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have told Donald Trump that the president's job under Article 2 of the
Constitution...
Someone should have told Donald Trump.
Donald Trump would be able to weaponize the Department of Justice to go after his political opponents.
He could even turn the FBI into his own personal police force.
That is not how it works in America!
That's how it works in dictatorships!
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
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Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people.
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The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
mike benz
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
mike benz
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
Welcome to the War Room.
natalie winters
It's Natalie G. Winters hosting today, Tuesday, August 20th in the year of our Lord 2024.
Honored to be coming at you live from Palm Beach, Florida.
Like I said, I'll be in DC later this week.
We're trying to track down Julie Kelly.
The studio is going to let me know when we have her up.
Until then, you guys saw that cold open question at its finest, if I've ever seen it, which I guess is fitting if you're hosting the DNC in the city of Chicago.
After all, it's Saul Alinsky who came up with, accuse your enemy of what you're guilty of.
And I think Jamie Raskin, for all the years that he's spent bloviating about lawfare and how much of a threat to that very coveted word, democracy, President Donald Trump is, When the teleprompter went out, you didn't really have much to say, because I think everything you say is scripted.
I know, but you guys here in the War Room, we're not scripted, because what we're telling you is the truth.
We don't need consultants and pundits and all the executives at the mainstream media telling us what we need our talkers to be.
But there is a breaking news story that I'd wanted to get into until we get Julie Kelly up, which we'll discuss later in the show with Mike Benz.
But it has to do with a group that you guys know I've done a lot of investigative reporting into, that is EcoHealth Alliance, the New York-based non-profit that received taxpayer dollars, your taxpayer dollars, a la Anthony Fauci, to fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
Now, you may remember The grand display that you saw bipartisan lawmakers have because they disbarred them from receiving federal funding, but there's breaking news just coming out yesterday that EcoHealth Alliance is still receiving your taxpayer dollars to fund research on pandemic-causing pathogens.
Again, a perfect example, not just of the regime protecting its own, but the real buried lead in, I think, smoking gun with this entire story, is that one of the grants, that is a $3 million grant that they're still funding, is housed at, you guessed it, Georgetown University, the same place where Anthony Fauci
went running to after we kicked him out of NIAID. No conspiracies, no coincidences. Someone else who I'm
sure knows very well no conspiracies, no coincidences is Julie Kelly who I believe joins us now.
Julie, I believe, yes, you're up.
Okay, I know you had some breaking news on your Twitter today walking us through how the findings coming out of the Secret Service kind of covering up their missing text messages, how it's not looking good.
Can you walk us through the latest on that front?
julie kelly
Sure, Natalie.
Thanks for having me on.
So, there are records that appear to confirm what I reported on a few weeks ago.
I think you and I talked about this.
is that not only did the Secret Service and top DHS officials, of course, the Secret Service is under the purview of the Department of Homeland Security.
Not only did they delete those text messages, the Secret Service text messages belonging to at least 24 Secret Service officials, including the director at the time, including Kimberly Cheeto, who was on the Protective Services Bureau on January 6, They wiped all of those phones, Natalie.
They tried to keep that from the DHS Inspector General Joseph Khafari, who was investigating, wanting those texts, and they had to fess up and say those texts were gone.
But also, they demonstrate that DHS and Secret Service tried to prevent Joseph Khafari, who was investigating the Secret Service's role in January 6, tried to prevent him from accessing all of their Email and other correspondence related to January 6.
And then of course, Natalie, as I think you and I also talked about, and I
hinted at this a few weeks ago, but other records confirm that, uh, secretary
my Orcas wanted the get this, the entire report, that station, the findings
that Joseph Safari came up with one of the entire report redacted for
it was released to the public.
We would have gotten a, you know, I think it was a hundred and some odd page report.
It's only the title available.
Everything else was going to be redacted.
Furthermore, DHS on partial redaction to the report that went to Congress.
Now, of course, you know, HHS officials should not have any involvement in
independent inquiry into their own department's handling of anything.
Here, they really tried to prevent Safari from getting the records.
The text messages are gone.
Then reject entire report.
And I think once that that news started to go public, Natalie and DHS pulled back, allowed the report to be released to the public with some redactions.
But we're also going to keep fighting those redactions because we're entitled to know everything inspector general found.
About this now, unfortunately, distrustful, dirty, corrupt agency Seek the Service and what he found out about what they did on January 6th.
natalie winters
I mean, the redactions are so in your face, but I think there's sort of a broader, almost systemic cover-up going on.
