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WarRoom Battleground EP 622: AI, Mass Immigration, and the Scourge of "Disinformation"
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room Battleground.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Artificial intelligence will be the central element of change in the world.
It must be available to all countries of the world.
And what role will technology, particularly generative AI, have in fostering human development or in driving us further apart?
Today, I'm sitting down with the man tasked with leading the United Nations through all of this, Secretary General Antonio Guterres.
In 2021, Secretary General Guterres called for a global digital compact to regulate AI, fight misinformation, and connect the entire world to the internet.
Last year, the United Nations convened a group of experts, full disclosure, I'm one of them, to make recommendations for what the compact should include.
If countries agree, it will be adopted at the summit of the future.
I think the most important idea when you are, as I am, in the United Nations, is to make people understand that we need to live in a rules-based world.
We have the values of the Charter, but we need to have international law, and people need to respect international law, and international humanitarian law.
And there must be accountability.
And the other risk is that a small group of developed countries consider that artificial intelligence is their business, and that the majority of the countries of the world have nothing to do with it.
And that would be totally unacceptable, because artificial intelligence is the opportunity of our generation.
But it is an existential threat.
And to be an opportunity of our generation, it must be available to all countries of the world and to all areas of the world population.
Co-authors.
And I think that it's very, very important that we be prepared for a variety of threats.
Those threats could include deepfakes of election officials, of candidates like yourselves, and also deepfakes that present election apparatus.
Yes, in them that indicate that there was tampering with physical objects associated with the election.
In two bills that I mentioned earlier that I worked on in California that are currently awaiting signature, fingers crossed, by Governor Newsom, Assembly Bill 2655 by Mark Berman and Assembly Bill 2839 by Gail Pellerin, those would actually have serious consequences so that if someone posted those types of election deepfakes, they could be removed, that platforms would be required to remove them.
Yeah, well, our bill allows for them.
Many of them are actually supporting this bill because it makes it clear.
The platforms are that they would have to take it down, but it also puts liability on the people that put those up.
Yeah.
Potential liability.
joe allen
Good evening.
It is Thursday, September 26th in the year of our Lord.
2024.
I am Joe Allen, sitting in for Stephen K. Bannon, who is still in prison unjustly.
We just heard from Secretary General of the UN, Antonio Gutierrez, talking about the future of AI.
AI is going to change everything.
It's going to send robots to your house and kick in your door and drag you to the gulag.
Half kidding.
What will undoubtedly happen with this AI revolution, what is already happening, is a massive psychological shift that's going to have a lot of different elements.
The first being simply the understanding, publicly accepted, that artificial intelligence is a source of authority.
The second is going to be the rapid proliferation of AI-generated content, including deepfakes.
Now, if you've been following The War Room or any other major news outlet, you know that the Global Digital Compact was adopted by the UN.
And a big focus of the Global Digital Compact is AI-generated deepfakes, misinformation, and disinformation.
What that means is that this international body will seek to use its power, use its sway, to Either punish or in some ways, eliminate by way of censorship, anything considered to be mis and disinformation, including deep fakes.
Now I want to put two things out there.
You already know this, but I want you to be certain of this.
Number one, I want Trump to win.
In fact, I need Trump to win because I want the borders closed.
I want us out of foreign wars, and I want the entirety of the DEI structure to be dismantled.
And if we don't have a country, if legacy Americans don't have a country to call our own, then there's not going to be any arguing about artificial intelligence or any of these other matters.
We are simply going to be subject to the phonies on the other side.
On the other hand, We have a major problem and that is that the MAGA movement has already been infected by the scourge of disinformation.
And I'm not trying to be the disinformation police.
In fact, I don't want to be any sort of hall monitor, but we are seeing the effects of this already.
If Denver could just throw up image one really quickly.
And I'm not trying to give Trump a hard time, or anyone who may be running his social media account, but we see here a silly, maybe AI-generated, maybe Photoshopped deepfake of Kamala Harris with P. Diddy, the notorious sex trafficker.
