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Sept. 24, 2024 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 3926: The Country Is Ripe For MAGA; Christians Must Make A Stand

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mark mitchell

09:20

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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified		Pray for our enemies.
unidentified		Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
willie geist ▲ ● ▼		The people have had a belly full of it.
unidentified		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified		MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
willie geist ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about Georgia as well, Lisa.
		Yesterday the state election board there unanimously approved a new rule that would make pictures, photographs of ballots available to the public within three days after an election.
		It would give candidates and voters the ability to check the vote count and identify concerns more quickly.
		Unclear if the new rule will be finalized in time for November's election.
		Also, Georgia's Board of Elections opened an investigation into eight county election boards and how they handled thousands of challenges to voter registration.
		So help us sort through what both of those stories mean.
unidentified		Let's start with the first one about making the ballot images transparent.
		You noted, Willie, that all five members of Georgia Election Board voted for that.
		And I think it's because it represents something different to each side.
		Remember, this is not happening in a vacuum.
		The Georgia Election Board has been considering change after change to its rules.
		We have a trial coming up on October 1st about two of the most controversial of those rules.
		One that allows county election board members to conduct a reasonable inquiry after an election and before certification, and the other that allows them to demand any and all election-related documentation.
		You can see then why how the two non-MAGA board members might favor a system where you get to see the transparent images of ballots, because that will allow people to be their own check On counties that say, oh wait, I couldn't possibly certify these election results because there's irregularity X or alleged fraud Y. By making those images available to everyone, perhaps they're hoping that that will serve as a check.
		On the other hand, for the three MAGA board members, this is also an opportunity to give the voting public and all sorts of citizen activists, the kinds of people maybe trained by Cleta Mitchell, the opportunity to sow that doubt themselves and distrust in the results.
joy reid ▲ ● ▼		In other states like Georgia, lawsuits are being filed already challenging the way elections are being run.
		We will all be up on pins and needles on November 5th or whenever the peach state finishes hand counting the millions of ballots that will likely be generated.
		However, in the world, they're going to do that.
		And whether lawsuits will prevent whoever wins these states where Republican election deniers have a role from being certified in their state elections at all.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Tuesday, 24th of September, Arnold Dominy 2000 and 24 Arnold here at the helm, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon.
		We're concentrating on the battleground states today.
		And specifically, we're going to be deep diving onto Georgia and Michigan.
		And first up, however, our guest Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen polling.
		Mark, good morning to you.
		And tell me, it seems to me that the fix is in.
		Mike no Johnson Johnson, the testicle-less wander who passes himself off as Speaker of the House of Representatives has sold Magda Short yet again.
		Tell me, how is this playing in the battleground states?
		Apparently, there's going to be a continuing resolution, a CR, that will last up until December, as you say, to push the debate, funding this bloated federal government until after the elections.
		Tell me something, Mark.
		Firstly, how is this playing in the battleground states?
		But specifically, You know, according to your polling expertise, what point is there for Republican voters and actually voting Republican in November?
		If the Uniparty is going to kick in at every opportunity, this is the second time now the so-called speaker is going to be dependent on Democrat votes to push through his agenda.
		What is the point of voting Republican in November?
		And how is this playing in the battleground states?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		That's such a tough question to answer, but I think I would say, like, what other choice do Republican voters have?
		Seriously, we just did another set of states.
		I have all the data.
		We're processing them as fast as possible.
		We have three of them back.
		Georgia is one of those states.
		It's going to Trump by three points, which I think is really good news.
		And I have reason to believe personally that Trump will probably outperform what our polling says.
		I think in Georgia, the generic ballot was plus five for Republicans.
		So that's the thing.
		Republicans do not like their Republican elected leaders.
		They give Mitch McConnell horribly, horribly bad results.
		And everybody says that the Republican Party is the party of Donald Trump.
		and MAGA and on every single issue they want strong action and they always seem like they
		get burned.
		We've been polling about government shutdowns all the way going back a year ago and back
		then 56% of all voters prefer to partial government shutdown until spending could be reduced.
		Only 34 percent wanted to avoid it.
