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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
unidentified
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
mike benz
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
mike benz
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Obama Trump years. I think a lot of people question like was Barack Obama, did he come too soon?
Was he an aberration?
Was it just eight years of us glimpsing prematurely into a future that was a long way off?
And Donald Trump seemed to be such a repudiation of the, you know, the moral arc of the universe being long but bending towards justice.
And the Harris candidacy, I think, represents an affirmation that the path that Obama sort of opened up for the country might actually be its destiny.
joy reid
Yeah.
The trajectory that happened in 2008, you had this, you know, incredible thing that happened.
A country that was born a slave colony, a series of slave colonies, elects its first black president.
You know, a remarkable achievement.
And then four years later, he's re-elected.
And then it seemed that the sort of inexorable path was toward a woman being president.
And that got interrupted by Donald Trump, right?
And that was sort of the shock to the system.
You know, it is remarkable that the question of whether the country was what President Obama represented or whether it is what Trump represented is a really live question, I think, for a lot of people.
And increasingly, there's a sense that maybe Trump is the aberration.
And I think that is an important thing.
But I just think of it...
Maybe!
We'll see how it goes!
unidentified
Yes, I... Okay, and I don't want to be too hopeful or Pollyanna-ish, but I wonder if we are seeing a tiny, tiny, tiny semblance of a post-Trump Republican Party, or a post-Trump future that Republicans are sort of seeing after this second debate.
donald j trump
And you know this better than anyone, they're not after me, they're after you, and I'm just standing in their way, and I will continue to stand in their way.
natalie winters
Welcome to The War Room.
It's Monday, September 16th in the year of our Lord 2024.
It's Natalie G. Winters coming at you live from Washington, D.C.
Quite the news cycle, but don't worry.
Signal, not noise, is always here in The War Room.
Now that cold open.
Aberration.
Shock to the system.
Interrupted.
Post-Trump, I want you to burn those words, emblazon them in your mind, because that is what all of this, that's why this show was started, frankly, that's why what we saw transpire yesterday, that's what all of this is about.
And why did I conclude that montage with President Trump saying those infamous words?
They're not coming after me, they're coming after you.
It's because something this audience knows all too well, it's why, frankly, this show was started.
Remember the nullification project?
Of the first term of the Trump presidency, Donald Trump was the first man to stand up and align the Republican Party with the interests not of the donor class, but with you guys, the grassroots.
Not the Koch brothers, not the open borders, not the mass migration, the war hawks, the warmongers, frankly the Democrats that pretend to be Republicans.
It's the first time there was ever an alignment between the Republican Party, And you guys in this audience, and it shouldn't be lost on anyone, that the crazy, deranged man yesterday who tried to assassinate him, and here in the war room we use the word assassinate, not an alleged or an attempt, it was an attempted assassination, that his sole issue that motivated him to try to assassinate President Trump was the Ukraine war.
This very same president was the only president that didn't start a new foreign conflict.
The Ukraine war, of course, being the culmination of all of the globalist hellfire and warmongering.
I'm looking at you, Victoria Nuland, the culmination of that project for that country, that now war-torn country.
And Trump is right when he says, they're not coming for me, they're coming for you.
They know the only way Trump can lose isn't by taking off the ballot, isn't the welfare, is by killing him.
And they know that Trump represents something much more than just Trump.
What Stephen K. Bannon always says, it's Trumpism, it's the MAGA movement.
And the only way that they can quash it is to try to get rid of the only politician who has ever stood up and actually defended and protected policies that are America first.
And that's why they have to take him out.
For the second time, the second time yesterday, polls are so 2016, you now can tell who's winning a race based on how many assassination attempts there are, right?
And of course, the guy who tried to assassinate him, there's reporting coming out today, pictures of his car show the Biden-Harris bumper sticker.
As I broke yesterday, he donated 19 times to Democrats, Elizabeth Warren, Beto O'Rourke among them, even though we're told his political affiliations.
We don't know, right?
Yeah, we don't know, it's become synonymous with, they're a Democrat and they supported Kamala Harris, but we don't want to tell you that.