But anyone who has been following the media knows that is not, in fact, a picture of Kamala with P. Diddy.
That was Montel Williams, the one-time pimp And so, by sharing this, I get it, it's funny, perhaps.
Perhaps he or whoever ran his social media account thought it was real.
But by sharing this, we go deeper and deeper into the waters of deepfakes not only being in some ways normalized or misconceptions being spread among our movement, But also the possibility that you now have more justification to bring down the full weight of the law, not just on deepfakes, but, and not just on disinformation, but on valid information, on valid dissent.
And if Denver would just throw up image two, just to give you one more example of big time phonies.
Here we have Kamala Harris with Jeffrey Epstein.
But of course, the real photo was not Harris with Epstein.
The real photo was Harris and her husband.
So, just, this is my plea to you, War Room Posse.
Remain vigilant.
Keep your wits about you.
Don't spread this.
And if you see it, you don't have to be sanctimonious about it.
You don't have to call people morons like I do.
Don't follow my example on that.
Just simply avoid being a moron, and hopefully we save the country.
Hopefully we have a nation to argue over such issues as to whether or not artificial intelligence should be the highest authority of the land to which we shall all bend our knees.
The answer, of course, is a resounding no from me.
But speaking of big time phonies that are not artificially generated, if Denver would just roll The second clip, I want to bring in the great Johnny Vedmore of NewsPaste.
But first, let's get a little taste of his subject matter, the intellectual dark web founder, Eric Weinstein.
unidentified
People that are struggling with, that are almost like challenged the norms of social and political discourse from all different angles.
eric weinstein
Right.
unidentified
What do you think is the state of the IDW?
What do you think is its future?
eric weinstein
Is it a protocol?
Is it a collection of people featured in an article?
What I learned very clearly is that there's a tremendous desire in the internet age to pin people down.
What do you say?
Who's in it?
What are the criterion?
I resisted saying who was in it.
I resisted saying what it was.
It does not appear that we found a way to grow anything organic and good and decent that we need right now.
You know, in large measure, we didn't represent an institutional base and therefore it wasn't maximally important that we look at our own hypocrisy because we weren't on the institutional spectrum.
ben shapiro
So when it comes to that issue, so let's talk about high-skilled immigration for a second, because we may have a difference of opinion on this.
I've always been an advocate for high-skilled immigration.
You obviously oppose high-skilled immigration, at least in certain sectors.
What is the downside of high-skilled immigration?
Is it just the people are being promised jobs that aren't materializing in the United States, or is there a net detriment to the United States with people bringing in high-skilled immigrants to fill jobs in sectors where they want to lower the price?
eric weinstein
I mean, first of all, I don't even know where to begin.
A certain amount of high-skilled immigration has always been present, and we do benefit from getting the absolute top talent in the world, but that's not really what we're looking at.
What we're looking at is a bunch of systems that depress the market so that we lose top talent that doesn't choose to go into science and engineering, but goes into investment banking or management consulting or some other sector because these salaries are so low.
It means that a lot of our Technical edge which we use to power our own economy and our own defense structure finds its way to the four or five countries in Asia which supply us with most of the cryptic labor that we call graduate study but is in fact a labor market to staff the lab.
joe allen
There you have it, some bold words from Eric Weinstein, the man who coined Intellectual Dark Web, the IDW, or Intellectual Dork Web.
I want to bring in the Buckwild Welshman, Johnny Vedmore.
I've admired his work for a long time.
And he has written many, many things.
He's a newshound like no other.
He knows how to find the root of any story.
His piece on Klaus Schwab was just a landmark piece of journalism.
He's got a new piece up at his site, NewsPaste.
On Eric Weinstein, Johnny, tell us what's the title of the piece and what is this about?
