Aug. 13, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| Primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies. | |
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
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The people have had a belly full of it. | |
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| Tuesday 13th of August, anno domini. | ||
| Harnwell here at the helm, filling in for Steve Banner. | ||
| With the world teetering on war in the Middle East, developments on the Ukrainian front. | ||
| And we'll be digging down on those things with Captain Fennell and Dr. Thayer. | ||
| Later on in the show, we're going to stay here in the United States right now and domestic news we're going to lead with today. | ||
| And this is the sentencing of Tina Peters, the Mesa County election official, who's a regular guest, has been a regular guest here on The War Room. | ||
| Tina, good morning to you. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Good morning. | ||
| It's been quite the week. | ||
| Yeah, I've been studying some of the developments. | ||
| Your sentencing is in October, right? | ||
| But you were sentenced yesterday and that was guilty of 7 out of 10 counts. | ||
| Absolutely shocking. | ||
| Do you want to give us a run through, Tina, and break this down, because you absolved Found Not Guilty on some of the charges. | ||
| And then some of the similar charges, they seem to me to be identical charges, but differently applied to different instances. | ||
| Do you want to quickly give us a rundown, Tina, and add to the War Impostor and say on what elements of this you were found guilty and on what elements you were found innocent? | ||
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Yes, you bet. | |
| So it's interesting that, and there's more coming, this is just the day after, and I want to let you know that we were able to, my attorney team did a great job, we were able to They were only able to get us on seven out of the ten. | ||
| So double jeopardy means that, of course, we can't get, they can't go after the other | ||
| three. | ||
| And right now we're filing an appeal. | ||
| You know, the thing that is most important here is that there's evidence that was not | ||
| allowed to be brought in. | ||
| Much, much evidence that was not allowed. | ||
| The prosecution put on their dog and pony show for over six days, and even one of their people in the gallery said they're drawing this out so that she won't have time to prevent her defense. | ||
| Well, so we had a little over a day, Every expert, just about every witness, they found a way to exclude, and listen to this, even Mike Frontera, who is Dominion Voting Systems. | ||
| I mean, they are so knee-deep in this that with the Secretary of State, and if people want to go to Patrick Byrne, to the docket, Patrick Byrne's case in Washington, D.C. | ||
| with Stephanie Lambert, there's evidence in there that can exonerate me, that can clear me, but it's not being released. | ||
| And I can't know what it is. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Tina, excuse me, could you just briefly, just the witnesses, some of the witnesses, because this sounds pretty similar to something that happened in Steve Bannon's defense when he wasn't allowed to present key substantial evidence towards his exoneration. | ||
| Just for the purposes, obviously, we're not lawyers, there are some lawyers here following the show, but a lot of people who aren't trained in law. | ||
| Could you just sort of, on this subject, explain Some of the witnesses that were declined, refused for you to call. | ||
| And what the justification was for refusing to allow them to be caught? | ||
| And does this materially affect your appeal? | ||
| The fact that you couldn't introduce key witnesses for your defence? | ||
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It does, and there's gonna be more coming out tomorrow and later this week, but what I can tell you now is that the jury was prevented from hearing real evidence and hearing real witnesses in this case. | |
| And so, for instance, when we brought up an expert, he was escorted off the stand. | ||
| When we brought up another clerk in Colorado that also did a forensic image, He was excused from the stand. | ||
| Every single thing. | ||
| And people need to know it wasn't the local DA here prosecuting us. | ||
| It was the Colorado Attorney General deputies. | ||
| The same attorneys that represent Soros-funded Secretary of State Jenna Griswold. | ||
| And so here you have the state Colorado Attorney Generals that were sworn in to prosecute me. | ||
| They brought up witnesses, they're star witnesses, three of them that lied outright. | ||
| They did not know that we had text messages because everyone's phones were taken. | ||
| except for my information was preserved. | ||
| They thought that there was no evidence out there showing that these people actually lied. | ||
| They knew about Conan Hayes' identity. | ||
| They actually helped with it. | ||
| Conan Hayes was the one that did the image of the Mesa County server that if you go on my website, | ||
