Aug. 27, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| It's Natalie G. Winters hosting today, Monday, August 26, in the Year of Our Lord 2024. | ||
| Quite the explosive news cycle today. | ||
| We're going to be joined by, I would say, a power-packed hour. | ||
| We got Darren Beatty, Mike Benz, and Dr. Robert Malone. | ||
| We're going to start with Darren, then hit Dr. Malone, then go to Mike Benz. | ||
| But, of course, all the stories we'll be covering will run together. | ||
| Like so many stories that we see happening today always do. | ||
| It's almost like the same global elites are behind everything that's happening in this country. | ||
| Oh wait, they are! | ||
| Now, specifically, we're going global. | ||
| We're going to start with what happened in France over the weekend. | ||
| The CEO of Telegram, Pavel Durov, I'm sure you guys have heard of this story by now, arrested allegedly according to reports caused an uproar | ||
| among I'd say people on our side of the aisle but even the New York Times is saying that | ||
| this is sort of a new battle over free speech the age old platform versus publisher debate so | ||
| no better person to bring on to break it down than Darren J. Beattie, Dr. Darren J. Beattie | ||
| I should add. | ||
| Darren, I have a clip that we'll play after of Pavel talking to Tucker from an old segment | ||
| talking about the sort of FBI's efforts to make outreach to Telegram. | ||
| But before we get into that, can you just sort of give us your opening thoughts on what has transpired? | ||
| Well, first of all, Honor is always to be here with you, Natalie. | ||
| And yes, this is a very important development on a very important theme running through, say, the last eight or nine years. | ||
| And that is the sort of cat and mouse game of censorship and censored. | ||
| So what happened in a nutshell? | ||
| Pavel Durov, CEO and founder of Telegram, which is a major encrypted messaging app, who is a citizen of France and actually got his citizenship on the basis of some kind of eminent citizen category. | ||
| So he's being celebrated by France for his achievements in creating this app. | ||
| And then ultimately was arrested. | ||
| They claim if you look at the charges there, oh, distributing child pornography and drug trafficking, all these kinds of crazy things. | ||
| But what it amounts to is charging him for things that happen on his platform. | ||
| And punishing him because presumably he is not as forthcoming and accommodating to state actors that want him to either censor information on his platform or provide information about people to authorities when it is unjustified. | ||
| And so this is a major escalation of this kind of arms race between the censors, the censorious forces of the state, And the people. | ||
| And it's important to take stock of where we were before this escalation because I've always described 2020 as kind of a high watermark for conventional censorship. | ||
| That was when they censored, you know, the Hunter Biden laptop and you had the FBI pressuring Facebook, pressuring Twitter, all the stuff that came out in the Twitter files, basically retrospectively revealing just how integral censorship was to that particular time. | ||
| Then there was a new change. | ||
| There was Elon taking over Twitter and Basically, they still have censorship in a wide variety of ways through all kinds of direct and indirect channels. | ||
| But it's less intense, largely by virtue of Elon's acquisition of X. And doxing attacks have become less effective. | ||
| And we've written about a lot of these dynamics. | ||
| And so the state was kind of at an impasse. | ||
| They needed to make their next move. | ||
| And their next move was, well, if we can't censor in the traditional way, We're going to have to start throwing people in prison. | ||
| And a paradigmatic case of that here in the United States that we've covered extensively, of course, the felony charge against American citizen Douglas Mackey, who was convicted of a felony under a innovative interpretation and construal of an old statute, basically codifying The disinformation scam that they can no longer use as effectively as a pretext for censoring online because Elon took over, they can no longer use that. | ||
| And so they're trying to codify it into the criminal code. | ||
| Of course, this happened before Elon took over, but this is in anticipation. | ||
| This was their escalation there. | ||
| And so basically, they're starting to criminalize the most egregious cases of speech they don't like, because they're no longer able to de-platform people and censor people in a traditional context. | ||
| And I think what Durov represents is an escalation of this on the sort of level of the founder, level of the oligarch. | ||
| And of course, in the backdrop of all of this is Elon Musk, who's also at odds with EU and EU officials precisely because he refuses to censor | ||
| Twitter in compliance with the EU censorship demand. So many, I think, are with justification | ||
| speculating that this arrest of Durov represents the next chess move and a possible precedent | ||
| for how they intend to go after Elon and other figures who might be more favorable to free speech. | ||
| Well, if free speech people are taking over tech platforms and refuse to censor the way we want, | ||
| we're just going to arrest them directly. And so it's a very dangerous and troubling escalation of | ||
