Dec. 17, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room. | ||
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Battleground. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| OK, welcome. | ||
| It's Monday, 16 December, year of our Lord, 2024. Thank you, Natalie, for tossing it to us. | ||
| And we're here. | ||
| We're in New York City, the world's financial capital. | ||
| Dave Brat. | ||
| Dave, I did a calculation today. | ||
| I think Dave is last man standing on our economic team. | ||
| Best in Secretary of Treasury. | ||
| Hassett, who we've had a good friend, is going to be over at NEC. Peter Navarro, Senior Counselor of Manufacturing and Trade. | ||
| Trenert and EJ are working out what they're going to do or not. | ||
| Let's assume that they somehow are involved and go in. | ||
| I think that leaves me to you. | ||
| Of the crack unit we had, we now have Dave Brat, but it's pretty good that we got the professor with us. | ||
| You're going to have to shoulder a big burden. | ||
| Are you going to go in? | ||
| People ask me all the time, are you going in? | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| I would love to kind of message between the populist base, the war room posse, and D.C. Would you go over to work in N.E.C. and be a comms guy? | ||
| Sure, absolutely. | ||
| Oh, we can make that work. | ||
| We'll get you an interview this week. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because we do this on air. | ||
| I haven't seen, here's the reason I haven't seen Brad. | ||
| Because you went to Ukraine. | ||
| Always we bring the whole team to the New York Young Republicans Club dinner because it's the club of Teddy Roosevelt. | ||
| It's really the biggest populist nationalist club in the country. | ||
| They do such a great job. | ||
| And here they've really set these boroughs on fire. | ||
| So I invited the whole team and Dave had a table. | ||
| I mean, all my buddies, you know, Mike Davis, Dave, everybody. | ||
| And of course, I couldn't sit down because the thing last night was... | ||
| It started very small years ago, and I think I talked at the first one. | ||
| But I haven't seen you. | ||
| The place last night was crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because by the time I stood up, they asked, hey, we'd be the keynote speaker. | ||
| Last year was President Trump. | ||
| Now, President Trump did show up at 1030 and spoke for an hour and a half, and it was mesmerized. | ||
| I think it's the best he's ever done. | ||
| It was like he was both Mort Sahl and Trump. | ||
| He was talking about the headlines. | ||
| And this was really the kickoff. | ||
| The primary started less than four weeks later. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But last night, I got up there at 11, and there was a 2,000... | ||
| So first, it's a huge space. | ||
| It's the most classic space I think. | ||
| Huge space. | ||
| These people have been drinking since 6 o'clock. | ||
| The cocktail party started at 6, but most of them have been partying for two or three nights here in New York City, right? | ||
| Receptions. | ||
| So, because this is the big annual dinner weekend, and given the victory and what this club did for the victory... | ||
| So I get up there, and I had kind of a speech since it's New York City, and it's finance guys. | ||
| I was calling about the bond market. | ||
| I had all this thing. | ||
| And as soon as I walked out to the back, and what takes me out, it's pitch black, but there's 2,000 people. | ||
| And I can tell they're five hours into having a good time. | ||
| And it sounded like a 747 jet. | ||
| So I just got up there and said, heck with it. | ||
| I'm throwing bombs. | ||
| I'm trying to go full Trump. | ||
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Even Nigel. | |
| Nigel couldn't even... | ||
| Tamp them down. | ||
| The crowd was rowdy. | ||
| And Nigel's great, man. | ||
| He's yelling at them. | ||
| He couldn't tamp them down. | ||
| No, they were too loud. | ||
| They were just, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, it's too much. | ||
| You got Corey and Nigel. | ||
| Next Prime Minister, right? | ||
| Next Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. | ||
| So, I haven't seen you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you went to Ukraine and there are a couple of guys in the folks, a couple of people in like the chat and even on Twitter to Grace. | ||
| Where's Brad? | ||
| Why hasn't Bannon mentioned Brad? | ||
| And I'm kind of telling Grace, he's on a top secret mission in Ukraine. | ||
| I don't want to say he's in Ukraine. | ||
| They make kidnapping. | ||
| The Russian agents make kidnapping. | ||
| Or the oligarchs make kidnapping. | ||
| I was nervous. | ||
| Tell us about Ukraine. | ||
| Well, it was great. | ||
| I went with a bunch of Christian leaders from universities and think tanks and heritages and all these folks. | ||
| And we got to meet with the top, you know, the generals. | ||
| What was the purpose? | ||
| Religious leaders. | ||
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Why did you go? | |
| Why did you go with that crowd? | ||
| They want to get conservatives on their side for more weapons in the war. | ||
| And I'm not there. | ||
| But you're saying it's pretty obvious what they're doing. | ||
| And I don't blame them. | ||
| No, they're Ukrainian people. | ||
| But the guys in charge want to get... | ||
| More funding. | ||
| And they say, hey, I get opinion leaders and smart people from the Christian right, right, that should buy into this. | ||
| And you're sympathetic, right, toward the Ukrainian people. | ||
| But, you know, on this show, Mearsheimer going way back. | ||
| But how can you be sympathetic? | ||
| I keep saying the guys that supported the Bolsheviks and the Soviets are the guys anti-Putin, and Putin's a bad guy, but the Russian people are part of the Judeo-Christian West. | ||
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So how do we justify a war of one Christian people? | |
| Hey, there's not a lot of us in the world, right? | ||
| The Christians should be fighting each other. | ||