| tinapeters.us, people need to see this. | ||
| This has been shielded from the people's view of what these machines, what the Mesa County report showed, what these machines have done. | ||
| Um, and deleted records all over the country. | ||
| So this is a very, it's a complicated case, um, in that there's so much evidence out there that wasn't allowed to be presented, but it's a very simple case. | ||
| It's Dominion and the Secretary of State and the AG Merrick Garland. | ||
| I mean, this goes all the way up to the top. | ||
| This is, this is 71 countries, um, that have been, uh, uh, influenced by these faulty election electronic collection machines. | ||
| And this is what they call the Rosetta Stone of all the evidence that is showing how these operate. | ||
| And that's why they have to come after an almost 70-year-old clerk in a small town called Mesa County, because I listen to the people when they ask me questions. | ||
| Now, the legal part of this, you know, we'll be talking about later in this week, but we are filing a pill. | ||
| There's a motion to lift and the attorneys are working on it right now. | ||
| If people will go to Patrick Byrne, the dock at NDC with Patrick Byrne, Stephanie Lambert, | ||
| there's information and discovery that Stephanie Lambert, his attorney, saw it was a crime | ||
| and presented it to Darlief, Sheriff Darlief, because with all her ethics, as an attorney, | ||
| she could not see a crime and not report it. | ||
| And there is information in there that will prove my innocence and exonerate me. | ||
| So I was prevented from a defense. | ||
| I'm not guilty on three charges, like what I said, so right now we are going forward. | ||
| They prevented us from having our legal defenses, they prevented us from providing evidence, and so this isn't over yet. | ||
| What's the time frame, Tina, for an appeal? | ||
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So they're working on it right now. | |
| There is information in D.C. | ||
| that needs to be, that these attorneys know about. | ||
| The Colorado AG said they didn't have, which we know they do. | ||
| And preventing us from having that in our defense is a violation. | ||
| So withholding exculpatory evidence is a crime. | ||
| So that's being worked on right now. | ||
| There's more going to be developed. | ||
| This is just right on the heels of a conviction yesterday. | ||
| I understand, yeah, obviously that this is fresh and you and your lawyers will be studying this, but the sentencing will take place on the 3rd of October. | ||
| And some of these charges, I think six of these charges, if I'm correctly informed on this, can carry sentences of up to 22 years. | ||
| So this is pretty substantial, I think the three misdemeanors and four felonies that you have been convicted of. | ||
| In terms of the timeframe for an appeal, are you likely to have to go to prison whilst the appeal works out? | ||
| Or will you be allowed to remain free and concentrate with your lawyers on this judicial process with the threat of imprisonment hanging over your head in the background? | ||
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Well, right now I'm free until sentencing. | |
| But, you know, who knows with these people? | ||
| I mean, they haven't followed the law. | ||
| So it's hard to predict what they'll do. | ||
| I am a big threat to them. | ||
| And so the things that were done in this trial that people can go back and watch on Frank Speech was just atrocious. | ||
| I mean, people can see it for themselves. | ||
| Unfortunately, the jury was not allowed to see what was going on. | ||
| They were very shielded from the facts of this case, from the defense of this case, and witnesses that should have been able to present in my defense. | ||
| So, you know, only, I mean, we're going to continue to fight this in the law. | ||
| And in the meantime, until they either kill me or put me in prison, you know, I'm going to keep speaking out about the injustice, about what's going on in these big multinational global corporations that have these vote-flipping software. | ||
| That is basically is in Serbia. | ||
| We've already shown that people in my it that I'm accused of influencing. | ||
| There's emails between them and Serbia and Serbian Dominion employees. | ||
| So it's just it's a bigger a bigger deal than people realize. | ||
| Tina, the case here that you've been found guilty on, in terms of jurisprudence, is there a lot of precedent behind this of previous cases? | ||
| And how does this conviction yesterday affect future trials according to the precise principle of Lord Stake? | ||
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You know, I'm not an attorney, so I would defer to my attorneys to answer those questions. | |
| I do know that this was a miscarriage of justice. | ||
| The jury was not allowed to see the defense. | ||
| And I was going to testify. | ||
| I was looking forward to testifying. | ||
| But when I asked the judge, would he apply the same standard? | ||
| So, so when you, when you testify, then the, uh, the prosecution can only, they have to stay within that narrow scope of what you've testified to. | ||
