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Oct. 24, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4000: Removing Illegals From The Voter Rolls; MAGA Takes Wisconsin
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people.
brian schimming ▲ ● ▼
The people have had a belly full of it.
unidentified
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
You would think he would be careful about trying to demonize and target people, public figures, that you may disagree with.
Because when people hear that rhetoric, some people can say, he's right, they're the enemy, and they may do anything.
So not only do you have to fear government, you have to fear people that will take things into their own hands, including the people that tried to assassinate him.
It raises the likelihood of a dangerous environment, and we should not belittle that in any way on either side of these political debates.
brian schimming ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, he's not looking to take down the temperature.
He's ramping it up.
unidentified
Donald Trump at the lead.
You've quoted General Milley calling Donald Trump a fascist.
brian schimming ▲ ● ▼
You yourself have not used that word to describe him.
unidentified
Let me ask you tonight, do you think Donald Trump is a fascist?
Yes, I do.
Yes, I do.
If these guys win, your life is gonna be engulfed, whether you like it or not, by politics.
It's gonna be engulfed by chaos and violence.
Your dreams of starting things, doing things, getting rich, making a life for you and your family, they will be engulfed in the flames of Trump and Musk.
There's a weird irony.
There's two pieces to it.
You almost have to act like you're behind, but play like you're winning.
Democrats need to be like, we are pro-democracy.
We are going to win.
Carville wrote a great piece.
He said, we're going to win.
And I think that there's got to be a little of this...
You know, as Tug McGraw said for the Mets, you've got to believe.
I mean, you've got to believe.
And you just, you have to believe in goodness.
And you have to believe that the good guys win.
You know, if the good guys don't win, and guys like Trump win, guys like Trump, a bad guy, a bad human being, an indecent soul on every level, by every measure of the people closest to him, guys like that don't win in this country.
And you've got to believe that.
And I believe it.
I believe it in my heart.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Alright, good morning.
Welcome to the War Room.
Next week, Tuesday, Steve Bannon will be back.
Our thoughts and prayers continue for him, with him.
We open this show out of respect for Steve in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Men, make sure you are spreading this platform to everyone you know before next Tuesday.
We want the numbers to go through the roof.
You are the base of this country.
You just heard what they are saying about you.
The Reverend Sharpton is saying this language is toxic on both sides and it creates a dangerous environment.
And then you have the Democrat presidential candidate calling the other candidate a fascist.
If we had a press, I would love to hear them ask her, could you please define what a fascist is?
And I would love to hear her answer.
And man, it'd be like, probably like, you know, I'm in the middle class or something.
I want to help the middle class or what is a fascist?
I don't know.
I mean, it has become language games.
All political views are my own.
President Trump was the president for four years.
And there was nothing.
Instead, what we have is Steve Bannon in jail underneath the current administration's Justice Department, and Peter Navarro in jail and out of jail, and President Trump with lawfare after lawfare after lawfare.
All of it has proven unfruitful, right?
But it has tied it down.
They are doing political brinksmanship that the country has never seen before.
The other day in an auditorium, a couple of Christian folks I said, Jesus is Lord.
And the presidential candidate on the left said, you're in the wrong hall.
That has never been uttered by a president of the United States.
Straight out, Christians do not belong in the room.
It's 100 million people you're talking about.
150 million people.
People you're talking about.
Citizens of our country.
And the left is bringing up the words.
Just a quick review.
I didn't intend to spend any time on this.
We also had a cold open with CNN showing they still have a path to the White House.
If they can pull off Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, etc., they own the White House.
And so everybody needs to stay at it.
And then Mark Halperin, we might get into that later in the day, too, has a story.
Oh, there could be a bomb.
And, you know, the October surprise, there's a huge story out there that could end this whole race if it's true, if it's true, right?
And so he does at least acknowledge the bar is high now for Trump.
For him, maybe, right?
Tucker interviewed him, and he had some interesting comments.
But the language games are very scary.
Fascism, just so you know, is the combination of the state along with the corporatists.