In other words, every time you come on this program, it's not like you're here to report the talking points that are diligently being provided to you by DHS or FBI.
We're kind of getting lucky by being able to piece A lot of this together.
How does that sort of square, I think, with this narrative that, you know, MAGA and all these right-wing extremists are being progressively radicalized and becoming conspiracy theorists, but they're not giving us insight, right, into any of these investigations?
How do they sort of reconcile those competing narratives?
julie kelly
Well, because by the time we get our facts out and we've been called conspiracy theorists for years, which, of course, those of us who have called January 6th an inside job, Those of us who questioned were very suspicious about all of a sudden these missing text messages from January 5th and 6th that were deleted on Joe Biden's watch.
Did not happen when Donald Trump was still in office.
This purge of these texts happened early to begin late January and ran for several weeks as all of these phones were wiped.
Well, the investigation went to look at not only Donald Trump's speech at the Ellipse and the Secret Service presence in all their Capitol protests as well.
And then the big scandal, the so-called pipe bomb, found outside the DNC on January 6, where Kamala Harris so inexplicably went to the Capitol that morning and went to the DNC and stayed there until she was evacuated after about one o'clock.
What are they hiding, Natalie?
And then later today, Representative Barry Loudermilk, who is head of the subcommittee looking into January 6th and the January 6th Select Committee, and Senator Charles Grassley wrote a letter to Mayorkas finding a full accountant, DHS, Secret Services, stonewalling of the Kafari investigation and expressing concern, rightfully so.
He also will thwart And the internal investigation into the attempted assassination of Donald Trump on July 13th.
So this is a developing unraveling scandal, not just the pipe bomb, uh, the service tax, but now you have it.
Senator Grassley, I think very deep concerns.
And I think on behalf of all of us at DHS and secret service will not cooperate in any investigation.
What happened on July 13th?
natalie winters
You also had some interesting kind of buried leads in the impeachment report that House Republicans put out not too long ago, how it all sort of links to just interagency cover up Hunter Biden's, you know, ties to this intricate and intricate web.
Can you walk the audience through that, too?
julie kelly
So it also did confirm, Natalie, that D.C.
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U.S.
julie kelly
Attorney Matthew Graves, who was appointed by Joe Biden, He was the one who refused to cooperate with special counsel, David Weiss, when he brought recommendations to charge Hunter Biden for tax crimes committed in Washington in 2014 and 2015.
That was further confirmation of Matthew Graves.
Now I'll have a big piece on Matthew Graves, Natalie, because here's a terrifying thought.
If Molly Harris wins, there is a very good chance that Matthew Graves, who has been rounding up J sixers since he got into that office on November 2021.
Natalie, his first act after he was confirmed by the Senate, is to charge Shannon for contempt of Congress.
That's the very first thing that Matthew Graves did in office.
Since then, he's rounded up.
Now, the caseload is 1500 J6ers.
Of course, he brought criminal charges against Peter Navarro.
His wife is a very influential nonprofit, radical nonprofit in Washington.
She is extremely close With Kamala Harris, and also Matthew Graves and Doug Emhoff worked in law firm for Doug Emhoff had to leave after Kamala Harris won the, not won, took the vice presidency.
Sorry.
So there's a very good chance that this out of control prosecutor who protected the Biden, but continues to try to punish Trump supporters, voters, and his closest associates could very well take over the DOJ.
In the horrifying prospect of Kamala Harris winning the election in November.
natalie winters
Julie, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything that you're working on.
Your Twitter feed is always on fire.
Where can they go to do that?
julie kelly
Thanks, Natalie.
My Twitter is Julie underscore Kelly, too, where I do post a lot of breaking news, court documents, etc.
My work can be found at my sub staff, Declassified, with Julie Kelly.
And also I write for Real Queer Investigation.
I have several pieces up about the DNC pipe bomb and also Matthew Graves as well.
natalie winters
Julie, thank you so much for joining us.
As always, we'll have you back on soon.
julie kelly
For sure.
Thanks, Natalie.
natalie winters
Of course.
Warren Post, you guys know, we came out, I would say, on fire against the House impeachment report that they dropped yesterday.
Oh, I don't know, about two, three, four years late with evidence that, frankly, they didn't even gather.
They copy and pasted from independent media outlets.
