Dec. 5, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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The only good thing about being in the swamp is you get to sit in the dojo that Steve Bannon built. | |
| And that's where I'm operating right now in my Trump-a-mania t-shirt, because that's what it's all about. | ||
| That is Kash Patel. | ||
| That's the man Donald Trump nominated to run the FBI. He's never worked for the FBI, but he does host Steve Bannon's War Room podcast a lot, where he loves to share conspiracy theories. | ||
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The Chinese, the CCP, helped fund portions of the Biden campaign. | |
| Get the sergeant-at-arms to go out and arrest Marilyn Garland. | ||
| They want everything and every way to rig this system, just like the censorship regime. | ||
| We're going back to Wuhan, we're going back to COVID origins, and we're going back to another form of a megavirus that can take out China's enemies. | ||
| They're in on it with the mainstream media, the Biden-Harris-Waltz campaign, and of course the FBI. Like so many guys in Trump world, Patel just can't stop talking, which, you know, game recognized game. | ||
| Zach Beauchamp is a senior correspondent at Vox where he covers democracy in the far right. | ||
| His latest piece is titled, I listened to hours of Trump's FBI pick on Steve Bannon's podcast, Oh Boy. | ||
| Express concern about the potential nomination of Kash Patel to lead the FBI. What are your concerns? | ||
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Yeah, it's a little bit different concern with Cash Patel, and that is his threats, his outright threats, repeated threats to weaponize the FBI, to take it from an organization whose essential function is to protect America and to enforce our laws, right? | |
| To enforce our laws domestically, prevent crime, to train and support local law enforcement. | ||
| That's actually a role that not a lot of Americans know the FBI does, that it provides an essential function to train and support and resource and provide intelligence to Local law enforcement agencies, our town sheriffs and police departments around the country. | ||
| To take it from that and to turn it into an entity whose primary focus would be enacting retribution on Donald Trump's perceived enemies, that is what he has said he will do, would make us all less safe. | ||
| So he, again, should not be in this role. | ||
| Liberation, Willie, and why this is so delicate, because the White House counsel and a handful of senior White House aides, including Jeff Zients, the chief of staff, are having this debate right now in the West Wing, which is, do we leave these folks out in the cold and potentially expose them to Kash Patel's FBI and Donald Trump's White House? | ||
| For any number of charges or some kind of show trial to get a measure of revenge and at the very least make them pay six figures in legal bills to avoid such a case? | ||
| Or do we offer preemptively pardons to people who there's no proof they've done anything wrong whatsoever and really may not want a pardon in the first place? | ||
| That's a real tough call because if you don't do it, And Patel and company come after some of these people, and you had the chance to give them inoculation legally, that's a hell of a thing to regret. | ||
| At the same time, do you want to pardon somebody like Liz Cheney or Anthony Fauci and suggest any kind of impropriety that could only add fuel to the Trump aggressors in the first place? | ||
| It's a real tough nut. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| It's Thursday, 5 December in the year of our Lord, 2024. | ||
| I want to thank everybody for joining us this morning. | ||
| We're here live in... | ||
| We're right near the transition office at the studios of Real America's Voice. | ||
| Jack Posobiec will join me in a second. | ||
| The vast studio network here of Real America's Voice. | ||
| There's a lot going on. | ||
| One thing in the... | ||
| In Warfare 101, because we're in political warfare and you take a lot of lessons from actual combat. | ||
| I guess Clausewitz was famous for saying that war is just politics by other means. | ||
| Well, politics is just warfare by other means, right? | ||
| You have to keep momentum. | ||
| This is why I keep this phrase. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| This phrase, seize the institutions. | ||
| Keep your momentum. | ||
| This audience, and I really want to thank folks as I go around and talk at places like Club 47 or last night at Russ Vogt's organization, Center for Renewing America. | ||
| So many people come up and say, hey, look, I've been a member of the Posse since the pandemic or from the beginning of impeachment or picked it up in 2020 or after I lost all hope in 2021 or over the last couple of years or some just here recently in the run up to 2024. | ||
| Whatever it is, you know that we are a platform for this populist nationalist movement. | ||
| And in that, the key is the people, the war room posse, the hoplites, the cadres that we're building by providing you information and access to so many of the folks that kind of make the Trump movement go. | ||
| We're here to support President Trump because President Trump is the leader of our movement and President Trump is one of the seminal figures in American history. | ||
| I rank him with General Washington and Abraham Lincoln. | ||
| This is the age of Trump. | ||
| It is an inflection point, a fourth turning, and an inflection point in American history, and he's one of the greatest leaders with all his imperfections. | ||
| He's one of the greatest leaders this country's ever had. | ||
| You know, because they don't have a time either to read or study history, but they came after General Washington viciously when he was the commander in chief or he was the leader of the Continental Army. | ||
| They came after him viciously when he was president on many different topics. | ||
| They came after Lincoln horrifically. | ||
| Lincoln ended up obviously being assassinated by John Wilkes Booth. | ||