| They are pawns, right? | ||
| Our CIA and State Department did a coup back in 2014, right? | ||
| And then you've got, RFK's got a great summary of all this kind of thing. | ||
| After the wall came down, Gorbachev got rid of 400,000 troops in East Germany. | ||
| Nuclear weapons. | ||
| Yeah, and then he said, I want one condition from James Baker III, and that's, you're not going to move one inch to the east. | ||
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Right. | |
| And so we lied. | ||
| We took over 14 NATO countries since. | ||
| And they got rid of their nuclear weapons. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The Soviets got rid of the nuclear weapons in Ukraine. | ||
| And we asked Ukraine to do that, too. | ||
| So we left them unarmed. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then it turns out all the- No, the Russians didn't get rid of theirs. | ||
| I'm saying they allowed the nuclear weapons in Kazakhstan and Ukraine were taken out. | ||
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Yes. | |
| So two big launch plans. | ||
| Yeah, we wanted that to happen, too. | ||
| So they're defenseless. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So we're guilty, right? | ||
| And I had to explain, I said, I'm sorry for what the U.S. policy has done to you. | ||
| That's why I'm sympathetic. | ||
| But there's no way out right now. | ||
| I said, the longer you wait, the further Russia moves west. | ||
| What is, when they have you guys, and people should know, you know, Brad, being a former congressman and now a worm co-host, but particularly down at Liberty, is a very, you know, guy at the top level. | ||
| When they have you in the room with these other top-level guys, just give the audience, what's the pitch? | ||
| What do they sit there and tell you guys to try to get your support? | ||
| They bring in the generals and the military leaders. | ||
| We met with all the highest, the Orthodox leaders, the Jewish leaders, the Muftis, the Christian Catholic leaders, and they're all, you know, they're being bombed, right? | ||
| So the pitch is our people are being bombed. | ||
| So in the intermediate run, you're stuck, right? | ||
| We're in a terrible position because we led them down the primrose path. | ||
| Do they know that? | ||
| Oh yeah, no, they said it. | ||
| What do you mean they said it? | ||
| They blame the West? | ||
| No, they don't even blame because they're in a terrible spot, right? | ||
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So I said, you know, we're using you. | |
| And they go, we know, but we need that. | ||
| We want to be used because it's our only way out. | ||
| And in all the NATO countries, I found out little secrets along the way, they have to go through our U.S. Defense Department for weapons systems, right? | ||
| So we got a built-in monopoly there. | ||
| And so then that makes you even more cynical. | ||
| I mean, and then you just keep learning and learning and learning. | ||
| What else did you learn? | ||
| Well, just the history and the oligarchs, and I think I see, I think I learned Trump's secret sauce, is he doesn't even deal on a level of nation states. | ||
| I think he goes in and talks to the oligarchs who run countries, including here. | ||
| And they got a choice, like you said earlier on today's show in the morning. | ||
| They got a choice to make coming up. | ||
| You can either have the French Revolution or you can have this constitutional populist economic revolt. | ||
| Done the proper way, where you pay attention to the American people again. | ||
| The CCP, right, the Chinese should get rid of Xi Jinping. | ||
| And Ukraine never should allow the movie star in. | ||
| Zelensky. | ||
| Yeah, and then we turned him, right, our State Department aficionados who are mentioned on the show every day. | ||
| You're going full conspiracy theory. | ||
| Do you actually believe this after going to Ukraine? | ||
| Is there evidence in front of your eyes when you go there that reinforces your beliefs or the war room's beliefs that we talk about all the time? | ||
| After being there and being pitched for a week, understanding they needed you and needed these other guys to come back and say, hey, we should give the Ukraine more weapons. | ||
| Do you believe that your thinking beforehand was informed by facts on the ground as you saw them? | ||
| Yeah, nothing changed the overarching narrative. | ||
| What changed is your heart, right? | ||
| I mean, in theology, there's systematic theology, and then there's pastoral care, right? | ||
| So you can be correct systematic theology-wise, right? | ||
| You got the right answer. | ||
| But if your heart doesn't reach out to the people who are getting killed in the meantime, right, the Russians and the Ukrainians, and, you know, I saw Tucker's interview with the Russian Lavrov. | ||
| What did you think of that? | ||
| He's appealing to human rights language in Russia. | ||
| And I'm going, come on, man. | ||
| Smart guy. | ||
| Shifty guy. | ||
| And our church and our left and our liberals can't use that lingo for a win. | ||
| I mean, he's putting the terms of the ethical debate out in front of you, and they're a disaster. | ||
| You know, self-determination and all this kind of thing. | ||
| For the audience. | ||
| There is, according to President Trump and some other things we've seen, a million, up to a million Ukrainians, maybe 500,000 troops and maybe 500,000 civilians. | ||
| And President Trump keeps repeating this number of six to 700,000 Russian troops. | ||
| That puts you somewhere a million and a half to a million 750, almost two million dead. | ||
| And injured. | ||
| And injured. | ||
| Did you get a sense when you were there, it's that level of destruction? | ||
| No, but we were in Kiev and still a distance away. | ||
| And Kiev is kind of the geopolitical power center where the MI5 and the England intelligence and our CIA and everybody's there, right? | ||
| So I think that is kind of understood. | ||
| And so you don't get the truth. | ||
| They didn't take you to the front? | ||
| No, I was... | ||
| I don't have your hearty military. | ||
| You were close enough. | ||
