Dec. 27, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | ||
| It's Friday, 27 December in the year of our Lord, 2024, and a firestorm over the last 48 hours about American sovereignty and what kind of country we are and what kind and a firestorm over the last 48 hours about American sovereignty and what kind of country we And actually, who's in charge? | ||
| It's Friday, 27 December in the year of our Lord, 2024, and a firestorm over the last 48 hours about American sovereignty and what kind of country we are and what kind of country are we going to be and actually who's in charge. | ||
| We kind of have to have some clarifications, as Jack Vosovic calls it. | ||
| We kind of have to have some clarifications, as Jack Vosovic calls it. | ||
| Jack Vosovic is still with Raheem Kassam. | ||
| Jack Vosovic's still with Raheem Kassam. | ||
| Dave Bratt is joining us. | ||
| Laura Loom is going to call in in a little while. | ||
| She's out and about. | ||
| D.C. Drano's with us. | ||
| The movie, that song, one of the best theme songs, but the film itself is very underrated from the early 1980s off of a book by Tom Wolfe. | ||
| And if you haven't read the book, the book's amazing. | ||
| It is the right stuff. | ||
| And it's a fabulous book and a very underrated but amazing movie. | ||
| If you get a chance over the weekend, you ought to watch it. | ||
| It talks about the grit, determination, cussedness, and good old brains of the American people. | ||
| It's personified in the Mercury program, the astronaut program. | ||
| D.C. Drano, brother, you don't do a lot of podcasts. | ||
| You don't do a lot of news. | ||
| You're out there. | ||
| You're grinding. | ||
| Why are you so worked up? | ||
| D.C. You've got to go pretty far in the woods to hit your tripwire. | ||
| Why are you so worked up about this topic, sir? | ||
| This hits at the core of the entire MAGA movement of American exceptionalism, of the populist nature of our victory, that we got the popular vote. | ||
| And our new family members, adopted family members, the tech bros, some of them, you know, are kind of figuring out how they fit into this new family. | ||
| Look, I got the Bannon pens ready to go. | ||
| I'm channeling my inner Bannon today. | ||
| So, you know, I call this a Bud Light moment. | ||
| Almost, right? | ||
| Or maybe a Joni Ernst moment. | ||
| They stepped on the third rail and they said, okay, we won. | ||
| Everyone seems cool with us. | ||
| And now the political stupidity of bringing this up when they did is the first thing I want to call out. | ||
| We just went through two, three days of wall to wall coverage of a woman being burned alive in a New York subway by an illegal alien and no one doing anything about it. | ||
| And then these guys say, you know what we need? | ||
| More immigration. | ||
| But the tone deafness is just astounding. | ||
| And, you know, it's similar to Bud Light, right? | ||
| We had just had the Nashville Christian school shooting. | ||
| And what did Bud Light put out four or five days later? | ||
| A trans guy taking a bubble bath with Bud Light, right? | ||
| The political stupidity of this. | ||
| But listen, I think we're going to work this out, right? | ||
| I think this is a healthy debate. | ||
| We're setting some ground rules of being in our family. | ||
| And if the Democrats can house both... | ||
| Hold it, hold it, hold it. | ||
| DC, hang on, hang on. | ||
| First off, it's populist nationalists versus elite globalists. | ||
| And when you say we're going to work this out, you guys, I'm going to get Loomers on here. | ||
| She's banned. | ||
| They're trying to ban Gavin Wax. | ||
| You're going to be banned eventually by the free speech absolutist. | ||
| The nerds don't take criticism. | ||
| They're kind of, you know, they're a little bit all on the spectrum. | ||
| They're not deep in social skills. | ||
| And I say, you can't run a country by algorithm. | ||
| You can't run a country by the nerds that create... | ||
| Their companies all employ a handful of people, right? | ||
| And they're all mathematicians, all about algorithms. | ||
| You can't run a country like that. | ||
| We're a country, not an economy. | ||
| And people say, oh, Steve, you're condemning us to be a third world nation. | ||
| Anything but... | ||
| Anything but the American people rise to the occasion, and they're rising to the occasion now. | ||
| But you can't sit there and tell the American people this is the problem. | ||
| We have a capitalist system with no capitalist. | ||
| It's a concentration of wealth and power. | ||
| And now you're seeing what they're doing with this, not just illegal immigration. | ||
| Look, folks, this brought 15 million people into the country. | ||
| I was on David Sachs' show. | ||
| On election night, and I told the guy, hey, yeah, we're going to deport all 15 million. | ||
| He, like, freaked out. | ||
| He seemed like a pretty good guy, but I think this is a guy that put out yesterday's tweet, said we want a billion people in the United States, bring in five million a year. | ||
| No, we do not, and not going to have a billion people in the United States of America. | ||
| People already say we're kind of overcrowded right now, particularly out west. | ||
| The folks are saying, hey, way too much people. | ||
| You have a bizarre idea of what this country is, no understanding of how we got here, and no idea of what we are going to be in the future. | ||
| We are not going to be some anarcho-libertarian, you know, big tech, run by big tech oligarchs. | ||
| That is not going to happen. | ||
| We haven't fought all these wars and haven't gotten here to give it over to a bunch of geeks that they're all reacting to being stuffed in the locker in high school. | ||
| They're having a reaction. | ||
| D.C. Draynor. | ||
| Yeah, that was, again, another tone-deaf post. | ||
| Vivek and I have not always gotten along. | ||
| We kind of have a little bit of a truce right now. | ||
| But, you know, the American people are starting to see kind of what he believes on the H-1Bs. | ||
