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unidentified
We need to push back on this.
There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech and especially around our democracy.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
unidentified
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
Welcome to The War Room.
natalie winters
It's Natalie G. Winters hosting today, Wednesday, August 7th, in the year of our Lord 2024.
We've got a packed show for you full of signal, not noise, whether it's misinformation, dark money, election spending, or Trevor Loudon walking through the Marxist ties of the Harris Walz ticket.
He'll be joining us at the end of the show.
Don't go anywhere.
To start, we're joined by the election supporter for The Federalist, we got Logan.
were with us a few days ago talking about how the center
for tech and civic life to sort of Zuckerberg. Zucker Buck
linked organization. Is revamped sort of rebranded a little bit-
but they're they're working the same way they did in the twenty
twenty election to influence the results of you guessed it
the twenty twenty four election.
There's an interesting corollary to it on the side of cracking
down on misinformation you had a story a few days ago with an
interesting follow up which will get into. Showing that in
Michigan- the secretary of state Jocelyn Benson. Is wanting
neighbors to snitch on each other for those that dare to
what is it snitch on each other Spread election misinformation.
Can you walk us through this wild story?
unidentified
Absolutely.
Well, thanks for having me back on the show.
Yeah, this is a crazy story, and one that I kind of stumbled on because sometimes these officials think that they can get away with things like this.
It was actually posted publicly on the Secretary of State's website that they are encouraging residents to report others for spreading election misinformation.
They actually have a government email address that they encourage individuals to send reports of misinformation to.
This is also kind of part of a new program that she announced toward the end of last month called the Democracy Ambassadors Program.
It's kind of ironic that you'd be asking people to report their neighbors for misinformation in the name of democracy, but that's apparently where we are now.
They've really taken, they as in the state of Michigan, a lot of our officials, they've taken a strong stance against what they call misinformation and we should be concerned about that because when we allow the government to start silencing misinformation, we also allow them to dictate what that is.
And that essentially means they can silence any speech that they disagree with or claim is false.
natalie winters
And from that original document that you drew your reporting from, was there any insight into what constituted misinformation per the Secretary of State's office?
unidentified
Honestly, there was not a ton of insight.
They refer to it as misleading or inaccurate information.
But, you know, that can be subjective.
A lot of times opinions can fall under the guise of that, especially when it comes to the conduct of elections, as we saw in 2020.
They specifically are focusing on so-called misinformation about the election process, voter rights, or an issue on the ballot.
That's really concerning because issues on the ballot are often subject to various opinions.
And so, Yeah, their guidance is not super clear and seems to be pretty subjective.
natalie winters
And do you know if this is being replicated in any other states?
How vast it is in terms of rolling this program out?
unidentified
We have no idea so far what other states this program is happening in, but it seems to be a large nationwide trend of trying to silence election misinformation.
We know that groups like the Center for Tech and Civic Life are instrumental in Um, instructing local election agencies how to combat this supposed election misinformation, um, not just in their communities, but also on social media, and how to use these supposed fact checker groups.
Um, they offer public trainings on their website about things like that.
And so this is very much part of a national, um, trend, a coordinated effort to silence things called misinformation.
And so we should be really keeping an eye on this as this could pick up across the country.
natalie winters
And now walk us forward to, you know, today or yesterday, where you actually saw now Dana Nessel in Michigan, what is it, sending out cease and desist letters, sort of the logical extension of this program, to individuals who were sharing quote-unquote election misinformation.
You can see the picture on screen right now.
unidentified
Absolutely.
This is a really concerning development.
We just sort of stumbled across the call to report misinformation by chance and then a few days later it would come out that the Attorney General Dana Nessel in Michigan is actually sending letters apparently threatening citizens for spreading so-called, they called it misleading or false election information.
It was great reporting on behalf of the Midwesterner and Detroit radio host Justin Barclay.
They're the ones who initially broke the story, and they're great to work with.
But we ended up actually getting in touch with the source ourselves at The Federalist, and she decided to go on the record with us.
So, Carrie Lynn Eliff is a resident near Kalamazoo, and she basically expressed concerns about the locality moving, pulling locations without telling the public, giving them enough time.