We've been telling you here in the war room for years, we were of course, I think, crowned the top spreader of misinformation by the New York Times for saying so, but they're sort of running cover, running a barrage of op-eds in various conservative news outlets today, saying that if we let Joe Biden get away with these crimes, that we're setting a bad precedent on the global stage, that we're allowing global corruption to continue to proliferate.
Now, of course, I immediately thought of Ukraine, but I agree with that framing.
I agree with that take, but I think the issue there, the variable that we need to focus on is House Republicans, right?
They're the ones who are fundamentally unserious.
They're the ones who are not taking this impeachment inquiry seriously.
You've seen it with the witnesses they've called, or frankly, not called.
You saw it with the whistleblower we had on this show last week talking about how this is pervasive among all the so-called investigative committees that they have going on.
Uh, up on Capitol Hill, which frankly have produced absolutely nothing in terms of actual results.
I know we're used to Fox News setting the goalposts for what accountability looks like and accountability may look like a strongly worded letter or a harshly worded tweet or a nice viral media clip.
We're not living in the Fox News controlled opposition media days anymore.
You have the war room, you have actual MAGA grassroots patriots who worked hard, They gave you their money to send you to Congress to actually do something, to not betray Gowdy Light.
I mean, the Benghazi committee makes what these people are looking, people are doing look like child's play.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
And these House Republicans that have the nerve, like Speaker Johnson tweeting over the weekend, oh, another illegal alien was allowed to enter this country who had, you know, 20 plus convictions of murder and gang rape, whatever.
Yeah, do something about it.
They want to blame it on Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
I'm all for the talking points, but you guys have responsibility too.
We didn't elect you to just tweet angrily about people that we frankly didn't even elect, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
We certainly didn't elect you to put out strongly worded letters when patriots are being rounded up, sent to prison, Steve Bannon included.
And you guys just want to send out a letter that's 292 pages three years too late?
I don't think that cuts it and we're not going to give up on that fight because there are serious crimes that have been committed and we've seen them have policy-based ramifications to this day.
Look no further than Ukraine and look at the southern border.
We're going to drill down on everything immigration and the DNC after this short break.
unidentified
I have my choice.
In my perfect world, every Republican is out of the country, and all the immigrants come in.
That's what I want.
It's never gonna happen.
That's what I want.
But we're all immigrants.
We all came from somewhere else.
Right!
I think so.
Common law committed to strengthening legal immigration.
natalie winters
Maybe a Freudian slip or maybe just saying the quiet part out loud.
I think Biden has overseen probably the largest mass invasion, not wave of immigration or whatever euphemistic spin they want to put on it in this country's history.
And make no mistake, the worst part of it isn't even what's happening now.
It's what's going to happen after, no matter who wins the presidency, because they're going to push, as you know, I think probably the favorite word in all of Washington, D.C.
is amnesty, amnesty, amnesty.
bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform. If you ever hear that, you should be really spooked.
Someone who has heard that word probably way too often, he was of course a senior advisor to
President Trump on all things domestic policy, holding the line on everything trade, immigration,
all the fights that matter in a post-Trump America, I would say is Theo Wold, also now
at the Claremont Institute.
Theo, we're walking through some of the radical, truly radical, for all the times I've ever said that, I think it's been an understatement, immigration policy proposals coming out of the DNC, codified in their platform just yesterday.
Can you walk the audience through this U.S.
Citizenship Act and just how truly scary and threatening it is?
unidentified
Yeah, certainly.
Thanks for having me on, Natalie.
I think, I mean, really, to start, it's impossible to understate how radical the Democrats' policy platform announced in this 92-page document really is.
And the best place to understand the radicalism is to look at the immigration policy parts of the platform.
As you said, they're embracing wholeheartedly the Citizenship Act That was a bill proposed by House Democrats unanimously.
And it does, among other things, among other things.
I'm just going to give you the top slices here.
15.5 million illegal aliens who entered unlawfully under President Biden will be gaining citizenship.
OK, number one.
Number two, they'll be given free housing, free health care.
Free legal representation to unlawfully entered illegal aliens.
And then they do these other things, like this really strange Orwellian phrase they use.
They got any mention of illegal aliens or unlawful entry from the Immigration and Naturalization Act.
And instead they use this term, a prospective lawful e-immigrant.
A legally present, prospective immigrant is repeated throughout the bill.
Essentially what they're trying to do is eliminate any distinction between citizens and foreign
nationals.