| And members of the Confederate Secret Service, Confederate Intelligence, after the secession of the actual warfare part by the Army in Northern Virginia. | ||
| We have to keep the momentum. | ||
| And I don't think that enough people are focused on President Trump, like the Russ vote thing last night, is doing what President Trump needs to do. | ||
| He's sending out messages. | ||
| He's giving talks. | ||
| He's pointing in the direction. | ||
| He's getting ready. | ||
| I think on Friday he goes up. | ||
| He's getting ready to do Meet the Press with Kristen Walker. | ||
| Then he's going to do... | ||
| Which is pretty extraordinary. | ||
| He's then going to do, I think the Fox, they got a Patriots Award thing. | ||
| He's going to do that. | ||
| He's like on a red eye to France. | ||
| He's going to show that he's kind of the leader of the Judeo-Christian West by being there at the reopening of Notre Dame Cathedral, a major... | ||
| Mark, whether you're a Catholic, whether you're a Christian or not, it's a cultural thing even more than a religious thing for folks like Jack Posobiec and I that are Catholic, that are Roman Catholic. | ||
| President Trump's taking that leadership role is incumbent upon the team around him and people like ourselves who are the people on the outside that try to drive the message to get in sync, to get in unison, and to drive this message forward. | ||
| I keep saying The man got shot in the head and only by the intervention of divine providence did he live or was not incapacitated for the rest of his life on earth. | ||
| And then four months later won a sweeping landslide victory that we've kind of let be petered out by letting Mark Elias and Democrats steal additional House seats but also steal other votes. | ||
| So they're questioning whether he has a mandate or not. | ||
| He has a mandate. | ||
| The American people have given him a mandate. | ||
| Now you see they're in panic mode, but we're not driving it forward. | ||
| It is time now to seize the institutions. | ||
| And if people associated with President Trump don't think that the established order, both the Republicans and the Democrats, the deep state, the administrative state, the oligarchs on Wall Street, if you don't think they smell blood in the water, then your smelling function ain't working. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| They see that their belief... | ||
| This audience has to understand that they've blunted our force already. | ||
| Their ability to grab control of the institutions in this interregnum before January 20th, which was all important, has been blunted. | ||
| Now, I don't think it has totally, but we need, as General Sherman said, a simple plan aggressively executed. | ||
| I'm not feeling the aggressive execution. | ||
| I'm going to bring in Jack Posobiec. | ||
| Jack, I want to go first. | ||
| Let's talk about the open. | ||
| Here we've got Kash Patel. | ||
| Look, they're pulling on Alinsky 101. This is not complicated what they're doing. | ||
| And they're telegraphing their punches. | ||
| First it's Gates. | ||
| Next it's Hegseth. | ||
| Next it's Cash. | ||
| Then it's Tulsi. | ||
| Then it's Bobby Kennedy. | ||
| And you get rid of those. | ||
| You'll have some interesting things and we're going to fight some good fights, but you have major disruptors because today they've even got a story. | ||
| They're trying to blunt Vivek and Elon, right? | ||
| Saying, oh, they don't know anything about the government. | ||
| This is supposedly some Trump insider or some Trump associate anonymously coming out. | ||
| So they're trying to take any... | ||
| Action that drives the deconstruction of the administrative state, right? | ||
| The implementation of President Trump's policies and the takedown of the deep state. | ||
| They're feared now. | ||
| They're coming after cash in a big way. | ||
| Last night, Vox took a whole, I guess, week to review every tape. | ||
| Every piece of video that has ever been done in a war room with Kash Patel, including the times that he hosted for me while I was in a federal prison because of the political warfare of the Biden regime. | ||
| And Jack, now Jonathan Martin has written an incredible piece, well-reported in Politico. | ||
| Jonathan's one of the top guys over there. | ||
| He used to be at the New York Times. | ||
| Great piece, well-reported, about what's going on in the Biden regime. | ||
| They're panicked about what they see on War Room every day. | ||
| And what are they doing, Jack? | ||
| They're saying, hey, you gave Hunter a pardon. | ||
| I need a preemptive pardon. | ||
| We've got to start working on that. | ||
| Unprecedented in American history. | ||
| Jack, give us your sense of—we're getting Alinsky'd. | ||
| Give us your sense on where we stand, sir. | ||
| Well, Steve, it's very clear, and you can see the implications and the fear from Politico, and you can see it with these leaks from the Biden administration. | ||
| And by the way, keep in mind that Joe Biden himself is not actually privy to these discussions. | ||
| He is in Angola. | ||
| He's been sent to Africa. | ||
| He's apologizing for slavery and doing this world tour. | ||
| He was just down in the This is an administration that has completely gone rogue. | ||
| And since they have completely gone rogue, They're playing for keeps and they've dropped the facade. | ||
| They've dropped the facade and the veneer of we are your moral betters, that we are on the right side of history. | ||
| They never were. | ||
| MAGA is on the right side of history. | ||
| War Room is on the right side of history. | ||
| And so what they're doing is they're running up there and they've got their media surrogates out saying, Well, you know, they didn't do anything wrong per se, but we want to do a blanket pardon anyway. | ||
| And look, yeah, they're talking about Liz Cheney. | ||
| They're talking about Adam Schiff. | ||
| They're talking about Dr. Fauci, of course. | ||
| And they're saying they didn't do anything wrong, but we're just worried about Kash Patel. | ||
