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Aug. 8, 2024 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 3817: No Faith In God Breeds Marxism

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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified		Pray for our enemies.
unidentified		Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
unidentified		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified		MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Back in the War Room, Dave Brat sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon.
		Our honor and privilege to have Megan Basham in the house with us today.
		She's written a New York Times bestseller, Shepherds for Sale.
		For those not familiar with the term shepherd, of course, Jesus is the great shepherd, and the pastors in the churches are supposed to be the shepherds who guide and care and love for their sheep.
		Instead, some of the shepherds are being funded by the left.
		I could give several stories I know where people have gotten a million dollar check and all of a sudden the homilies and the sermons and the lessons on immigration have shifted from rule of law and US constitutional beliefs to straight-on open borders, Marxist teachings, etc.
		And so, Megan, you You've tallied up many of these huge foundations that used to affect me in academia as well.
		And those billionaires can put huge pressure on academic institutions.
		And so why don't you name a few of those again and then what is the philosophy?
		What's their underlying worldview and what are they really trying to push at the end of the day and using the churches to do so?
unidentified		Well, I'm glad you brought up academic institutions because this is exactly the same model that we saw there.
		We saw that march through the institutions and now they are coming to the church.
		And that's to be expected because it's a captive audience where people go to learn how to live their lives.
		So to give you just one example, George Soros's Open Society Foundation has been instrumental in backing an evangelical front group called the Evangelical Immigration Table that pushes the very kind of open border policies that you just mentioned.
		For instance, they lobbied against Trump's Remain in Mexico policy, and they wrote a public letter signed by a lot of well-known pastors and ministry leaders to get the Biden administration to end that policy.
		He did.
		We can now see what has happened.
		You could ask the families of people like Lakin Riley what the result of that has been, and you see that on any number of initiatives.
		And their reason for doing that is, one, George Soros has been completely transparent That he wants open borders.
		They want a global rule.
		So they want us answering to the European Union, to the WEF, the same way so many of those European cultures do.
		And part of that is to break down the sovereignty of nations.
		And he has been explicit in that.
		So what they have now done is they have harnessed the power of these pulpits in order to try to get that message out, to get the power of these evangelical leaders in the hopes that it will trickle down to the rank and file in the pews.
		And what I really want to say is that this is not new.
		If you go back to the 1930s, 40s, 50s, You see the Communist Party USA doing the exact same thing with the evangelical mainline institutions that were dominant at the time.
		They would take Christian lingo and Christian jargon to try to suppress that Christian vote, to try to suppress Their influence in the public square, and that's the exact same thing that we see them doing today.
		And part of what they're doing is appealing to pluralism, saying, well, Christians need to not be divisive.
		They need to not culture war, by which they mean you need to not stand for that which is morally good in the civic sphere.
		And when we do that, well, scripture has something to say about that.
		And what it has to say is that if we see what is good, and we see what is right and we refuse to do it,
		then we're in sin.
		So what they're really trying to do is suppress the consciences of evangelical voters and evangelical Christians.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yep, no, that's exactly right.
		I've been reading a book by R. R. Reno called Return of the Strong Gods, and he goes back to the open society and its enemies by Popper and then by Soros.
		And it's fairly stunning, right, that the open society is open to who they want to be open to.
		They're not open to about 7 billion people on this planet who live religious lives.
		Right?
		They're only open to the secular folks, like you say.
		The atheists, they're open to.
		But the religious people, they're absolutely close to Russian culture, China culture, certainly Christians, Jews, Muslims, Confucians, Buddhists, etc.
		And so you're spot on, and it's up to the American people to recognize this.
		That's why these shows on The War Room are so essential.
		What Megan is sharing with you is just pure gold right here.
		And so, Megan, lift up the spirits of the folks.
		Give them some sense of urgency.
		Why is it so important for Christians to vote?
		A lot of young evangelicals sometimes say, well, Jesus didn't do politics and politics is dirty business.
		And so, you know, Christians shouldn't be involved in the political sphere.
		What does God and the Bible and what do you have to say in response to get our energy level up?
unidentified		Well, what I would have to say is that you have to notice the little trick there.