But she received this letter from Dana Nessel, the AG here in Michigan, dated July 24th, That essentially said that she should cease and desist spreading this false and misleading information, as they call it.
And basically saying if she doesn't comply, she may be subject to criminal prosecution.
And this was signed by Robin Liddell, the Division Chief of the Criminal Trials Division.
Which I think shows how serious these threats are.
This isn't just a political statement, but they're willing to back this up with action, which is really concerning.
natalie winters
And this individual, you said she was just expressing concern about moving polling locations.
Is there anything else that she was saying?
Where was she posting this?
What was her sin that led her to getting a letter?
Like you said, the buried lead there being that it's the criminal division that's reaching out.
unidentified
Well, yeah, this was all over some Facebook posts.
She posted a few times on Facebook with concerns.
And of course, people can... Social media is a very fluid place.
And so we're very careful about what we say factually there.
But yes, this did originate from Facebook posts, she said.
She feels that it originated from posts on June 12th.
Um, basically, yeah, just what we said.
And then she received this in the mail, basically telling her not just to stop spreading this alleged false and misleading information, but also to remove it from the platforms.
And so she did that, trying to comply.
She also said it was very difficult to figure out how to challenge this, because the letter never said that if there was an error, she should just reach out to the AG's office.
There was a phone number, but she was very clear that if you get the threat of prosecution, you're not going to feel comfortable reaching out.
And so, yeah, she was very concerned, but felt it was important to speak out about this.
natalie winters
Before we let you go, can you just walk us through again what we were covering a few days ago with your reporting on the Center for Tech and Civic Life, but more broadly, all these kind of left-wing, dark money, you know, they operate under the pretense of being bipartisan or nonpartisan, but they only seem to be operating, right, in Democrat-heavy districts.
Just walk us through, hit us one more time with how that effort has been revamped.
unidentified
Yeah, so the Center for Tech and Civic Life, they funneled $328 million roughly from Mark Zuckerberg to local election agencies in 2020.
That had the effect of boosting Democratic turnout because it targeted mostly Democratic voting blocs and population centers.
And so what we're seeing now, they just announced another round of grants, but this time it's
specifically to rural and non-metro jurisdictions.
So what we're seeing here is an attempt to intervene in the local election administration
process because these grants not only fund election operations and get out the vote efforts,
but they also enable these left-wing third parties to have a hand in local election administration,
all the while claiming they have good interests in mind and that they're nonpartisan.
It's also important to note while we're discussing Michigan, Secretary of State Benson, the same one that encouraged reports of misinformation, she also recently met with David Becker, the head of the Center for Election Innovation and Research.
And they were discussing early voting, but it appears they're working together.
This other group is very important because it was one of the two groups, along with CTCL, that funneled suck bucks to local election agencies in 2020.
So these election influencers are not going away and they're very much still present.
natalie winters
And in terms of the Republican response, whether it's the RNC, state officials there, are you seeing any movement on trying to crack down, at least when it comes to Michigan, to counter this what I always call legalized election fraud?
unidentified
So not in Michigan.
Across the country, various states, I think more than 20 states, have banned private funding of elections.
But you're not going to see things like that in Democratic-dominated states.
But there are a lot of grassroots groups and nonprofits that are aiming to keep an eye on local election processes, and I think they're very important.
It's going to be at the grassroots level that you can keep an eye on local election offices.
And a lot of these election officials, it's important to note, are motivated by good intent.
But when you have partisan third party groups intervening in the process, that kind of throws a wrench in everything.
And so grassroots organizers and volunteers are very important here.
natalie winters
Logan, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with your reporting on all things elections, where can they go to do that?
unidentified
So, you can follow me on Twitter at LoganWashburn76, and as always, the Federalist website has great new content.
natalie winters
You know you're bringing good stories here to the War Room when the first time we have you on, RealClearPolitics picks it up, forcing them to talk about election fraud.
That's how we do it here in the War Room.
Logan, thank you so much for joining us.
We'll have you back on soon.
unidentified
Thanks for having me on the show.
natalie winters
Orrin Posse, that right there is signal, not noise.
Used to be if you spread misinformation, you would just get censored, banned, you name it, from social media platforms.
