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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
unidentified
The people have had a belly full of it.
peter navarro
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bound.
Here's the way I see it, Joy.
This is just classic Trump lunacy.
He intentionally pushes the boundaries.
And for me, there's something much more sinister at play here.
It's not just that I think he's mental.
It's not just that I think he should release his medical records, which I'm not sure that I would trust at all.
But for me, it feels like he's intentionally driving this point about making a democracy of our democracy and our institutions making a joke of the office of the commander-in-chief to really serve the benefit of his real bosses.
And I'm not talking about the American people.
I mean, there's still these unanswered questions about his relationship with Vladimir Putin.
Putin. There's still these questions about why he sent a COVID test to Putin.
So for me, there's something much more sinister at play why the president, the former president, is really going to these extremes to really, I think, you know, make the point that the joke is on us as American people.
I mean, it's a slap in the face of his voters, but also to the American people.
The other thing I would point out, too, is this feels like, to me, a base vote strategy on...
peter navarro
I can't. I can't.
I can't take any more of these Democrat tropes.
They're just... Oh, come on, girl.
Mockery of democracy.
Okay, you're clever. Cute.
This is what they've stooped to, and we're going to talk right about that momentarily.
We've got two folks on Right now that can actually make a huge difference.
This is perfect war room stuff because I've got a congressional candidate here.
His name is Dan Franzese.
And he's running in congressional district 22 in the great state of Florida.
He's Trump endorsed. And he's running against the classic, classic, classic Radical liberal and Lois Frankel, an incumbent, like, her expiration date was about two terms ago.
I don't know who's older, Bernie Sanders or her, but what's old about her is her ideas.
They're just absolutely toxic.
Now, here's the situation.
This district is winnable.
It's been redistricted more favorably, and it's a plus nine or ten, something like that, Democrat.
But that's deceptive because there's a lot of independents in it.
So this is a seat right now.
For plucking, we're going to talk about this with Dan.
We're going to talk about this with one of the great pollsters in America, a legend, John McLaughlin.
But first, we want to have everyone get the number of House Speaker Mike Johnson.
And as we go through this today, I'm going to ask you repeatedly to call Johnson's office and have him get feet first into this race.
This seat... It's winnable.
In Washington, they're not paying attention to it because they don't like to take risks.
But we take risks here on The War of Den.
Welcome to the Raw Room, sir.
Well, thank you. So, you ran once before you got close.
Tell us about this race and why you think it's doable.
unidentified
Sure. So, I ran in 2022.
I was the Republican nominee.
I got 45% of the vote, so versus 55% for Lois Frankel.
And that shocked everyone because everyone thought I would get no better than 30%.
So that did get a lot of attention for the race.
A lot of people, including President Trump, encouraged me to run again.
Versus 2022, it's a completely different story.
And it really comes down to three things.
I've gotten better. The district's gotten a lot better.
We could talk about that. Lois Frankel's gotten a lot worse.
peter navarro
Okay. We have John McLaughlin up Denver.
unidentified
Do we have him? Denver?
peter navarro
Is John up?
Alright, let's bring John in right now.
I'm honored to have John LeGlocken on the War Room.
And tell us, John, you polled for this race.
Tell us why it's winnable.
We talked a little bit offline.
It's textured. A lot of stuff going on.
But have at it, and if you want to go off a little bit on, I don't know if you saw the cold open where they were going after our boss, Trump, on this mockery of democracy mail stuff, but the floor is yours, sir.
We are honored to have you with us.
unidentified
Well, I'm honored to be with Dan because Dan, he won a big, decisive primary win this year to get the nomination in this district.
And he ran as a President Trump supporter, and President Trump endorsed him, and Dan did a great job.
And it was a decisive win over somebody who was outspending us, etc., because Dan's right on the issues.
And Lois Frankel, you know, she's a weak incumbent.
She's well under 50% on our favorables.
If we can get her unfavorables from 30 to 40 percent in the next three weeks or less than three weeks, Dan's going to win.
And voters know she's wrong where she wants to have taxpayer funded benefits for illegals.
She wants to have, you know, biological men play girl sports in high school and college.
She's against when—there was a vote in Congress when she—they voted, you know, that there should be tough criminal penalties on people that would harm police.