		And it was like 73 to 22 for Republicans.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Mark, repeat this, because the GOP establishment is hardline on this idea, on the narrative that a shutdown before the election is going to be suicidal for the party that causes the shutdown.
		It's only ever the Republicans that cause a shutdown.
		And as far as I'm aware, that's not actually borne out in actual election results.
		But in terms of the polling, it would seem to suggest that your Rasmussen polling here doesn't even corroborate this argument.
		Right.
		Taxpayers want to spend less.
		They don't.
		American taxpayers want to spend less.
		They don't want to keep funding this bloated, incompetent government, the federal bureaucracy.
		And yet when it comes down to the wire, American voters So the Republican Party members specifically are being betrayed by their elected representation in the Congress and in the Senate because these two groups will bend over backwards to keep it going.
		But repeat that figure, if you wouldn't mind, Mark.
		That doesn't mean that the idea that a shutdown before the election would be suicide and that Mike, no Johnson Johnson, has the big pressure to keep, stop that from happening.
		Your polling here suggests that this isn't the case.
		This is a narrative that they have invented themselves to keep the regime going.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		I would go even farther and say it isn't just about spending, it's about literally everything.
		And it's not just about Republicans, it's about independents too.
		They want action on literally everything.
		So this budget shutdown when we did, I mean, it showed that 73% to 22% Republicans wanted the shutdown to lower spending.
		But independents, it was also 56 to 30.
		And then new numbers that aren't even out yet.
		Show that 63% of all voters support shutting down the government to try and pass new laws requiring proof of citizenship.
		Including a stunning 61% of independents.
		And I'll go even one more out of our swing state polling.
		This is Pennsylvania numbers I'm reading, but we have it for Georgia also.
		If given a choice between two candidates, one of whom favored granting amnesty to all illegal aliens, or one whom favored deporting all illegal aliens, Deportation wins in Pennsylvania 50% to 33%.
		With Republicans, it's 80%.
		Four out of five Republicans want every illegal alien deported.
		And it's a plurality of independents.
		So this is the thing, and I'll tell you, I don't think, quite frankly, what I think now is that if you're a Republican in Congress, the odds are that the light at the end of the tunnel probably looks the brightest right now than it's ever looked, because in my opinion, they never really wanted to take action.
		And you know how I know that?
		Let me ask you a question, Ben.
		Try and think back to the last three years at any one single instance of any thought work, any Polling that came out about messaging or the topics that was funded by a Republican think tank.
		I don't think you're going to be able to remember any because they're not doing it.
		Listen, if they wanted to fight on things like abortion.
		I have the numbers.
		The country says that it's pro-choice, 53% to 37%.
		But only 15% of voters want abortion after six months.
		It's only 27%, one in four voters, after three months.
		And even Joe Biden's sycophantic followers, less than half of them want abortion after three months.
unidentified		Let's do this again.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		We've got to go through these numbers because it seems to me that you're an expert here, a leading American expert on syphology.
		You know how this breaks down.
		I want to underline this for the War Imposter.
		What you are being told by your Republican establishment is an absolute lie on every single metric.
		Let's go through these figures, if I may, quickly once more.
		Fifty-four percent, then, would rather see a shutdown than more spending, right?
		On the federal budget, 63 percent would rather see, if I've understood you correctly, would rather see a shutdown unless the SAVE Act is passed.
		That is to say, to prohibit non-Americans from voting in elections.
		This seems to me to be exactly where MAGA is.
		Right?
		Exactly.
		This is something that Steve Bannon has said repeatedly.
		Not only MAGA.
		MAGA is the voice of the nation here.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Even 47% of Democrats, even 47% of Democrats at least somewhat support shutting down the government to pass laws requiring proof of citizen to register to vote.
		It's not MAGA.
		It's literally voters just want accountability and action.
		All of them on everything, no, but almost every MAGA topic, it's 80% of Republicans and 50 to 60% of independents.
		In this case, it's even almost half of Democrats.
		So it's like they literally want action and time and time again, Republicans lose the high ground on every messaging argument.
		They do it on abortion.
		They do it on spending like they do it on like election integrity.