And they do that in a variety of ways, including expediting the ability of illegal aliens to
receive green cards, and also wiping away criminal misconduct.
So as you know, under current law, if you have a felony or a series of misdemeanors,
you're ineligible to change your status if you're here illegally.
Or even if you were to marry an American citizen, you cannot move into a different status category.
This bill would change all of that.
So even if you're a violent offender, you will be eligible for U.S.
citizenship.
And then here's the kicker, the part that I think a lot of Americans We'll just absolutely find totally shocking is they will pay for using US taxpayer dollars to go and collect illegal aliens who were removed from the country and sent to their home countries of origin and bring them back to the United States so that those illegal aliens can also be made citizens.
This bill is is not just an amnesty.
This isn't the 1986 Reagan amnesty.
This is a fundamental radical remaking of the United States.
natalie winters
No, it's so in your face.
I mean, it's effectively dissolving the sovereignty of this country.
And just from your perspective, again, like I said, as someone who has been in these rooms hearing the negotiations, how it goes down about immigration policy, you know, from your kind of vantage point, is this Democrats pandering to sort of the, you know, new wave of illegal immigrant vote or the, you know, want to feel good liberals within their party?
Or is this something darker that sort of represents just an unrecognizable shift that the Democratic Party Yeah, I think it's the latter actually.
unidentified
I mean, I've, I've seen these negotiations and I think the, you know, where the, the former point is, is just, you know, the typical bargaining positioning of the Democrat party vis-a-vis weak Republicans who, you know, for all intents and purposes want to give on amnesty, but their base won't allow them.
I think some of that's at play, but really what this is about, go and read the 92 page policy document that Democrats unveiled.
It really is like a witch's brew, right, of Marxist economic theory, of feminist and queer
theory targeting families and children, and then of this open borders policy that really
wants to wipe away any distinction between a taxpaying American citizen entitled to the
full protection and the privileges of the law and foreign nationals who may come from
any corner of the globe, but suddenly the Democrats want to make eligible for every
benefit, every privilege, every right under the Constitution.
It is a fundamentally radical view.
And here's the thing.
We talk about this all the time.
Year after year we'll say, oh, well, the, you know, the Democrats want to fundamentally radically remake America.
They put it in writing how they plan to do it.
And the question is, do Republicans have the will, the political will to stop this?
natalie winters
This amnesty fight is something that I think always comes up and it seems like Republicans always fail to lack a spine or a backbone or anything resembling that on those issues.
You know, even say President Trump wins, right?
We still have a massive, massive crisis ahead of us, not just in terms of wrangling rhinos, but just logistically dealing with, you know, 10 plus million people Who are here and the Democrats are already admitting that they want to give them citizenship.
You were on the show just last week talking about how they're giving them, you know, full citizenship rights, including, you know, most importantly, the right to vote just in time for the election.
But just sort of walk the audience through the feasibility of mass deportations.
And is that really the only solution for this or is there any other way?
unidentified
No, I mean, I think so.
The feasibility question I think is probably the wrong place to start the discussion right now.
The real place to start is to say, what do we mean when we say mass deportations?
Does that just mean like a handful of convicted rapists or child sex offenders?
Or does it mean a couple of cartel agents or drug dealers?
Or does it mean mass?
Do we mean the 15 million people who the Biden administration and their co-belligerents in the far left encouraged to come across?
Through the Darien Gap who provided resources, food, water, maps, GPS services to get them into the country.
Do we really mean it when we say mass deportations to remove all of those individuals, anyone who is here unlawfully.
And I think that's the real debate even happening right now in closed door sessions among Republican lawmakers is can we just buy off a few more, uh, you know, Republican voters by using this term mass.
And what we really mean is just a few thousand people here and there.
Or are American citizens going to demand?
No, no, no, no, no.
When we say mass, we mean the tens of millions of people who are here unlawfully, illegally, and the Democrats intend to make voting citizens.
We want them removed.
And then, you know, on the feasibility question, I think one thing that has not been explored, and I think, you know, it's obviously important to be discreet in these kinds of conversations, as to not giving an advantage to the far left or the
Democrat AGs who are trying to litigate these questions. But there's a lot of tools now, technologically,
that we didn't have, you know, 10 or 15 years ago to ensure that, you know,
illegal aliens who are here using social services, using emergency rooms, don't have access
to the largesse of the American taxpayers.
