absolute hour of need, the state has really dropped the ball. | ||
| All the airplanes that are flying around. | ||
| Are contracted by CAL FIRE, but those are largely private planes, private owners, private crews, in many cases flying aircraft that are 60 or more years old to provide the kind of precision drops to fight those fires. | ||
| They couldn't fight. | ||
| They couldn't fly in the first, I think, day, day and a half because of the excessively high winds. | ||
| They were blowing 80 even to 100 miles an hour. | ||
| And some of those mountain passes, which they can't deliver water accurately in those kind of conditions. | ||
| But it's a sad case that the private sector shows up on time and gets it done. | ||
| Caruso, the guy who ran against the idiot mayor of L.A., he actually saved his shopping mall by contracting with private firefighters to come and make sure it didn't burn. | ||
| And alas, it's still standing. | ||
| You know, Jonathan Karl yesterday, we don't have time to play it, but he confronted the head of FEMA, or the spokesman for FEMA. But he said, hey, there's been an activation of certain army units, certain military units. | ||
| But Jonathan Karl had checked with him and they had not had any contact with the governor of California. | ||
| They had not been requested to actually move out there. | ||
| Or do you think there are enough, like, military assets? | ||
| And I don't so mean National Guard. | ||
| The Army's got tremendous logistics in this. | ||
| And when I see just a couple of planes flying around, I think they've got 2,500 National Guard. | ||
| So there's going to be kind of a lot of looting going on. | ||
| Are they, is Gavin Newsom on top of this thing to actually get the right resources there? | ||
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Look, throwing troops at a fire is not necessarily the answer. | |
| They don't have training in fighting wildfires or certainly in structure fires. | ||
| It appears that a lot of these additional fires are actually set by arson. | ||
| And there's been a number of citizens that have apprehended some very shady-looking people setting additional fires. | ||
| So again, a lack of law and order, a lack of consequence for people committing crimes. | ||
| Remember, in Gavin Newsom's California, you can steal just under $1,000 and not be charged with a felony. | ||
| I would say if the mayor put out a arsons will be shot on site, you might get a different string of behavior. | ||
| But it's like the left cannot ever embrace a law and order mentality or to bring order to these things. | ||
| And sadly, the people of Southern California are suffering from what they voted for. | ||
| Let's talk about, before I go to break, I want to talk about, he's whining already about unlimited resources. | ||
| I mean, he even had Barrasso on the shows saying, hey, we're not going to write unlimited checks given the, not just the politics, but the incompetence and almost malfeasance and criminal negligence of some officials. | ||
| Do you agree with that? | ||
| The money's got to be really thought through about going there. | ||
| I mean, the rest of America shouldn't have to bail out. | ||
| Really, the criminal negligence of government officials, should they? | ||
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Especially not. | |
| And especially not, their insurance companies are absolutely going to get blown up on this. | ||
| I know private insurers were, a lot of them were canceling because they were not allowed to raise rates. | ||
| Why do the rates keep going up? | ||
| Because of bad fire management. | ||
| Not cleaning out all the fuel sources out of all these hillsides has made them a big tinderbox. | ||
| So cascading bad decisions made by government officials in California are not the responsibility of the federal taxpayers of the United States government. | ||
| And especially when you look at the demands that Newsom is putting out compared to the people in North Carolina, significant suffering from the flood damage, and they have been truly left wanting an inadequate response by FEMA, the Biden administration, the federal government. | ||
| And sadly, politics should not play into this. | ||
| But, you know, Pacific Palisades, they voted 70-some percent for Karen Bass, and they are getting Mayor Bass' governance right now. | ||
| Eric, hang on for one second. | ||
| We'll take a short commercial break. | ||
| Eric Prince is with us. | ||
| We're going to talk about the Days of Thunder preamble. | ||
| With the Flood the Zone confirmations that will start tomorrow morning. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Eric Prince on the other side. | ||
| Johnny Kahn, who lost his house in the Palisades, takes us out. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| Okay, I want to get to the confirmation. | ||
| Washington Post just put up an editorial. | ||