| Now, are there air raids? | ||
| Is there danger in Kiev? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They bombed a children's hospital two years ago. | ||
| So we went toward that. | ||
| How bad is it? | ||
| And you just see bombs, what they do, right? | ||
| So it's kind of interesting. | ||
| They hit boom and it takes out a 30, 40, 40 thing. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But then the brick kind of stops it. | ||
| But in reverse, it goes out 100 yards and all the glass for hundreds of yards behind it is gone, wiped out. | ||
| So you just, I mean, you just learn things that are, only travel is going to get you that. | ||
| Do you think that on MSNBC or any of these people, you know, Georgia Maloney or Liz Cheney or anybody, Joy Ann Reed, Rachel Maddow, I don't mean to throw out women. | ||
| I mean, plenty of guys on MSNBC, Admiral Stavridis, night after night. | ||
| You know, this war's not in the third year. | ||
| We were getting hammered every day. | ||
| We're talking Russian point. | ||
| They... | ||
| They literally led, like Mershama said, they led these people down the primrose path. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Do they know now they've been sold out because we're kind of at the end of this thing? | ||
| President Trump's going to come in and make a deal, but there's no more big armament sales coming. | ||
| Biden's shipping money, but that's all going to stop here shortly. | ||
| Mike Benz has it right. | ||
| Most of these groups are paid CIA cutouts. | ||
| The USAID's budget is way bigger than the CIA. They're paid to message. | ||
| They hire anything with the Atlantic name in front of it, right, is a suspect. | ||
| And so they're doing this narrative. | ||
| And my religious friends, right, they would say, the CIA had nothing to do with 14. And I'm like, okay, you're a Christian. | ||
| I'm a Christian. | ||
| And this is what Christians should do. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| Not over. | ||
| They say the CIA had nothing to do with the color revolution. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| I said, okay, good. | ||
| I said, you're a Christian. | ||
| I'm a Christian. | ||
| Will you sign your name right here? | ||
| I'm going to write a statement. | ||
| The CIA had nothing to do with Ukraine in 14. And he goes... | ||
| No. | ||
| Wouldn't sign it, right? | ||
| So what the Christian church needs to do is just be the conveyor of truth, right? | ||
| It's not our job to do geopolitics. | ||
| But not just the truth. | ||
| Isn't there a role for Christianity in both Catholicism and Orthodox? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| To try to somehow reunite just for peace. | ||
| I'm not saying I know people have different practices, so you can't do it. | ||
| But the Russian people are an Orthodox Christian people. | ||
| You have both Orthodox Christianity, Protestant Christianity, Roman Catholicism, all of it. | ||
| Our differences are not that deep that we can't be the unifying force to lay this world. | ||
| Why is that not happening? | ||
| Well, just look in this country. | ||
| I mean, you got two things. | ||
| You got just war theory going way back. | ||
| But then in the modern sense, you've got the, you know, Tim Kaine in the Senate always used to talk about the War Powers Act every year. | ||
| That was his horse. | ||
| And now not one mention of it. | ||
| You know, if you can't even do that... | ||
| During Iraq and Afghanistan, during the Bush years. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So if you can't even mention... | ||
| I mean, at a minimum, the Christians are saying, we want weapons. | ||
| Hang on, hang on. | ||
| Then you slow down and say, no, War Powers Act first. | ||
| We want to get our audience up to speed on nomenclature. | ||
| You say just war. | ||
| What is the theory of just war? | ||
| Who's the Christian brain in back of it? | ||
| What does it mean? | ||
| Because the gospel tells me we should turn the other cheek. | ||
| No, no, it doesn't say that. | ||
| That's the backhand. | ||
| If someone slights you, you know, if someone cold cocks you, Peter and these guys took out the knives and whatever. | ||
| But if someone slights you, you know, with a backhanded slap, you're a Christian, okay, right? | ||
| You win, big man or whatever, right? | ||
| So the ego shouldn't get involved in that. | ||
| But just worth it, there's just eight criteria, a proportionate response. | ||
| Where did it come from? | ||
| Who thought it up? | ||
| St. Augustine and the Catholic fathers. | ||
| Thomas Aquinas, the church fathers. | ||
| The church fathers, people would say they had to come up with something over the pacifist nature of the Gospels because the Roman Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, they all want to get it on and fight. | ||
| The house stooge Christian theologian, i.e. | ||
| the Dave Brad of his time, has to come up with some intellectual infrastructure to justify it. | ||
| You don't need to come up with it. | ||
| If you're steeped in theology, God the Father Almighty had no problem wiping out evil nations. | ||
| Yeah, I think I read the Old Testament. | ||
| He's kind of an angry guy the entire time. | ||
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It's not a group hug in the Old Testament. | |
| If you don't follow, God makes a covenant with the people, right? | ||
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You follow me, and then I'm going to take care of you. | |
| You don't follow him, and he lets you go in the desert. | ||
| In this country, right now, and we're talking about serious stuff here, and if this country, you know, Trump's a one-off, right? | ||
| He's a Romans 13 warrior. | ||
| God has inserted him at this point in history to do great things. | ||
| But that's a one-off, and there ain't a ton of Trumps in the pipeline, right? | ||
| And so now it's up to the Judeo-Christian West to get the first things first. | ||
| The faith led to the private property rights, led to the rule of law, led to the free market system, which pays for our strong military. | ||