Is Eric Weinstein, has he had a change of heart since his previous position on immigration or is he just squirting squid ink in our faces?
johnny vedmore
I think squid ink.
I can tell you that the piece is called Eric R. Weinstein's Great Replacement.
And that might be a bit tongue in cheek for a lot of people, you know, the idea of the Great Replacement being a conspiracy theory nowadays is pushed upon people.
But it actually has a root, an origin, and I wasn't expecting to discover what was really going on there or find anything linking a nefarious plan of the past.
But something seemed to align, stars seemed to align.
Someone wanted to know about Eric Weinstein's time at the UN, which I discovered when Actually, investigating the intellectual dark web at the start.
At the start of the intellectual dark web, I found them all very interesting.
I was a big fan of Jordan B. Peterson.
I think he was a very interesting person.
You know, a lot of his lectures, especially his Bible lectures, resonated with me and I enjoyed listening to him very much.
And the various members, I was listening to the Joe Rogan podcast and all of this.
And Brett and Eric Weinstein were extremely interesting to me as part of this unit.
So I started investigating each part of this unit.
I started looking into Ben Shapiro, the king of whataboutism.
And I think Eric Weinstein is king of aboutfacism.
He turned around galore.
I started to be suspicious that he wasn't being completely honest with everything he said.
I watched nearly everything he was putting out.
And I started to get an idea that, oh, this guy isn't completely honest.
And this was about 2019, 2020.
And I looked back and I discovered an old archived version of his site, which said that he had once worked for the UN.
And I found that very interesting.
You know, I thought, what was his time working for the UN like?
One of the things that triggered me about Eric Weinstein was the fact that he had mentioned that he had met Jeffrey Epstein once, but I also knew he was part of EDGE.
And EDGE was completely funded by Jeffrey Epstein at this point, and Jeffrey Epstein was at nearly every EDGE conference.
So that also made me doubt that he was quite telling the truth.
But this only really materialized, this article I've written for Newspace, the the Eric R. Weinstein straight replacement only really materialised yesterday, when someone asked me, what was he doing at the UN?
And I thought, you know, I never I never actually delved into that, because I was too busy with other investigations.
So I went back into the archives, and I had a little look around.
And I tried to see if I could find anything.
And I was in shock.
I was completely blown away because his website, once upon a time, ericweinstein.org, hyphen.org, is on the archive, the Wayback Machine, archive.org, and it included a PDF, and the PDF was the PDF he had written, Uh as part of a UN agenda you see the United Nations had the international labor organization set up in Geneva which had the migrant division and really it was looking at how to bring in migrants uh low skilled migrants not not high skilled migrants I mean what he was talking about there is bringing in the best of the best what we're talking about is him bringing in just any
anybody. What we see today, the massive amount of people coming across the border and his report
for the UN, which was this UN unit was headed up by Manola Abella, who he's been involved with the
World Bank, World Economic Forum, University of Oxford always triggers a little bit suspicion
for me and others.
And really what it did was it mapped out the road to what we see today, the borders being dropped, what would happen when all of these unskilled migrants came flooding across the border and what would happen to America and to American workforce and how, more importantly, how the native workers would react and how they would be affected.
And basically he puts forward the agenda of the native workers.
Well, they will not support programs which lower their total incomes.
So they're not in the right anyway.
They don't know what they're doing.
So we may as well do this because eventually the end game is that their wages will rise.
And in a sense, it's all about redistribution of income and redistribution of wealth, which sounds a little bit Marxist, of course.
And the report is fascinating.
I wrote this article and I tried to use as many quotes from the report itself so people understand that I'm not just trying to hype a piece up.
I'm not sensationalizing what was written.
Eric Weinstein was, you know, he was an important part in developing the UN migrant strategy, which said, bring them in, bring them across the border.
It does not matter who they are, how skilled they are, get them in there.
It will lower the wages of the native workers.
It will lower the quality of life for native workers.
Americans, British, we're all, we've got the same problem at the moment.
