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Jan. 11, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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WarRoom Battleground EP 684: Fire In LA Wakes People Up To The California Way; Rescuing Our Republic
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In the middle of Southern California's most catastrophic fire disaster, the ongoing question of how and why hydrants around Los Angeles are running dry.
Firefighters already stretched so thin are clearly frustrated.
This hydrant has no water.
What should the water pressure be right now, ideally?
I mean, you want 50 to 80 is your ideal hydrant pressure.
And what have you got?
I'm bouncing between 0 and 50. It's not a consistent pressure.
I think before I say anything else, it's important to say that multiple things can be true at the same time here.
And I say that because this issue is becoming a bit politicized.
Officials are saying right now, Chris, that there is arguably no system that could have been created that could have provided enough water to enough crews as they fought these fires simultaneously Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, because they had reservoirs that were drained simply because this is arguably a once-in-a-lifetime At least that's how they're portraying it.
That said, this system certainly deserves a closer look.
I spoke to firefighters here in Altadena today that have been fighting the Eaton Fire, and they say in the days since, removed from that initial intense firefight, that first 24 hours, they say they still don't have enough water pressure here, and that's now three, maybe four days later, Chris.
So that is the reality.
That is not politics talking, and that's why I think there is so much frustration.
Particularly from homeowners that we've heard who know that there was a hydrant.
On their street, if not in front of their house, that didn't perform when it needed to.
Of the Palisades, when you talk about water issues, one of the other bits of news that's been reported by the LA Times is the reservoir here in the Palisades.
It was empty at the time of the fires that were going through maintenance of that reservoir.
And what it would have helped with if that reservoir was full is not necessary access to that water, but the water pressure in the system here in the Palisades.
The Pacific Palisades, that once all these taps got turned on, the fire crews started trying to put out these fires, the pressure of having the water in the reservoir, and forgive me, I'm not, you know, an engineer on this, I might get some of the details wrong, but the pressure would have been better able to sustain itself.
That being said, the LA Times is also reporting that officials, or reporting that experts said that it probably wouldn't have made that big of a difference in totality, that this fire was just a...
It's been exceptional.
Exceptionally powerful fire.
And that the winds were really helping it along.
That there's no amount of fire.
There were no fire crews that could have feasibly gotten this thing under control, given the conditions.
And I think that's just a hard reality for folks to face.
And they're going to want to have some more concrete answers.
They're going to want to have somebody to blame for all of this.
And they're going to ask very difficult and fair questions.
And they already are of the Los Angeles.
The New Angeles City government about the response, whether they were prepared, whether there was water, whether the municipal system needs to be upgraded and bolstered, given the world we now live in, with climate change and these fires burning faster and hotter.
And, you know, there used to be a fire season here in L.A., but they're in California.
But it's all year now.
The Times is reporting the reservoir up in the hills up here.
The one that serves the Palisades was empty.
Why?
I'm not a hydraulics expert, but our firefighters were pumping millions of gallons of water.
The system's designed to be able to handle so much water.
And even for brush fires, it was set up to handle a brush fire.
But this was the brush fire of fire.
But it was empty before the brush fire started.
Well, what happens is, at the beginning...
At night, this is a gravity-fed system.
At night, there's tanks that sit above this community, and they fill up with water.
And as the day progresses, the tank is feeding the pressure into this neighborhood.
And so folks shower up, shave, water their community, their gardens, etc.
And they use water.
In addition to people with their garden hoses wetting up their roofs, wetting up their homes, trying to make them more resistant to the fire.
The firefighters were in here.
We had a lot of fire companies in here, and they're all drawing water at the same time.
If it was full, would that have changed?
No.
Why?
No.
The capacity, the amount of pressure, the amount of water that was flowing was way beyond the capability of the system.
I ask you, we've got to deal with this misinformation.
There are hurricane force winds of mist and disinformation lies.
People want to divide this country, and we're going to have to address that as well.
And it breaks my heart as people are suffering and struggling that we're up against those hurricane forces as well.
And that's just a point of personal privilege that I share that with you because it infects real people.
That are out there.
People I meet every single day.
People the mayor's been meeting with.
And they're having conversations that are not the typical conversations you'd have at this time.
And you wonder where this stuff comes from.
And it's very damaging as well.
But we're here to get the job done.
Did the city of Los Angeles fail you and your department and our city?
It's my job to stand up as a chief and exactly say...
Justifiably, what the fire department needs to operate to meet the demands of the community.
Did they fail you?
That is our job, and I tell you, that's why I'm here.
So let's get us what we need so our firefighters can do their jobs.
Did they fail you?
Yes.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, welcome to the second hour of the War Room.
It's Friday, 10 January, in the year of our Lord, 2025. Second hour of the late afternoon, early evening show.
