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This is what you're fighting for. | ||
I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power. | ||
Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
This is just like in Georgia. | ||
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
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As we've told you, this is the fight. | |
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | ||
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Some families have two moms or two dads. | ||
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All families can help each other be strong. | ||
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you Good evening, everyone, and to the War Room Posse, my name is Terry Schilling, president of American Principles Project, doing my best to fill in the gaps for the unreplaceable, irreplaceable Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
It is August 27th, 2024, in the year of our Lord, and I am honored and thrilled to be joined here with my very good friend and partner in crime, Tiffany Justice, president of Moms Really Ready. | ||
Tiffany? | ||
Thank you for having me today. | ||
I'm so excited, but I will not lie. | ||
Coming in here and not having Steve in that chair is hard, but I do really appreciate you've got the pens going, so that's making me feel at home. | ||
Stop. | ||
Stop. | ||
Rewind that. | ||
Reverse it. | ||
We're going to be doing some Steve Vanna impressions a little bit, but Tiffany, you've got a huge conference coming up here. | ||
We got the March for Kids. | ||
What I appreciate, though, about Moms for Liberty and something that we try to replicate at APP is you guys don't doom. | ||
You don't gloat. | ||
You get to work and I think that's more important than ever today. | ||
You go on social media and it's just full of dooming and gloating and very few workers. | ||
And so can you talk a little bit about the conference coming up? | ||
Who's going to be there? | ||
What you know what's going on there? | ||
Yeah, I'm very excited about the summit here in D.C. | ||
at the JW Marriott downtown. | ||
Starts on Thursday night. | ||
Rob Schneider is joining us, which is awesome. | ||
I'm so excited to chat with him and Seth Dillon from Babylon Beats. | ||
So that's how we'll kick off the night with a little laughter, bring people together, right? | ||
Some of the things that we're dealing with right now are so crazy and ridiculous. | ||
You have to laugh, and I think it's good for our souls. | ||
So that's how we'll start. | ||
And then Friday is a very full day. | ||
The first panel, Terry, that we're going to do is a changemaker panel. | ||
And I've been planning this for months. | ||
And then when RFK came out and endorsed President Trump, it just felt like such an amazing moment | ||
that we're going to be able to bring together Tulsi Gabbard, Jennifer Say, who was a VP | ||
at Levi's, who left her job because of COVID mandates and policies, and she was fighting | ||
against it, fighting for her kids. | ||
It'll be Maud Maron, who was on the Community Education Council in New York City, in Manhattan. | ||
And then the Chancellor of Education, Chancellor Banks there, took her off. | ||
So she was elected and then removed by Chancellor Banks. | ||
Lovely. | ||
And then a rep from Texas. | ||
And you and I were just talking about Texas a little bit. | ||
A rep, Sean Terry, who's a Democrat, who stood with Republicans on the issue against gender transition and stood up for kids and stood against the horrible Pornographic books and libraries. | ||
And so she was the only Democrat to do that. | ||
And she's going to come and tell her story. | ||
No, look, it's an all star cast. | ||
You guys are getting to work. | ||
Sean Terry, by the way, not only champion the legislation in the Texas Statehouse to get these books out of schools, she got punished for voting to ban these gender mutilation surgeries that they're pushing. | ||
So if you had any doubt that this that this stuff is critical and paramount in the Democratic Party, this is their litmus test. | ||
If you are against the Democratic Party's push to empower big pharma and these hospital systems and these mutilating doctors over children, if you're off the off the reservation on that for them, You're out. | ||
They're going to primary you. | ||
They're going to throw millions of dollars against you and they're going to kick you out. | ||
And so it's so awesome that Sean is, you know, leading the charge against this. | ||
Tiffany, I want to get into like the work that you guys are doing in the States, but I want to go further into the doomers. | ||
Because I can't stand the Doomers. | ||
The Black Pillars need to go. | ||
I have harsher words, but I don't think I can say them on the air. | ||
I promised Cameron that I would not get any FCC violations. | ||
But guys, this is a jump. | ||
It's a jump ball. | ||
You know, after every national convention for the political parties, there's usually a big bump afterwards. | ||
We are seeing that Kamala Harris has received no bump. | ||
I want to repeat, no bump. | ||
National polling puts Trump at plus 3. | ||
Arizona, Trump plus 3. | ||
Pennsylvania, Trump plus 4. | ||
Pennsylvania, Trump plus 1. | ||
Ohio, Trump plus 12. | ||
Wisconsin, Harris plus 1. | ||
Michigan, Harris plus 2. | ||
This is a jump ball, Tiffany. | ||
It is not anything to doom over. | ||
It really is. | ||
And I'm just going to point people to the video that played before you and I started talking, right? | ||
So apparently it's this guy from Modern Family who made this documentary about Drag Queen Story Hour, right? | ||
I was thinking back to Modern Family, and they were a modern family, right? | ||
They had two dads, right? | ||
They had a gay couple and they had a blended family. | ||
And, you know, then they had a more traditional mom and dad family. | ||
And, you know, OK, so Modern Family was represented. | ||
You know what I didn't see on that show was all of the radical policies. | ||
That the Democrats are pushing, like cutting off the healthy breasts of children, like masking and closing schools, right? | ||
Stuff that we know they would do again right now. | ||
And so I think that there's a real fracture in the Democrat Party. | ||
