Nov. 18, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| In days and weeks, Republicans are going to be asked to confirm appointees who don't agree with their ideological views or priorities and who all the Republicans know are not up to any of the jobs they've been tapped to do. | ||
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But none of that is the point, is it? | |
| Here's how Steve Bannon reacted to the choice of Matt Gaetz's SAT. Matt Gaetz is the fiercest of the fierce warriors. | ||
| He is the firebrand of firebrands. | ||
| He's going to hit the Department of Justice with a blowtorch. | ||
| And that blowtorch is a guy named Matt Gaetz. | ||
| I could say a lot of things about Bannon, but at least he says it all out loud, right? | ||
| And he's been saying it for years. | ||
| Trump's picks are part of this project that Bannon has described for years now publicly as the destruction of the administrative state, the fulfillment of a vision Bannon has been fighting for for years. | ||
| Here he is making that point earlier today. | ||
| We're going to burn some of these institutions down to the ground because you know why? | ||
| They need to be burned down to the ground. | ||
| I think Bannon started with this effort, which again was always out in the open, of destroying the administrative state. | ||
| If I remember the reporting correctly, with a whiteboard in his West Wing office during the short time that he was in the administration. | ||
| And it may have taken longer to arrive at this, but it seems very intentional that the cabinet picks from Trump are meant to divide newsrooms and send them chasing their tails to see if The ethics investigation into Gates is going to break, or Tulsi Gabbard's comments that even Sean Hannity found offensive are going to get any reaction from the mighty Senate Republicans, or if Peg says myriad scandals are going to... | ||
| I mean, it seems that the sum of the reaction to those is intended to advance the broader project of Bannon's. | ||
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I think that the first time that Steve Bannon ever said the phrase, and it actually is the deconstruction of the administrative state, which is the same thing as the destruction of it, but I think the first time he said it out loud to everybody in the world was in February of 2017 at CPAC. Where he was, the Trump forces were ascendant at that point. | |
| Steve was in the White House at that point, and he was, I think, interviewed on stage at CPAC by Reince Priebus, or at least was on stage with Reince Priebus. | ||
| I think it was Priebus talking to Bannon, and Bannon talked about the big priorities in the Trump term. | ||
| He talked about nationalism in terms of foreign policy. | ||
| He talked about nationalism in terms of economic policy. | ||
| And then the third thing he talked about was this deconstruction of the administrative state. | ||
| Steve is not only someone who's been saying this out loud forever, from the moment they walked in the doors there in January of 2017 until now, when Trump was out of office. | ||
| He's also someone who is unlike Donald Trump. | ||
| An extraordinarily well-read and sophisticated thinker. | ||
| And when I say sophisticated, I don't want anybody to think that that means I think he's a good thing in terms of some of these thoughts. | ||
| But I mean, he is someone who has thought a lot about this stuff. | ||
| He's read his Lenin. | ||
| And that's what this is, really. | ||
| It's a Leninist project. | ||
| And I think to your point, Nicole, I think there's a lot of things going on with these. | ||
| Some of it is directed at the media, and that's the frame that you were just putting on it, which is to create chaos in terms of how we cover it. | ||
| But it's also, really importantly, these are tests of... | ||
| It is not a coincidence that Trump dropped the Matt Gaetz announcement to basically break up John Thune's welcome party, his victory party, as having won as majority leader on the Republican Senate side. | ||
| It was like dropping a turd in his punch bowl at his party, basically, and sort of saying, okay, This is the most unacceptable or among the most unacceptable people you could ever put in this job. | ||
| Now, Mr. | ||
| Thune, pass him, please. | ||
| And unlike their leadership vote, which is a secret vote, Trump did not want John Thune to be leader. | ||
| He would rather have had Rick Scott or John Cornyn. | ||
| This is not a secret vote. | ||
| This is a public vote. | ||
| So now every Republican senator is facing the same dynamic that they faced every other time in Trump's political history. | ||
| Which is, do what I say, or I will bring the wrath of MAGA down on you. | ||
| And I think even in this negotiation, we're seeing him go back and forth on the question of recess appointments. | ||
| He is testing the Senate, and he's trying to make it clear that either you will be my rubber stamp Willingly, or you will be my rubber stamp because I force you to be my rubber stamp. | ||
| He's trying to take away advice and consent from the Senate effectively. | ||
| And you saw John Thune last night with Brett Baier on Fox News, and he said, well, I'd really rather do it the normal way. | ||
| We hope we can do it the normal way. | ||
| But the last words out of his mouth were nothing's off the table, meaning doing these things by recess appointment is on the table. | ||
| And you can already see a very familiar dynamic where Donald Trump may end up incredibly. | ||
| I mean, just mind bogglingly. | ||
| He might not be getting his way on these nominees. | ||
| Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard, even RFK Jr. to run these departments. | ||
| These complaints and these concerns that we are airing right now are actually there's a catch 22 here. | ||
| They are fueling Trump world to double down on these nominees because what they what we see as legitimate concerns about the lack of experience, about the capacity to handle the jobs they look at as virtues. | ||
| They want these people to not just disrupt government, but to totally upend the agencies they're supposed to be running. | ||