| these ongoing censorship wars, not to mention the kind of meta significance of what it says | ||
| about geopolitics. | ||
| You know, Durov is an interesting figure. | ||
| He was, even though he's a Russian national, there's no love lost between him and the Putin regime. | ||
| He refused to censor and give up information that Putin wanted. | ||
| So he was famously kind of exiled and had a middle finger, you know, moment. | ||
| So basically, he tried this experiment of can you be this free agent, this free actor living as a kind of Neutral principled defender of free speech and sort of triangulating between all of these great powers and their intelligence agencies that are trying to get him to compromise his platform to their advantage. | ||
| And he tried that out even where he lived like Dubai. | ||
| The UAE is kind of a merge of this interesting sort of geopolitical Switzerland in a way. | ||
| in a time of intense polarization between sort of the Russia, China sphere and the US sphere. | ||
| And so there's this secondary meta significance to his arrest, which is kind of that this neutrality experiment has not exactly worked out. | ||
| So a lot of interesting things, a lot of very relevant things to us and everybody who cares about, you know, being able to speak freely online and in other venues. | ||
| Yeah, War Room has a huge presence on Telegram, and we're certainly not going anywhere. | ||
| But I find the whole situation, I think, kind of analogous to what the Chinese Communist Party tried to do with Jack Ma, making an example out of him, what he was doing with Alibaba. | ||
| And I think, honestly, we will come in the next few days to see that the United States government was probably intimately involved in a lot of this crackdown on Durov, on, you know, free speech, not just at home. | ||
| But abroad, but I think it sort of brings me to my next question for you, which, before you answer, Denver, if we can roll the clip, but just real quick, you know, I think the question is why, right, are they going after Telegram? | ||
| And it's because they don't play the censorship game that all these other ostensibly private social media companies do. | ||
| But you have Alexander Vindman tweeting over the weekend, and I quote, Musk should be nervous, right, in response to this arrest. | ||
| And I think that that nervousness comes from what you'll see in this clip, this unwillingness, right, to sort of do the bidding of, in this case, the United States government. | ||
| Denver, let's roll this interview with Tucker. | ||
| We get too much attention from the FBI, the security agencies, wherever we came to the US. | ||
| So, to give you an example, last time I was in the U.S., I brought an engineer that is working for Telegram, and there was an attempt to secretly hire my engineer behind my back by cyber security officers or agents, whatever they are called. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| government should hire your engineer? | ||
| That's my understanding. | ||
| That's what he told me. | ||
| To write code for them or to break into Telegram? | ||
| They were curious to learn which open source libraries are integrated to the Telegram's app, you know, on the client side, and they were trying to persuade him to use certain open source tools that he would then integrate into the Telegram's code that, in my understanding, would serve as backdoors. | ||
| Would allow the U.S. | ||
| government to spy on people who use Telegram? | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| government or maybe any other government, because a backdoor is a backdoor regardless of who is using it. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And that's a little surprising to hear, maybe it's not surprising, it's offensive. | ||
| You're confident that happened? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There is no reason for my engineer to make up the stories. | ||
| Also because I personally experienced similar pressure in the U.S. | ||
| Whenever I would go to the U.S., I would have two FBI agents greeting me at the airport, asking questions. | ||
| One time I was having my breakfast at 9 a.m. | ||
| The FBI showed up at my house that I was renting, and that was quite surprising. | ||
| And I thought, you know, we're getting too much attention here. | ||
| It's probably not the best environment to run a... Why would the... Had you committed a crime? | ||
| No! | ||
| They were interested to learn more about Telegram. | ||
| They knew I, you know, left Russia. | ||
| They knew what we were... | ||
| But they wanted details. | ||
| And my understanding is that they wanted to establish a relationship to, in a way, control Telegram better. | ||
| I understand they were doing their job. | ||
| It's just that for us, running a privacy-focused social media platform, that probably wasn't the best environment to be in. | ||
| We want to be focused on what we do, not on government relations of that sort. | ||
| Government relations? | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Darren, your thoughts? | ||
| Well, exactly. | ||
| I mean, this is an example of this refusal to cooperate not only with the United States that wants to get in on his platform and exploit, you know, backdoors and things, but also Russia. | ||
| That's why he wasn't living in Russia at the time. | ||
| So again, it's this interesting kind of experiment to rebuff the on treaties and machinations of all of the major intelligence services | ||