| This is not a surprise. | ||
| Breitbart wrote an article about this in 2023. He wants uncapped H-1Bs. | ||
| And listen, it's the same as when the Democrats say, who's going to pick the crops? | ||
| These new type of globalists are saying, well, who's going to do the coding, right? | ||
| It's how about Americans? | ||
| How about you pay market wages for American employees and you don't trash American culture? | ||
| You don't call us mediocre. | ||
| Sir, we just took back this country from the most hostile regime that has ever occupied it. | ||
| American grit did that. | ||
| Not every American is exceptional, but it is American. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Whoa, hang on. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| D.C., D.C., we took it back from them. | ||
| They were a huge part of the problem. | ||
| Every one of these guys was hand in glove. | ||
| Look, I saw them all come as supplicants to Trump in 16. And what they did is they embedded in the administrative state and some elements of the White House and the administration, and they kind of got their way. | ||
| And I said at the time, when Zuckerberg and these guys start coming around the Oval Office, they're down there now with their million-dollar checks, you know, kissing the ring, but they don't have good intentions. | ||
| They just don't. | ||
| They're anti-sovereignists. | ||
| They see this as kind of a... | ||
| They don't see it as a country. | ||
| They see it as the hub of a network. | ||
| The railhead of a network. | ||
| They want to go back to what the Medici's had and the Borgias had in the Middle Ages in Italy. | ||
| These kind of city-states. | ||
| That's what they look at, D.C., Drano. | ||
| So what are you going to do, D.C., to throw down hard? | ||
| You're a pretty big voice. | ||
| But they're going to ban you, brother. | ||
| Well, I've already been banned, so I'm kind of used to it. | ||
| It was banned for a couple years. | ||
| Thankfully, we've got other platforms with true free speech. | ||
| But listen, I think we've got to work this out. | ||
| And they've got to take a backseat. | ||
| They're new to this movement. | ||
| They certainly don't have our best intentions in their hearts, and they got to take a backseat. | ||
| And if they start giving us actual free speech on social media, if they start monetizing conservatives, which we've seen in the last 24 hours, does not look like that's going to be happening. | ||
| Then maybe we can discuss some O-1 visas, right? | ||
| But they got to take a backseat. | ||
| These are the same people that banned Trump off every single platform just four years ago. | ||
| And now they're coming in after he takes control and saying, well, here's what we want from you. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| And listen, we tried this experiment of importing foreign workers and outsourcing to China and cheap labor because that's all this is. | ||
| It's just cheap labor. | ||
| That's all they want. | ||
| And it hollowed out the Rust Belt. | ||
| It destroyed communities. | ||
| For every person they hire on the cheap, a family gets destroyed, right? | ||
| A person they hire from overseas, a family gets destroyed. | ||
| That increases drug addiction. | ||
| That increases school dropout rates, crime rates. | ||
| And the American people are left paying for this. | ||
| So at the very least, as much as we're going to put tariffs on foreign Why don't we put tariffs on these foreign workers, too? | ||
| You want to pay them for cheap? | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| It's going to be more expensive than if you hire an American native worker. | ||
| I think that's what we should focus on. | ||
| Maybe that's a compromise, but that's the best they're going to get. | ||
| No offense. | ||
| We're putting the nerds back in the locker. | ||
| Trump is our guy. | ||
| Yeah, you're going to repeat high school here, nerds. | ||
| You keep pushing this, you're going to repeat high school. | ||
| You're going to get stuffed in the locker. | ||
| You're not going to date the prom queen. | ||
| DC, how do people catch you while they can on social media? | ||
| Yeah, D.C. Drano and everything. | ||
| And, you know, it's an honor to be back on the war room, Steve. | ||
| We missed you. | ||
| And, you know, this is the fight we're going to have. | ||
| But listen, if the Democrats can somehow house Jews and pro-Hamas in their side of things, I think we'll be able to figure out a solution to all this. | ||
| Amen, brother. | ||
| Thank you, D.C. Drano. | ||
| Jack Posobiec. | ||
| Your thoughts on free speech absolutism. | ||
| You've been a big believer in this, but it looks like it's shifting the other way. | ||
| They're demonetizing people, taking them off, taking away their blue checks. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| What's your guidance? | ||
| Steve, look, I think that X, what it did in 2024, and I'm always going to give Elon Musk credit to buying it in 2022 and then turning it into the fulcrum of free speech that it was that won us the election. | ||
| Look, Kamala Harris could be president if not for X, and you can't lose sight of that. | ||
| That being said, look, if there's some standard, if there's some terms of service that someone violated, spell it out. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| What did Laura Loomer violate? | ||
| What did Gavin Wax violate? | ||
| What did Owen Schroer violate? | ||
| Explain it to us, show us the evidence, and let's see the receipts. | ||
| Because right now, it looks that all that got violated was that they had a disagreement with the most powerful user on the platformer. | ||
| Optics on that aren't exactly free speech. | ||
| This reminds everybody of the worst of the eras of Zuckerberg, of Google, of YouTube, and all the rest of it when people were getting banned left and right. | ||
| Even Stephen K. Banning got banned simply for saying a common phrase about Anthony And we all remember. | ||
| We all remember what happened to Alex Jones years ago. | ||