		And what they're doing is taking biblical imperatives and moral issues and they're trying to tarnish them by saying, oh, that's a political issue.
		Whether we destroy the bodies of young children with gender indoctrination and mutilation That is a moral issue and we can be certain that Jesus would have something to say about that.
		And what we know is that we are commanded to rescue those being led away to death.
		And we live in a representative republic where our vote is one way we can do that.
		So I would say if you are refusing to participate in that system, to use your vote and your voice and the power that is
		invested in you in this democratic republic, then you are failing to rescue those being led away to
		death. You are failing to protect the innocent. And I do believe that you'll be held to account
		for that.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I agree with you. And so does God and the Hebrew scripture and the Holy Bible and
		every other faith tradition, even our great predecessors, the Greeks, just by human reason,
		in.
		Talked about the afterlife, and they knew there had to be judgment in the afterlife, right?
		Socrates and Plato and Aristotle all reached similar conclusions just by reason alone.
		And then we, you know, were treated to, you know, special revelation in our tradition.
		And speaking of traditions, the left also plays a little trick.
		I like the word you just use with the trick.
		The left plays a trick, you know, they're against Christianity.
		They say there's this wall of separation, which of course there is not.
		And all of our founders wrote, and the Christians, if anything, they're guilty of being too tolerant of the Marxist position over time.
		But the left can never name their worldview, or philosophy, or theology, and we got nothing to debate.
		They just say, we're for this secular thing.
		Right?
		And so I'm just interested in your comments, right?
		If the New York Times is writing or the Washington Post or the Atlantic, they'll talk about the term good, but that's precisely the question of the entire Judeo-Christian West.
		What is it to be good?
		Right?
		I used to teach Alistair McIntyre, Aristotelian guy, and he gave a great story on the Greeks, right?
		And there's a famous phrase, you know, the Greek king, good though you are, right?
		This was in the, with Brad Pitt in the Iliad, I think.
		Good king though you are, Don't rape that slave girl, Briseis.
unidentified		Right?
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		And so, good in the Greek tradition meant you're the king, you're good, period, no matter what you do.
unidentified		Right?
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Even if you rape the slave girl, Briseis, you're still morally good.
		People don't understand.
		There are very different debates on what human goodness entails.
		We certainly reject that view.
		And so, what do you make of this trick the left plays, talking about, well, we're secular, when secular has no meaning?
unidentified		Right.
		And you know, I think what you have to look at is the fact that it is a very postmodern ideal where they have no fixed, uh, understanding of what moral good is other than what allows them to seize more power.
		And if they're telling us, okay, here's the best way to live your life.
		And it is this Marxist collective idea of what is good.
		But of course that never works out in the real life because as Paul Kenger says, uh, Communism is where socialists go to heaven.
		It never actually works on the physical plane.
		And that's what we see with these guys is that they don't want to engage with how these
		policies ultimately impact people because they know that while it gives them power,
		it's incredibly destructive to the vast majority of the human population.
		So when we look at that, I always want to just let people know that what they're doing
		is they're stealing your language and they're smuggling in this ideology under jargon like
		with immigration.
		They will say, welcome the stranger or love your neighbor.
		But what they fail to say is how incredibly damaging it is to your citizen neighbor to
		have their housing prices driven up, to have their.
		Gas prices go up to have crime in their streets and sex trafficking on their border.
		So these things are incredibly destructive things, but it's really about a will to power with the left.
		It is not about a transcendent moral good.
		And if it was, you would not have all of these secularists who, by the way, do not believe in the God of the Bible.
		They do not believe in Jesus Christ.
		They do not believe in the Judeo-Christian tradition.
		What they are doing is taking it And trying to smuggle their ideology into it in this sort of syncretistic merging.
		And that's what they're doing.
		Because they do not believe in these things.
		They're atheists.
		Sometimes they are Eastern mystics.
		But they don't actually believe in what these churches and Christian institutions teach.
		They are just infiltrating them to use them for their purposes.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, very well said.