| and, you know, try to live in a place like UAE, which is sort of has this interesting, you know, | ||
| geopolitical neutrality that's emerged, especially since the sanctions regime intensified on Russia. | ||
| and And he thought he was safe in France where he had citizenship and evidently not. | ||
| And so the questions that remain is exactly what was going on? | ||
| What was the trigger behind this? | ||
| I Rather doubt that France was acting alone. | ||
| Were they acting at the behest of some other government? | ||
| And if so, which government and exactly why? | ||
| It's also worth pointing out that Telegram is a major, if not the predominant source of unmediated and unfiltered content directly from conflict zones. | ||
| This applies to the Ukraine conflict, a lot of things that have been embarrassing, including, you know, undeniable footage showing that the Western powers have boots on the ground, to major leaks that they've published that have been embarrassing to parties in the Israel-Gaza conflict. | ||
| And so this idea that Telegram is this source of Unfiltered and unmediated content from very hot button geopolitical hot button conflict zones. | ||
| I'm sure that's also been the source of tremendous pressure and tremendous frustration on the part of numerous intelligence agencies across the globe. | ||
| So it's a tough goal that Durov has set for himself to maintain a genuinely neutral and privacy focused | ||
| platform and it looks like he's paying the price for that noble goal. | ||
| And Darren, we're gonna have to have you back on tomorrow to go through the latest on the pipe bomb hoax. | ||
| But until then, if people want to stay up to date with your analysis, where can they go? | ||
| Revolver, you personally, to get all that. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| At Darren J. Beattie on X and revolver.news. | ||
| We're following this Durup thing closely. | ||
| Again, it's not just about this enigmatic CEO who was arrested. | ||
| There are a lot of extremely interesting and critically important meta elements of this that pertain not only to censorship, but geopolitics as such. | ||
| Follow revolver.news for all the latest on this important story. | ||
| You know, anytime they're wheeling out Vindman to do their bidding, it's not a good sign. | ||
| I think the first impeachment of Donald Trump should serve as a nice reminder. | ||
| We'll be back after the break. | ||
| Darren, thank you for joining us. | ||
| We'll be back after the break with Dr. Robert Malone. | ||
| See you soon. | ||
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Welcome back to The War Room. | |
| There's, of course, a monkeypox pandemic, or something to that effect, raging. | ||
| The World Economic Forum is warning of global shock events that are going to cause chaos. | ||
| We got new COVID vaccines. | ||
| mRNA, of course, being rolled out. | ||
| Anthony Fauci's contracting West Nile virus just last week alone. | ||
| It's a crazy news cycle. | ||
| But before we dive into all of that with Dr. Malone, I think Most importantly and most significantly, just a few days ago, you officially endorsed President Donald J. Trump. | ||
| I would say that endorsement probably compounded by RFK Jr. | ||
| doing more or less the same. | ||
| I'd love if you could sort of walk the audience through your logic, which I'm sure dovetails with all the poly crises, as the World Economic Forum would say that I just walked us through. | ||
| A bit redundant, but we'll use their vernacular. | ||
| But if you could walk us through what, you know, brought you to that decision. | ||
| It's been a difficult road for me politically. | ||
| I've had to kind of thread the needle because I have friends in various camps that are, let's say, centrist, libertarian, and center-right, including some folks that have quite close ties to the Trump administration and the future Trump administration, and have had close ties with Mr. Kennedy, I consider myself a friend and he posted the other day that he considers me a friend. | ||
| And I had been involved earlier in his campaign up until the Boston declaration when I learned some of his policy positions that I just wasn't comfortable with. | ||
| So I've been Kind of, you know, I'm not so important as many people that you have on your show in terms of endorsements. | ||
| And I didn't think that me coming down on one side or the other was particularly significant. | ||
| But as time has passed, it's become more and more clear that the Harris-Walsh Uh, ticket represents a major threat to free speech. | ||
| And now the second amendment increasingly and really the future of America. | ||
| And it, it became more and more clear that there was no other practical option as far as I'm concerned, other than, uh, Mr. Trump. | ||
| And I, as I've watched carefully his positions, And those of many of the people around him, I've become convinced that this represents the closest alignment to my own sense of where the country needs to go, those positions taken by Mr. Trump and his close colleagues, President Trump. | ||
| And so I thought it was time to finally just get off the fence and make a clear, unambiguous statement. | ||
| I'm not seeking any appointment. | ||
| Mr. Trump did not ask for my endorsement. | ||
| But I just thought it was time to come out and make an unequivocal statement. | ||
