Oct. 8, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people. | ||
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The people have had a belly full of it. | |
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| I've been covering the border for years. | ||
| And so I know this is not a problem that started with your administration. | ||
| Correct. But there was an historic flood of undocumented immigrants coming across the border the first three years of your administration. | ||
| As a matter of fact, arrivals quadrupled from the last year of President Trump. | ||
| Was it a mistake? | ||
| To loosen the immigration policies as much as you did. | ||
| It's a long-standing problem. | ||
| And solutions are at hand. | ||
| And from day one, literally, we have been offering solutions. | ||
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What I was asking was, was it a mistake to kind of allow that flood to happen in the first place? | |
| The policies that we have been proposing are about fixing a problem, not promoting a problem. | ||
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But the numbers did quadruple. | |
| And the numbers today, because of what we have done, we have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half. | ||
| We have cut the flow of fentanyl by half. | ||
| But we need Congress to be able to act to actually fix the problem. | ||
| Fixing the problem. Tuesday, 8th of October, Anno Domini, 2024. | ||
| Arnold here at the helm, filling in for Steve Bannon. | ||
| Just watching that short video there, it's absolutely clear, I think, objectively clear, there is something not right with that lady. | ||
| You know, whether she's been... | ||
| Before going on, the fact that she can't answer a question without leaving her pre-prepared sound bites in any direction, there is something not right with that lady, with that woman, and it's abundantly clear. | ||
| No wonder they're trying to keep her from having any in-depth interviews. | ||
| It will just become more and more apparent. | ||
| Todd Benzman, good morning. | ||
| Thanks for coming on to open the show with us today to talk about this 60 Minutes interview. | ||
| Look, I want to ask you something, okay? | ||
| Yesterday, in Axios, they had an article called How Harris is Getting Trumpy on Immigration, and it starts with this This sentence. | ||
| Donald Trump may lose the election, but Kamala Harris is largely conceding he has won the argument on the border. | ||
| What that means, what that doesn't mean, doesn't mean that the Democrats are becoming MAGA. It doesn't mean that they have any intention to do anything about the border. | ||
| What I think the article is suggesting is that the Democrats realise in their southern states they have a massive issue with credibility with the people and they're trying to mask things, obviously sort of throw responsibility for the crisis on the GOP. They realize that it's an issue and the American people aren't going to buy platitudes anymore. | ||
| Todd Benjamin, tell me though, if you wouldn't mind, Axios's point that – do you think Kamala is largely conceding that Trump has won the argument on the border first off? | ||
| Is Axios right with their analysis on that? | ||
| I've heard no language whatsoever, concession language from the Harris campaign at all. | ||
| I don't think they're conceding anything. | ||
| They're just trying to dodge bullets that are – they're kill shots really. | ||
| But listen, there's a Grand Canyon-sized credibility gap in what they're saying and their main campaign sloganeering. | ||
| Which is that on the one hand, they're saying if only we had this piece of legislation, this bipartisan piece of legislation, the Lankford bill that they keep talking about, we could fix this problem. | ||
| But then there she was right on 60 minutes saying we already reduced it by half how many were coming in, which is true. | ||
| They have done that without any legislation. | ||
| They just simply had Mexico Close down their southern border and trap all the immigrants down there and scoop them up on the north and ship them to the south and hold them down there in a Gaza Strip. | ||
| That's all they needed to do. | ||
| It was a White House fiat, a piece of diplomacy that did just the 50%. | ||
| Everything, and nobody's calling them on that. | ||
| Well, what do you mean you need this Lankford bill, but then you reduced it with a wave of the wand by 50%? | ||
| Nobody's saying any, nobody's calling them out on that. | ||
| The other thing I'd want to point out is that there is no mistake here. | ||
| There is no incompetence here. | ||
| That The Biden administration campaigned on opening the border. | ||
| They said that they were going to do exactly what they did. | ||
| The Harris first campaign when she ran for in the primaries in 2019-2020. | ||
| Had a black and white immigration platform that's still out there on the internet. | ||
| You can read it. | ||
| No deportation, no detention, amnesty for everybody, healthcare for everybody, everything for everybody who comes across the border, etc. | ||
| It's cruel and unusual to make them remain in Mexico or to do anything like that. | ||
| They were flat out what they were going to do and then did it. | ||
| Todd, I just want to synthesize what you're saying there to make sure I've got it right. | ||