So a great example of this is in Florida.
They required hospitals to start verifying status, citizenship or resident status, before they delivered free health care in emergency rooms.
And lo and behold, a lot of migrants stopped showing up at hospitals asking for free health care.
And I think those are the kinds of tools that we can use to discourage illegal aliens from getting a free ride here in the United States.
And really sending home this message that the border is closed.
The border is closed and it's time to go home.
natalie winters
The DNC is, of course, making a huge display and show of, you know, Republicans for Harris, all the washed up DC-based lobbyists, consultant hacks, a lot of them, with ties to the Chinese Communist Party, because of course.
But your thoughts, Stephanie Grisham is the big one that they're wheeling out, either tonight or tomorrow, on what these people, these Republicans, are endorsing.
unidentified
Yeah, I think that's the right way to put this in context, right?
Like every convention has, they'll troop across formers or, you know, they're registered with the other party and look at what they say that's nasty about your party's nominee.
What's different now is that these people, Stephanie Grissom, you know, if you recall the former White House press secretary under Trump who never gave a White House press briefing, what's different about these kinds of characters Is that it's all, all located in a personal animus.
It's about their hatred for Donald Trump.
That's it.
So they want to get up there and say, look, don't vote for Donald Trump, but remember what they're doing by being on stage.
Adam Kinzinger, the former mayor of Mesa, Arizona, John Giles.
These people are giving top cover and sanction to the most radical, the most radical policy
proposals in the history of any major party nominee.
So the Harris-Walls ticket, it is inarguable, is the most radical ticket in the history
of the country.
It makes Eugene McCarthy look like Jesse Helms.
These people are radical leftists and Stephanie Grissom and Adam Kinzinger and John Giles
are going on stage and providing top cover and sanction for that.
And really, at the end of the day, these people shouldn't be trusted.
They're grifters, they're former charlatans, and really the only reason they're there is
because they're motivated by an animus to settle a personal score with Donald Trump.
natalie winters
So true.
Theo, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything that you're working
on, where can they go to check it all out?
unidentified
Yeah, on X at Real Theo Wold and at the Claremont Center for the American Way of Life.
natalie winters
Thank you.
A must follow.
He's laying out all the radical immigration proposals.
Although I guess the scariest part is that the immigration, the codified platform from DNC, it's not even radical enough for the protesters outside.
I guess they don't even, they don't like walls because they're scaling them.
But that, that's the scary part.
And that's the youth that's going to take over the party soon enough.
But we'll have you back on to get into all that.
Theo, thank you so much for joining us.
We'll see you soon.
unidentified
Awesome.
Thanks, Stanley.
natalie winters
Of course.
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By the way, just to the point that Theo was making, I believe it was Anthony Scaramucci Rest in peace to him too, tweeting out that three
presidents to speak at the DNC this week and Trumpism, no presidents.
He isn't with you.
He is with him.
And to that, I would say, Anthony, that's absolutely fantastic that no members of the
globalist uniparty or Democrats, those that are explicit about their party affiliation,
let alone the rhinos, never joined the RNC because we took over the Republican party
and we certainly don't want to go back despite your best efforts to try to claw back all
the victories that we've made through the Trojan horse that is unity.
I always love to say mass weapon of illegal immigration, these migrants.
You can always sort of draw, I think, the Trojan horse comparison, except the only distinguishing difference there is that, well, at least the city of Troy actually had fortified walls and a gate that you had to breach.
We don't really even have that.
We're joined by Mike Benz after this short break.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
natalie winters
Welcome back to the War Room, home of misinformation, disinformation, and so much
more. I'm sure with the entity and organization we're about to unpack with Mike Bann shortly.
We probably get a very low rating from them, but I'm honored to be on the receiving end of that.
But Mike, you guys have a great new report up at the Foundation for Freedom Online, walking through this, you know, media literacy again, one of these weird euphemistic terms they love to use.
Groups, that's Per the headline, operating in over 90% of American classrooms, they're targeting the children, imagine that.
Can you walk the audience through the new report?
mike benz
Yes, Natalie, this is a very important topic called media literacy.
And if you haven't heard that term before, you're going to be hearing a lot more about it in the months and years ahead.