Our problem is we've got loads of people coming into the countries and there's not enough jobs around and everything's being redistributed and lots of people see it as a great replacement.
I've called it more of a great synthesis.
They're seeing that they need to synthesize us all together.
partially because they believe that we're all the same when we're not.
It loses our cultures, it loses our identities, it loses a lot.
So this article really looks at Eric Weinstein, what he was doing between 2000 and 2002 for the UN, and this document which is available to read within the article.
You can go and look at it yourself and it is shocking.
Once I've showed people A lot of people's reactions were just, oh my God, what is that?
That is not what I expected him to be saying.
And I don't think he's done a U-turn.
I think this is what he really believes in.
joe allen
You know, it's impossible really to delve into a man's heart and assess his motives, but I do think that if he has not owned up to his own role in facilitating and recommending this disastrous policy, policies which, by the way, as any War Room listener knows, the UN has facilitated so much of this, and NGOs affiliated with the UN have facilitated so much of this.
And you look at what Weinstein was recommending in 2001-2002 versus his now, like he's being elevated as this leader, this defender of national borders.
It really does fit a pattern in the so-called intellectual dark web.
You have, you know, everyone loves Jordan Peterson, I get it.
But, you know, Peterson went from an advocate for, you know, a return to religious tradition and a return to gender norms to now this kind of school marm.
Who is calling for anonymity to be just completely banned on the internet so that the trolls that dog him will be brought to justice.
You hear him oftentimes now just, you know, swinging on the jock of Elon Musk and anything Elon Musk says, he's going to chime in.
Oh, that's great, Elon Musk.
We really appreciate your input and your leadership.
You know, this was a guy who built a career criticizing Ray Kurzweil and his notion of the singularity.
You see the same with James Lindsay, one-time hardcore atheist, to a really astute critic of so-called woke culture, to now, in my view, kind of manipulating his Christian audiences with boogeyman scare words like Gnosticism, Gnostic, Hegelian Marxism.
There seems to be some cynicism behind all this.
So without necessarily imbuing or trying to read people's minds and say, this is what they're thinking, just real quick as we close out, Johnny, how do you see this fitting into the larger sort of intellectual dark web movement?
johnny vedmore
Well, I think this is really interesting.
I think there's a lot of people who went into the intellectual dark web, people like Douglas Murray, as well, who liked the destabilisation of certain regions, which also fits the agenda of causing migration.
With Jordan B. Peterson, he was Like I say, I was a big fan and he affected me in very positive ways.
But when we needed him, when we need him to say, stand up for our own rights, for privacy, he's not there.
When we need him to stand up against vaccines, he's not there.
At the moments when you need him most, he is not there.
And I've done a long deep dive into Jordan Peterson's family history.
And yes, he talks about his Norwegian side very much.
He doesn't talk about the side just related to kings and queens, the biggest kings and queens, some of them who go back to the times of the Merovingian kings, etc.
So I mean, these guys all seem to have a little bit of a silver spoon in their mouth somewhat.
And they're trying to represent the everyday man, the native worker, and they're not doing it.
What they're doing is pretending.
And it's that pretense is going to like slowly these curtains will fall.
And that's what's happened with Eric R. Weinstein.
That's what's happened with Jordan P. Peterson.
That's what happened with Douglas Murray, with Ben Shapiro, with many more.
I think the intellectual dork web, as you call them, That's a very good name for them.
I think it's a fix-up.
And I think they're riding off the back of trends, off the back of things that emote us, and they're doing it on purpose.
And it's a very clever system to control us and to manipulate us and make people think they're on our side when they're not.
joe allen
Yeah, maybe the most galling aspect, you know, you heard that quote with Weinstein speaking to Shapiro, you know, we're not institutional people and knowing how much money, how much media support they've had.
The Daily Wire is not institutional.
Give me a break, Johnny.
johnny vedmore
One more thing about that.
