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Episode 3810: Kamala Picks Liberal Minnesota Governor For VP
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is elected, how do you defend the Constitution? How do you defend the rule
of law? And it turns out to be difficult. And you can't stop everything an
authoritarian would do if armed with control over the executive branch.
But you can do a lot of things to delay and deflect and diminish the damage that that authoritarian might try to do.
And you've got some of it up on your screen.
It includes, I think, the ultimate response is that the American people have to demonstrate that they reject living in an autocracy.
So that starts with polling.
Donald Trump cares about his polls, and he needs support well beyond his minority mega base in order to have the kind of soft power that a president has when backed by the public.
But yeah, I mean, we may need demonstrations.
Disciplined and peaceful demonstrations in large numbers that last a long time, potentially, or there may need to be a general strike.
I mean, the people may need to show with their feet and where they go and what they say, that they don't want to be governed by a death pen.
But I mean, there are lots of things to do before that.
I mean, there are legal, there are litigation strategies.
If the president steps over the line, there's use of Uh, every power of Congress to avoid funding things that Trump wants to do that are abuses of power.
There is the need to organize self-defense for the defenders of democracy.
He has the power to target his political enemies with prosecutions, with tax audits, with regulations, with antitrust.
He can say, go get this person or that person.
He's said, I'm going to prosecute the Biden crime family.
And we need to organize networks of lawyers and accountants and cybersecurity experts and physical security experts and crisis communications teams to jump in and help the victims of this kind of retribution.
We saw in 2022 that they refused to certify the elections in Cochise County, Arizona and in several places in Pennsylvania.
I sued them.
We won.
The folks in Cochise County subsequently got indicted for it.
And you might think that would serve as a deterrent for 2024.
But, you know, as Donald Trump proved, the loyalty to his crimes and misdeeds is stronger than people's instinct for self-preservation.
rachel maddow
Briefly, Mark, what can people who are concerned about this do to try to make sure it doesn't happen?
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Yeah, so we all play a role.
So first of all, thank you for calling this out.
Lawyers, we go to court, but making this public is the big part of the battle.
And I'd ask every person listening to this to speak out on this.
Don't stay silent.
You all have a town square.
You don't all have millions of viewers like Rachel Maddow, but each and every one of you can post on social media.
You can attend these canvas board meetings.
You can file comments in Georgia before the state election board.
In your own counties, you can know who is on these boards and you can attend their meetings.
Every citizen has a role to play here.
And if we all do that, I am confident that we will defeat these efforts and Kamala Harris will be sworn in as the next president of the United States.
joe scarborough
So the Wall Street Journal is now also confirming it is Governor Walz, and there's a source, NBC News, also confirming that.
Most of the news agencies lining up, CNN, most of the news agencies lining up saying that it is going to be Governor Walz.
I will say, the one thing that causes concern, just electorally, about what he does bring to this ticket was when we had Steve Kornacki on, was it yesterday?
I believe it was yesterday, and I asked him, I said, will he help bring rural voters, the white rural voters that Joe Biden actually did better with, older voters.
And he showed me, he showed us all in the 2022 race that was not the case.
In fact, Joe Biden did better than him in those areas.
Barack Obama did much better.
than him in those areas. So we will see perhaps he will have a reach to those rural voters
in a way that he didn't even in his own governor's race.
That will remain to be seen. But we shall see. Again, it looks like Tim Walz is going to be the
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running mate.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going
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medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
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The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
joe scarborough
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
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War Room.
Here's your host Stephen K. Bound.
Tuesday 6th of August.
ben harnwell
So we had a lot of interesting things there in the cold open.
I don't know what we do at MSNBC.
filling in for Steve Bannon, political prisoner of the Jill Biden regime.
So we had a lot of interesting things there in the cold open.
I don't know what we'd do without MSNBC.
So in the last hour, it has been confirmed that the fourth piece of the jigsaw is now in place.
Kamala Harris has named her VP.
It is Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota.
We'll have Mike Lindell on the show in a little bit, just to give us the view from Minnesota on that nomination.
But there's a lot of disinformation coming out regarding just how popular the new Democratic ticket is.
And we've got a lot of guests today.
There's stuff on the Supreme Court, Minnesota, as I say, the economy.
First, however, we've got Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen Reports, who has taken the temperature of the nation.
And it is not what their folks are saying on MSNBC.
Mark, good morning to you.
Now, I gather that your latest results in terms of the six swing states What I think you're going to see over the next couple of days is palpable desperation.
as to how this ticket is going down.