| We're worried about Bobby Kennedy, who had dinner with the president last night at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| And they're saying these are false allegations and they can come after you and they can investigate. | ||
| I said, oh, wait a minute, really? | ||
| So you mean like you guys did to President Trump and Peter Navarro and Stephen K. Bannon and the 1500 J6ers and so many other people who are languishing? | ||
| So you're admitting. | ||
| You're actually admitting Everything that you did, going after people on trumped up charges, versus someone like Cash, who's actually gone in, he's got chapter and verse, he's got something called the receipts on the actual wrongdoing of the people who have committed these absolute atrocities. | ||
| When it comes to rule of law and when it comes to the system of justice. | ||
| So please, please do your blanket pardons, and let's just test the constitutionality of those things, because I don't think that's ever been checked before by any Supreme Court, and I would love to have that fight. | ||
| Jack, hang over a second. | ||
| Jack Posobiec with us at the Real America Voice studios today. | ||
| Of course, Jack will be doing his show from there, Charlie Kirk, also in West Palm Beach, kind of a gathering of A couple of three people down here. | ||
| Great weather and great things going on in the Trump transition as we get ready to head to Washington, D.C. Birchgold.com. | ||
| Philip Patrick is going to join me in the second hour. | ||
| We're going to talk capital markets, the economy, and the task before Scott Besson and... | ||
| Now Peter Navarro and others are part of the economics team of President Trump. | ||
| Okay, Monica Crowley is also, Dr. Crowley is going to join us also later in the show. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Back with Post on a moment. | ||
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The television only lets you indoctrinate the mind. | |
| We've heard about the potential nomination of Kash Patel to lead the FBI. | ||
| What are your concerns? | ||
| Yeah, it's a little bit different concern with Cash Patel, and that is his threats, his outright threats, repeated threats to weaponize the FBI, to take it from an organization whose essential function is to protect America and to enforce our laws, right? | ||
| To enforce our laws domestically, prevent crime, to train and support local law enforcement. | ||
| That's actually a role that not a lot of Americans know the FBI does, that it provides an essential function to train and support and resource and provide intelligence to That's exactly it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay, this is, and that's the congressman from, one of the progressive congressmen out from Colorado. | ||
| Jack, first off, the FBI is to protect Americans. | ||
| The FBI has turned into the American Gestapo. | ||
| The FBI needs to be taken apart brick by brick. | ||
| I actually argue that the, you know, the intelligence part of it, the counterterrorism part, that should be shifted into other agencies, that the law enforcement somehow may be more tied to the U.S. If you need a federal investigative force, it's got to be rethought through how you do it. | ||
| And I'm for shutting down the headquarters. | ||
| That brutalist art or brutalist architecture that's so horrific should be literally taken apart, and we ought to salt the earth around as much evil... | ||
| Has come out of the FBI headquarters. | ||
| These people are evil people. | ||
| Now, Cash, we're not saying this, and there's no target list of retribution. | ||
| President Trump's retribution, he said over and over again, is the new golden age of the American renaissance that is make America great again. | ||
| His success will be the best revenge. | ||
| However, we are going to hold people accountable for what they did and tried to destroy this republic, and don't think it's not going to happen. | ||
| And you can whine all you want. | ||
| You can cry all you want. | ||
| You can throw your toys out of the pram. | ||
| So, you know, lawyer up. | ||
| Preserve your documents, one. | ||
| Number two, lawyer up. | ||
| Number three, get your passport ready and do your punch list of countries that don't have extradition trees with the United States. | ||
| If you're that worried, then take off. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Take off. | ||
| If you want to do that, take off. | ||
| None of us did. | ||
| We stood in the breach, and guess what? | ||
| We came back and we won. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And now you're going to have accountability. | ||
| This has nothing to do with retribution, nothing to do with revenge. | ||
| That stuff has no interest to me. | ||
| What has interest to me is to never allow this republic to be taken over by these globalist elites that were turning this into essentially East Germany, which the FBI was. | ||
| There's people, Jack, I know you're a big believer in praying the rosary on a daily basis. | ||
| There are people in prisons that, the jackboots of the FBI, kick doors down, terrorize the kids, drag the fathers out there in federal prison today for praying the rosary outside of abortion centers. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Praying the rosary outside of abortion centers. | ||
| So this is where we are, and the FBI is going to be taken apart. | ||
| It just has to be. | ||
| It's the American Gestapo. | ||
| I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings. | ||
| First thing I would do is cancel all these shows, pull the rights back, and all these shows that make the FBI look like the good guys. | ||
| The FBI are not the good guys. | ||
| They've done a lot of evil over the last couple of years, the last four years, and actually before that. | ||
| And that is going to be discontinued Jack Posobiec. | ||
| Steve, I completely agree with you. | ||
| I'm right there. | ||
| They talk about book banning. | ||
| I say, look at all these books that are backed by the FBI. They're backed by the national security state. | ||
| You see them in every airport. | ||
