Dec. 18, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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unidentified
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It's garbage. | |
| I think that it's shameful that people that celebrate Doge coming in, and yet we're going to vote for another billion dollars to be added to the deficit. | ||
| And so, it's ironic. | ||
| It's the opposite of what the Doge Commission is trying to do. | ||
| So, am I voting for it? | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| We're just fundamentally unserious about spending. | ||
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unidentified
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As long as you've got a blank check, you can't shrink government. | |
| If you can't shrink government, you can't live free. | ||
| What could you tell us about this bill? | ||
| And does it disturb you? | ||
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unidentified
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Some Republicans seem to be very critical of it. | |
| No, look, those are three of my great friends you just quoted there. | ||
| They're not wrong about the government debt and deficits. | ||
| It bothers us all. | ||
| We've got it in our central focus. | ||
| And when we start the new Congress in January, when Republicans are in control and Doge is working on all six cylinders, we're going to be able to scale back the size and scope of government. | ||
| But before we get to that point, Right now, we only control one-half of one-third of the federal government. | ||
| Remember, Democrats are still in charge of the Senate and the White House. | ||
| So what we've done is the conservative play call here, my friends that you just interviewed there, or that those clips were played, were part of this decision. | ||
| We decided, even though we don't normally like short-term stopgap funding measures, it made sense here. | ||
| We're doing Chuck Schumer and Biden's spending for 2025. We push this decision into March. | ||
| It'll be March 14th. | ||
| So the feature there is that we'll have Republican-controlled Congress and Trump back in the White House, and we get to decide spending for 2025. So that was a good thing. | ||
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unidentified
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So how did you lose the Freedom Caucus and the moderate members? | |
| This is the sausage-making process, okay? | ||
| Here's what this bill entails. | ||
| It's a short-term funding extension until March 14, and that would have been an easy thing relatively to pass. | ||
| But here's what happened. | ||
| We also had to add, due to circumstances outside of any of our control, emergency funding. | ||
| We have two major emergencies. | ||
| We had a record historic hurricane season that we all know, Helene and Milton and the rest, that destroyed a big swath of the country. | ||
| We have to have... | ||
| That's $100 billion to rebuild six states. | ||
| And then on top of that, we have our farmers, our small farmers and ranchers, our food producers in this country, are in jeopardy of going under permanently. | ||
| They've had three lost years in a row, primarily because of Bidenomics and inflation and lots of other factors outside their control. | ||
| So for the first time since I've been in Congress, guys, in eight years, it's not just farmers and ranchers urgently needing the help. | ||
| We now have the creditors, the lenders, the banks, Who give them those loans who are saying we have to have a stopgap measure. | ||
| So when you add those things in, here's the other thing to remember. | ||
| Our Democrat colleagues who have to vote on all this, they don't prioritize agriculture. | ||
| They don't really care that much about farmers and ranchers because they're in rural red districts, right? | ||
| But that's our food supply. | ||
| If we crush domestic food supply, that is a direct threat to national security. | ||
| We need all those small farmers and ranchers, and that's included in the bill as well. | ||
| So when you add all those things together, that's what makes people nervous because of the prices. | ||
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unidentified
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We really don't have a choice. | |
| We have to fund those. | ||
| We have to fund FEMA. We have to fund our farmers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Mr. Speaker, it's not just... | ||
| So you've got a bunch of Republicans who are angry at you. | ||
| They don't like this. | ||
| And just in a couple of weeks, you're going to stand once again to run for Speaker of the House. | ||
| And you don't need a bunch of Democrats mad at you. | ||
| But you know, and this is breaking news you do not know. | ||
| You know who also does not like this? | ||
| Elon Musk, the world's richest man, just tweeted, this bill should not pass. | ||
| The only way you're going to be able to pass it now, Mr. Speaker, is with Democrats. | ||
| If you could, what's your message to Elon Musk? | ||
| Well, I was communicating with Elon last night. | ||
| Elon and Vivek and I are on a text chain together. | ||
| And I was explaining to them the background of this. | ||
| And Vivek and I talked last night about almost midnight. | ||
| And he said, look, I get it. | ||
| He said, we understand you're in an impossible position. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| Remember, guys, we still have just a razor thin margin of Republicans. | ||
| So any bill has to have Democrat votes. | ||
| They understand the situation. | ||
| They said, it's not directed to you, Mr. Speaker, but we don't like the spending. | ||
| I said, guess what, fellas? | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| We got to get this done because here's the key. | ||
| By doing this, we are clearing the decks and we are setting up for Trump to come in roaring back with the America First agenda. | ||
| That's what we're going to run with gusto beginning January 3rd when we start the new Congress when Republicans, again, are in control. | ||
| And all of our fiscal conservative friends, I'm one of them, will be able to finally do the things that we've been wanting to do for the last couple years. | ||
| Right now, Democrats still control depends. | ||
| And that's the problem. | ||
| So we've got to get this thing done so we don't have the shutdown, so we get the short-term funding measure, and we get to March where we can put our fingerprints on the spending. | ||
| That's when the big changes start, and we can't wait to get there. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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unidentified
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| You've just not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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unidentified
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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unidentified
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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unidentified
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | ||
| It's Wednesday, 18 December, Year of Our Lord 2024. | ||
| Kicked off the 80th anniversary commemoration of the Battle of the Bulge. | ||
