Jan. 8, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Participants
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| Negotiate a new treaty? | ||
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Are you going to ask the Canadians to hold the vote? | |
| What is the strategy? | ||
| I can't assure you. | ||
| You're talking about Panama and Greenland. | ||
| No, I can't assure you on either of those two. | ||
| But I can say this. | ||
| We need them for economic security. | ||
| The Panama Canal was built for our military. | ||
| I'm not going to commit to that now. | ||
| It might be that you'll have to do something. | ||
| Look, the Panama Canal is vital. | ||
| To our country. | ||
| It's being operated by China. | ||
| China. | ||
| And we gave the Panama Canal to Panama. | ||
| We didn't give it to China. | ||
| And they've abused it. | ||
| They've abused that gift. | ||
| It should have never been made, by the way. | ||
| Giving the Panama Canal is why Jimmy Carter lost the election, in my opinion. | ||
| More so, maybe, than the hostages. | ||
| The hostages were a big deal. | ||
| But if you remember, and nobody wants to talk about the Panama Canal, because, you know, it's inappropriate, I guess, because it's a bad part of... | ||
| Of the Carter legacy, but he was a good man. | ||
| Look, he was a good man. | ||
| I knew him a little bit, and he was a very fine person, but that was a big mistake. | ||
| Giving the Panama Canal to Panama was a very big mistake. | ||
| We lost 38,000 people. | ||
| It cost us the equivalent of a trillion dollars, maybe more than, probably the most expensive, they say it was the most expensive structure, if we call it a structure, which I guess you can, ever built. | ||
| Giving that away was a horrible thing. | ||
| And I believe that's why Jimmy Carter lost the election, even more so than the hostages. | ||
| Those two things. | ||
| We're going to be changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, which has a beautiful ring that covers a lot of territory. | ||
| The Gulf of America. | ||
| What a beautiful name. | ||
| And it's appropriate. | ||
| It's appropriate. | ||
| Listen, I don't care what he says. | ||
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You said you were considering military force to acquire Panama and Greenland. | |
| Are you also considering military force to annex and acquire Panama? | ||
| Economic force. | ||
| Because Canada and the United States, that would really be something. | ||
| You get rid of that artificially drawn line, and you take a look at what that looks like. | ||
| And it would also be much better for national security. | ||
| Don't forget, we basically protect Canada. | ||
| But here's the problem with Canada. | ||
| So many friends up there. | ||
| I love the Canadian people. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| But we're spending hundreds of billions a year to protect it. | ||
| We're spending hundreds of billions a year to take care of Canada. | ||
| We lose in trade deficits. | ||
| We're losing mass. | ||
| We don't need their cars. | ||
| You know, they make 20 percent of our cars. | ||
| We don't need that. | ||
| I'd rather make them in Detroit. | ||
| We don't need the cars. | ||
| We don't need their lumber. | ||
| We have massive fields of lumber. | ||
| We don't need their lumber. | ||
| We have to unrestrict them because stupid people put, you know, restrictions on, but I can do that with an executive order. | ||
| We don't need anything they have. | ||
| We don't need their dairy products. | ||
| We have more than they have. | ||
| We don't need anything. | ||
| So why are we losing 200 billion, as I call them, Governor Trudeau? | ||
| I said, listen, what would happen if we didn't subsidize you, if we didn't? | ||
| Because we give them a lot of money. | ||
| We help them. | ||
| As an example, we're buying icebreakers. | ||
| And Canada wants to join us in the buying of icebreakers. | ||
| I said, you know, we don't really want to have a partner in the buying of icebreakers. | ||
| We don't need a partner. | ||
| But... | ||
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No right. | |
| Nope. | ||
| No right. | ||
| Here's what we have. | ||
| We have a right not to help them with their financial difficulties because we owe $36 trillion, too. | ||
| We're going to start knocking it out pretty fast. | ||
| But we're going to be able to do it because of energy and other things. | ||
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Your position is clear, but have you directed your staff to take these specific actions to draw plans? | |
| And can you elaborate again? | ||
| You didn't rule out military coercion. | ||
| Well, we need Greenland for national security purposes. | ||
| I've been told that for a long time, long before I even ran. | ||
| I mean, people have been talking about it for a long time. | ||
| You have approximately 45,000 people there. | ||
| People really don't even know. | ||
| If Denmark has any legal right to it. | ||
| But if they do, they should give it up because we need it for national security. | ||
| That's for the free world. | ||
| I'm talking about protecting the free world. | ||
| You look at, you don't even need binoculars. | ||
| You look outside, you have China ships all over the place. | ||
| You have Russian ships all over the place. | ||
| We're not letting that happen. | ||
| We're not letting it happen. | ||
| And if Denmark wants to get to a conclusion, but nobody knows if they even have any right title or interest, the people are going to probably vote for independence or to come into the United States. | ||
| But if they did, if they did do that, then I would tariff Denmark at a very high level. | ||
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Door. | |
| Door. | ||
| The quickest way for Russia to penetrate our naval defenses is steaming from the Arctic to the North Atlantic. | ||
| This is our military presence in the Arctic. | ||
| These were Russia's Arctic military positions in 1995. Today, infantry, naval, radar, search and rescue, air defense, the biggest buildup since the Soviets fell. | ||
| This is where we lost Russia's most sophisticated submarines in the North Atlantic for three weeks. | ||