| They endorse everybody, but, you know, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, Russ Vogt, and Pete Hexeth. | ||
| So, in other words, they want to get... | ||
| The more less controversial pics in there. | ||
| Remember, these controversial pics are in there for a reason. | ||
| Eric, I just want to make sure I give you, because it's already blowing up in the chat, a little bit on social media, that Eric Prince shoot arsonists on sight. | ||
| I understand that's in the war room, rough Roman justice. | ||
| But didn't even the Romans give him a drumhead trial first, sir? | ||
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There's been 10 bodies found already. | |
| There's going to be hundreds more. | ||
| Clearly these arsonists are committing murder via fire. | ||
| And so if you see someone in the act of committing murder, lethal force is authorized. | ||
| That's why I want to clarify that statement. | ||
| Look, this whole thing is a disaster. | ||
| Gavin Newsom is a disaster as a governor. | ||
| I think Elon Musk should lead a recall effort against Gavin Newsom. | ||
| Musk will have to move back to California. | ||
| But Musk should lead the recall and be the next governor of California. | ||
| He can't be president because he was born in South Africa, but he can definitely fix California. | ||
| And I would rather have 1% of Elon Musk's brain dedicated to fixing California than 100% of the Democratic Party of California having anything to do with the governance of the state going forward. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| Let's go to Newsom first. | ||
| You're calling for his recall. | ||
| He just went out yesterday. | ||
| We don't have time to play because it was too stupid. | ||
| But in the middle of all this debacle, right? | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| They're feeling now it could be up to $150 billion of damage. | ||
| And the Kobayashi, I think it was the Kobayashi newsletter, says it could take a decade. | ||
| It'll have a major impact on the American economy. | ||
| It's going to have a major impact on our growth, right? | ||
| This is one of the most creative, dynamic parts of the country. | ||
| $150 billion of damage. | ||
| Talk about the insurance industry is going to implode. | ||
| So it's not just they're looking for a federal bailout to take care of what's going on now. | ||
| They're going to need a massive bailout of the insurance industry. | ||
| And Gavin Newsom yesterday spent with this Soboroff guy at MSMEC, I think five minutes going through some futuristic 5D chess city, the city of the future. | ||
| He just goes on and on like he's detached from reality. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
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He's not aspiring to anything other than having to dig out of this massive hole, a crater. | |
| That exists now in Southern California. | ||
| And the sad thing is it's a self-inflicted wound. | ||
| Yes, fires happen. | ||
| We have machinery. | ||
| We have automation. | ||
| We have pumps that can fix those things. | ||
| But when you have multi-decade loaded up hillsides of fuel because of environmental wackiness that prevents you from thinning it, culling it, logging it, then this thing explodes on top of not having enough water in the system. | ||
| It's really bad. | ||
| This is going to have a big blight. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| On the rest of the U.S. economy, everyone pays more for insurance when there's a massive insurance loss, not just the people of Southern California. | ||
| People in this audience understand in North Carolina, where they're MAGA voters, they're not getting any aid. | ||
| And I think it's also Northwest Georgia, right? | ||
| They're slow walking that. | ||
| But here... | ||
| All they're doing is begging for more and more of a bailout, more and more aid when they're the first people to have... | ||
| Remember, this is going to be the big center of resistance. | ||
| This was the big center of resistance to President Trump, the Trump movement, MAGA, and President Trump as president. | ||
| You had the mayor who knew wins were coming. | ||
| She was briefed on it. | ||
| She went to Ghana for the inauguration of their president. | ||
| You had a fire chief, I think, the other day, deputy fire chief. | ||
| A deputy fire chief who didn't understand about how the water flowed and the Palisades Reservoir being empty. | ||
| Didn't understand that the 117 million gallons was not there. | ||
| You've had Gavin Newsom, whose performance has been there for everybody the last couple of days. | ||
| Do you believe this is more an incompetence and malfeasance? | ||
| Do you actually think it rises to the level of criminal negligence and one of the things that has to happen here? | ||
| As President Trump steps in and looks at, and we've been a big advocate of President Trump going out there as soon as possible because they need to see what real leadership looks like, not a beta male like Gavin Newsom. | ||