| And I always stood up for him for his right for freedom of speech. | ||
| Even when people said, hey, this isn't good for you politically, Boso. | ||
| This isn't good for you. | ||
| Don't be associated. | ||
| I said, look, no, no, because they go for Alex. | ||
| They'll come for Steve. | ||
| They'll come for everyone. | ||
| By the way, the war is one of the biggest, most powerful shows. | ||
| We're still banned everywhere in perpetuity. | ||
| We don't give a damn. | ||
| I could care less. | ||
| We're not going to have rule by nerds. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Want to have a throwdown now? | ||
| Let's have a throwdown now. | ||
| Not going to have rule by nerds. | ||
| Been there, done that. | ||
| We saw that. | ||
| We saw it in the pandemic. | ||
| We saw what you did to Trump. | ||
| We saw how you tried to suppress everything. | ||
| We've had rule by nerds. | ||
| Not going to happen again. | ||
| That's what we all down in Mar-a-Lago right now, you know, kissing the ring, giving you your little million-dollar checks. | ||
| Jack, where do people get you? | ||
| You got the new podcast about Christianity. | ||
| It's just like on humans. | ||
| It's brilliant. | ||
| What you did on the communist side, you're doing now. | ||
| Where do people get it, sir? | ||
| Well, thank you, Steve. | ||
| So we took some time off, and I thought we were going to have some family time, but Maggie takes no days off. | ||
| We've created a new series called The Chronicles of the Christians, because it's time for Christians to understand that Christian history is at the core of Western civilizations. | ||
| And Christianity has always been a core driver of this. | ||
| The first episode yesterday, we covered a thousand years and people can go and check that out. | ||
| The true rise of Christianity, how it spread, how the gospel spread, and how during the Middle Ages, it was the monasticies and it was the scripturias that kept the word of God. | ||
| This is what spread public literacy, by the way, was the ability to read the Bible. | ||
| Today, we get into the Crusades, the true story of the Crusades. | ||
| And how, by the way, that it was the Western Church coming to the aid of the Eastern Church after the schism because they were about to be overrun by who? | ||
| The Caliphate. | ||
| We're going to tell the entire story of Christianity in a way that you've never heard before. | ||
| It's all coming out. | ||
| I believe, by the way, thank you to... | ||
| The War Room Engine Room for airing it as well on the War Room Rumble channel. | ||
| And of course we've got it up on Apple Podcasts. | ||
| So pull your Apple Podcasts out and go subscribe. | ||
| Human Events Daily will be dropping it all this week and next week. | ||
| My favorite gift from my beloved kid brother, my free Constantinople t-shirt now going viral. | ||
| Jack, thank you so much. | ||
| We'll be listening and watching today. | ||
| We'll put it up on all of our platforms. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Your stuff's great. | ||
| Two words on Constantinople, Steve. | ||
| Two words on that. | ||
| Land back. | ||
| Land back. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Okay, Johnny Kahn from Breitbart will take us out. | ||
| We got Brett Raheem Loomer next in the War Room. | ||
| Okay, we got Laura Loomer on deck by phone, but I've got Michael Seifert first, the chairman, CEO of the publicly traded Public Square, the chairman, CEO of the publicly traded Public Square, one of the best companies out there for building the Patriot Economy platform. | ||
| Brother Seifert, you kind of came from that Silicon Valley culture. | ||
| This is why you started the Alternative Patriot Economy, really marketplace exchange of Public Square. | ||
| You've been on fire, brother, on Twitter over the last 24, 48 hours. | ||
| Tell me what your beef is, sir. | ||
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| Well, my beef is simply put, Steve, that I believe the American people have given a clear mandate on November 5th that we want a populist future that is rooted in America first principles for everything, for tech, for hiring, for policy, for business, for housing, America and Americans first, always. | ||
| So, simply put, if any idea or economic solution or policy agenda It causes Americans to be deprioritized. | ||
| It's not something we should embrace. | ||
| And in fact, it's something that we should verbally and often criticize. | ||
| And I think Trump said it best in 2016. President Trump said the H-1B program is neither high skilled nor immigration. | ||
| Those lies are all just that. | ||
| They're lies. | ||
| These are temporary foreign workers imported from abroad For the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay. | ||
| The reality is, Steve, the American people are the best on the planet. | ||
| I'm gonna read this to you because I thought it was fascinating. | ||
| I discovered this yesterday. | ||
| The National Academy of Sciences found that American seniors outperform on the computer sciences than any other country, most especially China, Russia, and India. | ||
| So this facade that Americans are lazy and we don't have the right talent, it's not true. | ||
| We've had a status system for the last eight years that has actually utilized DEI and ESG to deprioritize native-born American applicants in favor of foreign workers through visa programs. | ||
| And one other thing, if you actually love India so much, then you should want India to thrive. | ||
| And the best way to have India thriving is by making sure that their top talent stays over there. | ||
| So I am heated about this topic. | ||
| It's got to be America and Americans first for American companies. | ||
| And we actually put our money where our mouth is, Steve. | ||
| Any time we have an applicant come through with an H-1B or an O-1 or a visa program of any sort on their application, we automatically deny them. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| We're an American company. | ||
