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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies. | |
Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
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The people have had a belly full of it. | |
I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
It's going to happen. | ||
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
MAGA Media. | ||
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
My fellow Americans out there, I'm delighted to be sitting in the chair that will be filled | ||
again with Steve Bannon sometime soon, we know. | ||
We are sitting here on the 31st of July in the year of our Lord, 2024, and here we are at War Room. | ||
And indeed, it is an honor and a privilege to be here. | ||
I want to start with a word from our Lord, Galatians 6. | ||
Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. | ||
For if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. | ||
Do not be deceived. | ||
God is not mocked. | ||
For whatever one sows, that will he also reap. | ||
For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. | ||
And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap if we do not give up. | ||
I say this in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. | ||
We're all praying for Steve. | ||
We're all frankly honored that he is willing to do what he is doing for this great country and for the freedom that it is supposed to represent. | ||
And what I want to talk about today, when I again am honored to be sitting in this chair, is the extent to which you have a war not just on the political world and the Republicans versus Democrats, it's a war on our way of life, a war on Western civilization, a war on the West. | ||
Right now, in this country, we have literal political prisoners. | ||
These are things you would not actually have believed if you were to ask me 20 or 40 or 60 years ago. | ||
Obviously, we have Steve, who's defying the corruption of the congressional subpoenas with an unwarranted process in the committee that was made up out of whole cloth and didn't have the power to execute what it said it had the power to do. | ||
And Steve is appropriately pushing back, sentenced to four months in prison. | ||
You have Peter Navarro, who was sentenced to prison and obviously came back out literally the day that he came out. | ||
He went down to Milwaukee and addressed the American people at the Republican Convention. | ||
You have Dr. Ethan Haim. | ||
The Department of Justice is prosecuting this whistleblower for alleging Texas Children's Hospital is committing illegal gender treatment. | ||
So you have a whistleblower Who is daring to say that we shouldn't have these hospitals conducting this ridiculous attack on children, and now he's being charged by the Department of Justice and facing up to 10 years in prison and $250,000 in fines. | ||
You have Scott Smith in Loudoun County, which is where I happen to grow up, and I've become friends with Scott Smith, expressed his frustration at a school board meeting after his daughter had been raped in a bathroom in a public school, and there was no consequences for it, and yet he was the one being charged with the crime. | ||
He had to be pardoned by Governor Glenn Youngkin in Virginia to avoid being targeted by the local Commonwealth's attorney in corrupt, leftist, Democratic stronghold Loudoun County. | ||
Paulette Harlow, 75-year-old grandmother convicted under the FACE Act for praying at an abortion clinic. | ||
Now, she will acknowledge that she probably committed a misdemeanor type offense in blocking the entrance at an abortion clinic, but she's been sentenced to two years in prison. | ||
Two years in prison by the federal prosecution and the use of the power of the FBI and the Department of Justice. | ||
Now, I'm a former Assistant United States Attorney. | ||
You have to use judgment. | ||
You don't go put a 75-year-old grandmother in prison for two years. | ||
She has to report to prison in Texas, I believe, this week or next week. | ||
Mark Halk, a Catholic dad whose home was raided by the FBI for allegedly violating the FACE Act. | ||
He was sentenced. | ||
He tried and he won that case. | ||
The jury kicked it out. | ||
But it should never have gone to trial. | ||
The local prosecutors in Pennsylvania wouldn't even go down that road. | ||
Lauren Handy, a 30-year-old progressive anti-abortion activist, prosecuted by the FACE Act, sentenced to five years in prison. | ||
In Tennessee, 11 individuals sentenced for these kinds of things with respect to the FACE Act who are facing jail time. | ||
I could go down dozens of these examples. | ||
The fact is, there is a concerted effort to carry out a war against the American people and against our way of life, not just in America, but in Israel and other places around the world where Western civilization is under attack. | ||
We saw it at the Olympics. | ||
We saw it at the mocking of our Lord with respect to the Lord's Sufferer. | ||
These are unconscionable acts and that just a mere few years ago, Chip, I'm with you. | ||
been no debate that this was an attack on our way of life. | ||
But today you have radical progressive Democrats who are not only turning a | ||
blind eye, more importantly, they're actively pursuing it. That's why we've | ||
got my good friend Josh Hammer with Newsweek, a great friend, good man, a | ||
great patriot, and he's joining the show today. We have Josh. Chip, I'm with you. | ||