All the corporatists right now, the Magnificent Seven, are all on the left.
The Fortune 500 is all scared.
The CEOs are scared stiff.
Most of them are on the left.
Harris said, I have the Fortune 100.
So the fascist piece requires a big state.
Us Madisonian constitutional types, we want the separation of powers and a small federal government, and we have lost.
Unfortunately, the Republicans, we have lost this game.
We have a $7 trillion budget now.
Our government sector is bigger than China.
In percentage terms, right?
We're 18% of GDP. China is only a communist totalitarian surveillance state.
Their government sector is only 14%.
Imagine what we can do with our 18% of GDP government.
And so all that is just a response to that opening.
It is stunning.
We Madisonians are losing.
There's a great book out by Glennon, Mike Glennon, on double government.
You ought to go read that, right?
The three-letter agencies are running our world.
Us Madisonians have been left in the dust.
All power is now in the executive, and the executive is being run by globalist elitist powers.
I don't know where President Biden has been lately.
And what he is running.
Okay, all that to set up the show.
We are going around the horn today.
We got some great guests with us, great grassroots leaders.
We're starting off with Josh McCune, the chair of the Georgia Republican Party.
And you've heard the news.
They have a majority down there in the committee now.
And so that's great news.
And so, Josh, bring us up to speed what you're hearing on early voting in Georgia.
And just go around the horn because the audience loves this stuff.
Thanks for being with us.
unidentified
No, thank you for having me.
We're experiencing record early voting.
And when I say record early voting, I mean in Republican areas.
We've spent the last year trying to share this message of how important it is for Republicans to get out early and vote.
Georgia's got 7.2 million active voters.
As of yesterday, 2.1 million.
About a third of all Georgia active voters have voted in this election.
And what we are seeing is historic levels of turnout in Republican congressional districts and particularly rural Georgia.
Our rural Georgia counties are turning out in very large numbers.
Towns County, a small county that voted 80% for Donald Trump in 2020, over half of all registered voters have voted.
We're seeing that all over the state.
On the other side of the coin, Democrats in Georgia, in order to win, really need to get 30% or more of the total vote to be from black voters.
What we are seeing is black voter enthusiasm is down.
Yesterday, only 20% of those voting, about 200,000 voted yesterday, were black voters.
Overall, the black vote share right now is 26%, which is very low.
So you put those two things together.
High rural turnout, high turnout from ex-urban communities that are heavily Republican, flat turnout or lower turnout than expected from the urban centers of the state.
Right now, things are trending towards a Trump victory.
We've just got to continue to get our people out and vote.
We've got more to do between now and November 1st when early voting closes.
And then, of course, we also have some work to do on Election Day.
But we're very excited about where we are.
We think things look really good today.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, that's very interesting, and it goes a bit against the narrative that we've been reading when it comes to black, brown, Hispanic, blue-collar voters moving toward Trump.
In significant percentages.
So the story you're telling us is that black and maybe Hispanic voters, they're just not coming out and voting for Harris on the Democrat side.
And Stephen Bannon has said that his view, and he stated in Georgia and Pennsylvania and some of the key states, black and Hispanic men are turning on the issue of mass incarcerations from Harris.
And on Harris' refusal to mass deport illegal aliens taking jobs away from American citizens.
What's your read on what's going on down there?
unidentified
I think it's two things.
I think we're going to see Donald Trump score a historic margin among black voters here in Georgia.
With only 25-26% of the vote share, you're still talking about half a million black voters have turned out already and voted in Georgia.
I do think I've never seen the level of enthusiasm I mean, I talk to a lot of people about this every day.
And he is scoring points.
Yes, criminal justice reform.
But I'm going to tell you, immigration is a huge part of this.
And the idea that wages are being depressed because of this black market labor that's flooded into the country.
Economic situation hasn't gotten any better.
You talk to black men and they say, you know, why am I at the back of the line?
Why are illegal aliens being put in front of me?
So those are issues that I think are also driving particularly younger black men towards President Trump.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, and when you say black men, Hispanic men being put at the back of the line, is that the hiring line or the benefits they see, the illegals getting, the phones, the hotels, the food cards?