And it's not the case that Kamala Harris has knocked the Biden-Vance ticket into a three-cornered
hat.
Can you break it down for us?
What's the news here for the war imposter?
Good morning, Mark.
mark mitchell
What I think you're going to see over the next couple of days is palpable desperation.
I think the plan was to try and ride the Kamala Harris coronation as long as possible to keep
the positive news in the press, and then to selectively highlight polls that all seem
to be dumping right now that have Kamala Harris up.
But what's interesting is if you look at the multi-way matchups on Real Clear Politics, there's no data since August 2nd.
And if you look at the two-way matchups, you see, I think, one or two polls that are up to August 4th.
Um, but if, you know, I have a big reason to suspect the accuracy, a lot of those polls, and it's not the kind of thing you're going to be able to go in and look at the cross tabs.
But if there was a week in 2024 where polls that had, um, malicious waiting shifts where polls were over sampled Democrats.
This would be the week to do it and I think that's what you're seeing because what we're doing that no other person in the industry is doing is polling every night and then plotting the results of what we see and if Denver can put that chart up this is up to date as of last night's numbers you can visibly see Kamala Harris has a bounce and those numbers have faded night by night Right now, Donald Trump is beating Kamala Harris in last night's data by five points.
The night before, it was seven points.
There was a period, seven or eight days ago, where Donald Trump was down for two days under Kamala Harris.
That's when she was getting all this positive press.
She got the Obama endorsement.
Those results have faded and Donald Trump looks like he's settling back into exactly where we said he was going to settle into, which is about a three to five point range, comfortably outside the margin of error.
And quite frankly, not much different than Biden's numbers.
ben harnwell
Let's do that again.
We'll back.
Let's have that statistic again, because we only really heard that Donald Trump was leading Joe Biden by five points after Kamala Harris overturned that result because the press has really suppressed this.
All we knew that the polls weren't, from the mainstream media, all we knew that the polls weren't that favourable towards Biden was the fact that leading Democrats like Nancy Pelosi, like Barack Obama, were saying the polls aren't looking good.
Joe needs to consider his position.
We weren't really ever told that Donald Trump was running at a five point national advantage until Karma comes in.
She's the nominee.
She takes it up to herself to like a half point, one point lead.
And that's when we're told how great a candidate she is because she overcame this massive lead.
Now, what you're saying is that was like basically a blip, a honeymoon period of a few days, but it's already dissipated.
And Donald Trump has resumed.
What did you say?
Between a five and seven point lead.
That is absolutely astonishing.
Mark Mitchell.
Astonishing.
mark mitchell
Yeah, and we're not surprised at all.
We had Donald Trump up over Joe Biden from 5 to 10 points all spring, all the way back to December.
We knew it was going to tighten up some, but here we are with Kamala Harris, and she had her bounce, and now it's faded again.
And she's maybe doing about a point better, maybe two points than when Joe Biden was doing.
But this election, in my opinion, is a referendum about the MAGA platform versus the Democrat machine.
In what logic is this woman with a very short list of accomplishments going to step in and change the race in any particular way?
I'm not even seeing a pickup in the minority demographics that much, to be honest with you.
She's doing a little bit better with younger voters, obviously because their candidate's not a cadaver anymore, but I think those will fade as well.
And I think what's causing all the desperation now is that their plan of Extending this bounce as long as possible with some selectively chosen, potentially suspect polling is now the new cracks in the market because they have been losing majorly on the second biggest issue, border security.
49% of voters said that as the borders are Kamala Harris did a poor job.
Only 33% gave her a good or excellent rating.
But now, the number one issue, the economy, it looks like, I think the Democrats thought they were going to skate by on this sort of nebulous feeling that the economy was all right, while the elites selectively said, well, isn't it great the stock market's up?
The stock market has crashed now, and that really changed the narrative, because it is all about the economy in all of our numbers, and especially in the swing states.
How's the economy going to play in Pennsylvania?
Like, not well.
ben harnwell
Mark, tell me, of the two parties, which party or which candidate does the American people support more when it comes to the handling of the economy?
And the way you said, I think border security was second on the issue.
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Where does the management of the economy come?
mark mitchell
Yeah, we have fresh new numbers.
I will say we've been polling on the topic of Bidenomics, which Kamala Harris is fully supported.
And 27% of voters said that Bidenomics would help Biden get reelected.
46% said it hurt.
Pretty strong signal.
But now we have numbers that actually have Kamala Harris in the questions.