| This is where we found their Lasharik submarine, which we noticed only because it caught fire. | ||
| We have no idea how many more there are, but we think they're around here, here, here, and here. | ||
| This is Cregan. | ||
| You know what Cregan is? | ||
| A nuclear submarine base in Scotland. | ||
| All of the UK's nuclear weaponry is housed at Cregan. | ||
| It's what makes them one of the nine nuclear powers. | ||
| Also, it's the only base in Europe where we can dock our nuclear subs. | ||
| It's the last place we have any hope of detecting a Russian sub before it's in the vast Atlantic barreling toward New York. | ||
| Cregan is target one in the European theater of war. | ||
| The Scots hate nukes, and they hate English overreach. | ||
| But they really hate having a bullseye on their heads. | ||
| If Scotland had gone independent, they would have closed the base. | ||
| In a second. | ||
| When we took our forces out of Iceland, Russian subactivity skyrocketed, as did air incursions. | ||
| When we pulled our combat brigades from Europe, anyone? | ||
| Russia annexed Crimea. | ||
| Is there a universe in which the United States could afford to lose the base in Scotland? | ||
| No. | ||
| But you went to Margaret Roiland. | ||
| So did you. | ||
| I didn't ask her to blow up a ship. | ||
| Neither did I. It was supposed to be... | ||
| Some bent metal and nobody dead. | ||
| So it's not your fault? | ||
| It's entirely my fault. | ||
| You think I'm suggesting it's not my fault? | ||
| I own it, and I will carry it, but I will not let it tear down the president. | ||
| That sounds convenient to me. | ||
| That sounds like a reason to bury it. | ||
| I don't give a shit what it sounds like to you. | ||
| I can name every one of the 43 people who died in this debacle. | ||
| I couldn't do that if it was 40,000 or 40 million vaporized in a nuclear conflict. | ||
| This is my game board. | ||
| The whole goddamn thing. | ||
| This is yours. | ||
| Keep your eyes on your own paper. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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- Pray for our enemies. | |
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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Mega Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff. | ||
| It's Tuesday, 7th January, Year of the Lord 2025. | ||
| Jack Posobiec joins me. | ||
| Look, the last thing we're going to do is be taking off the focus of what we have to, of everything President Trump has to do and has to accomplish. | ||
| But today has Britain pretty extraordinary. | ||
| President Trump is not trying to change the conversation. | ||
| We know there are issues with what he said the other day with DACA. We know there's issues about this H-1B visas and American jobs. | ||
| We're on top of that, so we see. | ||
| We understand that. | ||
| But there's something, this is about the Western Hemisphere, it's about a geostrategic idea and concept, kind of the Monroe Doctrine on steroids. | ||
| I'm going to bring you Jack Posobiec. | ||
| Jack, right there, I want to thank, that's from Netflix, The Diplomat, and if you haven't had a chance to watch that, you really should. | ||
| That's Allison Janney, playing Secretary of State, and of course, Kerry Russell. | ||
| A very dramatic rendering, Jack, what you and I are taught as naval officers, the Greenland-Iceland-UK gap, which is the way that the Soviet submarine force, particularly the fast attacks and the boomers, come through that gap. | ||
| Greenland is massively strategic. | ||
| It was strategic in World War II. It's actually more strategic today. | ||
| President Trump blew away conventional thinking in Mar-a-Lago today. | ||
| You heard Vaughn Halyard saying, they're sitting there, these little guys, you're not being, you can't be serious. | ||
| He goes, oh yeah, I'm serious. | ||
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Well, you couldn't be serious about economic or military measures. | |
| He goes, yeah, I wouldn't rule that out. | ||
| Trump's blowing heads up in Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| Give me your assessment, sir, of Manifest Destiny 2.0. | ||
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Well, Steve, it's very clear... | |
| And by the way, the idea of the United States... | ||
| Taking control of Greenland, annexing Greenland, or entering into any kind of agreement, a territorial agreement with Greenland goes back a very long time. | ||
| Seward actually originally pursued this all the way back at the same time as pursuing the territory of Alaska, which then was controlled by the Russian Empire. | ||
| It even goes back to World War II when the exiled prime minister of Denmark actually signed the initial treaty with the United States regarding the defense of Greenland. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because the Nazis had occupied Denmark proper at the time. | ||
| That's why the U.S. was allowed into Greenland in the first place so that Nazi Germany would not be able to establish their bases there. | ||
| What Trump is doing is now taking this to the next logical step by saying, well, wait a minute. | ||
| The Chinese have this massive icebreaker fleet up in the Arctic. | ||
| The Russians are already establishing megaports up there. | ||
| People are talking about turning that into the polar silk road. | ||
| The rise of bricks represents a massive geostrategic rival to the United States when it comes to the economics of the situation. | ||
| And of course, all this goes back to Admiral Alfred Mahan and the understanding of the rise and the influence of sea power on history. | ||
| And if you understand sea power, I don't know if people want to talk about, yeah, memes are great and all, and there's resources there as well. | ||
| But again, this is about the influence of sea power, and it always has been. | ||
| He who controls the seas controls the world. | ||
| This was the entire premise of the British Empire, and the sun never sets. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying America needs to be imperial. | ||
| Far from it. | ||
| Things like Ukraine, things like the Middle East, that needs to be wound down. | ||