		It's interesting, the Marxists, right, and the Neo-Marxists, we've been pointing out on this show, this sexual mutilation of children or whatever, the Marxists wouldn't even think about doing that to their own people, right, in Russia and China.
		They save that for the traditions they want to destroy.
		So when you see those teachings surfacing over here, you know you've got a real problem on your hands.
		And Marxism, right, We used to, you know, too many CEOs and whatever, they say, well, that's cute, you know, my kids go off to these elite schools and they learn this Marxist stuff, and isn't that cute?
		Now it's not so cute anymore, and we're learning what Marxism really is, right?
		Materialism, no belief in God.
		But for the secular folks listening out there, you may be concerned with a few of these other issues if you're not religious.
		Marxism also rejects human rights.
		Human rights do not have any existence on their own.
		Matter in motion, it's a bunch of molecules.
		There's no such thing as rights that are out there.
		Civil rights, minority rights, women's rights, none of those exist.
		And in Marxist societies, you clearly see that play out.
		And so going back to your book again, Megan, how in the world these shepherds are clergy?
		Shepherds for sale.
		Just going back to your title, it's so brilliant and so powerful.
		What is going on?
		Who is being bought off?
		And who are these people in these weaker strands of these religious traditions that are being bought and paid for?
		That's evidence of moral culpability right there.
unidentified		Yeah, so I already mentioned the evangelical immigration table and some of the once trusted organizations that these leftists are now wearing like a skin suit, you could say, because people may not be aware of how they've been compromised are groups like the National Association of Evangelicals.
		Which represents some 45,000 churches in dozens of different denominations.
		Wow.
		It was once so conservative that Ronald Reagan gave his 1983 evil empire speech at its national convention.
		But now they are completely sold out to a leftist agenda.
		They are partnering with groups like the evangelical immigration table that is pushing open borders that has been funded by George Soros.
		and other left wing groups. You also see this with the Council for Christian Colleges and
		Universities. I'm told that it has a newly minted president who is hopefully set on reform.
		But what I can tell you is in recent years, they have done everything they can to destroy
		religious liberty on the question of protecting churches and ministries who want to adhere to
		biblical morality on questions of sex, gender and marriage.
		And so you have other groups like A Christianity Today, which I mentioned,
		which has been sold out now. It's taking money, millions from a left wing foundation.
		Its editor in chief, Russell Moore, is one who helped create this curriculum with.
		New York Times writer David French, who though he claims to be a conservative, just announced in the last couple of days he will be voting for Kamala Harris.
		So these are the people that are taking money from left-wing foundations to promote their ideology into once-trusted evangelical institutions and ministries with the hopes that the people sitting in the pews who only know the name won't trust this, won't realize what's going on and they'll be taken in.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Megan Basham, Shepherds for Sale.
		Everybody go read it.
		Thank you for being on with us today.
		Just a clarion call.
		Most Christians just want to live simple lives, go to work, take care of their family, be honest, worship God, and they're being duped by Shepherds for Sale.
		A true American tragedy.
		Let's fix it.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Dave Brat back in the war room with great Stephen K. Bannon.
		Honored, privileged to welcome one of my long-standing friends.
		He goes way back.
		James Golden, otherwise known as Bo Snurdley, the producer of the Rush Limbaugh show.
		But this gentleman has such great breadth and width and wisdom.
		And I just love hearing from him, but we've been talking for years.
		He's doing great work down in Florida and across the country on education reform.
		And I shared with him the other day that link from the, I think it was the Illinois Policy Institute on the Chicago reading scores.
		12% of the poor kids in Chicago can read at grade level in the third and fourth grades.
		And so, James, great to have you in the War Room.
		One of the great producers, in case people don't know, James produced one of the greatest shows in the history of media.
		And so honored to have you on.
		And why don't you share what you think about these education issues that are plaguing our cities and our kids and what you're doing about it.
		Welcome, James.
unidentified		Well, thank you, Dave.
		You know what?
		It's really amazing to me that we heard just a week ago, about a week ago, we heard the Black Journalist Association, of course, with Donald Trump in Chicago, another city where education has been failing for decades.
		And not once did any of these hosts that were there bring up the failure of American education.