| I've asked Senator Tuberville's here this morning, we're going to get into it, but Senator Tuberville, to think back, you know, your father was, you went over to Normandy for the first time to commemorate on the 80th there. | ||
| To think... | ||
| What those men did and accomplished and the women back here that were working in the factories to accomplish and to see what we've allowed this country to deteriorate and we call this leadership. | ||
| This is absolutely revolting what has happened here in the last 24 hours. | ||
| You're just assessment of this town because the mentality here, you have people, they gave themselves a raise with everything going on in the economy for working class and middle class people and President Trump and all the fights we have to have going forward, all these tough fights. | ||
| They gave themselves a raise and gave themselves the ability to opt out of Obamacare when they haven't done that and nothing for the American people, sir. | ||
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unidentified
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Well, first of all, Steve, thanks for having me on. | |
| Merry Christmas. | ||
| I woke up this morning about 4 a.m., had to do a very early show, but I started thinking about my dad at 18 years old. | ||
| he got wounded in the Battle of the Bulge. | ||
| But this thing, I don't know, how many days it last? | ||
| I don't even know how long. | ||
| Like three, four weeks. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| It was a long time. | ||
| Because Hunter first took Bastogne and then had to be relieved by Patton. | ||
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unidentified
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By Patton. | |
| Well, my dad was driving a tank, so he was probably with Patton, but his tank was blown up and got torn up pretty good. | ||
| But just thinking about that group that fought for the freedoms and the things that we have And if they could all look at what's going on today, they'd go, my God, what did we fight for? | ||
| We fought for freedom and people to have their opportunities to do whatever. | ||
| But it's a sad situation. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| And I've been looking at the text of this bill, 1,500 pages. | ||
| It's supposed to be a CR, which basically takes the budget and goes and gives President Trump... | ||
| It should be a one or two-liner. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| At the most, five pages or so. | ||
| But it was 50 pages, just introductory. | ||
| It took me forever to get through the introduction of a CR. They're calling it the Christmas tree bill now. | ||
| Everything's in it. | ||
| We could have done, and I feel terrible for the farmers. | ||
| They're in bad shape. | ||
| Terrible for the people in North Carolina. | ||
| They want to give $100 billion for disaster relief. | ||
| I'm good with that. | ||
| Steve, you know how much $100 billion it is? | ||
| I mean, you'd have to have 100 banks accounting for that money going in and out to make sure people get the right money. | ||
| The federal government can't do that. | ||
| It's like, oh, we're sending $60 billion to Ukraine. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| 5B might get to the right spot. | ||
| The other 55 goes in somebody's pocket. | ||
| But it's out of control. | ||
| We've all known that. | ||
| And I was hoping President Trump would get off to a good start. | ||
| But here, as you just said, everything in the world is in this bill. | ||
| And basically, if you look at it, the Democrats got about $10 for every $1 for the Republicans. | ||
| And we've got control of the House. | ||
| Go figure that out. | ||
| I gave a speech on Sunday night in New York and I said that President Trump had been there last year and given the keynote speech, which he really kicked off his general, the primary in general, the amazing speech and the people there pitching him on going to South Bronx and around New York City when it was trials, going to really change the direction, the trajectory of the campaign and brought in working class Hispanics and African Americans to our cause. | ||
| And I said, it's 400 days from that to the day he's inaugurated. | ||
| But I said, if you look at... | ||
| And I said, think of everything that was before us then, that had to be through human action. | ||
| We had to... | ||
| There was no guarantees. | ||
| It all had to be done. | ||
| I said, as I said on that stage, if you look 400 days in the future, it is the first anniversary of Trump's inauguration. | ||
| So it'll be the end of his first year, which everybody says, what are you going to have? | ||
| I said, if you do the math now, you go to the National Declock... | ||
| Virtually regardless of what Vivek and Elon and the president do, we're going to have $40 trillion. | ||
| I said take any of the clocks that are out there and just put it in. | ||
| We're going to have $40 trillion. | ||
| That day we'll hit $40 trillion. | ||
| And this country is very different because then you're at about a trillion and a half dollars of gross, you know, top interest payment. | ||
| We have to get serious about this. | ||
| We don't have time. | ||
| We're burning daylight. | ||
| And what is so wrong about this is the mentality and attitude about it that you can just... | ||
| Here, we're just trying to... | ||
| Look, we don't support short-term CRs here because they always end up in trouble. | ||
| We do support the concept of this because it kicks it into President Trump's administration with Russ Vogt and Scott Besson and his economic team. | ||
| And you give 60 days. | ||
| So it's a 90-day bill. | ||
| And yes, there's big problems in North Carolina, but I'm not so sure no one's ever answered, is all the cash, is it just Biden and his regime that are not giving it? | ||
| The farmers are in a horrible situation, but can they last another 30 days? | ||
| This should be a one-liner, right? | ||
| And if it's got to be the farmers thing, just whatever the de minimis amount we need that they bridge them till we get there. | ||
| Otherwise, what this thing does... | ||
| You're not serious people. | ||
| The problem is that that $40 trillion is going to be much more. | ||
| And we have so many tough fights, and we have to be there. | ||
| It can't all be on Trump's shoulders all the time. | ||
| People in this city, particularly in the House, have to step up. | ||
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unidentified
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Well, exactly right. | |
| If you look at the farmers, for instance, you know, we're two years behind on the Farm Bill. | ||
| The Democrats just, they just said to hell with it last year and said, we're not going to do it. | ||
| You know, the Stabenow, she's going out from Michigan, so she was a chair, so we didn't do that. | ||
| But if you look at where the money's coming from, and it started at $30 billion and went down to $10 billion, but the money is actually coming from the Farm Bill of the future. | ||
| So it's money that's going to be spent anyway. | ||
| But the problem is, I got with the Farm Bill, it's going to be $1.5 trillion, and $200 billion goes To the farmers in a five-year period, and 1.3 trillion goes to food stamps. | ||
| Now, if we need to start cutting, and you know that Doge Group's going to start looking at that, people got to go back to work. | ||
