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WarRoom Battleground EP 591: Lies Of Fauci; England Burns
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room Battleground.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
kasie hunt
Dr. Fauci, one of the things you write about in your book is the relationship, the fraught relationship that you had with Donald Trump when he was president.
And I know you've also dealt with the fallout of the politicization of everything that you dealt with in that you have to have security because there have been so many threats against you and against your family.
We're now facing the prospect That Donald Trump could be restored to the White House.
And there are questions about, certainly Democrats have raised the prospect of him taking vengeance against people he considers to be his political enemies.
I think my question for you is, aren't you concerned if Donald Trump were to become president again, that you or aides to you during this time might be prosecuted or face additional consequences for what happened during the pandemic?
anthony fauci
Well, Casey, I don't know what one would prosecute me for.
I mean, figure something out.
What are we talking about?
I mean, as a public health official, a scientist, I played a major role in the development of the vaccine that was responsible for the saving of millions of lives.
So if that's what you're accusing me of, then I'm definitely guilty of that.
But I'm not sure what people talk about when they say prosecute.
For what?
I mean, there was no crime there.
There were just public health officials like myself and others who were on the team who were doing our best to save the lives of people in this country and worldwide.
So, I mean, I don't want to be cavalier about it, but I don't even know what they're talking about.
kasie hunt
All right, fair enough.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, I really appreciate your time, sir.
It's always great to see you.
The new book is On Call, A Doctor's Journey in Public Service.
peter mcilvenna
Good afternoon, and welcome to Stephen K. Bannon's War Room on Tuesday, the 13th of August, in the year of our Lord, 2024.
My name is Peter McIlvenna, and it's my honor to be your host for the next hour.
I'm the co-founder and host of Hearts of Oak, and you see that streamed On War Room every Monday, Thursday and Saturday unless we get bumped by Trump, which is a phrase I never thought I would use.
But this is day 44 of Steve's imprisonment because he is a threat to the current regime in the White House.
His crime was patriotism, the same crime as Peter Navarro committed.
His sentence is four months in jail, exactly the same as Peter.
And the outcome must be total and absolute success on Tuesday the 5th of November.
When I was invited on today, I talked to Carly Bonet, Midnight Rider, who's the War Room Posse's video clip extraordinaire.
And I told her my sense of trepidation stepping in for Steve, and her response was, next man up.
And for me today, next man up brings bringing you this hour off War Room.
But what does it mean for you?
We have 84 days left until we can return President Trump to the White House.
What does next man up mean for you?
What part do you play in making that happen?
We each play our part.
So ask yourself, and ask God, what part do you have to play in that to make sure in November we have success.
Now, we have a lot to cover today, as always, in every show.
And it is wonderful to have Dr. Robert Malone, a guest with us often.
Dr. Malone, thank you so much for your time today.
dr robert malone
Thanks for having me on, Peter.
It's good to see you again.
I'm glad you're managing to survive the storm right now with Stormer.
peter mcilvenna
It is a storm.
Two-tier care, as Elon Musk is posting, and we'll touch on that in a little bit.
But in the cold opener, it was Fauci talking about, what would I be prosecuted for?
I'm wondering your thoughts on that.
Does he not seem to get it?
Is he in some kind of bubble?
What's your assessment of that response that seems to not understand the concern of the population?
dr robert malone
Well, Tony Fauci is a gifted player of smash mouth.
He's very much New Jersey, New York and completely insensitive to the issues.
But what I found fascinating with that clip was that CNN was repeatedly lobbying him softballs to basically prompt him to attack Donald Trump.
For the prospect and really to raise the fear in the CNN audience of a retaliatory Donald Trump.
And Fauci wouldn't take the bait.
Basically, Fauci is messaging that he doesn't think that Donald Trump's administration, this next term, is going to take the political retaliatory lawfare approach that has really characterized the Biden-Harris administration, and you just have given two great examples of Peter and Steve.
So if you unpack what Fauci is really saying here, he's not worried about Trump going on a political vendetta like has clearly characterized what the Democrats have done under this administration over the last four years, which I find fascinating.