Now they're sending you letters, not even from the Civil Division, from the Criminal Division, with the Secretary of State rolling out a very well-funded, I'm sure taxpayer-subsidized program, trying to get neighbors to snitch on each other because you dared to question Well, maybe it's weird that they're moving polling places.
Maybe it's weird that they're busing in tens of millions of illegal immigrants into this country and that voter registration is off the hook and that you don't even need a signature or an ID to vote.
Now, if you say those things, at least in the state of Michigan, I'm sure it'll multiply across the country.
You're going to get fined and potentially thrown in jail for misinformation.
That is lawfare at its finest, right?
When you say, They're not going for President Trump.
They're not coming for people like Stephen K. Bannon or Peter Navarro.
They're coming for you.
I think that story is a perfect example of that, right?
What was President Trump and Steve Bannon and Peter K. Navarro's original sin?
They dared to question the election results in 2020.
And as a result, look at the hell that broke loose on their personal lives, political lives, professional lives.
That's what they're wanting to do to Americans now, too, and thank you for the patriotism and just heroicness, I would say, of that individual who worked with the Federalists on that story, speaking up, knowing the ramifications that could persist, but they're taking desperate measures in desperate times, right?
We'll be joined after the break, another interesting report on the dark money forces behind a lot of the Supreme Court reform efforts going on, all loops together.
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president Donald J.
Trump.
We'll be back after the break, going through the left's dark money
apparatus.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Bound.
Yeah.
Yeah.
natalie winters
Welcome back to the War Room, where we have always warned against the sort of plug and play apparatus that they have on the Democratic side of politics that we usually focus on it.
In the financial realm, we've of course in the last few days really focused on sort of the electioneering, the election fraud aspect of that.
In other words, it doesn't matter who's running, doesn't matter the quality of candidate, dead or alive, no pun intended, because they have, whether it's groups like CTCL, pressure campaigns against individuals who dare to speak out against just the abysmal administration of elections here in the United States, I say it's Mean to the third world to say that we run elections like they do in the third world, because I think they do it better there.
But it all comes back to what is, I think, these dark money forces that masquerade as charities, masquerade as NGOs, masquerade, frankly, as Democrat politicians and Soros-backed AGs.
But so much of the problem here, right, when you start to see these same issues on whatever local or level of government, rather, it's because they're all being funded and propped up, right, by the same people.
And this concept of dark money, I think, is something that I really want to charge ahead on on this show, because it is, as Steve has always said, the thing itself.
And I'm honored to be joined by Parker Thayer from Capital Research Center.
Now, you guys have done extremely, extremely diligent work kind of drilling down on whether it's Arabella Advisors, where the problem is so much bigger than just the trope of George Soros.
You have a great news story, particularly when it comes to the campaign for court reform, basically court packing.
Walking through the kind of left-wing financiers and ties to the Harris campaign behind all this, can you walk us through your news story?
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
It's a new story, but in a lot of ways it's also an old story.
It's a profile of a group that some might have heard of, some might not.
Call demand justice.
It's what we like to call a dark money group or a 501c4 Advocacy organization And what Demand Justice did, many of your listeners might remember, during the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearings, Brett Kavanaugh's name was dragged through the mud needlessly and baselessly for weeks on end in the media.
The ringleader of that entire media circus was Demand Justice.
They had protesters out in the halls of Congress dressed as people from The Handmaid's Tale.
They were pressuring Susan Collins and trying to get her to flip her vote.
They bought website domain stop Kavanaugh comm and all this at the time demand justice was a fiscally sponsored project or kind of a pop-up front organization and Of the 1630 Fund, which is of course the largest dark money 501c4 that the left has, and is controlled by the Arabella Advisors Network, which is the largest dark money network in the world, period.
They raise over a billion dollars a year and direct almost all of that money to far-left political causes, a lot of it done through these fiscally sponsored project pop-up groups.
Demand justice has since then spun off and just after the catastrophic debate performance that I think everyone agreed was not optimal from Joe Biden.
The demand justice group jumped in and announced a $10 million ad campaign specifically focused on discrediting and undermining the Supreme Court.
They're going to try and they have been trying for a very long time to make court packing or expanding the Supreme Court with an arbitrary number of justices.