| We need to take care of the elderly, the veterans, people with illnesses, but everybody else got to go back to work. | ||
| We're not going to make it. | ||
| You go back to working. | ||
| Also, that's all the – the ones pushing that are all the food companies on the ultra-processed food that the folks on welfare – we got to – if you're going to get healthy and get back to the folks not having the burden on Medicaid and Medicare and all that, we got to get the country healthier. | ||
| And the problem with the food stamps is not just the food stamps. | ||
| It's the companies pushing that $1.2 trillion. | ||
| It's all the ultra-processed food. | ||
| Now, unfortunately, it's a lot of the food I like, but it's a food product. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| There's so many hard cuts that have to happen Like you're talking about out of food stamps. | ||
| Nobody's going to be cheerful about cutting food stamps, but you're right. | ||
| They are hard decisions about putting food on the table for people or giving access to it that have to be made. | ||
| Or we're just not going to be a country anymore. | ||
| And here we have probably the easiest thing we have to do. | ||
| Just kick it to President Trump's term. | ||
| And you have a 1,500 page. | ||
| And what I really... | ||
| We're going to get much into the nastier part of it after you take off is Johnson ball-faced lie to people. | ||
| He just stood up the other day and said this thing was short and tiny, which he told everybody, even some committee chairs. | ||
| But just because of some natural disasters, this thing, that 1,500 – if you go through it, there's some highly negotiated – I mean, Democrats have 10 to 1, and they gave themselves a pay raise and got themselves off of Obamacare. | ||
| Do they think people are idiots today? | ||
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unidentified
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Well, you knew this was coming, that the American taxpayer was going to have to fund the money for that bridge. | |
| You knew that was coming. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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unidentified
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They're not going to hold the insurance company accountable. | |
| No. | ||
| Although we do get the overages from the insurance company. | ||
| They don't even treat you like an adult. | ||
| We're going to get to the Treasury all the overages from the insurance company. | ||
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unidentified
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And then the football stadium moving back to Washington, D.C. We can't even manage cutting grass in the medians. | |
| Because it looks like the late days of the Roman Empire. | ||
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unidentified
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We're a third world country up here. | |
| I asked President Trump, take this place back over. | ||
| This should be the icon of the world. | ||
| And you drive around and we've got trees growing out of concrete. | ||
| I know you got about... | ||
| Do I have a few more minutes with him on the other side? | ||
| Okay, Senator Tuberville is kind enough to come in here today and calm me down because I was about to start screaming right at the back. | ||
| He's my safety blanket. | ||
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unidentified
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Security blanket. | |
| It's my security blanket. | ||
| I'm so honored to do this today when your father was part of the tank. | ||
| That relieved Bastogne on the Battle of Bulge, which was, you talk about a brutal thing. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| Senator Tommy Tuberville from the great state of Alabama joins us on a day that we're going to get into the details of this fiasco that was dropped on us yesterday. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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unidentified
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| Senator Tuberville is with us. | ||
| In what is ahead of us, can you give the folks a, like, looking at it from the Senate, we've got, we've got to get control of these budgets, right? | ||
| We can't touch entitlements yet, because I'm sure on the American people we can manage what we've got on the discretionary budget. | ||
| You've got to make cuts, significant cuts. | ||
| The Doge guys are all talking about it. | ||
| You've got the appropriations process. | ||
| We have a lot of work to do, but you have to set the tempo. | ||
| You have to enforce your will on people. | ||
| And I keep saying, victory begins victory. | ||
| Move the chains. | ||
| Show directionally you're moving. | ||
| This is, once again, we've got the situation on Capitol Hill with the nominations, and you've done an amazing job, like you did an amazing job at the Pentagon last year. | ||
| It just doesn't seem like they've bought into the fact that Trump, not just won, but carried him across the goal line, but still in the city. | ||
| The honest truth is most of the people in the House and almost everywhere in the Senate, except for you and a handful of others, aren't really with Trump's program. | ||
| They may step in front of a microphone and say enough that they have to to move it down the road. | ||
| So how do we change that? | ||
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unidentified
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Well, he's going to have to change the atmosphere and the attitude up here. | |
| Trump. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, Trump is. | |
| And first of all, he's going to put everybody back to work. | ||
| But that's all small potatoes there. | ||
| You know, that's just a minuscule of the money. | ||
| We spend that in the next 20 minutes. | ||
| You mean getting the federal government guys back here? | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, back to work. | |
| Right. | ||
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unidentified
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To me, he's got to start evaluating and have somebody evaluate all of these agencies. | |
| Why do we need commerce? | ||
| Why do we need energy? | ||
| You're saying whole departments, cabinet positions. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, get all these departments and let's cut back on government. | |
| I mean, we're way overblown. | ||
| I had a great meeting with RFK Jr. yesterday. | ||
| I'd never met him. | ||
| And he came in with a plan. | ||
| He said, Coach, this is what I want to do. | ||
| I'm going to be the head coach and I've got a good CDC director, NIH director, Medicare, Medicaid, and Dr. Oz, surgeon general. | ||
| We're going to work together. | ||
| We're going to cut As much as we possibly can, it was a breath of fresh air. | ||
| Cash Patel, the same thing. | ||
| Pete Hexes, the same thing. | ||
| They're all in the smaller government. | ||
| See, the media is not reporting that at all. | ||
| They're all in trouble. | ||
| So put us in the room. | ||
| When they come up, these guys are very organized. | ||
| Because I know Cash and Pete and Bobby pretty well. | ||
| They walk in and lay you through a plant. | ||