Now, I don't want to lose the moment, the news cycle that we were in before this all happened, though, of course, we are paying due diligence to what happened and the attention that it deserves.
But this is also serving a purpose of distracting from a conversation that is a conversation that you guys know all too well, that establishment Republicans and Democrats do not want to have.
And that's about immigration.
Legal, illegal, and mass migration.
And that's too nice a term because it's an invasion.
A state-sponsored invasion.
It's not a Trojan horse because at least the city of Troy had gates.
This is Kamala Harris and Joe Biden intentionally flying people in to this country from some of the most backwards countries that consistently rank in the hierarchy of countries on how democratic they are in the bottom 10%.
But yeah, morning Joe, keep lecturing us how important democracy is.
Well, maybe if democracy is what those idiots in the cold open were talking about, Where it's a fake set of candidates that you get to choose from, where you don't get people like Donald Trump who are a shock to the system, then I don't want any part in that democracy.
And you guys are right that Donald J. Trump is the next essential threat to that form of feigned democracy.
And by the way, we're not even a democracy, we're a republic.
So when you're gonna try to retrofit all those globalist attacks on this country and say, democracy, we must defend it straight all the way from Brussels or Davos, take your pick, NATO or the World Economic Forum, maybe you should at least try to tailor it just a little bit more to the United States.
But we were just on the precipice of finally having a national conversation about mass migration, and then this shooting happens, attempted shooting.
And don't worry, we're going to get into it.
I think later we're going to have Eric Prince and Mike Benz to break it down.
But I want to put a tweet on screen.
Because this is what we're up against.
If we can throw that Bill Kristol tweet up.
This is what your never-Trump bettors think of you.
They aren't illegal.
They didn't descend upon a town and they're not destroying anyone's way of life.
What would destroy our American way of life is this kind of lying, bigotry, demagoguery, and incitement were to prevail.
We cannot let that happen.
Signed, Never Trump.
That's from Bill Crystal.
I'd also throw you in the category of people having too much blood on their hands.
I don't even know how the heck you're going to vote in 2024.
Now, I don't know about you guys, but I'm a little sick and tired of being lectured by people like Bill Kristol who have made so much money.
Not on managing the decline of this country, but on accelerating the decline of this country.
Treating America like it is a special economic zone where your citizenship means absolutely nothing.
And so long as we import people, invaders to this country, so long as they pay taxes, even though we're told they don't have, you know, government identification and that's why they can't vote, so we can't pass the SAVE Act.
They spend money at Target and Walmart, so let's just open the floodgates and let them in.
Yeah, let's have the Biden regime maybe permanently weld the floodgates open.
Oh wait, they actually did that.
America is not a special economic zone that you can just flood with people from any country, any culture, no matter how backwards or perverse or voodoo-ridden it may be, and still be the America that we know and love.
And if anyone knows that story, It's us, actual Republicans, because we have seen what our party has become thanks to the infiltration and invasion of people who call themselves Republicans but are absolutely nothing but.
Rhino.
Too cutesy a term, but that is the cheapening of what it means to be a Republican, just like importing people from these backwards countries is cheapening what it means to be American.
And yes, we're going to have the mass deportations and we need them sure as hell.
We also need mass deportations from the Republican Party too.
And the story that they're now going with in Springfield, which, by the way, I'm so glad that in order to have a discussion about mass migration, it had to come to discussion and talk about American pets being eaten and barbecued alive.
Now, I don't even accept that pretense, for starters.
I'm allowed to oppose mass invasion and mass immigration here in the United States, even if the goalpost isn't set at these people eating pets.
I'll just look to the drained resources and tearing dissipating cultural fabric and I'll start my argument there.
But even if it takes a couple of cat memes to go viral to have this discussion, I say let's have it.
And you know what the best part is?
With the media running trying to draw false equivalencies between what's going on in Springfield and what happened to President Trump yesterday?
Say, oh well there were bomb threats caught in Springfield.
You guys know that that was a hoax from the beginning.
And you know why?