		They were the first to jump aboard and say, yeah, elections are safe and secure.
		Guess what?
		We tested it again, and still more than 60% of voters think that the outcome of this election will be affected by cheating, and it's like roughly half of Democrats.
		So, I mean, like everybody grades Congress poorly, and I think only now has it really been exposed that it's not this kabuki theater where they're just constantly locked in this policy battle.
		They just don't want to upset the status quo, neither party.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Mark, I come back on you and say that you're 45 percent now Democrats.
		These people are, you know, America First is a movement that isn't solely within the Republican Party.
		It embraces, I think, right across the American electorate.
		And there are a lot of people who support the America First agenda that don't formally identify themselves with MAGA.
		That's the point, I think, that I would like to make explicitly here.
		There are a lot of people who support this agenda, even though they don't consciously identify as Magda.
		They don't necessarily think that they would support Donald Trump because they have an incorrect image of what he actually stands for.
		But the actual policies that he is pushing.
		I think have a massive traction with the American public.
		And your figures here seem to suggest that.
		Would you mind, please, Mark, just repeat these statistics once again?
		And I, you know, we have folk on the show in the rest of this hour from Georgia and from Michigan.
		This is the message that needs to penetrate out.
		Repeat to me once again, what was that 54 percent and that 63 percent figure, please?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, let me first say that all these crosstabs are public because of our gracious sponsor, American Thinker, who gave us huge tech to run into the field and get 10 states.
		That means everybody can look at these crosstabs and they are so dense.
		This is the biggest poll I've ever put in the field.
		It has so much information in here.
		But out of our daily, because I want to go to one specific example after I read these again, but shutting down the government, For proof of citizenship was 63% of all likely voters, 48% strongly, and it's 47% of Democrats and 82% of Republicans and 60% of independents.
		They literally all want it.
		But then check this out.
		This is the biggest example of Why?
		Listen, there's a silver lining to this storm cloud.
		The storm cloud is the level of gaslighting here has reached absolutely epic proportions.
		Anybody who reads these Pennsylvania and Georgia and later today the Arizona crosstabs We'll be able to palpably feel the level of brainwashing here.
		We have things like atheists number one issue, 41% is abortion.
		And but this little like one, two punch here.
		When considering gender and sexual identity issues, which candidates values are closer to your own?
		47% say Trump, 46% say Harris in Pennsylvania.
		That's a tie.
		But the very next question, do you agree or disagree with this statement?
		There are only two genders.
		And Pennsylvanians strongly agree by 72, 54%, 72% at least somewhat agree.
		And only 27% of Pennsylvanians at least somewhat support transing the kids.
		So Republicans have no kung fu or messaging.
		Yeah.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Stand by, we'll be back in two minutes.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Welcome back.
		We're here with Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen Reports.
		Mark, these data are absolutely astonishing.
		Not surprising, but astonishing to see these things confirmed.
		I'm at a loss to explain why the Trump campaign team seems to be so instinctively blind as Lying reality that your data here is indicating.
		It would seem to me from what you are confirming that the GOP leadership In both houses are deliberately trying to sabotage any attempt at victory in November.
		Tell me something, please, if you will.
		You have some other news that Democrats for the first time ever have been revealed, according to your polling, to be the largest, most significant, the biggest enemy for the first time ever.
		Tell me more about this.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		No, I'd say it's not just Republican leadership, but the entire conservative infrastructure.
		I can pull between one half and one tenth as cheaply as any other pollster in the field.
		And I've done all of this thought leadership work and not one single nonprofit think tank except for like The two that have been our longtime clients care at all about what Americans think.
		And when I looked at the swing state results here, what I see in a very scary manner is two different Americans.
		The Republicans in D.C.
		are not gonna be able to hold their breath and come out on the other side of this and have this go away.
		The top two issues for Democrats are abortion rights and protecting our democracy, 68%.
		The top two issues for Republicans are rising prices and illegal immigration.
		Two totally different things, but one of the questions we've been asking people over time, who's America's biggest enemy?
		Iran, Russia, China, the Democrats, or the Republicans?