Now, you've got to get past Fauci's lies and misrepresentations and general attitude.
But when you unpack all that, he's not worried because he knows that that's not the way Donald Trump is wired.
I think Trump is going to come in and focus on the problems.
And there are many.
He doesn't have to go after political opponents and take this kind of lawfare vendetta approach that we've seen so widely deployed against conservatives under the Biden-Harris administration that we can absolutely expect under a Harris-Walls administration.
peter mcilvenna
No, exactly.
Another thing that came out was Fauci talking about his tense relationship, and supposedly this is something in this book that I don't think I'll get to read, as there are many other books coming out, including your book, that we'll end on.
But that tense relationship, that's kind of heartening to the voters because the whole issue of Operation Warp Speed Certainly concerns some of the MAGA base.
And yet hearing that tense relationship makes you realize, actually, it wasn't really that cozy.
And maybe he's using that to attack Trump, but that will only, I think, endear Trump to his support base.
dr robert malone
Yeah, I haven't read the book either and I have no intention of doing so.
My understanding is they had to discount it right off the bat.
It's not selling that well and clearly CNN is trying to give him a helping hand.
But I really think that what this is all indicating is a sense from somebody who knows Trump well.
That this guy is a business person.
He is focused on the mission.
I'm talking about Donald Trump.
And he's not going to be seeking to replay old battles.
Now, is there any merit to holding any of these people accountable?
The lies that have come in front of Congress.
I mean, remember that Navarro and Bannon, as you say, have been have been convicted of patriotism, and they've also been
convicted of refusing to rat out or in some way enable attacks on Donald Trump.
That's really what's happened here, by refusing to testify.
And what we have here is a case where not only Mr. Fauci, Dr. Fauci, but a lot of his
subordinates have clearly lied to Congress, and yet he has no fear for himself or his
subordinates.
That a Trump administration is going to come after him for those lies, because that's not what a Trump administration is going to be focused on.
That's not what is really going to serve the interests of the American people.
We have too many larger problems than the need to refight old battles, as much as many of us would like to see that and like to see some accountability.
peter mcilvenna
Yeah, I would love to see vengeance and retribution, but yeah, there are enough issues to fix in the U.S.
and I think that will have to wait until a little bit later.
Robert, you're speaking at an event later on this evening and I appreciate your time because I know you're always in demand and off to an event later today.
And you're speaking at the Liberty Forum of Silicon Valley.
I know you've been there before, speaking on weaponized fear.
And psychological bioterrorism, which is a large title.
But I mean, maybe touch on one or two of the points that you're going to bring out.
We can't all get there to the West Coast.
So maybe give us one or two thoughts that you're going to bring out in that talk.
dr robert malone
So there are still some tickets left here in San Jose.
If anybody wants to come, they're more than welcome.
But the key issues here are the weaponization of fear of infectious disease.
This is really what has been used to control populations, and it's continuing.
We have the World Health Organization speaking now about yet another round of fear porn concerning monkeypox.
And we've now been subjected to well over six months of fear, weaponized fear, concerning avian influenza when there's no evidence of sustained human-to-human transmission.
And the Americans that have become infected by bird flu have developed the You know, at worst, a bad case of conjunctivitis, ergo red eye.
This has been promoted.
It's been used to justify hundreds of millions of dollars of expenses.
And the likes of Rick Bright seem to be on the edge of their seats, just waiting to find some example of somebody in the United States having to be hospitalized or dying for this.
It's really rather macabre.
But it is absolutely another case of this weaponization of fear of infectious disease in order to promote various public policies, advance political interests, and scare the heck out of the population for no reason at all.
And that's what I'm talking about with psychological bioterrorism and weaponization of fear.
This is behavior which must be shunned.
We must stop and no longer tolerate this type of action from public health officials that is really being used to promote The vaccine industry, to promote pharmaceutical industry interests, to promote the whole biodefense industrial complex, and to suck money from taxpayers to subsidize these activities.
