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We're not going to have a country anymore. | ||
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You're listening and watching in Kinston, North Carolina, southeast of Raleigh, President Trump's North Carolina rally. | ||
North Carolina were the critical states for Tuesday. | ||
We're going to continue coverage of President Trump. | ||
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This man was... | ||
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One thing I found out, his wife loves him. | |
She was so devastated. | ||
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This wife, he's got a great wife and she loves him. | |
She was so devastated she couldn't even think. | ||
Steve Scully, stand up, Steve. | ||
Great. | ||
Amazing. | ||
He got hit hard, Mike, right? | ||
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Say hello to your wife and family. | ||
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Okay, we're going to go back. | ||
They're going to do the honor roll there for who's there. | ||
President's going to talk about more things. | ||
We're going to jump back in. | ||
I want to bring in and want to thank Real America's Voice, Parker and Rob Sig, for allowing us and giving us additional time here on a Sunday. | ||
We're back, obviously, tomorrow morning, 10 to noon, and then 5 to 7, and then we're going to Tuesday show from the warm, and then shift the flag over to, for our, on our spectacular Washington coverage. | ||
From the Imperial Capitol, the heart of the Imperial Capitol, On Tuesday. | ||
Boyle, you're going to be down in Mar-a-Lago, sitting on the beach drinking Mai Tais, right? | ||
On Tuesday? | ||
I'm not going to be in Mar-a-Lago. | ||
I'm going to be at home. | ||
I'm in North Florida, and I'm going to be manning my own little war room here, going through numbers. | ||
Okay, fine, fine. | ||
Okay, you answer the question. | ||
You're going to be working as you always do. | ||
You're best when that command center you've got. | ||
Matt, you did what I call the Matt Boyle special. | ||
It was an amazing piece. | ||
It went up early this afternoon at Breitbart. | ||
And it's pure analytics of exactly where we stand through the eyes of a very smart guy who's the national political editor at Breitbart. | ||
That would be you. | ||
Can you walk us through, and if Denver can put the article up, and if Grayson Moe can get it not only on the site, but I want to push this out on social media. | ||
Can you walk us through it? | ||
Because I think it's the best way... | ||
To end the weekend thinking about where we are with the math, not with a bunch of guesswork, but really with the math. | ||
The floor is yours. | ||
Yeah, so Steve, what I did was I went through all the polls, all the early vote data, and this is what I'm doing constantly in an election is I'm trying to make sense of it. | ||
I'm listening to and reading all the top analysts, guys like Nate Silver. | ||
Sean Trendy, Nate Cohn, right? | ||
And what I'm trying to do is make sense or heads or tails of what's going to happen. | ||
I don't want happy talk from either side. | ||
And the picture that I think emerges here is that all the fundamentals are there for a Donald Trump victory on Tuesday. | ||
The baseline stuff is there for the polls to be off. | ||
Now, by the way, if the polls are exactly right, generally speaking... | ||
Trump might win a squeaker victory, right? | ||
Like what we're seeing across battleground states. | ||
But if the polling error and if there is a polling error and if it's as profound as we saw in both 2016 and 2020, the only other two times we've seen Donald Trump on the ballot, then that would suggest that Donald Trump's headed for a landslide victory across the country. | ||
And there's a lot of people that are really smart that are suggesting that that might be the case again. | ||
Guys like Sean Trendy from RealClearPolitics. | ||
Again, not the most conservative guy in the world. | ||
He's just an analyst, straight up trying to call it, right? | ||
People like JMC Analytics, people like, like I said, Nate Cohn at the New York Times when releasing their final polls this weekend, which were kind of a mixed bag, right? | ||
They have Trump up in Arizona. | ||
They have Kamala up in Nevada, North Carolina, Georgia, Wisconsin, and a tie ballgame in Michigan and Pennsylvania. | ||
It just kind of doesn't make much sense when you look at the big picture. | ||
But then when you read Nate Cohn's article in the New York Times revealing their stuff, and this is a data guy. | ||
He knows his stuff. | ||
He says that there was a 16-point response bias here where... | ||
Liberals were more likely to answer the polls than conservatives. | ||
So that suggests there might be a polling error here. | ||
When you read people like Nate Silver, same thing. | ||
You see a similar picture. | ||
And then when you look at things that have come out, the biggest thing that probably came out over the last 24 hours here is the Des Moines Register poll. | ||
And frankly, Ann Seltzer is revered by the establishment media. | ||
So they look at her As though she is the oracle of what will happen. | ||
That the best pollster in the country, you'll hear people say, they'll say it's the gold standard, etc. | ||
And they put out this Des Moines Register poll that has Kamala up three in Iowa. | ||
And that's a shocker, right? | ||
Like to a lot of people. | ||
But then you on the same side, you've got another poll that came out from Emerson College that shows Donald Trump up double digits and doing better than his numbers in 2020. | ||
So both things really can't be true. | ||