Will Kamala Harris's economic policies be better or worse than Joe Biden's policies?
Only 22% say better, 38% say worse.
So voters are looking at Kamala Harris and saying she's gonna do even worse than Bidenomics.
And the independent numbers are horrible.
15% say better, 37% say worse.
But then when asked, will Donald Trump's economic policies be better or worse than Joe Biden's policies?
51% say better.
That's even more than the 49 to 50% support that Donald Trump's getting in our election matchups.
38% say worse.
So he's got a 13 point advantage margin on that.
And among independents, 48% say better, 33% say worse.
Even a quarter of Democrats say that Donald Trump's policies will be better than Joe Biden's.
And every time we ask party trust on the issues of inflation or economy, Republicans lead by high single to low double digits margins.
People trust Republicans and Donald Trump significantly more than Democrats and Biden or Harris, whoever they want to throw in that seat on the economy.
ben harnwell
Right, Mark.
Mark, we've got about 30 seconds coming up to the break.
Do you have any breakdown?
You were mentioning about the provisional lack of depth in terms of the crosstabs, but do you have any instinct of how these questions are playing in those six swing states?
We've got about 19 seconds.
mark mitchell
Yeah, in our polling, Donald Trump was winning in every single swing state.
The tightest was Michigan.
I don't think the vice presidential politics are going to have much of an impact.
And every single one of those swing states pulled the same on the issues.
unidentified
I think it's economy and the poor.
ben harnwell
We're going to go to in a few moments to Dave Brat to have a breakdown on the latest to do with the disintegration of Biden's economy, of Jill Biden's economy.
mark mitchell
Before we finish off with Mark Mitchell, who was before the break, just sort of giving us an analysis of how important the economy is in the forming of, especially for independence, I guess, of how they're going to vote and how that plays, particularly in those six Yeah, I think Joe Biden's administration and by extension Kamala Harris has been a party for the elites and that has shown up time and time again in our income and education numbers and even the most recent economic polling
Lower middle class voters, middle class voters, they trust Trump more on the economy than Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.
And that's just a fact.
And what's interesting too is the swing states all just look the same on the issues.
It's identical, even Michigan.
Economy's number one, borders number two.
It's about 30% and 20%.
You add them up, that's half the country.
Throw in violent crime and government corruption, you're up to the 60s.
And I think that those are MAGA issues.
And we had, in the swing states, Trump leading in every single one in a multi-way.
Michigan plus one, Wisconsin plus three, Pennsylvania plus four.
And that was in a poll that had Trump only up three.
Again, I think he's up three or four points.
We'll see in our final poll Thursday, and we'll continue to poll nightly.
But I just don't see what's changed so much that's really going to play into the swing states.
She didn't even pick a running mate from Pennsylvania.
And right now in our polling and in other people's polling too, Trump is up in Pennsylvania.
She picked somebody from Minnesota, which should be safe Democrat.
Now, I know there's a whole bunch of reasons why you'd pick a vice presidential candidate, but like, tell me what it is.
Like, I don't think they really have a strategy and I think they got caught flat footed with this economy.
And I think a lot of people have accused and maybe rightly so, That the economy didn't partially collapse until all this positive polling for the Democrats came out.
But I'm just not seeing it in my polling.
There was two days, right, where Donald Trump was being beaten by Kamala Harris.
He's won eight of the ten other days and is now winning.
And the trend, just like we saw on that chart, is clear.
I just don't think that races change that much.
Like, until somebody tells me a hypothesis of why they think Kamala Harris is that much better than Joe Biden, I think the polls that I see make sense, and other people in the aggregate, you should, you know, raise an eyebrow and a question mark when looking at those.
And I think there's a lot more room for the economy to degrade.
I've been following our own unemployment rate very closely, and it is ticking up.
It is now 8.4% in our numbers.
More than twice the official rate up from 7.9, you know, just a month ago.
And the unemployment rate among 18 to 39 year olds is 14, 15 percent.
That should be Kamala Harris's best demographic.
Trump is winning with those people.
ben harnwell
Mark, I just want to bounce off what you were saying there, because in the cold open, we had some talking head on MSNBC referring to MAGA being the scare talk about Donald Trump being an authoritarian figure.
There was so many things.
We don't have time to break that niche.
error that guy mentioned.
He did mention, however, that MAGA was a minority, and that reminded me immediately of something
that Steve Bannon always says on the show.
MAGA is not a minority in America.
It's a majority.
It may not always be visibly a majority, but the issues that MAGA champion are clearly
two-thirds of where the American public are.