Because if it weren't, and if it were anyone even tangentially an ounce related to MAGA or President Donald Trump or this show, they would have leaked it to MSNBC.
They would have leaked it to CNN.
The emails?
You know they'd be playing that non-frickin' stop 24-7.
They'd probably be doing special coverage.
It'd be the new national anthem.
We never saw it.
And you know what I'm happy to bring you reporting now?
Mike DeWine, speaking of rhinos who need to be excommunicated from the Republican Party.
And by the way, the Republican Springfield mayor?
Fun fact, he donated to Democrats in the early 2000s.
But I'm sure he's really hardcore Trump, right?
Yeah.
Sure, his efforts to rebuke and fact-check Trump are not rooted in any political motivations.
Well, Mike DeWine just admitted that of the 33 The bomb threats that Springfield received, all of them, not 32, not 31, not a dozen, all of them turned out to be hoaxes.
All of them.
Is the media going to say that?
They're going to admit that?
I don't think so.
But that was the framing, right?
It's so convenient that that happens just as there's another Trump shooter where they're trying to draw that false equivalency.
And here's the most important part.
Not just that people like Bill Kristol have also treated the Republican Party like a special economic zone for far too long.
I'm not just talking the free trade policies, but the grifter consultant class like to see how much money you guys have made off of your failed brand of politics.
But this is why this issue is so important and why Springfield matters.
Because mark my words, if Trump loses, And we know they're already working to rig it behind the scenes.
They will do what they did with Mitt Romney in issuing that Republican autopsy report, which were hardcore devotees of the Steve Bannon canon.
You know that's why Steve really got into all this.
It's been a crucial bedrock of this show, and that is that they blamed Republican Party losses on not being for more immigration.
Too racist.
We need to court the Hispanic vote.
They will make what happened in Springfield and Trump's embrace of that, I'm sure aided and abetted by this fake bomb threat story, they will make that the issue that they will use to quash any discussion of immigration and mass migration in the United States.
And you know how I know they're going to do that?
Because they're already admitting it.
Remember that Huffington Post article we discussed, what was it, last week?
How the Koch network is back with a vengeance and they're already planning for a post-Trump to steal a word from MSNBC.
A post-Trump world order.
It all comes down to immigration.
And all these freaking weirdos, the Liz Cheney's, please leave the Republican Party.
No one wants you here anyways.
That is all a psychological projection, right?
This new PSYOP that they're rolling out trying to encourage Republicans to feel comfortable voting Democrat.
It's not anti-patriotic.
It's not unpatriotic to support Kamala Harris.
That is a psychological projection because that is where they want to bring the Republican Party.
They want to bring the Republican Party.
To the goalposts that Kamala Harris puts, where they will give you happy talk during the election.
Yeah, we're a little bit tough around border security.
But in reality, they're opening the floodgates and they're keeping them welded open intentionally.
And if you want to put barbed wire up, they're going to sue you for it.
That's what we're up against.
No wonder why crazy people think it's okay to assassinate Donald Trump.
Because they're right.
He is a threat to the elite establishment form of democracy.
But these people are so misguided that they think that they're on that side of the trade too.
We'll be back after this short break.
Eric Prince.
unidentified
Do you have any, to your knowledge, any ties to Martin County or the Treasure Coast?
To my knowledge, does he have any ties to Martin County?
To my knowledge, the answer is no, I have no knowledge.
I think what we're finding out is not from this area, which of course raises the bigger
question is how does a guy from not here get all the way to Trump International, realize
that the president?
president, former president of the United States is golfing and is able to get a rifle
in that vicinity.
I think that's the question the FBI, the Secret Service, or laser focused on today.
Is this guy part of a conspiracy?
Is he a lone gunman?
If he's a lone gunman, President Trump is that much safer because we have him.
But if he's part of a conspiracy, then this whole thing really takes on a very ominous
tone.
natalie winters
Welcome back to the Worm.
We're joined by Eric Prince.
That was a press conference happening not too long ago.
Also, some buried leads there admitting that the FBI was aware of the suspect since at least 2019.
