Oct. 18, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
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The people have had a belly full of it. | |
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| You're in the War Room with Brian Kennedy sitting in for Stephen K. Bannon, political prisoner of the Biden-Harris regime. | ||
| This hour, we are going to turn to strategic affairs. | ||
| Last hour, we talked a lot about the election. | ||
| We may talk about it some this hour, too. | ||
| For this first segment, we wanted to have someone who was a strategic thinker par excellence. | ||
| I've known Chuck DeVore for many, many years. | ||
| Today he's at the Texas Public Policy Foundation where he is the chief national initiatives officer. | ||
| He has written a brilliant piece on foxnews.com where he has examined this drone swarm that occurred in Langley Air Base in Virginia. | ||
| It happened late last year. | ||
| There was not much spoken of about it, but it is a scandal of epic proportions. | ||
| And Chuck, could you give us some insights into what you found in that, basically a drone attack on the United States? | ||
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Well, Brian, this is very disturbing. | |
| First of all, it only just came out in the Wall Street Journal last weekend. | ||
| So basically, what, 10 months after the incursions started on Pearl Harbor Day, December 7th, They went for 17 straight nights. | ||
| Some of the drones were as large as 20 feet long. | ||
| Eyewitnesses described seeing smaller quadcopters coming off of the drones and hovering low to the ground. | ||
| And while this was happening, this was transmitted up to the Biden White House. | ||
| Biden probably got a daily briefing about it within days, so let's say December 8th. | ||
| The White House, Brian, took 17 days to discuss and to dwaddle, to deal with different suggestions, to take these drones down, all of which were shot down metaphorically as being potentially too risky. | ||
| It might put civilians at risk. | ||
| The Coast Guard was queried, said, hey, we have these nets, we could try to take them down. | ||
| No, no, no, you don't have authorization for that. | ||
| They inspected one offshore vessel that was within, very close to the coast. | ||
| They took it apart, couldn't find anything. | ||
| But there were other offshore vessels that belonged to the Chinese that were not inspected. | ||
| At the end of the day, Brian, these incursions just stopped. | ||
| And Brian, Langley Air Force Base is the home of the Air Combat Command. | ||
| It's also home to a very large percentage of America's F-22 stealth interceptor aircraft, a type of aircraft that Barack Obama stopped the production line. | ||
| We don't even make them anymore. | ||
| And so these drones could have damaged that very valuable and rare equipment. | ||
| Yeah, no, it really is kind of shocking. | ||
| Everyone needs to understand when we say drones, this is a nation-state kind of operation, right, Chuck? | ||
| I mean, this could not be a collection of amateurs doing this. | ||
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No, no. | |
| First of all, these were night operations, right? | ||
| So you're having this happen at night. | ||
| And some of these drones are as large as 20 feet long. | ||
| These are not the sorts of things that civilians have access to. | ||
| Now, at the end of this swarm, they did arrest one young Chinese national who had a small quadcopter that he was using to take pictures of nearby Norfolk Air Force Base. | ||
| I think this guy, frankly, is a sacrificial lamb. | ||
| Because the sort of drone he was operating and the sort of thing he was doing was not at all even remotely to the level that we saw with this action. | ||
| Now, Brian, a couple of months earlier, we now find out in that Wall Street Journal article that there was a similar drone incursion into a nuclear testing range out near Las Vegas. | ||
| And again, four days, nothing happened with that. | ||
| Brian, since I wrote the article, I've now found out from former administration officials a couple more breaking developments that we have seen drone overflights now over the homes of the FBI agents who are investigating the drone incursions, number one. | ||
| And number two, a drone was brought down just in the last few days on the border with Mexico. | ||
| Now, this drone is a commercial drone that was made in China, has significant modifications to it. | ||
| It's one of the smaller drones. | ||
| But this marks, I think, one of the very first times, if not the first time, that a drug and human trafficking cartel has been brought down. | ||
| Now, Brian, we have the ability to bring these drones down. | ||
| It's just not being used. | ||
| And the Department of Homeland Security under Secretary Mayorkas has only allowed two of the more sophisticated anti-drone teams to even be created and manned. | ||
| And the problem is, is that it takes them so long to decide to deploy them and so long to get to the sites of these intrusions that by the time they get these special teams there, the drone incursions stop and then they go elsewhere in the nation. | ||
| So I believe 99.5% likelihood this is the People's Republic of China doing this. | ||