| In that order, it all happened historically in that order. | ||
| And in 1776, only the Judeo-Christian West had human rights language. | ||
| Only the Judeo-Christian West started modern economic growth. | ||
| Everyone else followed the cookbook, and they're not doing a good job, and they're all crashing and burning because of it. | ||
| And we don't teach any of this, right? | ||
| That the Judeo-Christian West laid the entire foundation for the meat we're talking about here. | ||
| Everyone just assumes, oh, that's the easy stuff, right? | ||
| The rule of law. | ||
| Like, that's some easy thing? | ||
| That was the heart that laid the foundation for the great success. | ||
| I'm going to go back to the second, but give me, what do you mean when you say he's a Romans 13 leader and he may be a one-off? | ||
| Explain that to the audience. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's in the gospel, right? | ||
| The book of Romans is probably the best, you know, most systematic theology. | ||
| Written by Paul. | ||
| By St. Paul. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so in Romans 13. Pauline Christianity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so he says, you know, the role of the state, and some of this has been used to, you know, by some denominations to separate off the church from the state totally, which is a total error. | ||
| But in Romans 13 says, you know, God has ordained the rulers of this earth and given them power to wield the sword and to establish justice, period. | ||
| Where the church doesn't do that, right? | ||
| The role of the church is to offer up the sacrament and grace in that realm. | ||
| But the realm of the state is the crushing power of crude justice, right? | ||
| And so Trump is going to do that. | ||
| You see already, right? | ||
| People are coming to the peace table because—and the left. | ||
| The other thing I did learn, right, from Benz and from going to Ukraine— The left and the globalists, they really are scared stiff. | ||
| They're seeing these populist revolutions around the world, right? | ||
| Hungary, Ukraine, in a sense. | ||
| They're hearing us now. | ||
| Brazil, here, everywhere, right? | ||
| The Netherlands. | ||
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Argentina. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And so that's coming. | ||
| And they know that these populist countries will not support the multilateral institutions, World Bank, IMF, United Nations, all this UNESCO education stuff that hasn't done- And a WHO. They haven't served us, and we're upset about it. | ||
| And so they know, and they're doing everything they can to defend all those tentacles. | ||
| You mentioned – so I said today on the show that there's two alternatives here for the future. | ||
| You have the populist nationalist right, which is leading up from the streets, a kind of a workers and middle class revolt against the established order. | ||
| And we're doing it through the ballot box. | ||
| We're doing it through social media. | ||
| And the other is you have the young, wealthy, rich kid who essentially gunned down a guy, shot him in the back in point blank range after lying in wait. | ||
| And I said those two alternatives. | ||
| You have to have a revolution of 1776 with that basis or you're going to have the French Revolution of 1792. | ||
| Explain the difference of that to the people, the theoretical and religious and spiritual underpinnings of those two choices. | ||
| Those two choices are the French Revolution came out of Rousseau. | ||
| And he was the only smart liberal, according to Alan Bloom. | ||
| Go read The Closing American Mind. | ||
| If you really want to understand a deep, smart liberal in the Emil on education, he was going to turn Emil around by changing every single institution that that kid would interact with from year one, and then year two, and year three. | ||
| That's a liberal. | ||
| It's not like the modern liberals, where you tweak a tax policy or agriculture policy, and you think you're going to change the world. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| And so the real debate there is that utopian view of you can change the world to make human nature good versus the biblical view is human nature is quite fallen. | ||
| And then you structure a Madisonian government with checks and balances, which unfortunately is not in effect anymore. | ||
| There are no checks and balances. | ||
| That's what the deep state and the administrative state is. | ||
| They have captured Congress. | ||
| They put a ton of power in the executive. | ||
| And then with Chevron, you're seeing, right, the power of the executive now is going to be constrained, finally. | ||
| But in a nutshell, you have the choice between chaos and anarchy and full-on democracy, not a republic, and the Judeo-Christian West and its ethics. | ||
| And even Karl Marx would argue from Christian premises about justice for the poor and all this stuff. | ||
| The left would argue using Judeo-Christian prophetic utterances In order to motivate the people, because I taught history of philosophy and ethics for 30 years. | ||
| All of the great schools of thought and philosophy, Kant and Aristotle and the utilitarians, Mill and Bentham, they have zero followers. | ||
| 70 billion- What do you mean? | ||
| I used to go around and give all the talks to the Lions Club and all this kind of thing. | ||
| I said, raise your hand if you follow any of those three. | ||
| And I said, raise your hand if you're a Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Confucian, whatever. | ||
| And every hand in the room goes up. | ||
| So we only live out religious ethical lives. | ||
| And the public school, you're not allowed to talk about the only ethical systems that people live. | ||
| So that's a major problem in this country. | ||
| Now we're falling apart because of that. | ||
| The Marxists came in and they claim no God, so they're allowed in. | ||
| And we claim God and we're out. | ||
| And that's got to be turned upside down. | ||
| When you're with these religious leaders and thought leaders, and that's why you've been invited. | ||