		And there's always been a little bit of back and forth, a little divisiveness.
		China's always taken the number one spot.
		But in Pennsylvania, and again, this was a tied result, tied with Trump, the Democrat Party is now the number one enemy facing America.
		29% of Pennsylvanians say the Democrats.
		21% say China, only 15% say Republicans.
		But what's crazy, the reason why Democrats are leading Republicans there is because independents agree with Republicans that the Democrat Party is the biggest enemy facing America.
		They like to talk about domestic extremists.
		Only 7% and 8% of Republicans and independents think that's a problem.
		We're literally talking about Independents are three times more likely to say the Democrat Party is our biggest enemy than Russia.
		It's that crazy.
		So now, again, it's like, okay, if Trump loses and establishment Republicans get their way and go back to all those fat policy work, consulting gigs or whatever, you're not going to be able to put this genie back in the bottle.
		We got 41% of people in this country think a civil war is happening in the next five years.
		And the two parties, of course, Democrats say Republicans are their biggest enemy, 30 percent of them.
		Again, that's not I mean, that's not like a majority of Democrats, but like Democrats by a two to one margin say Republicans are a bigger enemy than China.
		It's incredible.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		The only thing I would say instinctively here, and the news coming out of today, that I repeat this from what I said in the opening of the show, that the speaker, the so-called Republican speaker, MAGA Mike, he built himself up.
		Oh, by the way, let me interrupt myself.
		This guy claimed he said he had a biblical worldview.
		I actually want to say it's absolutely true.
		He does have a biblical worldview.
		His worldview is based on Judas Iscariot, who is, of course, a character Right, from the Bible.
		So I'm actually going to agree with him.
		He does have a biblical worldview, if and only if you're considering Judas Iscariot.
		The treachery here is incredible.
		The only thing I would say, listening to you break this down, Mark, is that as far as I'm concerned, the GOP establishment It's equally dangerous to America as Democrats.
		I can't say I think the Democrats are worse.
		I think they are both equally bad, especially when they combine as the Uniparty.
		As they did, both parties, it was a bipartisan vote to get back in in April the 61 billion to Zelensky.
		It's going to be a bipartisan vote to pass this CR up until December.
		This is the Uniparty working in consort, and it's in your face.
		Six weeks before an election, the message is going out, at least from the so-called control, the sort of Control of the House of Representatives.
		There is no point in voting Republican, right?
		That is the message they want you to know.
		They would rather lose seats in the House of Representatives and frustrate Donald Trump and his agenda than keep control of the House.
		They are signaling as As brazenly as they can, don't vote for this party in November because we will betray you.
		It's astonishing to behold and it's astonishing here to hear your polling.
		Mark Mitchell, where can people go to read deeper, look and analyse, investigate these crosstabs that you have?
		Where can they go?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that conclusion you made is really the only one I can arrive at, because I have the answers.
		If you're confounded by abortion, I have the answers for you conservatives.
		But yeah, go to Twitter at Rasmussen underscore poll.
		That's where you can see all of our latest releases and a link back to the crosstabs.
		I'm there too, Mark underscore R underscore Mitchell.
		And we've got a really great YouTube channel where I break this stuff down in sort of 10, 15 minute snippets.
unidentified		So I'd love to have everybody there.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Mark Mitchell, you are absolutely outstanding.
		Thank you for coming on the show this morning.
		God bless.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, man.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Outstanding.
		Quickly now, we're going to go over to Georgia, one of the six battleground states, and talk to Mark Davis, who is a stalwart with the Federalist Election Expert.
		A voter data analyst.
		Mark, good morning to you.
		Thanks for coming on the show.
		Tell me, what's going on with the state election board in Georgia?
		This is something we've been covering for a number of months now.
		I gather there are some developments.
unidentified		Oh, huge.
		And thank you for having me.
		The first thing to understand about the state election board is the context.
		The election integrity movement in Georgia has been steadily gaining ground ever since the 2020 election.
		And we now have basically a majority of the state election board that appears to be committed to election integrity issues and actually willing to fight for them.
		And it's got the establishment absolutely freaked out.