| And the controversy here is, of course, Operation Warp Speed. | ||
| And Nicole Shanahan, who I also consider a friend, had made a clear statement that in the absence of Mr. Trump acknowledging The OWS, let's say, gently misjudged and the consequences of the vaccine that she felt that herself and Bobby could not endorse. | ||
| Obviously, that never came. | ||
| And Mr. Kennedy went ahead and endorsed President Trump after really a amazing Uh, speech, I think one of the great speeches of this century, um, in very much a, uh, network. | ||
| Uh, I can't, you know, I've had enough. | ||
| I can't take it anymore. | ||
| Kind of a, uh, outburst, uh, that was unscripted in which he really laid out, uh, what the Democrat party has become. | ||
| And for him, I know this was a, uh, a major, uh, leap. | ||
| He had, from the outset, really firmly believed in the Democrat Party of his father and uncle, the pre-Carter mid-century consensus Democrat Party. | ||
| And he had believed that there was still a core of Democrat voters that were aligned with those political sensibilities of his youth and his father and his uncle. | ||
| Clearly that was not the case and furthermore he was never even able to test whether or not that was the case because of the various machinations and legal tricks that were played to keep him from participating in the primary and try to block him even from being a viable third-party candidate. | ||
| So I'm As I said, earnestly, I will do everything in my limited power to support Mr. Trump's presidency for a second term. | ||
| I'm really glad that my friend and colleague, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has taken a similar position. | ||
| I would welcome any opportunity to speak on behalf of President Trump's campaign, if they wish me to. | ||
| And when I was at CPAC Mexico over the weekend, there was some discussion about ways that I might work with Bobby to help advance the interests of the Trump campaign. | ||
| So that's why I came to that position of finally just being clear and unequivocal about my support. | ||
| I think that it's essential that President Trump wins a second term. | ||
| I look forward to that. | ||
| I'm fully committed to it. | ||
| And I don't seek anything in return. | ||
| I just think it's the right thing to do and the right position to take. | ||
| Well, Dr. Malone, I think you are way too humble. | ||
| I think the audience really greatly, deeply respects your take, certainly on all things pandemic, public health, vaccines, but of course, politics, too, because the two have unfortunately become so interlinked, I think, and big thanks to the Democratic Party. | ||
| But that brings me to the topic that I know the audience also certainly wants your assessment on, which is these new round of mRNA COVID vaccines. | ||
| I know I don't like to use the word, but I don't know what else to say, but that they're rolling out. | ||
| and the number of medical products. | ||
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That has a nice flow to it. | |
| We'll go with that. | ||
| But can you walk us through the latest on that front? | ||
| So Pfizer in the lead and Moderna following up closely behind have followed through | ||
| with the promise of the technology in that they could rapidly re-engineer the RNA sequence | ||
| to code for different proteins. | ||
| And in this case, the issue is the ongoing mutational drift or directed evolution, depending on how you look at it. | ||
| As a. | ||
| Navarro and I once put out in an essay in the Washington Times, the use of a leaky vaccine will actually drive the evolution of the virus, and that seems to be what's going on. | ||
| But with the evolution of the virus into a form that seems to be more and more resistant to any effects of the injectable mRNA product, In terms of prevention of infection, the FDA has authorized, in the absence of any data, based on, as Peter Marks put it, hope, that a modified sequence that's more aligned with the spike protein of the currently circulating variant that is infecting many. | ||
| There seems to be a surge in infection, but not a surge in hospitalization. | ||
| But there is this surge in infection, and so they hope that by making the vaccine product more aligned with the current sequence, then they will be able to provide what I've heard speculated about is it may provide a few weeks of additional protection Uh, if you take this product on top of the prior doses that you received, I think that the, uh, this brings us up to 10 or 11 jabs that are recommended by the FDA. | ||
| And of course, they're recommended for the full spectrum of ages, particularly for the elderly and the very young. | ||
| Disregarding the data that's come out about myocarditis and the 10% plus case fatality rate of clinical myocarditis that's now being reported in peer-reviewed literature, which far exceeds any potential benefits in terms of prevention of hospitalization or death from the vaccines. | ||
| So it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out in terms of vaccine uptake. | ||
| Borla at Pfizer is crowing about how great his team has been to get this product out. | ||
| But again, what we have here, the FDA has long spoken about the potential that they would use the regulatory pathway for influenza, which is to say an annual update of the influenza vaccine without any Rigorous peer-reviewed or randomized clinical trials to support those updates. | ||