		Right in their own city.
		But you look at what Baltimore just did earlier in the year.
		It was announced that over 90% of the kids that are coming through Baltimore schools are failing when it comes to understanding math, understanding reading.
		These are basics.
		What are the schools focused on in these blue cities?
		They're focused on whether you can use the right pronouns or not, whether you have the right to become or say whatever gender you are.
		The basics, the very basics that will allow these kids to grow up and to be functional.
		In their own lives, and as American citizens, the fundamental task of educating children to prepare them for adulthood is being failed in almost every single blue city across America.
		In New York City, there are chronically over 200 failing schools.
		This goes back, regardless of which administration is in power, It is systemic.
		It goes back.
		And so, we as a society sit back, we wonder, how come so many of these kids coming from the inner cities end up in jail?
		The left is fond of talking about this pipeline that's created from schools to the jail.
		Well, they're created from failing schools into jails.
		They're created when entire generations of children grow up without the fundamental ability to hold a job, because they don't understand the basic skills that it takes to hold a job.
		How to read, how to write, how to speak English in a way that they can be understood.
		This is, to me, the biggest civil rights struggle in America, and it is one which the Democrat Party is absent from the table.
		So, what has to happen?
		I'm very involved in alternative education.
		Charter schools, yes.
		A for-profit charter schools, yes, where there is incentive for the schools to perform and to teach based on the fact that they are responsible to the parents and the parents are paying them money so that they can demand results from these schools instead of this idea of government schools.
		So what are we seeing in the presidential, Dave?
		And I'm sorry to just continue, but you asked me.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		No, keep going.
		That's what I want to know.
		What's the incentives?
		What's the incentives, right?
unidentified		What are the incentives if you're going for the Democrats in this election cycle?
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		Kamala Harris has already signed on with the teachers unions.
		The teachers unions are running on the idea that they don't want to give parents a choice in educating their own children.
		This is an issue For many people, it is not as important as the economic issue in our country.
		It is not as important as open borders.
		To my way of thinking, Dave, this has to be equal to the issues that are facing America.
		And we're not going to solve this in one election cycle.
		It's not going to be solved in two election cycles.
		But there has to be a sustained effort For us conservatives not to abandon education in American cities.
		Because if we do, we are making sure that we will continue down this path of destruction that we've been on for the last 20, 30, 40 years.
		This is an issue that conservatives have to take on.
		And we have to take it on in American cities.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yep, well said, James.
		And so just to get to the obvious at the end of that, do you see any movement in Virginia?
		Youngkin ran for governor due to outrage up in Loudoun County over some of the sexual predatory actions taken on our kids in Virginia.
		Are you seeing any of those trends?
		I mean, the people can take charge.
		It's very hard, right?
		People can vote out terrible school boards.
		Yep.
unidentified		Go ahead.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Fire away.
unidentified		This kid that that whole case sparked from.
		had sexually abused two girls.
		Do you know that he has been released?
		He's not even in being held accountable in the penal system.
		He's been released.
		And this is exactly even in Virginia where there is such a this is where the anti where the anti liberal backlash actually started because the father was dragged out of a school board meeting and and really almost treated like a criminal for trying to defend his daughter that was raped.
		By a transgendered male or female, whichever one it is, it's insane.
		So yeah, but this is spreading.
		So what we have to do, Dave, again, is very, very clear.
		The Republican Party has to be unafraid to stand tall for the idea that parents, no matter where they are in America, have the absolute right to choose where their kids are educated.
		Period.
		And how we support these parents, whether it be through the use of vouchers, whether it be through any other policy that would allow parents to have that choice, this is something that conservative America has to get behind if we want our country to be fundamentally strong.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yep, James, I just wanted to bring you on because, you know, I always treat this stuff from an economic standpoint and human capital and the kids are one-third of the economy.
		They are the future economy.
		And the old liberals, you used to be able to count on the old liberals to care about kids.
		and about foreign policy and about censorship, right? The old liberals are gone and now we got
		these crazy far-left Marxists. And so I just wanted to bring the issue up again. There's
		nobody better. You spent your second half, right, the second half of your great life working on
		behalf of the kids now. So how do people reach out to you and contact you and support you? Yep, go
unidentified		Well, you know what, Dave?
