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Episode 3808: WarRoom Special: Kamala Krash The Big Sell Off Cont.
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jason miller
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kari lake
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ben harnwell
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charlie kirk
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bill mcginley
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jake tapper
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peter mcilvenna
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scott bessent
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steve bannon
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
unidentified
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
jason miller
And we are back live in studio, War Room, episode three.
Or is this now 3809 as we go to the top?
3808.
Okay.
Thank you, Cam, our producer, for making sure that we're all set there.
We have some amazing guests coming up this hour.
We have the Scott Besant, one of the greatest economic geniuses out there.
We have Carrie Lake, one of our top Senate candidates.
We have Paul Perez, president of the Border Patrol Union.
Another fantastic we have still here in studio with me, Bill McGinley.
We're joined, we saw Peter McIlvenna from the Hearts of Oak podcast, Ben Hardwell.
And before we bring in Scott Besant and dive into the economics of the Kamala crash, which by the way, I do have to give credit where credit is due.
Scott Besant, way out ahead of the curve on this one.
I just saw that President Trump has now truthed out Kamala Krash and Trump Cash versus Kamala
Krash. So Scott, we're going to be doing a minute though.
But I want to make sure, Ben, can you pick up with where Peter left off as we talk about
this headline today in the Times of London, activists, hooligans, bored teens, who is on the
streets in London?
ben harnwell
OK, basically, the Brits are on the streets in London and across the United Kingdom.
My point here relates just as easily to the United States as to the UK, to any rare right.
Why do people riot like this?
unidentified
Why?
ben harnwell
For two principal reasons, and I don't include the BLM riots in this comparison.
That was just straight up looting.
Riots like what you're seeing in the UK now, ...happen because of exactly the same reason you might find violence in any personal relationship.
People feel humiliated, and they don't feel as if they've been listened to.
And if you do that long enough, people will respond beyond verbal means.
And that, I think, is what's happening in the UK now.
The British people do not feel as if they've been listened to, and they feel humiliated.
Look, I sent this photo through to Denver.
I wonder, Denver, if you'd kindly put it up as I'm talking.
Right.
There was palpable relief on behalf of Keir Starmer and the British establishment when the original tweet that set off these protests was proven to be wrong.
I think the lady who originally started... Peter, you might even know the name of this person, right?
The original tweet that set this off accused the murderer as being an asylum seeker, an illegal asylum seeker who came in on a boat.
And there's a palpable sense of relief, Jason, when it was discovered he's actually second generation.
He was born in the UK, from Rwandan asylum seekers.
That is totally to miss the point, whether this guy was born in the UK or whether he wasn't born in the UK.
The situation on the street in the UK is that there's, as is there across continental Europe, there is, and we saw Peter, I think we've spoken about this both on the Warren and on your own show, Similar protests going on in Ireland, right?
There is a crime epidemic across continental Europe and in the United States due to the fact of people not born in the country who come into the country.
That is the situation.
Whether this kid was born in the UK or not is actually immaterial.
My point is this, right?
And it's exactly the same thing as Ukraine.
Peter mentioned the fact that the courts are now going to be sitting 24 hours a day to try the protesters.
Our establishment is more interested in clamping down on protesters than it is in actually helping people.
What's the parallel when you kept Ukraine?
We piled in onto this war in Ukraine because our political leaders were more interested In the photo opportunities and defending democracy in the rule of law, supposedly, the actual plight of Ukrainians.
Our political leadership, there's a reason why we call these people sociopathic overlords, there is no end to the damage that they are prepared to do as long as they can get a photo opportunity, a conference and mouth the liberal progressive platitudes.
The actual damage Downstream of those policy decisions is never considered and in UK people have had enough of it.
This is the issue, right?
I'll close with this, Jason.
The British government, just exactly the same as the so-called Conservative government before it, is more interested in parading its signal-virtuing, its progressive virtues, than it is in protecting British citizens.
That's the issue here.
They trip over themselves to squash these protests, especially if they're right-wing thuggery.
They trip over themselves to suppress that.
The actual crime epidemic on the streets is not their concern.
They couldn't care less about it.
And that is why people don't feel that they've not been listened to and why they feel as if they've been humiliated.
The consequences of the protests are directly as a response to that.
And you see the same thing in Italy, where I am.
You see it across continental Europe.
And you see the same thing in the United States as well.
This is a consequence of an out-of-touch political establishment Shafting the people they are elected to serve.
jason miller
You know what, Ben, and that could apply just as well here in the United States with the complete tone deafness.
And now we have our own Border Czar as the Democrat nominee for president.
Before I bring in Scott Besson, Peter McIlvenna, by the way, I know you're in London.
They really could use you in Paris.
Your Irish are at number 14 in the complete Olympic medal count right now.
Not too great.