| And they were very good. | ||
| They were very good, by the way. | ||
| Well, no, so you're with a cutting edge of, and you're invited to Ukraine by the military and the intelligence services because they understand these are the people, the people in the United States, in at least one big section, the evangelical Christians, and the evangelical Christians have had the back of Israel, and Israel keeps getting support. | ||
| Huckabee's now the ambassador. | ||
| So these evangelical Christians and traditional Catholics are a group that we want to impress and get them on our side. | ||
| Because we see in Israel and the Middle East that they've traditionally had the back of Israel. | ||
| When you're together, do you ever have this conversation, which to me is the important, that in our own country it's falling apart, right? | ||
| And we need to rejuvenate here instead of, as the founders told us, not going abroad for monsters to slay. | ||
| Most everyone on that trip was a fairly high-level intellectual leader in their space. | ||
| And yeah, we would be in 90% agreement on all of it. | ||
| And then, you know, it's almost like I worked in the God Box 30 years ago at the, you know, across the street from the Supreme Court in D.C. when I was on a seminary political semester. | ||
| What's the God Box? | ||
| It's where all the Jewish groups and the Episcopalians... | ||
| Oh, I mean, right across. | ||
| Yes, yes, yes. | ||
| It was the Methodist building. | ||
| Yes, yes, yes, yes. | ||
| And so they would all meet there, and that's where I got my calling, right? | ||
| I was like... | ||
| These people are well-intentioned, nice people. | ||
| They want to do good for the world. | ||
| They want to help. | ||
| This is all liberals, right? | ||
| They take care of the poor, get peace. | ||
| There aren't any liberals left. | ||
| But back then, they didn't know any business or economics. | ||
| And so I had this senior guy that said, hey, Dave, why don't you do a PhD at American with me? | ||
| He was at the economic school there. | ||
| And then come back and help these people. | ||
| And I said, good. | ||
| And that's been my course ever since. | ||
| So, are they in agreement with you? | ||
| What's the 10% you don't agree with? | ||
| You said 9% you're in agreement with, particularly about the state of the country. | ||
| They have no awareness of this Mike Benz, C.I.A.P. State Department. | ||
| That's impossible. | ||
| They have no, no, no. | ||
| And the average American, if you sit, they have no idea. | ||
| Only this show, right? | ||
| I just got back from Florida. | ||
| They all knew, and I said, Mike Menz, anybody heard of this guy? | ||
| And because they watch you, they're all like, yeah, of course, Dave. | ||
| You know, they're getting feisty. | ||
| And it was great. | ||
| But outside of the war room, and that's why I tell people, share this show, this platform, because this is the hope to educate the American people. | ||
| What do you want to see? | ||
| I've only got a couple of minutes with you. | ||
| By the way, birchgold.com slash worm. | ||
| Now more than ever, Dave and I are going to be going through a lot of, I think, unsettling economic numbers over the next couple of weeks in the run-up. | ||
| The $40 trillion, 400 days from today, zero hedges reporting. | ||
| If you take the National Debt Clock and look at all the different perturbations, it's roughly $40 trillion. | ||
| That there's going to be essentially $2.5 or $3 trillion between now and Trump's first year, regardless of what Doge does, regardless of what President Trump does. | ||
| It's a runaway train. | ||
| It's a runaway train that's going to run us over. | ||
| Your observations. | ||
| All the economists in the country should roughly be fired for just grotesque negligence, right? | ||
| CBO has it $50 trillion, and there's no warning light. | ||
| Usually the bond market vigilantes come in, but they've stimulated things so grotesquely And in the morning show, you said, where did all that go? | ||
| Where did the $9 trillion in money printing go? | ||
| Where did the $2 trillion deficits every day go? | ||
| And then we're going to grow our way out of it. | ||
| And you know on the show, we've had the productivity's been going down for 70 years in a row. | ||
| But there's one point I just want to make quick. | ||
| And that is, if you put capital in the hands of the American people, they'll be okay. | ||
| Right now, the U.S. only has $70 trillion in capital over the years. | ||
| The total amount of capital accumulated, $7 trillion, $70 trillion. | ||
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You don't mean financial capital, you mean plant equipment. | |
| Assembly lines, computers. | ||
| You're talking about hard, what we call traditional production capital. | ||
| $70 trillion. | ||
| We have $70 trillion. | ||
| Well, that's the best in the world, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| China has $100 trillion. | ||
| Smaller economy, baby country. | ||
| But $100 trillion. | ||
| Half of that has come from the American people. | ||
| It's from U.S. institutions. | ||
| And that's what Trump is going to get right here. | ||
| And that's the tariff argument, right? | ||
| As soon as we see that equity restored, right, where capital stays in this country, in the hands of our workers, that makes the wage rate go up. | ||
| And then you clear the border invasion. | ||
| That makes the wage rate go up. | ||
| Then Americans are prosperous again. | ||
| They can buy a house. | ||
| We can't allow you to go in the administration. | ||
| Boardroom has to keep you. | ||
| I'll do both. | ||
| I'll do both. | ||
| Real quickly, social media. | ||
| I'm glad to have you back in one piece. | ||
| We're worried about you. | ||
| I'm going to get on social media again. | ||
| I'm on Brad Economics on Getter, and I'm going to get on X. I'm going to get trendy. | ||
| I think you have to. | ||
| And I've got a book. | ||
| I'm working on it. | ||
| Populist Economics. | ||
| We're going to do a simple book. | ||
| It's going to be a massive, massive hit. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break here in the world's financial capital. | ||