		And Raffensperger has been doing his best to keep a lid on a number of major issues ever since 2020.
		He has been actively Stifling cases and preventing them from going before the board and playing all kinds of games ever since 2020.
		And they're scared to death that the state election board is going to wreck their world.
		And we're coming up against the statute of limitations for crimes committed in 2020.
		There's been a deliberate effort to keep a lot of those issues from seeing the light of day, and they've been somewhat successful up until now.
		And if you look at what's going on with the board now, you've got this narrative that's been constructed, this major freak out with the Democrats and even some Republicans about simple common sense measures that the board has taken.
		Recently, they enacted a rule that allows Or calls on the counties to hand count ballots to make sure that the number of ballots matches the number on the machine.
		And we're not talking about votes here.
		We're just talking about making sure the number of ballots physically matches the number that the machines counted.
		And all of a sudden that's a huge problem for everybody.
		And you've got folks claiming it's going to delay the elections and all this kind of stuff.
		But this was standard operating procedure at one time until the Secretary of State's office told the counties to quit
		doing it.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Astonishing. Tell me, are there any developments specifically to do with legal challenges?
		You mentioned here, we've got like 30 seconds, you mentioned, and then we'll carry you on over
		the break, you mentioned Raffensperger and the statute of limitations. Is there anything that's
		being introduced now?
		We can't do it in 15 seconds.
		But yes, there's a lot of legal actions going on here.
		after the statute closes.
		You've got 15 seconds, then we're going to the break.
unidentified		There's a lot of lawsuits to talk about.
		We can't do it in 15 seconds.
		But yes, there's there's a lot of legal actions going on here.
		And I guess we can get into that when we come back.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Stand by.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		We're back in three minutes with Mark Davis.
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unidentified		Here's your host Stephen K. Bamm. Welcome back.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Mark Davis, you were telling me just before the break about some of the lawsuits that are taking place in Georgia.
		Georgia is so crucially important to the outcome of Nuremberg V, one of the six key battleground states.
		Tell me, if you could, just the highlights.
		What are the developments that the warring parties need to be alerted to?
unidentified		Well, to summarize them, a number of them are federal writs of mandamus.
		There's a press conference at two today with United Sovereign Americans, and I'm actually One of the plaintiffs in that case.
		And as I'm sure you're aware, Rita Mandamus is basically a request to a court to compel a public official to do their job.
		And when it comes to Raffensperger, it's needed.
		It's warranted.
		He's been stifling cases that should have gone before the state election board a long time ago.
		And the crazy thing is there's funding being withheld from the state election board They don't even have their own investigators, so when I put in a case that's actually against wrongdoing by the Secretary of State that I helped elect, the investigator for that case is not in the state election board office, it's in the Secretary of State's own office.
		It's literally asking the fox to account for the missing chickens in the hen house.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		So you're doing this with Linda Sienkiewicz, right?
unidentified		Excuse me?
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		You're doing this with Linda Sienkiewicz?
unidentified		I don't, I've not met her.
		No.
		It's Harry Haring.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Or Marley Hornick.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Marley Hornick.
unidentified		Marley Hornick, yes.
unidentified		And Harry Haring.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Tell me, if you will, a bit more about this, please.
		Because we've had Marley on the show.
		Tell us a bit more specifically with regards to Georgia, what you're doing.
unidentified		Well, the various plaintiffs have different issues.
		I can tell you about mine.
		If you go to the phone call between Brattensperger and President Trump and you scroll down to where Kurt Hilbert starts talking, that's my analysis that was in there.
		And I took that data and I turned it into the Secretary of State's office in May of 2021 as an official complaint to try to get him to investigate Basically the same data that President Trump was trying to get him to investigate.
		And that case was administratively dismissed on bogus grounds.
		If anybody wants to read about that, the story is on my author page at The Federalist.
		But I did the same analysis in 2022, found even more unqualified voters that are evidence of unqualified voters that were voting in our elections.
		They're stacking up like cordwood.
		Nothing's really changed.
		We're going to have the same problem in 2024, and that's just going to add to the pile.
		Right now, that number's sitting at about 60,000.
		It's probably going to add another 20,000, 30,000.