I think that is confirmed in what you were saying, that the economy and the border, numbers
one and two in the hierarchy of people's issues of choosing how they're going to vote, their
priorities.
This is even more so, of course, in those six swing states.
Obviously, we may throw in Arizona there on the border security issue, obviously.
Mark, where do people go to get hold of your latest poll on Rasmussen Reports if they want
to study this in more detail themselves?
mark mitchell
Yeah, on the kitchen table issues, the country is center-right.
The left accuses those positions of being alt-right and conservative, and they convince people to vote for other reasons.
Yeah, follow us on Rasmussen underscore poll at Twitter, and also YouTube.
We go into the numbers in a lot more depth.
We have a really great video about the economy that we put out yesterday.
I'd love for everybody to check it out.
ben harnwell
Mark Mitchell, thanks so much for joining us today.
God bless.
mark mitchell
Happy to be here.
ben harnwell
Thanks.
Dave Brat, the economy there we're hearing is, as it has always been, normally in the one or second top, first or top position of people's priorities.
And the results, the polls are showing that, increasingly showing that, especially in the six swing states.
However, just talking to you in the break, you have a reason that Steve would be cheerful right now, right?
dave brat
Yeah, well Ben, I first want to applaud you, Ben, for doing a great job and, you know, sharing the ban and language like you just did.
This thing is not the old red-blue political debate, all political views are my own.
This is about a populist America.
We have 75% of the people on board.
And you just saw Mark Mitchell in that polling.
He said as much.
Trump is up, you know, 20-25% on the economic meat and potato issues.
And so I just wanted to take a few minutes today just to go over the charts because it would make Steve so proud, right?
He is the leader of leaders on this stuff.
He saw way over the horizon, made all these play calls four years ago.
Peter Nabarro as well, me, I came on board, EJ and Tony, but just a great economic team.
And so I just want to reel through a few charts on this stock market tumult.
You're going to hear, you know, the dead cat bounce in the markets going up a little bit today.
There's more to come, right?
And it's just not my opinion.
So if Denver wants to just put up the charts, what caused this?
You're only going to hear this news here, right?
You're not going to hear this from the mainstream media at all.
First, the Federal Reserve printed $9 trillion in money.
They are not fixing things right now.
They destroyed price stability and the Federal Reserve destroyed economic growth.
They did it in 07-08, and they did it now in a second bubble.
You would think they would learn.
Secondly, the federal government is doing $2 trillion government spending deficits, right?
$7 trillion spending.
The Republicans are in on that with the Democrats.
It's ruining our economy.
The kids won't have a future.
Third, all that money back in 07-08 went to the housing bust.
Similarly, all that money they printed is still sloshing around.
That's why there might be a little more time here.
But Schiller, right, who won the Nobel Prize in Finance, has the P-E ratio, right, that's the price of the stock market to the earnings or profits.
20% off, meaning the stock market is 20% still overvalued.
There's way more room to fall.
And the chart you're looking at right here, this comes from Warren Buffett, right?
This shows same thing, that little dotted gray line in the middle of the graph you can see.
That's the long-run historic average.
That's where the stock market should be.
That blue line is where we are right now at the far right.
We're 59% percentage points, according to Warren Buffett, above the historic norms, meaning the stock market is still overpriced.
And that's probably why Warren Buffett is selling right now, along with Jamie Dimon at JPMorgan and a few other notables.
Next chart.
This is the biggie.
We've been on the war room forever.
Why is this really happening?
Because Federal Reserve behavior and government spending has caused a decline in productivity for the last 70 years.
70 years of productivity decline.
That's the real economy right there you're looking at.
There's no way of hiding from that one.
You're not going to see that from any other folks, except Rickards.
Rickards later, he'll be awesome.
On all the Japan and the currency issues, I'm gonna let him, you know, that's his expertise.
Next chart, Denver.
This is why productivity is down.
China's cleaning our clock.
The top graph is China has $100 trillion in capital to work with.
The United States only has $70 trillion.
They're a smaller economy with more capital.
How did that happen?
Next chart, Denver.
As Stephen K. Bannon would say, we've been shipping our jobs overseas.
There's the mighty United States of America in the middle of that graph.
Big, thick blue portion.
And then you see the shrinkage of our industrial might.
over time and now we're anemic. We've sent all of our jobs to China and all of our capital along with it.
And that's why our productivity is low and is crushing us.
Last couple charts, Denver, real quick.
You may not know Chinese, the Chinese government is smaller than the United
States government.