| Do you think this rises to the level of criminal negligence on the part of these officials? | ||
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Look, when you have hiring, when people are saying we're hiring not based on skill, but based solely on diversity, and then this happens where not just 10, dozens of people are going to die, tens of thousands of people have lost everything in terms of their house, their business, any kind of place to sleep. | |
| Yeah, it's definitely getting, it's way beyond incompetence. | ||
| There definitely needs to be some prosecutions, but again, they don't prosecute criminals out there. | ||
| So if it doesn't happen at the federal level, I just don't see it happening. | ||
| Perhaps that's part of the strings that need to come. | ||
| If there's going to be federal aid, there must be accountability. | ||
| That speaks to the malpractice and stupidity we have across all aspects of society. | ||
| When you screw up, someone has to pay. | ||
| Okay, let's go back to the recall of Gavin Newsom. | ||
| People are talking about Mayor Bass, but I think she's irrelevant in this because she's so incompetent. | ||
| But Gavin Newsom, he's already been recalled once, because he got recalled, but then the time came for the vote. | ||
| There wasn't what we call on Wall Street a bid away. | ||
| There wasn't really a candidate that Alshantz. | ||
| So he won, I think, with almost 60% of the vote in the following election. | ||
| You're calling for his recall. | ||
| Walk me through your logic of why Elon Musk. | ||
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Because again, 1% of Elon Musk's brain vastly exceeds Gavin Newsom's brain. | |
| And I think actually coming from a business perspective, he has interest in the state, he has employees in the state, and he wants to see the state succeed and not be wrecked by the continued compounding stupidity of leftist environmentalists, social engineering, and other wackiness that they've been pushing. | ||
| I think it'd be a phenomenal fit for him. | ||
| Look, obviously, Musk is not going to be a career politician, but if he can fix California, that is a huge driver of the American economy. | ||
| That's what I want to talk about. | ||
| The aerospace industry, the defense industry, the biotech industry, besides entertainment, the tech industry itself. | ||
| Folks out there, don't think just because it's a bunch of progressives in Southern California, it's not going to impact your life. | ||
| Southern California itself, I think, is the fifth largest economy in the world, fifth or sixth largest economy in the world, if you really count apples to apples. | ||
| It's a massive economy. | ||
| Southern California is as big a driver of that economy as Silicon Valley. | ||
| One more time, why is this important for the country? | ||
| Obviously, Elon Musk and I have very different views on many things, but why do you think Elon Musk is the guy then? | ||
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We might not agree with Elon Musk a thousand percent of the time, but he is a phenomenal advocate, ally in the fight against creeping government bloat and socialism and nonsense. | |
| And California has been the leading agent of that kind of change and that malign attitude of the rest of the country. | ||
| Even the crazy restrictions they put on cars, on emissions, on logging, on even how they generate their power. | ||
| It all needs to be cleaned up. | ||
| California used to be an even greater state. | ||
| The weather is still fantastic, but not so great when all the houses in your entire neighborhood are obliterated in a weekend. | ||
| Look, my differences with Elon Musk are legion on everything from globalism to nationalism to the Chinese Communist Party to actually visas, transhumanism, all of it. | ||
| But is your point that if you recall Newsom, who has to be recalled, You're not going to be able to beat him with a conventional Republican candidate that you've got to look outside the box. | ||
| The point you're making is, besides being a builder and the world's richest man, he, like Caruso, is you going to have to come with somebody that doesn't come from a political background? | ||
| Because you're not going to beat Newsom in the fight that has to take place after the recall with a conventional candidate? | ||
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I think unconventional is the way to defeat the very conventional, very leftist, and very installed and entitled blob that is the Democrat Party in California. | |
| Okay, I want to stay on unconventional. | ||
| Tomorrow starts, and I'm so glad that the team has now done Flood the Zone. | ||
| I think we have 13... | ||
| 13 confirmation candidates and I think 14 hearings. | ||
| Pam Bondi's going to get two back-to-back. | ||
| I think those are Thursday and Friday or Wednesday, Thursday. | ||