I think that, you know, I asked you what percentage of voters aren't okay with gender transition for minors. | ||
We'll just take that issue alone. | ||
You said like 30%. | ||
That's huge. | ||
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30% of the Democratic Party voters are against this stuff. | |
I think with Republicans, almost 100%. | ||
But if you think about 30% of their voters aren't okay with the gender transition surgery, And other issues. | ||
They have a lot of fracturing happening within their party. | ||
And I think they're very, very vulnerable. | ||
And with the RFK endorsement, I think it just gives permission to Democrats to be able to stand up and speak out and to question the party. | ||
And you're going to see more and more of that because we know courage is contagious and that works both ways. | ||
No, it absolutely doesn't. | ||
And this is the thing the other so you see the dooming some accounts online, you see the gloating online. | ||
The other thing that's killing me lately is the nitpicking. | ||
Yeah, right. | ||
I mean, if there was ever a clear election or a clear contrast between the two opponents or to the candidates, it was it's this election. | ||
It is not it is so obvious who the candidate is that supports every day. | ||
And I'm going to use this word I know it's offensive, normal Americans. | ||
Normal Americans. | ||
People that just believe that men are men and women are women. | ||
They don't care. | ||
They want to leave everyone else alone, but they just want to stay away from kids. | ||
They don't think kids should learn about this crazy stuff in school they're pushing. | ||
They don't want men and girls sports. | ||
They want women to be protected. | ||
They actually support civil rights law as it was originally intended and written. | ||
This election, as Sarah Huckabee said, it is about crazy versus normal, and the contrast cannot be bigger. | ||
And with that, I actually want to bring in someone that I met along the campaign trail at the Republican National Convention this year. | ||
Many of you guys are familiar with Riley Gaines, an absolute rock star who has put everything into the effort to save women's sports and get back to normalcy when it comes to gender. | ||
But one person I was shocked that I hadn't really heard of before was an amazing woman named Paula Scanlon, who's joining us now. | ||
Paula Scanlon is actually a collegiate swimmer, and she was forced to swim on the same swim team as Leah Thomas, the male who claims to be a woman who actually tied for third place with Riley Gaines at that major conference, a national championship. | ||
But Paula is here. | ||
Paula, tell us about your experience with swimming with Leah Thomas and all the things. | ||
Some of the things you shared with me were absolutely shocking. | ||
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Thank you so much for having me today. | |
I've done some stuff with Tiffany, so we're in great company. | ||
But I mean, it was as insane as you could imagine. | ||
I mean, the gaslighting that they put us women through. | ||
We were on this team and we were forced to undress with this six foot four tall plus male individual with fully intact with male genitalia. | ||
Eighteen times every single week they made us do this. | ||
And when we tried to go to the athletic department and our coaches and the administration, | ||
they told us that him being on the team was a non-negotiable. | ||
They said if we ever spoke out against it, we would be labeled for the rest of our lives | ||
as hateful and bigoted. | ||
We would never be able to find a job. | ||
They even compared it to the next civil rights movement. | ||
They said if you do not want to undress in front of this six foot four tall man, | ||
that it is equivalent to not wanting to undress with someone based on their race. | ||
It was madness. | ||
I would just like to say, I would just like to say also | ||
that I was with Riley the other day and we were talking and she was talking about just putting on your swimsuit | ||
and how it's not just like a normal undressing and dressing, but that like, you know, | ||
it takes a while to get those swimsuits on. | ||
So it's a very vulnerable experience to be in a locker room with a bunch of women | ||
that are changing in and out of those suits several times a day. | ||
I just can't even imagine, Paula. | ||
Paula, I'm wondering, you know, how like the coercion factor here, that is what kills me, because we're told all the all the time that there is a massive rape culture in America. | ||
And I actually believe that. | ||
And I think that it's actually part of what the left has been building towards. | ||
When, you know, when you tear down every single barrier around sex and sexual interactions, except for consent, this is where it leads. | ||
And when you tell young men that they they can't control themselves, right, it leads to this type of stuff. | ||
But I think that what you dealt with here is even worse than that. Not only were you forced to | ||
undress and be in the same locker rooms, a very vulnerable place, right? I think about my daughters | ||
and putting them in those positions. This is what laws are meant to do. They're meant to protect the | ||
vulnerable, right? You don't pass laws to protect the strong and the powerful. They already have | ||
abilities to defend themselves. So I'm wondering if you can talk a little bit more about your | ||
experiences with the coercion factor, because it seems to me that this is not just a one-off, | ||
that you're not the only person being coerced and the women on your swim team were not the | ||
only ones. This is happening all across the country. | ||
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Yeah, I mean, we're seeing stories, the Loudoun County, Virginia bathroom story, if people are familiar with that, awful. | |
And that is exactly why we need to have these rules, right? | ||
Because we're allowing men to self-ID, saying it doesn't matter what surgeries you've received, it doesn't matter who you are or what you're attracted to or whatever. | ||
If you identify as a woman, you are now welcomed and entitled to these spaces. | ||
And the only men that are going to be doing that are predators. | ||
Terry, I can't imagine that you would want to go and undress in a woman's locker room, right? | ||