| And the point of those stories is to create this Hollywood fiction that these are the agencies that are helping us and that these are the agencies that are helping. | ||
| Protecting us and Jack Ryan and all these different things. | ||
| Jack Ryan, by the way, one episode of which was filmed right outside the war room a couple seasons ago. | ||
| We tried to get Krasinski to come on and I remember producer Cameron ran out there. | ||
| He said he didn't want to come on to war room. | ||
| But when it comes down to the FBI, the actuality of the truth there is you've got people and so many whistleblowers have come out from time and time again that you've got people there That are throwing people away for political purposes. | ||
| They are putting people behind bars. | ||
| Merrick Garland, who by the way, Merrick Garland, and let's talk about that. | ||
| So Merrick Garland has unleashed this cauldron that was built during the Obama years That Comey presided over, that Ray came out of. | ||
| So Merrick Garland unleashed them on the suspecting populace. | ||
| Hold it, hold it, hold it. | ||
| Don't miss the name. | ||
| Eric Holder. | ||
| Eric Holder. | ||
| The most partisan attorney general in living memory. | ||
| Eric Holder. | ||
| This is part of his apparatus, correct? | ||
| Eric Holder and I had a little fun in Chicago earlier this year down at the DNC when I got to ask him, why was it, Eric Holder, that you and Covington Burling didn't go and vet Tim Walz? | ||
| And he didn't want to answer my question. | ||
| He got a little upset with Poso asking him a basic question, but hey, that's what we do around here. | ||
| And I didn't exactly want to let him get away without answering my simple question. | ||
| So Eric Holder became very, very upset about that. | ||
| And so these individuals, what they've done, and by the way, all of those AGs, wait for it, Steve, they were confirmed by Republican senators. | ||
| They were confirmed. | ||
| They were given the rubber stamp. | ||
| They said a president should get his picks. | ||
| And they would sit there, and the very same ones that have problems with Kash Patel, that have problems with Pete Hegseth, that have problems with Tulsi Gabbard, problems with Bobby Kennedy, those very same ones, You go back and look at their votes. | ||
| They had no problem. | ||
| Joni Ertz. | ||
| Joni Ertz, let's go look at your votes on Merrick Garland. | ||
| Let's go look at your votes on everyone that came up in the Biden administration. | ||
| Alejandro Mayorkas. | ||
| Did you vote for him, Joni? | ||
| Are you sure you were okay with that? | ||
| You rubber-stamped the guy that allowed the invasion into our country? | ||
| No. | ||
| Look, we know what's going on, Steve, and it has been a rat's nest for a very long time. | ||
| The disgusting building has been filled with people who do not have the people's interests at heart. | ||
| Go look at the text messages. | ||
| You want to understand the basic mentality of someone who works at the FBI and how they view you. | ||
| Go look at the text messages. | ||
| Lisa Page and Peter Strzok. | ||
| And don't skip all the lover boy talk and all that. | ||
| No. | ||
| Go look at the text messages where they talk about you Trump voters. | ||
| And what do they say? | ||
| They said, I can smell the Walmart on them. | ||
| I can smell the Walmart on them. | ||
| That's how they view you. | ||
| They view you as a sort of invasive species. | ||
| They view you as people who should be ruled. | ||
| They view you as rubes and peasants and nothing beneath their feet. | ||
| And they themselves are these high progressive city elites, these urban elites. | ||
| They sit down and they view that these little people, you are the ones who are just causing trouble for us. | ||
| And if you step out of line one step or we decide... | ||
| That you're someone who should be going after, then we are going to throw you away. | ||
| We're going to put you behind bars like we put Stephen K. Bannon behind bars, like we put so many other patriots since Jan 6 behind bars. | ||
| And that's what it's about, boys and girls. | ||
| It's not about quote unquote insurrection. | ||
| It's about locking up the good, honest, hardworking American people of this country. | ||
| That's why they went. | ||
| The first thing when they did the J6 investigations, the first thing they did, they would go into your phone and they would download all your contacts. | ||
| They would download every single contact that was in there because they were building their lists. | ||
| You want to talk about lists? | ||
| They're talking about lists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| OK, Jack, I'm going to lose you here in a moment. | ||
| By the way, Clay Travis is going to join us. | ||
| Monica Crowley is going to join us. | ||
| Clay's got a lot to say about the J6 prisoners. | ||
| Jack, before I leave you, and we're going to come back to this. | ||
| We're going to come back to cash. | ||
| We're going to come back to Pete Hexas. | ||
| So we've got a lot going on today. | ||
| Just bear with us. | ||
| But I've got to deal with Ukraine. | ||
| If we can put up my Getter post last night, Paths of Glory. | ||
| This is outrageous. | ||
| What the Biden administration and regime should put their pencils down right now. | ||
| What they're doing in Ukraine and dragging us into the shooting part of the Third World War is bad enough. | ||
| But they're sacrificing an entire generation of Ukrainian young men, I mean, 18 years old. | ||
| The pressure they're putting on Zelensky right now to get the youth of Ukraine to the battlefield in front of the Russians is, I call it the slaughter of the innocents. | ||
| You know, as you've been telling me, the dog that doesn't bark is what, Jack Posobiec? | ||
| Well, so the question I have is, they said lower in the conscription range, and Lindsey Graham was saying we need to do this under 20, and then Blinken's out there saying we need to do it down to 18. But the dog that's not barking is, where are the volunteers? | ||
| Why aren't they volunteering if this is this honored fight, if this is this huge thing? | ||