She voted against it.
And she's voted for all the taxing and spending that kicked off the inflation, et cetera.
When voters know these things, plus she's got some insider trading problems, when a voter knows these things, it's a dead-even race.
And that's in a district that's 12 points from a Democrat.
And President Trump lost the district by 17 points four years ago, but now he's running within single digits that he can pull the upset off here.
So, and this is his home district.
This is, you know, Peter, you live there.
You know the area. And it's got significant groups of Catholic ethnic voters and Jewish voters.
It's typically Florida for those of us who have We've been there and who know the area well.
And Dan's the perfect candidate that can pull off the upset here because 60% of the voters say the country's on the wrong track.
And they like the job that Donald Trump did compared to the job that Biden, Harris, and Frankel have done for the last four years.
So it's typical of those kind of swing Democrat districts that you're seeing where you can pull off the upset win.
peter navarro
So, do me the crosstabs on, for example, Catholics.
It's interesting that Catholics seem to be moving swiftly away from the Democrats this year.
unidentified
What's going on there? Yes, Dan's winning with Catholic voters, so is President Trump.
And President Trump, I mean, look at what's going to happen Thursday night in New York.
Kamala Harris, Cardinal Dolan, they have this Al Smith dinner every four years.
They did it virtually, I guess, or whatever, four years ago during COVID. But every four years, the leading two candidates usually come together for something that's supposed to be kind of lighthearted, etc., or whatever.
It's kind of good-natured.
In 2016, you had Hillary Clinton there with Donald Trump.
Kamala Harris is not going this year.
She's the one who grilled some federal judge nomination because the guy was in the Knights of Columbus.
Harris and Frankel definitely will have a problem with Catholic voters this year.
And Dan's the perfect candidate to win on those issues.
peter navarro
And how about African Americans and Jewish Americans in this district?
Both are moving towards Trump.
Will they matter in this district?
unidentified
Yes. And I think, you know what?
Dan can tell you, he's been going door to door, working really hard in this district.
And we've talked about what he's finding at the doors with these voters.
And the levels of what I would call lack of enthusiasm, lack of support for Lois Frankel and for the Democrats this year.
So I think Dan could give you a better answer than I could with the polls in this.
But she's definitely underperforming, just like Kamala Harris.
Definitely underperforming.
peter navarro
We're going to have plenty of time momentarily.
Tell me why...
The Republican House Committee doesn't pay attention to winnable races like this and why they should.
Because Mike Johnson, again, put Mike's number up there.
I want everybody in the posse to call him and say, look, Dan Franzese needs your support in the final three weeks.
We can win that seat. John, explain to me why these Republicans don't kind of get it.
unidentified
I think they focus a lot of resources on about 40 competitive races.
And they're focusing a lot of resources where the Democrats, for example, in New York and California, there's Republicans that have won seats that Joe Biden won.
And they're pouring in tens of millions of dollars there.
And it used to be that...
Every now and then, when you'd have certain leaders that were heading the campaign committees, they'd look to steal one, whether it was, you know, Tom Reynolds or Tom Davis.
They would look for districts where, where could we take one from the Democrats that they don't expect?
I go all the way back.
I'm an old man. I go all the way back to, what, in 1994.
We were going to have the big landslide with Speaker Gingrich, and I still work with Speaker Gingrich on his American New Majority Project, where we took a survey where basically the Republican Flanagan was beating Dan Rostenkowski in Cook County in Chicago.
And it was about a week after the election, Haley said to me, What do you think?
And I said, don't tell anybody because he's got three million dollars in the bank and he's not spending it.
So, and Rostenkowski lost.
I think he was saving it for legal fees.
But this is one of those, it's in a democratic area.
They don't normally look at it.
And you look for a race that you can steal.
And this is the one where, you know, it's right in President Trump's You know, front yard, not his back yard.
Because you've got Mar-a-Lago, you've got that part of Palm Beach, plus you've got Lake Worth and other areas in there where Dan knows it really, really well because he's worked very, very hard this year to win the primary and to support President Trump.
And it's that part of Florida where we can do well and they don't expect it.
peter navarro
John, we've got two minutes left.