| The only other nation state with the capability and the desire to do this would be Russia. | ||
| But I don't think it's the Russians, I think it's the Chinese. | ||
| And the thing is, as you well know, The Chinese Communist Party operates under the Leninist principle that you probe with bayonets. | ||
| If you encounter mush, you continue. | ||
| If you encounter steel, you withdraw. | ||
| And under the Biden-Harris administration, they're encountering nothing but mush. | ||
| Yes, no, that's very well said, Chuck. | ||
| Do you think that's an... | ||
| If we found for sure, and again, you say 99.5, I mean, that's virtually 100%, is this an act of war by communist China? | ||
| I mean, we've experienced... | ||
| Please go ahead. | ||
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Yeah, so this is espionage, it's surveillance, it's spying. | |
| We don't know of any damage yet, so this is somewhat akin to To satellites and air-breathing reconnaissance aircraft. | ||
| Now, we can shoot them down legally, right? | ||
| That's perfectly acceptable. | ||
| They're over our territory. | ||
| They're in our airspace. | ||
| We should shoot them down. | ||
| And if there is any collateral damage, it is the Chinese's fault. | ||
| It's not the fault of us for securing our airspace. | ||
| And by the way, Brian, one of the things that was very disturbing to me in the Wall Street Journal article that appeared, like I said, last weekend, was that they cite this law that supposedly prevented the military from acting. | ||
| And it was the, I think it was like the 2018 Aerial Defense Act or something like an Aerial Object Defense Act. | ||
| And it gives to the Attorney General and the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, supposedly this authority to decide whether to take drones down if they pose what is called an imminent threat. | ||
| Now, I may be just a retired Lieutenant Colonel, and maybe I wasn't paying that much attention when I went through my command and general staff college. | ||
| But pretty much every military member, whether you're an officer or a non-commissioned officer, you know your chain of command. | ||
| Your chain of command goes up through your officers to the secretary of defense. | ||
| And eventually the last person is the president of the United States, the commander in chief. | ||
| Nowhere in that chain of command is the attorney general or the secretary of homeland security. | ||
| And I know for a fact that if you are a base commander, you have authority under Department of Defense regulations. | ||
| Some of them are classified depending on the base, as well as authority inherent in that position to defend your base. | ||
| And if there are unknown flying objects over your base that are within very short distances to very valuable equipment or personnel. | ||
| You have the inherent authority to defend your base. | ||
| You don't have to seek authority from the Attorney General or from the Secretary of Homeland Security. | ||
| And I think what we're seeing, Brian, is emblematic of what's happened in our government over the last couple of decades, where increasingly large numbers of attorneys in government are telling people, no, you can't do this, you can't do that, this is too risky, this could violate this rule or law. | ||
| Brian, we have to cut through this. | ||
| We have to allow our military members, our warriors to be warriors and not Somehow think that they need to go mother may I to a brainstorming session in the White House for 17 straight days with a bunch of attorneys saying, no, you can't act. | ||
| You can't use a directed energy weapon. | ||
| Maybe it'll harm a civilian aircraft during Christmas time traffic. | ||
| By the way, completely bogus concern that wouldn't have happened. | ||
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| Now, look, I think that's very important, Chuck, what you just said. | ||
| I mean, to underscore that, any of those drones could have held, you know, that collection of them could have had explosive devices, charges... | ||
| Some weapons within them that could have destroyed those F-22 fighters. | ||
| F-22 Raptors, I believe they were. | ||
| And it's those F-22s that are part of the NORAD system to defend North America, but specifically Washington, D.C. Correct. | ||
| And so when the Biden-Harris administration heard about this, it should have been in their own self-interest to make sure that those drones were destroyed immediately to defend our government. | ||
| And that didn't happen. | ||
| Let me say quickly as an aside, I was just in Michigan. | ||
| I was giving a talk on national security. | ||
| I know you were yesterday down in Texas. | ||
| And in my remarks, I was talking about all these different Chinese threats. | ||
| One of the sheriffs who was there defending his county, Oakland County, I believe, in Michigan, he said that there are so many restrictions on shooting down drones that next week he's going to have he said that there are so many restrictions on shooting down drones that next week he's going to have to defend and protect Kamala Harris, who's campaigning in Oakland County, and later next week, and later next week, Donald Trump. | ||
| He said if there are drones flying over either one of those events, his people do not have authority to shoot down those drones. | ||