Obviously, he has a checkered past when it comes to owning weapons of mass destruction, despite getting released on parole.
Eric, if we have you, I would love to just sort of get your thoughts, to use the word, Conspiracy.
When it comes to your thoughts on whether or not this individual was a lone actor, obviously this coming on the heels of reports of an Iranian plot to assassinate President Trump involving Pakistani nationals, with this guy also somehow being involved in trafficking Afghan nationals with Pakistani passports to fight for Ukraine.
There's a lot to unravel.
So your assessment of if you think this guy was a lone actor or not?
unidentified
And here's one other weird thread.
There's some indication that shows both the butler shooter and this guy yesterday both appeared in Black Rock TV commercials.
The statistical likelihood of that being random is impossible.
So that's why I got animated last night about how Florida needs to take the lead in this investigation because I just don't see the federal government, I don't see the FBI doing any kind of adequate job The Miami field office, the head agent there, was instructed to scrub all his social media before he was appointed there because he was so virulently anti-Trump.
This is the same field office that raided Mar-a-Lago on that bogus documents case.
So if we think that they're going to be suddenly truth-seeking, the same guys that indicted him on complete nonsense charges, We're kidding ourselves.
And so I really want Florida to flex up and assert, I mean, look, this was attempted murder in the state of Florida.
It's not just a federal crime.
That's a state crime.
And I think the feds have lost any and all credibility on this.
We don't know anything more about the Butler shooter.
The Dems have tried to, the media has just tried to memory hole that as something that doesn't exist.
And now we have two shooting attempts, two assassination attempts on the candidate for president.
Unprecedented in American history.
These threads have to be unspiraled, unwound, and the truth must come out because, you know, the left with their over-the-top, vitriolic, super toxic language saying Trump must be eliminated, he's a threat to democracy, he's Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, that gives license to every Crazy left-wing nutjob to try to go after him.
And this guy had his firearm firing position.
He was there for 12 hours with the ballistic plates against the fence, trying to get himself some cover from counter snipers.
And he had his GoPro posted there, mounted, ready, because he was trophy hunting.
He was there to be the hero of the left, to say, I killed Donald Trump.
I am the savior of democracy.
He appears to have been a psycho in Afghanistan.
Uh, with this manic, uh, fetish to try to help Ukraine.
And it appears the assassination of Trump became his latest crazy death wish.
And, um, it's, it's, it's rough.
And, and you know, once again, the it's, it's a good bit of luck and maybe a flutter of an angel's wings that saved Donald Trump.
Thanks be to God.
natalie winters
And I'm just curious, you know, when you're saying that you don't think the feds are up to task to
deal with this investigation, which I and I think the audience certainly concurs with you on that
sentiment. Do you think that they're up to task to then continue protecting him when it comes to the
discussion about how we keep President Trump safe as we barrel towards this election? Seems like
everyone's focusing on, you know, beefing up secure Secret Service resources. But do you think that
they are capable of doing this? Do you think they need to bring in more private security from your
perspective? How do you think we keep President Trump safe?
unidentified
I've heard some of my friends in the profession that have worked closely with the Secret Service over the years said there's 10 or 15 percent that are fantastic, super professional, Olympic-level performances.
They're the ones trying to carry all the water.
There's another 30 percent, 40 percent that are just bureaucrats, just marking time.
And there's the other half.
Which are truly useless.
So you have, like in many organizations, a small remnant, the ones that are the truly essential ones.
So my, you know, there's a lot of people saying, well, you know, private sector should supplement this and, you know, put private contractors on the president.
That is a mission exceedingly difficult for the private sector to do in a, in a mixed federal state.
law enforcement environment with authorities.
If you have to shoot somebody, um, now you have a lot of fingers, even more pointing.
I would advocate the best thing the presidential security needs is more of a robust advanced team.
You want to have a very, uh, you want predators.
You want people that are hunting that know how to hunt men that, uh, would look at the 10 ways that they would try to kill Donald Trump.
And then you make sure you plug those 10 channels.
And so I would use, there's a lot of latent capacity at JSOC in the special operations community, guys looking for a good mission right now.