		I'm on the air six days a week on WABC in New York, so I'm still doing radio as a career show is going great.
		But what people can do, I'm involved with a few things.
		New Journey PAC is one.
		I have a political action committee that advocates for this.
		Newjourneypac.org is one.
		But I'm also, you know, people have to organize.
		You know, we used to laugh at the Democrats, I think.
		I think you remember the years we call Obama organizer-in-chief, people laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh.
		But if you look at how the Democrats have put a stranglehold on American education, it is through their organizational.
		Because people do have to do this.
		They have to band together.
		This is not something the government can fix.
		This has to be fixed by individuals banding together and not only demanding change, but holding people accountable when they don't change.
		And I'll say this, too.
		The work that you do at Liberty is also so important.
		I've been there.
		I've seen it.
		You see students from every background.
		Black, white, Asian, whatever.
		Every background.
		In America, attending there and these kids that are coming through there are not only being educated well, they also have a moral foundation, a moral component to it.
		And do we ever need that?
		And you've done incredible work there and you're continuing to do it.
		And that is part of the solution, Dave.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Well, I look forward to continuing to work with you, James.
		Thanks for coming on The War Room.
		You've been a blessing to our country.
		Keep up the great work and I hope to see you soon.
		God bless you.
unidentified		My friend, Dave.
		Thank you so much, man.
		I love you.
		Thank you so much, Dave.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Love you back.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Love you back.
unidentified		All right.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		James Golden.
		Look him up.
		He's doing great work down in Florida and across the country.
		I'm glad he gave a shout out to Liberty there.
		He's come up and spent time with our students.
		And, you know, I was dean of the business school for four years.
		And in that time, you know, the left always mocks us, the Christians, they mock the conservatives, they mock whatever.
		I never heard one racist, sexist, nasty remark.
		Instead, our kids, they got the good book open in the morning, they're journaling, they're reading, they love their neighbor as theirself.
		And so, James, you know, just giving a great shout out to Liberty University.
		Very proud of our students here.
		We got Peter Makovina coming up right after this break, but I want to give a shout out again to Birch Gold.
		I got a PhD in economics and I'm having a hard time following this roller coaster of the stock market.
		I care more about the real economy.
		Right, but this instability in this crazy world we're living in, gold has always been
		a good hedge.
		So please look up our friends at Birch Gold and use the ban and discount.
		Call them up.
		They have people that will talk to you, right?
		We don't give financial advice on the war room, but we have good friends at Birch Gold
		and they will help you to decide where gold fits in your portfolio.
		It should probably be in there given the headlines we're all reading over the last week.
		Gold is particularly important at this point in time.
		So Birch Gold, they're also listed on our website at the war room.
		So please look them up there as well.
		I also want to give, James said we work together as groups.
		Let me give a shout out to a few of our groups that we work with.
		Freedomchamber.net works with the Job Creators Network.
		Freedom Square.
		Red Balloon.
		These are all great folks who share your values.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Back in the war room, Dave Brat sitting in with the great Stephen K. Bannon.
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		We have Aaron Czar with us with a firm called Silent.
		You've seen the ads for the Faraday bags.
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		This new world crowd strike, we saw the security issues that brought me to a standstill on an airplane, brought down half the eastern seaboard.
		But more relevant is just your personal security.
		Your phone is your anchor, right?
		Unfortunately, it is the way we communicate and move through the world on a daily basis.
		And so Aaron, welcome to the War Room and why don't you just lead us through the product and the need for the product and we'll just have a short conversation because I find this fascinating and I want to get a Faraday bag myself.
unidentified		Yeah, we gotta get you equipped, not a problem.
		So yeah, Faraday cages, Faraday bags, they have been around for a long time.
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		You could really own your own destiny, as sometimes I like to say, because, you know, we're walking around in the world just being harvested.