So that's just a tiny part of what's going on with all of this, as Schellenberger and Taibbi like to call the censorship industrial complex.
It's so much bigger than this.
We have a situation in which psychological bioterrorism and psychological warfare technologies
that have been developed against our – for offshore combat against our adversaries in
Afghanistan, et cetera.
That's all being deployed against the American people and of course against the citizens
of all the Five Eyes Alliance nations there in the UK.
You're seeing it in a way that I fear we're going to see it in spades if we have a Harris-Walls
administration come in where Mr. Walls has already made clear statements that he doesn't
support free speech.
And this is very reminiscent of what you're seeing under Starmer there in the UK.
This is where we're heading.
Is the deployment of fear, weaponized fear and other methods in order to manipulate populations together with the censorship and propaganda that is on display on a daily basis these days.
peter mcilvenna
Completely.
And what is happening in the UK I think should be a warning to the world and I know we're going to cover that later in the show with Calvin Robinson and Lawrence Fox and what is happening in the UK with our two-tier police system and hundreds and hundreds, I think 800 people being rounded up.
So what is happening in the UK is not just concerning for the UK but is a concern.
dr robert malone
The number I've heard is that well over 3,000 people in the UK have been charged or imprisoned for basically free speech crimes.
In contrast, I think it's less than 600 have been so charged in Russia over the last year.
I mean, the differences are striking.
And then, of course, just yesterday, we had the actions from the European Union threatening Elon Musk directly for having a X Spaces discussion with Donald Trump.
This is clear, unequivocal election interference going on on the part of the European Union.
Attempting to manipulate U.S.
election results.
And, of course, we had the DDoS attack, etc., that tried to shut that down.
We're just seeing the beginning of what is going to be a concerted psychological warfare campaign against the citizens of the United States and, of course, against the citizens of the U.K., Canada, New Zealand, and Australia.
peter mcilvenna
No, we are.
And what the European Union did was concerning.
And Elon Musk's response is golden.
Something that I can't repeat on TV at the moment.
Robert, I want to get into your book.
I want to mention that before we let you go.
Your book's coming out in a few months.
Again, it will be under Skyhorse.
Do you want to fill us in on that?
dr robert malone
Yeah, so Cywar Enforcing the New World Order is the name of the book.
We have a nice forward by General Flynn, a number of endorsements from folks that you would all recognize there in the posse, and the intent of the book is to give the reader Much better understanding of the methods and technologies that are being deployed against us, all of us, and why they're being deployed.
And my hope is that by reading this, you can become better prepared to not be influenced by this.
For instance, we just talked about the Psychological bioterrorism with avian influenza that we've all been experiencing and subjected to.
And many people on our side that you would think after going through the COVID crisis would be immune to this kind of manipulation have still succumbed to it.
I hope that by understanding what is going on, the methods that are being deployed and why they're being deployed, understanding what's going on in this new world order agenda where there's a effort to place nation states more like in the European Union at the bottom of the governing hierarchy with the United Nations and the World Economic Forum basically becoming the Operational world government and then above that the globalized public-private partnerships setting the precedent.
This is corporatism.
That's the that's the structure that they want to implement and they really don't respect things like the US Constitution and that's what is the attempt is to try to foster and enforce using these technologies.
So the goal of the book is is to teach all of us, and particularly folks like those on the posse, to see through what they're doing and to become a lot more resistant to it.
peter mcilvenna
Well, look forward to that coming on.
Obviously, people can follow you at RWMaloneMD on Twitter and all the details of the book I'm sure will be out there.
They can, of course, sign up to your sub stack, which is essential reading, especially the many comedy clips and jokes and things to keep us laughing through the chaos.
And I think humor is extremely powerful.
So at RWMaloneMD, make sure and follow it.
Dr. Malone, thank you so much for your time today, as always.
dr robert malone
Thanks for having me on, Peter.
peter mcilvenna
Great to have you and we are going to leave the US.
We're going to leave the shores there and we're going to head over to Europe and we're going to join Calvin Robinson and Lawrence Fox.