| It's Americans first. | ||
| And we're really glad to have a unified culture in our workforce where all of our employees are actually American. | ||
| And we're unified to a common cause of strengthening the American economy through the American principles. | ||
| We are not just an economic zone. | ||
| We're not just a sports team. | ||
| And we're not just a financial institution that you can extract value from. | ||
| We're an actual country, a culture with customs and traditions. | ||
| We're a heartland. | ||
| And for me, it's my home. | ||
| So it's not just an economic zone. | ||
| It's our home. | ||
| And we want to make sure that we protect it. | ||
| The reason you're so special in this is you're running a tech company. | ||
| You came from tech to create this. | ||
| What about their argument is that you're just condemning, by not doing this, you're condemning America to be a second- or third-rate power, that our superpower comes from the ability to attract all these brains and geniuses from around the world. | ||
| You're in the middle of this, and you're publicly traded, so you've got to deliver for your shareholders every day. | ||
| Is there any truth to that part of the argument of these guys? | ||
| No, it's a ploy to get cheaper labor at the end of the day. | ||
| The best engineers, Steve, I've ever met all happen to be American. | ||
| If you meet a phenomenal, kick-butt American engineer, any actual professional in this space will tell you they're the best engineers on the planet. | ||
| And so our belief is, very simply put, we want to ensure that the best engineers on the planet get into our company. | ||
| It just so happens that those best engineers on the planet Come from the United States. | ||
| And one other thing I'll mention, Steve, is that employees are not only measured at our company by their ability to produce great code, there's also a cultural fit that has to be consistent. | ||
| So if you have a company made up of a bunch of people that don't align on anything else other than their ability to write code, We're good to go. | ||
| Headstrong on ensuring that our company culture is about the main thing. | ||
| It's about an actual consistent common mission that is shared amongst all of our employees. | ||
| So yeah, as an American company, I think that that argument that we could find more skilled labor by going overseas is ludicrous. | ||
| And I think that anybody worth their salt in this space would tell you that that's the truth. | ||
| There's a reason that American engineers generally cost more, and it's not because they're entitled. | ||
| It's because they're better at their craft. | ||
| We have an entrepreneurial spirit in the United States that has created the best startups ever known to mankind. | ||
| So this idea that America is lazy, what are you talking about? | ||
| We're the highest producers in the world. | ||
| We're the innovative drivers that have led to monumental advancements in the world of technology and enterprise, finance. | ||
| And so, yeah, for us, we see it as a strategic move, not just a patriotic move, to ensure that our employee base is full of American workers and that we're rejecting these visa program applicants. | ||
| So, Michael, I want everybody to go to the site today to check it out, to check out your business, but I also want your Twitter account because you've been on fire. | ||
| Where do they go for Public Square and then where do they go for you? | ||
| Well, thanks, Steve. | ||
| If you want to shop in this Christmas season from businesses that love the American Main Street, they're small businesses that are family-owned and operated, businesses that you don't find on Amazon, you can head to publicsquare.com. | ||
| We're running some great post-Christmas sales, and we'd love for you all to check it out. | ||
| And then if you'd like to engage with me on social media, best place to do that is on X, at RealMichaelSythe. | ||
| S-E-I-F. First four letters of my last name. | ||
| And I'd love to connect with you over there. | ||
| So, Steve, thanks so much for having me on. | ||
| Brother Seifert, thank you for being on fire over the last 48 hours. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Okay, one of the strongest voices out there, Laura Loomer, now joins us by phone. | ||
| Laura, what is this really about? | ||
| You've been at kind of the tip of the spear here, and they're trying to shut you down, but what is this? | ||
| Pull back for a second and frame this argument. | ||
| What is this actually about, ma'am? | ||
| So what you have is ever since four months ago when President Trump was almost assassinated in Butler, you have the most vitriolic and censorious leftist billionaires and privileged executives in Silicon Valley deciding that after censoring and silencing President Trump in the MAGA base you have the most vitriolic and censorious leftist billionaires and privileged executives in Silicon Valley deciding that after censoring and silencing President Trump in the MAGA And why do they want a seat at the table? | ||
| Because they want to skirt accountability in the incoming Trump administration after doing everything in their power to stop President Trump from getting elected. | ||
| And they also want to they want to influence our immigration policy. | ||
| And so I've been calling this out from the get go, been very critical of the big tech executives walking into Mar-a-Lago like they're trying to buy influence with their one million dollar checks and coming coming around after being vitriolic towards President Trump. | ||
| And the question is, and your previous guest this morning had the same question, why are these people who have a history of hating President Trump all of a sudden trying to dictate us on our immigration policy? | ||
| And telling us that we're stupid. | ||
| We're not the best and brightest. | ||
| We have to import people to do the job in tech. | ||
| We have to have foreigners now work with David Sachs who didn't even support President Trump in the primary, right? | ||