Unless you're at the extreme ends of both margin of error, and there's a little crossover there at the extreme ends of both polls, if that ends up being the case. | ||
But the question really becomes, this gets down to the picture of what we've been talking about here, which is that the early vote numbers suggest across the board that this is all going to be a game day operation on Tuesday. | ||
Donald Trump is in a position to win if his supporters come out en masse, if men vote en masse, if white working class voters vote en masse, and if Latinos and black voters break a little bit more for Trump than we've seen in the past, as everything is suggesting, then, you know, things are looking good for him, right? | ||
Like, so we see leads by Republicans in early voting in Nevada, North Carolina, and And Arizona. | ||
In Georgia, we don't have partisan breakdown, but the numbers across the board in Georgia look strong. | ||
In Pennsylvania, we are seeing significant drop-off in turnout in the blackest precincts in areas like Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. | ||
We're seeing a similar drop in black turnout in North Carolina, Georgia, and other places around the country. | ||
There are a lot of smart data guys like Patrick Ruffini from Echelon Insights who have been flagging this stuff. | ||
JMC Analytics, John Cuvion has been flagging it as well. | ||
So these are smart people that are going through the data. | ||
And so what I tried to do here is pull together a picture of where we're at. | ||
And by the way, there's tons and tons more, if you notice at the end of the article. | ||
And I did this in a first person. | ||
I generally don't write in the first person. | ||
Because I try to keep it to just the news, but I tried to, you know, and I don't make a formal prediction on what's going to happen in the election. | ||
I make that clear up front. | ||
But I do kind of lay out throughout the story that all the fundamentals are there for a Trump victory and that people wouldn't be shocked if and when it happens. | ||
And, you know, the smart people across the media have been saying this and warning their side about it for some time. | ||
But at the same time, Trump voters shouldn't rest on their laurels here going into Tuesday either. | ||
They need to turn out. | ||
Like, their lives depend on it because, frankly, they do. | ||
And the idea that this is in the bag, it's not. | ||
Kamala Harris can win this election. | ||
If Kamala Harris holds the blue wall, she wins. | ||
Yeah, I want to go to that now. | ||
Let's take the southern states. | ||
Let me go back. | ||
You said something that if you take the numbers as they are, in reviewing the numbers that people have put out, and not question whether there's been response bias or there's this traditional... | ||
Trump under-polling. | ||
Because I think you get into dangerous territory there, particularly given, hey, it happened in 2016. | ||
You and I know that. | ||
Because we were very confident we were going to win, and we did win. | ||
We were down, I think, three and a half the night before. | ||
The same thing with Biden. | ||
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But if you just... | |
Keep the numbers where you are. | ||
Walk us through why that is a squeaker victory, and what is the path of that victory if the numbers are exactly like they say they are? | ||
So the place I would look for that is the Atlas Intel polls. | ||
Atlas Intel was the most accurate pollster in the 2020 election, and they have Donald Trump currently leading every single battleground state. | ||
But these are tight leads, right? | ||
So I don't have the numbers exactly in front of me, but I mean, we're talking less than two or three points. | ||
North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. | ||
But Donald Trump leads all seven, according to the final polling from Atlas Intel that came out last night. | ||
So that poll would suggest that. | ||
In addition to that, we see an NBC News poll today, which is a national poll. | ||
That has Donald Trump leading by one in a crowded field, right? | ||
Like if you include all the third-party candidates and tied straight up with Kamala Harris. | ||
But the thing that I would – and if Donald Trump wins the national popular vote by 1%, he's going to win the Electoral College. | ||
I mean it's hard to see him not winning the Electoral College if that's the case, right? | ||
So that is a big deal. | ||
And I think that a national popular vote victory for Trump would go a very long way to – Solidifying his position if he were to win the election on Tuesday. | ||
Now, on the flip side of the coin, there are a lot of cautionary tales out there, right? | ||
Like, so you don't want to pick and choose and just believe the polls that you like, right? | ||
Like, so there's also an ABC News poll today that has Kamala Harris up three nationally. | ||
That's a dangerous territory for Trump. | ||
And so, again, it depends on which ones you... | ||
You believe, right? | ||
It depends on which polls you trust and which data you look at to inform the picture you've got. | ||
The easiest path for Donald Trump to the 270 electoral votes is he holds together everything he had in 2020, including Maine's 2nd District and North Carolina. | ||
North Carolina is the only battleground state in there of the seven that we talk about that Trump won in 2020. | ||
He flips back Georgia. | ||
And he flips Pennsylvania. | ||
If he does that, Donald Trump gets exactly 270 votes without anything else, right? | ||
Like without talking about Arizona or Nevada or Wisconsin or Michigan. | ||
But there are other pathways for Trump. | ||