| And he couldn't promise he would let, he would let them do that. | ||
| They, the, the, the Colorado attorney, a deputy attorney general jumped up so many times interrupting, even our closing arguments. | ||
| You know, at the end, to stop what we were doing, to try to interrupt the train of thought of our attorneys, basically interference in this case every time. | ||
| And this judge would rule with them. | ||
| So people need to go back and watch the trial and see for themselves the kind of travesty that this trial was. | ||
| And I believe we, you know, in the Court of Appeals, that we are going to, you know, hopefully get a fair shake and we'll keep fighting. | ||
| And I'll let you know more as things unfold this week. | ||
| And I've correctly understood that you have made and are making all of the evidence that you would have presented in court, your witnesses would have testified to, all of that will be publicly available. | ||
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Oh yes. | |
| OK, I think it's important, I think, for investigative journalists of all political persuasions to be able to access what you were astonishingly denied ability to present in court and make their own conclusions. | ||
| It seems to me, Tina, that beyond this now, beyond the Court of Appeal, you're aiming also pretty substantially. | ||
| to the court of public opinion, which is important. | ||
| I've just come to myself here in Italy, a four-year criminal case where I was the defendant. | ||
| I was totally exonerated, even by the prosecution itself. | ||
| But four years, it can take a lot out of you. | ||
| Tina, briefly, where do people go, once again, to stay in touch with your developments and | ||
| the information that you were mentioning just also a moment ago? | ||
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You can go to tinapeters.us. | |
| That's the website where people can watch the movie selection code of how this all started. | ||
| You can also read the reports on there. | ||
| I would encourage you to reach out to people like Elon Musk, to people that can actually look at the images themselves. | ||
| They're publicly available. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| Welcome back to the War Room. | ||
| I'm just finishing off with Tina Peters. | ||
| Thanks for coming on the show, Tina. | ||
| I know you've got a lot to deal with now in the next 24, 48 hours, absorbing the details of this conviction from yesterday. | ||
| Will you come back on the show when your lawyers are in a position to furnish you with a little more detail on what the timeframe for the appeals process will be and how that might interact Yes, yes, you bet. | ||
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A lot is going to happen this week. | |
| If people want to go on and look at the Patrick Byrne docket in D.C., that's where a lot of information that they're withholding that can exonerate me as far as the connection. | ||
| I haven't seen any of it. | ||
| But it's, you know, I'm assured that it's there and needs to come out. | ||
| And, you know, I'll keep updating. | ||
| I'm on X at Real Tina Peters. | ||
| I'm doing a lot of updating there and as we're able to put things out. | ||
| This is far, far from over. | ||
| So, I would encourage people to please follow me on X and on Truth, watch Selection Code, share it. | ||
| You can look at the, and if you're able to donate to the, as you can imagine, the Deep State has all the money in the world to go after you and hoping that you'll back down, that you'll give up and you'll go away. | ||
| And I will not do that. | ||
| Well, I noticed that a lot of U.S. | ||
| media has been desperately trying to get in touch with you since this conviction result came out yesterday. | ||
| I'm so very grateful on behalf of the whole of the war room posse that you've come on to the show this morning to debrief us on your situation. | ||
| Thanks for coming on, Tina. | ||
| We'll keep you in our prayers. | ||
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God bless. | |
| Steve Bannon is a good friend, and I appreciate you guys very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you, Tina. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Staying now on the subject of voter integrity, we have Linda Sienkiewicz, who's the founder and CEO of the Fight Voter Forward initiative. | ||
| Linda, good morning. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Thank you so much for having me on. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Well, thanks for coming on the show. | ||
| I gather there are some developments here with some of the research and analysis you've been doing into the situation in Connecticut. | ||
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Well, not just Connecticut, but we are nationwide. | |
| We're in 36 states right now. | ||
| But in Connecticut, we have been really pushing very hard with our information. | ||
| We actually do the deep dive on people we believe violated election laws and also getting the deceased voters off the voter rolls. | ||