		So they can't escape these issues forever.
		It's impossible.
		In fact, one of the cases that's going before the board at some point involves a sitting Republican member of Congress with a residency issue.
		And the awkward situation there is the board can't adjudicate that case without opening the barn door to discuss the tens of thousands of other cases that have gone uninvestigated.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Incredible.
		Where can folks go, Mark Davis, if they want to support what you're doing?
		I know that Marley Hornick is a great, very much beloved here by the War Impostor, and I don't want to spoil anything she's involved with.
		Where do folks go if they want to support these lawsuits that you're presenting in Georgia?
unidentified		I am Mark Davis, GOP.
		On X, not to be confused with the other Mark Davis, who's a talk radio show host in Texas.
		And then my author page at The Federalist is a good source of information.
		And then, you know, the press conference will be two o'clock today if you want to tune in and follow that whole case.
		It's going to be really interesting to watch.
		You've got Kevin Moncla and the Fulton County mess that's involved there.
		You've got my analysis that's involved there.
		You've got a number of different analysts who have brought cases that have been stifled.
		It could end up being a pretty explosive situation there.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Perfect.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		And once again, those contacts on social media?
unidentified		Excuse me?
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Your contacts on social media?
unidentified		Mark Davis, GLP on X.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Perfect.
		Thanks so much for coming on the show today, Mark.
		We look forward to catching up again really soon.
		Thank you for having me.
unidentified		I appreciate it.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		God bless.
		Now, Ambassador Pete Hoekstra, you spent 18 years in U.S.
		Congress.
		You were the U.S.
		ambassador to the Netherlands under Donald Trump in his first term.
		You're now the GOP chair in Michigan.
		Tell me something.
		There's some interesting news coming out of Michigan.
		The unions are supporting Donald Trump.
		They're rallying around in the closing weeks.
		that we have before November the 5th. And also something interesting coming out of Dearborn
		that I saw yesterday and sort of took me slightly by surprise. Lots of good news then today. Tell me
		tell me tell me first about the mayor in Dearborn and then talk about the unions if you wouldn't
unidentified		mind. Actually it was the not Dearborn it was the mayor of Hamtramck.
		I had that wrong.
		It was the mayor of Hamtramck in Michigan that came out and endorsed Donald Trump over the weekend.
		You know, it just tells you what's going on within the Muslim community.
		They recognize the Yeah, what happened during the Donald Trump era where there was peace and stability throughout the Middle East, we had the Abraham Accords versus the chaos that we are seeing with the war in Gaza, what's now happening in Lebanon, you know, again, they want the same thing that most people around the world, they want peace and prosperity and they recognize and
		The world of chaos, that's not what they're going to get.
		So, you know, that was a big shift and a big win for the Trump campaign here in Michigan over the weekend.
		The unions, you know, Sean Fein, the head of the UAW, came out a few, you know, a month or so ago and, you know, they had endorsed Biden and then they endorsed Harris and, you know, and this is the head of the UAW.
		One of the most significant unions, if not the most significant union in the state of Michigan.
		And he says, you know, as the leadership, we are endorsing Kamala Harris, but we know that many of our members are going to be voting for Donald Trump.
		It's like, Whoa, he's not talking about we're going to convince our members as to why Kamala Harris is the best candidate.
		He's just acknowledging that they're losing lots of their members to Donald Trump.
		Why?
		Because they recognize that this insane push by the Biden administration, by the Gretchen Whitmer administration here in Michigan for electric vehicles is going to put a lot of these UAW workers out of work, and it's going to move this Auto industry.
		It's going to move it from Michigan.
		It's going to move it to China.
		And you say, oh, Pete, you're exaggerating.
		Excuse me.
		The canary in the mineshaft is is Europe.
		Yesterday, you know.
		The the Detroit News, a one of our local statewide papers, you know, ran an article.
		What's happening in Germany?
		They're looking at how to save their automobile industry.
		What's the what's the threat?
		China.
		China auto industry, China EVs, and those types of things.
		That is Michigan in two to three years if we don't confront this massive push by China to steal our automobile industry.