So in addition to that pathway, if Trump holds, everything hinges here on holding North Carolina. | ||
And so that's really important. | ||
And the early vote data in North Carolina is the most promising of any of the states, I would say, because we get the most data. | ||
There's been more than 4.4 million people that have voted in North Carolina already. | ||
And the Republicans finished early voting. | ||
Early voting ended yesterday. | ||
Republicans finished early voting in second place behind unaffiliated voters. | ||
Unaffiliated surged at the end. | ||
But the Democrats finished in third place for the first time ever. | ||
We've never seen that. | ||
And that's a drop in enthusiasm for the Democrats. | ||
And a big part of that seems to be a drop off in black voters in a significant way in big numbers. | ||
And we're talking to many people who've been studying these North Carolina numbers that go into detail with that stuff. | ||
So and there's been a lot of signs that that's the case. | ||
And I know you saw President Trump there in North Carolina. | ||
I think he's trying to finish strong and I think he enjoys doing rallies in North Carolina. | ||
But frankly, I think North Carolina has been trending his way for quite some time with the early vote numbers. | ||
And, you know, that's the that's the most important piece here. | ||
Right. | ||
He's got to hold North Carolina. | ||
He holds North Carolina and then he flips Georgia back. | ||
Then if, you know, you're talking about the not getting Pennsylvania, you then need Arizona plus Wisconsin or Arizona plus Michigan, or you could do it with Nevada plus Michigan, right? | ||
But there are plenty of different pathways that Donald Trump has To the 270 electoral votes. | ||
Arizona looks like it is going to go for Trump, right? | ||
So based off of what we're seeing in the early vote data, the guys like Charlie Kirk and Turning Point Action have done what they said they were going to do. | ||
They went out and they turned out these low propensity voters. | ||
That's what the data shows at this point. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
Yeah, just hang on for one second. | ||
We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
Matt Bowles with us. | ||
Walking through various scenarios, we're going to talk about she has been limited from many paths. | ||
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Now, basically through the blue wall, but we're going to talk a little bit about North Carolina. | |
Short commercial break. | ||
National political editor at Breitbart, Matt Boyle, joins us. | ||
Major peace out today. | ||
We're pushing out everywhere. | ||
Back in the war room. | ||
just a moment here's your host Stephen K. Mann okay Matt Boyle I want to thank Real America's Voices. | ||
This is extra bonus coverage for On Mass Mobilization Weekend, folks have been out canvassing all day throughout the country. | ||
We're going to check in with some of those folks. | ||
I want Matt to come on. | ||
Matt, North Carolina, you know, a lot of talk, and I've kind of been saying, hey, if you look at these numbers, they didn't build a firewall anywhere, particularly in Pennsylvania, but there are no firewalls. | ||
And so if you look at North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, it really, she's got to be focused on holding the blue wall or she's done, and that's where she's spending her time. | ||
Now, a lot of operatives, Democratic operators sitting there going, oh, they just have to have an above average game day turnout on Tuesday and they can win North Carolina. | ||
It seems to me, and you're dialed into a lot of the Democrats behind the scenes, it seems to me that no one in the Democratic Party wants to address the elephant in the room. | ||
And that is, they are in free fall. | ||
With black men as far as coming out to vote for them. | ||
In Pennsylvania, it's shocking. | ||
In Philadelphia, it's shocking. | ||
In North Carolina, it's shocking. | ||
And guess what? | ||
Kamala Harris understands that. | ||
That's why, Matt, on the day before election, she's going back to Philadelphia where if you've got to go back to someplace that should be your base, you've got a big problem. | ||
Your thoughts, sir? | ||
Yeah, well, it's similar to Hillary, right? | ||
Like, remember Hillary at the very end of the 2016 campaign? | ||
And so the panic setting in, you know who gets it is Barack Obama. | ||
That's why weeks ago he was out there lecturing black men, right? | ||
Like, telling them they had to go out and vote for her and that they were racist and sexist if they didn't, right? | ||
Like, and so the fact is, is that we're seeing it's not just in Philadelphia, right? | ||
The phenomenon you described The data bears it out that it's playing out in Milwaukee, it's playing out in Charlotte, it's playing out in Atlanta, right? | ||
And this may be a big story. | ||
And frankly, one of the things I cite in this story is, again, JMC Analytics, John Cuviani, he's one of the better data guys in the country, tends to be a Republican pollster, but he's based in New Orleans. | ||
He says it's happening there too. | ||
Now, let me be Frank here, Donald Trump is going to win the state of Louisiana. | ||
That's not even close to in question here. | ||
But what you can glean from states like Louisiana with their early vote numbers is some of the national trends, right? | ||
So when you see a massive drop in black vote in Louisiana, that's a major problem for the Democrats nationally because it's a trend that's happening across the country, coast to coast. | ||
Now, I'm not spiking the football in the back of the end zone yet, okay? | ||
Like, we're not doing the Lambeau leap here, right? | ||