Is it just they don't feel valued by their party?
The party always promises them the sky, and then they don't deliver?
I personally am also very concerned about the poor people Poor kids in the cities and the illiteracy rates are just through the roof.
So what issues are resonating there?
Because that really does matter.
unidentified
I had a conversation with a middle-aged black mother of two high school-aged children.
And this is what she said to me.
She said, Josh, I don't understand.
Why are disabled veterans are being treated so poorly and illegal aliens are being put up in hotels and apartment complexes and we're spending all this money?
You know, we had this terrible hurricane come through Georgia.
Same conversation with quite a few black men.
Why are we getting $750 from FEMA when our homes have been destroyed and our lives have been totally upended?
We're American citizens.
Nobody's putting us up in a house.
Nobody's putting us up in a hotel while we figure all of this out.
So I think it's a combination of seeing illegal aliens put to the front of the line in the sense that we're paying taxes and it's being used to put these folks in front of us in all these different ways, whether it's benefits, whether it's job opportunities.
I think it's across the board.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
Yeah, we got about a minute to go.
But I'm also very interested, you know, this populist realignment, right?
The old Republican Party is kind of decaying of the rich Republican folks.
All the rich, as I just got done saying in the cold open...
Are on the left now.
All the corporate magnets are all on the left.
And we're synthesizing and have a growing black, brown, Hispanic, blue-collar majority of middle-class voters and workers and Christians.
And so, you know, the black family has always been the home of the strong faith, right?
The black moms and dads and the churches are just part of Americana.
And do you see anything happening there with Harris, you know, just denigrating straight up?
Christians, you're in the wrong room.
Have you heard anything there?
Because this shocks me.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, people of faith, we've had a lot of faith events.
President Trump was here yesterday, had a big rally in Duluth, but earlier in the day was in Zebulun, Georgia, rural Georgia, with a Believers in Ballots event.
He's been doing several of those.
When you have a candidate like Kamala Harris, who has declared war on Catholics, war on people of faith more broadly in this country, yes, it's striking a chord.
As a Catholic myself and a member of the Knights of Columbus, What she has said about that organization is just absolutely despicable.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
It's unreal.
Back after the break, more with Josh.
Right back.
unidentified
Stay tuned.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Back in the war room, Dave Bratt sitting in with the great Stephen K. Bannon with We have Linda Sinkowitz in the war room again, a crowd favorite and no stranger.
She's going to cover the waterfront.
She's got a ton of issues.
Why don't you just start off, Linda, Maricopa voting and then just take us through it and I'll kind of interject when I get excited.
Fire away.
unidentified
Okay.
So Maricopa County has approximately 2.4 million voters.
About 400,000 have already voted.
And in order to request your absentee ballot, it ends at 5 p.m.
tomorrow.
So if you wanted to request your ballot, you need to do it by then.
And the return ballots all have to be in by 7 p.m.
on Election Day.
Now one of the things about this ballot, and I've heard it from a number of friends of mine, is that the ballot is huge.
It's, you know, one sheet, but apparently it's like this long.
The front half has all the contests with the federal and state people who are running for office.
The back has like 45 judges that they have to vote for.
And they have all kinds of questions.
So the average number of contests that are on a ballot are 79.
So, here's the issue.
You don't want to be standing in line on election day.
You actually want to go ahead of time because it is taking, from what I am hearing, about 15 minutes per person to vote.
That's a long time.
That is huge.
So, you need to go and vote early.
And make sure all your friends and neighbors are voting early.
So my call out to the posse is a couple houses either direction, cross the street, make sure they are voting.
Your church members, make sure they're voting.
It is your job.
Take this.
You want to get 10 people To go and vote.
Ten people you know, you want to make sure that they go and vote in Arizona.
It is critical that they get out and vote.
So it's crazy.
I can't even imagine.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Lead us through the Punchbowl news.
unidentified
Okay, so Punchbowl news.
The first question was, does your vote by mail make it easier to cheat?