		Then you've got the Teamsters.
		The national Teamsters, they didn't endorse They didn't endorse anybody, but that's a huge win because they've been a reliable partner with the Democratic Party.
		Again, it's going to open a window here in Michigan.
		Teamsters like UAW workers.
		They have great salaries.
		They make a good living.
		They work hard, but they've got their cottages.
		They drive their pickup trucks.
		They like to go hunting, but they're getting hammered by inflation.
		Disposable income is shrinking.
		So you've got all these working men and women across the state of Michigan who are coming together and saying, we're voting Donald Trump.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Tell me, Ambassador Hoekstra, what is the momentum like in Michigan right now?
		It was a key state in 2016.
		Tell me some more about what the sentiment is like there right now.
unidentified		Everywhere I go, I see a tremendous... I'm so bullish on Michigan, I've got to come back down to reality.
		We're going to run through the finish line on November 5, but we've got a massive get-out-the-vote effort coming from the Republican Party.
		Mike Rogers, who's our Senate candidate, Uh, for the open Senate seat here in Michigan, they spent about 30 million dollars trashing Mike Rogers over the last 6 to 8 weeks.
		And, uh, you know, he's polling within the margin of error margin of error.
		And he has spent just a fraction of that.
		But he's got a lot of reserves built up for what we're going to be able to spend in the next six weeks.
		So I feel really good about the Senate race.
		We have J.D.
		Vance here this week.
		We have Donald Trump coming this week for a couple of events.
		We have RFK most likely coming into the state.
		The expectation is that they will be back next week.
		They're here.
		They're here every week, and we are getting tremendous turnout for, you know, whether it's J.D.
		Vance, whether it's Donald Trump, we're getting tremendous turnout at their events.
		We get as many people outside of the venue trying to get in as what we have actually inside the venue.
		And you know, but we've got to get out the vote effort.
		Mike Rogers has a get out the vote effort.
		Elon Musk has a get out the vote effort.
		The America first policy program.
		They've got a we we're doing it the Republican way.
		We're giving people lots of freedom to have to be creative and drive out the vote at their targeted audiences.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Ambassador Hoekstra, in 30 seconds, could you quickly just tell me something more about this Mayor of Hamtrak, Amir Ghalib?
		You and I have both, I think, would be considered to be rather Islamo-sceptic, but this is a full-throated endorsement of Donald Trump.
		What does that sort of indicate to you, six weeks before the election that this has taken place?
unidentified		Yeah, you know, I mean, we saw the inroads into the Muslim community, you know, over the last four to six years.
		And, you know, you and I are probably we're both skeptics.
		We're concerned about the threat from radical Islam.
		But at the same time, I've traveled throughout the Middle East.
		And we also both know more Muslims have been killed by radical extremists than they have been by other folks.
		And so they're recognizing that for their future, their security, prosperity, and all of that, the future is with Donald Trump and not with the current regime.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't have said it better.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Standby, Ambassador, we'll wrap up in two minutes after the break.
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ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Ambassador Hoekstra, where do folks go if they want to if they want support?
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Firstly, to stay in touch with your analysis on events, but specifically in Michigan, if they're in the area, if they're in the state and they want to get involved in the closing six weeks of this campaign on social media, where do they go?
unidentified		They can just go to our website, Michigan Republican Party, M-I-G-O-P, and we will update them.
		We'd love to have them join.
		We always can use a few more door knockers, a few more phone calls, and also a few more checks.
		That's where they can go.
		And, you know, like I said, the response is good.
		The momentum is here.
		I think if we keep this up for the next six weeks, we're going to be OK.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Pete Hoekstra, thanks very much indeed for coming on the show today.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		God bless.
unidentified		Hey, great.
unidentified		Good to be with you.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Well, there was an article in yesterday's New York Times which really knocked me sideways, talking about the rise, for the first time ever in fact, not just the rise of men as an active presence in church going in Christianity.
		And so obviously the person I wanted to talk to this about is Ralph Reed.
		Ralph, good morning to you.
		Thanks for coming on the show today.
		You're actually the founding director of the Christian Coalition back in the 90s.