I mean, the only men that are doing this are the sick in the head, and that's what's so crazy. | ||
And I was having a conversation with a friend about the same thing, right? | ||
A male friend was telling me Only a sick man would want to do that. | ||
He would never dream of that. | ||
You would never dream of that. | ||
My father, my brother, they would never dream of doing that. | ||
And so that's really what we're opening the doors to the worst people. | ||
We're teaching girls also to ignore their instincts. | ||
Every moment that we felt uncomfortable in that locker room, We were told, you're wrong, you're hateful, you're the problem, and we're reprogramming our instincts to say, actually, you need to welcome these predatory men into your spaces. | ||
And I think that's what's so dangerous. | ||
And this is minors that this is happening to. | ||
In my situation, we were all 18 and up. | ||
But this is happening to young girls, right, in high school, in middle school. | ||
I've heard of even elementary school girls who are uncomfortable because there's now boys coming into their bathrooms. | ||
Listen, I couldn't agree more. | ||
And you know, at best, this is rude, right? | ||
Like being in a space where other people don't want you at best, it's rude. | ||
And we all try to be polite. | ||
And you know, if someone doesn't want you around, the polite thing to do is to not be around them, right? | ||
And there are limits to that. | ||
But at worst, and this is what it is, is it's predatory. | ||
Right. | ||
It's important to instill in young girls self-confidence to where they if they don't feel comfortable around someone, if they don't feel comfortable with someone touching them or being around them or undressing around them, they're absolutely justified in not wanting to be around them and not having to put up with that. | ||
Two things. | ||
First of all, what percentage of Democrat voters don't believe that men should be in women's locker rooms, right? | ||
They are there. | ||
Start talking to them. | ||
And then the other thing is, Terry, I just want to say, this is exactly what social emotional learning is doing in the public school system with the younger kids. | ||
They're programming them to say, well, if you're uncomfortable with something, then you need to change. | ||
And women shouldn't get comfortable with men undressing in our private spaces with us. | ||
It's absolutely ridiculous. | ||
No, if you feel uncomfortable, you shouldn't have to put up with it. | ||
And here's the thing. | ||
There are one, two, and it's going to keep happening, right? | ||
They're creating more of this. | ||
It's like the Bill Maher quote. | ||
Either Ohio is suppressing them or California is creating them. | ||
And that's the reality. | ||
The reality is that they're creating them. | ||
They're confusing these people. | ||
And I will say this. | ||
I think the situation that we have with the Internet and the websites and how we don't have any protections for young people or kids or any accountability for some of the websites that are out there and the content that they're promoting. | ||
I think it's criminal and it's making creepy people. | ||
But these are predators. | ||
These are people that absolutely don't care about making other people feel uncomfortable, which is a red flag. | ||
Sometimes they get off on that part. | ||
Right, right. | ||
When you don't care about making other people uncomfortable, that is a major red flag. | ||
That's like textbook sociopathic behavior. | ||
Correct. | ||
But that's what the public schools are doing. | ||
I mean, they are creating little social justice warriors, little sociopaths, in a way, who are just... I mean, at the same time, you have to be kind and nice and empathetic to everyone, but you also can center yourself anywhere that you want to center yourself. | ||
And no longer is it about making accommodations to public school, but it's now, you know, making sure that The kids aren't thinking for themselves. | ||
And that they're also questioning everything that they're being taught at home. | ||
Paula, I want to turn it to you because I like... | ||
Go on. | ||
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No, just to go on with what Tiffany was saying. | |
I mean, just the University of Pennsylvania put all of us women on the team, actual women, okay, they excluded Leah Thomas, the man from this meeting. | ||
And they sat us all down and told all those things I mentioned before. | ||
But the other thing that they said is they said, if you still have a problem with this, please seek psychological services. | ||
So we are now in an age where they're recommending we go seek counseling because we do not want to undress next to a man and have him watch us on Completely naked, right? | ||
They're doing this all over. | ||
We're also taking the psychological services, this whole industry of therapy, and they're using it to put women into situations that are dangerous. | ||
And I think that that is just sort of touching on what Tiffany was saying just now, right? | ||
That we're reprogramming everyone, we're changing the norms of society, and we're saying to people who are uncomfortable, I somehow need to go to a therapist to make myself better, because I don't want to undress next to a man. | ||
Like, am I missing something? | ||
No, Paula, you know, everyone in the audience, and I think the vast majority of Americans, if they could hear your story, if we had a mainstream legacy media that would actually tell these groundbreaking stories, right? | ||
These are what you are going through right now is like a Rosa Parks situation. | ||
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Right. | |
You are having your rights infringed in one of the worst possible ways ever, where you are being made to feel like the enemy, like you are the bad guy. | ||
You are the evil one for not wanting to do what every other woman before you never had to do. | ||
Women, women were never forced about to do this. | ||
Right. | ||
And when they were, that's when women were fighting for their rights to get their own private spaces. | ||
That was the premise behind civil rights for women in this country was so that they didn't have to go into men's rooms and lock rooms and showers and bathrooms, that they could have their own private spaces so that they could enter the workforce, so that they could go to schools. | ||