| They have long wanted to do this for COVID and they seem to be doing it much more often than just once yearly and are requiring less data than they historically have had for the Vaccine influenza updates, which usually have an annual assessment of how effective they are in generating neutralizing antibodies. | ||
| They're not even bothering with that. | ||
| They're just jamming the new sequence in, making a bunch of it, and then authorizing distribution, and explicitly based on hope. | ||
| We're back to that whole theme of substituting hope for data and science and medicine, but that's where we're at. | ||
| I think I once heard that as a campaign slogan somewhere, and I'm not quite sure if that materialized. | ||
| Materialized either, Dr. Malone, if you can hang with us through the break. | ||
| Maybe we're going to have vaccines based on joy next. | ||
| True, or a new way forward, right? | ||
| Maybe that too. | ||
| I don't think the euphemisms quite work when it comes to public health, but you know what does work? | ||
| You can go to sacredhumanhealth.com if you want to support this show, the grass-fed beef liver, the magnesium, they're certainly Steve's favorite. | ||
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| I hope you guys are all on the War Room Telegram channel. | ||
| You know, it's so good they had to arrest the CEO. | ||
| We'll be back after this short break with Dr. Robert Malone and Mike Benz after him. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. Welcome back to The War of Millions. | |
| You gotta make sure you're going to birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| We're giving Philip Patrick a call to get the latest installment of The End of the Dollar Empire. | ||
| Just like they're lying to us about the COVID jabs. | ||
| They forget they're freezing the terminology that Dr. Malone wanted me to use. | ||
| They're, of course, lying about all things economy, too. | ||
| It's why you gotta go to birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| We're still joined by Dr. Malone. | ||
| He's gotta bounce, we gotta jump too, but Dr. Mullen, I just wanted to give you time to do justice to your new wonderful project, All Things PsyOps. | ||
| I know that's probably already enticing the audience, but just walk the audience through the book, what you're working on, and how they can either get it or stay up to date with everything you're working on. | ||
| Well, thanks a lot, Natalie. | ||
| With all the news right now, if you want to get our book, Psi War Enforcing the New World Order, you might want to think about booking it from Amazon now. | ||
| It's going to be out on the 8th of October, but who knows how soon it's going to be censored. | ||
| So we'll see about that. | ||
| It's quite a volume. | ||
| I'm getting a lot of positive feedback in reviews and from readers that they think that this might be one of the more important works detailing the technologies that have been deployed against us, the manipulation of the media and the various techniques and strategies that are being used. | ||
| So the goal with the book is to help you, the audience, To better understand what's being used against you so that you'll be more resistant to it and you can see through it just like you learn every single day here on the war room. | ||
| Dr. Malone, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| We'll have you back on soon. | ||
| My pleasure. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Speaking of Psy-Ops, you know what else I think is a Psy-Op? | ||
| Or maybe in this case, a Psy-War, at least a Psy-Censorship War. | ||
| That's the Democratic Party now. | ||
| I'm old enough to remember, what was it, just last week I watched the DNC. | ||
| How many speeches did we see with the American flags, the faux-patriotism, the same flags that, oh wait, the protesters who were funded by the same people that they were burning outside, or the flags that people were kneeling on and desecrating just years prior? | ||
| Well, I think that whole patriotism display hasn't aged quite well today, of course, being the three-year anniversary of 13 American service members being killed because of the Biden regime's direct actions, or rather, lack thereof, what happened in Afghanistan. | ||
| You know the only president who showed up today to commemorate those fallen heroes? | ||
| President Donald J. Trump. | ||
| Biden's too busy on vacation. | ||
| Harris is too busy taking credit for not taking credit. | ||
| But where's your patriotism for those 13 Americans who gave their life? | ||
| Didn't have to, but they did because of your horrific policies. | ||
| And you know what I think the buried lead in the most interesting part of the events that transpired today, or didn't transpire, at least on behalf of Democratic leadership? | ||
| For so long, we sat and assessed, and believe me, by no credit to House Republican investigators, they've done absolutely nothing to get to the bottom of this, but wondering, as we always do with the Biden regime, was this a result of incompetence, or was it intentional? | ||
| And was that intentionality derived from foreign influence and interference? | ||
| Like, oh, I don't know, the Iranian spy chief that was headed up and hoisted at the Pentagon. | ||
| Or I don't know, the fact that Hunter Biden is too busy cutting business deals with every foreign country that's hostile to the United States. | ||