It is a major initiative by effectively rogue elements of the U.S.
government to institute a North Korea-style control over the news programming that Children and adults later in life experience basically after Trump won the 2016 election the blob Decided that they lost because there was too much alternative news there were too many Bannon war rooms around too many Breitbart's or OAN's or gateway pundits or you name it and the the poor little New York Times in Washington Post were getting outflanked by all this mean
You know nasty misinformation and alternative opinions on the internet and so they came together and came up with
this branding device called media literacy in order to launder their control back in now you when you hear the phrase
media literacy you think that means underprivileged inner city school kids being taught how to become literate and
reading the news.
That is not what it means.
Media literacy means if you don't read the right media sources, you are deemed to be illiterate and you need to get your mind right.
And so, there have now been over a dozen U.S.
states since 2016 that have passed mandatory media literacy laws requiring K-12 students in those states' public schools To take media literacy courses to be trained about what they can and can't read and what they can and can't cite.
So if you're familiar, Wikipedia, for example, the reason that it's such a dystopic, you know, Soviet-style information gulag is because they have a whole blacklist that they curate around the kinds of news, the kinds of news sources that can be cited.
So if there's something true posted in Fox News and there's an article that can't be entered into Wikipedia, they have a cartel over the sources that can be cited.
So even if you're right, you can't open your mouth to speak because your citation doesn't come from a regime-friendly source.
And Newsella is one of these big media literacy business for-profit business entities that has now penetrated 90% of U.S.
schools with these media literacy programs.
And when I say big business, I mean Newsella in 2019 when this was getting started and ushered in by the U.S.
government, They were rated one of the top 500 fastest-growing companies in America.
They were ranked number 211 on the, I think, Fast Company's list of top 500 fastest-growing companies.
And they are a professional censorship organization.
What they do is they translate news articles into age-friendly texts for kindergartners, first-graders, second-graders, all the way up through grade 12.
And they provide curriculums for teachers to teach students about what kind of news to read.
Now, they also have been a big part in the advertising boycott ecosystem.
They joined the ADL boycott to get Facebook to change the terms.
They wrote a letter to Facebook's advertisers demanding that advertisers stop advertising on Facebook until Facebook takes down hate speech, misinformation, and disinformation.
And they even lobby counties to seek federal government grants in order to pay Nuzella with, meaning robbing taxpayers from their income tax around the country in order to subsidize a for-profit censorship mercenary firm.
natalie winters
And Mike, I want to walk through, there's an interesting synergy, I think, between this story and the news breaking today that lawmakers out in California are wanting to give hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to basically create, we always say it's state-sponsored propaganda, but this is blatantly state-subsidized media.
But can you kind of walk us through how I would argue this is sort of the logical extension, if not conclusion, of this broader mindset where it's not just media literacy, it's straight up the media?
mike benz
Yeah, it's actually a sister branch of it.
Media literacy has a sister branch called media sustainability.
Let me put this all together.
Media literacy is about control over the kinds of news that you can access on the internet and in the classroom.
Media sustainability is about rigging the economics of the news industry in order to prop up the revenues of faltering regime media assets that are becoming uncompetitive.
There's a two-prong attack that they've been seeking now for eight years, and we are now well into the maturity of this plan.
Literally, these people all got together in a room.
I've posted videos of this on my ex-account.
I do weekly subscriber lectures on this exact topic, where I go through these meetings these people had in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019.
2016, 2017, 2018, 2019.
And the strategy is to bankrupt alternative news producers and to government subsidize pro-media,
government, media, pro-government media news producers.
And so part of this prong involves advertising boycotts.
As we saw USAID, FFO published a study on USAID literally having a whole blueprint 31 times in a 97 page document calling for advertiser outreach to get advertisers to kill revenue to places like the War Room.
But then the flip side of that is media sustainability.
So the New York Times is faltering.
The Washington Post is faltering.
They're having to cut staff.
There are tons of layoffs all over the mainstream media ecosystem.
And what they are doing is they are creating a sort of pop-up newsroom of all these different assets.
Many of them come through an entity called First Draft, which is tied to the deep state in more ways than I can probably have time to hallucinate here.
But essentially what they're trying to do is a North Korea-style state-funded media surround sound that can drown out the organic news generated by alternative news while killing the revenue to alternative news so they can't produce as much.
So it's turning their own knob up and turning down the voices and tongues of any media institution that opposes the party line.
natalie winters
And how much of this do you think is sort of a response to the 2020 election in January 6th stuff?
In other words, trying to create an ecosystem where these alternative voices, whatever you want to describe them as, don't have the ability to push back.