| I think I've got Caroline Wren. | ||
| Caroline Wren is, I think, if we can get her up, is particularly perturbed about some of the donor activity, particularly people like Mark Zuckerberg, who spent $450 million stealing the 2020 election from President Trump, showing up at Mar-a-Lago as a supplicant with a million-dollar check. | ||
| No, bro. | ||
| You need to bring a lot more in that if you want back in good grace. | ||
| a short commercial break back in the warm in a moment. | ||
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I got American partner. | |
| I got American babe. | ||
| In America's heart. | ||
| Go on, raise the flag. | ||
| Cause I got stars in my eyes. | ||
| I'm in love with her They got everything down here. | ||
| Backpacks and hats and everything. | ||
| Everything you could need. | ||
| Water bottles. | ||
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Even have the jugs with the camouflage around them. | |
| There's about 20 of these shops all throughout Sonahita and all of these communities As you go down in the heavy cartel areas, selling carpet shoes, selling the camouflage, selling everything you need to get across the border, and all of these communities, this is becoming bigger and bigger business because of Joe Biden and the Democrats. | ||
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Better to know this is what is used inside crossing to not be identified. | |
| They're being sold by the bunch. | ||
| Like this. | ||
| So easy to just go in there and with all this, you know, being sold, the whole package, it is part of it. | ||
| Carpet shoes, manufactured, sold all over the place. | ||
| You put these over your feet so you don't see them through the desert. | ||
| These, all of these shops dedicated, and actually the shop we just came out of was 100% dedicated, not to hunters. | ||
| But to illegals crossing into America. | ||
| This industry increasing because of traitorous Democrats. | ||
| Joe Biden and the Democrats. | ||
| You guys did this. | ||
| And the rhinos. | ||
| If we can't, with the House, the Senate, and the presidency, change this, we don't deserve to be in office. | ||
| Speaker Johnson, the Senate, President Trump's going to do it, but we need the House and the Senate to do their job. | ||
| And as you drive through town, there's just shops all over the place now. | ||
| And some of them have other things, Christmas decorations and regular clothes. | ||
| But every shop in this little town and towns like this, Sasabee, same thing. | ||
| Multiple shops down there, same thing. | ||
| They cater to illegal immigration. | ||
| There's an entire industry now around this. | ||
| Got a couple pairs of carpet shoes, got a new hat. | ||
| Gonna be bringing these to AmpFest this week. | ||
| In Phoenix, the invasion continues, all of it exacerbated by Joe Biden and the Democrats. | ||
| Open borders policies that have taken Customs Border Protection and Border Patrol off the line to process fake asylum seekers, to process the CBP-1 applicants. | ||
| And all that's done is increase the cartel activities of runners and gotaways out in these areas. | ||
| So when they tell us they know the number of people that have come into our country illegally, they have no idea. | ||
| and they have to be held accountable. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Right there, we got Ben Burquam and Oscar Blue Ramirez. | ||
| One of the most important things that has happened in the three, kind of the three-legged stool of what's happening now, the war in the Middle East and the war in Ukraine, of course, on the southern border, the beginning of deportations. | ||
| But here's the problem. | ||
| And this is President Trump actually said something about it today. | ||
| The Biden administration is not doing a solid job of transitioning over to President Trump. | ||
| They're still trying to push to the limits their madness. | ||
| We have Ben Berquam and Oscar Blue Ramirez. | ||
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| Ben Burquam, tell me what we just saw right there and why is that important and what's happening with President Trump in the transition when he takes over on the 20th of January, sir? | ||
| Steve, that was one of the multiple communities along our southern border that cater to illegal alien runners. | ||
| These are the ones that don't want to get caught. | ||
| These are the guys you see in full camel. | ||
| You saw some of that video from Tim Foley of Arizona Border Recon, just north of that area and Sasabee. | ||
| These are the guys, the really bad hombres, as President Trump says. | ||
| The reason that's so important, by the way, I have a pair. | ||
| I'm gonna bring these to... | ||
| I'm still trying to get you to wear one of these, Steve. | ||
| I'll bring it to AmpFest for you to try on. | ||
| The reason that's so important is all of that is it's connected to CBP1, where we're at right now, Tijuana, to the eight ports of entry that we went across over the last 10 days and all of the illegal immigration that's been allowed under the fake asylum idea that the Democrats have pushed. | ||
| Those are all distractions. | ||
| That the cartel then uses to push the really bad guys through these areas. | ||
| So every single thing that you see is connected. | ||
| Whether it's the CBP-1 that you see behind us. | ||
| We got a group lining up. | ||
| I'm gonna pan the camera over there in just a minute. | ||
| But it's all connected. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| Oscar, talk to me about your experience right there. | ||
| You two guys have risked your lives. | ||
| You've gone all up and down the border right now. | ||
| Give us a sit-rep. | ||
| What is your situation report that if you were in front of President Trump, give me two or three minutes on where we really stand on this, because he's quite upset by what he's seeing and observing on War Room and other of the information providers like Gateway Pundit, Citizens Free Press, etc.? | ||
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You know, like I have said, Steve, in the past, the Global Compact on Migration needs to get out of it immediately, you know, punish these NGOs by cutting the federal grants. | |