A mainstream issue instead of the radical fringe issue it once was.
It is now the mainstream party platform as President Joe Biden came out and announced that he's supporting term limits, which is just a de facto way of packing the Supreme Court.
And it all goes back to these, the dark money donors behind this not liking the way the court rules.
natalie winters
And can you walk us through some of the ties, like you were saying, this is mainstream Democratic politics, right?
Some of the people involved have very high level roles now in the Harris campaign.
unidentified
Exactly.
So Demand Justice, back in its heyday, was created by a guy named Brian Fallon.
If that name sounds familiar to any of you, he's had a lot of jobs in Democratic politics.
He started out on the John Kerry presidential campaign.
Then moved over to be a campaign communications director for Bob Menendez, of all people.
He scrubbed that from his LinkedIn.
He doesn't want people to know that.
Then he moved on, was with Chuck Schumer for nearly a decade as his lead communications director.
And then he moved over to Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2016 as the press secretary.
After that, he moved over and created Demand Justice.
And since then, Demand Justice, of course, made all of the Supreme Court confirmations into media circuses and has made court packing into a mainstream political issue for the Democratic Party and the left.
But since then, he has left Demand Justice.
What is his new job?
Well, it's the head of communications For then Vice President Kamala Harris, but he has now become the head of a presidential campaign after Joe Biden withdrew very suddenly.
I would say the timing of a guy with Brian Fallon's credentials moving from his own pet dark money group to become the head of a vice president's communications campaign, it didn't make sense at the time.
After Biden withdrew, it started making a lot more sense.
Especially since one of his other old bosses was, he was the head of PR for Eric Holder during the peak of all of his scandals, Fast and Furious and Contempt of Congress.
Eric Holder, just the other day we found out, was the guy who vetted all of Kamala Harris's VP candidates.
And then presumably okayed Tim Walz.
It was a very suspicious move at the time, I noticed, and I wrote this in my report.
It didn't make a lot of sense, but it makes a lot of sense now.
I want to know what Brian Fallon knew and when he knew it about the likelihood that Biden would withdraw from the campaign and that he'd find himself suddenly promoted to the head of a presidential campaign against Trump for the second time in his life.
natalie winters
With all the happy talk that we hear from these people about how important democracy is, while they're of course pushing lawfare, would you say that it is a fair charge to say that a lot of this dark money stuff, this manipulation of campaign financing, I think compounded on the other side of the coin with the sort of weird act blue stuff, the money laundering stuff that we've been starting to uncover, that this is in and of itself sort of another form of
financial lawfare, right? The way that they're playing these legal kind of shell games with these
organizations, these entities masquerading as bipartisan or independent when in reality they're not.
Can you sort of walk the audience through the larger network that is Arabella Advisors, how
this is so much bigger than just, you know, the one-off that is George Soros? Yeah,
unidentified
absolutely. So, Demand Justice is just one of the organizations that Arabella
has created to attack the Supreme Another organization by the name of Fix the Court, which I exposed for having major problems with its campaign or with its IRS tax disclosures, even though its main purpose is to advocate for more disclosure from the Supreme Court.
Um, you know, fix the court and demand justice.
We're both, um, you know, turning all of our Supreme Court nomination processes into a complete media circus, uh, with wild speculation.
And at the core of it, um, is this Arabella advisors organization.
of course, even though it looks like there may be 10, 11, 12
different organizations all advocating, and supposedly there's broad public support
for something like Supreme Court term limits, or Supreme Court financial disclosures,
or ethical regulation bodies that are somehow controlled by Congress.
They're using the guise of concern for transparency and ethics, even
though they're using very non-transparent methods to fund and advocate for all of these things.
So they're very focused, supposedly, on the idea of transparency, ethics, and disclosure, while not doing any of that themselves.
And the reality is they couldn't care any less about ethics, transparency, or disclosure.
If you want proof of that, just look back the last 10 years before demand justice came onto the scene.
No one was writing any stories about, uh, you know, Clarence Thomas's trips or, uh, anything like that, even though those were already in the news.
It's just people weren't concerned about that because we trust our Supreme Court system.
We trust our constitutional system of governments.