Their government sector is only 14% of GDP.
They're a communist surveillance state, a totalitarian state with a smaller government than the United States.
Our government is 18% of GDP.
China is only 14%.
It's stunning.
Last chart is just inflation.
What's this got to do with your life?
Well, this one shows the top 10% own 90% of the stocks.
Right?
So the populist Americans are getting crushed.
The top 10% own everything.
And this is all, this whole story is on top of the inflation pain.
You've already lost 20 to 30% of your retirement.
And you already know what's in your grocery basket right at home.
You've lost 20 to 30 percent due to inflation, and so that's it, Steve Harnwell.
All of this was play-called by Peter Navarro, Stephen K. Bannon, me, AJ, and Tony.
And we don't want to say we told you so, but President Trump is saying it this morning.
We told you if you ignore the fundamentals like this for long periods of time, this is where you end up.
ben harnwell
That was a magisterial synthesis on just what's going on in the economy right now.
And it's not what you're going to hear if you're tuning into MSNBC right now.
The important thing here, especially for the six swing states, but not only across the United States, when the economy does badly, just to make this point absolutely obvious.
When the economy does badly, it's not an abstract.
We're talking about jobs, we're talking about unemployment.
If you have a job, we're talking about how much you're actually going to be able to earn with that.
We're talking about inflation that hits, that reduces the spending power of what you earn.
All of these things are wrapped in with that.
And when the economy does badly, you suffer for it.
And that's why it's so important that, as Mark Mitchell said earlier, That Donald Trump is 25 points ahead now on the economy.
Dave Brack, where can people go to follow you, your analysis and the graphs that you produced earlier?
dave brat
Yeah, just Brad Economics on Getter and I'll be on again tomorrow.
You're doing a great job.
Ben Hardwell, thanks for the European and international coverage.
You're doing great.
ben harnwell
Dave Brack, God bless you.
Thanks very much.
unidentified
We'll tune in tomorrow and watch you tomorrow morning.
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Mike Davis, good morning to you.
Thanks for coming on the show today.
Last week, you will recall, we discussed the Biden regime's Supposed proposals and plans for reforming the Supreme Court, which I think we all.
Why what widely agreed was somewhat of a smokescreen to distract the news cycle from a lot of positive negative coverage going their direction.
However, there has been a response from the Supreme Court this morning, and Justice Neil Gorsuch himself issued a two word basically statement.
Be careful.
Be careful.
Can you just sort of recap what the situation is here and why these proposals were never going to go anywhere anyway?
mike davis
Justice Neil Gorsuch, my former boss, is releasing his new book today called Overruled, and so you can go buy it online now.
It's already very popular in the pre-orders, and let's make it a New York Times bestseller because Justice Gorsuch talks about the importance of the rule of law in this book, and in this book, He talks about how we have too many laws in this country, and we have laws that are even made up by administrative agencies, bureaucrats, not through our elected members of Congress, and it entraps and ensnares everyday Americans.
We talk in this book, he talks about fishermen in Florida, families in Montana, monks in Louisiana, a young internet entrepreneur in Massachusetts, how they try to navigate this legal maze and they get Tripped up in this system, and it's a system that's not fair.
It's not what our founders intended.
And the whole point of the Supreme Court of the United States is to protect real Americans in real America, everyday Americans, including unpopular Americans.
Justice Gorsuch talked about how popular Americans don't need independent judges.
They don't need judges with lifetime tenure and pay protection.
They don't need judges who have to worry about their next jobs, popular people.
For them, it doesn't matter.
It's the unpopular people among us who need independent judges.
And that's the point that Justice Gorsuch is making as he's promoting his new book called Overruled.
And the point is, is that we need an independent judiciary.
If we lose the independent judiciary, it's going to destroy our country, right?
The founders understood this very well when When we establish this country is to protect the judiciary is to is their their main job is to protect us from the government and that includes government's tyranny.
Anarchy, the failure of government with anarchy.
You saw this with Kamala Harris and Tim Walz during the BLM riots.
Tim Walz, the new VP Peck, the governor of Minnesota.
You had Kamala Harris bailing out BLM rioters and Tim Walz encouraging these BLM riots, even getting the Minneapolis mayor to criticize him.
And it's just, this is what happens when you have government tyranny, government anarchy, and that's why we need an independent judiciary, a strong independent judiciary.
ben harnwell
Can I just point out that the overruled—I think it's a play of words here.
It's two separate words, right?
Overruled, which I thought was a cute concept.