That was the entire premise of civil rights law. | ||
But Paula, I want to I want you to speak to something, because I think it's very important. | ||
A lot of people think about politics as being separate from culture. | ||
And I want to make this very clear. | ||
Politics in America, because of our founding, because of our situation with our government being a democracy or representative republic, however you want to frame it, people get to vote. | ||
Politics in America is part of the culture. | ||
And it's driving all of this stuff into the issue set, right? | ||
You are having to deal with this, not because of some social fad that's going on. | ||
You are having to deal with this because legislators and people in positions of authority are making policies and passing laws forcing you to go along with this. | ||
So I want to ask you to speak to that. | ||
I want you to actually We obviously know that Kamala Harris is horrific on this issue and will actually mandate this in all 50 states. | ||
We've gotten 25 states down to protect girls' sports. | ||
Kamala Harris' legislation, the Equality Act, would actually erase all those laws and pit the federal government into forcing the schools to go along with this. | ||
So I'd like you, please, to just share your words, act like you were talking directly to Kamala Harris, and tell her what's on your mind and why she's wrong about this. | ||
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Okay, well, I'm going to have to tone it down a little bit because obviously I would like to say something. | |
We got the FCC here. | ||
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Not appropriate for online because this makes me angry. | |
I think to keep it to keep this pretty brief. | ||
You are an idiot for thinking that you don't know what a woman is. | ||
I mean, look at all the things in society and people are screaming saying they can't wait to vote for Kamala Harris because she's the first, she could be the first woman president and they don't even know what the word means. | ||
Oh, they know what it means. | ||
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By allowing men to self ID, okay, you are opening the doors to every opportunity in society that you can think of that women have received to being, to welcoming men. | |
So this is not just in sports. | ||
This is Scholarships. | ||
You could be looking at generations of women now not being allowed to go to college at all, right? | ||
Because there's female only scholarships. | ||
You could be an excelling student in whatever course it is, and you get a scholarship to go to college. | ||
You get a scholarship for athletics. | ||
Every single one of those opportunities can now be taken by someone that's male You can send your 17-year-old daughter off to college, she gets a randomly assigned roommate, that can be a boy. | ||
What, Terry? | ||
That's happening now. | ||
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Would you want that for your kids? | |
I mean, this is just looking at the complete erasure of society. | ||
If we don't know what a man and a woman is and the difference between the two, nothing else matters. | ||
All the other issues that everyone's talking about, abortion, they scream about that, right? | ||
You can't even have those issues if you don't know the difference between man and woman. | ||
So everything really stems down from this. | ||
And if we can't figure this out, none of the other policies matter. | ||
Well, I don't think you'd have a society without common agreements on what reality is, right? | ||
I mean, a society has to agree on certain things. | ||
You don't always have to agree on how to do things or the problems to fix, but you have to at least agree on what a man is, what a woman is. | ||
What a family is, right? | ||
You have to agree on some basic premises for a society to exist. | ||
You can disagree about how to handle those things and how to go about them. | ||
But you have to, you can't be a United States of America if we don't even know what a woman is. | ||
If we're dividing even the most basic definitions of things that we know to be true, have known to be true for the all of existence of human existence, then we know what a woman is. | ||
We know what a man is. | ||
Can I talk about culture war for a second? | ||
Because the one thing when RFK spoke and he made that speech, he said something about he didn't care about the other issues in the culture war. | ||
And I think what you said about the culture being a part of politics is so incredibly important. | ||
We are in the middle of a cultural revolution. | ||
It's not like a culture war. | ||
And there's some like, Like, I don't want to, honestly, I don't need to be doing, like, I don't want to do this. | ||
I would like to be home cooking dinner for my family, right? | ||
Like, I, there were things I did in my own community that I really enjoyed. | ||
And so, like, being a part of this and fighting in the culture war, we didn't start the culture war. | ||
We didn't start this fire. | ||
We're going to put it out because they put porn in our kids' public school libraries, and they have drag queens sitting on the floor, men dressed up like women, mocking us, reading to our children, and somehow trying to brainwash us, like, this is okay. | ||
We're going to put the fire out. | ||
But so I just think that the place where we go in the evolution of this conversation is, you know, with RFK. | ||
OK, thank you for coming. | ||
And now we'd like to talk to you about some of our concerns, too, because we are in the middle of a cultural revolution and media and the schools are two of the biggest battlegrounds. | ||
Paula, we need to blow you up. | ||
I want as many people to hear your story because they're certainly not going to hear it or read about it in the New York Times or see it on MSNBC or CNN. | ||
Can you share with people where they can find you online and how they can follow your work? | ||
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Yep. | |
I'm pretty active on Twitter. | ||
Paula, why Scanlon? | ||
I'm also on Instagram. | ||
I mean, you know, where am I not getting strikes? | ||
They seem to just shut shut down. | ||