		It's a direct threat to our First and Fourth Amendment.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Go over that, Aaron, go over that a little bit, because some of the folks aren't techies like you.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		This harvested idea, what does that mean?
unidentified		Well, I mean, Eric Prince said it on an interview recently, but, you know, there's people walking around and I'm not calling, you know, everyone sheep, but there's a way to live where you're a bit more agile and you're a little bit more aware of reality as being plugged into big data.
		It's nearly impossible to escape.
		So that's, you know, Google, Apple, Microsoft, the big boys.
		And the internet service providers, you know, they're, they're, they're big too.
		So it's essentially anything you do in life from a smartphone, you are being like, an entire profile is built on you.
		And the amount of data that any individual has is like astonishing.
		It's really scary.
		And some people say, well, I got nothing to hide.
		Why do I care about that?
		And those are the naysayers that understand that if they're a contributing member to society and they have a place in this country, then they have their own duty to protect that data and kind of curb it and do anything they can.
		A Faraday bag is just a really simple tool to curb a very technical, overcomplicated world that we live in.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, give us an example of that profile.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		When they build a profile on you, what kind of information can they vacuum up that people might not be aware of?
unidentified		I mean, for one example, like data brokers, if I wanted to put a geofence around your entire office
		or neighborhood, wherever you're at, I could collect all, I could buy all the data
		for every single phone that went there and I could get a full profile of every single person,
		all their information, and even like, are they approachable?
		You know, what's their Enneagram?
		Like, you know, full psychological understanding.
		So, you know, there are bad actors in the world and we're all kind of targets, some more than others.
		So if you're not doing anything about it, then it's time to think about doing something about it.
		While everyone can't afford and have access to, like, a crazy encrypted phone, which is pretty cumbersome, to be honest, having a Faraday bag, like the one I showed before, allows you to drop inside your devices, whether it's a phone or a laptop and a tablet, your keys to your car.
		There's big car theft through relay attacks.
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		It's an epidemic.
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dave brat ▲ ● ▼		All right, Aaron Czar, thanks for being with us.
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		Well said.
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		All right, War Room, we're going to go to Peter McIlvenna in Europe right now.
		Kind of a mix, we're having a fun conversation over the break, who's leading who.
		We kind of reached consensus that Europe is leading the day, going in the wrong direction, but we're not far behind, and we're beating them in a few categories.
		So Peter, bring us up to speed, what's happening in the UK, and what should we be on the lookout for?
		In terms of all the issues you're dealing with, censorship, being beat down by the deep states, etc.
		Glad to have you on, Peter.
peter mcilvenna ▲ ● ▼		Oscar, great to be here.
		Let me fill you in.
		But let me just first say, this is what I love about War Room.
		Being on with different guests shows what Steve has built up.
		And even just today, I've already ordered Shepherds for sale.
		I'm looking into that.
		And I've got two Farty bags, so it's essential.
		So I love what War Room always brings.
		There never is a dull episode.
		But let me tell you what's happening in the UK.
		We've had these riots that have kicked off from last Monday.
		And it was on Monday with Jason discussing it.
		And it's got much worse in the government clamping down.
		And the government, of course, never need an excuse to clamp down on our freedoms, to restrict us further.
		And they are using this to restrict us.
		I think we had 500 individuals now arrested for these demonstrations, with about 50 of them charged.
		Now, that's in two days.
		Now, our British legal system is currently running at five to six months.
		to process anything. So if a rapist or a murderer, the individual who murdered three girls that
		sparked off a lot of this unrest last week, Monday last week, it's a five month until he actually
		goes for his trial. But yet our courts in two days can get people sentenced for naughty things on
		We have the rising concern of the UK government, same as what's happened in Europe, and you obviously will have exactly the same in the US, trying to clamp down on conversations.
		A huge fear on Telegram, of Signal, real concern obviously on Twitter.
		And you see Elon Musk has really gone head to head with Keir Starmer, who's the new British Prime Minister, far-left Prime Minister.
		And Elon has gone toe-to-toe with him, highlighting what's happening.
		And when we had a government minister, the head of public prosecutions in the UK, one of the key legal individuals in the UK, and he said that if you repost something on Twitter, you could be breaking the law and may be arrested for that because you're spreading hate.