| But today, the lack of presence from Kamala Harris, from Joe Biden, and just one weak statement on the White House press release, when we've seen more forceful statements come out about freaking transgender day of remembrance. | ||
| The very same Kamala Harris who sits there and says, I was the last person in the room when we were deciding things, how they'd go down with Afghanistan. | ||
| I co-sign on everything I did. | ||
| Then where were you today? | ||
| Where were any of the former presidents? | ||
| Oh wait, they don't want to embrace their legacy of botched foreign wars and blood on their hands of true American patriots. | ||
| And those American patriots certainly didn't die to defend It is the even more logical extension of the radical policies that this regime is pushing, whether it's the censorship that we've talked about earlier in this show, the lawfare, that are wholly anti-American values. | ||
| So I'm so glad you guys are now the party of the American flag when your shock troops outside aren't busy burning it. | ||
| I'm so glad you guys like the American flag now. | ||
| It's no longer a hate crime or a hate symbol to wear it. | ||
| But your patriotism is a psyop, and the scariest part about that, not just that you guys deal in projection and the fact that you think that because we're patriots, it's something that we're guilty of, so you're trying to co-opt the issue, it's a mask for what your truly radical policies are, that like I always say, you're using socialist marketing tactics, the most explicit in your face is price gouging, but to cover up the fact that you guys want to see death You don't have to go over to Iran to see it, not just because you guys are importing Iranian spies into our Pentagon, but because you guys believe that too. | ||
| And the fact that you guys did not show up, the only thing you could do is put out a poorly weak-worded statement on the whitehouse.gov website that means nothing. | ||
| People whose families you haven't even had the nerve to meet with. | ||
| Probably the first time that their names ever come across your desk, Joe Biden, if you're even awake to read it. | ||
| Oh, but you guys are the patriots. | ||
| Okay, and we're anti-American because we dare to say that this country is in managed decline. | ||
| Hey, look no further than what happened in Afghanistan if you want to see the intentional and managed decline of this country. | ||
| And the psyop that is, they'll tell you that they're the real patriots, and that's why you should vote for Kamala Harris. | ||
| Absolutely disgusting. | ||
| It's the party of stolen valor. | ||
| But they don't even care about that, because they don't care about this country, they don't care about our servicemen and women, and that is on full display, not just every day, but especially today. | ||
| It's a disgrace. | ||
| And Tej Gill knows, I think, firsthand a little something about that. | ||
| Of course, we love Warpath Coffee. | ||
| Tej, your thoughts on what transpired today and for the posse, too, the deals, the promo codes, how they can get access to Warpath. | ||
| How's it going, Natalie? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's a total disgrace that Trump was the only American president at the service for these 13 fallen heroes at Arlington Cemetery today. | ||
| He's the 45th president. | ||
| He's the only president that was there. | ||
| Biden and Kamala were nowhere to be seen. | ||
| And then let's not forget about when they were unloading the bodies of those 13 service members. | ||
| And Joe Biden was looking at his watch like he was in a big hurry when they're unloading the bodies off the aircraft. | ||
| I think everybody remembers that there's there's $85 billion in weapons, vehicles, armored vehicles, helicopters and even aircraft were left behind the Taliban. | ||
| The Taliban now has one of the largest standing armies in the world and then one of the largest arms dealers in the world. | ||
| There's 13 service members were killed, 11 Marines, one sailor, and one army soldier. | ||
| Let's go over some of these numbers. | ||
| There's 23,000 Humvees were left there, 8,000 trucks, almost 400,000 rifles, over 30 Blackhawk | ||
| helicopters, 23 Super Tucano aircraft. | ||
| Those are amazing aircraft. | ||
| The amount of ordnance and vehicles and aircraft that we left behind was, it's absolutely, it's criminal. | ||
| Someone needs to be held accountable. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Nobody's ever held accountable for any of these crimes. | ||
| I heard you earlier asking if this was intentional. | ||
| This is absolutely intentional. | ||
| There's no way that they could have planned a safe exit out of Afghanistan in that short period of time. | ||
| This is absolutely intentional. | ||
| They did this to make America look weak. | ||
| And that's what they've done. | ||
| We look weak on the world stage. | ||
| That's why there's war after war after war after war going on right now. | ||
| This is all intentional to make us look weak and they do not and they did not care about the service members over there that were killed. | ||
| Those are just a speed bump in the road for them. | ||
| No, you're so right. | ||
| For the coffee. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm getting more emotional, too. | ||
| It's insulting. | ||