Can you just give us a summary of the national race, how Trump's doing, how Kamala Harris is free falling, all that good stuff?
unidentified
Well, I'm not usually used to this.
At this point, eight years ago, I was arguing with a lot of pundits about the Hillary lock.
And, you know, we were down seven, eight points at this point in the national polls, losing all the battleground states.
And I was telling people that, no, President Trump could still win.
And by 78,000 votes in three states, we won this electoral victory and shocked the world and the nation.
And I think, you know, four years ago, by the way, it was worse with Joe Biden.
It's down 10 points at this stage, losing every battleground state.
And, you know, it was a Biden blue wave.
And the same thing, I said, no, it's going to be really close.
And when you think about it, out of a record 160 million votes, just by 44,000 votes, 12,000 Arizona and Georgia, respectively, and in 20,000 Wisconsin, We just missed getting President Trump re-elected.
So this time around, I'm not used to having President Trump tied.
I mean, Marquette came out today with a poll that has Trump at 50% and Harris at 50%.
No undecided, just totally tied.
I'm not used to being even in the national polls, which are the battleground states.
But it's close. So we need Trump voters in Dan's district and other places throughout the country to not just vote yourself and vote early.
I mean, they had a record turnout in Georgia yesterday.
But vote, but also bring your friends and family to go vote.
Because... Democrats are very good.
And in Florida, in Dan's district, they'll vote early in person.
They'll vote early by mail.
And some people will still vote on Election Day.
But as Dan's going door to door, we're getting Trump supporters out.
And the key thing is for President Trump, you know, don't just vote.
You know, if you're a Trump supporter, don't just vote for yourself, but also bring your friends and family to go vote.
Get everybody out, because we've got to, as President Trump says, we've got to swamp the vote so that they know on election night this race is over and President Trump has won.
But it's very close right now.
peter navarro
All right, my brother. You heard that from the great John McLaughlin.
We'll be back with Dan Francis.
We'll talk a little bit more about his race.
John, I can't thank you enough, brother.
We'll be right back. Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.
You are in the war room.
I'm delighted to be with Dan Francis.
He's a congressional candidate, District 2 in the state of Florida.
He's running against Bernie Sanders in a dress.
Lois Frankel, yes.
Lois Frankel.
She's got 100 percent.
No, it's 110 percent the last time I looked.
Voting records straight. Biden-Harris tickets.
She's been around way too long.
Dan's taking her on.
This one is one we can steal.
If you listen in to the last segment, we had the great John McLaughlin, and he does Dan's polling.
It's a winnable race.
Do you hear me, Speaker Johnson?
Get your ass down here to Florida and spend a little money here.
Take a little risk.
Dan, welcome to War Room, brother.
Thank you. So, let's get the people to know a little bit about you.
You... We talked a little bit off air, but distinguished career.
Tell us a little bit about who you are and why people should embrace you instead of Lois Frankel.
unidentified
Absolutely. So I'm a businessman.
I'm not a politician.
I earned my MBA at Wharton.
Same school that President Trump, where he got his business training.
Put it to great use.
Had a very successful business career.
But I've always been interested in politics.
I was actually a congressional intern in 1981 for half a summer.
Is that right? Yes, yes. Who?
Gregory Carman. He was only there one term and he became a federal judge.
peter navarro
That wasn't your fault, was it?
unidentified
No, no, no, no. He lost his seat from redistricting.
No, but then Reagan appointed him to a federal judgeship.
So, excellent congressman and have always been interested ever since.
peter navarro
You know what I love about your resume?
You met your wife.
unidentified
In college. That's right.
peter navarro
And you've been with her ever since.
unidentified
I'm very proud of the fact that I'm still married to my college girlfriend after 38 years.
peter navarro
That's her achievement in this day and age.
And she's sitting right here.
I hear she's the mastermind of your strategy in the land besides McLaughlin.
unidentified
But, you know. Without a doubt, my best asset.
And I'm glad to have her.
She's full-time with me on the campaign.
And she's an amazing blessing every single day.
peter navarro
Alright, let's listen to an ad that you ran and let you talk a little bit about your opponent.
Because this race is as much or more about her.
Absolutely. This is a referendum on Lois Frankel, so let's see what you got to say about it.
unidentified
I'm Dan Francis and I approve this message.