The event that we're all planning for and we're going to start doing our critical path in the run-up to in the next 10 days, the historic inauguration of President Trump on the 20th at high noon.
As everybody in the war room posse and all the cadres, we understand that's the initiation of action where President Trump's actually in control, although he's been kind of in control since Election Day because with all international leaders, everybody, business leaders, I mean, I've never seen a pivot like this in my entire business leaders, I mean, I've never seen a pivot like this And who else sees it is Mike Allen and Jim Vanderhay over at Axios, who are the two most, you know, the guys are looking for those trends so they can talk to their corporate clients about it.
They just had this piece yesterday that I put up on Getter, if you want to go find it, called, I refer to it as Full Spectrum Dominance.
Actually, Mike Allen later saw it up on Getter and, you know, commented that that was a better title than they had.
So we're hurtling towards that, but there is a hinge moment, a major pivot.
At Amfest, I can't tell you how many great people came up and how many people came into Amfest.
You know, we sold the War Room Posse.
Thousands and thousands of War Room Posse members were there, you guys, for the live shows, everything at AmFest.
And a good portion of those came from California.
And people were coming, Steve, we've got to have a meeting.
You know, you take these meetings afterwards, you've got a meeting.
We have to turn California red.
And having lived in California, one as a naval officer, and then later...
With Moe's mom, we moved back there from New York after I'd finished Harvard and worked at Goldman Sachs and went out there to basically work for Goldman Sachs and start my own firm.
Moe was, I think, went out there at like three months old.
So she's really a California girl.
So we know and love the state very much.
And I said, look, it's too far gone.
The apparatus there is too dug in.
It's too far gone.
Yes, I realize we're closing it.
Trump's making a huge thing.
But with all these other opportunities, you have to kind of make decisions about opportunity costs, where you spend your time.
This event is, obviously it's biblical, but now, because you have to realize, and that's why Katie Turr is so important to watch her.
If you've been following Katie, they had—I think she's from the Alphabet Avenues in Palisades, Pacific Palisades.
And Pacific Palisades is this quaint little old village with homes, basically kind of classic California homes, kind of pre-World War II, post-World War II. Ronald Reagan and Nancy used to live there.
It's not ostentatious.
It's not Beverly Hills with the big mansions, or it's not some of the other places in L.A.'s Homeby Hills or— You know, certain areas of Brentwood.
This is a very low-key place, but with tons of celebrities, but mainly celebrities who are on the lower-key side of things.
But super progressive.
Super progressive.
And, you know, kind of a mini-railhead out there of, you know, the Rachel Maddow set and the Know-It-All set and everything.
And that's why they had a thing of Katie Tur interviewed a guy who had been her next-door neighbor.
They'd been one of their playmates in the alphabet streets.
In Pasadena, Pacific Palisades is gone.
It looks like it's worse than Dresden in 1945. It looks like the firebombing of Kyoto or Tokyo.
The worst bombing we ever did, low-altitude napalm.
Curtis LeMay and the team, right?
Worse than, quite frankly, even the nuclear weapon, the firebombing of Tokyo, the firebombing of Kyoto.
That's what Palisades looks like.
And you said they go, how could that possibly happen?
Well, I kept asking this because we were watching the coverage all night.
I said, you know, you don't see a lot of firemen.
And when you see firemen, you don't see a lot of water.
What's happening?
I realize they're going house to house, but, man, you've got to put up some kind of effort, and these firemen are incredibly brave.
It was about deployments.
Now, Gavin Newsom, for all his happy talk, is cornered.
He just, as we came on here, he's announced he's going to now have a formal investigation into the reservoir and the fire hydrants.
Now, it's all gravity.
And this is the woman the other night.
Remember, on this show, I said, this doesn't make sense.
They had these tanks of a million gallons each, but something feeds into the tanks.
She's just giving the time.
Very official.
The one gallon ran out here.
The gallon ran out there.
The other million gallon ran out there.
And it's just like, that answers the question.
Lady, that doesn't answer anything.
Thank you.
I needed that.
I needed that thing in the middle.
I wasn't pepped up enough.
I said...
The million, you know, for the tanks, the million here, the million there, the three tanks that ran out, lady, you're burying the lead.
The water that came, where the water come to fill the tanks, and why weren't they continuously filled as water went out?
And she's making $750,000 a year, and now she's being crushed on social media.
She is a moron.
But there had to be something else I didn't know, because I don't know the water system of Pacific Palisades or...
L.A. Maybe I should.
I'm a big fan of Chinatown.
That's all about water.
Posobiec played that the other day on the Posobiec show.
And now we finally know it.
It's a reservoir up atop that has 117 million gallons.
Yo, that gravity feeds down.
I don't know the exact interconnections, but that was empty for cosmetic changes, supposedly, to some roof.
And now Newsom's been backed in the corner.