Just one more thing.
You know, you don't, Eric Weinstein, when you go back, further than that UN report.
Yes, he was at Harvard, but he was also working for the Office of Naval Research, the ONR.
And that period of his history, I'd really like to look into because I think he's got intelligence asset written all over him.
joe allen
He is clearly affiliated with Thiel Capital.
In fact, wasn't he the manager of Thiel Capital for a long time?
Anyway, without going down that rabbit hole, our time is coming to a close.
Johnny, where do we find the piece?
Again, give us the title, tell us where to find it, and if there's anything that you've got coming up, please let us know.
johnny vedmore
Yeah, newspace.com.
Come to Newspaste.
You can also you can find it on Twitter.
I try and publish everywhere.
I have a little sub stack.
I have a brilliant article coming up a really, really long in depth one called about the third way politics of Clinton and Blair and how it's still ruling the roost, its creation and how it works.
I would love people it's going to be out in the next week.
Love people to get involved in that too.
joe allen
Johnny, it's an honor to have you on.
I really appreciate it.
Hopefully we can have you again.
Thank you, sir.
God bless.
johnny vedmore
Pleasure's all mine.
joe allen
You know, the thing that has always appealed to me about populist nationalism, the Trump movement, the war room itself, is that we are, as much as anyone in the media, we are a hub for the voice of real people.
We are representing the kind of spearhead against these institutional forces that have put us into these situations.
And now we find ourselves being led, so called, by the people who have put us in these situations.
Stay salty, War Room Posse.
We'll be back in just a moment.
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon.
joe allen
Thank you.
Welcome back, War Room Posse.
We have TJ Harker coming up.
But before we bring TJ in, I just want to address one more small issue.
Again, I'm not trying to be the disinformation police.
I'm not trying to be no fun guy, even if that is in my nature.
But I do think that to some extent, when you see something that you know is most likely bunk, and you have people coming to you, pleading with you to tell them, is this real?
Is this happening to us?
There's some sense of responsibility, I feel, to give my opinion on it.
And of course, my domain for the last three and a half years here on The War Room has been transhumanism.
And of course, we know that transhumanists, by and large, are looking to merge the human body, human mind with machines.
We also know that prominent transhumanists like Ray Kurzweil or William Sims Bainbridge are obsessed with this notion of linking human minds to artificial intelligence systems by way of nanotechnology, nanobots, the Internet of Bodies, self-assembling nanostructures forming in the brain to turn us into cyborgs.
These are just Fantastic dreams or horrific nightmares, but are they happening?
Is this going on right now?
If Denver would just throw up Article 1.
Recently, the researchers, the gynecologist, Young-Mi Lee, and the basically psyops propaganda specialist, Daniel Brody, Published an article in the International Journal for Vaccine Theory, Practice, and Research.
And in this article, they detail a study that was conducted in South Korea in which they took the contents of Moderna and Pfizer vaccines and they allowed some to gestate, they introduced some into organic material including blood and semen, and they electrified it by using electromagnetic frequencies from Wi-Fi.
And this is what they came up with.
If Denver would throw up image three, this is what they found.
You can see these plate-like structures.
You can see these helical spirals.
You can see all of these little evil-looking doodads, which has reignited this conversation around what was in the vaccine.
Was it just a a a bunk or failed experiment in mRNA technology which of course incorporates lipid nanoparticles which are nanotechnology causing horrific injuries that have been covered up and causing unknown psychological damage to people who have become in many ways vax addicts or are people being turned into walking cyborgs
with self-assembling nanocircuits connecting their brains and bodies to 5G.
I am not going to say one way or the other, which is or is not real, but I will simply say I do not believe that what we are seeing is the rollout of some sort of high-tech futuristic nanotech that is turning people into cyborgs.
And I'll give you one piece of evidence.
If Denver would throw up image 4, what we see here are cholesterol molecules assembling into very similar structures.