| Because you can go on Instagram, and you can go look up, and they're partying in Kiev, they're partying in Lviv, and you've got so many of them that have run out to the capitals of Europe, military-aged males. | ||
| They say, wait a minute, how come you're not signing up to fight then? | ||
| How come they need to have a draft? | ||
| How come they need conscription if this really is the existential fight? | ||
| Or is it because they have... | ||
| Klitschko's son! | ||
| Klitschko's son is running around there, going all over, partying around Europe. | ||
| Dmitry Kaleva is coming back, and he's got some kind of sinecure with Harvard. | ||
| He's going to be a Harvard fellow now, and he's going back and forth. | ||
| How come none of you guys are fighting? | ||
| Klitschko, remember the boxer? | ||
| I'm fighting in Kiev. | ||
| I'm the mayor over here. | ||
| His son's not fighting. | ||
| None of them are fighting, Steve, because they know what happens when they go into the trenches, when they face the Oresnik hypersonic glide missiles, when they face the FPV drones and the rest of it. | ||
| And, Steve, I'll reveal this, that President Trump, when he was with us last night at Mar-a-Lago, he spoke about this issue with, I would say, great frankness in a way that I've never seen him speak before. | ||
| His face went white, and he said, I've been receiving briefings forever. | ||
| From Washington, and I've seen the real numbers. | ||
| And President Trump thought he didn't give us a number, but he said the real numbers on both sides of this thing are far higher than anyone realizes. | ||
| And so many people have gone to their graves, and we need to stop it right now. | ||
| So that's directly from President Trump. | ||
| He's basically saying that everyone's lying about the real number of dead that have come out of the Ukraine war, which you and I said would happen if the Bloodlands War opened up. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Mersheimer said the Primrose Path, 1,000% correct. | ||
| President Trump implied it was, I think, more than a million dead on the Ukrainian side. | ||
| Jack, social media, where do people follow? | ||
| You're back at 2 o'clock, right after Charlie Kirk in the war room. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, 2 p.m., Human Events Daily. | ||
| Where do people get you, sir? | ||
| Right here at Human Events at Jack Posobo. | ||
| We've got Mike Benz on for the full hour today on the program. | ||
| We're going to go around the horn of the globalist regime and the blob. | ||
| Brother, love you. | ||
| Keep hammering away. | ||
| Five-hour block every day. | ||
| We're going to have a new installment before Christmas. | ||
| There's a homework assignment. | ||
| Philip Patrick will join me later. | ||
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| Go get it today. | ||
| The End of the Dollar Empire. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Clay Travis will join us on the other side. | ||
| The flaw. | ||
| Move fast. | ||
| Break things. | ||
| Remember, perfection's the enemy of good. | ||
| Right now, we got a lot broken in Washington. | ||
| Good is a lot better than broken. | ||
| I want Trump to hit the ground running. | ||
| I want him to pardon all the January Sixers. | ||
| Heck, we're in New York City. | ||
| I would pardon Eric Adams. | ||
| Every January Sixer. | ||
| Even those guys, Jesse, because if you compare the punishment they got for violent crime with what they're doing to other people in Washington, D.C., even those people have been punished excessively under the law. | ||
| I would do a blanket pardon, every single one of them done. | ||
| And I'd also pardon Mayor of New York City, Eric Adams. | ||
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All right. | |
| I think Clay means he wants a pardon. | ||
| And I'll take one, too, President Trump, if you're watching. | ||
| No telling what they're coming after me for. | ||
| I don't think that's correct, Jesse. | ||
| I don't think Clay Travis is asking for a pardon for himself. | ||
| He's throwing down hard, though. | ||
| Clay Travis joins us by phone today because he's traveling. | ||
| He's going to talk to us a little bit about that before he punches. | ||
| But, Clay, that was quite powerful last night. | ||
| You just threw down hard, would not back off. | ||
| Tell me about it. | ||
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Well, thanks for having me on, first of all, and thanks for everything that you've done because you have paid sacrifice and penalties that almost no one else in the country has to stand up for the truth against this lawfare. | |
| And I have gotten so fired up over the past several years as we've watched Merrick Garland, Department of Justice, Engage in unprecedented levels of lawfare that's directly motivated by politics like we've never seen before in basically 250 years nearly of United States history. | ||
| I'm a lawyer. | ||
| I practiced for a few years before I moved into media. | ||
| And I'm maybe old school in the sense that I believe in principle and also in precedence. | ||
| And you cannot set the principle and you cannot establish the precedent that you are going to punish somebody based on their politics when you have the White House and not expect for the country to fall apart around you. | ||
| And so if you look at all the Jan 6 related cases, and I give credit to Julie Kelly, who we've been talking to for years now on the Clay and Buck show about all this, I donated to their legal defense fund. | ||
| The more I looked into it, I was blown away by the level of punishment that has been meted out against these individuals. | ||
| And in the wake of the Hunter Biden pardon, I don't think there's any doubt at all that on day one, I would encourage President Trump to issue a blanket pardon to all. | ||
| And Jesse pushed back, and I'm glad he did, because that is the pushback that you generally get when you advocate for a blanket pardon. | ||
| But the reality is, even the people who engaged in acts of violence Have been punished for those acts of violence far more than anyone else would have in Washington, D.C., where in general they have been lowering felonies to misdemeanors and letting people accused of violent crime off with slaps on the wrist time after time. | ||