Here's the point.
As the war room posse continues to dig and looking for receipts, all kinds of things are popping up all the time.
Newsom's being backed into a corner, and Katie Turr right there, you're seeing Progressive America.
It's totally been destroyed.
Their lives have been destroyed.
She's kept going on.
We had to cut away from it, but she talks about the families, and you go to the schools, and there's no school, and Christchurch.
And I knew one of my business partner's wives was a teacher at Christchurch.
It's all gone.
All the schools are gone.
The grocery stores are gone.
The little village library is gone.
It's all gone.
The houses are gone.
Katie Turner goes back to the Alphabet streets where she was raised as a little child and has all these relationships and friends.
And now half the friends have taken over the house.
They all live there.
Mo's got, I think, five or six of her friends from prep school down the street.
Home's gone.
And as that sinks in that it's gone, and how do you have it?
This is what progressive politics and political correctness all gets you.
Right there, I get you.
And now they're going to demand accountability.
And now when they're forced to demand accountability, you're going to see a moment in time, a moment in time where people can have their own awakening.
Now you have to be empathetic about this.
They're traumatized.
It's horrible to think, but you're going to have suicides their entire life of that village.
Which has this tremendous kind of social life is gone and it's never coming back.
It'll never be what it was.
And people are just dawning.
I woke up in the morning.
It was a beautiful day.
And yes, the wind was high.
And then 48 hours later, it's all gone.
And they're not going to ask unfair questions.
They're going to say, how did this happen?
It's just not a fire, did it?
It's a fire, did it, and there was no preparation.
And it turns out things weren't there.
There's no ward of the hydrants.
And Bass and the mayor and these people just blow you off.
Finally, the fire chief, the critically correct lesbian fire chief, says, yeah, the city failed us.
You're going to see the buck passing.
And Gavin Newsom, to save his political career, is finally coming out and saying, President Trump's hammering this guy.
But he's not hammering him because he wants to hammer somebody.
He's hammering the guy for a reason.
What are the answers?
Why was there no water?
What happened to the hydras?
People pay these taxes.
They live in there thinking, as we said, that social structure's underneath you.
In progressive left, it's not.
It's not.
It's not there for you.
It's to get in your face.
Oh, you're a bad person.
You're evil.
You have privilege.
Privilege this.
It's gone.
As those people go through the trauma, and it is traumatizing, you're going to have psychological problems coming out of this.
You're going to have the problems with children.
Just are.
You're going to have suicides coming out of this.
You're going to have bankruptcies coming out of this.
Remember, the whole thing is that they don't even pay the people who can't get insurance anymore.
And the fund's going to go bankrupt.
They're going to look for a bailout.
This is going to be a national debate.
But the people in California have it within themselves to make these changes.
You don't need the war room for this.
You don't need the war room posse for this.
You need yourselves for this.
You've got to dig and get the answers of how this happened and who is responsible.
And once you get those answers, you'll take action.
I think like we've had it in the pandemic.
How many former liberals do we have, progressives do we have since the pandemic, are coming to our side?
How many...
You know, moms were not with us when the pandemic started that kind of woke as they saw what the kids are being taught and the public health officials become like the brown shirts.
How many about the financial situation?
Over and over again, every issue comes up, more people are coming to our side and say, well, hang over a second, I can think this through.
That is what's going to happen in California.
This is a major event.
It's a major event.
And we all have to come together to think this thing through.
This is what happens when you have ossified one-party rule, dictatorial rule.
You know what you end up with?
You end up with Bass as mayor.
You end up with those fire chiefs.
You end up with Gavin Newsom.
And Gavin Newsom all set to run his presidential campaign.
Remember, he's going to show you the California way.
It's going to be MAGA versus Newsom 28. That's what he thinks, right?
The Trump program, the Trump economic nationalism, the Trump America first foreign policy.
The Trump sovereignty, right, of our country so that illegal aliens have to go home.
Versus the California way, where you're seeing the California way right there.
And there's so much more that's happened today with the alerts coming out, mechanical.
This thing is a mess, and I'm telling you, I know so many people out there, they're beyond anxious right now.
They're, like, scared.
Like, what is going on here, and who's in charge?
Okay, we're going to have more about this on every day, and Natalie's going to do, you know, Natalie's home had to be evacuated, so.
Let's play.
I want to go now the California way.
You want to talk about a despicable human being?
It's Zuckerberg.
Zuckerberg, you can take all the martial arts classes you want.
You can go UFC. You can get Dana White.
You can be your best buddy.
Get him on the board.
You can hang out with him.
You can go to the UFC fights.
You can sit ringside.
You're another man-child.
We've had nerd rule.
We saw what nerd rule was about stealing the election, and we saw what nerd rule was during the pandemic.
And guess what?
This country does not want nerd rule and not going back to it.