| Well, the clean voter rolls is absolutely essential, I think, for the Trump campaign to be concentrating on, because as we've been saying on the show for some time, the very people responsible largely for the stolen election in 2020 are still in place now. | ||
| And if they stole it in 2020, they'll certainly try to steal it again, seeing as many of the principal people who tried to oppose this and fight this. | ||
| have suffered, you know, which are Tina Peterson, for example, but Rudy Giuliani, Steve Bannon, | ||
| President Trump himself, they've all been hit with politically motivated court cases | ||
| of one form or another. | ||
| So to repeat this point, if they try to do it in 2020, they'll certainly try to do it | ||
| again in 2024. | ||
| Looking at your figures here, some of the things that you've uncovered, Connecticut | ||
| voters, white, deceased voters, you found 7,758 on the voter rolls, 2,450 in Florida, | ||
| 703 in Arizona. | ||
| These are the... Arizona specifically is going to be tight. | ||
| It's a swing state. | ||
| Could have massive impact, could decide the future of 2024. | ||
| But I've got the whole list here, a lot that you've uncovered. | ||
| Are you satisfied, Linda, that That work is being done on cleaning up the voter rolls in the time left, the three and a half months left. | ||
| Are you satisfied? | ||
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No, absolutely not. | |
| It is unbelievable that when we actually present information, say, of a deceased voter that's voting, and we prove that they have been deceased, that they're not being removed from Connecticut voter rolls. | ||
| We still have 524 here in Connecticut that we gave 100% evidence the person's been deceased, and they're still on the voter rolls. | ||
| Florida has the Lazarus effect with the deceased voters. | ||
| You know, granted, we only have sent in 2,500 deceased. | ||
| We have another 600 we're going to be sending out this week. | ||
| But the fact is, not only are they active, but they're voting. | ||
| In Connecticut, 524 deceased voters in 2020 voted, some of them even in person. | ||
| I mean, it's insane. | ||
| So we are trying to force the Secretary of State to actually do the registrar's job because here in Connecticut, we have registrar voters. | ||
| Other states have election officials, etc. | ||
| And we're in multiple states. | ||
| We're really pushing hard on the double voters and getting the evidence on those. | ||
| As a matter of fact, I just delivered to the FBI last week in North Carolina, West Virginia, and Maryland evidence of the double voters that voted in federal elections. | ||
| Because we need people to know there are going to be consequences if you double vote. | ||
| And there's hundreds of thousands of people that are double registered across the country, and you should only be registered in one location. | ||
| I mean, that's where you actually live. | ||
| So multiple laws are being violated. | ||
| But we're finding ways around it, and you're going to be hearing our voice very loudly over the next three to four weeks. | ||
| I'm on issues that we've tried to be nice and help everybody out. | ||
| But they've got to stop ignoring us. | ||
| You know, we're done with that. | ||
| The days of nice are long gone. | ||
| And this is the war room, obviously, where we try to be honey badgers rather than nice. | ||
| Your initiative here, it's grassroots-led, right? | ||
| It's volunteer-led. | ||
| Do you want to put a pitch out to the War Impossi for people to get involved? | ||
| It's not just about donating money, is it? | ||
| It's about sort of getting involved, helping to double-check these voter rolls. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I got to give a shout out to Steve Stern because he's been talking about our organization for a while. | ||
| I mean, he's wonderful. | ||
| What you can do, first of all, is go to our website and where it says request data. | ||
| Send us in the information on what county you want the information on for the double registered, double voters. | ||
| And we will send that information to you within 24 to 48 hours. | ||
| We're constantly updating that. | ||
| You can send in through our info. | ||
| There's multiple things that you can actually do in helping out our organization and yourself. | ||
| Something that's directly related to you, not only for us, but if you want to get actively involved in your precincts, you know, we will pass that information on to Steve Stern. | ||
| I do see you had our website up there. | ||
| As you know, we've been in the Supreme Court in Connecticut since May 1st on Wanda the ballot stuffer that everybody's aware of. | ||
| We used an obscure law here in Connecticut. | ||
| It's been on the books since 1953 and was actually used once. | ||
| Fast forward on that, it basically puts it in the hands of the we the people with the evidence to be able to go to a superior court judge who shall issue the arrest warrant. | ||
| And that's what we're in the court over right now with, again, Wanda, the ballot stuffer. | ||
| It's very difficult here in Connecticut. | ||