And to that point, how do you think you'll start to see these kind of state subsidized media outlets and fact checking organizations be deployed as we get closer to the 2024 election?
mike benz
So it was actually a response to the 2016 election.
And much of this infrastructure was set up under Trump's nose without him really being, him or his White House or his federal agencies, even really being apprised of any of this.
Again, they use these kind of camouflage terms.
They'll often wander these through networks with universities that have these government touch points, but that they don't talk about very publicly.
And the funding will often be disguised.
I remember going into the White House budget office while I worked in the White House.
And telling everyone about these grants and they said, Ben's there aren't any censorship grants.
We just ran a USA spending.gov search.
I said, they don't call it censorship guys.
They call it media literacy.
They call it digital resilience.
This is how they, and so there's this whole sort of academic jargon.
Frankly, this is the way Marxism, you know, set in across, you know, uh, then many sort of Marxist sympathetic ideology set in, out of, uh, out of a growth initially from esoteric academic jargon that was incubated in universities for a decade or two before it got out to the public, and that's effectively what was done here.
This thick, laden of jargon, and then you turn around and, hey, there's $45 million that the state of California is giving out to its media buddies.
And this is part of what I'm here to try to translate for folks.
But again, it was really a response to the 2016 election.
The whole field of media literacy was born, as they themselves even describe it, the catalyst
for it was the 2016 election.
Now they definitely upscaled it all ahead of 2020.
These were entities like Stanford, Stanford University, the University of Washington teamed
up with DHS to mass censor hundreds of thousands of accounts effectively during the 2020 election
cycle.
I actually just posted on my X timeline today how the University of Washington is working
with the US.
Embassy in Helsinki to bring media literacy and censorship of disinformation and misinformation to Finland, but it's everywhere.
It's all around the world now being run through our State Department, our Pentagon, our intelligence services, lauded through universities, Propped up by these aligned private sector mercenary firms like NewsGuard and NewsElla.
And this is basically a way of having total information control in a democracy.
And when a democracy, when power is determined by elections, and elections are determined by hearts and minds, then whoever controls the flow and framing of news controls the hearts and minds, therefore the election, therefore the seats of political power.
So this is really the God button that they're going for here.
And all of it can be stopped by the House Appropriations Committee or a Republican majority in Congress that is willing to fight on the budget to strip this from the bone of this totally corrupt house of skeletons that's sitting in the American empire's closet.
natalie winters
It's so funny you bring this up.
I just did a long form episode drilling down on how you are so right.
All these grants for, you know, misinformation or whatever, you know, nice term they use, started popping up around 2016, which I think sort of really deals a death blow to this whole narrative, right?
That misinformation is like the greatest existential threat that we've ever faced.
Because they astroturfed it in 2016, right?
You never heard the word misinformation before President Trump won.
And I think the buried lead in all of this, I think we both sort of broke this story, what was it, a year or two ago, when the National Science Foundation started funding grants, not to even debunk stories, but to pre-bunk.
And that right there shows you that they don't even want people being able to form These, you know, dissident thoughts, right, these heterodox ideas, they want to pre-bunk it.
I mean, that's on face value such a radical concept, let alone when it's state subsidized pre-bunking.
I mean, that is next level, almost too radical for the DNC and the protesters outside.
But speaking of those protesters, I know you've been kind of drilling down on the interesting convergence and similarities between the BLM riots and stuff that we've seen, kind of the rent-a-riot, as you always describe it, going on overseas and Tim Walz's ties to all this.
We have a few minutes, so I'll let you start.
I'll have to interrupt you, but why don't you kind of start walking the audience through that.
mike benz
Sure.
A quick note, since you mentioned the National Science Foundation and their censorship programs, you know, in the charter document for the National Science Foundation's Convergence Accelerator Track F program, which gave something like $50 million to U.S.
censorship organizations, they say that the purpose of the program is to stop misinformation about democratic institutions, and then they rattle off a list of democratic institutions, and one of them is the media.
So this is literally a government program to stop people from slandering the good name of the media.
I mean, this is the government literally propping up its propaganda pawns and robbing taxpayers to put that censorship program in place.
I mean, if Iran did this, we would pass sanctions on them for undermining an open society.
But when we do it, you know, we call it democracy promotion and counter misinformation.