| So even if you want to go to the most egregious of the charges and convictions of the January 6th, First of all, if they'd been BLM protesters, nothing would have happened to them in Washington, D.C. But also, even if it hadn't been related to a political protest for people who are carjacking, for people who are engaging in violent crime with weapons, they are being punished less severely than many of the people who were engaged in violent acts on January 6th. | ||
| They've paid their debt. | ||
| Unlike Hunter, they've actually gone to prison. | ||
| They've actually served time in prison. | ||
| And so, at a minimum, they have paid their debt, and I would blanket pardon every single individual. | ||
| I'll also add this, Steve. | ||
| I think there's a lot of people looking at the results of 2024 and saying, oh, by the way, there ain't no way Joe Biden got 81 million legal votes. | ||
| Kamala Harris, with a billion-plus dollars to spend, got 7 million less votes than Joe Biden did in 2020. I think it makes a lot of people who are honest and rational and reasonable raise their eyebrows and say, hey, maybe these guys and gals had a lot of substance behind what they were protesting as well. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| Particularly, look at those low propensity voters. | ||
| Did not vote in 22. Did not come out and vote in 24 because we won the House. | ||
| If you actually aggregate the vote up, we won the House by 6 million votes. | ||
| It's not counted up that way. | ||
| It's by district. | ||
| But if you aggregate it up, we won the House by 6 million votes in 22. Those magical voters in 20 never showed up in 22, didn't show up in 24. So the folks there had a grievance. | ||
| Clay, I want to ask you about, now they're talking about preemptive pardons on things you've covered a lot on your show, you and Buck, Fauci, Cheney, Shifty Shift. | ||
| What are your thoughts about that one? | ||
| The White House, this is Jonathan Martin, one of the best reporters out there. | ||
| Jonathan Martin's reporting that the White House, they're working late at night about really something, your lawyer, I don't know if the Constitution backs this up, but having blanket preemptive pardons for folks, sir. | ||
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Yeah, I think, well, first of all, I think it's a partial reaction to the backlash that they're getting on the Hunter pardon. | |
| I'm going to be honest with you. | ||
| You've advised the president in the Oval Office many times. | ||
| If the Biden team had asked me, which they're never going to do, but if they have, they said, hey, we're going to pardon Hunter Biden. | ||
| What do you think your reaction is going to be? | ||
| I said, well... | ||
| Everybody knew you were lying. | ||
| It was evident. | ||
| We knew that this was coming. | ||
| But I would actually say you should, and I mean this, pardon Donald Trump for everything at the same time. | ||
| Because that would at least give you some cover when you argue that the Department of Justice has lost its way with Hunter Biden as they tried to do and has become political in nature. | ||
| And actually it would throw Merrick Garland under the bus Which I think is right. | ||
| I think Merrick Garland is the most dangerous and worst attorney general of my lifetime with the precedents that he has set. | ||
| And so I would have argued at that point in time for more expansive pardons involving more people who have been charged with political-related offenses. | ||
| Now, on the Fauci thing, I think this is blowback for that. | ||
| I think that, and for Liz Cheney or for Adam Schiff, whoever it is that they're considering giving pardons to, you know, you pardon Hunter because he was guilty of felonies. | ||
| To me, my first thought is, well, why do you need to pardon somebody if they didn't do anything wrong at all? | ||
| This just would further reiterate to me the likely lies that are legion that Dr. Fauci told under oath in Congress, the fact that Adam Schiff lied over and over repeatedly about national intelligence-related issues in a way to frame Donald Trump. | ||
| And I think Liz Cheney clearly covered up a lot of evidence in the January 6th hearings that did not and still not have gotten much mainstream media attention that would have been to a large degree, I think, in some way helping to provide defense I think, in some way helping to provide defense to many of the January 6th defendants, particularly those who didn't engage in violent behavior at all. | ||
| There's lots of evidence of that. | ||
| Big, because we didn't have, it wasn't properly structured. | ||
| Didn't have a ranking member, didn't have a minority council. | ||
| We didn't get the evidence. | ||
| We didn't get to cross-examine witness issues, all that. | ||
| Clay, why I got you. | ||
| Cash Patel, I want to talk about Cash and Pete. | ||
| Cash Patel, they're rolling in hard. | ||
| They're trying to Alinsky us by culling, you know, they called Gates from the herd. | ||
| Now they're going to try to call Hegson from the herd. | ||
| Cash is next. | ||
| Tulsi's going to follow. | ||
| Bobby Kennedy's after that. | ||
| What's your advice to folks about what we've got to do here? | ||
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Barack Obama was right. | |
| Elections have consequences. | ||
| I don't remember anybody that was nominated by Joe Biden that Democrats shot down when they had control of the United States Senate to advise and consent. | ||
| We just had 330 million people get the opportunity to advise and consent. | ||
| Around 150 million of them advised and consented on who the United States president should be. | ||
| I would, if I were a United States Senator, uniformly vote 100% for everybody that Donald Trump put forward. | ||
| I think if you are a Republican, particularly if you're a Republican in a red state, maybe Susan Collins in Maine, she may be the only Republican to get elected there. | ||