| And that, complemented with whatever Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are doing at their doji department, is going to likely end up being a massive, massive revamping of the government and shuttering of even whole agencies within departments. | ||
| And so I think we're sort of underselling the radical transformation that might be coming. | ||
| Well, you know, it is, again, you go back to what Steve Bannon said back in 2016, said, I'm a Leninist. | ||
| I want to destroy the state. | ||
| We'll see how that moves forward. | ||
| But again, because so many of these selections, forget about what Democrats are saying. | ||
| Forget about what the media is saying. | ||
| Just look at what Rupert Murdoch's newspapers are saying. | ||
| Look at what Republican senators are saying. | ||
| I mean, we've talked about the Wall Street Journal editorial page being very critical of several of these selections that we're talking about. | ||
| But even the New York Post had an editorial that, of course, the show talked about on Friday that called RFK Jr. | ||
| basically a nut job, that he had crazy ideas, etc., etc., etc. | ||
| So... | ||
| Forget, it's like during the campaign, they said, don't listen to what Kamlehars is saying. | ||
| Listen to what Donald Trump is saying and judge him by that. | ||
| Here, I would just say, don't listen to what Democrats or the media is saying, if you want to hear critiques of, you know, some of these nominations. | ||
| Listen to what the New York Post is saying, what the Wall Street Journal editorial page is saying. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's what I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
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The people have had a belly full of it. | |
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff. | ||
| It's Monday, 18 November, year of early 2024. | ||
| I want to thank our own Natalie Winters. | ||
| Natalie, thank you so much for sitting in for the first hour. | ||
| I appreciate if you hang around just here momentarily as we get into it. | ||
| I got Mike Davis, Darren Beattie, Jeff Clark's going to join us. | ||
| It's game on. | ||
| As I said over the weekend of the speeches I gave at Mar-a-Lago on Friday morning or Friday afternoon and then back here in D.C. on Friday night. | ||
| President Trump took a bullet to the head and then four months later won a landslide victory. | ||
| He gets to pick who's in his government. | ||
| I want to start with Darren Beattie. | ||
| I got the Mike Davis. | ||
| Jeff Clark's going to join us with an amazing piece coming out of Center for Renewing America about the recess appointments and President Trump's Ability to actually force the action there. | ||
| Darren, total meltdown over the weekend. | ||
| It's obvious President Trump is not just getting disruptors. | ||
| If you take the Doge aspect of this, of rethinking the government and finding a trillion dollars led by Elon and Vivek... | ||
| If you couple that with now a CR is going to get kicked in, so President Trump will get a chance to do this first budget. | ||
| And if you look at the quality of people of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| and Hegseth at Defense, and particularly Matt Gaetz, the Matt Gaetz at Justice, because that's the key one, you see that people are serious about basically taking this government apart and getting it back to a limited government with maximum liberty. | ||
| For her citizens, Darren Beattie. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Now we have a huge piece up at revolver.news, which is the definitive piece, not only on why Matt Gaetz is the sole individual to run the DOJ, but a list of very creative and very impactful ideas of what could actually get done. | ||
| So I encourage everyone, revolver.news, this is the definitive piece. | ||
| Before we get into what Attorney General Gaetz will be able to do, just some of the things... | ||
| I think the table setting part is important. | ||
| First of all, we hear this term democracy from the people who've done nothing but subvert the democratic process and will of the people for Basically, since Trump entered the political stage, if a man can run against the coordinated hostility of every single corrupt and powerful institution in the country, | ||
| if he can sustain smears, if he can sustain an avalanche of politically motivated sham lawfare attacks, if he can get a bullet in the head and survive, and if he can deliver an historic victory, including the popular vote, And he's not able to appoint the people that he needs who have the requisite intelligence and courage to implement the mandate that the American people delivered. | ||
| This is not a democracy. | ||
| This is not a country. | ||
| And I celebrate all of these appointments, but I really think, and I've always thought from the beginning, DOJ is the most important appointment. | ||
| So the fact that he picked Matt Gaetz to be at the DOJ, that symbolically sets the tone. | ||
| It sets the narrative that contextualizes all of these other exceptional appointments. | ||
| We've learned from the past, the presidency can only be as strong as the DOJ. What was the Achilles heel from the very beginning was an attorney general wasn't up to the task. | ||
| You need, if anyone you need to be loyal and a fighter, you need that person running the DOJ. And so that's why it's so critical for Matt Gaetz. | ||
| This is the line in the sand. | ||
| This is not negotiable. | ||
| He will be confirmed. | ||
| He must be. | ||
| Start saying this. | ||
| I love the way that Darren said it. | ||
| It's the Attorney General Matt Gaetz. | ||
| He is going to be confirmed. | ||
| I just want to go back to something I made in these speeches. | ||
| The left, the controllers of the apparatus, the controllers of the system... | ||
| The elite globalists, they put democracy on the ballot. | ||
| It was even higher than abortion. | ||
| They put democracy on the ballot and the American people rendered a verdict. | ||
| They said, we want Donald Trump's version of this. | ||
| And Donald Trump's version of this is to get the state out of your grill, to deconstruct the administrative state, like the Supreme Court has backed us up with the Chevron deference ruling that Judge Gorsuch drove. | ||