| But when we're talking about the very sea lanes that affect the economic well-being and prosperity of the American people who live here now. | ||
| Right now, control over those northern sea routes in the northwestern part of our hemisphere, or the northeastern, as well as the Panama Canal, clearly, clearly falls to us. | ||
| We're going to put that, there's a map that shows President Trump's vision of Make America Great. | ||
| There it is right there. | ||
| We're going to show that one going out all the way from the Panama Canal to Greenland. | ||
| I understand we've got a couple, three problems here at home. | ||
| We've got to figure out how to pay for everything. | ||
| But it's an expansionary vision in the Western Hemisphere and the protection of America first. | ||
| That's what's so stunning. | ||
| And he had a frank conversation with the American people today. | ||
| We're going to have one the second hour. | ||
| We're going to go from Rome to Switzerland to India to bring in some of the top geopolitical thinkers in the world and talk about what's going on. | ||
| That's what you see going on with the Chinese Communist Party, the KGB in Moscow, the Mullahs in Persia. | ||
| President Trump is countering geostrategically with a Mahanian theory all the way from the Panama Canal to Greenland. | ||
| And his conversation today with the media, you saw him choking. | ||
| Just blunt. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party controls the Panama Canal. | ||
| That was never the deal. | ||
| We didn't give it to Panama to give it away to somebody else. | ||
| Sorry, not sorry. | ||
| Pretty blunt talk. | ||
| Also, Robert Kagan at The Atlantic has one of the most outrageous pieces I've seen in a long time, and I see an outrageous piece every day. | ||
| Blaming President Trump. | ||
| Blaming President Trump for the coming defeat of Ukraine. | ||
| Saying it's a catastrophic defeat for Donald J. Trump. | ||
| Poso's with me. | ||
| We're talking strategy, national security next in the war room. | ||
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This is my game board. | |
| The whole God thing. | ||
| This is yours. | ||
| Keep your eyes on your own paper. | ||
| So Jack, right there from the diplomat, that's one of the best explanations of the strategic importance of Greenland in Iceland, what they call the Gaia Gap. | ||
| That chessboard, he's got Canada. | ||
| The president was having a serious conversation about, I don't know, emerging with Canada, having Canada. | ||
| He had a very lucid description of the money we put in, etc. | ||
| A very intelligent conversation on Greenland. | ||
| And the best of all was the Panama Canal. | ||
| The Panama Canal, he was quite blunt. | ||
| The Panama Canal, it was not built by the United States. | ||
| It was built for our military. | ||
| It was never built to have our existential threat enemy, the Chinese Communist Party, control it. | ||
| That's just not going to happen. | ||
| People in Panama have got to understand that things have got to change there, or there are going to be big changes. | ||
| Just like yesterday, some of the people in Central America are talking, some of the leaders there are saying they're not going to let the United States use their military bases if anybody's deported. | ||
| Hey, I got news for you. | ||
| And this is why I advise a summit in McAllen, Texas. | ||
| Bring everybody together. | ||
| Let's get them in a room. | ||
| Trump's a dealmaker. | ||
| Let's get everybody on the same page that this is happening, that deportation is going to happen, and there'll be some economic deals cut. | ||
| But if there's any kind of resistance, you're going to get tariffed. | ||
| You're going to get put into the ozone economically. | ||
| President Trump just said it there when Von Hilliard almost choked on his microphone and said, Mr. President, you're not serious. | ||
| I know you're not serious. | ||
| He goes, hey, I'm damn serious. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, your thoughts? | ||
| Well, Steve, it's, you know, and I say this, you know, you got a couple of Navy officers here, Posse. | ||
| So I say this as someone who actually served there. | ||
| But, you know, if these guys down in Central America or other parts of the Caribbean have an issue with the United States using their overseas bases, then why don't you go have a conversation about that with the Castro family? | ||
| Because they've been trying to kick us out of Guantanamo Bay since they came to power. | ||
| The United States is oldest overseas-based. | ||
| Ask you, well, it's in Guantanamo Bay. | ||
| Why is it? | ||
| Why is it that the very same territory that the Rough Riders ran roughshod over with Teddy Roosevelt leading the way there in the war against Spain in 1898, why has the United States maintained Guantanamo Bay for this long? | ||
| Because it is in our geostrategic and geopolitical interest to control the sea lanes of our own backyard. | ||
| The Gulf of America absolutely has to happen. | ||
| Maintaining dominance over... | ||
| The Caribbean absolutely has to happen. | ||
| And by the way, I'm not, and I say that because I include the Panama Canal. | ||
| Clearly, that is the key choke point here in this region, in the Northern Hemisphere. | ||
| But also because China has got, look, China has been going through on a buying frenzy across all of the Caribbean, running debt trap diplomacy. | ||
| They already practically own Jamaica. | ||
| Go and look at all of the other crowd calling, not to mention what their influence in Cuba, Venezuela, etc. | ||
| This is all. | ||
| We need to go back to the Monroe Doctrine. | ||
| We're not talking about democratizing the Middle East. | ||
| And by the way, the same people who sold you a bill of goods on the fool's errand of trying to democratize the Middle East and say we should go back to places like Afghanistan or get involved in Ukraine more, they're going to turn around and say that we shouldn't do anything to actually benefit the American people who live here now. | ||
| If you can put us on a split screen, Denver, and let's put that map up. | ||