And of course, the vaccine contains lipids, lipid nanoparticles.
And so in an article, in a response in the same journal, the International Journal for Vaccine Theory, Practice and Research, the actual biochemist, Anne Ulrich, Published a response saying, no, there are no nanobots in the vaccine.
What you are seeing is the natural self-assembly of organic molecules.
It should be noted that Anne Ulrich is very much a vaccine skeptic.
Anne Ulrich is very much opposed to the current rollout of mRNA vaccines and future reckless rollouts of such vaccines.
But it's a big difference To say that these vaccines are experimental, their rollout is reckless, their effects have been horrific.
And it would be wise to at least use caution before taking them and saying that we are all being turned into cyborgs by injections and chemtrails and connected to artificial intelligence that doesn't even yet exist by way of 5G towers.
Again, I am not trying to be the disinformation police.
I am not trying to be no fun guy.
And I am not telling you what to believe or what not to believe.
I'm simply saying this.
I do not believe.
And as always, keep your wits about you, keep your eyes peeled, your mind open, and always question the official narrative just as you should always question The questioners.
Now, speaking of official narratives, historically the official narrative has been throughout the centuries that British imperialism and British colonialism has been a net positive for the many societies that it has touched because it brought industrialization, it brought democracy, it brought the rule of law, On the other hand, we now have a new hegemonic idea that British colonialism has been a net negative for everybody and that the Brits are awful and should have their countries inundated by immigrants as repayment for all the harms that they have done from Africa to India to Oceania.
Coming to us now is T.J.
Harker.
War Room audience should be well familiar with the great T.J.
Harker.
He has a new article that breaks down the impact of British colonialism on the globe.
He's very detailed.
It is, of course, remarkably mathematical, leaving me in the dust.
T.J., what is the title of the article?
Where can we find it?
And tell us, what did you find in your analysis of British colonialism and its effect on the rest of the globe?
unidentified
Yeah, thanks for having me, Joe.
So the article is called The Best Thing That Ever Happened, and you can find it on my substack, tjharker.com.
And you know, it's not too mathematical.
In fact, you can read the entire thing without looking at the math at all.
It's all at the end.
But the takeaway is this.
If you look at all the British colonies that have existed in the world since about 1600, in Ireland's case, a lot longer than that, but from 1600 to roughly 1960, What you find is that there's a very strong correlation between the amount of time that a country was a British colony and its current per capita GDP.
In fact, that correlation is so strong, it's about 0.67 according to my statistical analysis, that that's considered very strong or right on the cusp of very strong in the social sciences.
Now, the point of this is not that it's particularly interesting to go back and study British history.
I personally find it interesting, although it is the case that we've recently had a lot of discussions on Twitter about Winston Churchill.
But it is also the case that for 60 years, the left has inundated America and the world with this idea that there should be this thing called white guilt, that we have this white privilege, that white people are responsible for all the atrocities of history.
And, you know, the one thing I pointed out in this article at the beginning was that what all these people point out consistently in the case of the British is that they were white while failing to notice that they were civilized.
And so this isn't a racial issue.
The takeaway here is that the British brought with them, unlike the other major colonial powers like Spain, France to a certain degree, Belgium, Portugal, et cetera, they brought with them a moral obligation to teach domestic and native peoples in the colonies that they took charge of, how to be capable of self-governance.
Now, let me stop there for a moment and communicate something to your viewers.
I think it's obvious, but it bears reminding Americans that the thing that makes you an American, one of the most important things, is a body of ideas and a commitment to that body of ideas.
In particular, I would say those ideas are set forth in an aspirational form in the Declaration of
Independence, that we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among them are life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
And so, you know, lots of ideas flow from that.
Industriousness, thriftiness, respect for the rule of law, protection of property rights, this idea that you can improve yourself along a variety of dimensions, morally, financially, and so forth.
All of that is a body of ideas.