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| Tej Gill, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| We'll have you back on soon. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Joined by Mike Benz. | ||
| Now, Mike, you're Mr. Censorship, but in a good way, the expert on it. | ||
| You reverse engineer it. | ||
| So I wanted to have you on to talk all things Telegram and the broader implications. | ||
| So just sort of top line your assessment of what happened with the arrest of the CEO, why you think we're seeing this now, how this kind of interplays with what's going on here domestically. | ||
| Well, it's an obvious political prosecution, but what I find most fascinating is it is a geopolitical prosecution. | ||
| What I mean by that is there's all this international diplomacy around Telegram. | ||
| Telegram, I've been covering for many, many years now, is an instrument of United States statecraft. | ||
| It is mission-critical to State Department, to CIA, to USAID-backed, and to Pentagon-backed Operations all over the world. | ||
| Just a few examples. | ||
| It was Telegram that served as the primary communications vehicle for the U.S. | ||
| State Department and the CIA when they were carrying out the attempted color revolution in Belarus in the summer of 2020, funding all of the operators of the Telegram channels because Telegram, an end-to-end encrypted chat technology, which was The R&D for end-to-end encrypted chat was primarily done by the Pentagon in the 1990s because encrypted chat is a way to evade state surveillance over the communications of dissident groups. | ||
| So when the CIA or the State Department or the Pentagon backs a dissident group in a foreign country to overthrow that government, we don't want the government reading the messages and so we use telegram. | ||
| And it's the same thing in Russia. | ||
| And what I mean by that is, folks may not know this, but six years ago in 2018, 26 different US NGOs all condemned Russia and threatened Russia when Russia at the time was contemplating blocking Telegram. | ||
| So why did the United States want Telegram created by a Russian expat who moved to Dubai, Pavel, who's just a Arrested in France. | ||
| Why did the United States call it a human rights violation? | ||
| To to stop free speech in Russia. | ||
| Why did they why were they pro-telegram in Russia? | ||
| Well, it was because they were backing right-wing dissident groups and leaders like Alexei Navalny and grooming him at the Yale Jackson School the Maurice Greenberg World Fellows program to do street riots mobilized peaceful protests is in his bio at the Yale program and they were using a They were using Telegram to evade Russian surveillance over CIA-backed dissidents in Russia. | ||
| We do this everywhere. | ||
| The problem is, is we also force foreign governments to censor Telegram when the wrong political party is using it. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| State Department orchestrated this worldwide censorship campaign against right-wing populism after the 2016 election, and strong-armed and capacity-built bribed thousands of people in Brazil To create this censorship ecosystem which manifested in laws in Brazil banning the use of Telegram under a $20,000 fine if anyone attempted to use a VPN to still access it until Telegram put disinformation filters in place or until they essentially gave, you know, complied with Brazil law enforcement. | ||
| Now, there's only two games in town. | ||
| There's Brazil and WhatsApp. | ||
| In terms of ubiquitously use end-to-end encrypted chats, but WhatsApp is owned by Facebook. | ||
| So it's a large surface area. | ||
| The US intelligence community descended on Facebook and WhatsApp gave them everything they wanted, including these misinformation filters, AI scan and ban technology, banning all of the groups that the State Department asked them to ban, and even placing limits on the number of times you can share WhatsApp content. | ||
| just to prevent right-wing populist groups from using that as a primary communications | ||
| vehicle. | ||
| Telegram did not comply with that. | ||
| And part of that is because Telegram is not, it doesn't have a wide surface area like WhatsApp | ||
| does. | ||
| It's run in a cloistered fashion by a guy living in a non-extradition country. | ||
| And so he was on a pirate ship, unable to be sufficiently pressured by US and European | ||
| intelligence. | ||
| And we know that Pavel was pressured by U.S. | ||
| intelligence every time he stepped foot in America. | ||
| He said on Tucker that every time he comes to America he's greeted by the FBI and they try to persuade him to give him access to give U.S. | ||
| intelligence access to the back end, even attempted to hire Telegram's own chief engineer out from under him to secretly work for U.S. | ||
| intelligence to backdoor Telegram. | ||
| It's a nest of vipers. | ||
| And Mike, we've got to jump to break, but I want to hold you because I want you to finish that point. | ||
| But Warren Posse, in the meantime, it's Birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| I know you guys always get mad when I cut Mike off, but hopefully Birchgold is a good enough reason to. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| Welcome back to The War Room. | ||
| We're still joined by Mike Benz. | ||
| Now, Mike, I want you to conclude what you were saying on all things Telegram, but if you can, we've got a few minutes. | ||