| For the America First people, Jack and I are going to address right now changing the conversation because there are a number of the war room posse and others, the folks who watch Real America's Voice up on Getter, the Rumble crowd, the rough over in Rumble, that are really critical about changing the conversation. | ||
| But I want to put that chart up. | ||
| For the hardest core America First guys, if you want Fortress America, Trump's giving you Fortress America. | ||
| Look at that right there. | ||
| All the way from Panama up to Greenland. | ||
| And he's talking about Canada. | ||
| Can he pull any of this off? | ||
| Hey, it's Donald Trump. | ||
| Remember how they mocked him about being president? | ||
| Remember how they mocked and ridiculed him when we had his back, this group, in January 2021? | ||
| I think that was a lot harder than what he's talking about now. | ||
| But he's got a vision. | ||
| What I like about this is a vision. | ||
| This is Fortress America. | ||
| This is kind of what James Monroe... | ||
| And that end of the kind of revolutionary and founders, framers generation, Monroe being the last president from Massachusetts or Virginia, really the founders before we led into really the Andrew Jackson period. | ||
| Go ahead, sir. | ||
| Well, I was just going to say that the Monroe Doctrine, again, for folks who don't realize this, this was done at the end of the Napoleonic Wars, and this was done at a time where the corollary to the Monroe Doctrine was that the United States would not go around poking into the affairs of other empires in Europe. | ||
| Or Asia. | ||
| That was the idea, that we would maintain our sphere of influence, they would maintain theirs, and then we would have diplomatic treaties beyond understanding how the relationship would go. | ||
| That was the original Monroe Doctrine, so understand that. | ||
| Now, I will say, though, for the record, Steve, I'm not exactly on board with the whole North American Union concept. | ||
| You know, Greenland, Panama Canal, yeah, sure, but Canada and Mexico, I don't know. | ||
| I'm looking at the debt-to-earnings report on those things, and it's not so great. | ||
| Maybe we could talk about reworking the trade deal. | ||
| I don't know about wholesale annexation, brother. | ||
| This is not a union. | ||
| This is an actual takeover. | ||
| Sometimes it might be hostile. | ||
| I love the vision. | ||
| I want to go back. | ||
| The DACA comment President Trump made, obviously the situation with HB1 visas, even what I call the summer omnibus. | ||
| Which is going to go away. | ||
| He's meeting with the Senate tomorrow. | ||
| Freedom Caucus on Friday. | ||
| We're going to get all that worked out. | ||
| I feel highly confident you're going to see two bills, all of it. | ||
| But geostrategically, this is part of that. | ||
| We say the three lines of work. | ||
| This is all three. | ||
| You've got the kinetic war on the Eurasian landmass. | ||
| You've got the deportations of the illegal alien evaders. | ||
| And you've got the debt and the deficit. | ||
| I want to go to this Kagan piece. | ||
| We have to address this. | ||
| Robert Kagan, I want to put in perspective who Robert Kagan is. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| He's Victoria Nuland's husband. | ||
| So first off, they're the most scariest couple in America. | ||
| The deadliest. | ||
| The one that has brought most evil to the world. | ||
| This is the king and queen of neoconism. | ||
| The color revolution. | ||
| Victoria Nuland, you know, her hands are all over this Ukraine situation as Kagan. | ||
| Kagan's also the one that, I think it was in January 1st of 2024, I think we kicked off the year in 2024, he wrote this huge 5,000-word piece to kick off the new year in the Washington Post. | ||
| That would be the Jeff Bezos Amazon Washington Post. | ||
| Yes, that would be Amazon that did the $40 million deal with Melania Trump Day. | ||
| We'll talk about that tomorrow. | ||
| That's going to take a day to digest, okay? | ||
| That he wrote a piece, Jack Posobiec, That gave the moral authority. | ||
| They were looking for a Brutus. | ||
| He made the case of why Caesar had to be assassinated. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And they were looking for a Brutus. | ||
| This is what we kept saying and went crazy about the elites who kind of drive people to an assassination attempt and give them the moral authority to do it against President Trump. | ||
| This is one of the most purely evil men in this country. | ||
| Now, he has written a piece in Atlantic. | ||
| In Atlantic, you have to understand, folks, is becoming now the intellectual center of the resistance to populist nationalism. | ||
| The elite globalist, their kind of limited hangout now is the Atlantic magazine. | ||
| You're getting all the public intellectuals over there. | ||
| Tom Nichols and this entire crowd. | ||
| These haters. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, you've worked on this thing from the beginning. | ||
| Kagan is actually saying that Donald Trump's getting ready for the biggest catastrophic defeat of any president. | ||
| And it's Ukraine. | ||
| They are trying to stick us with the Ukraine war debacle. | ||
| This is how shameless they are. | ||
| They're literally saying that President Trump is going to have this massive defeat because we're not going to send troops, we're not going to send more money, we're not backing the phony Zelensky oligarchs, that we're about to have a massive defeat, and it's going to be Donald Trump's fault, and the American people are going to flip and say, yeah, Trump had the biggest military defeat in American history. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| Well, it's amazing how they're saying the quiet part out loud because I thought from the start that this was all Ukraine's war. | ||
| I thought it was Ukraine fighting Russia. | ||
| I didn't realize it was the United States fighting Russia. | ||
| I was told that the United States would never be facing Russia on the battlefield. | ||
| I was told that none of that was going on, but it seems that Kagan, he's got a limited hangout for us here today, folks, because he's peeling back a few layers of the onion saying, The U.S. versus Russia. | ||
| So what did I just say? | ||