UK is about, I believe, they're in sixth place.
How do people find you?
What are your social media handles?
The Hearts of Oak podcast.
Where can people track you down?
peter mcilvenna
So we'll be later with Dr David Wood, an expert on Islam, and Calvin Robinson will be with us on Thursday discussing the riots that are happening.
You can find us obviously on War Room, on Rumble and Getter, and you can find us on heartsofoak.org is our website, and at heartsofoakuk on Twitter, heartsofoak on Truth, On Rumba, on Gab, on everywhere else.
So yeah, you can find us normally 3 p.m.
Eastern Time, Monday, Thursday and Saturday.
But tonight, Dr. David Wood on Islam and Thursday will be Calvin Robinson on the riots that are happening.
So please tune in and thank you.
jason miller
Thanks, brother.
Don't go swimming in the sand if you do decide to join the Olympics.
I want to bring in now Scott Besant, one of the biggest economic geniuses that I know.
Scott, you started blowing up my phone literally the day that the political coup went down and they brought in Kamala Harris.
And you said, and I should have saved, I probably did save the text message somewhere, but you're like, the market is going to crash.
Watch what happens with Kamala Harris in charge, the Kamala-nomics, the Biden-omics, and then, of course, now we see what's going on with the jobs report, everything in the Middle East.
Scott Besant, you called it first of everybody that I know.
Tell us why you knew right away that the Kamala crash was coming.
unidentified
Well, Jason, good morning.
And it was a couple of things.
As you'll remember, I was the one who originally called the Trump rally and leaving Milwaukee.
Everyone was in great spirits, and we were at peak Republican, peak Trump after that great week with the RNC, and we probably came out of there.
Republicans were going to win 35 or 40 House seats, 53 or 55 Senate seats, but it became one of those things where it was too good, and Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, Barack Obama, had to usurp democracy because they couldn't have a wipeout like that and replace President Biden with Kamala Harris.
And as she's moved up in the polls, I believe that the markets wouldn't like that.
They're not going to have two things.
One, that Four more years of these policies of spin, spin, spin, regulate inflation, crushing the bottom 50% of American households.
Now I think that's moving up to the 50th, 60th, 70th percentile.
And then the market being able to anchor on President Trump coming back on November 5th, Tax Cuts and Job Act, being extended or made permanent, deregulation, lower energy prices, as there's more uncertainty.
Jason, you know, and all your viewers know the market does not like uncertainty.
President Trump is certainty.
I say that a Trump 2.0 is forward guidance on competence.
A Harris Let's call it a Biden-Harris 2.0 is forward guidance on uncertainty and projecting weakness.
jason miller
So, to that point, Scott, I want to go right to this breaking news story out of Axios with the headline, Biden's Treasury Accused of Trying to Juice U.S.
Economy Pre-Election.
Now, we know that we've had this death spiral going on where Joe Biden says, I'm going to go and inject a whole bunch of stimulus money in.
Of course, then Janet Yellen says, hey, this is great and cheerleads it, even though the Janet Yellen of 10 years ago or 20 years ago would never go to This level of crazy town.
And then we see Powell say, well, hey, there might be rate cuts in the future.
I think we're promised, what, a half dozen this year?
Haven't had any so far.
So you have this spiral that continues to go.
But now that Biden's treasury is literally being called out, saying that they're trying to change the way how they finance government spending.
What's the real world ramification of that?
And would you see the markets already this jittery?
How is that going to impact things in the next five or six months here?
unidentified
Well, Jason, this has been going on since November, and I was actually one of the people who did the original shout-out back in November of accusing We hear lots of accusations that when there's a Trump 2.0, that there would be political interference with the Fed.
Well, the Biden-Harris administration has already done it.
Janet Yellen has used the Treasury to take over the Fed.
And for your viewers and listeners, What has happened is the strength of the U.S.
balance sheet is that we have long-term debt.
We have a mixture of short-term, medium-term, and long-term debt.
And if there is a pause in our ability to issue debt, whether it was during something like COVID, if there were a war, if there were a recession, it is an asset to have a multi-year funding schedule.
Janet Yellen and her treasury have done, they have shortened that schedule, which has the effect of goosing asset prices.
I said on War Room before, imagine a household that decided to use credit card debt to pay down its mortgage.
You have a 30-year mortgage and you know, Every month, what your payment is, and then you decide that you're going to go and take down a whole bunch of credit card debt and pay down your mortgage.
It makes no sense, other than in a political context of goosing the economy.
Now, my theory of the case here is that Secretary Yellen, who regrettably has gone Ten years ago, Secretary Yellen, then Chair Yellen, or Professor Yellen, never would have done this.
She has gone from a technocrat to a full-scale apparatchik, and it is not good for the U.S.
government.
It is not good for norms.