Like, it's time to, like, we need to actually see this actually through and see it play out. | ||
Believe me, I have seen this movie a million times before where everybody's saying the Black vote's not coming, the Black vote's not coming, and then the Black vote comes on Election Day, right? | ||
A perfect example reminds me a lot of his Alabama Senate race in 2017, the special election there, right? | ||
Like, that's what everybody thought. | ||
But the difference between then and now is that then we were basing this on polls. | ||
And yes, we've seen polling data throughout the course of this year where everybody has been warning about this. | ||
In fact, one of the things I cite in that big story is Harry Anton from CNN, another one of these data guys who knows what he's talking about, who said that all the warning signs have been there all along if Donald Trump ends up winning this thing. | ||
Now, he also did a similar segment saying the warning signs would be there All along if Kamala wins this thing. | ||
And again, I'm not calling the election right now and I'm not making a prediction. | ||
But what I am saying is that the fundamentals are there for Trump if this demographic shift seems to hold. | ||
And it looks like it is based off of the early stuff that we're seeing. | ||
Now, they still have until Tuesday night when the polls close to be able to deliver these votes. | ||
So, you know, we'll see if they can get it done. | ||
Maybe they can, right? | ||
Like, you know, we'll see if the Harry Reid machine kicks into gear in Nevada. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Okay, they had banked in 2020, by this date, 1.1 million mail-in votes. | ||
Okay? | ||
Now they've got 400,000. | ||
They have a 700,000 vote vote. | ||
Given your analysis of how they've done on game day, they're running around now. | ||
Social media is being flooded, as you know, sir, in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania about how amazing her ground game is, how amazing her canvassers are, how Elon Musk got ripped off, how people are not really on top of it. | ||
The Trump ground game operation, since they farmed it out to the outside groups and to people like the War Room Posse, people like this, it's not controlled by the campaign. | ||
It's very dysfunctional. | ||
It's good in some places, non-existent in others, where she's going to knock on a million doors today, etc. | ||
Do you buy that? | ||
Do you buy that they can represent, given that they haven't been as tough on election days as they are earlier? | ||
Because they're the first group to really look at this as election month, sir? | ||
Well, it's as if expecting a rookie quarterback is going to come into the football game and put up a Tom Brady performance, right? | ||
Like, and lead a game-winning drive or something like that. | ||
I just watched my New England Patriots game. | ||
You know, almost get there, right? | ||
They got the tying touchdown. | ||
They didn't win the game, but, you know, the kids got a lot to learn. | ||
In the case of Kamala Harris, she is not Barack Obama, okay? | ||
Like, it is abundantly clear that she does not have the influence and the sway over their base and their folks are not as fired up as that. | ||
Now, again, never discount the ability of Democrats to actually turn it around and possibly pull it off, right? | ||
So that's the word of caution here. | ||
But there is a lot to be optimistic about headed into Tuesday. | ||
So I do think that it is unlikely that the Democrats all of a sudden, for the first time ever, develop the best ever Election Day turnout operation that we've never seen before out of them, at least in the modern era. | ||
And I do think that on the Republican side, we are going to see very strong numbers. | ||
I think it's safe to say that Donald Trump is going to I do perform at or possibly even above his 2020 performance in many respects in that I think that Kamala Harris is going to have a real trouble putting up Joe Biden numbers, right? | ||
Like, and so we'll see. | ||
But as for all of these different groups, it's a new novel way of doing things. | ||
So it's hard to judge at this point. | ||
I tend to, you know, cast a lot of doubt on these establishment media reports. | ||
Ripping Elon Musk's groups and Charlie Kirk's group and all the other ones. | ||
We'll see. | ||
We'll see how it goes. | ||
We'll know on Tuesday night if it worked or not. | ||
But all indications are, and I'm talking to a lot of people with all of these different groups on the right, and everything I'm hearing back is that what they have done has worked. | ||
So we'll see. | ||
What are you going to look for in the next 24 hours? | ||
What are the things that Matt Boyle's looking for tonight and tomorrow up to the eve of game day? | ||
Yeah, so John Ralston in Nevada from the Nevada Independent is supposed to make a prediction this evening or tomorrow about what he thinks is going to happen in Nevada if he predicts that Donald Trump will win Nevada based off the numbers because what we've seen is The in-person vote ended in Nevada and Kamala Harris or the Democrats kind of caught up a little bit. | ||
It's not technically by the candidates, it's by the party. | ||
But the Democrats kind of caught up a little bit in the first little batch of mail afterwards. | ||
But the Republican lead there in Nevada is very strong. | ||
So if his prediction starts, you know, comes down with a Trump prediction or a Trump likely prediction or something like that, that I think would be a bad sign for Kamala Harris. | ||
Now, Nevada doesn't really fit into too many You know, tight paths to 270. | ||
But it is the furthest left of the battleground states, at least traditionally. | ||