| So the administration got these figures down from, as 60 Minutes mentioned, the quadruple numbers that had accelerated, exploded after the preceding Trump administration. | ||
| But then they then they got those figures down by half without needing any legislation | ||
| whatsoever, just simply using the powers that the federal government had anyway and pushing | ||
| it through by White House fiat. | ||
| So that you're saying, and this is important, that explodes. | ||
| The fact that they did that without any new legislation explodes, destroys the Democrats' | ||
| arguments that the huge numbers that are still there, twice that I guess then from from the | ||
| preceding Trump administration, that cannot be the fault of Congress because the White | ||
| House already demonstrated its ability to tackle the issue without any extra new legislation. | ||
| Is that your point? | ||
| That's exactly my point. | ||
| And the Trump administration did it before the Biden administration did it for the campaign. | ||
| By the way, I just want to point out that by the time the Biden-Harris administration got around to the Mexico crackdown We're good to go. | ||
| That they waited to do that for the campaign, for the optics of the campaign, not because it was the right thing to do or a good thing to do or that Americans in all these big cities were complaining and being driven to the brink of bankruptcy in their cities, but because it looked terrible to have Fox News drones flying over thousands and thousands of people coming through. | ||
| Now, one other thing I want to point out is that it's not just the Mexican crackdown deal from December of 2023. | ||
| It's also the flights program that they orchestrated where instead of people crossing illegally between ports of entry, they can get on a plane anywhere in the world and fly over the border right into US cities. | ||
| At least 650,000 came in that way. | ||
| And then another half a million on the CBP One app where they walk them over the bridges. | ||
| Combined, those things reduced the look. | ||
| But there's still 1.4 million people that hit those American cities that flew directly into them. | ||
| It wasn't Greg Abbott and his busing. | ||
| It was the Biden-Harris flights program and these other ones as well. | ||
| Harris has said publicly that she plans to double down on those programs if she wins election. | ||
| Well, you tell the cities of Denver, Chicago, Boston, Washington, and all the rest of them, Springfield, that, oh, well, they're still coming anyway. | ||
| They'll just come in and it's different other way where they don't get counted in the bad column. | ||
| And they're going to be just as pissed off. | ||
| It's the number of people that are being allowed in, not how they're getting in. | ||
| Absolutely. So your point here is that Axios is wrong, really. | ||
| There's no Trumpy emphasis on the positioning of how it's in this campaign. | ||
| Well, there is Trumpianness in the sense that the Harris-Biden administration tore a page from the Trump playbook about Mexico. | ||
| Trump invented that whole thing. | ||
| He had the Mexicans under a threat of 28% progressive trade tariffs. | ||
| If you don't block them at your southern border and do all you can to hem them in down there, we're going to start hitting all of your exports with tariffs. | ||
| And they did it. | ||
| The very first day of the Biden-Harris administration, they eliminated that threat of tariffs, asked the Mexicans to kindly do it. | ||
| But the Mexicans were like, no way, man, not anymore. | ||
| And they just let them all through. | ||
| So something happened in the last eight months where I don't know what the payoff was or the threat. | ||
| It's still a big state secret. | ||
| It's probably the biggest state secret that there is about the border. | ||
| What did the Harris-Biden administration offer or threaten the Mexicans to do at this time? | ||
| But that is a Trumpian policy. | ||
| They took it right from Trump's playbook on that one. | ||
| And it worked because it worked the first time. | ||
| It worked the second. It'll always work. | ||
| That will always work. | ||
| Bill Whittaker, the interviewer there in the 60 Minutes interview, asked Kamala Harris explicitly, he said, because she tried to evade it, what I was asking was, was it a mistake? | ||
| To kind of allow that flood to happen in the first place. | ||
| And she wasn't able to answer that question. | ||
| How do you think her inability to answer a simple question like that, in which the vast majority of people in all the key border states will know the answer because they're living with the consequences of that mistake. | ||
| How do you think they will view her inability to confront the reality of what her own administration has created? | ||
| Well, they say 60 Minutes is the most watched news program. | ||
| I don't know if it still is. | ||
| And Whitaker did an admirable job, I thought, in pressing her on this. | ||
| That was journalism. | ||
| That's what you're supposed to do. | ||
| But I think that the answer from Harris is predicated, once again, on her presumption that the American people are just stupid. | ||
| That they're not going to be able to divine that she's evading the question. | ||
| That she doesn't want to answer the question, and that'll fly. | ||
| And I don't think it does fly. | ||
| It might have flown two years ago, but now all of these cities, the people that live in them, know exactly what's going on. | ||