I post something and I say I had I was teammates with a man and I get tagged with misinformation because they'll say something like, Leah Thomas is actually a trans woman. | ||
Well, I'm sorry. | ||
I hate to break it to you, but a trans woman is actually a man. | ||
So we have to be precise with our language here. | ||
And I think continuing to do this fight. | ||
I mean, Tiffany, I've done stuff with you before. | ||
You are wonderful. | ||
And again, I don't want to do this either, but we have to do this. | ||
We have to for the next generation. | ||
This is not about myself. | ||
This is not about Riley. | ||
This is about the next generation of children that depend on foundations and agreement in society. | ||
Thank you so much for joining us, Paula. | ||
Before we go to the break, we're about done with this segment. | ||
We are going to lead in with a new culture war, the culture war documentary that we worked on with Steve Bannon. | ||
We got President Trump to sit down with us and talk about what has been happening in our military and how our woke generals, Biden and Kamala Harris, have waged a woke culture war against our men and women in uniform, and that has led to deadly consequences. | ||
So check it out and we will be back after the break. | ||
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I didn't really call Madison or the Defense Department many times. | ||
I said, hey, this has got to be a mistake. | ||
Can you get your comms department, your PAO, your public affairs officer, can you get those out right now? | ||
I'm sure there's some inadvertent leak from the Pentagon. | ||
And he said, oh, no, no, no, no. | ||
We've had a study, and we've been doing this and working on this for years. | ||
This is a joint policy, and this is out. | ||
And I go, hang on a second. | ||
Let me understand this. | ||
This transgender thing, like people in the military, we would actually pay for this? | ||
We would pay for the surgeries for these people? | ||
Oh, no, this is policy. | ||
We've worked on this for years. | ||
I said, hey, full stop. | ||
Let me hear this again. | ||
And he goes through the whole litany of transgenderism, this, and I said, and not just, you're going to keep them in the military, you're going to promote them, you're going to have surgeries, you're going to have aftercare. | ||
And I look at this thing, it's billions of dollars. | ||
And I said, have you lost your f***ing mind? | ||
And he gives me, I said, hang on a second. | ||
He said, come down. | ||
We walk right to the Oval Office. | ||
I asked President Trump, hey, can we clear some time out? | ||
The general's got to tell you something. | ||
And I said, give him the pitch, tell him what you just announced. | ||
And he gives it to Trump, and Trump just sits there. | ||
And President Trump is a great listener. | ||
I mean, he's not a guy in meetings, throwing, telling people what to do. | ||
He listens, lets arguments go, and then comes in and makes decisions. | ||
He looks at Mattis and goes, at the end of it goes, excuse me, what are you talking about? | ||
And it's just, he says, he says, well, it's already done. | ||
It's done. | ||
Nothing could happen. | ||
President Trump goes, calls the hoe picks who's out there and says, hey, can you get Don McGahn? | ||
Who's the White House counsel. | ||
He says, get Don McGahn out here. | ||
Tell him to bring a yellow pad. | ||
With Mattis sitting right there. | ||
And he gets down there and he says, look, how quickly can I get, when these executive orders, we had President Trump kind of trained by that time. | ||
How quickly can you get this thing? | ||
I'm going to put it on an executive order right now. | ||
In fact, you're going to write it down and we're just going to do it. | ||
And he drafted an executive order countermandering everything. | ||
The Pentagon says, hey, look, here's what we're going to do about that. | ||
Nothing. | ||
In fact, I'm reversing everything. | ||
I don't give a damn about your report. | ||
You can do that on Title IX. | ||
Good evening and welcome back to part two of War Room today. | ||
It is August 27th, 2024 in the year of our Lord. | ||
Welcome back, War Room Posse. | ||
I am joined by my very good friend and partner in crime, Tiffany Justice, Moms4Liberty. | ||
Tiffany, what'd you think about the trailer? | ||
I thought it was fantastic. | ||
And just to hear kind of the inner workings about the way that President Trump works and the way he makes decisions. | ||
I've heard that before, right? | ||
He kind of, you know, brings the best people in, lets the arguments go, and then makes a decision. | ||
And it gives me a lot of hope that a lot of this crazy nonsense that's happening right now in America, we're going to be able to reverse very quickly. | ||
No, I think that's right. | ||
For everyone that's watching War Room, if you want to go to culturewardoc.com, you can see the full-fledged trailer. | ||
We did a unique trailer just for the War Room Posse. | ||
We want to make sure you guys know that Steve Bannon sat down with us. | ||
President Trump is in this documentary. | ||
And when Steve is talking in that short clip that we played, about President Trump being an interesting guy, how he how he's actually soliciting a lot of advice. | ||
And, you know, when he sat down with us, that's exactly the impression that I had. | ||
He asked us so many questions. | ||
He was interested in what our thoughts were and what what we thought needed to happen. | ||
He he is one of the most fascinating guys. | ||
And I think it's absolutely criminal what the legacy media has done, not just to him and his reputation. | ||
He's a fantastic American president, but what they have deprived the American people of. | ||
Which is a president that we should all be revering and really loving as much as Reagan or FDR or JFK. | ||
I agree and you know it's funny since the RFK endorsement I've had a lot of people like throw things back at me that RFK believes in or that he said before and said look you're supporting this you're supporting this. | ||
I actually have so much confidence in President Trump. | ||
to be able to bring RFK in a room to have influence on something, | ||
but then for other people to be able to fight back, like you or me to fight back, | ||
on the gender stuff, for example, where RFK is really squishy. | ||