Yes, so we want an independent judiciary, but the Democrats' response to this, to the general politicization of the courts, not just at the Supreme Court but below it down, but I think Like a tide coming in also to the Supreme Court, certainly from Roe versus Wade onwards.
The Democrats' proposals with their rolling system of two appointments every presidential mandate, every four years for a Supreme Court, I think that you said, speculated would then have about 18 justices on it, not all sort of Yeah, make no mistake about this.
the same case any one time. It's quite confusing. But the but the upshot of that, Mike Davis,
is that would actually be an increasing pressure of politicization on America's highest court
at the very time that most people would like to see the debate de-escalating.
mike davis
Yeah, make no mistake about this. After President Biden and Kamala Harris tried to bankrupt Trump,
they tried to throw him in prison for life. They tried to simply take him off the ballot.
The Supreme Court of the United States stepped in and stopped This grotesque overreach by Biden and Kamala Harris.
So what was Biden and Kamala Harris's response?
They intentionally underfunded President Trump's Secret Service detail.
They denied several requests from Trump's Secret Service detail to beef up protection for American President Donald Trump, while Kamala Harris and Joe Biden beefed up Secret Service protection for Ukraine President Zelensky.
President Biden said to put a bullseye On Trump's head, and what did they think was going to happen?
And we saw what happened in Pennsylvania where President Trump almost had his head blown off on national TV when that failed to stop President Trump.
Now Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are trying to destroy the Supreme Court that stopped them.
This is tyrannical.
They talk about President Trump being a dictator.
You can't become a bigger dictator than what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are trying to do by trying to destroy the Supreme Court.
This is what happens in Marxist third world hellholes like Venezuela.
Maduro must be blushing down in Venezuela watching Joe Biden and Kamala Harris trying to destroy the Supreme Court that got in their way.
ben harnwell
Mike, thanks for coming on the show this morning.
Just one more time, if you would kindly, could you just flag up that book of your former boss once again for the war in posse?
mike davis
He's going to be very happy because I'm not getting a cut of this.
It's called Overruled by Neil Gorsuch, Justice Neil Gorsuch, along with my friend and former colleague, Janie Nitze, his former law clerk.
This is a powerful book.
It talks about how the law, our legal system is rigged against real Americans and real American.
You can order it today.
Go into any of your bookstores today.
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OK, let's quickly go, because we heard Dave Bratt just a few minutes ago with what I called a magisterial synthesis as he discussed the collapse in the markets, the collapse in the economy and what that actually means for real working Americans.
I hope you flagged up that there was someone talking who is in absolute command of the subject.
We're going to have a compare and contrast now.
Denver, if you wouldn't mind.
unidentified
What else are you going to do to fix this problem with inflation?
kamala harris
All right, thank you.
Well, let's start with this.
Prices have gone up, and families and individuals are dealing with the realities of that bread costs more, that gas costs more.
And we have to understand what that means.
That's about the cost of living going up.
That's about having to stress and stretch limited resources.
That's about a source of stress for families that is not only economic, but is on a daily level something that is a heavy weight to carry.
So it is something that we take very seriously.
Very seriously.
And we know from the history of this issue in the United States that when you see these prices go up, It has a direct impact on the quality of life for all people in our country.
So it's a big issue, and we take it seriously.
And it is a priority, therefore.
unidentified
Oh, my Lord.
ben harnwell
Compare and contrast with Dave Bratt.
That's all I can say.
On Getter, I call your vice president an incompetent cackling hyena.
Politics aside, you know, we do have Democrats, we do have progressives listening to the showtime, but let's put the debate, the rancor Just to one side for a moment.
That is the person that the Democrats have chosen to lead the nation and therefore also the economy for the next four years.
And that is, as Dave Buck was saying, we're talking about your job, your earnings, the purchasing power of your salary, your savings, your retirement.
In the hands of a woman who has literally zero idea, literally zero idea what she's talking about.
She even had to look at her notes on that.
She, in a 60 minute response, had no idea what she was saying.
And that is your future and your children's future and your grandchildren's future in the hands of a woman who has zero idea what she's talking about.
OK, Josh Hammer, Hammer time here on The War Room.
Josh Hammer, good morning to you.
Now, let's talk a little bit about, she's picked Tim Walz from Minnesota.
We'll have Mike Lindell on shortly to discuss the Minnesotan view on the governor there.
What's your first take on this?
However, do you think it's going to affect her standing in the polls?
Is this going to have a blip on her results right now?