| It's all over their social media. | ||
| It's in their midst. | ||
| It's happening to their city budgets. | ||
| It's happening in front of their faces. | ||
| You cannot look away in all of these cities. | ||
| When they see what's happening around them in their cities and then watch her answer like that, I think that they understand. | ||
| I think that that is the answer that they need to have. | ||
| Her answer, her non-answer, is the answer, actually. | ||
| It's worth something. And just in the final minute, Todd, can you just give me your corresponding point of view with regards to the Trump-Banz campaign? | ||
| Do you think they're making enough of this issue? | ||
| I think they're doing better than they were. | ||
| Personally, I never wanted to hear about cats and dogs, and I wanted to hear more than just their emptying their insane asylums. | ||
| There's so much more that they could be talking about. | ||
| There's so much more good reporting about the flights program, about the CBP-1 program, about the fact that the Panamanian government has offered to close the Darien Gap and the American Biden-Harris administration promised to give them the money to do it and never sent the check. | ||
| It's a rare opportunity to close the Darien Gap in Panama, Colombia, and they're not doing it. | ||
| Trump should be out there stumping on that and saying, where's the money? | ||
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There are lots of different things that we said, yes. | |
| 100%. Todd, quickly, 20 seconds, where do people go to stay up with your writings and your analysis on social media? | ||
| Right. Well, I work for the Center for Immigration Studies, CIS.org. | ||
| You can find a lot of my material there. | ||
| You can also go to ToddBenzman.com to access all my social media and my free newsletter. | ||
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Thanks very much, Todd. Welcome back. | |
| Let's go straight to North Carolina now and Catherine Engelbrecht, who's out there. | ||
| Tell me, Catherine, I can see you're out physically, I can see by the background. | ||
| Tell me where you are at the moment and what the weather conditions are with you. | ||
| Right now I am in Hendersonville, which is where we have kind of made our base camp. | ||
| You can hear a lot of sirens in the background. | ||
| We will, immediately after this interview, start heading up into the mountains And continuing the work that we started yesterday with what we're specifically here for is to help with we have a Unique competency in citizen band radios that will help extend the signal of star links and so that is desperately needed in certain connection points. | ||
| So we're up here installing radios and boosting that signal. | ||
| But in addition, working through with leadership here on the ground, working through what's happening in North Carolina 11, which encompasses the most of the damaged areas, about 750,000 people total. | ||
| Catherine, what are you hearing on the ground? | ||
| Yesterday, a judge, a circuit judge in neighbouring South Carolina ordered the deadline for vote registration to be thrown back by eight days because of Hurricane Helene. | ||
| Tell me what the situation is in North Carolina. | ||
| Are you expecting, are the folk there expecting any disturbances with the electoral programme that had already been laid out? | ||
| It is possible that they extended that deadline here, and I haven't heard about it. | ||
| What I did hear yesterday was a bipartisan memo put out, and I heard about it, that said that all the offices are open. | ||
| We really see a stress And an intention towards making sure people feel confident that they are going to be able to cast their votes. | ||
| And that is the common refrain I heard yesterday when people, you know, some people knew who I was and they expressed that they wanted to be sure that they had an opportunity to cast their vote. | ||
| And so the latter part of my trip, these next few days, we'll be working with leadership to do all that we can to shore that up and make sure that every voter in Western North Carolina has that opportunity to have their vote count. | ||
| Catherine, could you just tell me a little bit about what those meetings will be like? | ||
| What sort of specific policies and provisions will you be pushing for? | ||
| Well, for me, first of all, we want to take heat of whatever leadership has done and just augment that help to support whatever that needs to look like. | ||
| I mean, it could be transportation. | ||
| It could just be outreach via fax and email. | ||
| To those places that are now getting communication. | ||
| It could be word of mouth. | ||
| And whatever unique tactics need to be employed, we're here to make sure that that happens and that we provide all the support they need to get the vote out. | ||
| So I'm feeling good about it. | ||
| The spirits are high here. | ||
| Americans working together. | ||
| Citizen helping citizen. | ||
| It's really an amazing thing to see. | ||
| And there's a Just a sense of patriotism that exudes morning till night, and our election's a big part of that. | ||
| Well, true, the vote is doing great work right across America in terms of election integrity. | ||
| North Carolina obviously is a key battleground state now. | ||