Um, you know, the sudden concern is simply because the court has started making rulings that the left does not like.
And so they're reaching for any weapon they can to attack the Supreme Court and Arabella advisors provided those weapons tenfold.
natalie winters
And do you see any meaningful pushback, whether through legislation or whatever, coming from Republicans in a variety, whether it's elected officials, grassroots, what do you see?
unidentified
Yeah, people who are committed to the Constitution, who like the system that the founders set up, in which the Supreme Court is one of the three main branches of government.
People who are constitutional conservatives have been speaking up about this.
They've been writing op-eds.
They've been exposing the fact that these media smear campaigns against the Supreme Court are coordinated by one or two or three or four common donors.
You know, people are calling for the Supreme Court to get more protection after a failed assassination attempt.
You know, I think it's been really healthy for the country.
The response to the smear campaign, it hasn't worked, but it's going to continue.
And with demand justice arming up another $10 million to try and discredit the Supreme Court, it's going to be a battle that has to keep being fought.
natalie winters
And do you think, I'm just curious, in looking at this, is this something that is unique to the left?
In other words, is the MAGA kind of faction of the right wing, when they say that, oh, you know, we're anti-democracy, do we fund our elections, our groups like that?
Or is it more genuinely grassroots?
unidentified
No, there are certainly conservative judicial advocacy organizations that do a lot of great work, and many of those organizations are doing a really good job of holding the left-wing groups that are telling lies about the Supreme Court accountable.
Um, so I think it's, it's a, uh, one of those battles that conservatives are very, there are a lot of things that conservatives are not good at doing, particularly with the, uh, you know, the more, less grassroots, more donor influenced, uh, parts of political advocacy.
Um, but the conservatives are very good, I think, and doing a great job so far of trying to protect the Supreme Court, uh, from existential threats.
natalie winters
And Parker, if people want to follow you, read more of your reporting, where can they go to do that?
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm on Twitter slash X at Parker Thayer.
You can also check out capitalresearch.org, capital spelled with an A, not an O, where we post new content every day exposing dark money groups, nonprofits getting involved in elections.
We did lots of work on CTCL, which your excellent previous guest Logan Washburn mentioned.
We cover it all.
If the left doesn't, we cover it.
So check us out at capitalresearch.org as well.
natalie winters
I'm sure no shortage of content.
Parker, thank you so much for joining us.
unidentified
Absolutely.
Thank you.
natalie winters
We'll be back after the break.
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unidentified
I think there's a deeper psychological significance to everything you just said, which is we're living in a moment in which, and I'm quoting a Twitter user I just saw, named Riley.
Tim Waltz is the dad and grandpa that Rush and Rupert stole from us.
He's the family we lost when their personalities changed seemingly overnight.
If the right-wing funded rage machine never existed, we would have had millions like him.
They've broken so many families.
I can't tell you how much that tweet that I just saw resonates with my reporting over these years.
We are living in a country in which millions and millions of people literally feel like they have living, dead family members who have been brainwashed into hatred and extremism.
And here's a guy who shows another way.
Butter carving.
I said yesterday, look, everyone in America, regardless of your family structure, just got a new dad and he would like you to have an orange.
And this is someone who shows a different model of masculinity and a joyous sense of the future.
And I think it's very personally resonant for people who have struggled, as I know so many have, with people lost to the tunnel of MAGA extremism.
Yeah, I think it's a very significant moment.
I think John Heilman is right that a lot of us in the journalist or pundit class are maybe a little bit slow on the uptake of what this is because we're used to an older paradigm.
I think a lot of us We're trained in a pre-authoritarian Republican moment, pre-fascist Republican playbook, running against people like Mitt Romney, and so strategies about swing states and those kinds of things came out of those experiences.
We are now in a moment when the right in this country is an authoritarian movement, increasingly fascistic movement.
And part of what you see in authoritarian movements around the world is that they make people feel things, right?
They make people emotional.
They get the blood up.
And Democrats for too long have been running against authoritarianism with wonkiness, with policy, with material things, with bridges and roads, all very worthy things.
But not competing on the level of getting the blood up, making people feel.