I think our brand new guests in War Room and this is one of the fun things thinking about coming on.
I wanted to try and introduce some new guests on to War Room.
So it is Father Calvin Robinson and Lawrence Fox.
Guys, thank you for joining us today.
unidentified
It's an absolute pleasure.
Thanks for having us on.
How you doing, Peter?
peter mcilvenna
I'm all the better for seeing you two, and so much to talk about.
And obviously, Calvin tried to be ordained Church of England.
That was blocked because, well, he's a Christian and has biblical views on gender and sexuality.
And he and Lawrence do Fox and Father together every week.
And of course, Lawrence being an actor, acting dynasty, and he now heads
up the Reclaim Party and causes mischief on Twitter.
I think that's a fair enough assessment.
If I can ask you both, what's your kind of assessment?
Elon Musk tweeted last week that civil war is inevitable in the UK, which there's no way out of that.
That's an absolute statement.
What were your thoughts when you saw him posting that on Twitter?
unidentified
I thought, thank goodness we have an ally.
Because everyone in the establishment, whether it's the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Prime Minister, it doesn't matter who they are in mainstream media, anyone who's part of the establishment is against the working class people of Great Britain.
So the ordinary folk don't really have much of an avenue.
They've got us on Fox & Father, they've got a few independent outlets in the UK, but no establishment figure is speaking out for them.
Elon Musk comes out and says, Keir, what's going on with the two-tiered system?
Why are you treating the Mohammedans one way and the British subjects another way?
There's clearly a bias going on.
We need that big voice to kind of be on our side.
Yeah, it is strange that Elon Musk, in between building earthquake-proof tunnels through Los Angeles and designing spaceships to go to Mars, has enough time to Have a poppet do the job of His Majesty's opposition in the United Kingdom, which is what a Conservative really should be doing in the UK.
So it's wonderful to see what he's doing.
And it's even more wonderful to see how upset it makes all of the establishment figures who are sitting there saying, this is terrible.
Why has this man got an opinion?
We're the opinion.
We have the opinions.
peter mcilvenna
It's embarrassing.
I guess the War on Posse will be kind of perplexed thinking in an election you have voting one side wins, one side loses, but you've got an opposition there in your parliament.
The UK doesn't have that.
Do you want to just let the War on Posse understand what it actually means in the UK that we don't have any opposition to this far left government?
unidentified
Yeah, we have a uniparty because we have a two-party system.
No third party can really break through the United Kingdom because of our first-past-the-post voting system.
But it essentially means that either you vote for the left-wing party of Labour or you vote for the lesser left-wing party of the Conservatives.
In this general election, people decided to no longer vote for the Conservatives, but they didn't necessarily go out and vote for Labour.
So Labour won by default, but they didn't get a landslide victory.
They let Armando serve, really.
And then we have this sort of, with every passing day, I think it's more dreadful opposition to the opposition, which is reform, which has this very bankrupt business model of saying that it has members, but it doesn't.
It has subscribers.
You pay to join it, and you don't get a say in what the policies of the party are.
So it feels very much like a wedding And there's a grown-ups table and there's a child's table.
And in order to get on the grown-ups table, you can't talk about things like the rape, murder and pillaging of our country.
You have to put it all in really nice language.
And I think that the British people, in fact, I know it's true because we've been at these mass demonstrations, the British people do not have a political voice in Parliament.
It's a very dangerous thing to have a situation in society where there's no political solution to it.
We have a problem in our country where the only solution is going to be one driven by the people.
And what has Keir Starmer done?
He's deliberately tried to clamp down on the people.
And that's not to condone the rioting, but the rioting happens for a reason.
Unless he deals with causation, he's going to be in real trouble.
Yeah, I think people are fed up, right?
So for years and years, we've had mass immigration, pretty much since Tony Blair's government in 1997.
But successive Conservative and Labour governments have increased mass immigration.
Well, people have argued from a resource perspective, saying, well, the hospitals are full, the schools are full, we don't have enough houses, which is all true.
But actually, it's the cultural perspective that's coming to play now.