| Beattie, hang on for a second. | ||
| Let me bring in Davis. | ||
| Davis, everything has been going towards, just not Jeff Sessions, who was maybe not the guy up to the task, but there's a different mindset here about what the Justice Department can do. | ||
| And the quality of the team coming around, we just got to make sure we have killers. | ||
| I got about a minute. | ||
| Give me your summary and I'm going to bring you back at the top of the next block, sir. | ||
| Matt Gaetz is exactly the type of a bold, fearless reformer we need in the Justice Department. | ||
| Matt Gaetz has demonstrated that he's willing to take on sacred cows. | ||
| He took on big tech. | ||
| He was the tip of the spear in the House of Representatives on bipartisan antitrust reforms to take on Google, Amazon, Facebook and Apple. | ||
| He also took on the Republican establishment, including Speaker Kevin McCarthy. | ||
| And so you have Republicans and D.C. hate him as well. | ||
| So that makes me think he is the best pick for President Trump. | ||
| Mike Davis is with us. | ||
| Darren Beattie from Revolver News. | ||
| Mike Davis is from Article 3. | ||
| We're going to be joined with a brilliant paper written about these recess appointments. | ||
| The one and only Jeff Clark, also Jim Rickards, is going to join us. | ||
| We're here in the war room. | ||
| Birchgold.com. | ||
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I'm going to get Philip Patrick on, I think, in the next couple of days. | |
| Birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| No Secretary of Treasury picked. | ||
| No head of the National Economic Council picked. | ||
| President Trump is going through and thinking through, not his plan, I think he's got his plan. | ||
| He's thinking through, you know, the team like he's got a justice. | ||
| The justice team will have Mike Davis coming and comment, you know, the lawyers of justice who are crying and weeping as NBC News reports on election night are now all leaving in a flood. | ||
| Good riddance. | ||
| Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. | ||
| Just make sure you preserve your documents, right? | ||
| Don't go to any shredder. | ||
| But the team that's coming together is extraordinary. | ||
| Next in the War Room. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Van. | |
| Okay, welcome at birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| Make sure you go check it out and talk to Philip Patrick and the team. | ||
| It's going to be a little turbulence. | ||
| It's going to have to be, as you know, because Biden, hey, yesterday or over the weekend, it allowed Zelensky to start launching those long-range missiles or medium-range missiles, I guess they are, that we gave them into Russia. | ||
| You know, World War III is not going to happen there, is it? | ||
| Mike Davis, you did confirmations of the most important confirmations, even more important than cabinet positions, Supreme Court justices. | ||
| So you're an expert in this, on the confirmation process. | ||
| But you're also an expert at Article 3 and your time in town here. | ||
| In fact, Gates is so unacceptable. | ||
| On MSNBC the other day, they actually referred to I don't think they went as far as Clark. | ||
| I think they went as far as you and Payaletta. | ||
| Oh, those guys are acceptable. | ||
| They went in the Senate. | ||
| Talk to me about the team that you see Gates pulling together over justice and some recommendations you've got because we've got to keep all gas, no brake, all pedal to the metal, no brake in this. | ||
| What do you got for me? | ||
| Well, look what we've done, Steve. | ||
| I've spent, what, the last two years on your show trolling the left that I'm going to be the acting attorney general and all the crazy stuff that I was saying. | ||
| We've shifted the Overton window so much now that with Matt Gaetz as the pick, He's such a bold and fearless reformer that now MSNBC thinks Mike Davis is suddenly acceptable. | ||
| That tells you we've got the right guy with Matt Gates. | ||
| He's been on the House Judiciary Committee. | ||
| He's been in Washington long enough to know how the place works. | ||
| But he is definitely an outsider in Washington. | ||
| He is despised by the swamp creatures in Washington because Matt Gaetz is bold. | ||
| He's fearless. | ||
| He took on big tech. | ||
| He took on the Republican establishment, including Kevin McCarthy. | ||
| So there are a lot of dives out for Matt Gaetz, and that makes him an ideal pick to go into the Justice Department to bring serious reforms to the Justice Department. | ||
| We need to end This weaponization of intel agencies and law enforcement, and that is going to require accountability, investigations, and if appropriate, prosecutions of this Democrat lawfare and election interference going back To Obama with Crossfire Hurricane and an ongoing criminal conspiracy with Hunter Biden's laptop and these four indictments and naming Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator in Arizona and the New York Attorney General's Office's civil fraud lawsuit. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| Here's, you know, we've had Davis on here for two years now. | ||
| Going to three years as the Viceroy. | ||
| And, you know, they always cut clips. | ||
| They got Davis up here and myself, and there's all these crazy people who are yelling and screaming about investigations. | ||
| NBC News. | ||
| Not Gateway Pundit. | ||
| Not Breitbart. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Not the National Pulse. | ||
| Not Revolver. | ||
| NBC News reports this morning that Merrick Garland was stunned on election night and that senior Justice Department officials... | ||
| We're weeping. | ||
| That's up on the stack if you go to Citizens Free Press right now in Kane. | ||
| What does that tell you, Davis? | ||
| And they're all worried about going bankrupt, lowering up, like none of us had to pay millions of dollars of legal fees, or some people like Rudy are actually going into bankruptcy because of it. | ||
| What does it tell you when NBC News reports a well-reported, deeply-sourced story that they're panicked over at Maine Justice, sir? | ||