| They're on offense when they come in. | ||
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unidentified
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Scott Bessett, I met with him in New York two months ago, even before the election. | |
| What a great guy. | ||
| This guy's got a plan for our Treasury Department. | ||
| Kevin Hassett. | ||
| I mean, we've got a chance here. | ||
| We've just got to make sure that when we go in, we don't do business as usual. | ||
| We've got to cut 20-30% of the fat out of each one of these departments. | ||
| And then that will get us off to a good start. | ||
| But they've got to help President Trump. | ||
| He can't do it by himself. | ||
| Everything can't be on his shoulders. | ||
| Tonight, today, as I was working overnight this morning, they said, well, President Trump's got to send some signals. | ||
| I said, let's take care of business. | ||
| We're grown men and women. | ||
| Everything we have to rely upon President Trump, he's got enough on his shoulders. | ||
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unidentified
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Oh, yeah. | |
| I mean, he's going to be overwhelmed. | ||
| And you know President Trump. | ||
| He's going to try to do it all, but he can't do it all. | ||
| He's got to have good people and loyal people that's going to tell him the truth about when they go in and look at the books and look at the things that have been going on for four years, which, by the way, I can tell them that's a total disaster. | ||
| Not one thing is going in the right direction. | ||
| Not one thing. | ||
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unidentified
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Everything's got to be reversed, going in the right direction. | |
| We've got to get people... | ||
| Smiling again. | ||
| And look what President Trump's done in just a month and a half. | ||
| The animal spirits. | ||
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unidentified
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He loves the press conferences. | |
| He'll start a 10-minute press conference and I'll come back an hour and a half later. | ||
| He's still there. | ||
| Dropping bombs. | ||
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unidentified
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And Joe Biden hadn't done that in four years. | |
| Combined. | ||
| But no, when he goes to Notre Dame, it's like Charlemagne showing up, right? | ||
| They're all trying to get up there and touch him. | ||
| All the guys that hate him over in Europe, Macron and all these tiny people. | ||
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unidentified
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So you think we're in trouble? | |
| Look at the leaders of these other countries. | ||
| My gosh. | ||
| We did this last night. | ||
| France, Germany, Canada. | ||
| These things are blowing up because of finance. | ||
| They're blowing up because of deficits in the bond market. | ||
| In the bond market, I gave the speech that you've got to focus on the bond market. | ||
| That's the real money that's going to finance stuff. | ||
| You can't mess around here. | ||
| And we're messing around. | ||
| Does the Senate... | ||
| Have a better, at least, attitude of what's happening? | ||
| Do you think that's even going to be worse than the House? | ||
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unidentified
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No, I think we're in a good space. | |
| Of course, we've got several that don't like President Trump and never have. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| And so we have to work through that. | ||
| But hopefully they look at the endgame of, hey, this will be our last chance. | ||
| And I've told you this. | ||
| We won't have another chance. | ||
| We're either going to go all the way to the bottom, and our kids and grandkids are going to have to build it back up, or we're going to save it right now and go north. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| But I was going to say what he was talking about, these leaders. | ||
| Look at the Canada's, the guy that's running against Trudeau. | ||
| Yes, the populace. | ||
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unidentified
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He gave a great speech. | |
| Five-minute speech. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| We've got that poll we're going to play later. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| He just said what the average person in Canada is looking for, which is not a handout. | ||
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unidentified
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I said, that's Trump. | |
| That's Trump speaking. | ||
| He's a populace. | ||
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Will they elect him? | |
| Yes. | ||
| First of all, they're going to turf Trudeau out, I think, very shortly. | ||
| And what I liked is the finance minister, who President Trump doesn't like, she's very tough, but she says something in her letter of resignation. | ||
| She told Trudeau, she says, President Trump's This aggressive economic nationalism has to be taken seriously from the American's point of view, and you're not. | ||
| You're running these deficits. | ||
| We've got to keep our powder dry. | ||
| I'm not going to be part of this. | ||
| I'm quitting. | ||
| Now, she's very cunning. | ||
| She wants to replace him, but she said Trump means what he says. | ||
| He means what he says, and he's going to do it, and you've got to start taking him seriously. | ||
| I think this town has to do that, particularly about the cuts and about getting the financial house in order, which they're not. | ||
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unidentified
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We can't do this without Europe. | |
| We can't do it. | ||
| Because we have to have some allies. | ||
| You know, we've got some that say they are, but they're not. | ||
| So I'll ask you this question. | ||
| What about England? | ||
| Can they be saved? | ||
| It's going to be very tough. | ||
| I was with Niger over the weekend. | ||
| And England, outside the city of London, is a third world country. | ||
| I mean, the manufacturing's gone. | ||
| Everything's gone. | ||
| The only way they can be saved is Nigel take over the Tory party and then they put with labor. | ||
| It's crapping sideways. | ||
| Remember, they've already lost their government to economics. | ||
| Trusts and really Richie Sunak got turfed out by the bond market and basically turned over the biggest in history. | ||
| I want to go back to Europe. | ||
| Mitch McConnell, and this is back to your father, he says that Trump and Warren and others that are the Trump America First movement, we're hearkening back to a dangerous isolationism of the same people who used the name in the 1930s. | ||
| If people had paid attention to those people in the 1930s to get people's act together, you wouldn't have had to fight Hitler if you had taken care of it early with non-kinetic means. | ||
| But we didn't do that, and you ended up with your dad was 18 years old when he went over. | ||
| I mean, depending upon 18-year-old kids to go over and fight a war machine like that. | ||