| So there's a kind of almost suicidal nature to how the American government is operating these days. | ||
| And the sheriff thought, of course, it was nonsensical and there's some threat to either Harris or to President Trump. | ||
| He's going to do something about it. | ||
| But that doesn't mean that our country today is operating with the kind of common sense it needs to. | ||
| And so, you know, what you're seeing today, you know, makes sense of what I'm describing. | ||
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Well, I mean, it is very difficult to make sense, but I think that one of the things that we can trace it back to is if you go back to the 1990s, to the Clinton-Gore administration and this whole idea of reinventing government, we did shed a lot of government employees, especially out of the Department of Defense civilian cadre. | |
| But what we did, Brian, is we hired several million people that we basically outsource more of the blue collar and more of the middle management functions to corporations. | ||
| And during that time, the number of people in the federal government with advanced degrees, with law degrees, went up significantly as a share of the overall workforce. | ||
| And so I think what's begun to happen to our federal workforce is we're like this muscle-bound man on Venice Beach in California. | ||
| These muscles on top of muscles, but they're not able to do basic tasks. | ||
| They're not athletic. | ||
| They're not able to react to things. | ||
| And that's what we're beginning to see is the administrative state is increasingly bound, almost like Gulliver by the Lilliputians with thousands of ropes, preventing action by saying, no, you can't do that. | ||
| There's rules and regulations and there's risk involved. | ||
| It's this zero-risk issue. | ||
| Tolerance that we're beginning to see beginning, of course, that has spread into the military now where you have this zero defect, zero risk idea among the military officers who are supposed to be risk takers. | ||
| They're supposed to understand how to take calculated risks in their jobs. | ||
| I think that's what we're beginning to see. | ||
| And of course, you put on top of that the Biden-Harris attitude. | ||
| They don't want to provoke anything with China, Brian, because at this point, this many days before the election, If it came out to the average American voter that the People's Republic of China have been flying significant drones over American sensitive military installations on top of the spy balloon incident that we saw last year, I think that would not go well for them. | ||
| Yeah, I totally agree, Chuck. | ||
| Can I hold you over just for a few minutes, Chuck, on the other? | ||
| ...is about something sacred and about our safety and about our freedom. | ||
| And unfortunately, some policy debates and some positions and opinions are... | ||
| Are not for today. | ||
| I mean, it's unfortunate. | ||
| Nobody wants that. | ||
| Nobody wants that more than Morning Joe, which was supposed to be and was created as sort of an island of civility in a sea of shrill voices where both sides could hash out issues they disagree on. | ||
| And yet this campaign seems to be about something else. | ||
| Am I right? | ||
| And if so, can you explain? | ||
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Of course. | |
| And thank you so much for that. | ||
| Of course, in an America where we all come to the table of democracy as equals and we all respect each other, we can and should have vigorous debates about policy. | ||
| What should the size of them? | ||
| What should the tax code look like? | ||
| You know, do you favor trickle-down economics or do you favor building from the bottom up and the middle out? | ||
| And the contrast could not be starker between the two campaigns. | ||
| However, There is something much more important at stake right now, and that's democracy itself and the ability of us as Americans to actually enjoy the freedoms that the Constitution bestows upon us. | ||
| So the thing that has not changed since Donald Trump came down that elevator, although he's gotten much better at being bad, is that Donald Trump is unfit for the presidency. | ||
| Now, if you don't believe in Democrats or you don't believe the mainstream media or you don't believe Fox, that's okay. | ||
| Donald Trump himself Picked people to work for him at the highest reaches who know more about our national security than anybody. | ||
| So when you have a General Milley or you have a General Mattis or you have a Mark Esper or you have a John Kelly, these are all men that Donald Trump picked. | ||
| He picked them to beat them who are now telling us to please be careful because Donald Trump Is actually using power to help himself and to hurt his enemies and is unfit, besides the fact that he seems a little bit out of whack the last couple of months, as you can tell. | ||
| That is a red flag that the people of America should pay attention to. | ||
| Now, I am a political opponent of Donald Trump, so I take very seriously and I take literally his threats to hurt his political enemies because I stand against him, as does President Clinton. | ||
| I don't think we can take any more of that clip. | ||