| We'll get the chart there in a second. | ||
| Pete Hegseth. | ||
| It's one of the more unconventional, because you're really taking it from the warrior cast and not going to one of these either senior executives, senior member of Congress, or a former flag officer. | ||
| Walk me through the pros and cons of Pete Hegseth and why you think he should be confirmed and confirmed immediately. | ||
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Look, for 20-some years, we've been at this so-called global war on terror, which has been done in a very half-assed management approach, and we've lost abysmally. | |
| And I think it's very important to have a veteran that has lived with, in the field, the bad decisions made by bureaucrat generals and bureaucrats back in Washington to say, enough of that, and he's going to get the military refocused on lethality and merit. | ||
| We need a military that is a large, snarling, very scary organism that our enemies actually not just respect, but fear. | ||
| And when you have the constant pursuit of green biofuel or diversity, diversity, diversity instead of lethality and merit, you get a military that shoots its own airplanes down, that crashes ships, that doesn't put water on fires when their ships are on fire, | ||
| that you get defeated in Afghanistan by 20,000 illiterate goat herders, all the techno-wizardry of the U.S. military defeated in Afghanistan, we have setback after setback, and the nonsense must stop. | ||
| Or when the hour of need of actual existential crisis of state-on-state warfare threatening America, we will be found very, very wanting and extremely disappointed with the results. | ||
| If we don't fix it, Hegseth is the guy to fix it. | ||
| Eric, I know you've got to bounce, but I just need you a few minutes on the other side. | ||
| We're also going to talk about the bond market. | ||
| It's in kind of revolt about the previous spending of the United States government and our debt. | ||
| This has nothing to do with President Trump's tariffs. | ||
| They're trying to spin that. | ||
| We're going to have E.J. Anthony break it down. | ||
| I had Philip Patrick on the show on Saturday. | ||
| Birch gold now more than ever. | ||
| Just look at the bond market. | ||
| I told you it was going to be turbulent, folks. | ||
| Turbulence is coming now even before the days of thunder. | ||
| Birchgold.com slash ban and the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| Get the new free installment. | ||
| Modern monetary theory. | ||
| The idea that broke the world. | ||
| Think it ain't broke? | ||
| Look out in California. | ||
| Particularly Southern California. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Back in the warm in just a moment. | ||
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RFK Jr., then you have Kash Patel, and then Tulsi Gabbard. | |
| Who do you think is the least likely to get through? | ||
| If you talk to Republicans right now, I think every single one that we've talked to wants all four to get through, believes all four will get through, unless something new is presented during those congressional hearings. | ||
| So if we're just litigating the things that are the known knowns in public, I think all four get through. | ||
| I know there's a lot of work being done, particularly on Hegseth by Democrats, to try to get somebody involved in the various allegations against him to testify, to go public, so that they have new information. | ||
| To tie it to, so far, my understanding is there's not been a lot of luck in getting that done. | ||
| And so unless that happens, Republicans want to unite, want to be able to give Trump the cabinet that he wants, whether people like it or not. | ||
| He won, and they believe that he has a right to have it. | ||
| And I think you saw it with Jody Ernst. | ||
| Listen, you've got to be one hell of a tough person with the skin of a rhino to take the crap that you have to take on social media, advertising, back in your state. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Jim Vanderhay. | ||
| Talk to me. | ||
| They're going to try to throw up. | ||
| They're desperately searching for somebody. | ||
| All these anonymous accusations, they're desperately trying to get on a search somebody to step forward that's a victim or knows a victim or something. | ||
| What type of thing are they going to throw at Pete Hegseth, and how do we have to power through this? | ||
| Because the audience has to understand we're going to have to man the ramparts both at Article 3, at our own app, Bill Blaster, etc., to make sure we make contact with all these senators starting this afternoon and tomorrow to push Pete Hegseth through. | ||
| What types of things do you think they're going to come at him with, Eric, that we should be prepared for? | ||
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It will be a litany or an adjacent to whatever they've claimed before. | |