| The opposite of the Monroe Doctrine is picking fights with the Russian Empire. | ||
| The opposite of the Monroe Doctrine is going and getting involved in the bloodlands of Eurasia, getting involved in a land war in Eurasia. | ||
| That is Mackinder theory, by the way, for you political and geomilitary strategists out there. | ||
| That is the heartland theory, which Russia, of course, subscribes to, absolutely subscribes to. | ||
| The United States is Athens. | ||
| The United States has always been a naval power, going back to what the Great White Fleet under again. | ||
| Teddy Roosevelt. | ||
| So Kagan, what he understands is that his influence is waning. | ||
| And what he also understands is that there are going to be a number of investigations going into Victoria Nuland and Robert Kagan and their activities getting this color revolution and the Maidan Q kicked off 10 years ago in the first place because we know this don't stop with Hunter Biden. | ||
| Hunter Biden was just the bag man. | ||
| Hunter Biden was just a grundoon. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| A massive investigation into Victoria Nuland, the entire color revolution. | ||
| Her hands are all over it. | ||
| Jack, thank you for opening the show. | ||
| Where do people go to get your... | ||
| By the way, a post-show show today with Raheem was a classic. | ||
| Where do people go to get your content, sir? | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| So, Steve, of course, Human Events Daily. | ||
| We're up 2 p.m. | ||
| Eastern every day right here. | ||
| Real America's Voice. | ||
| And on the podcast side, you can subscribe. | ||
| Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec. | ||
| Have we tracked down Charlie Kirk? | ||
| Is Charlie Kirk still in Greenland? | ||
| Is he going to be doing the Charlie Kirk show from Greenland this week? | ||
| I hear he's looking for 9 Oak of the North up there. | ||
| Don Jr.'s up there spearfishing or something. | ||
| I don't know what Charlie's doing. | ||
| They're looking for Russian subs. | ||
| Where's that low Cherique? | ||
| Where's the low Cherique? | ||
| It's on fire! | ||
| Brought off the starboard bow, sir. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| What an open. | ||
| That's The Diplomat, Netflix, Allison Janney, Kerry Russell. | ||
| Very instructive. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| back in the warm in a moment. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The fact-checking department has contacted me. | ||
| You know, Vaughn Hayard does have a pretty significant fan base among the War Room Posse. | ||
| And they made a comment about his voice is not that high. | ||
| I'm going to check in a second. | ||
| But I want to use Vaughn as an example of what I call just old-fashioned American hustle. | ||
| Now, Vaughn's a left-winger that works for a left-wing news organization called MSNBC. But we met Vaughn years ago. | ||
| He drew the card. | ||
| To follow Carrie Lake around and harass her. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Carrie Lake would have these impromptu press conferences. | ||
| It would be 115 degrees. | ||
| It would be like six reporters. | ||
| And Vaughn would be sitting there asking her some cheap shot question and she would sit there and her whole press conference would be ripping on Vaughn. | ||
| But because of that grit and determination chasing Carrie around for a couple of cycles, I think governorship in 22 and then the Senate in 24. And being relentless, he's now got the White House watch. | ||
| He's one of the White House correspondents. | ||
| He's down at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| So I just want to check it out. | ||
| It was an interesting question. | ||
| President Trump blew him up in the answer. | ||
| You judge whether my imitation of his voice was wrong. | ||
| The fact-checking department wants to know. | ||
| Listen, I don't care what he says. | ||
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You said you were considering military force to acquire Panama and Greenland. | |
| Are you also considering military force to annex and acquire Panama? | ||
| No. | ||
| Economic force. | ||
| Because Canada and the United States, that would really be something. | ||
| You get rid of that artificially drawn line and you take a look at what that looks like. | ||
| And it would also be much better for national security. | ||
| Don't forget, we basically protect Canada. | ||
| But here's the problem with Canada. | ||
| So many friends up there. | ||
| I love the Canadian people. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| But we're spending hundreds of billions a year to... | ||
| The revolutionary, our founding fathers, the revered framers of the Constitution and the revolutionary generation, even some of the folks that came before that. | ||
| They had one obsession that they never could pull off, and that was Canada. | ||
| Both in the Revolutionary War, when General Montgomery went up there, I think Aaron Burns, probably the contingent, and guess what? | ||
| They got caught, as you guys in the East Coast know, got caught in a bitter, bitter winter. | ||
| Ever since General Wolfe, on the Plains of Abraham, It was an obsession of the revolutionary generation and the framers. | ||
| That generation, kind of two back-to-back, to annex Canada. | ||
| In the Revolutionary War, we took a couple of shots. | ||
| The War of 1812, you could actually argue that was a war that was principally about the territories. | ||
| Around the Ohio River that we wanted to expand into, and because of the treaty that was cut after the revolution, they kind of said, no, this is off-limits to you guys, and also in Canada. | ||
| So there is a long history here. | ||
| Also in World War II, Canada has always punched way above their weight class. | ||
| I know a lot of people make fun of Canada today, but hey, the Canadians... | ||
| In World War I and World War II, they punched and punched hard. | ||
| On D-Day in Normandy, remember, one of the entire beaches was assigned to the Canadians. | ||
| The Canadians are tough as bootleather. | ||
| The military has always been fantastic. | ||
| I want to tell people, President Trump, and remember, we're on it, folks. | ||