She gave a speech about eight, ten weeks ago in Arizona, talking about democracy on the line with the election.
She's been out campaigning with Josh Shapiro on behalf of Kamala Harris.
Like, you know, this is not normal.
And the Treasury assumes it wasn't normal.
jason miller
So what Scott want to jump in here because we have a minute left in this block.
unidentified
Let me just say is I think in trying to help the Democrats, she has actually caused a bigger
problem for them because she thought that she could gun the engine until November 5th.
And it looks like the tank is out of gas right now.
And we're going to go into an economic problem for the last three months of the campaign,
which is going to be a disaster for Harris and the Democrats.
to the next.
jason miller
So we only have about 30 seconds left, and Scott, I want to get real clear from you.
What is your biggest fear or biggest concern of what Kamala Harris, who now is running the country, is going to do to try to manipulate this election by manipulating government and our financial markets?
What are you most concerned that they try to do as a reflex to this this Joel?
unidentified
Secretary Yellen has an account at the Fed called the TGA.
I think she's going to roll that down.
I think.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
jason miller
And we are back at War Room.
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But we still have on the line Scott Besant, one of the biggest economic geniuses that I know,
founder of the Key Square Group, someone who called both the Trump rise, not only in 2016,
but the more recent the market spike because of President Trump. Scott Besant said it first
about the Kamala crash where President Trump just truth out twice actually within this last hour.
But Scott, I cut you off here in this last segment. I want to make sure that you're
making your point about what economic insecurity is leading to and why it matters for this election.
unidentified
So Jason, my worry here is the stock market is a leading indicator and about 50% of Americans own
stocks. So that will have an impact.
Yeah.
And impact on their wealth and their confidence.
scott bessent
But I'm really worried that the what we're seeing with the stock market and the economic weakness can move into real economic insecurity for all Americans.
unidentified
And we've seen the bottom 50 percent of wage earners have likely been in a recession for the last two years.
And if That starts moving up to the 60th percentile, the 70th percentile, the 80th percentile, and then the very rich stop spending because their stock portfolios are down.
scott bessent
We could really see a lot of economic insecurity in the fall, and that worries me a lot.
jason miller
Everybody follow Scott Besin.
Scott, what are your social media handles so people know where to follow you?
unidentified
Yep, come in through our firm email.
It's ir at keysq.com.
And I always love to hear from the war room listeners and viewers.
jason miller
Everyone in the posse be following Scott Besson.
He is a genius.
Thank you, Scott.
Bill McGinley, I know you have to jump.
Give us your particulars and thanks for joining us in this first hour.
unidentified
Thanks for having me.
bill mcginley
On X at WJ McGinley and on Getter at McGinley WJ.
jason miller
And we're going to be having you back.
I know a whole bunch more talk about the election, everything we're doing there to make sure that we have the election integrity on track.
And so Bill McGinley, you're doing a great job.
It is an outside counsel to the RNC.
Keep it up.
Thank you for being here.
I want to bring in now one of my absolute favorites.
Everyone knows how much I love Kerry Lake.
And if you haven't gone to CarrieLake.com today, please make sure to go and do so.
But we want to bring in U.S.
Senate candidate Carrie Lake from the great state of Arizona, who had the opportunity to be with us last week.
Carrie, how are you?
kari lake
I'm doing great.
We're working hard here on the ground in Arizona.
It's such a pivotal, important state for President Trump, obviously, but it's also an important state for the Senate race.
We've got a really great shot at winning this seat and making sure that we give President Trump the majority, which is going to be critical as we go in to clean up the mess caused by Biden and Kamala and my opponent, their favorite Congressman Ruben Gallego.
jason miller
So, Kerry, you've actually launched, it's a movement in Arizona.
You're not even just simply a candidate for Senate in Arizona.
One of the key reasons why we're going to get the majority back in the Senate.
But I was with you in Glendale, Arizona, this last week at a rally that you were speaking at.
And it was basically at a presidential level reception.
It was phenomenal.
And you can tell just The warmth and the love there.
But as you're waking up this morning and you're seeing what happened Friday with the stock market, or excuse me, with the jobs report.
Waking up this morning, we're seeing the international markets are going haywire.
We're seeing what's happening with the Middle East being brought to the precipice of all-out war.
How is that impacting, and Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket, how is that impacting your race and the people that you're talking to to say, the economy's going to hell and we're potentially heading into World War III?
kari lake
I mean, it's the worst of all things, kind of a culmination of the worst of all things that could happen.
And this is what happens when you allow two people who are not intelligent, don't know what they're doing as president and vice president to sit in the White House.
And this is exactly what happens.
We need competency, not incompetency and corruption.
We need actually people who love this country.
And we've watched as Biden and Kamala have done everything wrong.
I can't think of anything they've done right.