| Look, he's not been a government contractor, so there's not going to be any weird claims of billing malfeasance. | ||
| But, I mean, heck, he's been around the TV business and all the wild accusations people can make around that. | ||
| So you can expect someone to make up something or to be paid to make up something or paid to remember something very differently than it happened. | ||
| And he's got to be resolute and indeed power through that. | ||
| The rest of the, how important, I mean, you know defense and intel as well as anybody. | ||
| You've got Ratcliffe, but really the key one is Tulsi Gabbard. | ||
| I should note that Tulsi Gabbard's hearing has been delayed. | ||
| She's one of the heavies that's not coming this week. | ||
| The other is Cash Patel, but Cash, they're saying that he's not coming because they're only doing cabinet folks this week. | ||
| So your thoughts about the rest of them and how important is the power through this to get President Trump his team? | ||
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Trump won the election. | |
| It's advising consent. | ||
| It's not advising control is the role of the Senate. | ||
| And Republicans need to be on board, including Murkowski and Collins. | ||
| I mean, heck, I'm bitter about Republicans that... | ||
| Kind of vote only when they feel like it. | ||
| And I really feel like, well, one of the things to fix America is to go back to the states electing senators, the state legislatures, not direct election. | ||
| The founders had that one right. | ||
| Let's go for something. | ||
| So, folks, I'm going to get back to this in a second, in a moment, after we do the bond market. | ||
| We've got to focus on the Days of Thunder preamble, which is going to be this week. | ||
| 13 cabinet nominees are going to go in the confirmation process. | ||
| We're going to cover that wall-to-wall because it's going to be pretty exciting because the Democrats look to set a lot of traps for President Trump. | ||
| I do want to play from President Trump's National Security Council. | ||
| Mike Waltz, the congressman of Green Beret. | ||
| Seb Gorka will be head of, I think, counterterrorism. | ||
| Seb obviously contributed to the show and was with me at Breitbart for years and with us in the White House the first time. | ||
| I want to play this and get your response. | ||
| This is about Ukraine. | ||
| Eric Prince. | ||
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The other thing that we're going to need to see is really stabilizing things on the battlefield. | |
| And one of the things that we'll be asking of the Ukrainians is they have real manpower issues. | ||
| Their draft age right now is 26 years old, not 18. I don't think a lot of people realize that. | ||
| They could generate hundreds of thousands of new soldiers. | ||
| So when we hear about morale problems, when we hear about issues on the front line, look. | ||
| If the Ukrainians have asked the entire world to be all in for democracy, we need them to be all in for democracy. | ||
| And they certainly have fought bravely. | ||
| They certainly have taken a very noble and tough stand. | ||
| But we need to see those manpower shortages addressed. | ||
| This isn't just about munitions, ammunition, or writing more checks. | ||
| It's about seeing the front lines stabilized so that we can enter into some type of deal. | ||
| I'll give one tip away that the president has mentioned. | ||
| He will say to that murderous former KGB colonel, that thug who runs the Russian Federation, you will negotiate now or the aid that we have given to Ukraine thus far will look like peanuts. | ||
| That's how he will force those gentlemen to come to an arrangement that stops the bloodshed. | ||
| So, Eric Prince, you know, Robert Kagan's got a big piece in The Atlantic of how Trump's first strategic defeat will be Ukraine. | ||
| This is not Trump's war. | ||
| Trump fought this from the beginning. | ||
| Mike Waltz is saying, and we've been, and so Mike Waltz should understand something. | ||
| The audience in the war room knows about the non-18-year-old conscripts for over a year, about a year and a half, when they tried to actually do it in Ukraine and got shot down. | ||
| Seb's saying flood the zone with more weapons for Ukraine. | ||
| Waltz is saying help them stabilize the battlefield with more conscripts. | ||
| Does President Trump want to own this war? | ||
| I thought our theory of the case was 48 hours, 72 hours, we're going to get the hell out. | ||
| And really, to me, it's NATO and the Ukrainians that a little bit have to say, hey, guys, this war is over. | ||
| It's time for you to get to the negotiating table. | ||
| Am I missing it? | ||
| Are we going to actually... | ||
| Because what they're talking about by putting more weapons in and getting them conscripts is some sort of kind of semi-active role as much as the Biden administration in the Ukrainian war. | ||