Lois Frankel's voting record puts migrants first and hard-working Americans last.
Lois Frankel voted against deporting illegal immigrants convicted of DUIs, sexual assault, and even opposed holding them accountable for harming law enforcement.
When Israel needed her support, Lois Frankel didn't bother to show up.
Frankel even voted to keep men in women's sports.
We've suffered enough.
Stop Lois Frankel.
peter navarro
She hits every point on the vote compass there.
Dan, tell us about Lois Frankel.
unidentified
Sure.
So first of all, you saw at the end of that clip, we created a micro site called fireloisfrankel.com where we've listed her top 10 worst votes.
It was a lot of work to put that together because there's about 80 or 90 terrible votes and we picked the worst and then built a TV commercial around the three or four worst ones which we just saw.
But she's voted every single time to keep illegal aliens in the country, even if they've been convicted of DUI, assaulting police officers, COVID fraud, Social Security fraud, nope, can't deport them.
She's a big supporter of men and women's sports, which is horrible.
And she's voted for the so-called Inflation Reduction Act, but she's one of the people that gave us the inflation we're having now.
And when I'm out talking with voters, they're horrified when they hear about all this.
peter navarro
And apparently, at least some of the voters know, because she's got an approval rating that's underwater.
It's under 50%, which is rare.
I still can't.
I mean, for the life of me, I still can't figure out Who in mainstream America supports anything that these woke politicians in D.C. do?
Run through that once more, the list of lowest Frankl's votes.
People in Congressional District 22 first explain what that encompasses, so we know.
unidentified
Sure. So the district is entirely within Palm Beach County, and it goes from the ocean to the Everglades, so it goes in pretty deep, and takes in a sliver of Boca Raton along the Delray border, and then it goes up, takes everything up to Wellington all the way to the west, and then over to downtown West Palm Beach and all of Palm Beach Island.
So it's 770,000 people.
So that's the district.
And yes, one of the reasons Lois Frankel survives is nobody knows who she is.
She keeps an incredibly low profile.
And when I'm out talking to voters, including Democrat voters, I'm very heavily focused talking to Democrats, it's incredible how few people know who she is and know nothing about her voting record.
So she's been surviving all these years because she has a D next to her name.
That worked when this was like a D plus 30 district.
It's not working anymore because it's now becoming a level playing field.
peter navarro
The D is for ducking you.
That's right. The D is for ducking you in the debates.
Lois Frankel, you are a coward!
You're a coward! You won't debate, but you were telling me how she debated you the last time he ran against her, and it was fascinating.
They separated you by a barrier.
And little did you know during that debate that she was allowed to do what?
unidentified
So we had one debate in 2022.
And what I didn't realize till afterwards is everything was scripted for her.
So during her opening statement, she read it from a script.
Same thing with the closing statement.
And then what I heard was when they ask a question, let's say on the environment, she says, hold on a moment.
She goes through a folder, reads a statement about the environment.
So she will not do unscripted, totally controlled events.
Who does that sound like, right?
peter navarro
Yeah, she must be Kamala's godmother or something like that.
unidentified
Well, there's more to it.
And what I've heard from many people that have gone to meetings with her is that she's not as sharp as she used to be.
In fact, she goes to meetings, can't remember the name of her team members there, forgets why she's there.
I've had a lot of people, quite frankly, tell me they think she's got dementia just as bad as Joe Biden.
And that's why she's hiding in Joe Biden's basement.
peter navarro
Well, you told me something off the air, which I was absolutely shocked by.
She is ducking you in this race.
That's right. She's not out there campaigning like you are knocking door to door.
And apparently she's not spending as much money as she has in this big treasure chest she has because, hey, posse, okay, listen to this.
When you leave Congress...
You can take that money with you, is that right?
unidentified
That's right. So she's the lowest Frankel retirement fund?
peter navarro
It might be. You're not going to accuse her of it, but I am, because that's exactly what I think she's doing.
unidentified
Well, let me tell you how that works.