And so this is all of the decisions they've made, the policies they've rolled out, that have been rubber stamped, by the way, by the man I'm running against, Ruben Gallego.
He looks at Biden and Kamala and thinks they're 100% right.
And we just aired a new ad where it's true, he has voted with them 100% of the time.
So he looks at their open borders policy and says, wow, that's great.
He looks at their economy and their economic policies and thinks it's great.
He looks at their warmongering and foreign policy and thinks it's great.
He has literally voted with Kamala 100% of the time.
That's why it's so critical that we don't let him anywhere near the US Senate.
But you talked about it a little bit earlier that they're fudging the economic numbers.
They're fudging about when it comes to Joe Biden's health and all of that.
They've been lying about Kamala Harris.
And now they're trying to scrub the internet and say that she's no longer the Borders are
and she never was, and they know that she is the Borders are
and is responsible for what's happening at the border.
They're trying to fudge her poll numbers.
All they do is lie to try to bolster this failed administration that is destroying our country.
And I woke up this morning, Jason, I was paying attention last night before I went to bed to some of the overseas markets.
And I woke up this morning, so I wasn't shocked by what I saw.
But this is horrifying.
Let me tell you, we have a huge number of retirees here in Arizona because it used to be an affordable state before people like Ruben Gallego got into office and started doing terrible votes and destroying our economy and spending so much and getting us into huge debt.
But the retirees in Arizona are already in a panic.
Many of them have told me on the course of this campaign that they cannot afford living under Social Security or even their 401k anymore and they're having to go to the food bank every week just to be able to put food on the table.
If this continues to happen, if Kamala Harris continues to destroy our economy with her enabler friend Ruben Gallego and flatten these retirement accounts and flatten people's retirement savings, we are in for a really rocky road ahead.
And it's imperative that we all jump in, get President Trump elected, get people like me in the U.S.
Senate, and we will go in there and turn this thing around.
jason miller
You know, and Carrie, as you were saying that, I saw something pop up on the Twitter machine on my phone with a very prominent mainstream media journalist who just tweeted out, I am not confident I would even know how to check my 401k, even if I wanted to.
When you talk about the economic insecurity that's going on... Wait a minute.
kari lake
This is a mainstream media person.
They don't know how to check their balance on their 401k.
I'm not surprised.
I'm not surprised.
They've been lying to us about a lot of things.
jason miller
I know, and I wasn't going to say names, but it's Steph Kite at Axios said, I'm not confident I would know how to check my 401k even if I wanted to.
But the short answer, Steph, is that you probably don't want to look at it right now because the Dow is down a thousand points already.
But, you know, Kerry, this is one of the things where I'm always impressed by your brilliance as a communicator.
When we talk about states like Arizona with so many people who are on these fixed incomes, whether they're seniors, whether they're people who are in the gig economy doing two, three different jobs to try to pull it together, what we've seen with the inflation, except for when Biden and Kamala Harris have said, don't worry, you have cash in your pocket.
but this, the direct impact of their policies, whether it be allowing in all the illegals
to artificially inflate the markets, we've seen housing prices go up,
we've seen with Biden cutting off energy production and pumping in a bunch of stimulus cash,
then inflation goes up even more and more.
We see people here, as you've talked about, cashing out their 401ks simply to get by every month
as a retiree.
Now they're seeing that stock market start to crash.
The economic insecurity rise up.
This is why it is so important that we get Republicans back in the Senate,
we get President Trump back in the White House.
What is your concern as you're talking to people?
What are you hearing that people are worried that Kamala Harris, now that she's in charge, might do over the next few months here?
kari lake
It's a huge fear.
I mean, I'll never forget Jason, a woman who I met a few months ago.
Her husband had died earlier in the year.
She said they did everything right.
He worked hard.
They saved.
They've been enjoying their retirement.
She was turning 80 years old.
And she said now she's a widow and she's looking at what they have left because this economy has been so difficult.
And she had tears in her eyes and she said, I think I'm going to have to go and find a job.
And with tears in her eyes, she said, but who's going to want to hire an 80 year old?
I get emotional thinking about it.
She shouldn't have to go back to work at 80.
We shouldn't have to see 80 unless they want to.
I mean, there's some people who want to work, but at 80, you shouldn't feel like you have to go back to work and wonder if anybody will hire you so that you can enjoy your golden years.
And this is what is wrong with these disastrous policies of the Democrats.
I don't care who you plug in.
They can pick anybody they want and put them in those roles.
The policies just don't work for Americans.
They're devastating to our economy.
They're devastating to our lives.
They're devastating to our safety and security with this wide open border.
Kamala's been to Arizona several times.
She's never been to our border.
The borders are, has never been to our border.
She's come to Arizona on numerous occasions.