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That was a heck of a monologue. Well Josh, great to have you on the show, my | |
brother. | ||
Thank you for all that you do. | ||
And look, you and I have talked about this. | ||
We're friends, for those listening. | ||
Josh and I go way back. | ||
Josh is a smart lawyer, a smarter lawyer than I am. | ||
He clerked in the Fifth Circuit. | ||
I was the first assistant attorney general in Texas. | ||
We have a lot of mutual friends. | ||
But Josh has talked a lot about this, and he can, I think, articulate, and I don't want to fill up his time, what I'm trying to get at here with this attack on our way of life, the war on the West, and how that's being carried out against us. | ||
Yeah, Chip, you really touched on a lot of very crucial themes there. | ||
And, you know, we are not in a political struggle, so to speak. | ||
You know, I was privileged to join the 50th anniversary gala for the Heritage Foundation a couple years ago. | ||
It was April 2020. | ||
No, it was last year, April 2023. | ||
And Tucker Carlson was the keynote speaker. | ||
It actually was the weekend right before Fox News let him go. | ||
And he devoted his keynote speech to pressing this very theme. | ||
Now, we are not in necessarily a battle of white papers anymore. | ||
We are not in kind of a competition where the best think tank white paper wins. | ||
We are not in kind of a near public policy battle royale where we are quibbling over what the top corporate tax rate should be and how to better balance that off with the child tax credit. | ||
Look, these policy issues matter, obviously. | ||
I'm not pretending that tax rate, child tax credit, I'm not pretending these issues don't matter. | ||
Rather, The broader point, which is what Tucker made, what you made, and what I'm making here, is that we're not just in a public policy battle. | ||
We are in something of a theological, almost civilizational, cultural struggle here. | ||
And it is a cold civil war, but it at times gets fairly hot. | ||
I mean, you at times see outbursts of it, such as the Women's March the day after Trump was inaugurated in January 2017. | ||
Such as the street thugs of the Antifa Black Lives Matter movement, of course, in the summer of love there in 2020 with the Hamas, Kafia-clad jihadis. | ||
All of these are kind of outbursts, paroxysms of rage from this theological struggle coming from the left. | ||
And what they are trying to do, Chip, which you alluded to quite aptly, I would say, is they are trying to do nothing less than to ultimately displace What we today call Western civilization. | ||
So from that perspective, everything that's going on right now actually makes sense. | ||
From that perspective, the left-wing assault, this Joe Biden-Kamala Harris assault on the U.S. | ||
Supreme Court is but one of many vectors of their broader attempt to destroy all that we hold dear in this country. | ||
It is a direct assault on the separation of powers as Hamilton, Madison, John Jay, the Federalist Papers, writers, the Constitutional Framers, as all of them devised it. | ||
For that matter, they are siding with the avowed enemies of Western civilization. | ||
They are out there on social media this morning, literally mourning, literally mourning the death | ||
of Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas political chief who has not just Israeli blood on his hands, | ||
but all sorts of American, Western, Christian, Jewish, you name it, blood on his hands. | ||
They are out there openly siding with our enemies because they want to destroy us, Chip, | ||
whether it is from within or whether it is from beyond. | ||
But you have to first understand again, this key point, which you clearly understand that we are not merely here | ||
in a public policy battle. | ||
We are in a battle essentially for the very soul, the very soul, not merely of the United States of America, | ||
the country that you and I hold dear, but broader Western civilization as well. | ||
you Well, Josh, I appreciate that, and I couldn't agree more. | ||
One thing I want you to expand on just for one second, right? | ||
We hear a lot about this criticism, and you'll hear it from establishment Republicans, uniparty Republicans, who have been a part of destroying our way of life, frankly, just as much as Democrats over the last three or four decades. | ||
They just do it with a smile on their face, and then they go campaign and pretend they're conservatives. | ||
But that group of people has been somewhat critical of what some might describe as, quote, the new right. | ||
And it's interesting, right, for people like you and me, right, who are people who are steeped in the law, went to law school, steeped in our founding principles, believe in institutions, believe that we should stand and build around those institutions, believe that we want to avoid, you know, a populist uprising that ends up in a kind of a revolution that undoes the very institutions that made America great. | ||
But when you watch those institutions failing us, And when you watch those institutions be culpable and result where you've got Steve sitting in jail or you've got Americans like a 75-year-old grandma who's sitting in jail, then that begs the question, what are we going to do? | ||