| People think we're a blue state. | ||
| We're really not blue. | ||
| I would say we're purple, but you couldn't tell because of all the fraudulent registrations that we have here in Connecticut. | ||
| Linda, I realise this next question might be difficult because I suppose, like everyone else, you only got on to studying the election integrity issue more deeply after 2020, so that a frame of reference of before that might be difficult. | ||
| But tell me, what are you seeing instinctively? | ||
| How great a fear is there, do you think, that elements within the regime, how successful do you think they might be? | ||
| What do you see? | ||
| How alarmed are you, is what I'm trying to ask, with what you're seeing as you're going through these voter rolls, that this election, that the people involved in stealing 2020 will try to steal 2024? | ||
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Well, first of all, I actually started Fight Voter Fraud in 2018. | |
| Because I had run for state rep here in Middletown, Connecticut, and I uncovered so much fraud, but I couldn't get any help from the chief state's attorney's office or even the feds at that time. | ||
| So that's how it started. | ||
| But this hasn't just started to happen. | ||
| I would say at least back to 2008. | ||
| is that a lot of the fraudulent stuff has been going on. | ||
| And again, for 2020, our eyes were finally opened and we knew all the stuff that was happening, | ||
| but how to stop it was the problem. | ||
| Linda, the fact that, congratulations for being on this issue for so long, | ||
| as far as back as 2018. | ||
| So you do have a frame of reference, then. | ||
| You can actually say, I was looking at these things, studying voter fraud in 2018. | ||
| This is two years before 2020. | ||
| This is now 2024. | ||
| And what I see now is greater than it was in 2018, or it was less than it was in 2018. | ||
| Where are you? | ||
| You can actually come and give us a sort of a relative I think they should be very afraid, but as long as we're standing up and letting people know that, you know, if you double vote, we're going to get you. | ||
| see now compared to 2018? | ||
| Should people be afraid and how afraid should they be? | ||
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I think they should be very afraid, but as long as we're standing up and letting people | |
| know that, you know, if you double vote, we're going to get you. | ||
| And that's a felony, by the way. | ||
| Like I said, there's multiple things that you can do. | ||
| You know the people on your street. | ||
| You know who moved. | ||
| Check out the voter registration. | ||
| Are they still registered? | ||
| Challenge the voters. | ||
| I know it's within the 90 days, but you can still, in some states, put up a little bit of a fight over the fact that you knew this person had died eight years ago. | ||
| Why are they an active voter? | ||
| Why did you send them an absentee ballot request form? | ||
| Linda Sinkiewicz, Chief Executive Officer and founder of Fight Vote Support. | ||
| Thanks for joining the show. | ||
| Once again, very quickly, 20 seconds, could you just repeat your contacts on social media? | ||
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Sure it's fightvoterfraud.org that's dot o-r-g um and you can go to you can send me an email linda l-i-n-d-a at fightvoterfraud.org but we'd really like you to go to the website. | |
| Here's your host Stephen K Band. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
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| So we now have Jenny Beth Martin on the show and now I'm For those of you that basically came into the America First movement, Jenny Beth was one of the leading rights of the Tea Party movement, sort of from 2008, perhaps a little bit before, onwards. | ||
| And I was a great fan of hers from a distance, watching what she was doing with Tea Party patriots. | ||
| Jenny Beth is a particular honor for me this morning to welcome you onto the show. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
| Good morning and thank you so much. | ||
| I really appreciate that. | ||
| Thanks for having me as well. | ||
| Thanks for coming on the show, J.D.F. | ||
| So look, you're down there in Georgia. | ||
| What have you got? | ||
| What developments do you have that you've been working on recently for The War in Posse today? | ||
| Well, the state election board in Georgia made rule changes last week, and there are some that are in the rulemaking process that will come up again in their next meeting, which is on August the 19th, next Monday or Tuesday. | ||
| And one of the changes that they have made is that they've changed the way that certification works in Georgia just slightly so that if you're on a state election board, or I'm sorry, on a county election board, and you have concerns about what is going on in your county, you are able to address some of those concerns before you vote to certify. | ||
| This becomes extremely important. | ||
| Back in 2022, and the left and the liberals and MSNBC and others are complaining about these changes, and they don't like the changes. | ||