She's the worst vice president we've ever had, the most incompetent.
And she's coming here to stump for the most incompetent congressman And the most far-left and liberal congressman who's now wanting to run for the U.S.
Senate against me.
This is a guy in Ruben Gallego, by the way, who, as I said, has rubber-stamped everything that Biden and Kamala have wanted to do, and that's why we're in this spiraling downward.
But he's also a congressman in Arizona, downtown Phoenix, the fastest-growing homeless population in the country.
It's not in Skid Row.
It's not in San Francisco or Portland.
It's right there in Ruben Gallego's district.
And these are homeless vets living on the street.
He is a disaster for his district.
He will be a disaster for our state.
She's coming here to stump for him.
She's coming here to talk about abortion, but she doesn't want to talk about the border that she and Joe Biden tore open and created this absolute invasion in our country that we, the people, the taxpaying citizens are paying for.
We're footing the bill and we're watching 10 or 12 million people pour in.
They're driving up the cost of our housing.
That's why rents have doubled.
That's why the cost of everything is going up.
And also, we're footing the bill for all of this and they're, you know, a lot of them are getting, you know, food stamps and things like that.
This is outrageous.
The people have had enough.
Our backs are breaking and we can't take, we can barely take three more months of these guys.
jason miller
Carrie, go ahead and give us the website, how to track you.
I'm sure everyone's already following you, but give us that info so people can want to reach out and be supportive, can do so.
kari lake
Thank you, Jason.
unidentified
CarrieLake.com, and you can find me on Twitter, Getter, Facebook, all of the social media, including True Social.
kari lake
Thank you so much.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
jason miller
And we are back.
Jason Miller helping out with the War Room team today.
Of course, no one can fill Steve Bannon's shoes.
I'm going to do my best to at least keep the show moving here.
We've had some great guests.
We've had Carrie Lake.
We've had Scott Besson.
We've had Bill McGinley.
We've had Peter Malkovina.
This thing has been, of course, the Ben Harnwell.
This has been just A-listers all the way through.
And we have another A-lister coming up in a moment.
But I want to make sure to table set that we don't lose sight of the big prize of what's going on today.
If you wake up this morning, if you're watching Morning Joe and Mike, they're talking about RFK Jr.
and some bear carcass and all this nonsense in Central Park.
And we're seeing the media speculate, just fawning all over Kamala Harris, what she's going to do.
But after this jobs report on Friday.
After we see the threats from Iran to attack Israel, the U.S.
saying that they're sending in more troops and more deployments into the region, Joe Biden meeting today with his Security Council in the Situation Room.
We are on the verge of all-out war.
In the Middle East, the markets are crashing.
It is causing a real affordability crisis, a crisis in economic confidence.
And all of this is before we even get to the fact that now Democrats have made the borders are.
That's right.
10, 15, 20 million illegals later, the borders are Kamala Harris, their nominee for president.
As we find out, ever since that debate with President Trump, when Joe Biden was was knocked out, politically speaking, Kamala Harris is really the one running the country.
So on that note, I want to go ahead and bring in Paul Perez, who I had the chance to spend part of last week with at the border.
He's the president of the National Border Patrol Council.
He knows more about everything happening at the border than just about anyone in the entire country.
Paul, how are you?
unidentified
I'm doing good.
How are you, Jason?
It was good to see you last week.
Good to see you again.
jason miller
Good.
Well, thank you very much.
So we had quite an experience there with Senator Vance when we were at the border in the Arizona-Mexico border last week.
And I want to go back to a moment where we started hearing the helicopters overhead.
And I assume that's part of the surveillance.
Obviously, you're the one who would know the exact mechanisms.
But we had the drones that were flying around.
It seemed like there was a lot of activity.
I remember asking one of the Secret Service agents, hey, is something happening?
And they said that there was a caravan that was approaching the fence about a mile away.
And as soon as they saw the helicopters and the drones, they'd hunker down and they'd
just wait until the commotion goes away.
But to me, as someone who is not frequently at the borders, obviously seeing the impact
of it but not dealing with it on a day-to-day basis the way that you and so many of our
good men and women in the Border Patrol Union are.
But take us to what that looks like on a daily basis for the people trying to keep us safe
in the absolute invasion that's happening on our southern border.
unidentified
you Sure, absolutely.
So as you well know everybody in this country knows the chaos that's going on at the border no matter how hard Borders are Harris and Sleepy Joe try to change everybody's minds about what they've done so far on the border.
It is chaos every day.
So what we saw there, we had the helicopters from CBP that were flying over, we had the drones, and so what will happen in that area specifically—this is what I told Senator Vance—we were in a cartel-controlled area.
The cartels have taken control of the border because borders are Harris and Biden have allowed them to.
Under President Trump, these kinds of things weren't happening.
We had agents out there.