And so I think this is a choice that shows, and as you've seen throughout the last two weeks, this is a campaign that understands the importance of vibes.
Vibes can sound dismissive or like some Gen Z thing, but it's actually about competing against authoritarianism when they are very directly targeting the limbic system of voters.
And it's actually Democrats joining the contest for people's hearts and not just appealing to the brain.
And I think when you talk about a figure like Coach Walls, obviously there were a bunch of good notes around the freedom frame, patriotism, things like that.
But the biggest significance of this man Is that he is an older white man in a moment in which the far right is trying to convince white people that the future is treacherous for them, trying to convince men that the future is treacherous for them.
And here is a an older white man, a coach, a soldier.
Who is very hard to dismiss as some kind of effect coastal elite, who is telling older folks and white people, you do not need to be afraid of the future.
There is joy in the future.
There is joy in having your boss be a black woman.
There is joy in what is coming.
And I think he is going to teach lots of people in addition to whatever role he plays in an election and in the White House.
He's going to teach lots of people through his role in the culture.
Of any Cold Open we've ever played, honestly, I think that may be the worst one.
natalie winters
Anand, I don't need to be taught by you or anyone else what it's like to have a boss who is a black woman or what it's like to become A minority in the United States at the hands of Tim Walz or anyone else because of your horrific policy decisions trying to spin Tim Walz as this you know normal level-headed guy who's who's so cool and we're the weird ones.
I mean he's telling us that we need to be taught and by taught he means shut sit down and shut up and take it.
We're apparently the authoritarian ones, but we need to be lectured by our intellectual superiors, a la Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, the latter being so deeply in bed with the Chinese Communist Party, that the former, who was so deeply in bed with, you know, Willie Brown, such an intellectual there.
But these are the people that we need to be taught and lectured by.
I don't think so.
And that shows you, frankly, I think the buried lead there, and we'll have Trevor Loudon joining us shortly.
The fact that they're spinning Tim Waltz's race as a positive, that is MSNBC talking about a white person positively, their, you know, token white hire.
I think that shows you just how radical Kamala Harris is going to be on racial issues, just like Tim Waltz was so radical when it came to the George Floyd riots.
In other words, they know they need an old white dude who, by the way, is only 60, but looks like he's a heck of a lot older than that.
But I digress on that point.
But that they need someone like him to sort of tamp down and offset what is the wokeness, which I have always maintained is just a euphemism for anti-whiteness of the Harris campaign.
And when I say anti-whiteness, I mean something much bigger.
What is their rejection of the concept of make America great again, because they never think America, they never thought it was great.
They don't think there's a past that's worth going back to, right?
Whiteness represents that and so much more to them.
But I really think that that segment right there, besides being told that we need to understand the joys of what it is like working for a black woman, I think that's so offensive.
Imagine saying that the other way around.
You'd get kicked off of MSNBC for saying that.
But that shows you the side, the evilness that we're up against.
People who think that you lost family members and that you're the brainwashed one, that you're the crazy people that your families can't handle, that you are the grandparents that you, you know, that were stolen from your grandchildren because you dared to listen to Rush Limbaugh.
I'm sorry, Anand, but who the heck are you?
I've never even heard of you before.
I don't need to be taught anything by you and the people you're defending.
I don't want to be taught by them because they're Marxists to their core.
Trevor Loudon, who did a wonderful job kind of walking us through the Marxist ties of Kamala Harris, joins us again.
Now, Trevor, I do want to kind of rehash the Kamala stuff developments on that front, but before we get there, kind of give us your opening salvo on all of the concerning radical ties held by the man who's going to teach us what it's like to be white in the United States, Tim Walz.
unidentified
Well, Kamala Harris is a Marxist with extensive ties to pro-Chinese communists.
Tim Walz is a Marxist with extensive ties, 40 years of ties, directly to the Chinese Communist Party, more than any other serving US politician.
You couldn't have picked a more Chinese, pro-China, pro-Mao politician in the country than Tim Walz.
natalie winters
So on the Harris front and the Tim Walz, it seems sort of like a match made in hell, right?
On the China front.
But can you walk us through some of Walz's Chinese ties?
unidentified
Yeah, look, he started out going there and look, he was a young National Guardsman.