| They should be panicked. | ||
| They should be fearful. | ||
| They should be crying because they have politicized and weaponized our justice systems at every level. | ||
| They did this with the intel agencies with Crossfire Hurricane. | ||
| And these people who participated in this unprecedented republic-ending lawfare and election interference against President Trump His top aides like you, Steve Bannon, and Peter Navarro, who went to prison. | ||
| His supporters on January 6th who were politically persecuted under the Supreme Court's Fisher decision. | ||
| Parents getting targeted by the Biden FBI for raising hell about gender chaos in schools and the resulting rapes in high school bathrooms. | ||
| They sent pro-life Christians, including a 75-year-old Christian, to prison under the FACE Act. | ||
| Because of this corrupt civil rights division by the Biden-Harris Justice Department, Kristen Clark, who's corrupt, who perjured herself to get the job, right? | ||
| There has to be accountability for what happens. | ||
| So I'm glad that they're fearful. | ||
| I'm glad that they're crying. | ||
| They should lawyer up because nobody is above the law, as they always told us. | ||
| And if they didn't commit a crime, they have no reason to be fearful. | ||
| They have no reason to be crying, right? | ||
| Because, of course, you don't prosecute for non-crimes, do you? | ||
| Darren Beattie, the centrality of Gates and what Gates brings, because remember, we fought long-eyes with Matt Gates before, taking down the Speaker of the House, winning in 22, the midterms where Gates was central to. | ||
| Getting the Appropriations Bill 12, all the structural changes that Matt Gates made. | ||
| Why is Matt Gates... | ||
| The key that picks a lot here. | ||
| Of all these other great choices, why is he central and why is it an imperative that we show strength by not having a recess appointment on him, but we actually get him passed by the United States Senate, sir? | ||
| Well, I think a number of things. | ||
| First of all, he has a demonstrated and unwavering loyalty, not only to Trump, but to the MAGA agenda that was just approved by an historic Majority by the electorate. | ||
| This is the mandate. | ||
| This is part of the mandate. | ||
| So I think that loyalty is critical. | ||
| And like I alluded to earlier, we've seen in previous instances how a weak and disloyal AG can severely cripple the presidency. | ||
| weak AGs have traditionally been the Achilles heel of the presidency as far as Trump. | ||
| And so I think this is why part of the reason why Trump is, quote, all in on the Gates confirmation, because he understands how central it is, how indispensable it is to have someone who is loyal not only to him, but to the agenda that the American people resoundingly but to the agenda that the American people resoundingly approved, how critical that is to getting the job done more generally. | ||
| Because if you're bogged down in all of this nonsense, like he was in the first term, that not only affects what's going on in the DOJ, that affects the bandwidth that you have to implement the agenda across the institutions of government. | ||
| So So that's why it's really critical. | ||
| And also about Gates is, yes, he's a firebrand. | ||
| Yes, he's a disruptor. | ||
| But he's also an exceptionally acute lawyer. | ||
| He understands how to do things. | ||
| This isn't just someone who's going to go in and break things willy-nilly. | ||
| There's a surgical aspect to his intelligence. | ||
| He knows what to do. | ||
| He knows how to deal with the media. | ||
| But he also knows how to deal with the bureaucracy. | ||
| He knows how to navigate it. | ||
| And I think that's also what's going to make him tremendously effective. | ||
| You know, in our piece at Revolver News, we had just a couple of creative things that if you have someone who's open to creative thinking, can absolutely do. | ||
| You know, in the first term, there was a religious liberty task force in the DOJ. There can be a First Amendment task force now. | ||
| It's kind of a nerve center to deal with all of the censorship and First Amendment issues. | ||
| And even if it comes out, as it has a bit in the Twitter files, that There have been people violating the law in terms of the First Amendment. | ||
| You can go after them. | ||
| Here's one of my favorite ideas. | ||
| False Claims Act. | ||
| It's a very little known act that dates back to the Civil War. | ||
| But effectively, what it says is it gives any potential whistleblower standing to expose fraud against the government. | ||
| Now, this is traditionally used for health care in the health care arena and tax arena. | ||
| But there's no reason this can't be extended, for instance, to say if universities say they're not doing affirmative action and they actually are, people can expose this and get a bounty. | ||
| So, hey, Hank, Hank, Darren, Darren, Darren, Darren, hang on one second. | ||
| President Trump And Jeff Clark jump in at breaking. | ||
| Trump has told Senate Majority Leader Thune that if Matt Gaetz is not confirmed by the Senate, he will appoint him using the Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998. | ||
| Now, you just wrote a piece on the power of the executive branch on these resource appointments. | ||
| Jeff Clark, Mike, if you and Darren can hang on for a second. | ||
| Is that along the lines of where President Trump just tweeted this out, or is there something different? | ||
| That's different from the Recess Appointment Clause. | ||
| So President Trump has both tools in his quiver, Steve. | ||
| He has the Recess Appointment Power, which is a constitutional power, and then he has the Congress giving him power under the Federal Vacancies Reform Act, or what we call the FVRA, that allows putting in officials temporarily. | ||
| So, both things exist and, you know, I'd actually written some internal papers and done a lot of research about the FBRA as well, so I know how that works. | ||
| And the last thing I would say is that, you know, Darren Beatty got on talking about the False Claims Act. | ||
| That was the act that the Civil Division administered, which I had charge of during the Trump administration at the end. | ||