It's the one battleground state that Trump has never won, right? | ||
Like, Trump did not win Nevada in 2016 or 2020. | ||
And he has won each of these other states at least once, right? | ||
Like, and he's been on the ballot twice. | ||
This is his third time on the ballot as a presidential candidate. | ||
So I will be very much watching Nevada for that reason. | ||
I'm also keeping close eyes on Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, obviously any sign that we can get out of those places about where things are going to go. | ||
But the early vote's over in North Carolina, and we have a pretty clear picture there. | ||
Things are looking dire for the Democrats there. | ||
In Georgia, it's looking pretty bad for them. | ||
Arizona's looking pretty bad for them. | ||
So we'll see if Nevada can join the rest of the Sunbelt states in kind of Moving out of reach for Kamala Harris. | ||
They finished the vote, but don't they have a big drop that will come tomorrow morning? | ||
Aren't they holding back or it takes a while to go through it? | ||
I thought I understood that there'd be a drop either late tonight or early tomorrow morning. | ||
You're saying that the drop is already done, and we now know those numbers that were up 40 minutes. | ||
Yeah, and the other states are done, right? | ||
So North Carolina's done. | ||
Nevada, they still have little bits of mail, but the problem is that the Democrats aren't catching up enough in these mail things in terms of cutting into the Republican lead. | ||
So the question is, what's that Republican lead look like going into Election Day? | ||
If it's north of 30,000, right now it's north of 40,000, it's like 42,000. | ||
But if it's north of 30,000 going into Election Day, it's real bad for the Democrats. | ||
Kamala Harris will probably have to win Independence by double digits or close to it in that scenario, and that seems unlikely, right? | ||
So I can't see independence breaking double digits either way for either candidate. | ||
And a similar situation in North Carolina, by the way. | ||
Yeah, she would need to win North Carolina. | ||
Real quickly, Wisconsin, because I think on the blue wall, Wisconsin may be the one that comes our way over Pennsylvania. | ||
Your thoughts on Wisconsin? | ||
Yeah, the data in Wisconsin show that it's a lot easier to make up the difference from the 2020 margin with low propensity voters. | ||
The guys at Turning Point zoned in on this very early this year. | ||
And I know they have a ballot chasing operation and full-time staffers on the ground in Wisconsin. | ||
It's tough to tell with Wisconsin because you don't have the partisan data coming out with regard to... | ||
The early vote numbers, but what we are seeing are anecdotal data from rural areas that are Trump-heavy that look strong, and the cities are looking low. | ||
In fact, that trend that we were talking about with the black vote, Milwaukee City, seems very low in terms of the turnout in the early votes. | ||
So a lot of good signs out of Wisconsin for Trump. | ||
Boyle, social media, Breitbart, where do they go? | ||
Yeah, just mboyle1 on Twitter or X, and so true social, at RealMattBoyle, and just go to breitbart.com. | ||
Our team's going to be working around the clock. | ||
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It's a big analytical piece, guys. | |
Get a cup of coffee, curl up with it, and drill down. | ||
It's a Matt Boyle special. | ||
Matt, thank you. | ||
Honored to have you on here. | ||
Talk to you tomorrow, sir. | ||
Short commercial break. | ||
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We're going to talk to a federal, we're going to talk to an FEC professional. | |
I think commercial about this. | ||
The FCC. Oh, FCC. Next, about Saturday Night Live. | ||
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Gosh, I wish I could talk to someone who's been in my shoes, you know? | |
a black South Asian woman running for president, preferably from the Bay Area. | ||
Thank you. | ||
You and me both, sister. | ||
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It is nice to see you, Kamala. | |
It is nice to see you, Kamala. | ||
And I'm just here to remind you, you got this. | ||
Because you can do something your opponent cannot do. | ||
you can open doors. | ||
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I see what you did there. | |
Like to a garbage truck, right? | ||
I don't really laugh like that, do I? A little bit. | ||
Now, Kamala, take my Pamala. | ||
The American people want to stop the chaos and end the Dramala with a cool new Step-Mamala. | ||
Kick back in our pajamas and watch a Ram Kamala. | ||
Like Legally Blondila. | ||
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And start decorating for Christmas. | |
Fa-la-la-la-la. | ||
Because what do we always say? | ||
Keep Kamala and Carrie Anala. | ||
We know each other so well, we even finish each other's belief in the promise of America. | ||
Now come on. | ||
Let's bring it in. | ||
I gotta tell myself something over here. | ||
Come here. | ||
I'm gonna try you something. | ||
I'm gonna vote for us. | ||
Great. | ||
Any chance you are registered in Pennsylvania? | ||
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Nope, I am not. | |
Well, it was worth a shot. | ||
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And live from New York itself! | |
Okay, welcome back to the War Room. | ||
Let's leave the cringe element of that aside for a second. | ||
The lack of humor and also the lack of gravitas. | ||
I want to bring in Nathan Simington now. | ||
He's a commissioner with the Federal Communications Commission. | ||