59% of the people say yes, yes.
And 39% say it's very likely.
33% say not likely.
And 16%, it's no big deal.
So another one that is out there from Punchbowl happens to be about the media.
Whether the media is talking about or blaming or people are blaming the media for As inciting violence.
Because it's believed 79% of the people believe the media is responsible for creating all the negative stuff that's going on.
And honestly, I agree.
I absolutely agree with that number.
51% of likely voters believe that if Kamala, Kamala Kackler, I'm sorry, If she wins, that there's going to be violence.
And 26% say very likely.
And on the other side, 47% say it's likely if Trump wins, there's going to be violence.
And 23% say very likely.
When have we ever seen voting turn to violence?
This is just absolutely insane.
And it is the media that's pushing this.
The media, every time you turn around, is pushing it.
And I believe we used to have censors.
If you say something in an ad that's not accurate, it gets pulled, right?
I've seen ads recently that are 100% inaccurate, and they're playing over and over and over again.
I think that's probably one of the most infuriating things is seeing lies that are presented by one side or another that have been debunked, yet we still see them on a daily basis.
It's like, what is going on?
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Yep.
Linda, the one thing I forgot to ask about that doesn't get covered enough, the Senate Majority Leader, right, the Senate Majority Leader Fund, the Senate Leadership Fund, how much are they helping out in your state for your U.S. Senate candidates, House candidates?
Are your folks getting equal shares?
What's the buzz out there?
unidentified
We're in Connecticut.
Yeah.
Nobody cares about Connecticut.
The only one who might be getting some help is George Logan.
He might be getting some help because of some of the stuff that I've seen.
Other than that, I don't see anything as far as coming into Connecticut.
And we could make a difference.
I believe that there's a couple of them.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I saw reports this morning, you know, they're supporting their buddies and Cary Lake is not getting one dollar.
And it's almost as if they're willing to give in in the House.
Scott Perry in Pennsylvania, of all things, is not getting leadership support until like a week or two ago.
And the entire House of Representatives is at stake.
And so, you know, I just...
I wonder if the grassroots is talking about this, because for me, these parties are so out of touch with the base and the people.
It's hard to imagine.
Bring us up.
Yeah, go ahead, Linda.
unidentified
Well, I was going to say here in Connecticut, the GOP and the DNC could care less about what we're doing.
And we're going to be making some headlines in the next week or so that, you know, we need people to wake up.
Our elections need to be fair.
And we need to have qualified people running the elections.
And here in Connecticut, we have a number that are not.
And again, across the country, people that should not be running elections.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, well, speaking of that, hit El Cava.
What's the latest on the El Cava issues coming up all over the place?
unidentified
El Cava.
Okay, so with OCAVA, that is for the overseas ballots.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Define that.
Yeah, define that for everybody.
Right, right.
Start from scratch.
unidentified
Okay, so OCAVA would be the overseas ballots for military, their families, or other people who live outside of the United States.
About six weeks ago, the DNC sent out a memo that they wanted to register nine million Americans around the world.
Well, the problem is, is there's only 4.4 million and only 2.8 are qualified to vote.
So, huge problem there.
And then they are pushing through votes.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Say that again.
Just say that again.
Say that again.
Say that stat again.
The eight and the four.
Just go over that again.
unidentified
Okay.
Okay.
They're trying to get 9 million Americans registered around the world.
Overseas.
Overseas.
There's only 4.4.
And out of those, there's only 2.8 that are eligible.
But this is what they're doing, is through Vote Forward and some of their other nonprofits, they're pushing to have them sign up.
Even if they don't live in the United States, they are telling them, Pick a zip code.
You don't even have to live there.
They don't have to show ID. They don't have to show social security number.
They don't have to show driver's license.
Nothing.
There is no guarantee that you're getting someone who is registering that one is a citizen in your state, let alone a U.S. citizen.
So the RNC has challenged Minnesota Secretary of State Benson Because of his unlawful guidance of overseas ballots on non-residents.