		And what does Elon do?
		Elon just starts reposting tons of videos and it's like, bring it on.
		And I love that attitude, but we are in a massive clash.
		We had an individual, it's happening nonstop, but we had an individual and he was arrested and charged for 28 months.
		For gesticulating and shouting at a police officer.
		Now, I am gesticulating, using my hands as an expression.
		And if I raise my voice, it could be shouting.
		But two and a half years in jail for gesticulating and shouting.
		That's where we currently are.
		And of course, there's no legislation that says our government can do this.
		But they are using carefully worded terrorism legislation, because they say this is terror, and carefully worded legislation on restricting the spread of misinformation, is obviously the term we all know well, and they are using this to clamp down.
		So it's really concerning, and it is an attack on citizen journalism and free speech online, and of course siding with the mainstream media and our legacy media.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Peter, that story resonates with us over here in the War Room.
		Without getting too detailed, you know, in the United States, we've had Mike Benz on
		and we've had legislation, we've changed the actual definitions for democracy instead of
		we the people here in law to the processes and institutions so that DHS and some of our
		executive branch entities can use these changes in laws.
		We changed tweets.
		We made tweets into cyber events and cyber events are regulated by DHS.
		And so we've had people arrested and hundreds of millions without exaggerating, hundreds
		of millions of tweets censored underneath that legislation brought to us by our executive
		branch.
		How does it work in the UK?
		Is it is it you know, we have the Constitution here.
		And so, you know, that's our we all think in terms of that structure.
		In the UK, how do we think about that just in brief?
		And then, you know, if it's similar to other, you know, the Netherlands, others we know
		are under similar attack.
		Just sketch that out for us briefly so we can understand that.
peter mcilvenna ▲ ● ▼		Well, we don't have the free speech protections that you have afforded in your constitution.
		We don't have that.
		So we are all at sea with zero protection for what we say in the UK and generally for most European countries.
		So that's where we are moving.
		And I mentioned the individual charged for two and a half years for waving his arms around and shouting.
		Yet we have a Labour politician calling for those on the right to have their throats slit and killed.
		No problem with that.
		You can say that on a microphone and yet there's no rush to arrest.
		So we are having massive clampdown as we're having across Europe.
		And this is our online safety bill, which is a piece of legislation that was put in late last year.
		We don't know how that is going to actually be policed, but that is policing the Internet on a level that we haven't known since the start.
		of the internet and the definition that the levels of that can be used for the bar set
		so low.
		So it is anything that anyone may find offensive.
		And it's anything.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Peter.
		Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna jump to break.
		Peter McIlvana back with us after the break.
		And we want to know who's pushing this side, the globalists.
		Who is this?
		Who are the globalists?
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Back in the war room, Dave Brat sitting in with a great Stephen K.
		Bannon, our guest Peter McIlvana representing all of Europe single handedly.
		Peter, thanks for being with us.
		He's been giving us an overview of some of the, you know, two-tiered Justice Department problems we got in the U.S., giving the receipts, giving examples, similarities in other European countries.
		We were talking offline a little bit, you know, I've been over there a couple times and the English people are such a decent people.
		The cabbies will scold you if you misbehave.
		And I just believe there's got to be a deep reservoir of decency over there.
		The Judeo-Christian tradition isn't alive and vibrant, but I think it's deep within the English and British people.
		And so, you know, are they being passive?
		And then who's running this show?
		Who's behind this?
		In the U.S., we have billionaire forces, globalist forces that just want control and power.
		Is that similar in the U.K.?
		Or is it different?
		Peter.
peter mcilvenna ▲ ● ▼		Well, obviously, a lot of our political figures are linked into the WF.
		Obviously, Tony Blair is a key figure in that globalist agenda.
		And all of our prime ministers have bought into that.
		So you have that on one side.
		You'd mentioned the normal, everyday people.
		And they're angry, but they're told, shut up or you'll be called racist.
		And that was a phrase that basically was used in the Brexit debate.
		and the Brexit referendum, that if you vote for Brexit you're a xenophobe and a racist
		and you hate other people from other nations.