You would have seen agents out there along the line working that area because of what was happening on the South Side.
So we've got the technology that will let us know what's coming up, and in this case, groups that were coming up.
These are not groups.
The reason they're hunkering down, these are not groups that are looking to turn themselves in.
These are what will eventually be known as gotaways.
And under this administration, we've had untold number of gotaways in the millions.
And that is what scares everybody.
That's what scares us because we don't know who these people are.
These are not the people that are turning themselves in.
These are the people that are actively, actively evading apprehension.
And so we need those people out there.
We need the helicopters.
We need the drones.
We need our agents out there instead of what we've got right now, which is our agents having to go out there and process people so that we can release them into this country by the millions.
And so that is what was going on down there.
That area is controlled by the cartels.
They've made billions of dollars under this administration because we have not been allowed to do our job down on the border.
jason miller
So I want to make sure to stick the landing on this point there.
So you're saying that in that territory, right on the other side of the U.S.-Mexico border, the cartels are in control of the border.
This is not a matter of U.S.
government and Mexican government negotiating and figuring out terms and how we're going to go and deal with this, that the cartels are effectively running the border on the Mexico side as we speak.
They're in control.
unidentified
Absolutely.
And they've upped their game under this administration.
There was an article that came out where the Mexican military was admitting, they finally admitted that the cartel was killing their soldiers with drones.
They were dropping bombs with drones, IEDs.
They've been using that kind of warfare on the military and the police for years.
But the Mexican military is just now admitting that they are using drones.
The cartel is using drones against their military, and they've killed a few people, they've injured several, and that's what's going on.
When you allow the cartels to make the amount of money that they're making because we're not doing our job down on the border, the federal government's not doing what they should be doing to control these cartels, to eliminate the cartels, like President Trump said he will do.
We believe he will do it.
We know he will do it.
One thing about President Trump is he means what he says.
He follows through.
The world respects President Trump because they know he is going to do what he says.
And right now the cartels are running rampant and they are absolutely destroying Mexico.
jason miller
You know, Paul, I always say that everybody is doing worse off under this Biden-Harris, or now I should say Harris-Biden economy.
I guess I got to take that back because clearly the cartels are doing better.
As we go back to 2020, when we talk about what Joe Biden was saying from that debate stage in the Democrat primary, saying, effectively, if you can get here to the U.S., we are going to have amnesty.
We're going to legalize you.
Kamala Harris, of course, during that same campaign was saying that she wanted to decriminalize Illegally entering the United States and so basically the message that was sent it was a signal flare heard not just around the hemisphere but around the entire world that if you can get into the United States that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are going to keep you here.
What is your big concern, Paul, with what Kamala Harris could do over these next few months with regard to being the borders are and effectively running the United States since Joe Biden, he's clearly not in charge.
And what is your number one fear that, heaven forbid, if Kamala Harris ever officially became the president of the United States, what she could do to the border in this chaos that we're seeing right now?
unidentified
I believe she's going to be worse.
She's going to be far worse.
Look, the most important task that Joe Biden had was to protect America.
He turned that over to Borders R. Harris.
He gave her a job responsibility to take care of the border, and she failed miserably.
She's running from that record so hard.
They're putting so much effort into claiming that she was not the Borders are because she knows that she cannot own it because she fell miserably and she has to own it.
Everybody knew that she was the Borders are.
Whatever it is she was supposed to do, she did not do.
And now she's claiming, hey, you know what?
I was never in the borders.
Okay, well then what was it that President Biden tasked you with?
Because whatever it was he tasked you with, you felt miserably.
What I think she's going to do in her next four years, if she were unfortunately to win the presidency, is open the borders even more.
Most people think, hey, how would they do that?
Well, They've given the blueprint for it.
They're going to bring more people in.
The amount of people that they've allowed that we've released into this country have hearing dates from eight, nine to 10 years from now.
They're not going anywhere.
They're going to bring more people.
The population of the United States is 333 million, 336 million, somewhere around there.
It's almost as if they will not quit until Americans are the minority in America.
And if the Democrats had the opportunity— Just real quick, Paul.
jason miller
Let me just jump in just real quick.
How long did you say those waiting times are?
unidentified
Eight, nine, or 10 years for them to get to their hearing dates.
Those are hearing dates that they're not going to attend anyway because they know they don't qualify for asylum.
We've allowed them to stay here and we're going to allow them to remain.
It's going to take President Trump to round everybody up and send everybody home because in eight, nine, or 10 years, right now, that's the backlog.
If Kamala Harris comes into power, that backlog is going to go even further.
jason miller
I don't even know what to say to that.
Eight, nine, or ten years.
At that point, people have, they've had families or some of the super bad actors that are coming in.