| And also, the Civil Division has charge of defending FBRA challenges, and we faced a lot of them against Chad Wolf, especially at the Department of Homeland Security. | ||
| So this is a key tool that President Trump also has to fill out his cabinet and sub-cabinet. | ||
| Does your paper and analysis say that basically President Trump can force the hands of both houses of Congress to basically put him into recess and then he does his recess appointments? | ||
| I just want to make sure that Nicole Wallace's head blows up appropriately today for her show. | ||
| Are you saying that President Trump can actually force the houses into recess and do his appointments then? | ||
| So, Steve, under the Constitution, if the two houses disagree about whether to adjourn or stay in session, then the president has the power to send them into recess, both houses, for as long as he sees fit. | ||
| So it's a very important power. | ||
| It hasn't been wielded in the past before, but the framers were keen on giving that power to the president. | ||
| It's an analog of a power that existed in English law. | ||
| Hang on for one second. | ||
| Darren Beattie, the founder, editor, publisher of Revolver News. | ||
| Mike Davis, the founder of Article 3, and the individual who got these Supreme Court justices, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch, confirmed with Don McGahn and Grassley's staff, all of it, a warrior. | ||
| And Jeff Clark, who is a senior leader in the Justice Department under President Trump and a warrior. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return in a moment. | ||
| Can President Trump force the hand of the legislative branch if needed? | ||
| He just put a shot across the bow of John Thune in the Republican-controlled Senate, or the new one that will come up in January 3rd. | ||
| A lot going on in the War Room. | ||
| Stick around. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Van. | |
| Blockbuster news for this audience. | ||
| Our own Kash Patel, just named the director of the FBI. I want to start with Mike Davis on this one. | ||
| Mike, you got Gates. | ||
| And President Trump, whether he's got to use the Appointments Act of 1998 or use for the first time in the history of forcing him into... | ||
| You know, going in recess. | ||
| President Trump's laid down. | ||
| Matt Gaetz is going to be his attorney general. | ||
| He doesn't want to hear any gruff about it. | ||
| What about Kash Patel? | ||
| Think of the touchdown twins. | ||
| Gaetz at main justice, at DOJ, and Kash Patel at FBI, sir. | ||
| Kash Patel is another Grand Slam pick. | ||
| by President Trump to lead the FBI, the most broken and corrupt institution in Washington, D.C. Cash has serious legal credentials, serious national security credentials, And he will go in there and make the necessary reforms to fix the FBI that has been so badly politicized and weaponized against Trump, his top aides, | ||
| his allies since at least Crossfire Hurricane, the biggest his allies since at least Crossfire Hurricane, the biggest scandal in American history where the Obama-Biden administration weaponized the FBI and intel agencies to go after Trump on Crossfire Hurricane. | ||
| Because Hillary had her illegal home server as Secretary of State hacked with our nation's most classified secrets and her foreign bribery schemes. | ||
| And that's what this lawfare against Trump is all about. | ||
| It's an ongoing criminal conspiracy starting under Crossfire Hurricane. | ||
| Cash is the perfect pick. | ||
| He has the experience of. | ||
| He has the confidence. | ||
| He has the loyalty to go clean house at the FBI. I don't want to say it's because of his book and then the movie we did I produced, Government Gangsters, but we'll make sure we show that. | ||
| Just hang on. | ||
| Mike, hang with me for one minute. | ||
| I'm going to talk about other people. | ||
| Darren Beattie, you've been in the trenches. | ||
| You were the only... | ||
| You're a professor at an Ivy League or Ivy League equivalent university that endorsed publicly President Trump in 2016. | ||
| Your reward for that was that you got thrown out and vilified and they tried to crush you. | ||
| You came to the White House. | ||
| You were a superstar. | ||
| You've been in the trenches, fixed bayonets with us for many years. | ||
| Your thoughts about B. Cash Patel has been nominated to be director of the FBI, sir. | ||
| Other than reiterate, he's the perfect guy. | ||
| Again, he's somebody who has the intelligence and the capability to do what needs to be done. | ||
| If I could offer my own kind of personal wish list, which I think he is very interested in doing because we've talked about it and he's been on board with it, you know, the FBI is the epicenter of the cover-up for the January 6th Fedsurrection. | ||
| In fact, It just came out that the head of the Washington field office lied to Congress when he told them that the telecom data was corrupted that could help identify this pipe bomber. | ||
| So this is just one of the many things that Patel will be in a position to do. | ||
| And I think he has every interest in doing that because This is the part of the deep cleaning process. | ||
| And the deep cleaning process is not just about exposing the criminals who have run the country into the ground. | ||
| It's about the arguably more important task of restoring much needed legitimacy to our institutions in this country. | ||
| Without this restoration process, The country will not be on a proper footing to dominate and thrive into the century. | ||
| The work that this administration will do with people like Patel, people like Matt Gates, people like Elon from the outside, the work that they're doing is critical to setting our nation on a footing for success Into the century. | ||
| That's what the stakes are. | ||
| And that's why Trump, who understands those stakes, is not making any compromises in terms of his appointments. | ||
| And Kash Patel is just the latest of these excellent people that he's chosen to carry on this task. | ||
| Darren, where do people go to get the definitive piece on Matt Gaetz? | ||
| You must read it today, folks, and you must share it. | ||
| We need you to be back. | ||