Nathan, walk me through what I just saw. | ||
Because Lauren Roberts came out, I think, a couple of months ago and said he was not going to have either candidate on because to have one, he had to have the other. | ||
He just wasn't going to do that. | ||
What did we see last night? | ||
Was that legal? | ||
You know, this is an area that's been explored sort of recently. | ||
As you say, Lauren Michaels said that you shouldn't bring the people who are running on Because of election laws and equal time provisions, because after all, if you have the main candidates, equal time says you have to have all the candidates. | ||
There are lots of minor candidates. | ||
I think he gave the example of three states. | ||
It becomes complicated quickly. | ||
So NBC, I think, clearly recognized there was a potential problem. | ||
And the last time that this was an issue was in 2015, when NBC did in fact provide airtime to Republican primary candidates after an SNL episode hosted by then candidate, now President Trump. | ||
NBC recognized that this was a legitimate request and granted airtime to those candidates on broadcast affiliates in swing states. | ||
So I guess I would say that the doctrine is pretty straightforward. | ||
If you read the Communications Act, it's in section 315. | ||
It says that broadcasters have to provide equal time, and that means in terms of minutes of access to their broadcast signal, to legally qualified candidates for public office on their airwaves. | ||
I think I think President Trump is pretty much the classic case of a legally qualified candidate for public office. | ||
The only exception to this is what's called a bona fide news exception, and I don't think SNL has such an exception. | ||
So I think when Commissioner Karsh started identifying the legal issue here, he was in the right to identify it and bring it forward. | ||
So there's only, what, 24, 48 hours before Election Day. | ||
What can be done? | ||
Are you saying that, given your interpretation of the way equal time is, that Donald Trump ought to get on NBC affiliates equal time? | ||
I think that was two minutes, two and a half minutes. | ||
Are you saying that that's what should happen and happen tomorrow because the Election Day is Tuesday? | ||
No. | ||
I mean, that would certainly be one way for NBC to ensure that there wasn't any potential issue. | ||
On the other hand, is the FCC going to make an order that they do that within the next 30 hours or so? | ||
I just don't see that happening. | ||
I just don't see a road to the Commission—well, first of all, to the current Commission leadership making the decision to make that request of NBC. And then NBC would have to do it and then President Trump would have to agree to it and shoot the spot and et cetera, et cetera. | ||
It doesn't seem like in a practical sense that's what's likely to happen. | ||
So I'm not sure where this leaves us. | ||
I'm frankly not sure why we're in a position to have to be – having to be asking this question at this point. | ||
Well, it is because they want – they're desperate. | ||
They got to get – they had to get her out – But it'd be seen by many people as possible. | ||
That's where they took the risk. | ||
There's nothing, there's no emergency committee meeting that the FCC can have and issue some edict. | ||
President Trump doesn't have to cut a spot. | ||
They could just go to the broadcast affiliates. | ||
They just go to the broadcast affiliates and put him on. | ||
Could they not? | ||
I mean, if it's equal time, I think my producer, I think this was a two minute cold open For Saturday Night Live. | ||
It was so short. | ||
And I heard that Kamala Harris had to go and show up all day to practice for that, which looked pretty simple. | ||
But it's two minutes. | ||
Couldn't you just get to broadcast their own and operated stations, which are the biggest stations in the biggest markets in the country, just have Trump on Skype or have Trump in a studio and let him do a two-minute riff? | ||
I mean, after all, we saw on the Rogan show that doing a two-minute riff would not be a huge challenge for President Trump. | ||
So, I agree with your analysis about how easy it would be to remedy this in the closing hours of the campaign. | ||
I want to point out that Commissioner Carr conjectured in his statement on this that the SNL appearance was designed to deprive the Trump campaign of the opportunity to make a legitimate request for equal time. | ||
Now, I'm not sure what the campaign is doing internally. | ||
But it would certainly send a signal if they were to make such a request and such request were not to be granted. | ||
As you point out, it would be something that President Trump is demonstrably able to fulfill. | ||
Now, one of my advisors commented that the appearance on SNL by the Democratic candidate was so wooden and unfunny that maybe NBC should actually deduct time from the Trump campaign somehow. | ||
I found that sort of amusing. | ||
But if, you know, setting that to one side, I guess the point is that if the Trump campaign doesn't have time to get this done for whatever reason, that's hardly their fault. | ||
And it's hardly their fault that they've been put in a position to have to deal with this at the last moment when President Trump's schedule has no doubt been booked down to the second for months in advance. | ||
I guess what I would say is it just seems like an unforced error on the parts of people who should be aware that there are equal time requirements. | ||
Hang on. | ||
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Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. | |
Yo, yo, bro. | ||
It's not an unforced error. | ||