We know they're, and correct me if I'm wrong, Paul, somewhere in the 250,000 to 300,000 at least Chinese nationals who've entered the United States.
So this is not just, as you told me when I saw you last week, this isn't some issue just with Central America.
This isn't just an issue with South America.
We do, as President Trump says, We have people coming from Africa, from Asia, from countries that we've never even heard of or languages that nobody at Border Patrol or anywhere is going to be equipped to speak because they're so rare.
This is where we're being flooded from.
And, you know, I'm old enough, Paul, to remember that just before that presidential debate, when Joe Biden went off to the woods, that log cabin in the woods for 10 days to go and prep for the debate where President Trump smoked him at.
And we had 55 ISIS agents.
Who were ISIS terrorists who are running around the United States.
What is, as you look at this new wave of the changing dynamics of illegal immigrants into the United States, what scares you the most, whether it be demographic or ideological or extreme radical environment that these people are coming from?
And once they're here in the U.S., what should we be scared about?
unidentified
What scares me the most is the unknowns.
We have known gotaways, and we've had almost 2 million known gotaways.
The unknown is what scares me.
So known gotaways are those that we can actually track with sensors, with cameras that we're not able to apprehend, that they got away.
The unknown gotaways is what scares me because those are the people that are making an effort to avoid detection, to avoid apprehension, and go
into this country. These are the criminal aliens. And we've
caught criminal aliens. We've got many of those that we've apprehended and deported. But those that have gotten away,
that's what makes me afraid for this country, because those are
the people that we just don't know what their intent is to be
here in this country.
It's not like in the old days when people used to say, hey, you know what, these people are coming to make a better life for themselves.
No, we're beyond that.
We've got criminals.
We've got gang members.
We've got the Venezuelan gangs that are terrorizing our communities, terrorizing this country, and they are far worse than MS-13.
They will probably battle each other for who is the worst, but those are the types of people that we're allowing into the country because we are not doing what we should be doing because of Borders Are Harris and her open borders policy because of Biden and what they've said.
So that's what scares me—the amount of people from different countries.
We've got over 150 countries that we've apprehended people from, and that's scary because we have no way of vetting them.
We have the information that those...
jason miller
So, Paul, we have about a minute left in the block here.
So President Trump, everything goes right, wins on November 5th, January 20th, 12.01 p.m.
in 2025.
He'll be sworn in as president.
We're gonna have a desk right there, right next to the swearing-in, right there on the Capitol steps.
What is the number one top thing that you want President Trump to sign to secure our border and go and actually allow folks like you to do your job?
What is it that you want President Trump to put back in action?
unidentified
Remain in Mexico.
Remain in Mexico worked.
That's the blueprint that Borders Are Harris should have followed, and that will allow us to eliminate the false claims by people coming in claiming asylum.
The asylum system needs to be reformed.
That is what's going to help us.
Remain in Mexico is the most important policy, besides all the other policies that he put in place to shut the border down the first time.
That is going to help.
jason miller
And Paul, excellent. And make sure everyone knows how to track you down, what are your social media handles,
how can we follow more about what the National Border Patrol Council is doing?
unidentified
At the Union, you can follow social media handles.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
jason miller
All right, you are back in the war room.
Thank you for tuning in.
Very action-packed day, talking about the chaos that we're seeing in the financial markets, the Middle East moving towards all-out war, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris behind all of it.
Very scary times.
A couple of all-stars that we want to close out the show with today.
First, want to bring in Charlie Kirk, someone who really needs no introduction, of course, Turning Point and a host of his own successful podcast and show.
Charlie, you're one of my favorite people to follow in politics.
I've known you for a long time.
I was in the room with you and J.D.
Vance in Glendale, Arizona just this past week.
Tell us what you saw.
You've been a big fan of J.D.
Vance's for a long time.
You were saying how great he was going to be, and the speech that I saw J.D.
Vance give, I thought was phenomenal.
He has hit his stride, hit his mark.
You've been right on this point with J.D.
Vance.
What is it that you saw?
charlie kirk
He's a rock star, and he's one of the greatest political talents that we have in the conservative movement.
First of all, I came to the rally about an hour before it started, and there were at least 2,000 people, Jason, that were not able to get in.
2,000 people.
We could have filled a 3,000 to 4,000 person auditorium.
In fact, I have some video that I put on social of the long lines that were waiting to go into the JD Vance event, and it was 108 degrees outside.
In fact, that's something I think that the media needs to start covering, which is that JD Vance is Putting forward events that are over capacity.
He is not the nominee.
He is the vice president.
The grassroots of the conservative movement love J.D.
Vance.
He's really hitting his stride.
He is a phenomenal talent, but most importantly, he's able to communicate to the forgotten men and women of this country because he once was a forgotten young man of this country.
J.D.
Vance understands what it is, what it means to revitalize the American heartland.