And I think keeping the presidential candidates alive to have a valid election is a pretty essential national security mission.
And having them on the advance team would let them uh... use their very relevant knowledge on drones on snipers on standoff weapons to to fully affect uh... preventing all those avenues of attack
natalie winters
And Eric, I'm just curious, too, obviously when Thomas Matthew Crooks, you know, a 21 or something year old, is able to breach Secret Service, congressional investigators are having a joke, a mockery of an investigation.
I'm sure that that only works to invite more would-be assassins to try to attempt to assassinate.
President Trump, how do you think the failures and the ongoing failures when it comes to what happened in Butler are sort of inviting almost more attacks and more crazies to see that the Secret Service is failing in some ways in serious, serious capacities at their job?
unidentified
Weakness and failure invites more weakness and failure.
I'm glad the Secret Service found the shooter's final firing position yesterday.
His little, I mean, the plates on the fence, not too tactical.
A proficient sniper wearing a ghillie suit?
Or even a decent camouflage?
I mean, the guy was wearing a salmon t-shirt.
Salmon colored t-shirt.
If there was any kind of professionalism to it, we would have had a terrible outcome yesterday.
Again, the left, if they're serious about cohabiting in a republic,
They need to dial down the rhetoric and say, no, killing Donald Trump is absolutely not acceptable.
But you have a lot of people saying that.
And so it's hard to have a republic when one side wants to kill your presidential candidate.
natalie winters
And Eric, we've got to jump to a break.
I know you had a hard out.
If you can stay, we would love to have you.
But if not, no worries.
Let the audience know where they can follow you and stay up to date with all of your assessments on this certainly unfolding situation.
unidentified
I'm happy to come back, but they can follow me at realericdprince on X, and I have a podcast called Off Leash with Eric Prince.
natalie winters
Okay, we'll hold you through the break because I want to ask you where you think the DeSantis investigation kind of needs to start.
There's obviously a lot of threads that we could pull with this individual, like you were alluding to, whether it's Ukraine, Afghanistan, here at home, and like the press conference that we opened with, if he had associates, other people in on the conspiracy, something tells me, All Roads Lead.
To Ukraine, the guy also appeared in a commercial for the Azov battalion, like Jack Pacific was saying this morning, which has received your taxpayer dollars.
Now I guess at least we know what the Ukraine aid is going to.
We'll be right back after this short break with Erik Prince.
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unidentified
They aren't interested in recruiting them.
Ukraine is reluctant to be cooperative.
That's Ryan Roof, a U.S.
citizen who set up the International Volunteer Center in Ukraine to help connect foreigners to Ukrainian military units.
I'm talking to over 100 soldiers every day and pretty much everybody, all of my contacts in Ukraine, they were adamant and pretty much yelled at me every time that I suggested that we bring in Afghans.
The Ukrainian government didn't respond to our request for comment.
But a source close to the officials in Kiev told Semaphore that their top concern is the question of loyalty in the thick fog of war.
The biggest thing is spies.
They're afraid that anybody and everybody is a Russian spy.
Those concerns aren't completely unfounded.
And what are you doing here in Ukraine?
My initial goal was to come and fight.
I think everybody around the globe should be motivated to come here and support the Ukrainians and support the army.
No matter what gender, age, anything, everybody should be here supporting the army.
But I'm 56, so initially they were like, well, I have no military experience.
So they're like, you're not an ideal candidate.
So they said, not right this minute.
So plan B was to come here to Kiev and promote getting more people here.
You know, we need thousands and thousands and thousands of people here fighting with the Ukrainians.
We need, we need, you know, we've got 190 countries around the world And we need thousands from all over.
If the governments will not send their official military, then we civilians have to pick up the torch and make this thing happen.
And we've gotten some wonderful people here, but it's a small fraction of the number that should be here.
The purpose of the action is to appeal to world leaders, world organizations.
natalie winters
Two months have passed since the first, or two months or so, assassination attempt on President Donald J. Trump.
And what did Kamala Harris tell her supporters to do a few weeks, sorry, a few days ago?