But on this question of the role of Black Lives Matter riots in 2020 and its similarity to the kind of rent-a-riots that are organized by U.S.
intelligence overseas and where Tim Walz fits into this, this is one of these things that to my mind is unsubstantiated but quite curious.
Tim Walz was a guy who had a very strange start to his career, basically being a You know, been to China 30 times.
He was shipped out to China.
What do you mean, Mike?
natalie winters
That's totally, totally normal if your business is, you know, in bed with the Chinese Communist Party.
I'm going to hold you through the break.
I'll stop you there.
We'll keep people on the edge of their seat to go through Mike Waltz.
It's not this time ties to the Chinese Communist Party, but the interesting Eccentricities of the BLM riots and how it sort of looks like a color revolution, if we're allowed to say that.
We might get a pre-bunked, debunked, whatever form of bunking they want.
We'll never stop saying the truth here on The War Room.
We'll be right back after this short break.
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We're still joined by Mike Benz.
Now Mike, there's nothing demure about these censorship zealots in terms of coming for
not just the First Amendment, but frankly the entirety of the country.
But I think, I guess there's nothing really demure about these protesters either.
But can you walk us through, again, where I had to interrupt you, the sort of convergence between what we see going on overseas and Tim Walz's kind of overseeing, if not instigation, of riots in 2020.
mike benz
Yes, no, the convergence is not very brat.
I mean, essentially, you have this very dirty set of deeds that we do around the globe, which involve destabilization techniques.
You mentioned this phrase, color revolution, which was never a dirty phrase until several years ago when folks started to notice the strange similarity between our democracy promotion work around the world and what was happening against Donald Trump, his candidacy and his presidency here in the U.S.
Essentially, there are two ways to overthrow a government.
One is top-down from the military.
Essentially, you bribe a country's military junta, a critical faction of its generals and law enforcement officials, to seize the country by force from the top down with the military and run the president out and then install a new president.
But the other way, which is the sort of modern technique that's been perfected by the State Department and CIA and psychological operations folks in the Pentagon and our USAID NGO soft power swarm army, is a bottom-up revolution.
Instead of the military running the president out, if you can't control the military, then what you do is you get millions of people in the country to take to the streets in protest, and you shut down the organs of government.
You shut down The transportation, the federal buildings, you shut down, you know, basically the ability of the government to even use instruments of the government to contain the riots, while you are simultaneously bribing and threatening those government officials to leave office or defect.
This is a very, very powerful formula.
This was basically at the heart of the Arab Spring.
If folks remember in Tunisia and in Egypt, this is what we did in Ukraine in 2014 with the Euromaidan Square riots.
One of the things that I've been talking about a fair amount in the past few weeks has been the strange similarity between our literal race riot planning guide from the U.S.
Special Forces and what popped off under the governorship of Tim Walz, who happened to also be the chairman of the Special Forces Caucus in Congress.
So there's this 2021 prospectus document that the US Special Operations Forces put out
about how they would hypothetically cause race riots in a country in Africa in order to kill a commercial deal
between the Africans and the Chinese.
And this involved essentially bribing assets within crowds, sparking a whole media and social media campaign,
quote, inflaming tensions of the Africans against the Chinese corporations they worked for,
and even economically bribing the people doing the rioting by having USAID fly in and give them all no-show jobs
at USAID job fairs so that while they were boycotting and rioting and shutting down the country,
they would still be getting paid.
Instead of by private sector Chinese corporations in Africa, by truck drivers in Louisiana and Montana here via their
income tax payments to USAID.
So, that came from the Special Forces' perspective in 2021.
And Tim Walz happened to be the chairman of the Special Forces Caucus in Congress before he became the governor of
Minnesota in 2019.
And you also happen to have this strange situation where Minnesota happened to onboard the country's largest population of Somali war refugees.
Now, when Somalia brings refugees from a war zone, I'm sorry, when the U.S.
Pentagon And Mike, we're coming up against the end of the show, so I know the audience is going to kill me for interrupting you like they always do, but we'll have you back on tomorrow.
natalie winters
I'm going to make you commit to it on air to pick up where you left off.
But in the meantime, I know you've done other media reports on this and X streams on it.
If people want to follow you to drill down on this story, where can they go to do that?
mike benz
Follow me on X, at MikeBendCyber.
I have videos, receipts.
You'll see the whole story in 4K HD, so at MikeBendCyber on X. Very brat.
natalie winters
Mike, thank you for joining us.
mike benz
Thank you.
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natalie winters
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