| Anytime I hear that President Trump picked people to serve for him and then they somehow turned on him, it doesn't call into question so much President Trump's judgment as the judgment of the men who swore a note to defend this Constitution and don't seem to be doing it by being, in effect, treasonous in their... | ||
| Lack of fidelity to the president and the president's desires. | ||
| And it also shows the power of the deep state. | ||
| Before we went to break, we had Chuck DeVore from the Texas Public Policy Foundation. | ||
| Chuck's a strategic thinker of the first order, I imagine, in a next Trump administration, meaning next January. | ||
| Someone like Chuck, if not Chuck himself, is going to be a senior person in a Trump administration, and he's exactly the kind of person you would be. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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Well, great. | |
| Thanks, Brian. | ||
| So the Texas Public Policy Foundation is the largest state-based think tank in the country. | ||
| We're about 110 people now. | ||
| I deal with the initiatives that are mostly outside of Texas. | ||
| So this includes energy and includes election integrity. | ||
| It includes a public interest law firm that sues the federal government. | ||
| So it's almost 50 people that do great work around the country. | ||
| It's a real honor and a blessing to have that opportunity. | ||
| I'm a senior contributor at The Federalist, so you find a lot of my work there. | ||
| In fact, I had a piece there this morning about how if you want to see what the future of America would be like under Kamala Harris, you only have to look as far as California, because those are the policies she's going to bring with her. | ||
| I write a lot at Fox News. | ||
| I have a pieces on the Daily Caller as well. | ||
| And you can find me on X at Chuck DeVore. | ||
| So pretty much post everything that I write there every day and stay pretty active on social media, but especially on X. Well, thank you, Chuck, and thank you for all you're doing and your leadership around the country. | ||
| If we save this country, it'll be with men like you. | ||
| So thank you, Chuck. | ||
| Great to have you on the show today. | ||
| Next up, we have a colleague of mine on the Committee on the Present Danger, China, Bradley Thayer. | ||
| He's no stranger to this show. | ||
| He's been a host. | ||
| He's been a guest. | ||
| He is a brilliant scholar when it comes to strategic matters, but most especially communist China. | ||
| He has a fabulous book out with Jim Fennell that I'll get him to promote. | ||
| Brad, thank you for being with us here today. | ||
| You have a recent piece up, I know, in Epoch Times about what is going on in Taiwan. | ||
| Could you fill us in on that? | ||
| Sure, Brian, pleased to, and wonderful to join you. | ||
| The piece in Epoch Times was a call to recognize the bravery of William Lai, the president of Taiwan, who was elected in January and came into office a few months later. | ||
| And what William Lai has done is to call out the lies of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| He said that really the Republic of China is and should be the leader of China. | ||
| It was the Chinese Communist Party who came years afterwards, coming to power in 1949, when the Republic of China was founded in 1912. | ||
| William Lyons also just simply refused to accept the tutelage, the superiority or the domination of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And so he's an expert at political warfare and he's chosen to call attention to the lies of the Chinese Communist Party, which too often are repeated by people in American foreign policy community and around the world. | ||
| So he really is a hero for doing what he's doing. | ||
| And the fact that the Chinese Communist Party recently, that is this week, conducted a military exercise joint sword 2024-B against him shows That he's doing what he should be doing. | ||
| He's calling attention to the lies of the Chinese Communist Party, refusing to accept them. | ||
| And he's really making an appeal, Brian, although not directly, he's making an appeal for the recognition of the strategic realities of the 21st century, which is Taiwan is an independent nation. | ||
| It should be recognized as such. | ||
| It's critically important for the global economy through chip production, as well as having a formidable economy on its own right, to say nothing of the chip production. | ||
| It's a very important geostrategic space. | ||
| And should be a key military ally of the United States in conjunction with other allies that we have in the Indo-Pacific and partners also in the Indo-Pacific. | ||
| But fundamentally, Taiwan shows what China can be. | ||
| Taiwan shows that China can be a democracy. | ||
| It can have a stable democratic government. | ||
| And because of that, the Chinese Communist Party targets him, targets Taiwan, of course, and William Lai in particular, and his political party, for ever increasing coercive measures. | ||
| And we should anticipate that those coercive measures are going to increase And that they may occur in the near term. | ||
| These coercive measures are getting worse. | ||
| They're becoming more frequent. | ||
| And the violations of Taiwanese air and sea space are occurring with great regularity. | ||