| So forgive me if I ask you, what is being done right now in terms of the electoral integrity issue to ensure that people are actually going to be able to vote? | ||
| In North Carolina, they're doing all they can to smooth out that process. | ||
| Interesting side note, when I first began to Discussing the status on the ground with leadership, I was told that they characterized RFK Jr. | ||
| as having saved their election. | ||
| And the reason that they said that was that because he needed to be pulled from the ballot, it delayed their process in printing ballots. | ||
| And had that not occurred, the ballots would have already been out. | ||
| The fact that it hadn't occurred yet and had caused a bit of a delay meant that the ballots were located somewhere that there was no damage to them. | ||
| And that was a great concern. | ||
| I mean, if the ballots are damaged, how are you going to make up that time? | ||
| It could be done, but that would have to be something straight away that you had to plan for. | ||
| So one less thing to be concerned about. | ||
| But the resilient attitude here, I mean, I really feel like these people would walk across broken glass to make sure that their vote counts and is counted. | ||
| And yeah, I mean, after what I've seen these last few days, I am confident that anything that Western North Carolina sets its mind to do, the people here can do it. | ||
| And there are people from all over the country helping as well. | ||
| So We're going to be okay here. | ||
| And then my next stop, I'm leaving from here and going up to Michigan, where we are working with Dropbox monitoring and citizens who are involved there. | ||
| And of course, that program is also happening in Wisconsin, where we'll be live streaming the videos. | ||
| So we have a lot going on. | ||
| Our app, Vote Alert, where people working in the elections or voters who have questions can contact us, toll-free 800 number to keep in touch. | ||
| And that's coming in handy now with people from these storm-ravaged areas reaching out. | ||
| Truth The Vote has a lot going on, but we are extremely optimistic about the pro-liberty voice that's coming through all of this. | ||
| You mentioned Michigan just now, Catherine. | ||
| We're going to actually be hearing from Ambassador Huckstra, the GOP chair there in Michigan, a little later on in the show. | ||
| But staying one moment, if I may, with North Carolina, and I suppose many people in the face of what is a national tragedy, right, of her contagion, Many people will be enthused and encouraged to hear that there is this bipartisan focus on ensuring that the elections go ahead and that they are fair. | ||
| However, just if I may channel Ronald Reagan's trust, but verify one slight moment. | ||
| Are you satisfied? Because your organisation is one of the key organisations in the country on voter integrity. | ||
| Are you Are you sitting here telling me that you're absolutely satisfied that everything that needs to be done to ensure the votes in North Carolina won't be corrupted has been done and is being done? | ||
| I think is being done is certainly a fair statement, and I'm looking forward to discussions over these next few days to really help get into the more granular detail of the process. | ||
| And anything that needs to be augmented or shored up to the extent that True the Vote can do it, we're here to do it. | ||
| But the willingness to work together and pull together in these times, though, is remarkable. | ||
| It's really the best of America and it is a privilege to be among the people here at this time. | ||
| Catherine Engelbrook, outstanding. | ||
| Thanks very much for coming on the show. | ||
| And I hope you, your family, stay safe in the coming days. | ||
| Thank you. In the meantime, assuming you're going to have social media connection. | ||
| Thanks so much. Thank you. | ||
| Catherine, I think we're losing her now. | ||
| We'll get her socials up a little later in the show. | ||
| I'll read those out myself. Let's move on now to the Supreme Court. | ||
| Josh Hammer, tell me, there were a couple of interesting articles up in Politico and the New York Times indicating that the Supreme Court could have a key role to play in the next administration. | ||
| And of course, behind that, therefore, is always the lurking question of potential new nominations to the Supreme Court. | ||
| Tell me a bit, why are these two august News organs on the left are starting to get concerned. | ||
| Yeah, Ben, always great to join you. | ||
| So this Politico piece is interesting because before it talks about the future of the Supreme Court, the main focus of this article from Josh Gerstein, who's one of their main liberal journalists at Politico, Josh Gerstein, was actually the editor, reporter who was behind the Dobbs abortion leak going back to May of 2022. | ||
| He's a very well-sourced And I guess Beltway-connected DC insider when it comes to all things legal-related. | ||
| And he wrote a very lengthy piece, perhaps an unusually lengthy piece for Political Magazine, basically laying out eight different ways that the US Supreme Court could potentially come back into the center of this election cycle, let alone what might happen if Donald Trump, God willing, retakes the White House come January 2025. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, first, let's zoom out a little bit here. | ||