| And I just think Mitch McConnell misses the point. | ||
| You and I are both parents. | ||
| I served for eight years. | ||
| My daughter's West Point. | ||
| I'm not a dove, but this thing's out of control right now. | ||
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unidentified
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Well, and we start all the wars. | |
| People don't understand the CIA behind the scenes. | ||
| We've tried to overthrow 70 different governments since World War II. We hadn't won a war before. | ||
| But we create a lot of them, and then we get in them. | ||
| We can't get out, and it costs us a fortune. | ||
| And look where it's got us. | ||
| We're $36 trillion in debt. | ||
| And if you go back and look at all of it, half of that debt is going to be from shipping either supplies or kids or young men and women over or giving money away to create. | ||
| But Ukraine now, we've been right on this from the beginning. | ||
| You have a million Ukraine. | ||
| This is President Trump's talk he gave. | ||
| I was in Mar-a-Lago last week to Russ Vot and his guys. | ||
| A million... | ||
| Dead or wounded Ukrainians, 700,000 dead or wounded Russian soldiers, and a country is destroyed, and now blinking these guys are asking for 500,000 18-year-olds, people your dad's age, to go to the front on a war that's not going to be won. | ||
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That's two million people, and if you think back to you and I when we were growing up, we lost 50,000 in Vietnam. | |
| We thought that was, and which it was. | ||
| It was a complete disaster of losing that many, and they've lost ten times that many. | ||
| They'll never survive in our lifetime and many lifetimes because they won't have generations coming up. | ||
| Their birth rate has already fallen through the floor. | ||
| So Guardian had this article the other day. | ||
| But they're going to push – the big news when it first came out is that Ukraine, $25 billion for Ukraine wasn't in his. | ||
| There's supposed to be a big win. | ||
| You see it up there. | ||
| They're still pushing Ukraine nonstop. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| In Syria. | ||
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I think I told you last time, my staff, we've given them $215 billion. | |
| The United States have. | ||
| And all the rest of the countries, including NATO, all over the world, they've given $52 billion. | ||
| Now, that's what, four to one, that we've given and pushed this war. | ||
| There's something behind this. | ||
| Now I'm starting to hear, well, we're going to get money back because of minerals. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| We're fighting? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Minerals. | ||
| I brought it up when this war first started with the media, and I said, listen, a lot of this has got to do with farmland and things like that. | ||
| And they said, well, listen to this local joke. | ||
| He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. | ||
| Now they're pitching that as the upside. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I like what President Trump says. | ||
| It's a great farmland, but it's nothing to stop bullets except for bodies. | ||
| And he's exactly right. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| What are the folks in Alabama, given this victory we had, if you had to go and talk to your constituents today, what's their attitude about where we are right now after the win and going forward? | ||
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What should we do? | |
| They're all on pins and needles, to be honest with you, just waiting to see if he... | ||
| One person can't do this. | ||
| This is going to have to be a group of people up there that's going to have a backbone and get a spine and understand that, hey, you might not like what you're doing, but you're going to have to make a tough vote sooner or later. | ||
| And we're all going to have to suffer. | ||
| We've lived high on the hog now for many, many years, and that's time we're going to have to pay it back, and there's going to have to be a lot of things cut. | ||
| But we still live in a great country as long as we keep our freedoms and freedom of speech and give an opportunity to have fair elections. | ||
| I hope we have some kind of election laws pulled up in the next year or so because we don't. | ||
| You know what they're going to do. | ||
| It's going to be hard to keep any power. | ||
| I'm not going to have Senator Tuberville revere you too much to give your Twitter. | ||
| That's your Twitter. | ||
| Are you active on Twitter? | ||
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I do some. | |
| I see your interviews all the time. | ||
| Last thing before you go. | ||
| Hexeth, Bobby Kennedy, and Cash, they've been very impressive when they walk you through the plan. | ||
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100%. | |
| And everybody's like, they have no experience. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Just because they're not lawyers doesn't mean they don't have experience. | ||
| You've got to be a damn lawyer up here to get a job. | ||
| I mean, there's people that can do things that are not lawyers. | ||
| And I tell you what, they have been really good. | ||
| Brooke Rollins, the Ag Secretary, Pam Bondi. | ||
| On top of it. | ||
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But Kash Patel is going to be a key. | |
| It's going to be a key. | ||
| Best. | ||
| We'll figure it out over the holidays or something. | ||
| I want to spend more time about your dad and the Battle of the Bulge. | ||
| We always do specials over the Christmas holidays and the Bulge. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Thanks for what you do. | ||
| Coach. | ||
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We've got a tough time. | |
| Always an honor to have you in here, sir. | ||
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Hey, we're just now putting the gloves on. | |
| As long as we've got a couple of guys like you, a couple of men and women like you, we're going to get through this thing. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Senator Tommy Toverville, Great State, Alabama. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| break back in a moment. | ||
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It gets garbage. | |
| I think that it's shameful that people that celebrate Doge coming in, and yet we're going to vote for another billion dollars to be added to the deficit. | ||
| And so it's ironic. | ||
| It's opposite of what the Doge Commission is trying to do. | ||
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So am I voting for it? | |
| No, I'm not. | ||
| We're just fundamentally unserious about spending. | ||
| And as long as you've got a blank check, you can't shrink government. | ||
| If you can't shrink government, you can't live free. | ||
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What could you tell us about this bill and does it disturb you? | |
| Some Republicans seem to be very critical of it. | ||
| No, look, those are three of my great friends you just quoted there. | ||
| They're not wrong about the government debt and deficits. | ||
| It bothers us all. | ||
| We've got it in our central focus. | ||