| No, they are. | ||
| And the mere fact that William Lye is doing these things and saying these things with Joe Biden as the president, who is not likely to come to their aid, shows just how courageous he is. | ||
| But, Brad, the whole show I've been sort of assuming... | ||
| That President Trump is going to win. | ||
| He's ahead in all the polls. | ||
| You can feel the energy on the ground. | ||
| And so I'm assuming there's going to be a Trump presidency in January. | ||
| And President Trump will need your vision of how to defend Taiwan in those early parts of the administration. | ||
| Could you articulate over the next minute or so a beginning of such a strategy to defend Taiwan? | ||
| Well, certainly it involves having a robust conventional and nuclear deterrent on and around Taiwan. | ||
| It requires reversing the neglect of the Biden administration for the U.S. Navy and for the U.S. Air Force presence in the region, U.S. Army presence and broadly U.S. military presence in conjunction with our allies and partners in the area. | ||
| It's going to require having individuals in the region. | ||
| It's going to have individuals on Taiwan in an overt presence, Brian, which is very important. | ||
| To draw the line in the sand and to say that the strategic realities of the 21st century compelled the United States to recognize Taiwan and to defend it. | ||
| Because of its critical role in the global economy, its critical geostrategic space, and its critical role in the fight, the political warfare fight against the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And so that's going to require looking at Taiwanese defense in a new light. | ||
| And that's going to require ensuring that the conventional and nuclear capabilities of the United States are brought to bear again in conjunction with allies and partners in the region. | ||
| Yeah, that's perfect, Brad. | ||
| Can you stick with us? | ||
| We're heading toward a break, and love to have you stick with us. | ||
| We're going to have Sam Faddis and Frank Gaffney with us as well. | ||
| So this will be a mini-meeting of the Committee on the Present Danger China. | ||
| You're in the war room. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| You're back in the war room. | ||
| I'm Brian Kennedy, sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon, political prisoner of the Biden-Harris regime. | ||
| I have a collection of my colleagues from the Committee on the Present Danger China. | ||
| You just heard from Bradley Thayer, who's going to join us for the rest of the half hour. | ||
| We have Sam Faddis with us, former CIA officer, writer, editor, and really a critical figure in understanding the strategic situation we find ourselves in today, as well as my partner in crime on as well as my partner in crime on the Committee on the Present Danger, Frank Gaffney. | ||
| The four of us will be in Allentown, Pennsylvania, Saturday, tomorrow, for a conference of the American Freedom Alliance and the Committee on the Present Danger, China. | ||
| You'll have a lot of folks from the committee, but a lot of folks from the War Room Posse. | ||
| It should be a great event. | ||
| We've done these all around the country. | ||
| They've been a lot of fun meeting all the folks. | ||
| But Allentown, Pennsylvania, tomorrow. | ||
| Go to AmericanFreedomAlliance.org to learn more about that. | ||
| That's AmericanFreedomAlliance.org. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Bradley was talking with us before we went to break, Frank, about William Lai in Taiwan and the courage it took. | ||
| And before we go back to that... | ||
| Sam has had a recent piece out where he describes the Congressional Committee here in Washington that has come out with a new report, a House Committee report on Chinese influence in the United States. | ||
| Sam, could you tell us a bit about what you were thinking about all that and really the implications of that report? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, first of all, if I knew that we were all going to appear in public, the whole gang of four here, I might have declined. | ||
| I thought that was a violation of our tradecraft rules. | ||
| But that aside, look, the House Committee on Homeland Security has come out with this, what they call CCP threat snapshot. | ||
| And for those of us that are following this day to day, It's kind of old hat, but I think probably shocking to bring it all together in one place and just for the average American who has other things to do. | ||
| And really just convey that what we're looking at here with Chinese intelligence operations Is literally a threat to the continued existence of the Republic and certainly to our position as the preeminent power on the planet. | ||
| I mean, in the article we wrote it in, we tried to go through and just grab ahold of some of the bullet points to try to get people's attention. | ||
| I mean, amongst other things, the FBI is now opening a new espionage case against the CCP on average every 12 hours. | ||
| So this is not, hey, there's a few of these cases floating around and this is kind of a peripheral issue. | ||
| This is being done on such a scale. | ||
| They are stealing so much, co-opting so many people. | ||
| It literally has taken away the foundations of the Republic. | ||