| Ben, you have a lot of people on the left that are already upset over the fact that the Supreme Court has gotten involved in certain ways in the 2024 election. | ||
| So let's zoom out and just set the context here. | ||
| And what I mean by that... That you've had at least three cases. | ||
| You had the Colorado case. | ||
| That was the case Trump versus Anderson, where they tried to remove him from the ballot. | ||
| You have the Trump immunity case. | ||
| That was Trump versus the United States. | ||
| Then you have the Fisher case pertaining to the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, where they were trying to invoke this corporate fraud statute to prosecute J6ers. | ||
| A lot of liberals behind the scenes, not so behind the scenes actually, have been freaking out that the Supreme Court has waded into these presidential election-affecting issues. | ||
| And the basic response to that is, I mean, you guys brought this on yourselves. | ||
| Did you not? I mean, did you really not think, for example, that when you tried to deprive Donald Trump of ballot access in Colorado under a ridiculous bespoke 14th Amendment Section 3 Insurrection Clause Theory. | ||
| Did you really not think that the Supreme Court was going to get involved in that? | ||
| Same thing with the unprecedented lawfare from so-called special counsel Jack Smith. | ||
| I love calling him so-called special counsel Jack Smith because as Judge Aileen Cannon in Florida held, he's actually been illegitimately appointed. | ||
| He's not a real special counsel. | ||
| But when he started doing his thing, did you guys really not think that the Supreme Court was going to get involved and try to establish some limits on presidential immunity here? | ||
| So now they have this whole framing that, okay, SCOTUS has really affected the election already. | ||
| How many additional ways can they possibly get involved here? | ||
| And, you know, look, I guess my response to that is SCOTUS, from my perspective, Ben, actually did not properly get involved in the contested aftermath of the 2020 election. | ||
| They failed to grant cert. | ||
| They failed to hear some very important cases out of Pennsylvania in particular. | ||
| The big question is, will they do so now? | ||
| Josh, stand by. | ||
| I'll be back in two minutes. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| Welcome back. | ||
| Josh Hammer, before you carry on with what you're saying, just a quick question. | ||
| Did you see the news that the Supreme Court declined to intervene on this case regarding X and these non-disclosures, these enforced non-disclosures on behalf of the social media platforms that they're not allowed to alert clients when there's an order released to share data? | ||
| Did you see that? Ben, in all honesty, I've not had a chance to review that yet. | ||
| But look, I'm not surprised. | ||
| I mean, when we look at what the Supreme Court did in the Murphy v. | ||
| Missouri case just a couple months ago where they essentially punted, Murphy v. | ||
| Missouri was the case where you saw big government and big tech being in just total and complete collusion to suppress so-called distant voices when it came to the Hunter Biden laptop story, when it came to COVID-19, masking, vaxxing, all of the above there. | ||
| They also effectively punted on two excellent laws that were passed by the states of Florida and Texas when it came to trying to apply common carrier regulation against common sense non-discrimination principles. | ||
| So the Supreme Court unfortunately has basically done big tech's bidding for a while, Ben. | ||
| So I'm hardly surprised that that string of losses for we the people and that string of victories for big tech continues unabated it seems. | ||
| I flag it up because it seems to me to be illustrative on the general theme of what you've been saying already about some of these issues, as you say, you use these words literally, are being punted to a future case. | ||
| I saw that X's lawyers had said that this issue is simply not going to go away and it will require the Supreme Court to intervene at some point, even if not on this issue. | ||
| This issue was about President Trump himself and Jack Smith. | ||
| What was your formulation for Jack Smith? | ||
| The supposed special prosecutor who'd gone in with a court order to get some of President Trump's private messages, his DMs, and to use these in the case that he's constructed Trump's And X, by the way, X themselves have appealed this because they said this is all part of the fact that the government right now, the feds, can go to the social media platforms with an order that prevents users from knowing that the government has been snooping through your messages. | ||
| There are clear privacy issues here. | ||
| And X's lawyers said this issue is not going to go away at some point. | ||
| The Supreme The court will need to intervene even if it doesn't want to intervene on this specific case. | ||
| Tell me, back onto the theme of what you're talking about, with regards to the forthcoming administration, are we expecting any judicial appointments being made to the Supreme Court over the next four years? | ||
| Yeah, I think that there is a very high likelihood that there will be personnel changes at the nation's highest core, frankly, regardless of who wins the presidency. | ||