We're not going to let people like you call the shots.
You put $400 million, $450 million off to steal the election.
And I believe strongly, sir, as the vast criminal conspiracy investigation, which has got to go back to 2020. Yes, I know certain people don't want to hear it, but it's got to happen.
I believe that you'll be charged with crimes, sir.
I do.
Yep.
But there'll be a full investigation.
And your million dollars as a supplicant tomorrow is not going to mean anything.
Right?
It's a disgrace to give you VIP seating at the thing.
Remember, the base hates you.
Despises you.
You're revolting for what you did to this country.
I want to play.
Do we have a cold open?
We can see this little worm with Joe Rogan.
Let's see him about, you know, being so overwhelmed.
And I'll come back at the end of this clip.
mark zuckerberg ▲ ● ▼
But it was really in the last 10 years.
That people started pushing for, like, ideological-based censorship.
And I think it was two main events that really triggered this.
In 2016, there was the election of President Trump, also coincided with, basically, Brexit in the EU and sort of the fragmentation of the EU. And then, you know, in 2020, there was COVID. And I think that those were basically these two events where,
for the first time, we just faced this massive, massive institutional pressure to basically start censoring content on ideological grounds.
unidentified
I'm sorry to interrupt you, but when it first came up in 2016, did it come under the guise of the Russian collusion hoax?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, and this is the thing.
mark zuckerberg ▲ ● ▼
At the time, I was really sort of ill-prepared to kind of parse what was going on, right?
It's, you know, I think part of my reflection looking back on this is I kind of think in 2016 and the aftermath, I gave too much deference to...
A lot of folks in the media who are basically saying, okay, there's no way that this guy could have gotten elected except for misinformation.
People can't actually believe this stuff, right?
It has to be that there's this kind of like massive misinformation out there.
Some of it started with the Russia collusion stuff, but it kind of morphed into different things over time.
unidentified
He was so ideologically polarizing, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼
Like people didn't want to believe that anybody looked at him and said, this should be our president.
mark zuckerberg ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, so I took this and just kind of assumed that everyone was acting in good faith.
And I said, okay, well, there's like, there are concerns about misinformation.
We should, just like when people raised other concerns in the past and we tried to deal with them.
Okay, yeah, people, you know, if you ask people, no one says that they want misinformation.
So maybe there's something that we should do to basically try to address this.
So at the beginning, it kind of seemed like, okay.
We should give a little bit of deference to the government and the health authorities on how we should play this.
But when it went from, you know, two weeks to flatten the curve to, you know, in the beginning it was like, okay, there aren't enough masks, masks aren't that important, to then it's like, oh no, you have to wear a mask, and everything was shifting around.
It's become very difficult to kind of follow, and this really hit the most extreme, I'd say, during...
It was during the Biden administration when they were trying to roll out the vaccine program.
And I'm generally pretty pro-rolling out vaccines.
I think on balance, the vaccines are more positive than negative.
But I think that while they're trying to push that program...
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, I can't take this guy anymore.
I may have to do something because I would like to sit in a deposition.
Zuckerberg, you're one of the worst people in this country.
We are not going to turn this country back over to you nerds.
Everything you said there's kind of a lie, and here's why I know this.
When you talk Brexit and Trump, I was there.
Nigel Farage on the morning after Brexit said if we did not have Breitbart London and Raheem Kassam and Steve Bannon with Breitbart London, there wouldn't have been a Brexit.
Because the reason I started Breitbart London was because of years before of what it would culminate in Brexit.
Why?
Because the Daily Telegraph, the conservative paper, they were wimps.
They were controlled opposition.
You needed a hammer.
In Raheem Kassam, we had a hammer.
In James Dellingpole, the great James Dellingpole, we had a hammer.
That's why I started it.
And the 2016 campaign.
This started long before that.
Everything he said right there is a lie.
That's all spin.
This started much earlier than that, back in 2015. Remember he got all the conservative guys together except for Breitbart?
Because they were rising in power and we were using Facebook.
Now we had to kind of buy ads, but we used it.
That's where later he got so much grief.
How did you let Breitbart become so powerful?
Hey dude, we thought your system through better than you.
And then...
He left out one thing.
You know, it was Brexit and Trump.
And, you know, I didn't think Trump should win.
I heard the authorities said it was 2020. Excuse me, it was the pandemic in 2020. You left out one big thing, dude.
What'd you leave out, Mark?
Rogan, if you knew the deal.
What'd you leave out, Zuckerberg?
Zuck.
What'd you leave out?
Oh, the 2020 election.
Put up the hill.
We were banned and taken down.
I remember, we built this show off of Facebook.
It was one AM radio station, our Facebook account, and then Real America's Voice picked us up back in 2019. Facebook was essential to actually getting the message out at the time.