And they've also challenged a North Carolina law allowing people overseas that have never resided in North Carolina to go and vote, which is against their constitution.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Linda, on that issue, is there a way after the fact to check these CAVA voters against the state voter rolls or to audit them?
You're saying, I mean, they can register and pick any state they want to.
So the last logic is going to be they're going to go to the swing states, so that's obvious.
And then, is there any way to audit, to make sure 8 million people didn't vote when there's only 3 million possible, and to go individually, down by these voters?
Is there a checkoff box where you know they're an OCAVA voter?
unidentified
Yes, there is one, and it is state by state, so you'd actually have to go through that particular thing.
But it's not just the OCAVA voters we have to worry about.
It's all the illegals that are actually registering and voting out there.
I had a whistleblower contact us from a university, contacted us.
University here in Connecticut is giving them stipends, is giving them fellowships, grants, and they're, quote, looking for a way to pay undocumented students without using a Social Security number or employment.
It's pretty telling on what's going on here.
So I'm actually sending out my certified letter today to the president of the university under FOIA saying, I want that list.
And I want everything concerning the illegals on our universities as well.
So, I mean, it's unbelievable what's going on.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
All right, Linda, back with Linda Sinkiewicz right after the break.
We're just starting to scratch the issues on the illegal aliens voting.
Back with more on that.
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unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Back in the War Room with the great Stephen K. Bannon and Linda Sinkowitz is in the house.
We've been covering all the issues on voter integrity.
The biggie where the left, all political views are my own, is just in the face of the American people has to do with illegal aliens voting.
It's against the federal law.
There's been suits put in place so that the states have to cooperate with the federal law.
Those have been blocked.
This whole process we covered yesterday can be simplified very easily.
Just get the machines with the paper ballot verification and compare that all with the state voter rolls.
And then you've got free and fair elections.
The staff doesn't want anything to do with free and fair elections, right?
So they just gaslight us.
And we just need to come back with that basic formulation.
The machines are supposed to make the elections safer.
You have a paper backup and you compare that with the voter rolls in the states and we're fine.
And they don't want any part of it.
And so they're pushing this illegal voter scheme as well.
Linda, what's the latest reporting on that issue?
unidentified
Okay, well, first of all, people should know that the Department of Justice, they're suing Alabama, they're suing Virginia for taking off the illegals from the voter rolls.
Well, HAVO, the Help America Vote Act and the NVRA, the National Voter Registration Act, basically says within 90 days of an election, you cannot be removing people or doing your maintenance.
It does not include people who are not eligible to vote.
Therefore, the illegals should be removed immediately.
And I just find it appalling.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Say that again.
That's a key piece of information for people across the country.
So in a lot of states, there might be language or law that says you're not supposed to do any cleaning of the voter rolls 90 days prior, but that does not apply to...
unidentified
Illegal immigrants.
Right, it does not apply to illegal immigrants.
It does not apply to anyone who is ineligible to vote.
That would be like having Donald Duck put on as a voter.
It should immediately be removed.
So there's cases that have come up with that.
So the fact that the Department of Justice is doing these lawsuits is absolutely ridiculous.
As far as anybody being able to find out who the illegals are, every Secretary of State has access through the federal government.
You can go on our website, fightvoterfraud.org, and look at the letter that was sent to the Nevada Secretary of State from the RNC, giving them direction on how they can find the illegals with the help of the US government.
So it is your Secretary of State that should have been looking into this.
And thank you to the thousands of people that have been sending the letters in over the last month and a half, letting them know there is a way for your Secretary of State to do their job.
But then the Department of Justice gets involved and says, no, you can't take them off, which is ridiculous.
So keep fighting.
Keep fighting.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Alright, Linda, great job as usual.
How do people contact you and what should they be contacting you for?
What information?
unidentified
Okay, so you can go to fightvoterfraud.org.
If you have any questions you want to help out, please go to our website.
We also have data that you might be interested in still.
We're giving it away free to everybody.
If you want to do the printouts for illegals or non-US citizens to tell them not to vote, we have a printout.
You can print it off our website.