| But this is really important to understand. | ||
| Back in 2022, in the primary in Georgia, In DeKalb County, Georgia, which is a very, very Democrat-leaning county, in the Democratic primary for county commissioner, there were several people on the ballot, and a lady came in third place in the results in the primary. | ||
| And whoever won this primary was ultimately going to go on and become or go to a runoff and then go on to become the county commissioner because it's a Democrat county. | ||
| A Republican just really doesn't stand a chance there to win. | ||
| So this person came in third and she noticed that in her own precinct she got zero votes. | ||
| And she knew that was wrong because she voted for herself and her husband voted for her. | ||
| So she knew she had one for sure because she saw her ballot and she believed her husband. | ||
| So unless he was lying to her for some crazy reason, she should have had two votes for herself out of her own precinct at a bare minimum. | ||
| But it said she had zero. | ||
| She brought the attention to the local election board. | ||
| They looked through it and they realized that something just didn't seem right. | ||
| and they ran the ballots through the counting machine again, and they got the exact same results. | ||
| And they still thought something was wrong. | ||
| So they wound up hand counting every ballot for her particular race. | ||
| In the end, she actually came in first, not third. | ||
| She went on to a runoff and she is now a sitting county commissioner. | ||
| Now here's where the rule change makes a real difference. | ||
| The people who had to vote to certify that election, the county election board, were not 100% positive that all the rest of the races on the ballot with her race were correct. | ||
| They couldn't be 100% certain, and they had to trust the machine count, which they knew had already created a problem. | ||
| But they were advised by their attorney that they had no choice but to vote to certify the election. | ||
| If they don't actually have 100% confidence that what is happening is correct, and they have evidence to back up their concerns for it, they should be able to take a step back and make sure it is correct before they certify. | ||
| Once it's certified, you're in the hands of the court system, and we saw that did not work at all in 2020. | ||
| And that was for a Democrat race. | ||
| So while the left and MSNBC is complaining about all of this, those races on the Democrat side in a county that is primarily a Democratic county, it matters in their primary who—you've got to be able to trust the outcome. | ||
| You have to be able to trust the outcome regardless of whether a Republican wins or a Democrat wins. | ||
| Otherwise, we have no faith in our system and our country. | ||
| In America, it's supposed to be up to us through the consent of the people who will govern us. | ||
| But if we can't trust that the system that is counting those votes is accurate, how can we be certain that the people who are governing us actually have our consent? | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Jenny Beth, tell me something, right, because these changes that came through the Georgia state election board, you support these changes. | ||
| Now a lot of people on the wall and following the show would have a great deal of suspicion | ||
| when it comes to the GOP leadership in the state of Georgia. | ||
| Governor Brian Kemp or Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger, won't need any introduction, | ||
| but they won't be on the top of many of our followers' Christmas card lists. | ||
| How did you, you're obviously one of the original activists in this movement. | ||
| How did it happen that these changes came about in a state that hasn't really been that welcoming to the America First Trump movement? | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| Georgia is controlled by Republicans at the state level, though we have two Democrat senators right now. | ||
| You have to take a step back and look at each issue individually, because with any politician, there are going to be some things you agree on, some things you don't agree on. | ||
| But these people who are on the state election board, there are people who are appointed by each political party, there are people who are appointed by the governor, and there are people who are appointed by the Speaker of the House. | ||
| And recently, one of the members, the one who was appointed by the Speaker of the House, the Federalist reported that there seemed to be some possible issues with that particular member because he apparently is peed by Fulton County to lobby for Fulton County, Georgia. | ||
| And he finally resigned, which was a good thing. | ||
| And the new person who was appointed to fill that position has sort of shifted the vote right now on the board. | ||
| But the board is a strong board. | ||
| They're looking at things, they're looking at it objectively, | ||
| and they're looking at what's going to be fair for both parties, | ||
| and what's going to be fair most importantly for the voters of Georgia. | ||