| Am I wrong on this, brother? | ||
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Look, Zelensky is not viewed as a legitimate negotiating counterparty for the Russians because Zelensky has overstayed the mandate and canceled those last elections. | |
| So they've got to have an election. | ||
| I think there's one scheduled for March or April. | ||
| The Ukrainians have not been able to put more manpower in the field. | ||
| They are running out. | ||
| I think I agree with Walt on that point, that if they're going to do this, then they're going to be demanding all this support from partner nations. | ||
| They at least have to have the same service age as the rest of those countries. | ||
| And I would imagine Seb is saying that because they're trying to negotiate from some kind of position of strength. | ||
| Because the fact is, the Russians are winning. | ||
| They have been winning for many months now. | ||
| And they're grinding along. | ||
| What incentive do the Russians have to stop? | ||
| But I do think the Russians do want to have a negotiated settlement. | ||
| The question is, what's left of Ukraine at the end of it? | ||
| Probably everything east of the Dnieper River is what they'll take. | ||
| They have a weather window now where the ground is hard enough. | ||
| Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it. | ||
| Full stop, full stop. | ||
| You said west of what river? | ||
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Sorry, everything east of the Dnieper. | |
| Yeah, but that's my point. | ||
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That's a lot worse than this war started. | |
| That's taken half of the country or 40% of the country, is it not? | ||
| I'm not saying I disagree with that. | ||
| I just want to make people in the audience understand we were talking about the Russian-speaking provinces of the Donbass and Crimea. | ||
| Now because of Biden's terrific management of this war, now you're talking about 40% of Ukraine? | ||
| Do what? | ||
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That's a real possibility. | |
| And so, yeah, hopefully Trump can convince Putin to stop and to rejoin the Western nations. | ||
| Again, it is in our interest to pull Russia away from the orbit of China. | ||
| That is really bad for America. | ||
| And Steve, I got to run, man. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Go, go, go, go, go, go, go. | ||
| I know you gave us more time than we asked for. | ||
| I appreciate you, brother. | ||
| We'll get all your podcasts. | ||
| Just when I got to the good questions. | ||
| This is, you know, they're asking for security guarantees already. | ||
| Unless he says it's got to be an American security guarantee. | ||
| It has to be an American security guarantee, which means young men and women in the Ukraine. | ||
| What the demands of NATO and the party of Davos and Brussels. | ||
| Is to me so over the top. | ||
| President Trump does not want to own this war. | ||
| He has no involvement in this war. | ||
| He campaigned against this war. | ||
| He has said from the beginning this war should have never started. | ||
| And if President Trump, if the election in 2020 had not been stolen and he didn't have an illegitimate Biden regime in there, this war would have never taken place under President Trump's watch. | ||
| Of that, there is just no doubt. | ||
| And now you see Kagan and all the Atlanticists and the public intellectuals on the left. | ||
| They're setting a trap right there for President Trump. | ||
| I just hope it's national security guys, who I think very highly of, are on point here. | ||
| President Trump does not want to own this war. | ||
| You get into this thing for six months to a year, and they're setting up to blame Trump for their own failures. | ||
| They have failed here. | ||
| From the beginning, it's been an abject, tragic failure. | ||
| The Ukrainian people have paid for this, right? | ||
| The Ukrainian people have paid for this. | ||
| And now they're trying to ensnarl President Trump in this trap. | ||
| And they'll go to any length to do it. | ||
| I want to go now to E.J. and Tony. | ||
| E.J., all kind of... | ||
| And we've told the audience, we've trained the audience to say, hey, the 10-year bond... | ||
| The price of the 10-year bond is kind of what drives your life. | ||
| Your car loan, your credit card, your mortgage, any personal loan you would take out. | ||
| And so people very much are focused on... | ||
| In the war room, they focus on the price of gold and the 10-year bond, right? | ||
| The 10-year bond is getting up to five. | ||
| You're seeing a total kind of rejection. | ||
| It hasn't become a rout yet, but rejection by the global bond market on the Biden regime's That's exactly right, Steve. | ||
| And on top of that, you know, another added complication here is the fact that... | ||
| Can't for the life of me understand why a Republican-controlled House at the time did this. | ||