Right now, nothing's going to happen. | ||
That's their advantage. | ||
The unforced error is on the FCC. Right. | ||
I'm not pointing fingers at you guys, but they thought this through. | ||
They knew later on a Saturday night, you'd have a Sunday with Trump running around, you guys out, you know, not in the office, and then Monday, and then it's done. | ||
So it's not an unforced error. | ||
It's very well thought through, and it's kind of in your grill. | ||
My question is, the law is the law. | ||
Are you going to let NBC game the system, or is the FCC going to sit there and go, no, hey, you're going to give them two minutes and then throw it back to the Trump campaign? | ||
If the Trump campaign doesn't use the two minutes, that's on the Trump campaign. | ||
You're not responsible for what they do, but the FCC is definitely responsible for not letting the demons at NBC and Lorne Michaels and these guys perfectly game the system. | ||
So if they're not held accountable – so go ahead. | ||
No, you make a great point there. | ||
The requirement is that equal time be provided and it's – there's no proviso in there that if logistics don't make it possible. | ||
No, you make, I think, a really good point that this is in fact a challenge to the FCC to see whether we're serious about broadcast regulation issues that were thought to be non-controversial including by NBC and SNL leadership until – Five minutes ago or whenever this clip initially aired. | ||
As far as what the FCC can do in practical terms, our governance doesn't give me a way to unilaterally act on this, unfortunately. | ||
The chair could initiate action and the chair could call up staff and request that action be initiated. | ||
As far as I'm aware, that's not happening. | ||
And there's no way for me or for the Republican minority on the commission to force a vote on this, unfortunately. | ||
We can protest strongly for all the good it'll do, but there's no way we can force a vote. | ||
There's no mechanism that we can use to compel the staff to act on this. | ||
So because the Commission is controlled by Democrats, and that's traditional, when Republicans are controlled by Republicans, they can game the system, essentially break the law, and just get away with it? | ||
So it's just the rule of, these are the guys that believe in democracy so much, they believe in the rule of law. | ||
We get lectured about that every day. | ||
We just have to suck on it? | ||
Is that essentially your point? | ||
Well, put it this way. | ||
If we were to see an in-kind contribution or free airtime in some way provided to humanize and make President Trump relatable on, for example, a Fox broadcast, I have a hard time believing that it would be politically acceptable for Democratic Commission leadership to let that pass without comment. | ||
And so you're asking, now that the shoe's on the other foot, are we We're left without a remedy. | ||
And I would say that we probably are left without a remedy before Election Day unless the Commission Chair decides to act on this. | ||
Obviously, you know, I've got a point of view on this. | ||
Commissioner Carr's got a point of view on this. | ||
I would say that it's just enough in the cracks and crevices as far as whether or not this constitutes a violation of the equal time rule that it's possible for the chair to punt and to say, well, maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. | ||
Let's convene a Let's convene a group to consider the issue. | ||
Other than that, I don't know what the remedy is on this short notice. | ||
Now, as for post-facto remedies, such as a lawsuit or other process, obviously those still remain on the table. | ||
However, I think your point is that the election may obviate the opportunity to reach those remedies. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Nathan, how do people track you down on social media? | ||
How do they follow you? | ||
Well, I'm at SymingtonFCC on X, formerly known as Twitter. | ||
That's the main way. | ||
I'm not typically all that active on social media. | ||
I'm a more behind-the-scenes technical type. | ||
But lately, with media regulation, I've had to get a little bit more active. | ||
Apart from that, I really do answer my email and my staff answer their emails as well. | ||
We're public servants and we take this seriously. | ||
Just last week we had in someone, for example, who had sent us a cold email about being kicked out of the RDOF Rural Broadband Program. | ||
So your audience should absolutely feel free to reach out to their public servants. | ||
If they want information about how the complaint mechanism works at the Commission, that's obviously something that we'd be happy to provide. | ||
Nathan, thank you so much for coming on and talking to us on a Sunday evening. | ||
Appreciate you. | ||
It's my pleasure, Steve. | ||
Good to have you back. | ||
You know, you don't need to talk about the bias of Saturday Night Live. | ||
It's been very obvious for decades and decades and decades. | ||
It's just the blatant Lauren Roberts saying, I'm not going to do this. | ||
And then at the last second, they slip it in. | ||
Here's the good news. | ||
It was so cringe. | ||
I actually think it hurt her even with that crowd. | ||
She's so talentless. | ||
It just jumps off the screen. | ||
Okay, short commercial break. | ||
Somebody who's not talentless is Sister Chatta out in Nevada. | ||
And we got great news out there, but I gotta tell ya, is it a wave of the Culinary Institute, the Culinary Union votes gonna come in? | ||
We're gonna talk to her. | ||
What's happening to them? | ||
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Wait, where is my chief strategist, Steve Bannon? | |