Get it out, disseminate it everywhere.
And we also have a video, Don't Lose the American Dream.
So there's a number of different things people can do.
But basically, put it upon yourself, you need to get 10 people to go and vote.
Do that, and we will take back our country.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
No, that's right.
That is right.
Now's the time.
Spam your whole email list, all your texts, get everyone you know, get your kids working on it, get your church, get your pastor to preach on voting.
It's a command.
We're the sovereign in this country, right?
The people, we the people are the sovereign.
So it's just crucial that we play our role as the sovereign in this great country.
Thank you so much for being on again today.
We're going to pivot right over to John Laro in Virginia to take off right where Linda Sinkwich just left.
She was just mentioning the lawsuits in Virginia.
John, welcome to the War Room.
Why don't you bring us up to speed?
On the status of these lawsuits, they sound weak to me.
I've heard they're weak.
But this is how the left fights constantly, is just through lawfare and tying up resources and valuable time, etc.
And so just let us know the status in Virginia and then across the country, as you know.
Thanks, John.
unidentified
Yeah, and thank you, Linda.
You did a great job of setting this up.
Great.
So this all started at least for us in Virginia.
Earlier this year, our team did an analysis and we crunched the numbers.
We get data from the Department of Elections that says whether or not And how many removals have happened because somebody has self-declared as a non-citizen.
So we took that data and we correlated against voter history records and we published a blog post on it and we've been continuing to update that data.
That sparked quite a bit of controversy because we found that there were indeed non-citizens that were being removed from our voter rolls that had actually voted in the past.
Our current analysis, so as of October 1st, which is the latest data set that we've gotten, there were 3533, so 3,533 removals that hadn't been reinstated from the voter rolls because somebody had self-identified as a non-citizen.
Of those 3,533, there were 537 that were actually, they had a voting history in the past.
And that voting history, the 537 individuals that had a voting history, Accounts for about 1,296 ballots over the last period that we have for our data.
Our data reaches back to 2019 for the voter list data.
So there is evidence of actual...
Non-citizens who are registered, who have cast ballots, and the Department of Elections, to their credit, has, when these individuals have been identified through either a procedure with the Department of Motor Vehicles, or they have a jury duty questionnaire, or they have some other official interaction with the state, right?
They fill out a document or they fill out a form.
That they are self-identifying as a non-citizen.
That gets sent over to the Department of Elections.
The Department of Elections removes that person from the voter rolls and puts them into a temporary status.
They then send out a notification and a cancellation notice to that individual.
They have 14 days to respond to that.
Or they can go into their registrar's office and they can correct their record if it was a mistake for them to be identified.
And this is a longstanding program that was put in place in 2006 under Democratic Governor Tim Kaine.
And it was actually, I believe it was Ken Cuccinelli's bill when he was in the Senate in Virginia.
And that was pushed through the Virginia legislature.
Tim Kaine signed it.
It's been an ongoing system.
And what Linda had mentioned is correct.
In the NVRA, the governing law that has this quiet period...
Right.
The quiet period was never intended or was always intended to protect legitimate registrations from last minute changes right before an election.
That's what the quiet period is for.
It was never intended to protect otherwise illegitimate records that shouldn't be on the roll in the first place.
Right.
So there is an exemption in NVRA Section 8 that says any corrections right in which if you've got somebody if you've got Mickey Mouse on your on your registration list, Mickey Mouse should be removed.
That is a correction that needs to happen.
That's not something that's covered under the quiet period.
That's why you can remove, you know, when people die, right?
When there's all sorts of exemptions to the quiet period, and one of those exemptions is for corrections.
And so that's what this is, what the state has been doing with this program is they've been making the corrections.
Like, this person should never have been on the roll in the first place.
They self-identified.
They had a, you know, plenty of opportunity to correct that statement if it was a mistake.
They chose not to correct it, or they, you know, Didn't care and just let it lapse, right?
So they got removed from the voter roll.
So there's a process that has been a longstanding process that Virginia has been using.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Let me ask you on that process, because it sounds to me like some of these numbers, the 5,000 you're talking about, are due to your work.