So first of all, she might still spend it in the last few weeks, especially after this interview, she might spend a lot more.
peter navarro
Bring it on, Lois. You got nothing.
unidentified
But there's plenty of instances of if when someone retires and they still have money in the campaign kitty, they can do, say, for instance, form a not-for-profit and hire themselves as the executive director for a couple hundred thousand bucks a year.
There's plenty of precedent for that on both sides of the aisle, by the way.
peter navarro
Yeah, of course. That's the way the deep swamp works.
It's possible. You never get anything done.
Exactly. That's why the war room exists.
unidentified
It's possible that she's doing that.
We don't know that for sure, but it's quite possible.
peter navarro
But we do know that she's ducking.
Dan, just a few minutes left.
Give him your website, if you would.
We've got to help this guy with volunteers and raising some money.
These last three weeks are going to be critical.
This is a winnable race.
So let's get Dan's website up on the screen now.
And what do you got?
unidentified
So it's dan4usa.com.
That's the word for, F-O-R, dan4usa.com.
And from there, you can find everything you need.
There it is. Yep, it's up on the screen.
I see it. And the most important thing, of course, on any candidate's website, Is the Donate Now button.
So there's a big red Donate Now button toward the top.
This is a winnable race.
I can tell everyone, all my basic campaign costs are covered now.
Every dollar I raise goes right into my TV budget to put out commercials like the one you just saw.
So it's not too late to help me out there.
And obviously, if you're within the district, you can sign up for a yard sign.
You can volunteer to help out.
In fact, you don't have to live in the district to help me out.
One of the major things we're doing in the homestretch is calling low turnout Republicans to get them to vote.
And we have an app where you can do that anywhere in the country or anywhere in the world if you have Internet service.
So I've got, like, my brother in California, for example, is helping out with that.
So this is calling low turnout Republicans to tell them, we need you to get out this year.
What's the app? It's called I-360 Call.
And we also use I-360 Walk as the basis for my walk program, which is phenomenal because then we can create targeted groups.
And that's what I did in the primary, talking to Republican voters.
Now in the general, we're doing a very different mix.
It's a phenomenal app.
And they didn't pay me for this plug, but I've used them all, and it's the best, I-360.
peter navarro
All right. Got 60 seconds here.
Here's the thing. Mike Johnson, get off your ass.
Get down here. This is a winnable race.
If it comes down, it'd be horrible if we won the White House and the Senate, which we will win.
And then we lost the House because our life will be made miserable by those sons of bitches.
I've seen that movie before when Pelosi got the House in 2018.
If it's one vote away, Mike Johnson, you screwed up by not taking a race that is winnable.
This is winnable, Mike.
Call Mike Johnson.
Tell him. Dan Francis, Congressional District 22 in Florida.
Let's win this thing.
Dan, I wish you the best.
I know you're going to be working hard the last few weeks of this race.
You're going to go out there and knock on doors, knock on doors, knock on doors.
unidentified
We're going to win. We're going to win.
We have to win. We have to win and we're going to win.
peter navarro
All right. You are in the war room.
This is Ben's war room.
Ben's going to be with us now in less than 10 days.
And we'll be right back.
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rachel maddow
Text... On the current issue of Vanity Fair, reporter James Pogue has a profile of Trump's former campaign manager, Steve Bannon, who you may know is more influential than ever in Trump world and, by extension, in the Trump campaign, even as he awaits the end of his federal prison sentence right now.
But James Pope writes in Vanity Fair right now that if you have, you know, enjoyed what Steve Bannon has brought to Trumpist politics so far, right?
All that, you know, destroy the administrative state stuff, and we need a multipolar white world led by Russia, and take it as a badge of honor if you're called a racist, all that Bannon stuff.
If you've enjoyed that from Bannon over these last few years, then you will love what his priority is right now for Trump getting back into the White House for a second term.
The new plan, the new big idea we're getting from Bannon and his whole wing of the Trump movement, which includes J.D. Vance, the big new idea we're getting for the Trump second term is the, quote, abandonment of the dollar.
He wants to end the American currency.
He's working on, quote, the end of the dollar empire.
Well, that would be quite a business decision.
Who in the business world, who is making a business decision about this next election, thinks that the smart, business-minded way ahead is to drop the dollar as the currency, as the world's default trading currency?
Doesn't that sound like an idea to you?
peter navarro
Rachel Maddow, hear me, okay?