| These are people who supported Ron DeSantis and said that President Trump was too old and that he was likely going to go to jail and not We're good to go. | ||
| One month before the presidential election. | ||
| And now we're watching these people who have never had an interest in President Trump, who donated to his political opponents over the years, supported Hillary Clinton, supported Ro Khanna, now trying to influence our policy. | ||
| And the tech bros don't want accountability, Bannon. | ||
| That's what this is about. | ||
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They don't like when people get a light. | |
| Yeah, but hang on one second. | ||
| By the way, Rokihana has got the take on economic nationalism because of economic patriotism. | ||
| I'm not so sure the guy that gave him a check really totally understands his economic policies, which is really kind of America first. | ||
| But let me go back to Elon Musk, and I've said this over and again because he and I have a lot of disagreements, and particularly on transhumanism and the CCP, but... | ||
| Lar, when the campaign had no money, the outside groups ran the ground game. | ||
| You know this. | ||
| You were there. | ||
| He wrote a $250 million check starting in, you know, every month, starting in July. | ||
| We would not have had the ground game victory. | ||
| We had the 50-some-plus million people that showed up on mass mobilization if Elon didn't write that check. | ||
| I mean, how do you deal with that? | ||
| The fact that he... | ||
| He's going to be at the table because he's one of the most important guys that backed President Trump financially. | ||
| And in his engineering mind, he didn't spend the money on ads. | ||
| He went right back and supported Charlie Kirk's efforts, our efforts, your efforts, everybody to get out the vote. | ||
| How do you square that, ma'am? | ||
| Well, you can have a seat at the table, but why are Trump loyalists and people who have actually had skin in the game since the beginning not allowed to criticize or even report on the history and the nature of the people that are now being appointed to work in the Trump administration? | ||
| This is about freedom of speech. | ||
| This is about holding truth to power. | ||
| And this is about being able to speak truth to power and speak truth about unelected billionaires who now want to pretend like they are president. | ||
| And a lot of people are concerned about this. | ||
| It's not just Democrats that are concerned about the level of influence that technocratic billionaires are having walking into Mar-a-Lago and trying to have a seat at the table to influence our tech policy after being anti-MAGA and pro-open borders their entire lives. | ||
| So we need to have a conversation about this. | ||
| People shouldn't be demonetized. | ||
| I was banned. | ||
| I was banned from Twitter and I'm still suspended for hours. | ||
| I had my blue checkmark taken away even though I've been a paid subscriber to Twitter and I've supported premium. | ||
| And I also had all of my paid subscribers taken away. | ||
| These are people that decided to support me with their money because they like what I do and they enjoy my journalism And so now a billionaire who doesn't like the fact that I'm opposed to H1B visas and a billionaire that doesn't like the fact that I'm pointing out that a guy who Donated to pro impeachment Democrats shouldn't have a seat at the table in the Trump administration is going to take that away from me it sends a chilling effect and | ||
| If you're not going to support free speech and you're going to silence President Trump's supporters and his most loyal followers who helped get him elected when people like Elon Musk and David Sachs were supporting and financing Ron DeSantis, you don't have a spot at the table. | ||
| You shouldn't have a spot at the table. | ||
| Laura, just hang her for one second. | ||
| I know you got a ball, but I need to hold you just shortly, quickly through this break. | ||
| Laura Loomer joins us by phone. | ||
| Raheem Kassam, Dave Brett, Darren Beattie, Rosemary Jenks, all next in the War Room. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
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| Laura Loomer. | ||
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| Number one, what is your beef policy-wise on what the tech bros are trying to do? | ||
| Give me a minute or so on the beef, and then I want to talk to you about B&D platform. | ||
| So what's your beef? | ||
| They're trying to reform original MAGA immigration policy. | ||
| I posted the video of President Trump from 2016 saying that the H-1B visa system is full of abuse and fraud and that he's going to eliminate it. | ||
| You have these tech billionaires who think that they can just buy influence and walk into Mar-a-Lago and try to tell us that we're stupid and we're retarded. | ||
| I mean, that's literally what Elon Musk said. | ||
| He called us sub-tards because we don't want H-1B visas. | ||
| And so I also have a problem with his ties to China, okay? | ||
| I really do feel that it's inappropriate for a guy who is being funded by—well, you know, he's closely aligned with Xi Jinping and Li Kuang of the CCP. They support his Shanghai Gigafactory. | ||
| Why does this guy have unfettered access to President Trump? | ||
| And what are the national security implications of this? | ||
| I know that you've spoken out about this. | ||
| And we really need to have an honest conversation about this. | ||
| At what point do we say, thank you so much for supporting President Trump and donating to his ground game, but these conflicts are inappropriate and they're going to create potential controversy for President Trump and his nominees in the Trump administration. | ||
| We need to have an honest conversation about this that isn't blinded by people's love zest for a technocratic billionaire. | ||
| We need to protect President Trump from these conflicts. | ||