And so why isn't this happening organically from the state mechanisms and data cleanups?
We got electronics now that can put us on Mars, and we can't detect illegal aliens.
So first of all, why isn't that happening?
And then secondly, how do you identify...
The folks who should not be on the voter rolls.
unidentified
Yeah, so there's a couple of distinctions here, right?
So the state has information.
When somebody goes to a DMV and they fill out a form and they select the box that says, I'm not a citizen, that information ends up going to the Department of Elections, right?
It goes through the mechanisms of the state process.
It ends up in the hands of the Department of Elections.
The Department of Elections then instigates this process where the person is kind of moved into a temporary status.
And to be removed from the rolls, they send out confirmation postcards, or they have the registrars try and contact that person to see if they can correct the record, etc.
So that's the state procedure, right?
Now, the state has official records that have been, you know, every year they do their yearly wrap-up of all the statistics from the Department of Elections.
And so you can look at the total aggregate numbers that What number is that?
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Approximately.
What number is that total?
unidentified
Off the top of my head, I don't know that number off the top of my head.
I do know what our numbers were.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
And your 5,000 was out of what?
Was out of how big of a population?
unidentified
Yeah.
So the numbers that we ran is a little bit different than what you'll find on the annual reports.
We are using the data provided by the Department of Elections.
Our organization purchases what's called the monthly update service, which is a transaction log of all of the transactions that have happened to the voter roll in the last month, monthly period.
I apologize for my German shepherd who is barking at the mailman at the moment.
apologize for that.
Gage, knock it off.
So.
Anyway, so we purchased data from the Department of Elections that we get at the first of every month.
And that data includes a transaction log that says, here's the number of various transactions that have happened in the registered voter list for the last 30 to 60 day period.
One of those...
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Hey, John, we're going to break.
We're going to go to break.
Back.
You can go pet your dog.
Stay with us, boardroom.
Two minutes, we're back with John.
unidentified
Great.
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dave brat ▲ ● ▼
All right, back in the war room with the great Stephen K. Bannon.
We have John Laro finishing up.
He's done some outstanding work.
John, if you aggregate, the bottom line at the end of the day, what's so key about what you're doing is this is not theoretical or statistical.
I mean, you have actual names of folks that are not authorized to vote, illegal, etc., It's also official government data.
unidentified
It's not data that I've used a commercial source.
It is data coming directly from the Department of Elections, right?
So we are not inventing any data.
We're not trying to inject anything.
The research that we did was just taking the data that we have purchased from the Department of Elections and then collating that with voter history information, which we also purchased from the Department of Elections, and showing what the statistics are.
And this coincides with what the Yunkin administration has put out.
They put out their own statistics covering a different period of time.
We don't have the data for the time that they were talking about.
But it shows that we're getting similar trending and numbers, which is important.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
And so in bottom line, at the end of the day, what are we talking about?
Is this a significant number that we should be worried about that can shift elections?
What's your takeaway at the end of the day?
I mean, number one, you want to follow the law and have accurate logs, so you're doing that.
And then how big is this?
How big is this problem?
unidentified
Well, so it's big enough that, I mean, it's not infinitesimal, right?
We hear from the left, like, it's a myth, it never happens.
No, it does happen.
And in Virginia, what we can see is we can see that it is happening at a, you know, small but a consistent rate.
And there have been a number of elections in Virginia alone where they were, you know, Yeah,
I was gonna ask you that.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Go over that one.
Yeah, so they have to check the box.
That says, I'm not a U.S. citizen.
If they do, if they lie on that, is that, what kind of a crime is that?
unidentified
So, I believe it's a class six felony for lying on an official form.
Because all of these documents, so if you fill out a jury duty questionnaire, if you fill out anything at the DMV, you are under penalty of law that you would need to be filling that out correctly.
Same thing with voter registration documents.
So there is some issue with, okay, if something got filled out by mistake, that's part of the reason that they send the correction notification.
They allow the person to say, no, this was a mistake.
wrong box or the touch screen was off, right?