Knife crime is at an all-time high.
peter mcilvenna
Burglary, all-time high.
If you just hold it there, we'll go for a quick break and we'll have you straight back on again in a moment or two.
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This nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon.
peter mcilvenna
And welcome back.
We're just going to jump on and finish off with Calvin and Lawrence.
And we've just got three minutes left.
But I wanted to get their thoughts on two-tier policing.
And we've just touched on it with Robert Malone earlier on.
And it fits into his new book coming out.
And he was intrigued at the chaos we're facing in the UK.
I haven't seen a two-tier policing in my time that is where we are.
Do you want to just let the viewers know where we are in the UK with our two-tier police system?
unidentified
Hussein Alinzi, a father who battered a schoolgirl with a metal bar for wearing make-up, walk free from court.
So they're going to tell us that there's no two-tier policing.
Here, Salma's making a huge mistake.
He's trying to apply a sticking plaster to a gaping wound.
And the United Kingdom is in real trouble when you try and deal with that.
Because if we can frighten them, we live in a two-tiered police,
two-tiered judiciary, two-tiered society. That's our problem in the UK.
And anyone who denies it is a liar.
I got off the phone recently from a 51-year-old woman who's been arrested and
almost tortured by the police.
It was threatening behaviour, intimidation, saying things like,
we will never see your dog again.
dr robert malone
Absolutely horrendous.
unidentified
For what?
Well, for tweeting something.
For retweeting something.
People can murder, people can rape, people can stab, people can abuse and get away with it.
If they're from a certain demographic.
But you tweet something about it and you'll be the one who's put in prison.
That's the problem.
The far left, who are in government right now, see people reporting on the problem as the problem itself.
Because they are incapable of addressing the real issues in our society.
And that is why we have two tips to start.
peter mcilvenna
And it seems to be the only response is you were there at those demos in June, in July, and there is a new response from the population of frustration with this.
And that seems to be where we're going and seems to be the only way out of it, people power.
That's actually fairly unusual for the UK.
unidentified
Yeah, I've been saying ever since I accidentally fell into politics that there is no political solution to the problem that we're facing.
And it's going to take, on the 1st of June, we had 25,000.
On the 27th of July, we had 100,000.
And when we march again, which we will, we're going to have a million.
And we're going to have to show the government they don't listen when they're going to be dealing with a million people.
We had the entire processes of the Houses of Commons changed by four or five angry Palestinian protesters.
Imagine what a million will do.
They can call us far right all they want, but it won't shut us down.
We'll continue to speak up.
We'll continue to turn the silent majority into a very vocal majority, actually.
peter mcilvenna
When you've got truth on your side, that needs to be spoken, definitely.
Let us know, actually, at Calvin Robinson on Twitter, at Laws of Fox on Twitter, at media underscore reclaim.
Just finish off with Fox and Father.
Where can people get that and when does it come out?
unidentified
We're going to do one tomorrow because my amazing tech person... We've got a little microphone.
My amazing tech person has given us loads of gear, so we're going to do one from here.
It's Fox & Father.
It's on our YouTube channel, Reclaim the Media.
It's out every Thursday at 7pm.
And we try to put the world to rights from a Christian, conservative perspective.
He just tells me that I'm wrong and I'm a soppy liberal.
He is a bit of a liberal.
peter mcilvenna
Well, I encourage the viewers to jump onto that and you'll get a perspective that is refreshing and different, and certainly for the War Impulse, you'll enjoy getting an understanding from a UK perspective.
So, Lawrence and Calvin, thank you so much for your time today on The War Room.
unidentified
Thank you, brother.
peter mcilvenna
God bless you.
And we are going to jump to the border.
Todd Bensman is with us down there in Panama, and it's the Dorian Gap.
And I had to look it up, Todd, so please forgive me for my lack of geographical understanding.
But do you want to let us, that's quite a key area because it seems to be the only land crossing actually between Colombia and Panama and it doesn't, it's not like motorway territory, it does seem to be very intense.