You know, good start in life.
He was in the National Guard, joined at 17.
But in his early 20s, he was selected by Harvard program to go to China to study to teach at a high school in Guangdong province.
This was right when Tiananmen Square was going on by the way that he was there.
A few years later, he started a company with his wife with Chinese money, government money to bring Regular delegations of Minnesota youth to China.
He did this from about 1993 right up to 2005, just before he became a Congress member.
And these young kids were taken to universities.
They were told by him to de-emphasize their American-ness, to not offend their Chinese hosts.
And this was a Chinese propaganda operation.
Subsidized by the Communist Party and Tim Waltz was making money off this.
He also taught at a university in Macau for several years as a visiting lecturer.
Now, common sense tells you That the Chinese are interested in American military people.
They would have known he had a military background.
They would have known he could get some influence in the U.S.
military.
They would have been interested in him from an intelligence background from day one.
And they were right because he served on the Armed Services Committee.
You know, this man who couldn't pass a background check to drive a school bus, who would not be allowed to work for the Defense Department or the State Department, was serving on the Armed Services Committee with this extensive background to China.
But it doesn't even stop there.
He was regularly propagandized for China when Trump was trying to stop trade with China.
Tim Walz was using the Minnesota soybean trade to propagandize that we need to keep the agricultural trade going.
So he was deliberately countering Trump's policies on trade there.
And he was, in 2019, he was a guest speaker at a conference run by the US-China Friendship Association.
which is an old, old communist front that was started in the 1970s.
But the speaker next to him was Li Xiaolin, the daughter of the former Chinese president under Xi Jinping.
This woman is Chinese royalty.
She's a Chinese princess, a leader of the Chinese Communist Party's National Consultative Committee, which is the main propaganda arm of the Chinese Communist Party.
But he was right there.
That shows the regard that pro-Chinese communists hold this man in.
And when he was governor of Minnesota, when the George Floyd riots were going on, which were organized by pro-Chinese communists from the Freedom Road Socialist Organization, burning his city down, he held the National Guard off for three days so they could complete their job.
But this guy has Midwestern values.
He's a coach.
He looks like a grandfather, right?
The guy is, if not a fully recruited Chinese agent, at the very least, he is not a fully recruited Chinese agent of influence.
At the very least, he is a Chinese dupe of the most extreme degree.
natalie winters
I always say with the Chinese Communist Party influence stuff, they're Their efforts, their outreach programs are radioactive, right?
And that once you kind of go CCP, you don't go back once they have you in their claws, right?
unidentified
It's like dealing with the mafia.
Once they got their hooks in you, they do not let you go.
natalie winters
Or at least you don't live to tell about it.
unidentified
No, you don't.
And congratulations for finding that thing about the meeting he attended in 2019, actually.
That put a lot of things together.
But that's right.
They would have had an interest in him for 40 years.
You cannot tell me there was no opportunity to blackmail that man during that time or that they even had to blackmail him because he's clearly so sympathetic to China and propagandizes for them every single opportunity he can get.
I don't think they even had to, would have even had to have blackmailed him.
I just think he is more sympathetic to China than he is to the United States.
natalie winters
It's an ideological compromise, which I think is compounded by the actual and Trevor, we're going to bounce to break, but I want to hold you through to rehash some of the The Harris stuff, but Warren Posse in the meantime.
You can go to patriotmobile.com slash Bannon if you probably don't want the Chinese Communist Party listening in on your calls.
I know they don't.
They don't work with them.
They're good, good guys.
We love Glenn.
We love the whole team over there.
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Two after the break, Trevor Loudon on the concerning CCP and Marxist ties of maybe your future president.
unidentified
We'll be right back.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
natalie winters
Welcome back to the War Room.
Getting a lot of reception to what I was talking about with that previous MSNBC clip.
You can go to my Twitter.
I have some threads and corresponding posts kind of walking through more of that Logic Train, and like Trevor alluded to, I did break that story of the Chinese Communist Party ties of Tim Walz speaking at that event alongside, you know, casually the daughter of a former Chinese Communist Party.
Yeah, well look, I've got a new book coming out.
national security issues there, although I guess maybe Hunter Biden normalized it, so
maybe we don't care anymore.