| And when we start the new Congress in January, when Republicans are in control and Doge is working on all six cylinders, we're going to be able to scale back the size and scope of government. | ||
| But before we get to that point, remember, right now we only control one half of one-third of the federal government. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| Stop with the one-half of the one-third, dude. | ||
| Stop at the one-half or the one-third. | ||
| Now that Senator Tuberville has left because I've got to be on my best behavior around him. | ||
| I respect this man so much. | ||
| I can be a savage right now because this is so unacceptable on so many different levels. | ||
| Just unacceptable. | ||
| It is unacceptable because... | ||
| Let's just leave the numbers aside for a second. | ||
| We're going to get to all that. | ||
| And I got maybe Richard Stern is going to join me. | ||
| I got Natalie and walk through some of the math. | ||
| But it's not even about the math right now. | ||
| We have to be the party. | ||
| What these folks who have low propensity, low information voters... | ||
| Remember that you guys went out and knocked on doors and Scott Pressler changed the mosaic? | ||
| All of that. | ||
| Everything that you did over all the years. | ||
| Go back. | ||
| I mean, day in and day out. | ||
| The posse, the vanguard, the cadre, plus others. | ||
| The pitch to African-Americans, Hispanics, whites, people that have not, Asians, people who have not voted for us before, wanted to turn out to all the Trump people and all of MAGA, some who were despondent but turned them out. | ||
| But news, we have to be the party of stop effing around. | ||
| Stop effing around. | ||
| This is serious. | ||
| I gave this speech the other night and I couldn't develop it because at 11 o'clock at night after people have had a couple of adult beverages is maybe not the time to give a recent thing. | ||
| But here's the point. | ||
| When we get to $40 trillion and we're adding a trillion dollars every day, every decision, I say this over again, they're going to be hard, tough decisions. | ||
| Hard and tough. | ||
| And some people maybe have depended on some stuff from government are not going to have it anymore. | ||
| And yes, You're going to have to bridge this gap. | ||
| Tax is going to have to rise on the wealthy and the billionaires. | ||
| That's going to happen. | ||
| That's going to be an ugly fight. | ||
| And yes, you've got to get economic growth and you have to get the supply side. | ||
| I got that. | ||
| I can do the math and I can see how it comes together. | ||
| But you've got to start by an attitude that we're kind of in this and here's what it is, not what just happened. | ||
| This is more of the same. | ||
| And let me say this. | ||
| He's a pathological liar. | ||
| He stood up, and we get that thing from yesterday. | ||
| Get that cut. | ||
| He said, you know, this was really thin. | ||
| It was short. | ||
| It was just a couple of pages until, you know, a few days ago. | ||
| He said a few days ago. | ||
| When, you know, these natural disasters included... | ||
| This thing's 1,500 pages long, and it's highly negotiated. | ||
| And the Democrats got $10 for every $1 of things. | ||
| It shouldn't be any dollars. | ||
| In the emergency FEMA... Until we can show that there's no cash in there, it's not a problem of total cash amount right now. | ||
| It's a problem that the Biden regime has purposely not gotten the money to people. | ||
| And we haven't had enough hammer, and you've got to get to President Trump doing it on day one. | ||
| I'm not saying we don't need more need to retool FEMA, but does it actually have to happen today? | ||
| Or what's the diminished amount? | ||
| Because this is like a bridge loan to a company. | ||
| This is a bridge. | ||
| The farmers, I understand the farmers are up against it, and maybe you need the $10 billion there. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I assume that you can still go, and look, I know they're pushing off their creditors, and it's hard, because you haven't had a farm bill in two years. | ||
| But even there, if it can be done, just to bridge it, to get into, because the whole purpose of this is to get some President Trump's team, and particularly Doge, and get their hands around this. | ||
| But this fantasy, he's sitting there, we've got to wait to, no, you're a liar. | ||
| You understand what the process is here. | ||
| I've said this over and over again, and dude, you're the professional. | ||
| I'm just some guy screaming in a microphone, and I understand it quite well. | ||
| The appropriations process, and to get Doge in with OMB. But you have to do it now. | ||
| You can't put all this stuff in there, and particularly, how do you have the gall? | ||
| With everything's going on, And the lived experience of the working class, the middle class of this country, they're running up $1.4 trillion of credit card debt. | ||
| And I think, I don't know, 10% or 20% is non-performing. | ||
| And even the ones that are performing, these kids are getting buried more and more and more back at credit cards at an APR of, I don't know, 25%. | ||
| How can you give yourself a raise? | ||
| Have you guys done a job that you deserve? | ||
| And said, well, no more good people are gonna come in Congress. | ||
| I don't know that. | ||
| I see, I know tons of good, first I know a ton of good people, great people that 175,000 bucks a year, not bad. | ||
| Those people I want in Congress. | ||
| I've said this over and over again. | ||
| I had the opportunity When I came out of the Navy, which I was a naval officer and a very elite destroyer, first in his class, first ship in his class, the reality in the sports class, had an elite wardroom of all brigade commanders from, you know, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Villanova, all the big ROTC programs and the Naval Academy. | ||
| And then to go back to the Pentagon, and then to go to Georgetown, the National Security, and then to go to Harvard, and then to go to Goldman Sachs. | ||
| I've been in the room with the best of the best in whatever their segments are. | ||
| And I say this all the time. | ||
| If you gave me the choice of being governed by the top 100 partners at Goldman Sachs or a combination of McKinsey, Booz Allen, and Goldman Sachs, and throw in corporate America. | ||
| Or the first 100 people that walked in at any Trump rally with a red ball cap on. | ||
| I'll take that 100 every day of the week. | ||
| So when you sit there and go, what, $179,000? | ||
| You can't get their excuses. | ||
| You can't get any good people. | ||
| And by the way, there's all kind of pockets out there that you get to expensive. | ||
| But you say you can't get any more good people. | ||
| Hey, guess what? | ||
| There are plenty of people in this country making $52,000, the average salary in this country, $52,000 a year, that would come here and set things right. | ||
| How did you have the gall and to put it in? | ||
| And if you were going to do it, you've got to go up front and say, by the way, I'm putting this CR and it's 1,500 pages and here's what we did and here's what I did. | ||
| And don't sit behind a thing as a gutless little coward, Polly Pockets, and sit there and just mislead people. | ||
| Just a bald-faced lie. | ||
| You're so Christian. | ||
| How about the Christian? | ||
| Just grab one of the Ten Commandments. | ||