| Force multipliers. | ||
| Where do they go, Darren? | ||
| Revolver.News, this is a huge piece, not just why he's the guy to do it, but many, many creative and absolutely incisive and effective things that you can do when you have someone like that at the helm. | ||
| Revolver.News, read it, share it. | ||
| Okay, we're going to address this again in the 5 and 6 o'clock show tonight. | ||
| Darren Beattie, thank you very much. | ||
| Jeff Clark, you've had the jackboots of the FBI up in your grill in your house. | ||
| What are your first thoughts about the Cash Patel, nominated by Donald J. Trump to be the director of the FBI to take the position of J. Edgar Hoover, sir? | ||
| First thought is congrats, Cash, my friend and former colleague at the Center for Renewing America. | ||
| It's well deserved. | ||
| Steve, Cash has an excellent background for this and a diverse background. | ||
| He comes from being a federal public defender. | ||
| He comes from being an attorney at the National Security Division of the Justice Department, which was created in the wake of 9-11. | ||
| And so he has Excellent national security credentials right there. | ||
| And then, obviously, we know that he exposed the Russia collusion hoax working with Devin Nunes as the key staffer over for Devin Nunes. | ||
| And, Steve, did you have something to interrupt me with? | ||
| Yeah, hang on. | ||
| I'm just, I think, did we misread that? | ||
| He's not nominated. | ||
| They're saying that if he's nominated, he's going to destroy the FBI. Daggone it. | ||
| Somebody sent me a tweet here. | ||
| I'm not saying it's false news. | ||
| He's not yet nominated. | ||
| Okay, if he does get this nomination, by the way, we've got to get this nomination. | ||
| He should not be the deputy. | ||
| The deputy runs the building, but Cash has got to be the front porch of it. | ||
| How important is Cash in doing that? | ||
| Well, I think Cash would be great, Steve, and so I'll hold back my congratulations until we see what the decision is. | ||
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| But for cash, there's all this concern that they can't get confirmed. | ||
| Trump's got two alternatives, and he said he just did the one in 1998, that he's going to use the Vacancies Act. | ||
| But yours is actually more aggressive. | ||
| What can President Trump do to get Gates confirmed and to get Patel confirmed if he needs it? | ||
| Well, before I unpack the recess appointments clause a little bit, Steve, let me say this. | ||
| It's even better than that because you can combine the two tools. | ||
| You could recess appoint somebody and then that lasts basically for two years until the end of the next session. | ||
| of Congress, each session being a year. | ||
| And then you can tack on another 210 days as acting after that under the Federal Vacancy Reform Act. | ||
| So the tools are additive, you know, like a kind of kapal synergy. | ||
| So coming back to the recess appointments clause, The president has had this power since the founding of the Constitution. | ||
| Hundreds and hundreds of recess appointments have been made in our history, including by modern presidents. | ||
| And for some reason, surprise, surprise, the media and a lot of the Never Trumper types want to pretend that This is not a power that the president has, or if he exercises it, the sky comes falling. | ||
| None of that is true. | ||
| And why is it that President Trump is looking at exercising that power now? | ||
| It's because the confirmation process, especially as to Republicans, has gotten out of control. | ||
| In my lifetime, I've seen Judge Bork, an honorable man, a Yale law professor, massive I've seen Clarence Thomas, them nearly take him out with their high-tech lynching. | ||
| And I've seen them attempt to take out Brett Kavanaugh, which thankfully was stopped by Mike Davis and others working with Justice Kavanaugh. | ||
| So in order to push back on that in the hurly-burly of the separation of powers, President Trump is talking about using this Recess Appointments Clause power. | ||
| And there are many of us who think that he should in order to set right the boundaries between the branches of the government. | ||
| Davis, you've done confirmations in some of the toughest at the Supreme Court. | ||
| Is Clark right? | ||
| Is the confirmation process gotten so bad, particularly for Trump, that he has to look at these, quite frankly, I guess, powers, but it looks like extraordinary powers, sir, including this one that Clark writes about, that he could essentially force Congress into recess and then do his recess appointments, sir? | ||
| Every option should be on the table. | ||
| I was the chief counsel for nominations for the first year and a half for 18 months of Trump's administration, and Jeff Clark was one of the nominees who languished in the Senate along with many others. | ||
| For a senior Justice Department post. | ||
| And it was because the Democrats used every obstruction tactic they could. | ||
| They had the bogus Russian collusion hoax scaring the Republicans into thinking that Trump was appointing all these Russian assets into these key posts. | ||
| And it's nonsense. | ||
| And we should not play their games this time. | ||
| I broke almost every piece of China in the Senate to make sure we confirmed President Trump's nominees, and we should not play games this time. | ||
| We should move forward. | ||
| And if they don't want to If the Senate doesn't want to move forward on Trump's qualified nominees, they have a constitutional duty in the Senate. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| They have to make sure that the people have good character and fitness and they're qualified, but they should also defer to the president on his cabinet picks and his other senior executive branch picks. | ||
| If they want to obstruct, just to obstruct, then Trump needs to use the vacancy act and the recess appointments to get his people picked. | ||
| I would say this about Kash Patel. | ||
| He is very qualified for this job as the FBI, and he should get confirmed. | ||
| And he should get confirmed very quickly because he is very good at this job. | ||