And I think if he really stands for kids, he's going to ban, you know, he's going to be for banning gender transition | ||
for minors. | ||
But, you know, I have confidence that the best ideas really do come through | ||
when you have that type of a president. | ||
Listen, I think, you know, when RFK Jr. | ||
came out and endorsed Trump, he said that he was primarily doing it because of the Democrats' war on free speech, the war on Ukraine, and the war on children. | ||
And he wasn't just talking about the vaccines and the food stuff. | ||
He came out earlier in the year and actually opposed gender affirmation, Carolee. | ||
That's a focus group term if I ever heard one. | ||
But he came out and opposed puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones and surgeries for kids. | ||
This is the coalition. | ||
This is the 50 plus one majority coalition that we are building towards in this country. | ||
The people that think that there's still normal, there's still goodness, that America can be made whole. | ||
We have to just get rid of the corruption, the rod at the top. | ||
No dooming, start working. | ||
That's right. | ||
We're done with Doomers. | ||
They're out. | ||
Tiffany, what's going on in the States? | ||
You guys are full. | ||
You know, you guys know better than anyone that this is a pajama ball because you're in the States. | ||
Where are you guys focused? | ||
What are you doing? | ||
What does the audience need to do to get involved and engage? | ||
Yeah, I mean, there are some really great groups that are doing get out the vote around the United States. | ||
I just want to give a shout out to Turning Point. | ||
They helped to make that RFK thing happen. | ||
I think there was so much energy and momentum that they harnessed there. | ||
And I'm just incredibly proud of the work that they're doing and really impressed. | ||
But we are working in four target states to get out the vote. | ||
We want people to vote on issues at Moms4Liberty. | ||
We want them to be really informed. | ||
So when they go to the ballot box and they are making decisions, they know who they're putting on their school board. | ||
And then they know where, on the issue of parental rights, every single other person on that ballot stands on that issue. | ||
And that's how they're voting, up-ballot. | ||
So Wisconsin, Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia is where we're primarily focusing. | ||
We're focusing on, like, unlikely voters, people that haven't turned out before, people that maybe now, you know, you and I talked about before, 30% of the Democrat Party doesn't like the radical policies of Waltz and Harris. | ||
So, you know, we want those voters and we're making sure that they're informed. | ||
So when they're going to the ballot box, they know exactly where people stand on the issues and they can get the right people into those positions. | ||
No, that's right. | ||
One thing, you know, we talked earlier about the dooming, the gloating, how those aren't helpful, but also the nitpicking. | ||
And we've actually asked my other good friend, Josh Hammer, to join us. | ||
And he's actually just had a show earlier today about this. | ||
Josh, what's going on? | ||
What are you seeing? | ||
And tell us about the nitpicking that we are seeing going on online. | ||
Yeah, great to join you guys. | ||
As always, Terry, you're doing a very capable job filling in for the irreplaceable Stephen K. Vann and Tiffany Yu as well, of course, here. | ||
Look, so, I mean, those of us who spend a decent amount of time online, you know, on Twitter, various other online spaces, I mean, there has been this kind of internecine kind of flame war over the past week. | ||
Within the pro-life movement and MAGA, Trump, about the abortion issue. | ||
You know, Terry, you and I have discussed this issue at great length. | ||
I mean, literally going years and years and years back. | ||
I mean, I am someone who has spoken at pro-life conferences. | ||
I mean, when I was a first year law student at the University of Chicago, I literally founded the Law Students for Life chapter because it had died a few years prior. | ||
I brought it back and then marched in sub-zero temperatures in downtown Chicago the next year | ||
for life on the day of the March 5th. | ||
So I mean, I am very much all in on this issue. | ||
Nonetheless, you see a lot of people, my fellow pro-lifers who I, you know, look, | ||
I mean, not necessarily for wholly, for wholly bad reasons, but they're starting to complain a lot. | ||
I'm not going to name names there. | ||
You can kind of do your own digging and see who I'm talking about. | ||
And I'm not going to defend every single thing that has been said on the campaign trail. | ||
I personally support a full-on national abortion abolition. | ||
I believe that this issue, much like slavery in the 1850s, ultimately cannot be decided at the state level, | ||
but that a national resolution, ideally under the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause, | ||
is ultimately the way that this thing gets resolved, legislatively or judicially. | ||
But the point, Terry, is that this is a long process, and I would like to think that my pro-lifers understand | ||
that after having just endured 49 years | ||
of the barbaric Roe versus Wade regime. | ||
I mean, it is tragic that it took 49 years to overturn Roe vs. Wade in the 2022 Dobbs case, but it nonetheless took 49 years. | ||
These things take time. | ||
And right now, the focus and the onus, I think, for the pro-life movement, Terry, has to be to go state by state, precinct by precinct, church by church, synagogue by synagogue, and to actually change hearts and minds on this issue. | ||
Because, you know, Abraham Lincoln famously said, That, you know, without public sentiment, nothing can succeed. | ||
But with public sentiments, nothing can fail. | ||
And right now, right now, we just have a bit of a mismatch from the kind of standard life begins at conception position of pro-life, which I personally accept and have fought for my whole adult life. | ||
But that's just not where the public is right now. | ||
And, you know, if you are coming at this from a single issue pro-life perspective, You have to understand something here. | ||