| But especially if Donald Trump wins the presidency, I think you're looking at the likely retirements, if I had to guess, of Justice Clarence Thomas and or Sam Melita, which— On the one hand, it's scary because those are our two best justices pretty much by far, in my personal opinion. But they nonetheless are now getting up there in age, and it makes sense that they would want to retire under a sympathetic administration. | ||
| And the positive side of the ledger is that there's really no shortage. | ||
| There's no shortage of younger judges who are faithful to the Constitution and perhaps just as important, who are brave and courageous and willing and indeed outright eager to do the right thing. | ||
| You know, I'll put in a shameless plug for my own former boss. | ||
| So I actually clerked on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, the Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi appellate court. | ||
| And I was one of the first four law clerks for Judge Jim Ho, who was one of President Donald Trump's first Fifth Circuit appointees. | ||
| Judge Ho has been an absolute rock star on the Fifth Circuit. | ||
| He has written any number of prolific opinions, vindicating the rights of Texas to secure its borders. | ||
| I mean, I could go on and on here. | ||
| But Judge Ho is not an anomaly. | ||
| There's actually a great number of lower court judges who were nominated and confirmed by President Trump and, to his credit, Mitch McConnell and the Senate Republicans back during the Trump administration. | ||
| So there is a great farm team right now, potential judges who might be elevated to the nation's highest court. | ||
| And, you know, who knows? You know, in addition to Justices Alito and or Thomas, maybe we'll get lucky. | ||
| You know, maybe Chief Justice John Roberts, who frankly doesn't seem to like his job a whole lot these days. | ||
| I mean, maybe he will kind of, you know, have one of those, you know, wake up moments and decide that he wants to hang up the spikes, so to speak, as well. | ||
| That would be terrific because if we can replace Roberts with a young, eager and courageous conservative on the court, that would be a clear net improvement on SCOTUS. And on the other side of the divide, of course, Josh, if the Democrats win, they get to nominate nine new justices in accordance with Kamala Harris' desire to increase, the Democrats' desire generally to increase the bench, the Supreme Court, to 18 justices. | ||
| So they'll be making appointments one after the other. | ||
| Josh, before you go, your social media contacts, your superb podcast, where do people go to keep track with your output? | ||
| Yeah, thanks so much, Ben. | ||
| So I'm on xjosh__hammer. | ||
| Instagram is joshbhammer. | ||
| I host two shows, The Josh Hammer Show and America on Trial with Josh Hammer, wherever you get your podcasts. | ||
| Then I'm also Senior Counsel for the Article 3 Project. | ||
| We're up at article3project.org. | ||
| Superb. Many thanks for coming on the show. | ||
| Catch up again with you soon. God bless. | ||
| Now joined down the line by Ambassador Pete Hoekstra, the Chair of the Michigan GOP. Ambassador Hoekstra, I gather you're en route to go and hear J.D. Vance in your state. | ||
| But before you tell me about that, about what you're expecting to hear, tell me about this recent legal victory that Michigan has clocked up with regards to the postal ballots. | ||
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Yeah, it wasn't, excuse me, it wasn't that long ago that our Secretary of State said, you know, and told, instructed our clerks around the state saying, you know, when you get absentee ballots back, just assume that the ballot is legitimate. | |
| You don't really need to check the signature with the signatures that you have on file to validate the abs, just assume that It is a valid ballot. | ||
| Well, of course, that's not in compliance with the law. | ||
| The law says very clearly as a county clerk, as a clerk in the state of Michigan, you have a responsibility when an absentee ballot comes in that you take a look at the signature on the ballot and that you verify it with the signature that you have on file. | ||
| And so we took our Secretary of State to court, and not surprisingly, the court ruled, yep, the Secretary of State and the clerks need to follow the letter of the law, and they have to verify the signature. | ||
| So that was a big win for the Republican National Committee and the state party, the ones that had brought suit against Jocelyn Benson. | ||
| It was fantastic news and I congratulate all of you there in Michigan and the RNC for clocking it up. | ||
| I wonder whether it will have knock-on effects in other states that have similarly flexible rules, guidelines when it comes to ballot verification. | ||
| Tell me then, so J.D. Vance is in Michigan. | ||
| Tell me about the crowds that are building up and the momentum. | ||
| What are you expecting to hear from him today? | ||
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Well, I mean, you know, we basically see J.D. Vance or Donald Trump three times per week here in the state of Michigan. | |
| This is a little bit of an off week. | ||
| They're only coming here... | ||
| You know, J.D. has the event today. | ||
| Donald Trump will be speaking to the Detroit Economic Club on Thursday. | ||
| But, you know, it's a... | ||
| Hey, Michigan is the battleground state, and we're thrilled... | ||