| And so the board has recently shifted because of that one particular person. | ||
| There's also a new chairman of the board. | ||
| The chairman was, I believe, appointed by the governor. | ||
| And he... | ||
| I don't know him, but I don't think he's voting the way I would like him to vote. | ||
| I know he's not voting the way I would like him to vote. | ||
| But you've got three solid members on the board, and it's very important that the rules that they pass, that we are comfortable with those same rules, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat who's in charge of the state, that we can deal with those rules. | ||
| And that's what I think is happening with this board. | ||
| And that's good. | ||
| One of the upcoming rules that's going through the rulemaking process that I think is very important, regardless of which side of the aisle you're on, is that before you close down a voting precinct, the people in the precinct have to count the number of ballots that were scanned and the total number of ballots that were scanned. | ||
| That total number of ballots should match the counter that tells how many were scanned, and that should match the number of ballots that were issued when voters checked in to vote. | ||
| All three of those numbers should match, and they should reconcile before they leave the precinct to take the ballots and the SD cards and everything else up to the county to be put into the final totals. | ||
| It's a common sense step that makes sense. | ||
| You should make sure those things reconcile before you leave the precinct, and if they don't, try to figure out what went wrong, or at least you know that particular precinct does indeed have an issue. | ||
| Ginny, hold on for one moment. | ||
| We're just going to have a two-minute video for you, and then we'll come back. | ||
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The Georgia statute defines the cannabis process and certification very specifically in law. | |
| You make sure that every valid vote was tabulated and is included in those vote totals. | ||
| And the law describes exactly where you need to look, what you need to look for, and how you do that process. | ||
| And it also describes that by five o'clock on the Monday after the election, Counties must certify those elections. | ||
| The law says they shall certify. | ||
| That means it is a mandatory process. | ||
| They have no discretion in it. | ||
| So entering into the rules as a phrase like reasonable inquiry creates uncertainty. | ||
| And that appears to me to be The whole purpose of it. | ||
| We write about state election boards, secretaries of state, attorneys general, local prosecutors should in advance of the election explicitly tell county officials that they do not have discretion to refuse to certify the election, warn them in advance that they may be treading into essentially criminal law territory if they do this. | ||
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We've seen that happen in a couple of states already. | |
| That's right. | ||
| In Michigan, the Secretary of State and other officials have been very clear that the law provides for legitimate ways to challenge elections if there are questions about fraud or questions about the count. | ||
| County certification is not one of those ways. | ||
| It is essentially a ministerial process. | ||
| It's not a way to challenge results. | ||
| And in Michigan, officials have told these county officials, you can't do this. | ||
| And if you do, there will be consequences. | ||
| And I think that that both potentially could deter some of these people from trying this. | ||
| And it also puts them on notice so that if they do try to disrupt the election and they are prosecuted or they are challenged civilly, they won't be able to say they didn't realize they couldn't do this. | ||
| So that's something that we'd like to see in all of these states. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| I think that's pretty much confirming everything that we've been discussing for the last 45 minutes on the show. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
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We'll be back with Jenny Beth Martin and Mike Davies after the break. | |
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| Okay, back with the program. | ||
| Mike Davis and Jenny Beth Martin are here. | ||
| The first thing I'd like to do, because the video clip we had just before the break I think sets up the issues here, to come back to the Tina Peter's conviction that we discussed at the top of the show here. | ||
| These issues, the election fighting, election integrity isn't a theoretical issue. | ||
| It has consequences. | ||
| Mike Davis, just quickly for your reaction on this and then we'll move on. | ||
| But the fact that some of these charges can carry up to 22 years In prison. | ||
| It's a serious thing. | ||
| And Tina Peters, she alluded to herself. | ||
| She's not 70. | ||
| She's not quite 70 yet. | ||
| But this is a substantial knock for a person of any age to have to deal with. | ||