They get the ability to correct that.
But it is, I mean, it is an official document that is kicking this off and it is from the person's interaction and they are self declaring.
So we don't have any statistics as to the people who are not self declared, who are, who maybe aren't citizens that are- Right, right, right.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
I know that's interesting, too.
Hey, good.
Hey, John, thank you for coming to the War Room.
This is very, very illuminating, very helpful.
How do people reach you and what's your call to action right now with a couple weeks to go?
unidentified
Sure.
So we are an organization that tries to encourage voter participation in the entire voting process.
So that includes being poll watchers or election officers.
So if you do have the time to go and actually volunteer to be a poll watcher, that would be very, very important.
You do have to go through some training with your local locality in order to do so.
You can find us at epec.info or at digitalpollewatchers.org.
That's the technical blog where I write all the results for all this analysis.
And you can find us there.
We really appreciate being on the program.
So thank you very much for taking the time.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
No, thank you.
John Laro, thank you very much, brother.
Great work.
We're pivoting over from Brian to Wisconsin.
We have Brian Shimming in the chair of the Wisconsin GOP with us.
And I think we have a clip we're going to run to tee him up.
So Denver, you got that clip?
Let it fly.
unidentified
Say more about why you think that is.
The people that Trump mobilizes to vote really do turn out for him, but they seem to drop out of the electorate in the midterm.
My suspicion is it keeps the Kamala Harris campaign up all night long.
That there's this cohort that hasn't been captureable.
Correct.
Brian Shimming, Wisconsin's Republican Party chair, is shaking the trees to identify those hidden Trump voters and, crucially, get them to the polls.
How many potential Trump supporters are there in Wisconsin who have never voted before?
Well, I spoke at President Trump's rally the other day, and I said to the folks there, look, there are hundreds of thousands of people in this state who think like us, they act like us, they live like us, they believe like us, but they don't vote.
And I truly believe that.
Is it risky to rely on this sector, these low propensity voters who have been so unreliable in the past?
It's risky not to.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Great piece.
Brian Shimming, welcome to the War Room.
Thanks for being with us.
Thanks for all the hours and the hard work you're putting in.
I cannot tell the folks out there how challenging and frustrating that can be, but you do it with a smile on your face.
Bring us up to speed.
How are we looking in Wisconsin and what's your prognosis and what should we have our eyes on and be careful about?
brian schimming ▲ ● ▼
So it gets to this, Dave, and thanks for having me on.
And didn't I look all calm on 60 Minutes?
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Yes, very good.
Well done.
brian schimming ▲ ● ▼
But I just didn't want him to try to fact-check me, and then it ended up wrong.
So, you know, the truth of the matter, Dave, is that here we are.
I always say, Wisconsin has had 12 races in 24 years that have been decided by less than 30,000 votes.
So that's close.
Ron Johnson, as you know, 26,000.
Scott Walker lost by less than 30,000.
Our attorney general lost by less than 20.
So we have a history of close races here.
And my attitude as chairman of the party has been, look, we're not leaving things on the table.
We have to go get new voters.
As I said, hundreds of thousands of them, I believe, out there in churches, at gun shows, all across the spectrum.
This is what I say to everybody.
I was on the road for four days over the weekend.
I was in Milwaukee yesterday.
I've said to the president, look, they're out there, but we have to go get them.
Republicans have to get out of their comfort zone and going, well, we're right.
We've got to talk to them the right way and they'll show up.
We have to go get them.
So one of the things I came out in favor of when I first took over as party chairman a little under two years ago was early vote.
Not because I love early vote.
I like voting on Election Day.
I like voting on a piece of paper.
I'd eliminate a lot of things probably right now if I had the choice.
But I also have an early vote on the books in this state, so I can't afford those luxuries.
unidentified
So I'm telling people, go out and early vote.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼
Yep, no, that's it.
Back with much more with Brian Shimming, Wisconsin Republican chair, doing yeoman's work out there, bringing folks into the fold.
Stay with us over the break.
Back with the War Room.
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