We were banned on the 11th day of, the 10th day of November.
Oh, let me think.
3 November.
Yeah, it was a week.
A week.
From putting out false information.
Everything we said, dude, was about the stint of that election that was stolen.
And that's why you took us down.
And that's why you tried to shut everybody up.
After you spent $450 million of your own money to defeat Trump.
Zuckerberg, we've forgotten more about your acts than you even remember.
You are guilty, sir.
I think of crimes, major crimes.
But certainly major civil litigation.
And now you're just going to sit there, you think you write a million dollar check and you know you're in Mar-a-Lago and you have a meeting.
I fought.
This is the first big fights with Jared Kushner and myself in 2017. I didn't want this guy near the war.
They started rolling all these guys in to come in and see the president of the Oval Office.
I fought it.
They're bad people.
They're evil people.
It's nerd rule.
They're all on the spectrum.
They don't think like normal human beings.
They're not empathetic.
They're all kind of sociopaths.
The only thing about how much money they created, they don't know how to interact.
They're all weird.
Get that blank stare.
Now he's all macho.
He's taking his kung fu.
What's he taking?
Kung fu.
He's going to UFC fights.
He's walking in.
He's got Dana White on the board.
Doesn't change it.
Does not change it, man.
Does not change it.
You're a nerd.
You're a nerd.
You want nerd rule.
Can't happen.
Populous economics deals with breaking all these companies up.
Google, broken up.
Twitter, broken up.
Him, Facebook, broken up.
You've got to take this power, this concentrated political power they have, because they're monopolies.
Should be no monopolies.
Break it up and let entrepreneurs, let a thousand flowers bloom.
If we don't do that, these are big fights, I understand.
People say, Ben, nobody supports your raising taxes on the thing.
You know, one of the reporters went around the house yesterday.
There weren't a lot of guys saying, yeah, we'd love that.
There's not a lot of them going to support doing this.
I got it.
I've started a lot of projects when nobody was there.
We're going to break these guys up.
We have to bring them to the knees.
They're too powerful.
They're sociopaths.
They're liars.
They want to control this country and they think that working class and middle class people, they think the citizens of this country are nothing but garbage and trash.
Or digital, just digital beings that you can just take their data and monetize it and give a fare thee well.
This is the great fight we have in front of us, folks.
It's okay.
It's a fight I relish.
I'm down for it.
Big.
And if that's what we've got to face, wimps like that, you can hire all the lawyers in the world, all the investment bankers in the world, all the media consultants in the world.
Hire them all.
Give a damn.
Hire it all.
Because we're coming and we're going to break it all up.
Let's see how tough they are then.
Stone cold lies.
Write to Rogan.
Stone cold lies.
Disgusting.
Short break.
unidentified
Okay, folks. folks.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I want to give you a situation update, a SITREP situation report.
Caitlin Collins just came across a few minutes ago on Twitter.
President Biden says he hasn't made a final decision on preemptive blanket pardons, but is considering it given what Trump has been saying in recent days.
This is two folks, and we've targeted them, definitely.
Benny Thompson, Fauci, and Liz Cheney.
We're not going to back off.
Give all the pardons you want.
We'll figure out a way to work around it.
They can run, but they can't hide.
You can give all the medals you want.
You can give all the awards you want.
Fauci, Cheney, Benny Thompson, who knows?
He's kind of a clown.
But Cheney and Fauci, got to.
We have to.
We have to, for the good of this Republican, particularly going forward, you've got to do it.
You have to do it.
You have to do it.
I've got a book now by Hans Monke.
The Swift Boating of America.
It's by Tony Lyons.
It's put out by Tony Lyons and the team at Skyhorse.
Hans, you tie together the Russian dossier, the dossier I talked about earlier, talking about the Russiagate, the hoax, all of it.
Why do you call it the swift boating of America, sir?
unidentified
That's a really good question.
So the book's idea is to memorialize.
You know, I wrote this before we knew that Trump was going to be reelected.
Of course, now everything is much better.
But at the time, the idea was to memorialize, what do we know about the Russia hoax?
And there's over 600 footnotes, mainly to primary sources.
So for someone one day to just be able to access all that information, what really happened?
What do we know?
And so one of the things we know is what the Hillary Clinton campaign called this.
So they didn't call it, you know, Russia or anything like that.
What they called it was they called it the Swift Boat Project.
So there's an email from February of 2016. Within the campaign, and by the way, this email came out through WikiLeaks, and in that email, campaign operatives are discussing this project, the Russiagate project, the Russia collusion hoax, and they called it the Swift Boating Project.
So that's where the name came from.
And of course, some people might say, well, you know, that ties in with John Kerry in 2004 and so on, and that's true.
But of course, you've got to remember, the Clinton people called it that, and they wouldn't have been happy with what happened to John Kerry in 2004. So in other words, they're admitting that the whole thing was a total smear from the beginning in their own minds.