He speaks very well to western Pennsylvania and southern Michigan.
I think he's going to camp out there getting closer and closer to the election.
The media hates JD Vance because they know what JD Vance represents.
And forget all the media noise.
Do you know that nearly a million people have purchased Hillbilly Elegy since he has become the vice presidential selection?
Do you know that Hillbilly Elegy is still nearly the number one movie on Netflix since he was selected as vice president?
That is a subterranean cultural indicator that people are consuming the story of JD Vance.
Over a million people purchased the book.
Think about how many swing voters there are.
Think about the force-multiplying effect of that.
That is remarkable.
It is deep.
It's profound.
The more people learn about JD Vance, the more they like him.
jason miller
Charlie, you're, of everyone in politics, you're one of the biggest geniuses when it comes to turning out and mobilizing young voters, of helping to communicate our messages, our ideals to the younger voters.
As we're seeing this economic uncertainty, as we're seeing this Kamala stock market crash, we're seeing everything that the Bidenomics are now, Kamala-nomics, is really coming into view.
What are you telling younger voters how this is going to impact their lives and why it's so important to get behind President Trump?
charlie kirk
Yeah, I mean, if you thought it was hard to own a home before, just how about now, when any wealth you might have stored is getting deteriorated?
We're in a very, very difficult economic situation right now, and it's terrible for young people.
Only President Trump is equipped and poised to be able to lead that kind of economic resurgence.
We have seen the three M's, which is being able to get a mortgage, get married, and be able to mate or have children.
Those three things are increasingly out of reach for young people.
I have so much compassion for the next generation because they've been filled with these socialist left-wing ideas and they don't own anything and they are not happy.
And so what we have to put forward is an alternative agenda, which President Trump is doing so well, saying we are going to build new homes, we are going to make it that the social contract remains unbroken, that you are going to be able to have a mortgage, you're able to get married.
Right now, Kamala Harris, she wants to create a nation of renters.
She wants it so that you never have equity in a home, that you do not own a car, that you're renting some scooter going around, you know, to the local vegan smoothie shop.
Donald Trump wants to revitalize the backbone of this great nation and doing so with the younger generation.
And so that's the message that I'm putting forward.
When Donald Trump left office, the annual income that was required to own A single family home with $75,000 a year.
Now it requires $130,000 a year to be able to own a single family home.
And then we see what's going on in the markets.
The Fed doesn't know what they're doing with interest rates.
Total economic calamity.
If the younger generation wants to be rich like their parents, they have to vote Trump.
jason miller
And that's even if they can get the loan in the first place.
Charlie, how does everyone track you down on social media?
How do they follow all of the shows?
Tell people how to track you.
charlie kirk
Yeah, we're going live right here on Real America's Voice in about five minutes, so we'll see you guys there.
And get involved.
Find new voters.
Go to Turning Point Action.
That's tpaction.com.
Get engaged.
Get involved.
Register new voters.
That is the mandate this August.
We are going to turn this election into a big favorable thing, even though they launched a coup against Biden and put in Kamala Harris.
Thanks, Jason.
Great job.
Thank you.
jason miller
Charlie, you're the man.
By the way, I always forget how tall he is.
This guy is tall.
He's not quite like Barron Trump height, but Charlie's a tall guy, so thank you.
I want to bring in next, a man who also does not need an introduction, but Mike Lindell, who had the opportunity to see in Minneapolis just, I say a week ago, because we were discussing off-air.
It feels like a year ago.
Mike, how are you?
unidentified
I'm doing great, and yeah, what a great rally in Minnesota and St.
Cloud there.
We had, I think, 20-some thousand people waiting outside.
I mean, and the big screens were out there.
At least they got to watch everything, and what an amazing rally.
It just goes to show you, Minnesota is finally going to be red this fall.
jason miller
So, Mike, as we talk about one of the Dark Horse VP picks for Kamala Harris, it's Governor Tim Walz.
Do you think there's any chance that Walz is ultimately going to be Kamala Harris' pick?
unidentified
Well, if it gets rid of him as our governor and they lose, that'd be great.
He's horrible.
But it's very possible that he would be a pick.
Remember, he was responsible, him and the mayor of Minneapolis, for all the fires and the burning down of our city there.
And just a terrible, terrible governor.
But many other states would argue they have the worst governor, but I would say we're right up there in the top echelon.
I would say that he very much could be picked.
I think that they're going to do anything they can to convince the public and brainwash them that Kamala could win.
And that's their whole game that they're playing.
And then you see that in the stock market.
They're all going, hey, what if she did win?
And so I think it's all people just got to stick to the fact that Donald Trump is going to win.
He's up in the polls and anything they do to steal the election, they're going to get caught.
This time around, the public's not going to tolerate anything like that.
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