| But between the Republican-controlled House and the Democrat White House, they have left President Trump, the incoming administration, also with a debt ceiling as well. | ||
| And look, it's not that we hate the debt ceiling. | ||
| We like any kind of measure that's going to keep down government spending. | ||
| But the problem is the debt ceiling as we have it today is completely divorced from spending. | ||
| So Congress gets to vote in all of the spending they want. | ||
| And then they always have some kind of crisis where they say, oh, no, we need to raise the debt ceiling. | ||
| Whereas before it used to be before World War I, you had to vote to increase the debt ceiling at the same time you voted for the increase in spending. | ||
| But whatever the case, Treasury markets are getting into a whole lot of turmoil. | ||
| And this is something that We've actually predicted on this show for well over a year now that this was the direction we are heading. | ||
| And we are basically getting to a point where markets no longer believe the Fed. | ||
| They no longer believe the talking points from Janet Yellen that... | ||
| You know, the Treasury market continues to be deep and liquid, easily tradable. | ||
| That's just not the reality anymore. | ||
| There is too much government debt out there, and the private market can't sustain it all, certainly not when they have alternatives. | ||
| And the problem is that the only way the Treasury can continue to attract more capital, in other words, continue to get bondholders, investors, to give the Treasury more money, to lend them more money. | ||
| Is if the Treasury gives higher and higher yields on their bonds, and the result of all this is making the debt even more expensive to finance. | ||
| We're looking at $1.2 trillion in interest on the debt this year, and that's before we get even higher yields. | ||
| The repricing. | ||
| Can you hang on for a second? | ||
| I want to hold you through the next break. | ||
| What he's talking about in this kind of crowd is that not only did the government treasuries have to go up, This is what we're saying about the inflation kind of being embedded in the refinancing of the $36 trillion. | ||
| This is the first time I think the American people have a great awakening that, hey, these deficits in debt actually have an impact on me. | ||
| It's going to be a lot more in the future. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Back in the warm in a moment. | ||
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| E.J. and Tony. | ||
| For the audience, because look, audience, let's go back. | ||
| The three lines of work that President Trump has to deal with right away is the kinetic part of the Third World War, principally Ukraine and the Middle East. | ||
| I think Ukraine may be at the top of the heap there. | ||
| You've got the deportations and the deportations have to take place and everything related to the immigration and all that. | ||
| That's why we're not just the executive orders on the days of thunder that officially start next Monday with the executive orders and other things that Tom Homan and Stephen Miller are going to do. | ||
| Also, maybe some legislation coming up if you do two bills instead of one, which I think will be the reality. | ||
| But as I say, the existential part is the debt and the deficit. | ||
| And you have come on, and Scott and Peter used to do it before they actually went to the administration and talked about how Janet Yellen's been playing games. | ||
| She's been financing this stuff short term. | ||
| Just so the American people understand it, it is, this is not free. | ||
| When people talk about deficits and debt, it's not free anymore. | ||
| U.S. Sension, I think the math, roughly every household has like a $240,000 second mortgage already on it. | ||
| That's adding to the inflation the whole time. | ||
| I think every person's over $100,000. | ||
| And now they're just playing games. | ||
| And we said at the beginning, the bond market is going to have a vote here eventually. | ||
| And they're starting to wake up that all the past sins of the Biden regime are coming home to ruse. | ||
| And unfortunately, this is just going to be another reality that President Trump and Scott Bessent are going to be the team that's left to deal with it, sir. | ||
| Exactly, Steve. | ||
| And look, sometimes some of these numbers, when we're dealing with trillions, everyone's eyes kind of glaze over. | ||
| It's difficult to really get your head around it. | ||
| Even when we talk about things like a second mortgage of $200,000, $300,000, sometimes it's hard to get our head around it. | ||
| So I want everyone in the war room posse to do the following exercise. | ||
| Get your most recent pay stub and see how much you paid in personal federal income taxes and realize that half of that, half, 50%, 50% of what you pay in personal income taxes to the federal government is used just to service the debt, not pay down the debt, just the interest on the debt. | ||