But I think we do.
Something tells me we do, and we should, right, Trevor?
Walk us through the latest.
I know you're sort of working on a new project documenting the far-left ties of Kamala Harris.
Kind of repackage it for us.
unidentified
Yeah, well, look, I've got a new book coming out.
It's called Kamala Harris's Communist Roots.
And people can go to my website, TrevorLoudon.com, order it.
It'll be coming out pretty soon.
We'll have a release date shortly.
But it goes right into her red diaper baby background, her parents, her Marxist parents, the Marxist organization she was attending as an elementary school child, her deep ties to the communist sympathizer, Willie Brown.
...of that.
Her ties to Black Lives Matter, the Maoist networks in the Bay Area, connections to Storm that Van Jones came out of, standing together to organize a revolutionary movement.
But most of all, her ties to Steve Phillips, the former Stanford University Maoist.
who married into one of the richest families of San Francisco, the Golden West Savings and Loan Fortune, and has used that money, working with George Soros and other people in the so-called Democracy Alliance, to elect radical candidates of color, starting with Barack Obama, attempted to elect Andrew Gillum in Florida, Stacey Abrams in Georgia, And at every step of her career, Kamala Harris.
So we're going to deal with Kamala's Maoist outlook.
It's not even Marxist.
It's Maoist outlook from her baby carriage days right up to the present time.
They haven't changed.
She is deeply steeped in this, but I think the evidence we will produce will shock even Many very well-seasoned political commentators.
She is deep in this stuff.
But what people don't understand how deeply she is a manufactured candidate, manufactured by a Maoist clique that helped to get Barack Obama ahead of Hillary Clinton.
That almost elected governors in several states, and was also very instrumental in Black Lives Matter, the rioting of 2020, and the Chinese-backed, Chinese-influenced voter registration organizations that boast they won the 2020 election for Joe Biden, that boast They won the key states for Biden.
So this is a whole bunch of information that most Americans just will have very little idea of.
So Trevor Loudon dot com, place to go for Kamala Harris's communist roots.
natalie winters
Trevor, thank you so much for joining us.
We'll have you back on soon, as I'm sure more of those Communist roots, ties, and, as they manifest in the form of policy proposals, continue to come out from that side, while calling us weird.
Trevor, thank you so much for joining us.
unidentified
While calling us weird.
Thanks so much, Natalie, and thanks to all of the viewers.
natalie winters
Of course.
Proudly weird here in the War Room.
Another man who I'm sure wears the weird label with pride is Mike Lindell.
Mike, Minnesota, Tim Waltz, you have a lot of thoughts there.
So you can start with that.
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I defer to you.
mike lindell
Yeah, well, you know, like I said, like our real president said, thanks.
This is a gift, everybody.
You've got Waltz on there, who makes Kamala Harris look like a moderate.
If you really dig into it, everybody, I've lived it, okay?
The stuff he has done, and not just, fuck, the obvious stuff of burning down Minneapolis and And all the stuff, the nonsensical things he did during COVID, like we'd have our houses at Thanksgiving, our families could have eight people, and if you had one more person, your neighbors could turn in, where you could turn in a whistleblower site, and you'd do 90 days in jail.
Christmas, he gave us three extra people, I believe it was.
He shut down our Christian churches, let the mosques, let the Muslims run for a call to Allah off all the buildings in Minneapolis over the loudspeakers.
He's a sanctuary state for gender mutilation.
People can come there from all the other states.
Yes, abortions doesn't matter if they're born, doesn't matter what month in at all.
The third highest taxes in the country.
He gave driver's licenses to all the illegals.
You guys name anything and he's as far left as you can go.
So I feel it's a big gift for our great real President Donald Trump and for our country, because people will understand and learn.
They're not going to be able to hide what he's done and what he stands for.
This ticket created it.
It's like if I was their marketer, I'm going, What are they even going to stand on?
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Mike, thank you as always for joining us and Warren Fossey.
Thank you for hanging with me.
I'll see you tomorrow at 5 p.m.
I think I'm going to be co-hosting on Friday with Brian Kennedy live from the Claremont Institute.
Exciting.
Look forward to that.
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