| Thou shall not lie. | ||
| This is a lie. | ||
| And then to add in a pay increase in the opt-out of Obamacare, and you don't even put that, that's in boldface, and the first thing you should have done is, hey, I'm going to tell you something. | ||
| We're going to give ourselves a pay increase, and we're going to opt out of Obamacare. | ||
| Do that as your preamble. | ||
| Don't make people go into the document. | ||
| 1,500 pages? | ||
| You know, this audience, the vanguard, the posse, we hate CRs, anything, even short-term, we hate them, we hate the 72-hour ones. | ||
| We were prepared to do this just to kick it into President Trump, because Russ Vogt wants it, and President Trump wants it, and the Doge guys, it all kind of comes together, and even then they've got to rush for 60 days, because it's just going to be to March. | ||
| So it's 90 days. | ||
| 90 days goes by like that. | ||
| And what do we have here? | ||
| It's not serious. | ||
| And to sit there and say that, well, you know, these people are going to come in and then we're going to be serious. | ||
| Are you stopped? | ||
| Just treat us like adults. | ||
| Stop with the moronic talking down to people because that's talking down to people. | ||
| You think this audience is dumb? | ||
| They're not dumb. | ||
| They know everything about this bill now because overnight they're picking through it and I see it up, you know, Grace and people show me on social media to pick through the thing. | ||
| Why? | ||
| They know it's vitally important. | ||
| They know it's vitally important. | ||
| So you have to understand that this is a hard no. | ||
| And when Elon put this thing out last night that I think this should not pass or this should not pass, and I did, hey, this is a hard pass. | ||
| I should have said this should be the motion to vacate. | ||
| It should be the motion to vacate. | ||
| That's what it should be. | ||
| Because now you're going to set up a fight in early January, and he's got to be turfed out. | ||
| He's got to be turfed out over this. | ||
| This is a hard no. | ||
| And anybody that votes for this for whatever reason, even the emergency measures in the agriculture, you can't vote for this just for those two things. | ||
| And there should be a demand immediately of what's happening over the agriculture department for any cashes over there and for FEMA. And demand that these guys know exactly where the money's going. | ||
| And then going to have to tell people, and if there's some de minimis amount, a couple of bain or something, you can get out immediately and bridge people for 30 days, then maybe that is what is done. | ||
| But other than that, it should be one or two lines. | ||
| All this other stuff has got to go. | ||
| It has to go. | ||
| What has to happen in 2025, 400 days from now, that's nothing. | ||
| Basically, President Trump, we're five weeks away from his inauguration. | ||
| His third victory, his second term. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And the one-year anniversary, and everything's got to get done in the first year, in all likelihood. | ||
| Because by that time, they're going to be ganged up on you, and the media's going to be ganged up on you, and the deportation's got to be started. | ||
| You've got to end the wars. | ||
| But particularly, I keep saying this, the third part of that. | ||
| Because the bond market could turf everybody out of here. | ||
| And the bond market's been jiggy the last couple of weeks because of what Biden's doing and what Powell's doing and what Yellen's doing. | ||
| They're already setting up structural issues for President Trump at the get-go, and Powell cannot today do another rate cut. | ||
| The bond market is going to determine a lot of the success of President Trump's second term. | ||
| It's obvious. | ||
| That's how this thing's financed. | ||
| And 400 days from today, we're at $40 trillion, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I said this, there's a trillion dollars every 100 days. | ||
| That's a runaway train that's going to run over Vivek, and it's going to run over Elon. | ||
| It's going to run over a lot more people than that. | ||
| Because now you get the law of large numbers. | ||
| The thing is like metastasizing. | ||
| And nobody, it's, and you do this, this CR, which is the simplest, easiest thing we will do from the day President Trump won and saved the House and won the Senate. | ||
| This great historic sweeping victory that for years you worked on, this audience. | ||
| This is the most important thing that's happened. | ||
| This CR, this is simple, this is easy. | ||
| This is not a jump shot, this is a layup. | ||
| And the system revealed itself. | ||
| That system has to be shattered. | ||
| It has to be broken. | ||
| It has to be shattered. | ||
| That's pure cartel, Washington cartel. | ||
| They're all getting paid off. | ||
| And you lied about it. | ||
| They've been working on this for weeks and weeks and weeks. | ||
| You can tell by the document. | ||
| If you haven't had a chance to do it, get it up on your screen and just flip through it. | ||
| It's a highly negotiated legal contract. | ||
| It can't go on. | ||
| It cannot continue. | ||
| One, this is a hard no. | ||
| But even deeper than that, it's like, you anticipate that Johnson's going to be somebody that could power through and show leadership and moral courage? | ||
| Did Trump not show moral courage coming back from Mar-a-Lago and doing everything he did, understanding what was in front of him, and then the physical courage after Butler? | ||
| We need that on Capitol Hill. | ||
| President Trump can't do this alone. | ||
| He can't. | ||
| This is why the cabinet is so important. | ||
| You heard Tuberville. | ||
| Have you heard that anywhere? | ||
| About how organized cash is, how organized Pete Hexeth is. | ||
| And Tuberville is a tough, tough audience. | ||
| He's a very sophisticated guy. | ||
| That's one of the reasons I love him. | ||
| He's got that kind of southern practicality, openness, and, you know, savvy and smarts, and being very intelligent. | ||
| He sees it. | ||
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Short break now. | |
| Democrats are still in charge of the Senate and the White House. | ||
| So what we've done is the conservative play call here, my friends that you just interviewed there, or that those clips were played, were part of this decision. | ||
| We decided, even though we don't normally like short-term stopgap funding measures, it made sense here. | ||
| Instead of doing Chuck Schumer and Biden's spending for 2025, we pushed this decision into March. | ||
| It'll be March 14th. | ||
| So the feature there is that we'll have Republican-controlled Congress and Trump back in the White House, and we get to decide spending for 2025. | ||
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So that was a good thing. - So how did you lose the Freedom Caucus and the moderate members? - This is the sausage-making process, okay? | |
| Here's what this bill entails. | ||
| It's a short-term funding extension until March 14, and that would have been an easy thing relatively to pass. | ||
| But here's what happened. | ||
| We also had to add, due to circumstances outside of any of our control, emergency funding. | ||
| We have two major emergencies. | ||