| That's how bad the situation is today, and it's getting worse, not only because we're continuing to spend too much money and grow that debt, so we're continuing to need more money to finance it, but also interest rates now are rising because of exactly what you just mentioned, and it is an absolute mess. | ||
| Of what the Biden administration, particularly Janet Yellen, have done over the last couple of years have all been short-term fixes, essentially things that conveniently were there to get them past the election. | ||
| And now that that's done, all of those short-term measures need to be unwound. | ||
| Think of it in a personal context here. | ||
| Imagine you... | ||
| Rack up a ton of credit card debt, and it's all on those introductory APR credit cards. | ||
| In other words, you get 0% or only 1% or 2% interest rates for the first 12 months. | ||
| And so you go on a spending spree for your household, and you get all kinds of nice stuff. | ||
| Maybe you do some balance transfers, you get a new car, you do some vacations. | ||
| Eat out all the time, etc. | ||
| You rack up a ton of debt. | ||
| Now, the higher interest rates are kicking in as the introductory APRs are over. | ||
| So now, what do you need to do to get out of that mess? | ||
| Well, probably some kind of debt consolidation service. | ||
| And yes, you're going to have to pay a higher interest rate than the zero or one or two percent, but it's certainly better. | ||
| Then if you let those credit cards go up to 30 percent, which they will eventually. | ||
| So that's basically what Trump and Scott Bessent, what J.D. Vance, what their whole team have to deal with now at the Treasury. | ||
| They need to essentially roll over this debt and reconsolidate it at the lowest interest rates they possibly can. | ||
| And again, going back to what we talked about earlier with the debt ceiling, that makes that very difficult because there's now even less flexibility that the Treasury has. | ||
| We do want limits on government spending. | ||
| The problem is that this is just happening at the worst possible time for these folks. | ||
| But they know it. | ||
| That's just your alternatives. | ||
| Your range of alternatives start to tighten. | ||
| Like I said, all the easy decisions have been made. | ||
| Thank God we got President Trump. | ||
| I think it's $7 trillion we know already has to be refinanced in this coming year with Scott Besson. | ||
| It's going to be a Herculean task. | ||
| E.J., your social media is a great way to keep up with all that work. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Where do they go for your website? | ||
| How do people get to know you better? | ||
| Best place to find me is going to be on X. You'll see all the links, all my posts and everything there. | ||
| The handle is at Real EJAntoni. | ||
| Dr. Antoni, thank you very much. | ||
| Appreciate you coming on, making everything clear. | ||
| My pleasure. | ||
| The three big efforts, as we've talked about now for months, is ending the kinetic part of the Third World War, deportations. | ||
| Newt Gingrich is not having our back today. | ||
| They say the people that want to deport everybody are rabid. | ||
| Rabid. | ||
| Do you feel rabid? | ||
| I don't feel rabid. | ||
| It's logical. | ||
| It has to happen. | ||
| But, Mr. Speaker, we appreciate the thoughts, but no. | ||
| They all got to go. | ||
| The third is the debt and the deficit. | ||
| That's the kind of events that have to happen. | ||
| The things that are going to be worked on. | ||
| The ways you do it is get your team for the cabinet, your executive positions. | ||
| That's the confirmation process. | ||
| It'll start tomorrow. | ||
| Right to flood the zone. | ||
| Going to have 13 people stand up over the next couple days. | ||
| You've got the executive orders on the Days of Thunder next week. | ||
| They already have a schedule out. | ||
| There's going to be a presidential signing ceremony at the White House right in the middle of the afternoon, right when he gets back. | ||
| So it's already on the books, as we say. | ||
| And then the third is legislation. | ||
| There's one bill or two bills. | ||
| The Lincoln-Riley bill is going through right now. | ||
| But the big financial bills, one or two, that's all going to be worked out. | ||
| Action, action, action. | ||
| As President Trump steps into the role of the 47th President of the United States. | ||
| And my God, what a disaster he's stepping into. | ||
| And that doesn't even include California. | ||
| Which is, with the winds kicking back up and these incompetence, malfeasance, criminal negligence, all of it. | ||
| Stick around. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| And I mean short. | ||
| Like two minutes. |
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