Do you want to just let us know what that is, that piece of land that really is so vital?
todd bensman
Right, this is a bottleneck migration route That through which more than one and a half million immigrants have passed to the U.S.
border from all over the world, and that includes Muslim-majority countries, every country of Africa, 60,000 Chinese, everybody from around the world must pass through the Darien in order to get to our border.
The reason I'm here is because the Panama has a brand new president, Raul Mulino, who has promised for the first time ever that he is going to close the Darien Gap to all of this traffic coming to the border.
This is a major, major story for the U.S.
southern border and the border crisis there.
Now, the president here, Mulino, says he's going to deport.
They're going to catch and deport instead of catch and release for the first time in, like, memory.
That is a very big deal.
But they asked for American help from the Biden administration.
DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas came down here and signed an agreement.
We're going to give you air assets to help you fly people all the way back to these other parts of the world.
But guess what?
The president here, we're a month into his plan and he's like, where are the Americans?
They're gone.
You promised us aid and assistance, and there's nothing going on with that.
You haven't followed through on your promise.
peter mcilvenna
I mean, the time gap is, what, 3,000 miles away or so from the southern border in Texas.
And U.S.
citizens may think, you know, this is a faraway issue that doesn't affect us.
But it is vital.
And immigration does still seem to be the number one issue on voters' minds.
todd bensman
Yes, and remember, because of the multinational makeup of this traffic, this is a national security threat.
The Panamanians just caught several terrorists coming through here and they rounded them up here, the Panamanians.
The Panamanians roll up a lot of terrorists that you never even hear about.
In the local press, because people are coming in from the Palestinian territories, the Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, everywhere they're coming through here, including almost 400 who have actually reached our border and been apprehended who are on the FBI's terrorism watch list.
So far, just in the first three years, three and a half years of the Biden-Harris administration.
So this is a very significant national security choke point, the Darien Gap.
And if you have a president of the country that controls the area promising to close it down, and the American government doesn't follow through, That's a big, what the hell is going on?
What do you mean you're not going to follow through on your promises?
I mean, this is a golden opportunity to enhance U.S.
national security and the U.S.
national interest, but they don't seem to be following through.
I'm here in Panama City in the National Assembly chambers behind me right here.
This is where they do their legislation.
This is their Congress.
Today is nobody's here, but I'm here to interview some politicians and then from here I'll be going down into the jungle to interview immigrants.
I just came back from a week on the Colombian side.
You can go to my ex or getter or true social and you can find a lot of my video that I've been putting up from that.
I haven't written my report yet because I'm still down here reporting.
peter mcilvenna
And of course, the book is there on the screen, Overrun, How Joe Biden Unleashed the Greatest Border Crisis in US History.
One of the things, whenever I met up with you, whenever I was over in Texas, a friend from the intelligence community talked about the huge respect they had for you because as a journalist you go there and you're reporting there on the ground.
Let me just finish off by saying, what incentive is there for these countries?
Is it purely, does it have to be just a financial incentive from the US?
I mean, who cares from their point of view whether borders are closed or not?
So how do you incentivize those countries to actually do the right thing and close their borders?
todd bensman
Well, unless you're Donald Trump, there's not a lot that anybody has done on the American side diplomatically.
There's a diplomatic solution here to deal with the countries that are transit countries.
For example, in Colombia, you have a very liberal left-wing president who wants... It's in their national interest to see to it that none of these people get stuck in his country where they have to pay for everything.
They want that traffic to move through, so you would have to have the U.S.
State Department threaten sanctions, close off visas to Colombians, that sort of thing, or even the Panamanians when the last administration was in charge.
But here you have a brand new administration that's giving you a golden chalice on a silver plate We're willing to shut this down and help your border.
Remember, Harris, the candidate, is saying, you know, if only the Republicans would have passed this one piece of legislation, we could control our borders.
Well, here you don't have to.
You can shut down 800,000 immigrants are supposed to be coming through, projected to come through the Darien in 2024.
550,000 came through last year.
So here you have a president saying, I'm ready, willing and able.
Give me some air support.