| Maybe she has to behave differently. | ||
| If you're a Republican Senator in a red state that Donald Trump won, Overwhelmingly, as most Republican senators are, I think that you should be supporting every single nominee that Donald Trump puts forward. | ||
| And I think, Steve, you just nailed it. | ||
| What they're trying to do is grab one at a time and send a message with them and try to diminish Donald Trump's political legitimacy as he comes in by taking away some of the best fighters that he wants to put forward. | ||
| Can't allow it to happen. | ||
| Steal spine time. | ||
| Vote for them all. | ||
| You've got announced. | ||
| Talk to us about the show. | ||
| You're heading somewhere. | ||
| What are you going to be doing next week? | ||
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Yeah, they wanted many people that support the show and wanted us to come to Israel. | |
| So I'm in New York City right now. | ||
| I am flying to Israel tonight. | ||
| I am going to be doing the show from Israel. | ||
| I've never been before, but I'm going to be doing the show all next week live from Israel. | ||
| We're going to have the IDF taking me around to all the terror sites. | ||
| They're going to show me what is going on in Israel, what the people are living under as we We'll continue to deal with the ramifications of October 7th and what's been going on in the north associated with Hezbollah. | ||
| So I'm going to get to see it all with my own eyes. | ||
| We're going to have special guests from Israel giving people a window into what it's actually like on the ground there. | ||
| I'll be live all next week with my radio show, which is on 12 to 3 Eastern. | ||
| Buck will be back in the States because they wanted somebody back in the States in the event that things go awry with the challenges you can imagine tech-wise of putting a show on from there. | ||
| But I'll be over there. | ||
| I'll take off tonight. | ||
| And I'm looking forward to being able to see with my own eyes and ears what the situation is there and help to paint a picture for people back stateside. | ||
| Well, stay safe because that is now officially a war zone. | ||
| Clay, how do people get to the Clay and Buck show? | ||
| How do they get to your social media? | ||
| Because you're a guy that everyone should be following. | ||
| I want to thank you for being so courageous last night. | ||
| And to throw down hard. | ||
| And for Jesse to have you on there and have such a frank conversation. | ||
| It's refreshing to see that type of urgency, intensity, and honesty on television today. | ||
| So where do people find you, sir? | ||
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Yeah, well, again, I appreciate everything you're doing. | |
| You're at the Vanguard. | ||
| You've taken a lot of blows. | ||
| I'm at Clay Travis out there on Twitter, X. You can stream. | ||
| We're on 500 stations, all 50 states, but you can go to clayandbuck.com is the website, figure out where your station is, stream it. | ||
| And I just encourage everybody listening to you to keep fighting. | ||
| Stay strong. | ||
| I still feel on a positive sense, Steve, like I'm walking on air. | ||
| Ever since we got the win, we won the popular vote. | ||
| It's one of the most fun nights of my life. | ||
| I think it was an important one for the country. | ||
| And I think we've got to move fast and break things in order to put the country back in a position that it deserves to be and should be. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Move fast, break things. | ||
| Clay, thank you so much. | ||
| Clay Travis, be safe. | ||
| Heading to Israel to do a show, Clay and Buck, next week, live from Israel. | ||
| It's going to be amazing. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
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Thank you so much, sir. | |
| Appreciate you. | ||
| We need more of that right now. | ||
| We need more people, I think, going over to Israel and reporting live. | ||
| I think it's very important. | ||
| Not quite so sure totally what is happening there. | ||
| It's a little bit getting... | ||
| Because of the Ukraine situation and because of the situation up in Syria, you know, some people are saying, well, it's diluting Russia's... | ||
| No, I don't think Russia's... | ||
| Their attention's diluted at all. | ||
| And that's why I think the situation in Ukraine is absolutely so horrific. | ||
| Now we're going to be sacrificing, you know, the kids 18 years old, that the parents have fought so hard not to have this war, and they haven't volunteered. | ||
| The reason they're not volunteering, the people in Ukraine don't support the war anymore. | ||
| Poll out, I think a week or 10 days ago, I think it's down to 38% want to continue to fight. | ||
| 52% saying, let's get a deal right now. | ||
| That's only going to get worse and worse and worse as it becomes more and more obvious that Zelensky and, of course, the NATO and particularly the Biden regime and Boris Johnson, the globalists, led these people down the primrose path, what Professor Mersheimer said. | ||
| Told them what's going to happen. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break here. | ||
| We're going to be back. | ||
| We're trying to get down. | ||
| Our own Monica Crowley was named to a huge job yesterday, as was Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
| We're going to try to get Monica on here to talk about it. | ||
| Philip Patrick is going to join me in a little while. | ||
| We're going to talk about capital markets, the economy. | ||
| All next in the War Room. | ||
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| Honored. | ||
| The hits just keep on coming. | ||
| Honored to have another member of the War Room family, one of our contributors, Dr. Monica Crowley. | ||
| Monica, I couldn't be... | ||
| You and Navarro have made my week with all the other great news we had with Besson and Vogue and all that. | ||
| And I was at Russ's event last night in Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| But tell us about you. | ||
| Your job is huge, and it's so vitally important. | ||