| And what J.D. Vance and Donald Trump both do is they come here and they talk about the economic future of Michigan and the economic future for Michiganders. | ||
| And they talk about how we're going to get inflation under control, how we're going to grow this economy, how we are going to rebuild the auto industry here in Michigan, not by partnering with China, but by investing in our auto workers and our We're going to let Michiganders and the rest of America choose what kind of car they want to buy, not telling them you've got to buy an electric vehicle that is not ready for prime time. | ||
| Voters in Michigan are resonating. | ||
| We're connecting with Union workers. | ||
| We're connecting with more black voters. | ||
| We're connecting with more ethnic voters. | ||
| We're building a lot of momentum, and I'm very, very optimistic that Michigan is going to be in the Republican column when we're done counting votes on November 5th. | ||
| Well, there are 15 Electoral College votes in play here in Michigan. | ||
| Those are going to be pretty important. | ||
| Tell me that the mainstream media is giving indications that the magic from the Trump campaign has gone. | ||
| The crowds at the rallies are diminishing. | ||
| Is this your personal experience of what you're seeing, especially in a key battleground state like Michigan? | ||
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No, I mean, you know, I try to... | |
| Welcome the president or J.D. Vance at every event that they have, whether it's a rally or some other format. | ||
| The enthusiasm is there. | ||
| The lines are there. | ||
| You know, people, when they go to a Trump rally or a J.D. Vance rally, it's clear they're making a commitment for the day. | ||
| You know, they'll show up three to four hours before the event begins. | ||
| They go in. | ||
| They'll be in the venue for probably an hour, hour and a half. | ||
| Then there will be a pre-program. | ||
| There will be another half-hour wait. | ||
| And then the principal, whether it's J.D. or the president, will come out and will typically talk with the audience for, you know, an hour, 70 minutes. | ||
| J.D. will typically engage with the media. | ||
| He'll talk with the audience for, you know, 30 minutes. | ||
| And then he'll say, okay, now we're going to take questions from the local media. | ||
| And the crowd loves it. | ||
| All right? Because it gives them an opportunity to express their feelings about certain media outlets and networks. | ||
| And so, you know, if a hostile network announces themselves and says, we've got a question, they receive the appropriate greeting. | ||
| If it's a more friendly network or whatever, they'll receive a different type of greeting. | ||
| And the crowd really loves to be involved in that give and take between J.D. Vance and the reporters. | ||
| Ambassador Hockstruck, we've got about a minute left. | ||
| I know that early voting begins on the 25th of this month. | ||
| Could you just give me a quick word what you want, what you expect supporters to do who are following the war? | ||
| What can they do to help in the remaining couple of weeks of this campaign? | ||
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Well, right now, Michiganders are already voting. | |
| My wife and I, we voted yesterday. | ||
| We had absentee ballots. | ||
| The early voting, you're right, begins later this month. | ||
| What we want, we want people to vote early. | ||
| We want them to go vote, and then we want them to go out and hustle their neighbors and friends to make sure that they go vote. | ||
| We've got a lot of Folks in Michigan that we think are prime Trump opportunities who are not registered, whether it's people of faith, whether it's gun owners or those types of things, you know, register to vote. | ||
| Get out to vote and get your friends. | ||
| And we've got a very, very active campaign with the Trump team, the Michigan Republican Party, other organizations right now chasing down votes and getting people to vote and to vote early. | ||
| Perfect. Ambassador Hawks, stay on the line. Just we'll close this hit off in this short break. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| Welcome back to Ambassador Hux. | ||
| Where do people go in Michigan right now if they want to attend the rally with JD later on today? | ||
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Well, actually, they can show up at the event. | |
| They go through the metal detectors. | ||
| It's at Eastern Market in downtown Detroit. | ||
| I think the gates are probably opening right around 11, 1130. | ||
| The event, JD is expected to speak at around 2 o'clock, so they're welcome to come to the event. | ||
| They don't even have to register. | ||
| They can come in. | ||
| And that venue once again in Detroit, where is it? | ||
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Ambassador? | |
| I just lost you for a minute. | ||
| I didn't hear the question. I'm sorry, Ben. | ||
| The venue once again in Detroit, where is it? | ||
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It's Eastern Market. | |
| Eastern Market. Perfect. | ||
| And before you go, Ambassador, where do people go to stay in touch with your own output on social media? | ||
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They go right to the MIGOP. They can go to Michigan Republican Party and they can find out about all of our events and those types of things on that location. | |