| And we go into some detail just talking to try to, again, grab a hold of a concrete example of the fact that they have these new stealth fighters, the Chinese. | ||
| And we know as a fact, it is not conjecture because we caught the guy who was at the head of this and ultimately prosecuted him, that they literally built these fighters based on the blueprints and design specifications of ours. | ||
| They literally stole from subcontractors of Lockheed everything. | ||
| Just like the Russians built their first atomic bomb from our blueprints down to the location and size of the bolts. | ||
| That's how the Russians built their first nuke. | ||
| They just stole our design. | ||
| That's what the Chinese have done. | ||
| We are literally now designing for the Chinese the fighters that will win the war against us. | ||
| That's where we are. | ||
| No, it would suggest to you that we're in World War III. And this is one of the things that's been the theme of these conferences we're doing, and really the theme of my colleague Frank Gaffney's long-time work. | ||
| Frank, thank you for being in the War Room today. | ||
| It's always a pleasure to be with you, my friend, in person. | ||
| But give us your take on this new report, because I do think it's dramatic. | ||
| Well, to the point you just made, Brian, I call this World War Xi because I think really every aspect of it is a direct or at least an indirect product of what Xi Jinping, the emperor of China, is up to. | ||
| And the home front piece of this is particularly alarming. | ||
| I understand before I got here that you were talking about this drone incident. | ||
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Right. | |
| These guys were operating over the most sensitive national security real estate in the country. | ||
| Who was that masked man? | ||
| The question occurs. | ||
| Well, I think it's probably the CCP. The larger problem that the Homeland Security Committee is talking about in terms of influence operations, and Sam and Brad have done incredibly important work laying all this out with the committee and in their own right. | ||
| It's hard to get your head around the extent of the penetration, the suborning, the capture, as the Chinese call it, of these elites. | ||
| And when you put it all together, it puts us in extreme peril, especially when you add into the mix the who knows how many tens of thousands of People's Liberation Army personnel that especially when you add into the mix the who knows how many tens of thousands of People's Liberation Army personnel that we believe have been insinuated into the country too. | ||
| This gives Xi the option, I believe, all of these things together, of taking down the country at will. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is one of the reasons why, typically at these conferences, we've highlighted the point that Americans need to be very aware of this fact. | ||
| Because there's no one in Washington, it would appear, who's adequately protecting them, thinking about this, defending them. | ||
| I mean, really, we may be seeing a change here in this government where people even, as Sam just said, if the FBI is opening cases on this after having shut them down for many years, even they may realize this has gone too far. | ||
| Sam... | ||
| If I could just quickly on that, you have the director of the FBI... Seemingly every other day, warning about attacks here. | ||
| So this may be just a butt covering exercise. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But if they're not spinning up about it, if they're not focused on it, if they're not actually moving beyond the investigations and rolling these guys up, I mean, for heaven's sakes, we've talked about this before with the committee and the war room, I think with Steve. | ||
| We need a crowdsourcing operation trying to figure out where are these people's Liberation Army personnel? | ||
| You know, the American people were told, see something, say something. | ||
| We need them helping the FBI, which is wildly outgunned here in the United States by the kind of presence, and that's before you even get to the students, 300,000 or so of them, I mean, this is a time where the Chinese are waging a people's war against us, as you know, a whole of society. | ||
| We need a whole of society defense at the moment and a war footing. | ||
| No, absolutely. | ||
| Sam, you have long experience in the intelligence community. | ||
| I've been taking the theme this morning that we're winning the election, President Trump is winning the election, and that there'll be a new sheriff in town, and we're going to get a lot of these things right. | ||
| My choice for CIA director is Sam Faddis. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Sam, humor me and just let me know and the audience know, what would we do day one to start correcting everything we've been describing here? | ||
| Well, the important thing to understand is that there's no mystery about what needs to be done, right? | ||
| It's not like we have to get serious and we have to get real. | ||
| And I don't mean to sound silly or simplistic, but Okay, let's start with this. | ||
| We're allowing the Chinese to run rampant. | ||
| So Frank's talking about the number of students. | ||