I can't start without Steve Bannon. | ||
He's walking in right now. | ||
Sorry, I'm late. | ||
That's okay, Steve. | ||
You look great. | ||
And live from New York, it's Shamanita! | ||
Now that's humor. | ||
That's a cold open right there. | ||
Yours truly is the Grim Reaper. | ||
Back when Saturday Night Live had some humor. | ||
Sister Chatta joins us from Nevada. | ||
You guys have absolutely crushed it. | ||
Here's my fear. | ||
Walk people through the math of this early voting, man, all of it, where we stand, but the culinary union has not totally represented yet. | ||
Aren't we still anticipating some more surprise drops overnight? | ||
I know Ralston's out there. | ||
Who used to be at the paper out there. | ||
I think he has his own deal now. | ||
He's kind of the guru for Nevada. | ||
He's going to give his thoughts tonight. | ||
Who's going to win? | ||
But on the raw numbers themselves, Seagal, have we seen the last of the drops? | ||
Not for today. | ||
And, you know, Ralston is definitely a very liberal news guy. | ||
So I don't know that I necessarily believe his numbers. | ||
But there is a level of certainty that we have not seen the best of culinary and the Democrats. | ||
You know, there's a woman here named Rebecca Lamb, and she literally is the godmother of the Democrat Party. | ||
She was Harry Reid's right hand, and she is the one that has kept that Harry Reid machine So, probably one of the smartest political operatives in the nation. | ||
She's very behind the scenes, but for those of us who know, Welcome to my show! | ||
So hopefully, you know, they plan on eating edibles all weekend and not rolling out of bed to vote Monday and Tuesday. | ||
That's my prayer. | ||
So tell the audience, what do you mean cannibalizing UNLV? What is the status of your belief that we got more low-propensity voters and are not cannibalizing Tuesday, whereas the Democrats may have been, particularly at University of Nevada, Las Vegas, just cannibalizing people that are going to vote on Tuesday anyway? | ||
Yeah, so basically what you've seen the Republicans do, and this is again, you know, it's the orchestration of organizations like Turning Point and American Majority and obviously Trump Force 47. | ||
What they've been spending the past year is registering people that had not voted. | ||
Remember, in 2022 we had 140,000 Republicans that did not vote. | ||
Those voters, we've resurrected them. | ||
And those are the voters, you know, the zero and one out of four. | ||
Those are the ones that we got out to vote during early voting. | ||
We're still pushing those guys because there's still a large group that sat at home. | ||
You know, so those are the guys that all these organizations... | ||
We're trying to resurrect. | ||
Now, culinary, they have been out cannibalizing UNLV. UNLV is a university with 45,000 students. | ||
That's no laughing number. | ||
And it's something that we absolutely have to take as something very serious. | ||
Look, 45,000 votes in Clark County can make or break the election, period, end of story. | ||
And everybody will agree with that. | ||
Right now, we are at 42,000 statewide. | ||
We watched a little bit of our lead get eaten up by mail-in ballots that were dropped. | ||
We are anticipating a massive, massive mail drop. | ||
Monday and Tuesday, we will have those numbers. | ||
And what we got to remember is that even if the Dems beat us in the mail drop, we could still make it up with in-person voting on Election Day, and across the 17 counties, especially in the rurals. | ||
Our rural turnouts are fantastic. | ||
Our Clark turnout's fantastic. | ||
But we have to push. | ||
We never stop pushing, and we always run like we're 10 points behind. | ||
Okay, but this is the point I want to get to. | ||
Traditionally, they build up a kind of a mini firewall on the mail-in in the early voting. | ||
And we always do better on Election Day. | ||
Right now, when you say massive mail drop tomorrow, this is what I keep talking about. | ||
What do you anticipate is that we're up 40,000? | ||
Do you think we'll be up 25,000? | ||
What are they going to cut into with this massive mail drop? | ||
And are we going to go into, if we go into Election Day, and correct me if I'm wrong, with 25,000 votes up, how can we possibly lose? | ||
Oh, we win. | ||
We win. | ||
But don't forget, Steve, here's the thing that we have to remember. | ||
In Nevada, we don't stop counting ballots until ballots received Friday, which means we will go into the following Monday and still have ballots that need to be counted, okay? | ||
So it's not like we stop counting ballots Tuesday night or even Wednesday morning. | ||
Because under the legislature, we have three days after election day, which ballots can still come in. | ||
And even if they're not postmarked, remember, the presumption is that they were cast on Tuesday. | ||
So what I anticipate is that you will even have people Wednesday morning dropping off ballots. | ||
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Okay. | |
God. | ||
Unbelievable. | ||
Just hang on for a second. | ||
This is Nevada. | ||
It's one that we should have won in 16. | ||
We should have won in 20. | ||
We're going to win in 24, and we're going to tell you exactly how we're going to do it. | ||
Seagal Chata from Nevada. | ||
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We're also going to get Caroline Wren with Carrie Lake. | |
Out in Arizona, big news out of there. | ||
We're going around the country to see exactly where we stand finishing the weekend. | ||
We're now heading into, what, 36 hours until the game gets underway on Tuesday morning? | ||
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