| The guys that are going in to advise on tech are openly tweeting about their investment portfolios in Palantir while they're appointing all of their Palantir associates to serve in the Trump administration. | ||
| These are inappropriate conflicts that we would be criticizing the Democrats for, and we need to have the same standards. | ||
| We need to have the same standards or else we're no better than the Democrats. | ||
| Laura, real quickly, he's a free speech absolutist. | ||
| The platform is supposed to be about free speech absolutism. | ||
| What is your current status, ma'am? | ||
| What has happened to you on that platform? | ||
| Well, if he's a free speech absolutist, why was my account suspended? | ||
| Why was my verified premium account taken away from me? | ||
| So if you subscribe to me, thank you for your support, but you will no longer be able to subscribe to me because Elon Musk has suspended your ability to support my work because he doesn't like what I said. | ||
| If you want to verify that my account is me and it's not some troll trying to pretend to be me, you're not going to be able to verify my account anymore because I have lost my verification. | ||
| Because Elon Musk doesn't like what I said. | ||
| I didn't dox anybody. | ||
| I posted publicly available FCC records. | ||
| I didn't incite violence against anybody. | ||
| I am simply trying to warn the Trump administration about something that is going to blow up in their face And it actually has the risk of potentially getting President Trump impeached in his second term if the Democrats take back the House and are successfully able to spin and create a narrative that big tech is trying to buy influence and that they are enriching themselves in the Trump administration. | ||
| I'm trying to warn them about a serious issue on the horizon and it needs to be taken seriously because clearly the MAGA base is up in arms about this today. | ||
| Laura, where do people then go to get you? | ||
| Where do we go today to track Laura Loomer as the tip of the spear in this fight, ma'am? | ||
| Well, you can go to my website, Loomer.com. | ||
| Loomer.com. | ||
| You can support my work, I guess, on buymeacoffee.com slash Laura Loomer. | ||
| And subscribe to me on Rumble, rumble.com slash Laura Loomer and Truth Social. | ||
| Hopefully I am able to get back in my account once the 12-hour suspension is up, but it doesn't look like I'm really going to be able to post long tweets anymore since my character limit has been limited and I've been banned from being able to purchase premium according to the messages I got from X last night. | ||
| Hopefully President Trump can tell Elon Musk to restore the verification for his supporters and his best foot soldiers during the campaign. | ||
| We need to be able to have open dialogue and conversation. | ||
| Laura, thank you so much. | ||
| Appreciate you coming on. | ||
| By the way, you can see Laura in Dan Flitz, The Pictorial History of the War Room, Rebels, Rogues, and Outlaws. | ||
| It's an amazing book, and I've got to tell you, her photos are, quite frankly, stunning. | ||
| Laura Loomer, a fighter. | ||
| Raheem, what in the hell is going on here? | ||
| You've been on this for the last 48 hours, but you've been fighting this fight with us for a decade. | ||
| What is really going on here? | ||
| Yeah, that's right, Stephen. | ||
| I like to think that I can come at this conversation certainly not as a jock, but also not as a nerd. | ||
| I was never in a spelling bee contest and I was never particularly good at mathematics. | ||
| And I sort of like to think that for the nerds, I can be the jock whisperer and for the jocks, I can be the nerd whisperer. | ||
| The psychological part of this that you guys have brought up, all of this show is obviously massive. | ||
| These are people who are effectively using A government sponsored immigration program, a government policy, a longstanding and long bemoaned H-1B policy that the United States has to bring in people that they can use as indentured servants, but also to bring in people that they can bully, right? | ||
| That is the cultural and psychological factor behind all of this. | ||
| But this argument is very hard. | ||
| And I was warning all All year long that you bring these outsiders in. | ||
| And I think a lot of people have said this over the course of the show. | ||
| We obviously are very grateful for the support, for the money, for the packs, for the voter registration, for the purchase of X from Big Tech. | ||
| But hey, what's the point of the purchase of X from Big Tech? | ||
| If it's just meet the new boss, same as the old boss. | ||
| And that's what this really comes down to. | ||
| If you're having an open conversation on a platform like X, you should be able to pretty much say virtually anything short of threats to violence or violent insurrection or whatever it is. | ||
| But what we saw take place yesterday was the culmination of a conversation that has been running for decades and decades. | ||
| And look, I wrote the book in 2018 called Enoch Was Right. | ||
| This was about a British parliamentarian who you know very well, Enoch Powell, who gave this message loud and clear to the British public that if you keep mass importing people, then it is akin to a nation heaping up its own funeral pyre. | ||
| And when I listen to Laura Loomer, when I listen to Jack Posobiec, when I listen, I know you've got Darren Beattie and Mark Rickorian and all these guys, they will say the same thing. | ||
| This is like a nation heaping up its own funeral pyre. | ||
| And listen, take it from me, an outside voice who came here from the United Kingdom to warn you not to go down the same route that we have gone. | ||
| And that is exactly what these big tech oligarchs want, right? | ||
| It's mass immigration. | ||
| It's, you know, complete disregard for not just Americans but American culture. | ||
| They couldn't care less about it. | ||
| So here's the deal that we have to assert at this point. | ||
| And by the way, it's funny, isn't it? | ||