| Well, every one of those students, whether they want to or not, works for the CCP because they have their choice because they've got a hammer over their head. | ||
| So you have to begin by dramatically limiting the pool of people you're trying to keep an eye on. | ||
| You can't monitor hundreds of thousands of students. | ||
| So you're going to have to cut that pool. | ||
| And then you're going to have to enforce really serious restrictions On access to information. | ||
| You can't just say, let's go out and get serious and let's hunt down what amounts to an ungodly number of Chinese spies or co-opties. | ||
| You've got to really begin to limit the pool, get serious, numbers of individuals, access, all of these things. | ||
| And then you've got to get really hard-nosed about prosecution and investigation. | ||
| Ultimately, we caught the guy Who ran this op that gave all of the design specs for the F-22 and F-35 fighters to the Chinese. | ||
| But he operated for six years on our soil and literally stole everything before we prosecuted him. | ||
| So, I mean, it's great that he went to prison, but from a national security perspective, it's irrelevant because there was nothing left for him to steal. | ||
| What's missing here, I guess, is what I'm trying to say is just the political will. | ||
| Tell people to get serious. | ||
| You have counterintelligence professionals who know what they're supposed to do, know how to put these people in prison, know how to take the number of Chinese students down to, I don't know, a tenth of what it is. | ||
| But we just have to have the political will to do that. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Yeah, no, and it would appear we don't have that. | ||
| Are you seeing that, Frank? | ||
| Political will, political leadership, political clarity even. | ||
| Look, I think the key tell here, Brian, is that we're not even talking about this in the course of an election where we'll decide on the leadership, on the clarity, on the direction of the country. | ||
| I've said it here elsewhere many times. | ||
| We need the kind of strategic course correction in America That my old boss Ronald Reagan brought to the last great communist existential threat to freedom, the Soviet Union. | ||
| Namely he went to the American people and he asked for a mandate to make that course correction to bring them down. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Let's pick that theme up when we come right back. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Brian Kennedy with you here in the War Room, sitting in for Stephen K. Bannon with... | ||
| We have with us the great Mike Lindell. | ||
| I can tell you at my house, Mike, there are pillows, there are blankets, there is coffee, you name it, we have it. | ||
| And we do it in part because we love you and everything you've done for the country. | ||
| And so I know you're on the last day of your vacation here before you do the final run to the election. | ||
| Tell us how we're doing in the election and tell us about the pillows and every other special you have. | ||
| Well, thank you. | ||
| Yeah, it's been like a one-day vacation, but as you see, I'm always working and I want to help save this country. | ||
| Everybody, I'm so optimistic right now. | ||
| I feel the best I've felt about this election, every day even better. | ||
| You can check all the polling. | ||
| I was emailing with Steve and he's excited. | ||
| He said, I emailed him last week with all my optimism in prison there. | ||
| And he says, well, where are you getting this optimism? | ||
| And then I said, just check the polls. | ||
| He emailed me back today. | ||
| He says, wow, they're all showing Great numbers for our great real president. | ||
| But you guys, we have so many things in place that you all should get involved in. | ||
| Go to LyndellPlan.com and see what we're doing. | ||
| See what we have in place. | ||
| We have 300,000 people on the ground in all 50 states. | ||
| This plan is great to secure our elections. | ||
| We only get one shot at this, everybody, so you all need to get involved. | ||
| Another thing, if I could get you all to go to vocal.com, that's V-O-C-L.com. | ||
| That's where we have all, it's like on Facebook, you'll see it there, V-O-C-L.com. | ||
| That's where all our election information is, where you can see what's going on in your own county, even as we speak. | ||
| So it's gonna be, I'm very excited. | ||
| And I'm hoping to speak at the upcoming rallies. | ||
| I'm gonna go with our real president and be out there at all the upcoming rallies, as many as I can do. | ||
| I've been going around the country, and I think all of you should too. | ||
| I've been going around the country to churches. | ||
| Speaking at churches, a couple thousand people the other day in Texas, We need to get involved. | ||
| They said there was one poll out that only half of the Christian conservatives are gonna vote. | ||
| I don't believe the poll, but you know what? | ||
| We can't take any chances. | ||
| When you go to church this Sunday, you sit outside. | ||
| You're inside, outside. | ||
| All you need to be talking about is this election. | ||
| You need to talk about it and get everybody you know to vote, vote, vote. | ||
| We've gotta get people out to vote. | ||