| We had a record historic hurricane season that we all know, Helene and Milton and the rest, that destroyed Okay, yes, but we don't know if it's $100 billion that needs to be done right now. | ||
| Let's see the math. | ||
| Show people. | ||
| We're not debating that the folks in North Carolina and other folks down in Florida got to get the relief. | ||
| We got that. | ||
| But I'm not sold on the fact that it was like when they came in with Syria years ago. | ||
| Oh, the chemical weapons. | ||
| Oh, yeah, really? | ||
| Show me some evidence. | ||
| I come from an evidence base. | ||
| This is why we've been around the pandemic, around the J6 community, right on all of it. | ||
| We asked to actually look at evidence and facts. | ||
| You just use that crutch and you just throw it out there. | ||
| Oh, it's $100 billion. | ||
| Let's just do that because we can pass it. | ||
| We have to do it, but let's find out. | ||
| This is a bridge just to get us 30 days, 60 days, getting to President Trump. | ||
| So President Trump's running the deal. | ||
| But certainly your attitude and mentality is not the attitude and mentality that is going to get us there. | ||
| This reminds me. | ||
| Now more than ever, I need everybody in the audience to do this, because we've got to get you up to speed, because good God, if it's not for you, this thing may be done. | ||
| I mean that. | ||
| Because guess what we're going to have to do here? | ||
| We need some, you know, the metaphorical wet work. | ||
| We've got to man the ramparts, got to light people up today. | ||
| You cannot, under any circumstances, vote for this bill, and you've got to tell them flat out, I would. | ||
| If you vote for a pay raise for yourself, you vote for someone that's buried in their pay raise, and you vote for an opt-in of Obamacare, and I can't, you're going to do that, and I ain't getting a raise, I don't care what you're going to get turfed out of here. | ||
| You're never going back to Congress. | ||
| That's the attitude you've got to take now. | ||
| This is why Birch Gold, hey, I'm just saying, it's $40 trillion 400 days from now, as sure as the turning of the earth. | ||
| And we're never going to pay off a penny of that face amount of that debt. | ||
| Not one penny will we ever pay off. | ||
| Because folks, not the net payment, but the gross payment on interest is going to be, I don't know, $1.2, $1.3, $1.4 trillion all in. | ||
| Well, Steve, isn't that a little high? | ||
| Hey, I haven't been wrong yet. | ||
| And the trillion dollars every hundred days. | ||
| Don't buy gifts to the kids. | ||
| Don't buy gifts to the grandkids and your children sitting around the tree. | ||
| If you allow this to happen, we're just burning it all down. | ||
| They say, oh, abandon all you guys do. | ||
| Your hair's on fire, burn it. | ||
| No, this audience, no. | ||
| We want to save it. | ||
| Yes, it's got to be purged and reformed. | ||
| And look at this thing up here. | ||
| It's so corrupt and so incompetent and so gutless. | ||
| Why didn't you demand, why didn't you guys demand when he wouldn't show you the thing, why didn't you go in and kick down the door and say, look, we're running up here in the 20s, you're not going to play any games, you're not going to give us something and not look like a fool, because you all look like fools. | ||
| You can't blame him with Johnson, he's got to go. | ||
| He's got to go. | ||
| When people are sitting there where President Trump supports him, well hey, President Trump supports him until he doesn't support him. | ||
| President Trump supports him until he doesn't support him. | ||
| If somebody's got to show some leadership here, then hey, I'll take it. | ||
| I'll take that one. | ||
| You know, in the Navy, you don't volunteer, but you got to do it. | ||
| You got to do it. | ||
| Somebody's got to do this. | ||
| Birchgold.com. | ||
| Slash banned. | ||
| One thing, this is why I'm so proud. | ||
| I'll check today because I've been running around doing so much stuff behind the scenes to make sure that the end of the dollar empire is at the modern monetary theory. | ||
| It's the idea. | ||
| You can tell how they think. | ||
| They just think they can print this stuff forever. | ||
| Oh, and if you get in a situation that's a downturn or bad, you can just raise taxes. | ||
| Well, that's not that easy, folks. | ||
| We're going to see that later. | ||
| Do you understand the... | ||
| Well, I know you do. | ||
| I keep saying that. | ||
| I'm talking to them because they're going to see the clips. | ||
| This is what happens when you don't take care of business. | ||
| When people up here are supposed to be fiduciaries and you don't take care of business, when are you going to take care of it? | ||
| It's like with the rise of Hitler. | ||
| It's a perfect example. | ||
| When you don't take care of business, when you can take care of business, like I said, when things start to metastasize... | ||
| Because of scale, they take on a different, you know, Stalin used to say this. | ||
| Quantity has a quality all its own. | ||
| Quantity has a quality all its own. | ||
| When you're 40 trillion and adding a trillion dollars every hundred days, Because you haven't gotten here this and people and you don't have economic growth, real growth. | ||
| You get all this phony growth and more Wall Street speculation because the tap is on six and a half or seven trillion dollars a year. | ||
| Of that you're just printing money, literally just printing money most of the time just to cover it. | ||
| It's irreversible. | ||
| I've said this in the concept of the three converging things, the kinetic war, which is bad enough, of the Third World War. | ||
| The 15, 10, 12 to 15 million people in this country that are not saying it's got to go. | ||
| Those are massive tasks that other generations would suck up an entire generation. | ||
| That ain't even the hard stuff. | ||
| The hard stuff is the middle, is the finances. | ||
| Because here, that may be irreversible. | ||
| Scott Besson, Scott Besson, that guy who runs around his hair on fire, he says, hey, this is the last time you're going to have a chance to do some cuts, do something smart to still do a supply set, which means on the production side. | ||
| And then we get this today. | ||
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You're either serious or you're not. | |
| This audience is serious. | ||
| We'll go to the ramparts in this, and hey, guess what? | ||
| Everybody, anybody that even thinks of voting for this has got to be turfed out. | ||
| I don't want to hear your excuse. | ||
| There are no excuses. | ||
| And Johnson's a disgrace, and the people in his leadership are a disgrace. | ||
| Jordan and Scalise, where have you guys been? | ||
| Why do we have to hear this? | ||
| We've got to drop. | ||
| It's so bad, you should have said, hey, we can't keep this from people. | ||
| And why did none of you guys walk to the microphone and say, hey, look, I want you to go to page 900 on the 1500 bill and see our pay raise. | ||
| Give me a profile in courage. | ||
| Man, I don't even know if we need the Book of Revelations today, right? | ||
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Incredible. | |
| After that great victory, this is the first big act you do? | ||
| Tells me everything I need to know about you. | ||
| You've shown me right there. | ||
| Short break. |
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