And it's very similar to the body of ideas that the British brought to the various colonies that they were governors of for a long period of time.
And what's interesting, of course, For present purposes, is that the left began to attack British colonialism in the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s.
And ultimately, Britain agreed to this sort of public pressure and walked away from governing more than several dozen of these colonies during that time period.
And what you see is that those colonies that only had a few decades of British colonial rule simply were not equipped for self-governance and independence.
They hadn't yet adopted or adapted the body of ideas that makes a people capable of self-governance or independent reflection.
that's necessary for advanced forms of government, similar to the same way that we can observe that
our children are not yet ready to be adults. They need 20 years of education in that process before
they can become adults, if they become adults at all. Many people need the same thing. In fact,
the correlation is quite strong, so that if you were a colony of Britain for 10 or 20 or 30 years,
it's very likely the case that your GDP today is very low.
If you were a colony of Great Britain for 70, 80, 150, 200 or 300 years, then it's likely the case that your GDP is much higher today.
Now, I'm oversimplifying this, and I want to make that clear to your listeners.
This is not an extremely detailed statistical analysis.
The point of it is to show that there's a body of ideas that matter, And let's bring this full circle and talk about the United States of America.
That body of ideas today is under attack in the same way that the radical left attacked British colonialism in the 1950s and 1960s.
joe allen
You know, TJ, we've discussed this previously, and as a redneck, I am oftentimes, to some extent, resentful of the imposition of this so-called civilization of which you speak.
On the other hand, I think that there has to be a conversation around this.
We have been for decades.
It has been drilled into our heads.
Colonialism, evil.
The white man, evil.
You would almost call it a conspiracy theory that these disparate facts that are floating in the air are brought together to show that, in fact, all of the problems of the world can be laid at the feet of the evil, civilized white man, and that the noble savage, in fact, is the one who truly bears the moral superiority of humanity.
to the latter argument in many ways.
I think that it has to be an argument in a conversation, but the fact that we're being propagandized in a way
that right now, at this point in history, sees the noble savage overrunning our borders
and being given special privileges and taxpayer dollars to the detriment of the citizens of our world today.
I just wanna ask you, Do you see a downside to colonialism?
Is there any validity whatsoever in the critiques of the imposition of British culture or even French, German, Dutch culture on the other nations of the world?
Or are you firmly entrenched in the position that the benefits so far outweigh the negatives that there's nothing to even argue about?
unidentified
Yeah, that's a good question, Joe, and I'll respond to that and then make a few comments regarding your earlier comments.
So the first is that there absolutely is, you know, terrible atrocities committed in the name of colonialism.
And, you know, if you look at the Belgian colonial empire or the Spanish colonial empire, you know, these were extractive colonial empires.
They were not particularly interested in advancing the capability of the local native people for self-governance or independence or material prosperity.
They basically just used them.
And like, there's really Just no thanks for that.
That is what people think it is.
It's bad.
And the French are kind of an unusual exception.
Today, you have countries like Algeria, you have South Vietnam.
And Vietnam, at one point, they were part of the French Empire, Senegal and others.
And the French had their sort of own take on fraternity, equality and liberty that they brought to these colonial empires.
But none of it stacks up to what the British did.
In the British case, The British took it upon themselves to communicate the body of ideas that is inside their head.
Now, you mentioned your sort of aversion to what I'll call the aristocratic, pedantic, condescending view, and that is sort of how we all think about the elite British Oxford-educated hoppies or whatever, and that's not what I'm referring to exactly.
What I'm referring to is, in the case of the United States of America, in the case of any group of people who want to advance themselves, is that you must be habituated into the various character traits that allow for civilization to flourish.
And those character traits include things like industriousness.
Delayed gratification.
Respect for the rule of law.
The capacity to engage in argumentation and effective reasoning.
The willingness to settle disputes with the people you disagree with, especially your countrymen, peacefully.
The willingness to be the loyal opposition when you are out of power.