You should go check out a Trump rally.
If I've ever seen a statement with a double meaning, I think I'd maybe start with that one.
I don't know if I'd be saying that, Kamala Harris, after one of, probably your supporters, even though you guys, you know, scrubbed the internet history, deleted all the chats, all that, probably supported you.
I don't know if I'd be telling your supporters to go to Trump rallies.
Interesting though now, Robert Ruth is sort of the foil of Thomas Matthew Crooks.
He's older, he's military trained, he has such a robust internet footprint.
It's almost like they're trying to make up for lost ground.
Also quite interesting to watch the way MSNBC has been covering this whole story.
I haven't gone, I think, one or two minutes without hearing them praise and gush over The Secret Service.
Almost like they're trying to regain and re-instill confidence in them after they lost it.
After what happened in Butler.
Well, you can work to earn it back, Secret Service.
You don't just get that handed back to you.
We're joined by Mike Benz, who was the first person that came to mind that I wanted to have to walk through all of this.
Now, Mike, there's so much.
Every time you come on, it's always hard trying to distill and choose what we want to focus on.
But with this individual, there are so many threads to pull.
So why don't you just take it away with your sort of top line findings and assessment on who this individual was?
mike benz
Yeah, it's all very preliminary right now because the amount of evidence, the amount of the paper trail, the social media trail is so explosive, so vast, it touches so many touch points.
You know, I just tweeted a few moments ago that this dude is like the Forrest Gump of CIA paramilitary activity.
You can almost spin the globe and find a place where there was CIA paramilitary activity and somehow Ryan Ruth has just sort of waltzed his way through, you know, almost a dozen of them from Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Haiti, Ukraine.
It's quite shocking, you know, the official story that this is just some North Carolina construction worker who happened to have a hankering for Ukraine is absolute nonsense.
The fact is is what this guy was doing and is in hundreds and hundreds of Facebook posts.
that I viewed on a stream last night, is what he was doing is he was collecting passports
for basically ISIS fighters, Al-Qaeda terrorists, who were at that time doing an influx into
Ukraine to attack and kill Russians and assisting essentially the NATO goal there.
Remember ISIS is who we're told is who bombed the Moscow movie theater just a few months
Isis is who's killing the Russians in Africa.
Isis is who's killing the Syrian government military folks in Assad.
If you remember the WikiLeaks cable from 2012 where Hillary Clinton wrote that Al-Qaeda
is on our side in Syria.
Remember, ISIS is the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.
And you have the Secretary of State who is effectively the quarterback of the CIA saying
that ISIS is on our side.
And so there was an influx starting in 2015 after the 2014 CIA coup to overthrow the democratically elected government of Ukraine when the eastern side of the eastern half of Ukraine broke away.
It became a breakaway republic and Crimea voted to join the Russian Federation.
That was when NATO and the CIA and British intelligence all embarked on this capacity building mission
to run guns, ammo, training, and warm human bodies to the new Kiev government
so that they would have the military wherewithal to invade the Western half of the state
that had just broken away and take it back by military force.
This is what precipitated Putin's invasion in 2022.
It was the invasion from the east of eastern Ukraine into western Ukraine.
And at that time, starting in 2015, these ISIS fighters began pouring into Ukraine and helping top up this ramshackle Ukrainian military force.
Now, what's so amazing is Ryan Ruth, Seem to be playing a prolific role in that.
He has an entire website dedicated to military recruiting of Afghan and Pakistani and Iranian militants to come to Ukraine.
He explicitly tells them multiple times on his website in big all caps, bold lettering, as well as in hundreds of Facebook posts.
Do not tell your local embassy that you are coming to Ukraine.
Don't say anything.
Just send me your passport information and take a plane to Ukraine or take a plane to Poland and ride a bus into Ukraine.
Now, why was he saying that?
Well, what Ryan Ruth was doing is he was collecting thousands, literally thousands of passports
of terrorists in foreign countries, in CIA war zones, and telling them to not tell their
local embassy that they're traveling, but instead go directly through him as a middleman
because he can secure them visas.