		And that, we all know that term, racist, is enough to shut many people down because obviously
		people are aghast at being labelled such a horrendous tag.
		So that does shut down.
		But actually what we are seeing, we're seeing that the government are using this as a way of locking many people up and they have been agitating to lock many on the right.
		A lot of it was kicked off with Tommy Robinson had a big rally in central London at the end of last month, and there were between 50,000 and 100,000 people there, all just wanting our country back.
		And that seems to have spurred the government into preparing.
		So whether this is a false flag or not, I can't say.
		But I can say the government are using this to jail people and to demand access to people's social media accounts.
		To make sure people are rounded up through what they do outside and also what they say online.
		And anything which you now say online can be used as an excuse by the government to come knock your door down, arrest you and jail you for years at a time.
		So the government are playing this well to their agenda which is to shut down any criticism of mass immigration and the destruction of our country.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm just fascinated with the moral piece there, right?
		So Brexit, you're called a racist.
		That's obviously a strong moral charge.
		And so I think it does illustrate there's a strong moral reserve sitting there in the British people, right?
		There's a moral charge being made.
		People care about that.
		They don't want to be considered immoral or unethical or unspiritual or whatever it is.
		So where's the breakdown?
		Why does morality just work in one direction?
		What about, you know, don't bear false witness, don't lie, don't cheat, don't steal, like they're doing on the government side?
		Where's that British spine and what's missing here?
peter mcilvenna ▲ ● ▼		Well, it is a concerted effort that has chipped away at that, and I was with a church leader today of a large church here in the UK, and he was sharing some concerns I had.
		We were having a frank discussion, and we were discussing the lack of leadership in the church.
		Were the church to speak into this and raise the concerns of everyday people?
		Where are Christian politicians speaking into this?
		Where are the media?
		Oh, the media are on the side of the government, and we learned that through the COVID tyranny.
		That the media have become a mouthpiece for the state.
		So yesterday or maybe this morning, the front page of at least five newspapers was more or less the same photo and the same statement, which was, we are defeating the far right.
		That was from five different newspapers, some on the left, some on the right.
		So they are speaking with one voice.
		It is the government's voice, and it is the voice that has to shut people up.
		And people, as we saw during COVID, they want to make a living.
		And if the police tell you, if you do this, we will throw you in jail for three years.
		That is enough to make people question what they are doing.
		And that's a normal reaction.
		And we need strong leadership.
		That's what we're lacking here.
		We have very brave individuals like Tommy Robinson, like Calvin Robinson, who we have on tonight on Hearts Evoke.
		Like Lawrence Fox, like many individuals who are standing up and speaking, but there are many others who are afraid of being tarred by the brush of extremism and far-right and they're silent.
		But what we really need is more leaders to lead the people who are hungry for good solid leaders with a vision for patriotism in our nation once again in the UK.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, very well said, Peter.
		This far-right thing has got to end, right?
		I was a Presbyterian economist for 20 years at a small liberal arts school, run for Congress, and then I get called every name in the book.
		There's not much more boring than a Presbyterian economist, right?
		I mean, that takes a day.
		So my idol, obviously, one of them was Adam Smith, a moral philosopher.
		The other moral philosopher of note is Karl Marx.
		And the world is carved up along the lines of those two moral philosophers.
		So tell your British buddies to read their Adam Smith and get the backbone going again.
		We believe in you guys.
		And we have faith we're all going to get it right together.
		So God bless you, Peter.
		Thanks for being on and look forward to having you on again soon.
peter mcilvenna ▲ ● ▼		Anytime.
peter mcilvenna ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Dave.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, brother.
		All right.
		We're going to Mike Lindell.
		Mike, what word do you have for us today?
		Any words of hope?
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		Leave us with a word of faith today, brother.
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		Ten seconds.
mike lindell ▲ ● ▼		You guys, keep the faith with God.
		All things are possible.
		We get through this, and we're going to look back, and it all had to happen just the way it did.
dave brat ▲ ● ▼		There's the bright side of Minnesota.
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		God bless everyone.

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