And anyway, that's where the name came from.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay.
But what happened here?
What's the process of—look, I happen to think the swift burning of John Kerry was— Not just smart, it was a way to get to the truth, right?
It was a way to get to the truth, because it was on both sides.
I actually had a company that put out the film about, it was a pro-film about him going upriver.
The Swift-Boney thing, I think, was absolutely appropriate, because it showed the other side of the story.
There's two ways to tell the story, the John Kerry way, it's the other way.
The other way, I thought, was very powerful, and I think it opened up John Kerry to a lot of powerful criticism, and it showed something about his character that you could see on the campaign trail.
So I thought it was very powerful.
How does that tie back directly to the Russia hoax, the dossier, all of that?
unidentified
It was certainly very effective back in 2004. And Democrats would have not been very happy with it because he lost.
So for them to then make up this hoax...
And I think the most important thing to remember about this entire Russia collusion hoax is that it was entirely made up.
Everything was made up.
You know, normally there's like some kernel of truth and then you build on that and you exaggerate and all that.
That's not the case here.
This hoax was 100% fabricated by the Clinton people.
And, well, They called it that because they knew it was fabricated just as they thought, never mind what we think, they thought the Kerry thing was unfair.
So they were doing that to Trump.
And in short order, so the book kind of details what happened after that.
So that's kind of the origin of the name.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hang on.
But hang on.
Slow down.
What do you mean it's 100% hoax?
I can sit here and show you thousands of hours.
Of MSNBC and CNN and experts and people with knitted brows thinking great thoughts.
I mean, tens of thousands of hours of mainstream and New York Times, Washington Post, article after article after article, where they're sitting there talking about the details of it and the implications of it and all these different aspects of it and everybody's involved with it.
I spent millions of dollars of my own money defending myself in front of the Mueller Commission.
Right?
And then the House Intelligence Committee was a shifty shift.
Right?
And then the Senate Intelligence Committee.
I got the receipts to show that.
So if it was a hoax, you're saying I should go, I legitimately can go back and start suing people?
Is this a 100% hoax?
None of it was true?
That MSNBC, the Roberts family that owns NBC, that CNN and John Malone, I guess he just recently bought it, but you're saying he bought a big liability?
If you're saying it's a 100% hoax...
Then don't Flynn and Bannon and all the people rolled up in this thing that spent millions of dollars in defense of themselves and their names, right, and actually from criminal charges because that's what they wanted to do, and President Trump, that we all have the basis to go back and sue and get our money back plus damages, sir?
unidentified
Well, absolutely, and you should do that.
And what they did to you is horrific.
What they did to General Flynn is absolutely horrific.
And yes, everything was invented.
The entire thing was made up.
And I mean, the book details exactly how that worked.
So starting in February of 2016, when they came up with the project name, and then they hired this lawyer, Mark Elias, and then he got these computer people to make up a fake data trail, totally fake, to try and show that Trump was talking to Putin.
All of it made up.
And then, of course, the part that everyone knows about, they hired this guy, Steele.
But they didn't hire him to do any research or to find out anything.
I mean, they keep saying he's this Russia expert.
He hadn't been in Russia for like 30 years or something like that.
He'd been there like in the early 90s or so.
And that was it.
So they just hired him because of the label.
They could just call him like this former British spy or whatever.
And then he says this.
But he didn't come up with these stories himself.
Clinton operatives told him what to write, and he just wrote it in his own words, and then he gave them a report, and then they used those reports to feed them to the media and, of course, to feed them into the FBI. All of it was made up.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And Comey knew it was made up at the time.
So you had movies.
You just had Jeff Daniels on the other day.
Jeff Daniels played Comey.
He's on Ari Melbert, thinking great thoughts, talking about they have a clip from him playing Comey.
Comey wrote a book.
Steele just came out with a book.
Steel just came out of the book with a name publisher saying that everything was true and all the work he did on the investigative work.
Are you saying that that book's a lie?
unidentified
The whole thing.
Everything.
Anyone who claims that any of this was true is lying.
None of it was true.
In terms of the dossier, we can say this very specifically.
Nothing, nothing in the dossier has ever, ever checked out.
Obviously, you know, a name of a city will check out or name a person.
Yeah, that person exists.
But everything else, like what that person did or where they went or who they talked to, everything was entirely made up.
And there's two really important things.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hang on for a second.
Are you saying when McCabe and those guys, when Crossfire Hurricane, when they went and got the FISA warrants, they got all these warrants and did all this stuff, that they knowingly, they knew this was all made up at the time?
Comey knew it.
McCabe knew it.
The people associated with this knew it was made up?
unidentified
Exactly.
And there's two main...
Kind of events that everyone needs to know about because they are just so earth-shatteringly bad.