| We're not letting the conversation be changed. | ||
| Tomorrow, President Trump, when he comes up for President Carter's, the state funeral. | ||
| On Thursday, President Trump is going to meet with the Senate. | ||
| We already know there's all kind of discussions behind the scenes. | ||
| I believe we're going to get what the War Room and the War of Posse wants, which is two bills. | ||
| Let's get something out as quickly as possible that focuses on the border, focuses on immigration, focuses on everything we have to do with the deportations. | ||
| Get the ball rolling. | ||
| Also with some energy in there. | ||
| Let's get that. | ||
| And then it gives you time, buys you time to do... | ||
| Whatever you want to do in the economics, the debt ceiling, all of that in a summer bill. | ||
| I think the appropriation is going to be passed and going to be approved before that. | ||
| That's another whole issue with the debt ceiling. | ||
| That's got to come in March, and I don't think we're going to expand that anymore. | ||
| I think it'll be done then. | ||
| So we're not going to allow the conversation to be changed. | ||
| Given that, let's go back to that map for a second. | ||
| They say President Trump, oh, he's just transactional. | ||
| Geostrategic vision. | ||
| He's already changed the conversation when it comes to, we're going to talk in the next hour, the Indo-Pacific, what's happening in Ukraine, this situation with our naval forces. | ||
| President Biden today, the illegitimate Biden regime, released, you had Eric Prince on here, essentially Houthis, right there at Gitmo, that are shelling the two battle groups we have in the Red Sea. | ||
| We shot down an American, what is it, F-18? | ||
| On landing? | ||
| On final? | ||
| Right there. | ||
| The hardest core of America first. | ||
| The hardest core. | ||
| You say, I only want to worry about this. | ||
| I don't want to go, Steve, even you with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| It's too much. | ||
| It's too much. | ||
| I don't want to think about Taiwan. | ||
| I don't care about the chips. | ||
| It's too much. | ||
| Forget the Middle East. | ||
| Forget Ukraine. | ||
| Even you, Bannon, and the anti-CCP element. | ||
| Of this is too much. | ||
| The faction is too much. | ||
| I just want to finish America. | ||
| Look at that right there. | ||
| That chart, that map, I guess it is. | ||
| It's not a chart. | ||
| Chart would be a naval device. | ||
| That map from the Panama Canal all the way up through Canada and into Greenland. | ||
| And Greenland is quite strategic, very strategic in World War II. It also changes the strategic dynamic. | ||
| Big League. | ||
| Particularly in that slot that the Russians got to come through where they've got to, where their submarines, the boomers and the fast attacks have to come through. | ||
| So President Trump is quite serious. | ||
| I don't believe he's trying to change the conversation. | ||
| I realize that, you know, supporting Elon Musk, and that's not a hard support. | ||
| It's like the other day when people say, oh, Steve, you can't say anything about Johnson. | ||
| President Trump supports Johnson. | ||
| I said, well, hey, he supports him until he doesn't. | ||
| Or this whole thing, oh no, you know, the political operatives over at the Trump thing say, no, no, no, no, you guys have to get in lockstep. | ||
| You have to back the one bill. | ||
| No, we don't. | ||
| If we don't think it's correct and we think it hurts President Trump, we think it hurts the MAGA movement, we think it hurts the United States of America, we're just not going to fall in line and say, oh, you know, that's terrific. | ||
| It's not terrific. | ||
| We absolutely think the one bill is a ticket to Palookaville. | ||
| One bill of that scale. | ||
| First off, we fought. | ||
| Omnibus is from the beginning. | ||
| What is this all about? | ||
| We want single subject bills so you can get into the details and get into the facts and see whose ox is being gored. | ||
| Normally, normally, it would be the deplorables. | ||
| That's the way the cartel runs. | ||
| That's the way it runs. | ||
| So, we're on point on all those, and as it comes down, clearly, we've gotten some additional bad news on the... | ||
| On the confirmations, and we told you the other day, and this is why we had the orders of succession. | ||
| And now things are rolling up. | ||
| We had the orders of succession on Saturday morning, what happened on Friday night, because it's quite suspicious. | ||
| And you see right now, Pam Bondi, Grassley doesn't have, I think, the FBI report. | ||
| Well, hey, look, the traditional 28 days you wait from getting all the paperwork and waiting, we just don't have time to do that. | ||
| We don't have time to do that. | ||
| Pam Bondi's fine. | ||
| She was Attorney General in Florida for eight years. | ||
| No, you should do the background check because you don't have to wait like the 28 days. | ||
| So talking about Pam Bondi not even going, not next week, but the week after. | ||
| Might be the first of February before Pam Bondi even gets a hearing at the committee level. | ||
| Remember, just so everybody understands process, because process is going to be extremely important here over the next couple of weeks. | ||
| Critical path and process. | ||
| The process on the confirmations, they go to the committee in charge. | ||
| Whether it's judiciary for Pam Bondi and for cash, or whether it's armed services for Brother Hexeth, right? | ||
| Or whether it's Senate Intel for Radcliffe and for Tulsi Gabbard, whether it's health and human services for Bobby Kennedy and others, you know, their deputies, assistant secretaries, all the Senate confirms will come later. | ||
| But right now, you're talking about not even having any teams at all. | ||
| I think Scott Besant, I think Besant's scheduled for the 16th and 17th. | ||
| I think Pete is next, is Tuesday a week. | ||
| I think Pete's going to be the 14th. | ||
| But that doesn't mean the Armed Services Committee is probably not going to vote to the end of the week or the following week. | ||
| Maybe he does it quicker. | ||
| Maybe he gets to the Senate floor so President Trump has some team. | ||