| This has been all incentivization. | ||
| This is the other challenge that is going to be extremely difficult for President Trump. | ||
| The cartels under the Biden administration have grown twice in terms of territory, economy, artillery. | ||
| And now you're seeing these cartel shops that they're pandering and catering to illegal migration of these people that they are not identified. | ||
| Really bad people coming into Arizona. | ||
| We have seen people with bad records, you know, convictions, pedophiles, child molesters, terrorists. | ||
| All these bad people are being smuggled through these mountains due to this camouflage. | ||
| The bad thing about it, Steve, is that the cartel has grown on the other side of the border, on the Mexican side. | ||
| This is one of the reasons why Donald Trump needs to label the cartels as terrorists immediately as day one. | ||
| They need to do that. | ||
| I know politically it is extremely difficult, but they need to push Mexico with this threat of a tariff to do something about it because the market has grown so much. | ||
| Not only in Mexico, we have shown this also in Icoquit, Colombia, where they're profiting of an illegal migration. | ||
| It's a big humanitarian business. | ||
| This is why the Democrats and all these NGOs and the United Nations do not want to stop this, because this has become a multi-billion business, and the only one that can end this human misery, it is Donald Trump. | ||
| Okay, I'm having a technical problem. | ||
| Let's go ahead and try to reboot these guys, if we can, because I can't hear them. | ||
| What you're seeing now is Oscar Blue Ramirez and Ben Burquam are down at the border having a slight technical problem hearing them. | ||
| And by the way, if we can't get them back up, that's fine. | ||
| I can take it from here. | ||
| I think I get the drift of it. | ||
| So here's where we stand. | ||
| We have three major kind of things or processes going on as President Trump drives the transition to the 47th presidency, you know, his. | ||
| You have these kind of the Third World War, this war in the Eurasian landmass. | ||
| You have this invasion of the country. | ||
| And remember, everything President Trump's doing is like, how do we start the mass deportations? | ||
| We still have to secure the border. | ||
| But what you have in the Biden regime, and this is how awful they are as people. | ||
| They are exacerbating this invasion at the tail end to try to get as many people as by as possible. | ||
| You see this all the time. | ||
| You see what's happening. | ||
| And now Oscar Blue and Ben have gone up and down the border and kind of reported from everywhere, from Interna to Mexico to where they are today. | ||
| Mitch McConnell and Mitt Romney and these guys over the Senate, they're sitting there over the weekend, and they give a critique of the America First movement. | ||
| They give a critique of MAGA. And here's what their critique is. | ||
| Mitch McConnell sits there and goes, this MAGA movement, this America First movement is very dangerous. | ||
| In fact, it harkens back to what he calls the sympathizers with the Nazis in World War II, the lead up to it, the America First guys, although they weren't. | ||
| He says this is very dangerous, going to leave America in a very dangerous position. | ||
| And yet Mitch McConnell and these guys in the Senate Have no interest in closing the border to wit. | ||
| I've had meetings over the weekend about, remember, you had the two reconciliation, either one reconciliation or two. | ||
| And I was told, they said, hey, Steve, you're wanting to bifurcate them as Holman does and Stephen Miller does, is actually in one regard very, very smart. | ||
| In fact, that would be the way you would do it. | ||
| We would pass a reconciliation day one on the border. | ||
| All the aspects of the border would be changed. | ||
| It would all go. | ||
| And you would have a border bill. | ||
| You'd have money. | ||
| You'd have to build the wall. | ||
| You'd have the beginning of the repatriation or the mass deportations, not just the criminals, but other people. | ||
| Trump would do 50 or 60 executive orders. | ||
| Miller and Holman would have not simply resources. | ||
| They would also have the backing of Congress and President Trump's. | ||
| And then later, when he did the tax bill, the tax bill and the economics would probably take to March or April around tax day. | ||
| Then you bring a second reconciliation. | ||
| Where they're saying, oh, no, no, no. | ||
| Some of you are saying, no, no, no, you can't do that. | ||
| You can't do two reconciliations, which is a lie, right? | ||
| But they're saying you can't do two reconciliations. | ||
| You have to put them both together. | ||
| Well, I said, well, if you put them both together, the tax is not going to be done until March or April. | ||
| They go, yeah, yeah, but you have to wait to do the border on that. | ||
| And I said, no, the border bill has to be done now. | ||
| You have to get the resources now. | ||
| They said, well, we'll get money from other places. | ||
| I said, no, not at the levels you need and kind of very focused, the American people on the border, President Trump's primary promise. | ||
| We seal the border. | ||
| We put the wall. | ||
| You start doing more security, but also you begin the process. | ||
| Of mass deportations. | ||
| And a lot of this is going to be in conjunction with, I don't know, I've recommended a summit. | ||
| I've said we should have a summit of the frontline nations in Mexico and some from Latin America. | ||
| It kind of worked this all down. | ||
| Because it has to be done and it will be done in a humane manner. | ||
| Maybe not the criminals, but certainly the average person come across it and they said, No, you can't do that because the Senate's going to hold up the deportations if you do that. | ||
| And I go, what are you talking about? | ||
| They're all about the taxes. | ||
| They said yes. | ||
| People over the weekend in these rooms said, point blank, the Senate has no interest in closing the border. | ||