The first one is July 28th, 2016, before all these FISA's, before all these investigations, before Crossfire Hurricane, before any of it.
They found out, or they were told, by they I mean the FBI, Comey, McCabe, and so on, that this was a Clinton campaign hoax.
This whole Russia collusion narrative was a Clinton campaign hoax.
So the CIA passed along that information.
Why did they do that?
Well, they did it secretly, privately.
I think it was a C. Why A on their part to do that?
That's event one.
Event two, a few months later, the so-called primary subsource of Steele, the guy—so Steele said, well, I didn't really find any of this out.
I had this other guy who gave me all this information.
Well, the FBI got to that guy, and they interviewed him, and he admitted that it was all baseless, all of it.
So they had these two massive— Stunning.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
How do people get to the—where do they get to this book?
You lay it all out there.
I was just testing you and trying to push back because you've laid it out very succinctly.
Other people have taken cracks at it, but you lay it very succinctly.
It's either one thing or the other.
Here, it's not about shades of gray or misinterpretation or people.
It's ill-intentioned.
And here's the thing.
It's ill-intentioned from the beginning.
They knew what they were doing.
This speaks to a bigger topic.
Why are they so afraid of Trump?
Why are they so afraid of Trump and this kind of gang of pirates around him?
You know, General Flynn and Steve Bannon and these others.
Why are they so afraid of?
Here's what they're afraid of.
Because we're relentless.
And in 2024, 10 days from today...
Donald John Trump is going to take the oath of office as the 47th president of the United States, and his team this time is much more battle-hardened, okay?
They feared Trump for a reason.
They knew he was an existential threat.
They knew that he was an armor-piercing shell, what I call a blunt force instrument that would deliver blunt force trauma to the system, and he has.
So they did at any cost.
So when they sit there and weissman these guys to rule out, this is why it needs to be.
With this book, it's great.
But what we need is a special prosecutor that has subpoena power, can pound a grand jury, and all the information eventually has to be put out in front of the American people.
If more information, you put it all out in front of the American people, but you adjudicate it in an official way.
That's the only thing that's going to stop this.
And you have to do it.
We cannot just sit there and let this go.
It would be very easy for people to say, just move on.
We've got other things to focus on.
You can't.
You must get to the bottom of this.
Nothing personal.
I've already spent the money.
I spent the time.
Nothing ended up happening at the end of the day.
It was brutal.
It was very expensive.
Angst.
You may lose a year or two of your life at the end of it.
For all the anxiety and the pressure and all that.
But hey, we powered through it.
President Trump powered through it.
Flynn powered through it.
The people around President Trump powered through it, okay?
And became battle-tested and battle-hardened and better.
But the people that did this, and they did it for their own self-aggrandizement, their own control of power, that's why McCabe, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, all have to go to prison and throw away the key.
We must show this republic.
We must show people to come later.
That what happened in a certain time period when people challenged a corrupt and incompetent and anti-American system, they got the ultimate pushback.
And guess what?
We won and they lost.
Hans, what's your social media?
Where do they go to your webpage?
I want people to get a hold of this book.
I understand maybe there's some pricing issues.
I'm talking to Tony Lyons right now.
But this book is a seminal work.
Where do they go?
unidentified
Well, just go to Amazon.
But yeah, it's published with Tony's firm, Skyhorse Publishing.
And yeah, I mean, I either go there, go to Skyhorse's website, or I guess Amazon's probably the easiest.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, brother.
Preacher, you got a social media account?
Do you do that, or are you off the grid?
unidentified
No, no.
But basically, since I started with this Russiagate, I've been on Twitter or now X. So it's just at my name, Hansmanke, H-A-N-S-M-A-H-N-C-K-E, just in one word, no spaces.
There you go.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Great work.
Look forward to having you back on.
I want to go through this one chapter and verse.
Total and complete hugs.
He brought up two important dates.
When they were told...
Because people are saying, hey, this thing's getting some momentum.
We've got to shut it down because we know it's all lies.
unidentified
That's the type of people you're dealing with.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So much going on.
Janet Yellen has kind of screwed up the balance sheet of the United States.
Not that we owe any money.
I don't know, like $37 trillion.
That's just the face amount.
That's just the face amount of the liability.
You've got contingent liability.
You've got things all over the place.
But because the way she financed it, kind of short term, Facing the next Secretary of Treasury is a minimum of $7 trillion that has to be refinanced.
I don't think that includes—I haven't done the math.
I don't think that includes the new deficits to come.
I think that's just what we got now.
Because I tell you, you know, I don't know, a third to a quarter has to be refinanced every year.
So I think that's $7 trillion scheduled.
What does that mean?
That means the BRICS nations still have something to complain about legitimately.
That's the decline in the purchase power of the dollar.