I think whether you are high-born aristocrat or low-born, as you called yourself, a redneck, I think I'd probably call you a hillbilly.
Maybe not a redneck.
joe allen
Hey, hey now!
Hey, hey!
unidentified
Yeah, I consider that a compliment now that I'm here in East Tennessee.
But the point is that any person who wants to raise their own children is teaching them, their children, industriousness, delayed gratification, hard work, honesty, integrity.
They're teaching them fundamentally the principles that are set forth in the Declaration of Independence and that are corollaries to those principles.
Now, let me make an additional point here.
People who believe and who hold a firm commitment to the principles of the Declaration of Independence or to the principles that the British colonialists tried to instill in the populations that they governed, people who hold those views, They are very difficult to enslave.
They're very difficult to make docile.
Somebody who has a strong commitment to this idea that all men are created equal, that we're endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, and so forth, they're not the type of person who is easily going to swallow hook, line, and sinker the slave-drawn ideology of the woke leftists.
And the reason is because the people who accept this view, who buy into these ideas, first of all, we call those people Americans.
Second of all, those people want to—they believe in those ideals because they recognize that it gives them an avenue, a framework for moral agency, for improving themselves and their families and their countries and their communities across the scope of time.
And once you accept the idea that you can improve yourself or your community or your country, what you are really saying is that I accept that there is such a thing as superior and inferior, better and worse, bad and good, right and wrong.
Now, people who accept those ideas are absolutely indomitable.
They cannot be governed by a totalitarian ideology like the slave-drawn ideology of woke leftism.
And I could give an example of this.
Your viewers will remember that time when President Trump referred to, I think it was Haiti, as a crap hole country.
He did not use the phrase crap hole.
He used more flowery language, but I'll use the phrase crap hole country.
Now, you might also recall that the left absolutely excoriated him for that, and they tried to act as though the reason that their multi-month long excoriation of Donald Trump for calling Haiti a crap hole country was because it was unpresidential, but that was not the reason they attacked him.
So vociferously.
They had other examples of Donald Trump engaging in, you know, tweeting or, you know, personal conduct that maybe wasn't as presidential as we would hope.
But this was not that example.
Instead, they attacked him because the president of the United States, when he refers to a country as a craphole country, he's marshalling a whole bunch of underlying premises.
And one of those premises is that, well, if there's such a thing as a crappled country,
then that means there can be such a thing as a superior country. And lo and behold,
maybe the United States of America is one of those superior countries. And if you start thinking that
joe allen
way, go ahead. If we could, the clock, the imperialist civilized clock is bearing down
on our heads. And while I may be a redneck, I am in fact beholden.
My parents, my grandparents did teach me to respect, if nothing else, the structure of the institutions in which I am.
So, TJ, where can we find the article?
Give us the title one more time, and give us the link to get there.
unidentified
Yeah.
Thanks, Joe.
And I apologize for taking up your time.
You can find it at TJHarker.com.
The title is The Best Thing That Could Ever Happen.
And as you say, stay salty, my friends.
The United States of America is the greatest country on earth.
It is also that way because of the ideas that we hold in our heads.
And to your prior guest's view, if you bring in tens of millions of illegal aliens, the problem with that, whether they're good people or honest people or hardworking people, is irrelevant.
The problem is they do not have the same ideas in their heads.
They're not yet prepared for self-governance.
That's the reason they're trying to come here.
But if we have too many of them, then there will be nobody to teach them about self-governance.
So these values are in the Declaration of Independence, and we have many things to be proud of in America.
Do not let the left destroy that.
joe allen
TJ Harker, thank you very much, sir.
We will see you soon.
That is it.
War Room Posse, thank you very much for hanging in there.
Great thanks to all of our listeners for bringing the information that you do to me.
I do my best to process it in as sane a fashion as possible and give it back to you.
I hope I am doing my job, even if I can't exactly be sane.
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