| That order of succession is essentially saying who in the Biden regime is going to run this deal. | ||
| Before President Trump gets his guise in. | ||
| We're in a crisis. | ||
| We're in a crisis even before you get to President Trump's geostrategic vision. | ||
| It's quite interesting when Vaughn Hilliard asked that question. | ||
| Vaughn was very pointed about, hey, you talk about military and economic here in Greenland, in Panama, you certainly wouldn't think about that in Canada. | ||
| His response, well, I think economic, yeah, it may be some economic pressure. | ||
| President Trump is coming, I think, more and more to the realization and a believer in what I refer to as economic warfare. | ||
| That, you know, just not trade deals, tariffs. | ||
| And this is why I go back and hearken back. | ||
| We're going to have EJ and Tony. | ||
| He's going to start the 6 o'clock hour. | ||
| EJ is going to be able to join us. | ||
| He's only got a few minutes. | ||
| But EJ is going to talk about that Financial Times article. | ||
| And I really want everybody to go read the Financial Times. | ||
| I think Grace and Mo have got it up. | ||
| So as you can see, without a subscription, it's very important. | ||
| It really takes apart MAGA economics. | ||
| MAGA economics is based upon trade and tariffs and what I call the American system. | ||
| The American system was created by an individual named Alexander Hamilton. | ||
| Alexander Hamilton, who was obviously one of the big drivers in back of the Constitution, he was also a driver of this system called The American system, he did this with his report, kind of like a parallel to the Federalist Papers or the politics of it, the economics of it was put out in a thing called the Report on Manufacturers. | ||
| The Report on Manufacturers. | ||
| And it has not gotten historically the heightened awareness of like the Federalist Papers and the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, but from a business and economic part and really thinking through the American business model. | ||
| Hamilton thought it through. | ||
| That's why I've always said, if you take all the founding fathers, and you've got to leave Washington out because Washington was just a different level. | ||
| But if you take the rest of the revolutionary generation and the founding fathers, to me, there's no doubt that Hamilton's the greatest. | ||
| Number one, his courage and bravery, he served as the aide-de-camp to General Washington. | ||
| He was... | ||
| But many people said, and particularly Aaron Burr and people that were jealous of him, he's the son that General Washington never had. | ||
| General Washington had deep, he loved this guy. | ||
| And it's a fact that Hamilton, he would not let Hamilton take a field command when Hamilton was obviously not just ready for it, but deserved it. | ||
| And finally they had a break, they had a falling out about that. | ||
| He finally let Hamilton do the last charge at Yorktown. | ||
| The last redoubt was taken by... | ||
| Then Colonel Hamilton, who was brave beyond brave. | ||
| Later, he would become a general and actually thought about redoing the Army, the standing Army. | ||
| But his work, not just on the Federalist Paper, but he thought through. | ||
| He was the first finance minister. | ||
| That tension between Hamilton and Jefferson was palatable. | ||
| Between kind of a nationalist that believed in a strong central government and a strong central bank. | ||
| And the whole capital markets part of it, which was Hamilton, versus kind of the Jeffersonian Yeoman Democrats of the pastoral nature of that. | ||
| That tension has been throughout American history between populist and the elitist. | ||
| And remember, the least elite person was Hamilton. | ||
| He came from, you know, a very questionable circumstances down in the Caribbean. | ||
| Earned everything just by hard work, intelligence, and grit. | ||
| Whereas Jefferson... | ||
| Was from one of the landed aristocracy of the Commonwealth of Virginia, really the English aristocracy replanted here, who went to revolutionary France, who was much more of a revolutionary than Hamilton. | ||
| Interesting juxtaposition. | ||
| This is where today, this tension underlying populism and elitism, the central business model of the United States and what's under attack here. | ||
| President Trump is not trying to change the conversation, but he's looking at the United States in a broader geostrategic context. | ||
| So for you America firsters that are, hey, we need Fortress America. | ||
| Hey, Trump is going to deliver your fortress. | ||
| Manifest Destiny 2.0. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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Let's take down the CCP. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| The part I like best, I hadn't even been able to get to. | ||
| The Gulf of America. | ||
| I mean, who thinks like this? | ||
| It's so genius. | ||
| You're getting best Trump. | ||
| With all the pressure on this guy and trying to assassinate him, you're getting best Trump. | ||
| The Gulf of America. | ||
| Marjorie Taylor Greene, MTG's already put in legislation, I think. | ||
| To change it and have the oceanographic guys, all the people who do the charts, change it up, baby. | ||
| This reminds me of when I was deployed under President Carter back in the 70s, before most of your parents were teenagers. | ||
| Or some of your parents were teenagers. | ||
| You have this thing about the briefings in the North Arabian Sea. | ||
| If you talk to the Arabs, the Saudis, you can't call it the Persian Gulf. | ||
| It's got to be called the Arabian Gulf. | ||
| Not kidding. | ||
| They're very sensitive about that. | ||
| This Gulf of America is quite brilliant. | ||
| If you like the types of geopolitics, next hour, we're going from India to Switzerland to Rome to talk more about it, of what's going on. | ||
| I'm going to get Ben Harnwell on the conversation. | ||
| EJ's going to be here about the Financial Times in London, this magnificent article on Maganomics. | ||
| Peter Navarro, the work Peter Navarro's done. | ||
| And President Trump, once again... | ||