Now, President Trump is going to sort that out and turn it around, but it's going to take some effort.
It's going to take putting shoulder to the wheel.
In the interim, you need to know how we got here.
That's this theory called modern monetary theory.
You've got to get up to speed on it.
Go to birchgold.com slash band, and you get a free explanation, kind of our next installment on the end of the dollar empire.
More importantly, talk to Phillip and the team.
Phillip's going to be with us tomorrow, but I want you guys to build relationships with the people over Birch Gold.
Hey, even if you don't have the money or just you're not sure to do it now, you get to know people.
They give you information.
They spend time with you.
You start to get comfortable.
They start to understand this.
Remember, the one thing about this show we try to do is give you information to make your own decisions.
You're free men and free women.
One of the blessings of liberty is to make those decisions.
But you have to do it with as close to perfect information.
We try our best to get it out there.
Then you make your decision.
So folks at Birch Gold today, if you want to get stuff about the information about 401ks, IRAs, all that, just take your phone and text Bannon, that would be me, B-A-N-N-O-N, at 989898. Do it today.
John.
Can we play the...
I tell you what, we're going to play it on the out.
It's actually too long to play.
Maybe I'm going to play a minute.
Let's play a little bit of it now.
The great filmmaker is with us.
unidentified
Never bet against America.
Never bet against the American people, and never bet against Donald Trump.
He and we the people scored a decisive, too-big-to-rig electoral victory, against all odds.
Victory came in spite of a stacked deck, including the January 6th frame-up, multiple hoaxes, phony indictments, sham impeachments, and two assassination attempts.
Look what happened.
We, the people, enthusiastically fought for him, only to be shunned by family, friends, neighbors, and colleagues.
But we the people stood in line for hours to cheer on the man that we knew could deliver us from the disastrous policies, the censorship, and the tyranny of the left.
We cheered and we prayed for our country and for the health and safety of this man.
Now we shall revel in victory and celebrate the greatest comeback in American political history.
When you're short on your door A lot of people are short on dough thanks to Joe Biden.
They'll be happy to see him go and overjoyed to welcome back President Trump.
I just have to experience this moment in history in person, just as I did many years ago as a young TV news reporter in Washington, D.C. Yeah, back in the day, I was an eyewitness to history in the nation's capital, covering President Reagan's first inauguration in 1981. Ronald Reagan was sworn in after winning a landslide victory over Jimmy Carter and his four-year reign of error.
Today's challenges are different, but the recipe for success is not.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You've become an incredible filmmaker.
This film is a kickoff.
We're going to put a link up because we're running out of time.
By the way, I was there.
I showed up to work at the Pentagon the next day.
My brother, we went to the inauguration.
My brother really...
My younger brother partied pretty hard.
He was near Dean Martin and that crowd.
He saw that crowd that performed the night before.
That was inauguration.
The first time they did it on the west side of the Capitol, that beautiful view, all the other times on the east side of the Capitol, including President Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln, all the famous ones.
John, what are you doing here?
Where do people go?
How do they participate in your journey?
And I might say, I understand why local TV news is trying to change and become more like podcasts after seeing John as the younger version of John boring the hell out of me outside the IRS or something.
So where do people go?
Is this another one like you did the truckers?
You're going to go across country?
unidentified
This is...
The spirit of the truckers, the spirit of the people on the bridges when we went across the country, that's what I tried to capture in this preview piece.
And it's what I'm looking to get when we get to Washington.
So there's the rally the day before on the 19th, the inauguration on the 20th.
Me and my crews, I got a staff of about five people.
We'll be out there talking to people.
And then looking at the news, we're looking for executive actions on borders.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
John, hang on.
We'll get you back on the show tomorrow morning because I want to kick this off.
We're going to kick off the week.
We're going to do a bunch of events.
Where do people go in the interim?
I want to see this little film you put together.
It's about five minutes long.
It's great.
People get pumped up.
It's kind of the kickoff to the run-up of one of the most important days in American history.
20 January in the year of our Lord, 2025. Where do I go, John?
unidentified
Let's roll America.
Follow me at Let's Roll America on X, Truth Social, and Getter.
And if you've got a few cents to spare, I'm at GiveSendGo.com slash Let's Roll America 2025. But we're going to be talking to the people.
It's not about politics.
It's about the people.
And then we're going to be looking for reaction to the pardons.
I hope we get some pardons that day.
And I hope we get some good executive actions and you'll know.
Yep, yep.
For me, that's number one on the to-do list.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
20 January 2025 begins Days of Thunder.
John, we'll see you back here tomorrow morning.
And you'll see the audience back here, too.
10 a.m.
Eastern Standard Time.
Don't miss a minute of The War Room.
We're going to be lit all the way through 20 January and beyond.
See you tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
Eastern Standard Time when you will be back.
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