| And this can't be one where you sit back and you say, well, my state's gonna be this or my state's gonna be that. | ||
| I actually did a speech in Hawaii, all over the country, but Hawaii, my home state of Minnesota, where usually you have suppression going, well, what's the use? | ||
| It's gonna be blue anyway. | ||
| We need your vote. | ||
| If you go to LyndalePlan.com, we need you involved with this plan because this isn't just for this election. | ||
| This is to secure all elections. | ||
| We need every voter in every county and every state in the United States for this. | ||
| Three and a half, four years have built up to everything we're doing right now to secure our elections. | ||
| We need our great real president back. | ||
| I thought it was great this morning on Fox and Friends when he was there, and he did a great job. | ||
| But I want to tell the War Room Posse- That's great, Mike. | ||
| Yeah, I wanna tell the War Room Posse about the specials with MyPillow and my story. | ||
| You guys have made this possible this last year. | ||
| MyPillow has been under the biggest attack in history by any company, any company anywhere. | ||
| Our Attorney General is now attacking my charities, my Lindale Recovery Network, the Attorney General of Minnesota, Keith Ellison. | ||
| And so this keeps going on and on. | ||
| But you guys keep supporting us. | ||
| Today, we have our new product came in, the flannel sheets for this fall. | ||
| They just came in today. | ||
| This is a War Room exclusive special. | ||
| They're on sale for $99.98, but we're doing as low as $59.98. | ||
| You guys, this is a War Room exclusive today. | ||
| So all the colors are in, you guys go to the website. | ||
| Promo code WARROOM. Go down until you see Steve's face. | ||
| Click on it, and there you go. | ||
| All the specials are there. | ||
| There's the flannel sheets. | ||
| And you scroll down. | ||
| You got the 80% off special that we still have to close out. | ||
| Our bed topper's on sale. | ||
| But those flannel sheets, get them while we have them right now. | ||
| And then you see there's also mystore.com. | ||
| You guys can even cross over now from MyPillow to mystore. | ||
| I've been telling you that the last couple days. | ||
| That's Steve's favorite. | ||
| That's wonderful. | ||
| 100% USA Made Entrepreneurs. | ||
| Thank you, Mike. | ||
| There's the number to call. | ||
| That's great, Mike. | ||
| I encourage everyone to go do that. | ||
| Enjoy your one-day vacation, Mike, and then get right back to work. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you again for all you do. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Thank you, Mike. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| We only have a few minutes left here. | ||
| Do we still have Brad with us? | ||
| Brad, can you tell us the title of your book and where people can go to find you? | ||
| My recent book with Jim Fennell is Embracing Communist China, America's Greatest Strategic Mistake. | ||
| And folks can find me at Brad Thayer on X or Bradley Thayer on Getter at Truth, Brian. | ||
| And look forward to seeing you tomorrow in Allentown, Pennsylvania. | ||
| Yeah, I look forward to it, too. | ||
| Sam, you're going to be with us as well in Allentown. | ||
| You're the editor of Ann Magazine. | ||
| Tell us a bit about that as we're going out here. | ||
| Yeah, people that want to find me can find me at Ann Magazine or Substack, andmagazine.substack.com. | ||
| And my last comment would be this, free Steve Bannon. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Free Steve Bannon. | ||
| That's wonderful. | ||
| And finally, let me turn to you, Frank. | ||
| You are the hardest working man in all of show business. | ||
| And I'm very proud to be working with you. | ||
| Give us some of your closing thoughts here. | ||
| Well, just very quickly, two thoughts. | ||
| One is the comments we've been making about the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| This enemy is real. | ||
| It poses an existential danger to this country, both from without and, as Donald Trump has been talking about, from within. | ||
| It needs to be addressed as such. | ||
| PresentDangerChina.org is where you can find our webinars and a great deal of work, much of it featuring people that we've just been hearing from, including our chairman, Brian Kennedy. | ||
| But I did also want to just mention one other thing. | ||
| The Chinese are also beavering away at world government with Chinese characteristics, to be sure. | ||
| We did a wonderful Sovereignty Summit yesterday, and you can find it at SovereigntySummit.org. | ||
| I'm going to end on a personal note. | ||
| Two points. | ||
| One, it's very hard to put on this show. | ||
| Someone who doesn't get a lot of credit is Cameron Wallace, the producer. | ||
| He is doing a brilliant job, as is Natalie Winters. | ||
| Let me make a final point. | ||
| It's October 18th. | ||
| My father, it's his birthday. | ||
| He'd be 110 years old. | ||
| He was a policeman in Los Angeles. | ||
| He was a Marine in World War II. He thought he was the luckiest man in the whole world. | ||
| He was living the American dream. | ||
| Over the next two weeks, that's what we're fighting for. |
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