| To me, it's perfect for you. | ||
| It puts together the history of the country, where we're going in the future, the Trump movement, MAGA, the nation itself, with all your education, your history, understanding with President Nixon. | ||
| It ties all together. | ||
| Tell the audience what the job is, ma'am, and what you're going to do with it. | ||
| The War Room Posse as well. | ||
| It was a great honor and a joy to sit in for you while you were away as a political prisoner. | ||
| And I'm so grateful to you and to this audience. | ||
| And mostly, I'm grateful to President Trump for giving me this extraordinary opportunity to represent the United States of America, the country I love with all of my heart and soul, and the country I've dedicated my entire adult life To saving and supporting. | ||
| So, for me, this is a true labor of love, Steve. | ||
| And I'm just so deeply honored and deeply humbled that the president has given me the chance to do this. | ||
| So, you know, as I said, I was really honored to serve in his first term at the U.S. Treasury Department. | ||
| And now I consider this an even greater honor because in this job as Chief of Protocol, Assistant Secretary of State, with Ambassador Rank, I do have to go through Senate confirmation for that, but assuming that I make that through, we may need the warwind posse on that as well. | ||
| But I am going to be representing the United States to all heads of state. | ||
| And for all diplomatic engagements carried out by the President of the United States and the Vice President of the United States. | ||
| So I will be coordinating all of those visits. | ||
| I will be briefing the President. | ||
| I will be briefing the Vice President. | ||
| I will be traveling around the world with the President on Air Force One on all international trips, representing him, representing the administration, representing the country. | ||
| And it's just so great. | ||
| You know what my mom said to me yesterday, Steve, she said, ah, finally putting that Ivy League PhD in international affairs to use, Monica. | ||
| And so I made my mom very happy with this job as well. | ||
| But it's gonna be a huge thrill. | ||
| And Steve, I know you and the War Room Posse are really gonna appreciate this. | ||
| Every time a head of state Touches down at Air Force, Andrews Air Force Base, to meet with the president. | ||
| Say it's Xi Jinping, for example. | ||
| The first person they are going to see when they come down the stairs on the tarmac is me. | ||
| Greeting them and welcoming them to the United States of America and bringing them to the White House and bringing them into the meeting with the president of the United States in the Oval Office. | ||
| There is no greater responsibility and there's no greater honor for me. | ||
| I also want to make one last point, Steve, because the president added another portfolio to my responsibilities, which is that I am going to be the public face. | ||
| I'm going to be the administration representative For these major U.S. hosted events with big international participation. | ||
| So America's 250th birthday in 2026, as well as the World Cup, the final, which is going to be played in New York, New Jersey at the Meadowlands in 2026, and the Olympic Games, which will be carried out in Los Angeles in 2028. So the president has given me a big role with regard to those huge events as well. | ||
| The 250th birthday is going to be incredible. | ||
| Within the first 90 days of President Trump's term is Lexington and Concord, the shot heard around the world. | ||
| It's good to know that Monica is going to be on top of all this. | ||
| Did you tell your mom, hey mom, I was the senior comms person and strategist over at Treasury for a couple of years. | ||
| I mean, hey, you guys... | ||
| And you had the greatest economy and the markets were on fire and the bond market was great. | ||
| Mom, I think it's particularly since you didn't come from a hard economics background, to me, that prepped you for this where you're really representing everybody. | ||
| But the work you did at Treasury, Monica, was historic. | ||
| Well, thank you so much, Steve. | ||
| I'm very proud of the work that we all did on behalf of delivering that blue-collar boom under President Trump in the first administration, but a rising economy for every single American. | ||
| I am extremely proud of the work that we did. | ||
| And when she said, yeah, your Ivy League PhD in international relations and foreign affairs, I did remind her that at Treasury, we were doing economic sanctions. | ||
| I think she was teasing me. | ||
| She's extremely proud. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| One last thing, Steve. | ||
| I think it was Benny Johnson, who I talked to yesterday. | ||
| It was Benny or somebody else, but they described my new position as the patriotism czar. | ||
| And I absolutely love that, and I will take that. | ||
| They couldn't have picked a better person. | ||
| President Trump, I know they think so highly of you. | ||
| Social media patriotism czar, where did we go to get you? | ||
| Yes, thank you so much, Steve. | ||
| So the podcast is still going, the Monica Crowley podcast, up on Rumble and Google, Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts. | ||
| And on social media, on Instagram, I'm at Monica Crowley underscore. | ||
| And on Twitter and true social, I'm at Monica Crowley. | ||
| Dr. Monica Crowley, honored to have you on here. | ||
| Thank you for sitting in during the breach. | ||
| You're not quite as controversial as Cash and his hosting. | ||
| Ma'am, thank you so much. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| Thank you so much, my friend. | ||
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Thanks. | |
| Another War Room contributor, guest host. | ||
| She's a superstar, just a rock star. | ||
| Incredible person. | ||
| President Trump picked, and he picked well. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break, 90 seconds. | ||
| We've got a lot more to go through. |
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