| Grassley's office, his chief counsel for oversight and investigations, thinks very highly of Kash Patel and worked very closely with Kash Patel on Crossfire Hurricane and other critical oversight. | ||
| It knows Kash Patel is a very serious lawyer, a very serious national security official, a very serious reformer. | ||
| Kash Patel is perfect to go reform the FBI, and I think he's going to have pretty strong support on the Senate Judiciary Committee with Chairman Chuck Grassley's office. | ||
| And that's going to lead to his confirmation. | ||
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| Because you're bringing up something that nobody – I've never heard anybody address. | ||
| In fact, I didn't – I'm not an obviously expert anywhere near the people like the Mark Levins and these people that are – understand the Constitution so deeply. | ||
| This is something, quite frankly, I haven't heard of before and haven't heard people talk about. | ||
| What do you think we need to do to push this out there and to get this into the conversation? | ||
| Steve, look, people should go to the Center for Renewing America website, americarenewing.com, and you can find the paper there. | ||
| It's also out on all of the social medias, and it's already drawn an attempted rebuttal piece from Ed Whalen, who was in the Bush administration. | ||
| Justice Department and, you know, who I consider to be, you know, a friendly acquaintance. | ||
| Indeed, like back in that era, like our kids had played together on one occasion. | ||
| But, you know, I think he's wrong that the president doesn't have this power as President Trump might try to exercise it. | ||
| He rushed out a piece on the National Review online to respond to my piece Which dropped yesterday afternoon. | ||
| So people should go look at my piece, right? | ||
| We believe in healthy debate. | ||
| They should go look at Ed Whalen's piece. | ||
| And they should look at, you know, back and forth on Twitter about this with commentators and legal scholars. | ||
| And what I say is, look, the president clearly has this power. | ||
| And Steve, I'll announce it here first. | ||
| Not only do we have this eight-pager out, which is a summary that I think is accessible by any Wow. | ||
| Hang for a second. | ||
| Where do people get you, Jeff? | ||
| I know you've got to bounce. | ||
| Where do they get your social media and your Hangout over at CRA? Sure. | ||
| So on X and Getter, I'm at JeffClarkUS and on Truth Social at Real Jeff Clark. | ||
| And the Center for Renewing America is AmericaRenewing.com. | ||
| Davis, I'll have you back on about the appointees. | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| Article 3. | ||
| Everybody wants to join. | ||
| Where do they go, brother? | ||
| Article3project.org. | ||
| Article3project.org. | ||
| Donate there. | ||
| Follow us on social media. | ||
| And most importantly, take action. | ||
| Love you, brother. | ||
| Clark, you guys are warriors. | ||
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| On the nomination of Matt Gaetz. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| All right, Jim Rickards on the other side. | ||
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| Okay, Jim Rickards joins us. | ||
| Jim, you've had, I call them the five horsemen of the deep state apocalypse, led by Matt Gaetz at AG. It looks like there's some stirring with Cash Patel, either to be deputy or FBI director, or there's something going on. | ||
| Andrew Bailey of the AG of Missouri, a name also kicked around, but something's happening over there. | ||
| Give me your sense. | ||
| You've been in and out of the intelligence community. | ||
| You know capital markets very well. | ||
| They're in total meltdown, not just the mainstream media, but inside the apparatus here in D.C. Your thoughts on President Trump's first wave brother? | ||
| First of all, it stands in really marked contrast in a good way compared to 2016. | ||
| We don't have to revisit all that, but he had a couple good appointments and he got sidetracked with these You know, Kelly and McMaster and all that. | ||
| Now they've obviously given a lot of thought. | ||
| They're moving at warp speed. | ||
| What's interesting is every time Trump makes an announcement, the left melts down, and then he makes another one, and they melt down some more. | ||
| So it's like he just keeps upping the ante. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard, can't think of anyone better for Director of National Intelligence. | ||
| I've met her just obviously smart, but she's the nicest person you ever want to meet. | ||
| Really... | ||
| Really great conversation with her. | ||
| I looked at a military record. | ||
| She's a lieutenant colonel, but she specializes with the Army. | ||
| She specializes in PSYOP, psychological operations. | ||
| I can't think of any better training for an intelligence director than someone who's good at psychological operations. | ||
| That's, you know, about half of what they do. | ||
| So, extremely well qualified. | ||
| Matt Gaetz got, you know, very brainy, got the right amount of aggressiveness. | ||
| You need that. | ||
| And the Department of Justice has been so, you know, weaponized and Steve, I've been mainly focused on the one big announcement they haven't made, which is the Treasury Secretary. | ||
| I'm not in the transition deal. | ||
| I don't want to get involved in all the names there. | ||
| But I think it's interesting to talk about what the Treasury Secretary actually does if you're going to try to pick the right name for it. | ||
| So I'll talk about budget deficits and all that. | ||
| The Treasury finances the budget deficit, but they don't really determine it. | ||
| That's the OMB and the White House and the Congress. | ||
| That's actually less important. | ||
| They run the bond market, of course, U.S. Treasury securities market. | ||
| But that's actually easy. | ||
| You just call up the primary dealers, you know, the big banks. | ||
| So what do the customers want? | ||
| You give it to them. | ||
| You don't try to sell them, you know, hoodies if they want sneakers. | ||
| Give them sneakers. | ||
| In this case, they want Treasury bills. | ||
| So give them Treasury bills. | ||