| This is the Republicans, not Democrats. | ||
| The Republican Senate, by and large, is just all lip service. | ||
| They have absolutely no interest whatsoever in closing the border. | ||
| And so if you go back, I said, what do you mean? | ||
| They said they don't really want to allocate money. | ||
| They fought Trump the entire time. | ||
| He says the reason you don't have a wall. | ||
| In the first two years, you had the House and you had the Senate. | ||
| You had everything. | ||
| And you didn't get really any money allocated to the wall because they don't want it. | ||
| The donors don't want it. | ||
| They don't want a wall. | ||
| They're open borders people. | ||
| They're globalists. | ||
| On top of that, think about it for a second. | ||
| Over the weekend, Mitch McConnell trashed you. | ||
| Mitch McConnell reinforced the fact that you're deplorables, that you're garbage, but even worse, that being part of the America First movement and supporting these policies, that you're actually kind of a traitor. | ||
| That you really, oh, you would be with the Nazis before the Second World War. | ||
| You were with the fascists in the Second World War because you really are fascists. | ||
| Think about when Mitch McConnell says that he says we're dangerous in our isolationism. | ||
| Well, Mitch, to be honest, brutally frank about it, you know, I served my country on a destroyer in the Western Pacific and in the North Arabian Sea in the Persian Gulf. | ||
| My daughter Maureen deployed to Iraq. | ||
| We served our country. | ||
| Mitch, after you had an incident in the shower in the first, I don't know, 60 days of your military service in the Army, all of a sudden your eyes didn't work and they tossed you out. | ||
| I notice all you people that never did anything are the ones that nonstop are saying, oh, these America First, the veterans, all these people are terrible. | ||
| And actually, quite frankly, you're saying you're implying that we're traitors when you don't say anything about the southern border. | ||
| Here's the bottom line. | ||
| The sovereignty, the territorial integrity, the self-determination of the American people on that southern border. | ||
| Mitch McConnell has sent $250 billion to Ukraine to protect the Russian-speaking eastern border, which is, write this down in any peace settlement, is going to stay with the Russians, just like Crimea. | ||
| A million Ukrainians are dead or wounded. | ||
| The country's destroyed for something that was exactly what happened, was exactly where things stood at the beginning three years ago. | ||
| So you have 700,000 dead and wounded in Russia. | ||
| You have a million dead and wounded in the Ukraine. | ||
| A million seven. | ||
| And, you know, I don't know, a half a trillion dollars, a trillion dollars spent over there in bloodshed in a country that half of is destroyed. | ||
| And Mitch McConnell supports that. | ||
| That's the reason he got turfed out as leader. | ||
| But he will not do anything. | ||
| They will not support anything. | ||
| In fact, they look the other way when Biden's doing this on the southern border. | ||
| That's the type of people you're dealing with. | ||
| People that not only don't love this country, they actually hate this country, more importantly, they hate the citizens of this country and they hate it with a burning passion. | ||
| We get to Mike Lindell here in a second. | ||
| We're gonna be doing a lot of this and breaking this down. | ||
| And look, President Trump's our guy, We support President Trump. | ||
| There are going to be occasions when we just don't agree with some of the policies. | ||
| And we're not going to sit here and tell you that we do when we don't. | ||
| We're going to have to break it down. | ||
| But you can kind of guess where they're going to be, on taxes, on taking money from foreign nations, on having this expansive, continual American empire overseas. | ||
| If we just stick with America First policies, if we stick with Make America Great Again policies, Two-thirds of the people, 75% of the people are with President Trump. | ||
| We will have a 1932 realignment, but we got to stick to those policies and we got to force it through. | ||
| And like I said, this next year is going to be horrific. | ||
| Think how difficult it's going to be done, even on the transition. | ||
| All the games that are being played right now, dangerous games on the Third World War, all the dangerous games we played on the southern border, and particularly the dangerous games are being played with the economy, with the balance sheet of the United States, with the debt markets. | ||
| And once again, let me reiterate. | ||
| We do not need another rate cut. | ||
| What Powell is doing with the Fed, we don't need another rate cut. | ||
| That's just going to add to more inflation. | ||
| They're trying to make sure that President Trump can't get inflation down, and Janet Yellen's playing around with the balance sheet of the United States playing her game. | ||
| So it all has to stop. | ||
| She's got to put her pencil down. | ||
| She's had her reign of terror over Treasury. | ||
| And Jay Powell's just got to back off from any more rate cuts. | ||
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| Mike Lindell joins us. | ||
| Mike, honored to have you on here. | ||
| We couldn't get you in the morning show because we had to cut to President Trump's press conference, of which he dropped about 50 bombs. | ||
| So Natalie covered those in the previous hour. | ||
| Sell me a pillow, brother. | ||
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| We'll leave you with that. | ||
| See you tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. | ||
| Eastern Standard, when you'll be back in the War Room. | ||
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| Altitude of the march into the big kettle drum Voices calling, voices crying Some are born and some are dying It's Alpha and Omega's kingdom come And the whirlwind is in the thorn tree The virgins are trimming their wicks. | ||
| The whirlwind is in the palm trees. |
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