How might this affect the dynamic in the campaign over the next four months?
Or might it not affect the campaign whatsoever?
josh hammer
Yeah, I think it's probably not going to have a massive effect in the polling.
That would be my best guess.
But to the extent that it will have an effect, I think it's going to hurt her.
I think that this is definitely an unforced error.
You won't necessarily see that in the national horse race polling, but you definitely will see when you start looking at the state by state.
Electoral college projections.
Look, she had a fairly perfect candidate to choose on paper in Josh Shapiro, the governor of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
He is very popular there in Pennsylvania.
I'm not saying he's a moderate guy.
He is not.
He is basically just as liberal as any of the rest of them, but he nonetheless has high favorabilities there.
He won statewide in 2022 over Doug Mastriano by a very large margin.
Pennsylvania In the 2024 election is really battleground ground zero.
So she had the perfect candidate there.
She's enrolling the candidate later today in Philadelphia, literally Josh Shapiro's hometown.
So my very first thought then is the fact that the hecklers veto from the Hamas Hezbollah wing of the Democratic Party seems to have worked.
The Democratic Party elites are terrified.
They are terrified of the keffiyeh-clad radicals in Dearborn, Michigan, the people protesting, chanting from the river to the sea, death to Jews, death to Christians, death to America, death to Western civilization.
They are terrified of their own radical left-wing base.
And the very key point here, I think that it's important for the war room posse here to understand, The Hamas Hezbollah wing that the Democratic elite has just capitulated to in not choosing Josh Shapiro, it's the exact same wing from the Black Lives Matter Antifa rioters there in the summer of 2020.
It's the exact same ring from the Women's March anarchists who vandalized and looted in Washington D.C.
the day after Trump's inauguration back in January 2017.
It was literally the first The Democratic Party at this point is essentially completely, completely in the thrall of, in the very maw of, in the throat of their far left street thug wing.
And it is appalling that we have reached this point.
But I think that the only explanation, Ben, because Tim Walz adds nothing to this ticket whatsoever from what I can tell, at least Josh Shapiro would have added something.
ben harnwell
Josh, I'll give you my take on this in two minutes after the break.
That's why she didn't go for Josh's pier.
kash patel
Government gangsters are the group of individuals, career bureaucrats, who have been installed by what we call the deep state into every agency and department in the United States government.
Had Donald Trump not won in 2016, he would not have exposed the flank of the deep state and their weapon of choice, the two-tier system of justice.
From Russiagate, to Hunter Biden's laptop, to Joe Biden's classified documents case, to January 6th, to the 51 Intel letter, and everything in between.
We would never have learned that.
These people are dangerous and vindictive, learning from their mistakes and perfecting ways to hide their corruption.
unidentified
It is finally time for a straightforward assessment of the state of our nation.
Welcome back.
ben harnwell
Josh, I'll tell you, I'll speculate the reason I think Kamala Harris didn't go for Josh Shapiro.
I think he's too ambitious, not too ambitious.
I think from her point of view, she's probably responding with a certain degree of weakness with regards to her own position, her own position vis-a-vis the Democratic Party post-November if she loses.
Josh is widely considered to be a pretty ambitious fellow, just as she is.
And I think, you know, I don't think Tim Walsh will talk to Mike Lindell, surely.
I don't think he's a man considered to be dripping with charisma.
So I think from her perspective, this is before the markets downturned and all the rest of it, from her reasoning, her perspective, Tim Walsh was a safe pick for her.
That didn't represent any threat.
josh hammer
Yeah, I think that's actually probably very well said, Ben.
I mean, look, you even had Josh Shapiro's own home state rival, John Fetterman, who was leaking.
I mean, he was so ostentatiously leaking, it frankly might as well have been an official PR release.
I mean, he might as well just have said, you know, Fetterman opposes Josh Shapiro because of allegations of ruthless ambition.
And, you know, the fact that Josh Shapiro, I mean, just on Friday at this press conference, did a total 180 on this op-ed that he wrote in college about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
He pulled a 180 on that.
He was just like, oh, I was 20 years old.
Who cares?
I mean, he's clearly someone who is willing to say and do anything just to advance his rise of the Democratic Party totem pole.
We saw that as well with school vouchers, which he allegedly supported and then came out opposed to after the teachers union said that they were opposed to it.
So he's a very ruthless career politician, no doubt about that, just as Gavin Newsom and so many of these others are.
Tim Walz is an attempt at a do-no-harm candidate.