| That's very important in terms of liquidity and not having a Your dollar money market meltdown. | ||
| The key job is to protect the U.S. dollar. | ||
| Now, again, this is not understood. | ||
| Everyone thinks the Fed handles the dollar. | ||
| The chairman of the Fed will be the first one to tell you, we don't do that. | ||
| That's the Treasury's job. | ||
| You look at some of the great Treasury secretaries, Henry Morgenthau, James Baker, Bob Rubin, they always put the dollar first. | ||
| Now, the dollar is pretty strong against the currency, so Trump will be off to a good start. | ||
| But that's the main job. | ||
| But inside the Treasury, they have the Office of Intelligence Analysis. | ||
| That's an in-house CIA. They have an intelligence unit in the Treasury. | ||
| It's one of the intelligent community members, which means that that's going to sync up with Tulsi Gabbard. | ||
| That's the DNI's job to synchronize all that. | ||
| So you want somebody with some intelligence chops. | ||
| They run CFIUS. You say CFIUS is like, you know, does it itch or burn? | ||
| That's the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States. | ||
| Now, Trump's going to put up tariffs. | ||
| We already know that. | ||
| That's kind of the light. | ||
| Peter Navarro have been behind that. | ||
| Well, if you put up tariffs, what Trump's always saying is you can sell to Americans, but you've got to make it in the United States. | ||
| That means they need to jump the tariff wall. | ||
| And one way to do that is to buy U.S. companies. | ||
| Well, CFIUS is the gatekeeper on whether a foreign country buying a U.S. company is a threat or not. | ||
| And that's interagency, but that's coordinated with the Treasury. | ||
| So Treasury Secretary has to run CFIUS. And again, that's an important gatekeeper from a national security perspective on foreign investment. | ||
| Office of Foreign Asset Control. | ||
| We always hear about sanctions. | ||
| That's where they run it. | ||
| They run it out of the U.S. Treasury. | ||
| Financial warfare is conducted by the U.S. Treasury. | ||
| Again, this is what I teach at the U.S. Army War College. | ||
| And just very quickly, the Iranian sanctions. | ||
| Obama ran Iranian sanctions. | ||
| They worked very well. | ||
| Got the Iranians to the table on the nuclear deal. | ||
| He did a lousy deal, but he got them to the table. | ||
| Trump ran what they call maximum pressure. | ||
| Maximum pressure against Iran. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| It was very little terrorism because Iran didn't have any money. | ||
| So that worked. | ||
| Meanwhile, Biden comes along and they run sanctions against Russia, and they're a complete failure. | ||
| So here's the question. | ||
| Why did sanctions work against Iran, but they failed completely against Russia? | ||
| There's a three-part answer to that. | ||
| Again, this is what I teach. | ||
| It's kind of complicated. | ||
| But the point is, you have to understand that difference and understand why one works and why he doesn't. | ||
| So you're going to want someone who can do that. | ||
| And though it's a financial crimes enforcement network, Which is supposed to be for smugglers and money launders and so forth. | ||
| But it's been weaponized. | ||
| Gave Hunter Biden a free pass. | ||
| So you have to clean that up. | ||
| So I look at the names. | ||
| Howard Lutnick's probably best qualified to run the bond market. | ||
| But it's the easiest job. | ||
| Scott Besant probably has the intelligence jobs. | ||
| Partly because he worked with Soros and ran a lot of money for Soros. | ||
| That's like a prior intelligence network. | ||
| Lighthouser is the best all-rounder. | ||
| By the way, getting back to Besant. | ||
| He's come up with a three-hour plan, 3% real growth, 3% deficit relative to GDP, and 3 million barrels of oil, additional production. | ||
| That's a brilliant plan. | ||
| That tells me right there that he understands the problem. | ||
| People say, you have to pay off the national debt. | ||
| You don't have to pay off the national debt. | ||
| You just have to roll it over. | ||
| But how do you do that sustainably? | ||
| The answer is, grow the economy faster than the debt. | ||
| So he gets it. | ||
| But you almost have to be nationally... | ||
| We've got to bounce. | ||
| By the way, I think he's in the mix if he doesn't get Treasury for National Economic Council. | ||
| Real quick, I've got about a minute. | ||
| Where do people go to get the newsletters? | ||
| Where do they get all your books? | ||
| Because now more than ever, in the firestorm of capital markets and geopolitics, that intersection is where Jim Rickards lives. | ||
| Where do they go, sir? | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| We have a landing page. | ||
| It's meltdown24.com, meltdown24.com, meltdown24.com. | ||
| You can subscribe to our flagship newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. | ||
| And if you do, you get a free copy of my book, The New Case for Gold, which is pretty more relevant than ever given the role of gold. | ||
| Jim, great to have you on here. | ||
| Looking forward to having you back here in a couple of days. | ||
| There's so many important announcements coming. | ||
| Jim Rickards. | ||
| What's it? | ||
| Meltdown24.com, the landing page. | ||
| Go check out all his writings, all his newsletters, all his books. | ||
| Charlie Kirk is next. | ||
| POSO is after that. | ||
| So you've got two hours of Kirk. | ||
| You've got an hour of POSO. We're back here at 5 to 7 live. | ||
| Hopefully we have an update on FBI, Treasury, all of it, OMB. There is so much going on in the transition. | ||
| Also the fight for confirmations and Jeff Clark, I think a little more of a drill down. | ||
| President Trump can force the action here. | ||
| He has sent a shot across the bow of John Thune and says, Yo, dude, Matt Gaetz is my Attorney General. | ||
| Let's get on with it. | ||
| So that's what we say. | ||
| The first among equals in this, Matt Gaetz. | ||
| Of course, defense, DHS, HHS. All of it. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| Huge. | ||
| Charlie Kirk next. | ||
| We'll see you back here at 5 p.m. |
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