| Looking at things outside the box, making trade and tariffs, but trade, the central driving force of meganomics as an industrial power. | ||
| He doesn't lead by capital markets. | ||
| He leads by industrial power. | ||
| This article in the FT by their senior person on currency and capital markets, Ginny Attet, and she's quite brilliant. | ||
| One of the most brilliant people over there. | ||
| They've got all kind of blame, and they're, you know, we're doing this, and we're doing this. | ||
| You're still going to get that, right? | ||
| You're still going to get that. | ||
| You've got to get from the Economist and the Financial Times, you're going to get that. | ||
| But they're treating it with respect, and you do see in there that you get to the central heart about the Chinese Communist Party in China. | ||
| And Bush 41 and Clinton bringing them into globalists, bringing them into the World Trade Organization and the most favored nation status and what that meant. | ||
| This will really get you up to speed. | ||
| If you like this type of thing, Jim Rickards, one of the reasons we have Rickards as a contributor, he's one of the best on geopolitics and capital markets. | ||
| Go to RickardsWarRoom.com. | ||
| You get there. | ||
| He's got all of Jim's books. | ||
| He's got all the newsletters, Paradigm Press. | ||
| You can subscribe to any one of the newsletters. | ||
| They got it all laid out right there. | ||
| So if you like, if you're part of our audience that's inclined to that type of subject matter. | ||
| It's absolutely terrific. | ||
| Rickards is a brilliant guy. | ||
| We're going to have him on later in the week. | ||
| Jim Rickards. | ||
| Rickardswarroom.com in all one word. | ||
| And you can go and get all the different aspects. | ||
| You get a discount by putting in War Room or putting in Bannon. | ||
| You get a big discount. | ||
| So go check it out. | ||
| Also, everything free over at Birch Gold. | ||
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| Ideas have consequences. | ||
| This one has screwed up your life. | ||
| You didn't even know about it, but now you will. | ||
| Learn up about it. | ||
| We've made it very accessible. | ||
| Like I said, next hour, we're going to be on fire here. | ||
| There's a lot to go through, particularly on the subcontinent of India, in Switzerland, about this Ukraine war. | ||
| Folks, it's coming on President Trump. | ||
| Kagan's now proposing, the guy that said, yeah, we should find a Brutus to assassinate Trump, that would be morally justified, is now saying that MAGA and Trump, it's our defeat. | ||
| It's a catastrophic defeat for America. | ||
| And it's on our watch. | ||
| We're to blame for it. | ||
| You've got to read this piece. | ||
| It's absolutely astounding. | ||
| That's why we're going to have times of turbulence. | ||
| They're coming to press this on President Trump right out of the box. | ||
| This is going to be in the first couple of days. | ||
| And President Trump is going to hit them with, I don't know, 50 to 100 executive orders. | ||
| It's going to be shock and awe on Monday afternoon, the 20th. | ||
| We're going to be nonstop coverage on this on The War Room and Real America's Voice. | ||
| We don't want to miss a second of it because I can tell you. | ||
| From the 17 experience, they're going to get into the White House. | ||
| They've been working nonstop, and they're going to fire off the football. | ||
| We just need more muzzle velocity with what I call the two reconciliations. | ||
| Let's go now, as soon as possible, with one. | ||
| Mike Lindell has been doing the Lord's work. | ||
| Mike, you've been down at a prison. | ||
| I think you talked for 10 hours. | ||
| Talk to me about your prison ministry, what you're doing. | ||
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Yeah, I've got to go back in there and do some... | |
| Do some more speeches, you guys. | ||
| If you guys wanna help out the LyndaleRecoveryNetwork.org, I'm down here doing speeches. | ||
| We were talking about addiction and getting people to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. | ||
| But another one, Steve, is this is a pilot program where MyPillow is gonna be donating blankets, beds, pillows. | ||
| This is in Texas, across the Texas prisons, to get to these prisons. | ||
| So we're very proud to help out in their pilot program. | ||
| They approached me and I said, absolutely, my pillow's there for you. | ||
| And so I've had a really good day. | ||
| Getting back to this is what I was doing before all the election stuff. | ||
| And I told the inmates here, this is my first speech about Jesus and addiction since back in 21, early 21. But yeah, it's been a very rewarding day. | ||
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I did one speech, and I think everyone in the place came up and hugged me, and they can all relate to it, me being an ex-crack addict. | |
| And I spent 19 days in solitary once, and we were talking about that. | ||
| And I told these guys, when you get to where you're going, you're gonna look back at all of it. | ||
| You wouldn't pull one piece out, and I wouldn't change anything in my life to not where I'm at right now. | ||
| And I told you, we had a lot of people telling the Lord today. | ||
| Mike, we only got about a minute left. | ||
| Tell me about... | ||
| Danbury doesn't have pillows and got no blankets, right? | ||
| So you're doing the Lord's work, and I appreciate you. | ||
| I know the guys in prison appreciate that. | ||
| Sell me a pillow or sell me some flannel. | ||
| I want flannel sheets. | ||
| I didn't have a Danbury. | ||
| I want them now. | ||
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| I think last year the War Room pretty much got them all, Steve, because I know it's one of your favorite products. | ||
| We don't need no stinking satin sheets. | ||
| We're populists. | ||
| Mike Lindell, we love you, brother. | ||
| Go back to your ministry. | ||
| The Attorney General of Minnesota is on Mike Lindell because of his charitable work. | ||
| Think about that for a second. | ||
| The right stuff takes us out. | ||
| Stick around. | ||
| The next hour is about money and power and national security. | ||
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