Give me some 737 so I can fly people back to China and Africa and everywhere else.
And we're not doing it.
We said we would, but apparently we're not doing it.
peter mcilvenna
Well, Todd, thanks for your time today.
And I know that you will inspire the Warren Posse to actually make sure they are active and knowing what part they have to play to make sure we have a Trump victory in November.
At Benzmentodd on TwitterX and everywhere else.
Thank you, Todd, for your time today.
todd bensman
Thanks for having me.
This is a big story on our southern border.
This is, to me, the biggest story that's happening.
Uh, about our border right now and how it goes is how our border goes.
If Trump gets in office, he's got this government down here is ready to shut this thing down.
If Harris is, uh, in office, this thing is probably going to stay wide open.
They don't have the money and resources in this country to fly people home.
They have to have us, uh, air support and assets and financial support here in Panama.
peter mcilvenna
Not as huge, and I know the worm posse understand the issue.
So thank you so much for your time, Todd.
We are going to jump to Billboard, Chris.
We'll not play the video, Denver, if that's OK.
We'll just jump in with Chris, because I want to give him the rest of the time on the show.
Chris, thank you so much for being patient.
unidentified
No problem.
chris elston
Thank you so much for having me.
peter mcilvenna
Not at all.
I did want to get you on.
I have been impressed by your work, but I know sometimes the worm gets chock-a-block with so much happening.
So appreciate your time.
And we were going to play a video showing some of the dry queen hours.
And how recent have these been?
I mean, I don't remember having dry queen hours growing up in Ireland.
I don't know if it was a thing for you, Chris, but this seems to be a fairly new perverse phenomenon.
chris elston
No, drag queen story hours were not a thing for me, I can assure you.
So yeah, there was this video done by Joy Reid on MSNBC, this documentary that was produced about drag queens coming into little kids classrooms.
And perhaps the only thing scarier than having a drag queen come talk to little kids would be Joy Reid herself.
But why do we have drag queens coming in to talk to kindergartners?
What's the point of all this?
Why aren't they at senior citizens homes reading to them?
Why do they need to come and talk to little kids?
Of course the answer is because they're trying to recruit little kids into the cult of gender, into queer theory.
They're trying to get them young when their brains are still developing and of course they're just children so they believe anything they're told and they're trying to normalize this business of changing our sex.
There's a lot of money at the top orchestrating this entire campaign all across the world and parents need to put their foot down because no one else is going to put a stop to this but parents.
peter mcilvenna
You travel the world and I've got to see you in London traveling.
You go all over Europe, Canada, America with the sign children cannot consent to puberty blockers, which I thought would be a fairly normal common sense.
How do you see the election coming up?
Because we had told Benjamin, obviously, to discuss illegal immigration, and that is the number one issue, as is the economy for every election.
But surely any parent is concerned about their child being sexualized, especially with government overreach taking away the rights of parents and stepping in there.
So how do you see this issue on protecting children from the sexualization How does that rate in terms of the minds of voters in the US for the upcoming election?
chris elston
So I can tell you I've been present for one of Trump's speeches about a year and a half ago at CPAC and the loudest cheers he got by far were when he said he was going to stop the chemical castration of children and he was going to get men out of women's sports.
This is a massive issue.
This is not some fringe thing.
The New York Times reported that more than 300,000 children between the age of 12 and 17 have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria.
Those are just the kids.
I tweeted out just yesterday, and you can follow me on Twitter at Billboard Chris.
I tweeted out yesterday, there have been 6,000 double mastectomies in the last seven years performed on children.
And almost 200 of those were done on kids who were 12 and a half years of age and Younger.
This was a report put together by the Manhattan Institute looking at all of the insurance data, both public and private.
And it's not just conservative organizations saying this.
Reuters came out with a report last year saying the exact same thing.
So the left like to say, oh, this isn't happening to kids.
Well, my gosh, you just need to do a two-second Google search to learn all about it.
There are all sorts of lawsuits flying now.