		I think you stood for lieutenant governor in Georgia.
		You have, as it were, a foot in both camps politically and in the church.
		We hear a lot the left, the woke, the people in control of the culture have made so much ground, haven't they?
		And attacking the concept of men under the banner of patriarchy.
		When I saw this article and I read through it, there's a giveaway line in there that actually said that men respond to hard challenges.
		That's been very different from what's been coming out of Christianity over the last few decades.
		And I think it's done the presence of Christianity in the public square a great deal of damage.
		You've seen this article, you've studied it.
		Can you just give me your first reflections on where you think this might indicate for the presence of the faith in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in the world today?
unidentified		Well, I think it's a very encouraging trend.
		Obviously, you know, we want to see all come to Christ, you know, regardless of gender, race, background, national origin, etc.
		But it's particularly encouraging To see these young men who are spiritually hungry finding evangelical churches and Bible-believing churches, getting plugged in, getting integrated, getting into either Sunday schools or discipleship or fellowship groups with other young men that they can have fellowship with and can identify with,
		It's very important because many of these young men, as you know, have been consistently bombarded by the larger culture that, you know, they're less than good enough, that, you know, they're misogynist or that, you know, they are abusive to women or that they've been discriminatory towards others.
		There's a lot of negative messages that are hitting these young men, and for them to experience this kind of love and this grace and compassion, find meaning and purpose for their lives, really bodes well, not only for the future of the church, but for the family.
		Because, you know, these men, once they get exposed to the gospel, they're going to be better husbands, they're going to be better fathers, they're going to be better employees, they're going to be better citizens.
		And it's extremely encouraging.
		You know, George Gilder, who wrote the great and just brilliant book, Wealth and Poverty and Men and Marriage back in the 80s and 90s, said that a young man disconnected from the sublime love of a woman is a savage.
		And if you look at young men that are disconnected from the family of origin and are not in matrimony, they're not married, historically, high incidences of chemical addiction, high incidences of crime, of involvement in the criminal justice system, lots of issues with those young men if they're not in a loving unit.
		So the same could be said for the church.
		If this is the feeder, for them to then meet that woman that they love.
		The future for our society, candidly, Ben, is very bright.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Look, you've got to come back on the show.
		I know you're on the wall quite a bit, but you have to come back on the show.
		We need to break this down.
		As far as I can see, and you tell me with your experience here whether this is right or wrong, but as far as I see it, the woke brigade are on to something.
		When they when they criticize the patriarchy in that men and women are different.
		They have different gifts.
		There is something in Christianity and Judaism and Islam.
		There is something specifically in these three religions.
		And only one of them is a true religion.
		That is to say, excuse me, Christianity is a true religion.
		Islam is not.
		But there is something in all three of these Abrahamic religions where men take leadership roles, both in worship, but also in cultivating the spiritual life in the family.
		Is that correct, or is that outdated thinking?
unidentified		I don't think it's outdated.
		You know, the Bible teaches that God is the head of Christ, Christ is the head of man, and man is the head of woman.
		But I think a lot of people with secular ears hear that.
		That's a scripture verse, by the way.
		That's the Bible.
		That's not my opinion.
		They hear that and through the secular ear and translated through the woke and left-wing agenda, they hear the subjugation of women.
		That is not what the Bible teaches at all.
		The Bible teaches that women are co-heirs of ours in Jesus Christ.
		They have all the benefits of and enjoy the full salvation and the fullness of the gospel.
		They should be treated as equals for that reason.
		God sent Christ to die for them as much as he did for us.
		It also teaches that a man is to give himself up for a woman, not to subjugate her or abuse her, but the opposite, to die for her, to give himself up for her and to serve her needs.
		But a lot of times that gets lost in translation.
		But yeah, there's no question.
		That if men learn these principles, they learn how to be the spiritual head of a household, setting an example, sharing scripture with their wife and their children, the world will be a much better place.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Ralph, in 10 seconds, 100%, very, very quickly, use your social contacts for the Faith and Freedom Coalition.
unidentified		It's FFCoalition, as in Faith and Freedom.
unidentified		FFCoalition.com.

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