| That some of us don't need to stroke million dollar and $10 million checks to have influence and to be heard. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because we speak the truth and we speak from the heart and we speak with morality at its core. | ||
| There is nothing moral about indentured servitude. | ||
| There is nothing moral about the H1B system. | ||
| There is nothing moral about the brain drain that it creates on the rest of the world. | ||
| There's absolutely nothing moral about About what it does to American citizens whose parents and grandparents and great grandparents built the country, paid into the system, and are now getting a bum rap as a result of these new tech oligarchs. | ||
| It was always gonna happen. | ||
| It was always a fight we were gonna have to have, and I'm glad we're having it now. | ||
| The deal is simple. | ||
| You don't get to roll in at the last minute saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, we love Trump too, and then control the policy positions of the incoming administration. | ||
| I'm sorry, we're not gonna tolerate it. | ||
| Raheem, hang on for one second. | ||
| I'm going to put a pin in that and come right back to you. | ||
| Rosemary Jenks, you're the expert on this. | ||
| In fact, you've left Numbers USA to actually get into a more activist role here. | ||
| Is Raheem right about this? | ||
| Is this what the tech oligarchs are saying, the tech bro saying, just another cover for a scam to get mass legal immigration, ma'am? | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| There's no question about that. | ||
| And I think the masks came off during this last week of debate. | ||
| And actually, I think it's been a fantastic debate until yesterday. | ||
| And I was all ready to give Elon Musk credit for allowing this to happen on X because really, I think the tech CEOs stepped out of their bubble early in the week and assumed that they could convince the unwashed masses that their need for cheap labor is real I think the tech CEOs stepped out of their bubble early in the week and assumed that they could convince the unwashed | ||
| And the fact that they were immediately pushed back on with facts, with data, with stories, heartbreaking stories of Americans who have been displaced, who have lost job opportunities, who never got the opportunities in the first place, even though they did all the right things in developing even though they did all the right things in developing the skills. | ||
| I think all of that is exactly what should happen in a democracy. | ||
| We should be having that debate about legal immigration. | ||
| We've had it about illegal. | ||
| Everyone apparently agrees now. | ||
| But on legal immigration, this is precisely the kind of debate we should have. | ||
| We have to see, are the tech CEOs going to basically throw all the toys out of the pram and go home, or are they going to have a rational conversation that can lead us to a solution that benefits American workers and potentially benefits them too? | ||
| That's fine, but we have to come to the table if we're going to have a solution. | ||
| If they're going to throw their toys out of the pram and go home, then it's all for naught. | ||
| Well, tell me, give me a minute on, before I got to bounce, about what is, because people look to you as somebody that's shaped this conversation for the last 10 years. | ||
| President Trump would not be president if it was not for the pick-and-shovel work you guys are doing in Numbers USA and guys like Mark Krikorian for years that empowered Stephen Miller and others like myself at Breitbart to really have a club to bludgeon like the House and the Senate during the rise of Trump. | ||
| What is the solution here, ma'am, on the dialogue basis? | ||
| Not specific policy, but how do we get this back on track? | ||
| Well, I think, first of all, and I'm with the Immigration Accountability Project. | ||
| First of all, what we need to do is look at where the abuses are occurring. | ||
| You know, we should not have indentured servitude in the United States of America in the 21st century. | ||
| That's a simple fact. | ||
| There has been all kinds of things thrown out on Twitter over the last week about how our education system is terrible, and that's the root of the problem. | ||
| Well, if that's the case, then why are all these Indians and Chinese coming to American universities, graduating from American universities, and then being put into American jobs? | ||
| If employers are willing to hire foreign graduates of American universities, why won't they hire American graduates of American universities? | ||
| These are things we need answers to. | ||
| We have to have this conversation, and it can't be that the tech oligarchs can buy out the entire policy realm The American people get a say in America. | ||
| America is not a corporation that is designed solely to promote the enrichment of the owners and the managers. | ||
| This is a nation. | ||
| This is our home. | ||
| We have a say. | ||
| And whatever our public policy is, and immigration is public policy, it should benefit Americans. | ||
| Not just a certain class of them, not just the elites, which is what has happened for the last 30, 40, 50 years. | ||
| Rosemary, where do people get you at your new gig, your new organization that's looking for accountability? | ||
| You've done all the analytical work for a couple of decades. | ||
| Where do folks go, ma'am? | ||
| The Immigration Accountability Project is at IAProject.org, where on X, all of our social media is linked from our website, IAProject.org. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| You're the best. | ||
| Rosemary Jenks on a Friday morning, laying it down hard. | ||
| What a warrior she is. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Long fight. | ||
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Let's take down the CCB. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| By the way, this argument's just not for the MAGA base. | ||
| This talks about a realignment like 1932. This goes to all Americans, like that interview I gave. | ||
| Every American citizen's involved in this conversation. | ||