I'm talking to you, girl.
That was the dumbest take on the End of the Dollar Empire publication by Steve Bannon that you could possibly make.
And you're either dumb or you're an intentional propagandist.
The End of the Dollar Empire is coming about not because Steve Bannon wants it, but because you and your radical Democrats Are spending so much money that we don't have issuing so many bonds now at high interest rates that it's killing the dollar.
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have increased the deficit on their watch.
National debt by 25% in four years.
Going back to the days of George Washington.
In four years, they increased it by 25%.
Rachel? Little Econ 101.
I'm sure you never learned this.
You were studying French history in college.
unidentified
You dumb girl.
peter navarro
Dumb! The end of the dollar empire is coming because of you!
You! Who support Kamala Harris' tie-breaking votes on two of the biggest spending bills ever!
Do not take Steve Bannon's name in vain.
The man is in prison because you helped put him there.
For standing up for the Constitution and the doctrine of executive privilege.
There's a reason why he's behind bars during the campaign.
You put him there and now he's not here to defend himself and you're misinterpreting intentionally What he's talking about.
The end of the dollar empire is coming because of the radical policies that are destroying this country.
All right. Speaking of destroying this country, I hope the voters understand that.
Let's bring in the great Mark Mitchell here.
And he promised us on Monday that he has some new polls directly from the battleground states.
We'd love to know what the approval, disapproval rating of Rachel Maddow is in Magaland, but that's another story.
Mark, welcome, sir, to Steve Bannon's End of the Dollar Empire War Room, sir.
mark mitchell
I love you trying to talk logic with Rachel Maddow.
That's the equivalent of walking into some dark church service and trying to argue with the pastor.
Everybody's looking at you.
They just don't understand that.
It's a religious download they're getting, not necessarily facts and data.
But we have data.
We have four swing state polls out now this week.
Two more coming. Pennsylvania, Trump plus three.
North Carolina, Trump plus five.
I think those are really good results.
And it represents a pretty strong shift back to the right from our last state polling, which was September.
So this is definitely better than Trump.
We have Michigan and Wisconsin out too.
The crosstabs haven't been released yet.
But I can report here for the first time.
Michigan, we do have tied.
But Wisconsin, we have Trump plus two.
That's also a move, right?
You know, these all aren't gonna move in lockstep.
And again, we're talking about a three-point margin of error.
But I think directionally, Trump's doing better in the battleground states than he was in September.
Although what I expect we were seeing back then was a huge response bias from Kamala Harris's, I won't say great debate performance, but I guess I can say surprise debate performance because she hasn't really been able to replicate that right now with interviews that she's doing.
peter navarro
Well, the difference, Mark, I mean, let's be clear about the difference.
She went into that debate.
She took like four weeks off from the media and the campaign trail to rehearse her scripts.
And everything she said in that debate...
Was rehearsed and scripted.
She does that well.
But we learned as soon as she got out, in the interviews that followed, she was reading from the same scripts and basically revealed to the American people she can't think for herself whatsoever.
She's a product of Hollyweird and California teleprompters.
So, how does your results...
How do you match with the Quinnipiacs and the others that are kind of the propaganda polls that we see all the time?
What was the one that had Joe Biden up by 12 in Wisconsin before the election?
How do your results now match?
Can your...
just talk to me a little bit about that because are you kind of out of step with the rest of the herd or are they coming your way?
mark mitchell
No, I don't think we're out of step.
I think objectively looking at the polls, I think two things can be true.
One, that they're fake, but also that they are doing, I think, a little bit better job of being accurate, in my opinion, than they were the last time out.
Because right now, if you look at the national numbers, Harris is only up about one and a half points, and it's moving higher.
I think we're good to go.
But we all knew it wasn't going to be enough and she was going to be put exactly in this situation, which is that she has absolutely no substance.
So those polls are all moving back to the right now.
And just to name one of them, NBC put out a poll that showed the national popular vote tied.
They had Harris up five points just a month ago.
She didn't go from up five to tied.
They were lying back then.
It was plain for everybody to see looking at their cross tabs.
But on a state level, everybody's really tight.
I think people have accused the polling industry of what they call statistical herding, which is everybody's just ducking and making uncontroversial calls.