The current manifestation of the Democratic Party, this is not your Clintonian safe, legal, and rare Democratic Party. | ||
This is a party that literally had a Planned Parenthood ban outside the convention giving free, on-demand abortions. | ||
that had an IUD that they were bouncing around the United Center like it was a beach ball at Yankee Stadium. | ||
This is a party that says, shout your abortion, be proud of it. | ||
And they are openly talking about abolishing the filibuster in the Senate to nationally codify Roe vs. Wade, | ||
thereby overturning all of our various states, such as Tiffany and myself, our state of Florida, | ||
who have enacted strong pro-life measures. | ||
So even on this issue where, you know, many from a pro-life perspective, the Trump rhetoric right now is admittedly not pitch perfect, there is a stark, stark contrast here. | ||
And I think it would be foolish in the extreme to pick this kind of fight 69 days as of today, I believe it is, from an election. | ||
This contrast is stark. | ||
Pro-lifers need to vote accordingly and then come January 2025, try to enact the best pro-life policies possible to protect as many unborn human beings as possible. | ||
Well, Josh, this gets back to what Tiffany and I were talking about earlier, which is that you cannot separate politics from policy, and you can't separate politics from the culture, right? | ||
When politics is treated as if it's outside of the culture, that's where you start to have a bad time. | ||
We need to focus, like President Trump did in the platform, on where the American people are. | ||
And where the American people are is on limiting abortion to the early stages of pregnancy and protecting the unborn at the late stages of pregnancy. | ||
He's been very clear about this. | ||
I feel it's it's frustrating because you have so many people that have outside voice outsized voices who get to talk all this that they had to have all these political opinions, but there is no political following. | ||
for their positions. There is not a political following for banning all abortions without | ||
exceptions at this current time. This is not, and that's not how we ended slavery, right? | ||
There were the abolitionists, but the vast majority of Americans did not want to end slavery. They | ||
didn't want to talk about slavery. They did not want to address slavery so much so that when they | ||
finally elected a president, we got a civil war over it, right? And so I want to just use this | ||
point to reiterate, politics cannot be treated as separate from the culture. | ||
We need to focus on where the American people are, which is at limiting abortion to the early stages of pregnancy and protecting the unborn at the later stages of pregnancy. | ||
That's how we're going to make progress for the American people, for the unborn. | ||
And we go from there. | ||
You have to protect, but you can't. | ||
Tiffany, I compare this to a house on fire. | ||
And if there's 10 kids in the home and you can only save three of these kids, You better save all three of those kids. | ||
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Heck yeah. | |
You can't let all ten of them die just because you can't save all of them. | ||
We have to be smart about this because literal heartbeats are on the line. | ||
Yeah, and if you think you're not going to like what Trump's position is on this issue, wait until you see what Harris-Waltz is, how anti-life they are. | ||
Just wait. | ||
You know, I think this goes back to really an opportunity, though. | ||
We talked about the 30% of Democrats who do not like the radical policies. | ||
There are 30% of Democrats, without a doubt in my mind, who want abortion safe, legal, and rare, that are still in that position, right? | ||
That so many Democrats have been for years. | ||
They are not loving the fact that women are celebrating killing their babies. | ||
And I would just like to say, as a mom of four, the fact that we have brainwashed a nation of women to believe that it is freedom To be able to kill your own baby? | ||
Shame on us. | ||
And so Josh is right. | ||
We need to win hearts and minds back. | ||
We need to focus on healthy pregnancies and healthy moms because that means healthy kids. | ||
No, that's right. | ||
Josh, what do you think? | ||
You know, and let's not separate the economic and the dating and marriage market part of this broader conversation as well. | ||
I mean, look, I mean, Terry, you know, again, as you and I have talked offline for years, look, you know, Andrew Breitbart famously said, politics is a giant stream of culture. | ||
I think that's half right. | ||
Politics and culture very much have a two-way arrow whereby they affect one another here. | ||
So we can use the rule of law to nudge the citizenry, I think, in a better direction within the broader bounds of prudence. | ||
Speaking of how public policy, I think, can shape hearts and minds and all that, you know, let's not just talk about banning abortions, as many abortions as I personally would like to see banned. | ||
You know, let's talk about trying to get, you know, more single income households viable again in America, making strong men who can work, you know, good industrial manufacturing jobs and actually bring home. | ||
And that will allow women in turn to be more focused on procreation dating for marriage and then having more kids. | ||
So there are a lot of economic components to this broader conversation as well. | ||
When you look at the polling, Terry, you know, a shockingly high percentage of young women say that there are simply not enough eligible men. | ||
So we have a crisis in this country as well of not raising enough men to be ready, willing and able to actually date for the purposes of marriage and procreation. | ||
So it really ought to be a focus of public policy as well, how to get, frankly, men to mature for the dating market at a younger age. | ||
And part of this gets back to the broader war on masculinity, | ||
the war on manliness. | ||
Matt Walsh talks about this a lot. | ||
He's totally right to do so. | ||
So there's a lot of moving parts of this conversation is what I'm getting at here. | ||
And there are a lot of things that public policy can do beyond simply just banning abortion, | ||
trying to crack down on the abortion pill, Mifepristo and all that. | ||