And the one issue parents care about more than anything, and I've talked to tens of thousands of people on the street and all the time behind the scenes, is this sexualization of our kids and this abhorrent ideology teaching children that they might have been born wrong.
Gender ideology is teaching kids, primarily girls caught up in a social contagion, that they were supposed to be boys.
And we're supposed to believe this is loving and kind?
This is a message of self-hatred.
And these kids aren't struggling with gender.
They're struggling with other issues.
About half these kids are on the autism spectrum.
Sexual abuse is very common.
Other abuse, trauma, depression, eating disorders, psychiatric disorders, even kids with schizophrenia are being transitioned.
And we had these files leaked from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, where they admitted that with these dissociative identity disorders or schizophrenia, multiple identity disorder, that some of the alternate personalities don't have the same gender identity.
But they're still transitioning these kids.
That's how insane this is.
They're sterilizing children, cutting off the breasts of little girls, and sometimes they're doing these vaginoplasties on minor boys as well.
And it's up to us to put a stop to this.
Two years ago, I was meeting with people in Congress, none of the Republicans wanted to touch it, but we've educated them, and today we have 25 states that have put a stop to this legislatively, and we just need to keep the pedal down, because Democrat parents also don't want their little girls being taught that they're boys.
peter mcilvenna
No, completely.
And for the viewers and listeners, make sure you're following at Billboard, Chris.
Fascinating the work he does.
I saw you posted a few days ago.
President Trump put out a video last week.
At CPAC, I remember I was there last year.
Sadly, I didn't get to meet you because I didn't know you were there.
But I was over at CPAC and I heard that cheer and I was really Pleasantly surprised and happy to hear that enthusiasm from the audience there.
But President Trump said on day one I will sign a new executive order to cut federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory, transgender insanity and other inappropriate racial, sexual or political content on our children.
And that is really exciting because I think I sometimes worry that the election gets caught up in the immigration issue, which is vital, and the economy, which is vital.
But the sexualisation of children affects anyone, whether you have children, whether you have family.
So how did that make you, whenever he put out that statement, you realise actually he is going to do this and he is literally the only one that is going to stop this transgender nonsense?
chris elston
You know, Kamala Harris doesn't even know what a woman is.
She's got pronouns in her bio, thankfully.
We can all figure it out.
But of course, we need all three branches of government doing something.
So he's going to do what he can from the executive branch.
And this is a huge winning issue.
And for people all over the world, all these politicians, it doesn't matter where you are on the political spectrum.
This is a winning issue.
I've had more conversations about this than anyone in the world.
Forget about what all these polls say.
If you ask people, do they support gender-affirming care?
They don't even know what it means.
Some of them will say yes.
But even then, The vast majority of people are against this nonsense.
So the executive branch needs to pull any funding from any of these institutions that are pushing this on kids.
We need the legislative branch to pass a bill.
Marjorie Taylor Greene produced a great bill called the Protect Childhood Innocence Act.
And one senator wanted to pass this bill.
His name is J.D.
Vance, who's now the VP.
He's going to be the VP.
So we're going to get that bill passed through Congress.
And then at the Supreme Court, we now have court cases heading there because of course every state that legislated a stop to this child abuse, of course the ACLU and the Department of Justice sued them for the right to sterilize kids.
But when it goes to discovery and when we go to depositions and we go to court, they don't have any evidence.
So great!
Let's go to court and we're going to put a stop to this and the Supreme Court can help put a stop to this all across the nation so that child abusers like Gavin Newsom in California who's made the state a sanctuary for kids from all over the country to come, can't do this to kids anymore.
peter mcilvenna
No, it is huge.
And of course, Elon has pulled out of there and people can watch the fantastic interactions you have on your Twitter account.
And I think that's part of the understanding those conversations and then realizing that we can also have those conversations with friends, family and begin to approach this, because I think often people are maybe afraid to delve into this, but actually it is vital.
And I think we need to have the conversation.
So, Chris, thank you so much for coming on at Billboard, Chris.
Make sure viewers, listeners or on Posse are following what Chris is doing.
Thank you and have a wonderful rest of your day.
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