But Wisconsin, Harris is up only 0.3 right now.
And R plus two isn't in there.
And Quinnipiac, who, yeah, was one of the people that had some really wild calls last time around, has Trump plus two exactly where we are in Wisconsin.
Trafalgar's got Trump plus one.
New York Times, Siena's got Harris plus two, but I'm pretty sure we'll probably go in and see a problem with the recalled vote there.
And going to the other states, Pennsylvania and North Carolina look like obvious wins now because if there's any polling error at all to the left, then Trump's going to win by two, three, maybe even four points.
But we have Pennsylvania at plus three.
The spread is point three, but it's being dragged down by like a morning consult plus five for Harris.
That's never going to happen.
peter navarro
Mark, quick question here.
Compare the RealClearPolitics with the 538 aggregate.
Those are the two aggregate where they take everybody's polls, put them in a mixer, and kind of give an average.
Which one's more accurate, and what are they showing?
mark mitchell
I spend more time thinking about whether Concord grapes or muscadines are the best grapes than I do about 538, to be honest with you.
And since they kicked us out, I don't really go there.
But just looking, I mean, whatever.
They say their own pollster, ABC Polls, ABC, Washington Post, I think Ipsos, It's their number two pollster, and that's a company under the same corporate umbrella.
And they say New York Times Siena is the number one pollster.
Well, New York Times Siena just put out, I think, Trump plus four in Arizona.
And then they had another, I think they had Harris plus three or four in Pennsylvania, but it had an oversample of eight points of Biden supporters.
So it's really a massive Trump win, according to New York Times Siena.
But if you go to 538, I'm pretty sure what you're going to see here, I don't even know how to use this stupid site.
Who's ahead in the national polls?
Oh yeah, Harris.
They have Harris up 2.5 points in the national polls.
That's a point even more blue than the straight average on RealClearPolitics.
So this is just a propaganda outlet.
They're taking left-leaning polls and making them...
peter navarro
The problem with 538 is that they wait.
They put their thumb on the scale depending on what the result they want, right?
mark mitchell
They wait each point. Yeah, the idea of unskewing a poll...
Yeah, the idea of unskewing a poll kind of makes sense.
You say, oh, over time, this pollster has X amount of leftward bias.
Let's correct for it, and maybe we can be more accurate.
But the problem is, is that if you're an ideologue, if your entire future hinges on whether Trump wins or not, You're not going to be able to be honest with yourself, in my opinion, and it takes a lot of integrity, and I don't think anybody at ABC News 538 has integrity.
peter navarro
There, I said it. Who's correcting the correctors?
We've got 90 seconds left.
The thrust now of the Harris campaign is to go after Donald Trump's mental state and age and all that stuff.
Is that salient at all, and anybody's going to make a final decision, or is that their last gasp?
mark mitchell
I think it's desperation just as much as the courting black voters.
I mean, this is a presidential administration where 60 to 70 percent of people said that they saw Joe Biden's apparent mental decline and wanted him to take a cognitive test.
I mean, voters kind of fall prey to the laser pointer, but I don't think that much.
And now she's out there, like I said, desperately courting black voters.
But the writing has been on the wall for months.
We've put out poll after poll after poll showing Trump's doing better with black voters than ever before.
And I do think they have their MSNBC base locked in.
Think there's a lot of vote blue no matter who folks.
But none of the stuff she's doing, in my opinion, is really gonna be able to move the needle with independence.
And she's losing independence, just like the new Marist poll put out shows.
Now they oversampled them by five or six points.
But whatever, independents have shifted massively towards Trump.
What can she possibly do in three weeks to make up for it?
I think this is just one more thing that's gonna fail.
peter navarro
All right, Mark, how do the folks get in touch with you?
Where do they go, sir?
mark mitchell
Yeah, things are starting to heat up.
Rasmussen underscore poll at Twitter.
Mark underscore R underscore Mitchell at Twitter as well.
Or check out our short videos on YouTube at Rasmussen underscore poll.
peter navarro
All right, my brother. You're the man.
mark mitchell
All right. Thanks. Happy to be here.
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It's imperative. All right, brother.
Thank you for being here today.
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