| They can sign up for our, you know, text messages and emails because You know, Donald Trump and J.D. Vance have been here multiple times, and we expect to see them here every week between now and Election Day, and we'd love to have folks turn out and come and give the President and J.D. a warm welcome, a warm Michigan welcome. | ||
| So, yes, they can sign up on our website. | ||
| Perfect. Ambassador Hogsworth, thanks very much. | ||
| Hope you have a great rally there later today, and catch up again with you soon. | ||
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We all have a great afternoon. | |
| Hey, thank you. Thank you. | ||
| God bless for now. Okay, so Jenny Beth Martin, the founder, president of Tea Party Patriots, joins us now. | ||
| Jenny Beth, I can't keep up with where you are. | ||
| I think you're in Wisconsin right now. | ||
| But you were telling me you're going to be in Michigan, you're going to Nevada, you're going to North Carolina if you can. | ||
| Tell me what you're finding out on the ground, what the momentum is like, what the sentiment is like. | ||
| And then I want to ask you once again about this incredible new app that you've developed. | ||
| I think it could be a game changer. | ||
| Well, thank you so much for having me on, Ben. | ||
| And I've been to Arizona, also to Montana, then to Pennsylvania and Michigan last week. | ||
| Today I'm in Wisconsin. | ||
| We were going to be in North Carolina later this week, but we've put that on hold because of What's going on with the hurricane. | ||
| Next week we should be in Nevada and we're hoping so to get to North Carolina before the end of the election. | ||
| And then of course our office is in Georgia. | ||
| I'm meeting with grassroots people and I'm rolling out the app, which I will talk to you about in a minute. | ||
| But what I'm seeing is that there is a lot of momentum and a lot of support for Donald Trump around all of these states. | ||
| And in Arizona, I saw just boatloads of Trump support and yard signs and other items, just like as you're driving by, when you're listening to people talk in restaurants and hotels and other places. | ||
| I saw that same kind of thing in Pennsylvania. | ||
| But as we get into the bigger cities, like inside of Pittsburgh, inside of Philadelphia, there is definitely support for Kamala Harris in the bigger cities. | ||
| In Detroit, they are so enthusiastic about Donald Trump and they are working hard to register people to vote. | ||
| The enthusiasm is almost contagious because people are so excited about the opportunity that they have in Michigan. | ||
| Some of the states are going to be a little bit easier probably for Donald Trump to win than others. | ||
| But it's not going to be a cakewalk in any of these states. | ||
| The country is still very sharply divided. | ||
| And there are people who will vote Republican just because it's a Republican and people who will vote Democrat. | ||
| Just because it's Democrat. | ||
| We saw that with Joe Biden. | ||
| We saw that with Katie Hobbs in Arizona two years ago. | ||
| And we're seeing that again right now with Kamala Harris. | ||
| The Democrats just want a person — it doesn't even really matter what they say or what they stand for — with a lot of Democrat voters. | ||
| So that means we have to do every single thing that we can. | ||
| Where voter registration is still open to register people to vote. | ||
| Mail-in ballots are going out pretty much everywhere at this point. | ||
| So people who've requested mail-in ballots, it's our job to make sure they've received those ballots and then that they are actually voting and returning their ballots. | ||
| And then as early voting starts, it begins tomorrow in Arizona, next Tuesday in Georgia. | ||
| Later in the week, next week, it moves to North Carolina. | ||
| I've got a list in front of me. | ||
| North Carolina is the 17th. | ||
| Nevada is the 19th of October. | ||
| And then the 22nd is October. | ||
| Wisconsin and the 26th is Michigan. | ||
| So people who want to vote early in person, do everything you can to get them to go ahead and vote early. | ||
| Vote on that first day. | ||
| What we don't want is the kind of problems that Arizona had last year on election day | ||
| that wound up resulting in long lines and some people leaving. | ||
| So we just need to make sure people are voting, that Trump supporters are voting, and that | ||
| everyone that we know who are our friends and family are voting. | ||
| And then if you are in a swing state or willing to drive to a swing state or fly to a swing | ||
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| a Trump campaign, My Super PAC, Tea Party, Patriot Citizens Fund, Turning Point Action, | ||
| America First Works, Heritage Sentinels. | ||
| There are people out walking door to door in all of these states. | ||
| And it's important that we're doing everything we can to go chase these votes and make sure people vote. | ||
| Jenny Bet, hold on after this short break and tell us about the new app that you've developed. | ||
| I just want to quickly, in the final seconds, want to say that the betting markets are confirming everything that you've just said. | ||
| Donald Trump is now five points ahead of Kamala Harris on plenty of markets, which is a fantastic | ||
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