| This is our country, right? | ||
| Many of you have been here six, seven generations, have nothing to show for it. | ||
| American citizens come first. | ||
| The interest of American citizens come first. | ||
| Always. | ||
| That's why this debate is so important. | ||
| I couldn't get Darren Beatty. | ||
| We had a technical problem with Darren. | ||
| He's going to join us on Saturday's show. | ||
| We'll get Darren up then. | ||
| He's got a lot to say about this topic. | ||
| Dave Bratt, your thoughts? | ||
| Yeah, it's always immigration, isn't it? | ||
| Immigration always shines the light on this corruption and leaving the American citizen behind. | ||
| And so there's nothing new, oligarchs maximizing profits, all corporations maximizing profits. | ||
| The way you can always tell what's going on here is if you're really going to put the American citizen first, If you're really going to pay attention to the voters who are moving our way, black, brown, Hispanic, those in the middle class of America, why do CEOs and the oligarchs only focus on engineers and STEM? There is no attention paid to the third graders in Chicago who are reading at a 12% literacy rate. | ||
| If you care about America and you want to put America first, There's your answer. | ||
| The reason it's easy is because between China and India, you got 2.8 billion people. | ||
| So it's a numbers game. | ||
| Of course, you're gonna find some geniuses. | ||
| If we would educate our own kids so that they can read in the third grade and then go on through the rest of school, we have We have plenty of talent in this country. | ||
| It's a disgrace. | ||
| So we're doing a paradigm shift. | ||
| MAGA is a paradigm shift. | ||
| Trump is a paradigm shift. | ||
| We took out the majority leader with your help in Breitbart 12 years ago with Kanner and all that over this issue. | ||
| Immigration always cuts through the noise. | ||
| The American people can clearly see who's on their side. | ||
| When you're talking about culture, all of this fits under justice underneath the Judeo-Christian West. | ||
| These other countries and cultures, name me a great university off the tip of your tongue in China or India. | ||
| Great technical education, yeah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Let me see a system that works over the long run. | ||
| China's cracking up. | ||
| They will not have an economic system that's tied to morality like Rahim was just talking about. | ||
| That's the key to the Judeo-Christian West. | ||
| We're seeing a paradigm shift like you've never seen before. | ||
| We're going to get it right this time. | ||
| Elon and Vivek, brilliant, smart guys, but they don't get to profit maximize at the expense of the American citizen first. | ||
| Dave, where do people go to get all this great material from you on social media and your website? | ||
| Yep, just Brat Economics on Getter. | ||
| Great show today. | ||
| Unreal. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| We'll see you tomorrow. | ||
| Dave's going to be my co-host tomorrow on the Saturday show. | ||
| Brett, thank you so much. | ||
| Thanks for hanging around, brother. | ||
| Dave Brett, unique voice. | ||
| Remember, he defeated Eric Cantor, first time majority leader in the history of this country, ever been defeated in a primary. | ||
| Dave Brett on the topic of, wait for it, immigration. | ||
| Rahim Kassam, National Pulse. | ||
| You guys have been putting up incredible pieces on this, Gavin. | ||
| Wax has got a piece. | ||
| Will Upton yesterday broke it all down so people can understand exactly what we're talking about from the math. | ||
| So make sure they're just not punitry. | ||
| Where do people go for the National Pulse, brother? | ||
| Right, and that's the point, Steve. | ||
| You know, this isn't just about complaints. | ||
| You know, this show takes you through, like, where it all starts and how we actually get to the solution of this. | ||
| And if you want to talk about, you know, special people, the Einsteins, all of that, you're not talking about H1B. So the whole conversation is a fraud and a farce and a scam. | ||
| To begin with, we have the article up, brilliant article by Will Upton up on TheNationalPulse.com. | ||
| It's on the left sidebar in the analysis section. | ||
| People should go check it out. | ||
| If you want to support our work and get more of that kind of information out there, it's TheNationalPulse.com forward slash war room. | ||
| And I'm so grateful for everybody on the back of yesterday's Boxing Day special who joined up TheNationalPulse.com forward slash war room. | ||
| Raheem's all over this topic. | ||
| And quite frankly, this is one of the reasons the German government's falling. | ||
| This is the reason the French government's falling. | ||
| This is the reason Nigel Farage, historically, the reform movement yesterday went over. | ||
| It's collapsing the Tories, and now the Reform Party's been around for a year or two, has now have more members than the Tory party. | ||
| We'll talk about that tomorrow with Raheem. | ||
| Raheem, thank you for coming on. | ||
| Thank you for the pieces. | ||
| Everybody go to National Pulse, check it out. | ||
| Detailed analytical pieces. | ||
| Gavin Wax One of the leaders of this movement will have a piece up in a while. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Yes, thank you. | ||
| What a fight. | ||
| It's a fight you've got to have. | ||
| You've got to stick up for this thing, right? | ||
| American citizens first. | ||
| I don't care if you're African American, Hispanic, white. | ||
| If your American citizen comes from India, it's not a problem. | ||
| It's not a problem. | ||
| You're an American citizen. | ||
| This is about American citizens. | ||
| This is about our sovereignty. | ||
| And Laura Loomer is absolutely correct. | ||
| We can't cede this ground to anyone. | ||
| This is the ground we're going to fight because we're a country, not an economy. | ||
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