| Also sort of link it to, of course, the historic hearing we saw today at Heritage talking about the assassination attempt, but how we've sort of seen these big tech companies already sort of get in lockstep and help push out one narrative that it's up to these sort of alternative investigators and people like yourself to push back against Telegram, I think being a perfect example of holding the line and, you know, Well, if you recall in the J13 assassination attempt on Donald Trump and the murder of Corey Compertore, we found out the FBI said, darn, we can't get any of his messages because he used an encrypted messaging app. | ||
| So we see once again, the utility of End-to-end encrypted chat is something that if there were, for example, an intelligence back channel to the murder in the sense that a U.S. | ||
| intelligence agency or equity, such as the FBI or DHS or Pentagon counterintelligence, or you name it, if there was some communication that was established with the shooter, if, for example, as the New York Post reported, The shooter, Crooks, was using the same gun range that was used by DHS agents. | ||
| DHS is a branch called HSI, Homeland Security Investigations, whose job it is to infiltrate and recruit and groom informants or bad actors, essentially, and set them up for crimes. | ||
| So it's quite possible that HSI agents at that range may have befriended Crooks, and then in order to evade any kind of scrutiny later in time about the communications they were having with the would-be shooter, simply told them to use an encrypted messaging app. | ||
| So I'm not alleging that to be the case, but this would be an easy way for it to be structured in order to evade federal fingerprints on the assassination attempt. | ||
| But again, getting back to the sort of arrest of Pavel and its implications. | ||
| I have been pointing to the necessity of the House Foreign Affairs Committee to bring in for questioning and subpoena the documents from the U.S. | ||
| Embassy in Paris because it is my contention that there is no way hell would sooner freeze over before France would unilaterally arrest the founder and the guy who unilaterally runs Telegram without at least notifying, let alone coordinating, getting permission from the U.S. | ||
| Embassy in Paris to do so. | ||
| Because telegram is absolutely essential to United States statecraft and has major implications for the war, which means it's a major Pentagon interest. | ||
| Because telegram is also a huge font for Russian propaganda. | ||
| All of the Russian military channels use telegram channels. | ||
| All of the major civilian networks in Russia use telegram. | ||
| Because telegram is an open playing field for intelligence. | ||
| Because it belongs to neither Russia nor the US. | ||
| The US has been trying to co-opt it in order to rig the playing field and win the information war, win the propaganda war, and to be able to spy on All Russian troop movements, all Russian communications, which are currently inaccessible because of the end-to-end encrypted technology, and the ability to simply use a burner phone so that a new account using encrypted chat can't be easily surveyed by the NSA because it would be a new device not identified with a person. | ||
| So you could have 15,000 people in a Russian squadron, effectively, all using the same telegram channel on burner phones to be able to coordinate movements. | ||
| What many of these military groups have done, which is why all the foreign policy blob folks with Ukraine emojis in their bios have been celebrating like it's Christmas Eve because of the arrest of Pavel and military officials from Russia have been telling everyone to delete all of their telegram messages, delete all their history, because now the CIA may have it all. | ||
| Mike, if people want to follow you, we'll have you back on. | ||
| Like I always say, you got into the wrong business, because if you're in the business of covering censorship, you're going to be on this show every day. | ||
| But I'm sure the audience loves it, as do I. If people, in the meantime, want to follow you, get the Twitter spaces, everything you're doing, the Foundation for Freedom Online, where can they go for all that? | ||
| Thank you, Natalie. | ||
| It's at MikeBensCyber on X, and I do lectures and office hours every Sunday, and I probably post on there a hundred times a day, so get everything from me there. | ||
| Mike, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| We'll have you back on soon. | ||
| Thanks, Nat. | ||
| Now, another Mike, Mike Lindell, you guys are probably equally familiar with, joins us now. | ||
| Mike, I hope Harry Sisson isn't going to crash this interview, or maybe he will, but give us the latest deals that you have for the posse, or if you've gotten an answer from Harry, I'm still waiting. | ||
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| We've got a bounce. | ||
| We're coming up against the end of the show You know the posse loves you. | ||
| I'm sure they'll pile in you guys know it's MSNBC They always like to say MAGA. | ||
| You can't only love your country when you win Well, let's look at the actions of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden today at that memorial ceremony. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| Why don't you actually love our country in the first place? | ||
| What a novel concept for the newly patriotic Democratic Party. | ||
| I'll hold my breath. | ||
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