Now, something explosive that I found on a stream last night is that in some of his Facebook posts, he references his communications with the U.S.
Embassy in Kiev, the very U.S.
Embassy who overthrew the government, who orchestrated the CIA coup of the Ukrainian government in 2014.
And what this was, was he was collecting all these passports, setting up this giant operation on a static webpage, on social media, in WhatsApp channels.
In order to get no-look visas for terrorists, which, mind you, is the exact same operation that was written about in a book by Michael Springman, who was a senior State Department official in Saudi Arabia in the run-up to 9-11.
He wrote a book called Visas for Terrorists, and in that book he describes how he was working at the U.S.
consulate in Jeddah in Saudi Arabia in the run-up to 9-11.
And that most of the people in the consulate at the State Department were working for the CIA, and their formal cover was a State Department attache there.
His boss at the State Department also was working with the CIA.
Now, who was the head of the CIA station in Saudi Arabia at that time, when the CIA was pressuring him to give visas to terrorists?
Let me know if this name rings a bell.
At the time, the head of the CIA station house in Saudi Arabia was a man named John Brennan.
John Brennan was the man responsible, effectively, for giving visas out of Saudi Arabia to the 9-11 hijackers.
That same John Brennan, the head of the CIA station house doing this visas for terrorists operation, would become Obama's chief of the Central Intelligence Agency just years later.
And what Ryan Ruth appears to be doing is the same thing, except serving as You know, a fifth or sixth degree back channel for the same CIA visas for terrorist operation that happened in the run-up to 9-11.
natalie winters
So, Mike, I'm just curious where you think, the media's obviously saying this guy, you know, no political affiliations, no political motives, despite, like we said earlier, there's a Biden-Harris bumper sticker on his truck the guy's donated to Democrats.
They're sort of trying to bury all of this and make him just seem like, you know, a crazy conspiracy theorist.
Where do you think, whether it's the DeSantis investigation or just independent investigations, where do you think, and just give me a minute on this because we've got to jump to break, But if you were advising Congress or whoever's doing these investigations, where would you tell them to focus on the thread to pick at the most?
mike benz
I would look at all the contacts.
He name-dropped the WhatsApp phone numbers.
Those can be obtained, now WhatsApp, unlike Telegram, Is a subsidiary of Facebook.
It's based in the U.S.
So a court-ordered subpoena by congressional investigators or under a legal proceeding could obtain the WhatsApp records of all communications.
The fact is we have his whole follower list.
And it seemed like half the people he was following were CIA and State Department people.
We have this guy's network.
You can simply trace the network.
Now the issue is You know, who was he working for as a, you know, as a subcontract?
The fact is, is Michael Springman describes this in Visas for Terrorists that there is this, you know, the spy masters have this complex recruiting process that It's a shell game that only the Biden criminal family enterprise, I think, could compete with, right?
And the fact that this was a crazy person is no surprise because oftentimes those say
natalie winters
it's a shell game that only the the Biden criminal family enterprise I think could compete
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We've got to jump to a break.
But Mike, I've obviously got more questions I want to ask you.
So Warren Posse, stay tuned and buckle up.
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natalie winters
Welcome back to The War Room, where the story gets even more twisted and darker and more dangerous
when it comes to the suspected shooter's foreign overseas ties.
Mike Pence, if you could sort of pick up where you left off, but how the Iran plot, which people may have seen break a few weeks ago, also involving Pakistani nationals, sort of segues and overlaps with this in a, I would say, conspiratorially curious way.
mike benz
Well, it's stunning.
It was only one month ago, about like five weeks ago, we were told that the CIA had foiled an attempted assassination plot against Donald Trump by a Pakistani national with ties to Iran who was plotting a murder-for-hire operation to have somebody in the United States shoot Donald Trump.
Now, Ryan Ruth, I have an article pulled up right here.
That was cited by Rahim Kassam, where this is Ryan Ruth was seeking recruits from among Afghan soldiers who fled the Taliban.
Mr. Ruth, who spent several months in Ukraine last year, said he planned to move them, in some cases illegally, from Pakistan and Iran to Ukraine.