| Do you have, from your legal perspective, do you have any first takes on this and what | ||
| the system is trying to do to election, county election officials that are trying to guarantee | ||
| an honest, fair election for 2024? | ||
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| Sorry about that. | ||
| No audio. | ||
| We'll try it again. | ||
| Sorry about that, guys. | ||
| I was going to say this. | ||
| The prosecution of Mesa County Colorado recorder Tina Peters is a disgrace. | ||
| She was looking at the election results after the election. | ||
| She was doing an audit after the election. | ||
| She allowed an outside computer expert to get into the system to do an audit. | ||
| And She had the book thrown at her. | ||
| She's going to face many, many years in prison because they're going after her, not because she changed the election results, not because she committed any sort of voter fraud. | ||
| Her so-called crime is she dared to question an election. | ||
| And today's Democrats don't allow you to question elections. | ||
| I live in Colorado. | ||
| I'm an attorney in Colorado. | ||
| I've been a Republican election observer in Colorado, Republican lawyer, | ||
| since we went to all mail ballots out here. | ||
| And I've done it for five election cycles. | ||
| These government officials should encourage people to look at the elections. | ||
| They should encourage these audits. | ||
| They should want people to do this because it will bring confidence to our election system. | ||
| And that's the problem. | ||
| When you're trying to hide what you're doing, when you're trying to throw people in prison for trying to look at an election, to try to perform an audit of an election, That says more about the election than it says about the person who's trying to perform the audit. | ||
| And that's what we're trying to do at the Article 3 project. | ||
| This is the next battle in this Democrat lawfare and election interference. | ||
| They tried to bankrupt Trump. | ||
| They tried to throw him in prison for life. | ||
| They tried to take him off the ballots when the Supreme Court stopped They're trying to destroy the Supreme Court now. | ||
| And oh, by the way, they underfunded Trump's Secret Service detail and almost had his head blown off, right? | ||
| And so the next battle in this lawfare is election integrity. | ||
| And what we're doing at the Article 3 Project is we want to send a very strong signal to these Republican election observers, election officials, election lawyers, judges, that we're going to have your backs when you follow the law and to these Democrat election observers, Election lawyers, election judges, election officials, you better watch yourself. | ||
| If you try to pull shenanigans, if you try to rig and steal this election, we're going to call you out and I don't give a damn if you call me an election denier. | ||
| I've been called worse. | ||
| I've been called a lot worse as well. | ||
| Jenny Beth, you were one of the original founders of the Tea Party movement in America back, what, 2007, 2008. | ||
| Back in the day, did you ever did you ever foresee in your wildest fears of American dystopia that you would, within 15 sort of 20 years, see a Republican Former and future Republican presidents suffer an assassination attempt on live TV. | ||
| Did you ever think you would see election officials, a Republican election official in their late 60s, confronting a 30-year jail imprisonment just for trying, as Mike Davis was saying, trying to ensure voter integrity? | ||
| I didn't anticipate it when it came to elections and election officials, but I did anticipate that people would be imprisoned because the government has been weaponized against them. | ||
| We experienced government weaponization from the IRS and very specific targeting. | ||
| It was not necessarily to try to put us in jail, but it cost a lot of money. | ||
| We had to hire attorneys. | ||
| We had to deal with various comply with all of their paperwork. | ||
| Our donors were audited by the IRS. | ||
| When you're audited by the IRS, it's an extraordinarily scary thing | ||
| because they have the power to seize, the power to garnish, and the power to levy. | ||
| And so it is a very scary situation. | ||
| And I said at the time, if no one who worked for the IRS was held accountable | ||
| and held criminally accountable for what they did, that others in the government | ||
| would do something similar and even worse. | ||
| And that's what we're seeing right now. | ||
| It is even worse. | ||
| I think what's happening with Tina Peters is absolutely wrong. | ||
| And why have county election boards that certify if it's only ministerial? | ||
| Why do you need people to do anything? | ||
| Just automatically certify it. | ||
| They're there to help be a check and balance on the system. | ||
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And we need that to have confidence in our elections. | |
| Jenny Beth, we'll be back in 10 seconds after the break. | ||
| Very quick question. | ||
| Were you audited by a Lois Lerner at the IOS? |
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