Again, I support all those policies. | ||
If I were king tomorrow, I would ban all that stuff. | ||
But in the meantime, politics is the art of the possible, not the art of the ideal. | ||
And we have to start trying to use the levers of economic statecraft as well to try to get more single income households, more men who can provide for the families, more women who will then marry those men and then in turn have more children, God willing. | ||
Josh, where can people find you? | ||
This has been fascinating and thrilling as always. | ||
Let everyone know where they can find you. | ||
Yeah, you bet. | ||
So I'm on X, Josh underscore Hammer. | ||
Instagram is Josh B. Hammer. | ||
I host two shows, actually, The Josh Hammer Show and America on Trial with Josh Hammer. | ||
And I'm also senior counsel at the Article 3 Project. | ||
You can check us out at article3project.org. | ||
Thank you so much, Josh. | ||
I want to get back. | ||
I mean, the thing that's killing me is that, you know, ever since Dobbs, Every election, every ballot initiative that we've had, where voters are forced to choose between all abortions or no abortions, they're choosing all abortions. | ||
That is what's been so smart about how President Trump has reframed this debate, who by the way, by the way, overturned Roe. | ||
Right. | ||
He's the most pro-life president we've ever had, bar none, period. | ||
No question about it. | ||
Overturning Roe. | ||
No one else could do it. | ||
He got it done like the next day after being president, essentially. | ||
OK, he got this done. | ||
You have a very tough job to do if you're going to argue that he's not a pro-life president. | ||
That's first and foremost. | ||
But we have to change the conversation and the choice that the American people have between all abortions and no abortions and all abortions and some abortions. | ||
That's how we move the needle. | ||
I think, you know, I look at my daughter. | ||
She's 19. | ||
How do you talk to girls about this issue? | ||
I think, you know, 15 weeks talking about pain, acknowledging that there's a baby that could feel pain and just opening that conversation nationally changes hearts and minds. | ||
And once you start opening that conversation up, then I think you do work back from 15 weeks. | ||
I want to see healthy babies in America, and the idea that women kill their babies is heartbreaking to me. | ||
But when you have grocery prices that are twice as high as they've been before, and moms who maybe were trying to be home, now are working two jobs to make ends meet, you're not, as Josh said, you are not supporting pro-family policies. | ||
So I'm excited to see what President Trump has to offer. | ||
And I'm speaking with him on Friday night, Terry. | ||
I'm doing a fireside chat. | ||
I'm really excited about that. | ||
And that's one of the things I'm going to ask him. | ||
What are pro-child, pro-family policies that you think could be created in America to help us to build that future that we want? | ||
Paulette Harrow. | ||
I think that's her name. | ||
Paulette. | ||
Parla. | ||
Paulette Harlow. | ||
Sorry, I screwed that up. | ||
72-year-old grandma. | ||
72-year-old grandma who's sitting in federal prison right now, Tiffany, for two years. | ||
What was her crime? | ||
Not getting an abortion. | ||
Not bringing people that are underage without their parents knowing about it to get an abortion across state lines. | ||
Her crime was praying at an abortion clinic in Washington, D.C., where they found five dead babies in the dumpster. | ||
We need to be talking about this. | ||
We need to be going on offense. | ||
We need to be getting to work, going where the American people are. | ||
The American people don't want women in jail of abortion. | ||
So let's talk about the 72 year old grandma, the only person that's in jail over abortion, instead of all of the radical proposals that are out there that have no chance of passing. | ||
And let's talk about why women have abortions, because it's oftentimes that they don't think they're going to be able to support the baby or have the health care that they need. | ||
And, you know, for all of the money and effort and time that is spent on killing babies, we'll be a better America when we start putting more focus on making sure that we have healthy babies and thriving kids. | ||
Tiffany, you got a big conference this week. | ||
You got a bigger mark. | ||
Well, actually, I think the conference is bigger than the mark. | ||
I don't know. | ||
We'll see. | ||
They're both big deals. | ||
Tell us more. | ||
How can people find out? | ||
We got a minute 20 left in the show. | ||
Yeah, so if you're in the area locally, I think we still have some tickets left. | ||
You can check out. | ||
We have great breakouts, as I said, on Friday, big day, and then interview with President Trump Friday night. | ||
Saturday morning is the March for Kids, and this is coalition building. | ||
I think the right has really suffered for a long time for not having people coming together and really, you know, not competing for funding, not trying to figure out whose logo is the biggest, but just saying we care about this issue. | ||
March for Kids. | ||
RFK, if you're listening, you are welcome to join us. | ||
We'd love to have you. | ||
We love you. | ||
Come to Moms4Liberty. | ||
Yeah, come to Moms4Liberty. | ||
We wanted you last year. | ||
It didn't work out, but we'd love to have you this year. | ||
And the March for Kids. | ||
There has never been a March for Kids on Washington. | ||
There has been a March for Everything. | ||
Endangered Species. | ||
Other countries. | ||
Never a March for Children. | ||
So if there was a moment in time for RFK to get involved and be a part of this amazing coalition work that APP is part of, thank you for being a part of it. | ||
We appreciate you. | ||
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a big election. | ||
You all know that it's time to stop dooming, stop gloating, and start working. | ||
Thank you all for joining us. | ||
War Room Posse, we love you. | ||
It's been Terry Schilling, President of American Principles, proud of doing my best to fill in for the irreplaceable Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
God bless you all and we'll see you next time. | ||
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