He said dozens expressed interest.
He actually said thousands on his on his Facebook page.
And then Ryan Ruth continued, we can probably purchase some passports through Pakistan, such as such a corrupt country, he said in an interview from Washington.
So Ryan Ruth is bringing Pakistani nationals through Iran to his war fighting effort.
He's the guy who we're told just attempted to assassinate Trump.
A month ago, the CIA said they had advanced knowledge of a plot to assassinate Trump That was connected to Pakistani nationals traveling through Iran.
Now, you know, not to put the cart before the horse, but Ryan Ruth sounds like exactly the operation the CIA described a month ago.
natalie winters
I thought you were pausing.
I know the audience is going to kill me for interrupting you, so keep going.
mike benz
It's fine.
You really can.
I'll make one more point.
natalie winters
You were pausing for dramatic effect, so it was very dramatic.
mike benz
Well, just to sort of bring it back to earth, the fact is Ryan Ruth was crisscrossing through the holy Trinity of blob craft, which is the Pentagon, the CIA and the State Department in the sense that this was a military operation in Ukraine to capacity build the Ukrainian army and to beef up the ranks with more cannon fodder.
It was a CIA operation in the sense that this is plausibly deniable.
You know, human trafficking, essentially, and criminal activity that would normally be a felony crime, but you are allowed to commit authorized crimes as part of the CIA in furtherance of a national security operation as long as you have Justice Department blessing.
And the fact is, is what he was doing was highly illegal.
I mean, not only did he have 70 felonies on his record, which is stunning in itself, But then this whole no-look visas, send me your passports and I'll back channel it to the U.S.
Embassy in Ukraine.
That's the CIA operation in visas for terrorists that we were doing and they're up to 9-11.
And then you have the only people who can grant those visas are the State Department.
So Ryan Ruth was serving as a State Department back channel for the CIA Visas for Terrorist operation to assist the Pentagon.
You literally, he's right smack dab in the exact center of where the CIA meets the DOD meets the State Department.
And just so people understand, he is a crazy person.
You know, he obviously has that sort of E. Gene Carroll, kooky eye.
You know, sort of cadence to his interviews.
But the fact is, this is not uncommon.
Because oftentimes the way this happens is the CIA has an operation or the U.S.
Special Forces has an operation where they want to recruit crazy extremists to come fight a war a zillion miles away from where they live.
And they need highly deniable links in that recruiting process so that there's no U.S.
fingerprints on these terrorists coming on U.S.
dime or coming to fight a U.S.
operation.
They have to look independent.
So what happens is they put layers of layers of plausible deniability.
The CIA will work through USAID or work through DynCorp or work through the RAND Corporation networks.
They will then subcontract that out, who will then subcontract that out to someone who's trusted in the network.
And that person may go to their individual friends and family, somebody that they have a connection to, someone who's down on their luck and just needs some cash.
That person starts, you know, trawling around in Telegram channels or WhatsApp channels or social media and starts recruiting people, starts to develop a network.
As they prove themselves, they're given a little bit more side cash, maybe in a crypto account, maybe in an offshore bank account.
And then as that person sort of proves their utility, they get more and more responsibility in terms of these compartmentalized recruiting operations.
It's quite possible that some friend or family member, you know, the guy grew up in North Carolina.
That is military central.
That's where Fort Bragg is, the largest special operations center in the US.
I believe it's only about an hour from where he lived.
It's also the largest psychological operations center in the US.
It's quite possible that he had friends in the military when this special operation to beef up the Ukrainian military was greenlit.
They went to friends and family and gave them small tasks at first and over the process of months and years that operation expanded and that's how he got into it but still You know, saying he was an unemployed construction worker.
But even that, you know, he could have been building construction, you know, ramshackle homes for some of the human trafficking he was running.
natalie winters
I know the audience is going to kill me, but I don't get to choose when the show ends, believe me.
I'm not a deep state subcontractor, but Mike Pence, in the meantime, people want to follow you.
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Yeah.
Thank you so much for joining us.
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