Unfortunately for Democrats, Tim Walz did a lot of harm in the summer of 2020 when he was the arsonist, frankly, with the entire St.
George Floyd, you know, summer of love riots, those riots that spread nationwide
and to an extent even internationally in the summer of 2020,
they started right there, of course, in Minneapolis.
And Tim Walz was there all along, egging it on, doing absolutely nothing,
encouraging it, if anything.
So the Kamala Harris-Tim Walz ticket, Ben, if anything, this is the ticket
of the Black Lives Matter and TIFA riots of the summer of 2020.
It creates a golden opportunity, I think, for the Trump fans ticket to run
as the party of civilizational sanity and pro-law enforcement and law and order.
I, for one, personally hope that they run on that and take that opportunity.
ben harnwell
Yeah.
I'm always grateful for an opportunity on this show to bring up those riots,
those mostly peaceful protests.
Also, because it was a great illustration that the Feds did very little when the left was attacking government buildings, burning courthouses and all the rest of it.
And of course, the moment anything takes place in Washington, D.C.
versus the Temple of Democracy, then you see an absolutely different perspective.
And it's the same thing in the U.K.
right now, by the way, Josh.
I don't know if you're following this.
The riots are getting out of hand.
In the UK, you've got courts convening 24 hours a day, which is something, you know, because there are people coming out writing letters to the Times saying you need to have five-year sentences given straight away to all these protesters.
No one said a peep, of course, when we had our own equivalent of the BLM protests and you had statues being pulled down.
Not a peep.
Because obviously the left are allowed to come out and to protest against the government.
The right, they're never allowed to do that.
There's a fundamental inequality, which reminds me of something we heard in the very beginning of this show.
One MSNBC talking head coming out, saying that the threat about Donald Trump was that he might imprison his political opposition and hit them with tax audits.
And you're just thinking, is this just solely an exercise in gaslighting?
Or do they think that we're not appreciating the double standards here?
Of course, they're threatening Donald Trump, who never did any of these things in his first term.
They are accusing and fear-mongering that Donald Trump might do in a second term exactly what Joe Biden himself is doing and has done in his term.
And of course, there's no kickback from that.
OK, so so so you don't see a particular because obviously what we're interested in now in the next few days is whether there's going to be a blip in Kamala's fortunes.
You're you're you're not having appointed Tim Walz, the Minnesota governor, as her running mate.
So you're not foreseeing any particular movement on the needle with regards to this nomination.
This is important, I think, at least at this stage in the campaign.
josh hammer
Yeah, Ben, I would be absolutely shocked.
I mean, Tim Walz, you know, even for people like myself who cover this thing day in, day out, is a somewhat obscure politician.
He manages to fly largely under the radar.
Now, he's enacted a very transformative, progressive, left-wing agenda in Minnesota.
You know, he has a legislature that he basically fully controls.
You know, in many ways, he has done to Minnesota what some of the other conservative Right-wing governors across America have done to their states.
He has really kind of transformed Minnesota into a bastion of left-wing socialist anti-American values, but he's managed to do so in a way that somehow does not really get him a lot of attention.
I say that because I think his name ID is actually relatively low as far as all the people that Kamala Harris could have possibly chosen to be to be her running mate.
And I just don't see it.
I mean, I don't see what kind of boost this could possibly provide.
Minnesota is a state that has not voted for the Republican Party at the presidential level
in quite literally decades.
It is a very safe state there.
So maybe they takes it out of play.
I mean, maybe there was some chance that the JD Vance pick could have put it in play
for the Trump campaign.
But the much more important point is that this makes Pennsylvania very much in play
once again.
If they had actually picked Josh Shapiro, I do fear that have potential at least
to take Pennsylvania off the table.
That is clearly not the case now.
They are very much willing to capitulate to their Hamas wing at the expense
of keeping Pennsylvania in play.
I think it's a very dumb decision by them, but I know that I am personally happy for it.
ben harnwell
I'm looking forward to the vice presidential debates now I think J.D.
unidentified
Vance is going to wipe the floor with Tim Walsh.
ben harnwell
Senior Editor-at-Large for Newsweek, Josh Hammer, thanks for coming on the show.
Very quickly, 20 seconds, where can people go to keep up with your writings and your analysis?
josh hammer
Always a pleasure, thank you.
Yeah, I'm on Twitter, Josh underscore Hammer, Instagram is Josh B. Hammer, and I host two shows, America on Trial with Josh Hammer and then the Josh Hammer Show as well.
ben harnwell
Josh, thanks very much for coming on the show.
God bless.
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