And so I wonder if you might be able to talk for a minute about this new right, why it exists, what it represents in terms of a pushback on this assault on Western civilization by not just the radical progressive Democrats who are leading the charge in America, but also a weak Uniparty, a weak Republican regime that has been selling lies to the American people for decades so they could stay in power while they coddle up to the K Street and the Chamber of Commerce and they want their cheap labor instead of secure borders and all the things that you and I both know. | ||
Yeah, so look, it was the old Italian Marxist political theorist Gramsci who famously spoke of the long march through the institutions and, you know, this march really takes on its earnest It's an earnest step forward, you might say, in the 1960s with the ascent of the campus radicals. | ||
But, you know, at this point, Chip, you know, we are 55, 60 years past the campus radicals. | ||
You know, the Gramscian long march through the institutions at this point is nearly complete. | ||
The political left, those who seek to do that which I just described, to destroy not merely this country, but all of the Judeo-Christian foundations of our broader Western civilization, their long march through all the institutions to accomplish those nefarious ends is all but complete. | ||
They are in the towering, commanding heights of high culture, high society, in political, legal, cultural institutions, in Silicon Valley, Hollywood, Wall Street, you name it. | ||
They control basically everything. | ||
Again, with the exception, by the way, of the U.S. | ||
Supreme Court, which is why they're trying to destroy that as well. | ||
But the so-called new right, this more nationalist populist uprising here, is basically an uprising that says, no, we're not just going to sit and take it anymore. | ||
We're not going to just sit back and let this establishment uniparty, as you accurately describe it, which has been losing and losing and losing and losing for decades and decades on end, we're quibbling over top Tax rates on the corporate tax code. | ||
We're losing our freaking civilization. | ||
We are losing our way of life. | ||
They are throwing our people in jail, obviously including the host of this show, | ||
Steve Bannon, all the people whose names you just read off there, Peter Navarro. | ||
I could go on and on and on. | ||
My good friend, John Eastman, about to lose his bar license out in California, | ||
being prosecuted in numerous jurisdictions, a brilliant lawyer, former US Supreme Court law clerk, | ||
Rudy Giuliani and Mark Meadows. | ||
I mean, where do I have to stop at this point? | ||
They are systematically trying to take our people off the playing field. | ||
And the term new right is somewhat of an amorphous and vague term, but to me, what it really boils down to | ||
is this popular sentiment that we are saying, no, we are not going to take this anymore. | ||
And we actually are willing and indeed eager to actually get our hands a little dirty | ||
with the governmental tactics and means in order to try to bounce out the pendulum | ||
and restore a modicum of civilizational sanity, at least at a bare minimum shift, | ||
to land some punches on our civilizational foes such that we can get back ideally in the mid to long-term, | ||
but hopefully even sooner than that, to something remotely resembling an equilibrium | ||
or a stasis or something that we can all come back to at the end of the day and sleep well at night. | ||
you Well, Josh, that's exactly on point, and I think the one thing that I think that I want to come back to, because you set it up a minute ago with respect to Israel, and I think that's a really interesting topic because there's a divide, obviously. | ||
We talk about the new right, about thinking about this notion that we've been involved | ||
in endless wars for as long as I can remember, right? | ||
With wandering missions, without clarity and morality of purpose, how long to be in Afghanistan | ||
and Iraq and then a week withdrawal. | ||
How much will be involved with Ukraine without a clear strategy to win the war? | ||
And a lot of people listening to this show, myself included, have serious reservations | ||
and concerns about dumping funding for Ukraine without a clear mission. | ||
Israel got tied up into that to some degree. | ||
And there's some debates about how much money we should give to Israel. | ||
I voted against Israel funding because it was packaged with Ukraine and importantly it had funding for Hamas in the very bill that we were funding to help our brothers and sisters in Israel. | ||
But what I want to talk about and I think we're gonna we're gonna have to probably pause in a few seconds for some crass commercial messages. | ||
I wonder if you might hang on through the break and join me afterwards. | ||
Here's what I want you to think about over the break and then join again for a little bit. | ||
How do we talk about Israel and its importance to the West? | ||
Benjamin Netanyahu joined us last week in the House chamber, and it's one of the first times that I've been inspired in that chamber in a very long time. | ||
Listening to him talk about the attack on the West, how our relationship with Israel, and how an attack on Israel is an attack on us. | ||
And they just took out the leader of Hamas. | ||
Iran is talking about revenge against Israel. | ||
So I want to get your thoughts when we come back on this topic when we return. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann. | |
Well, again, it's great to be here sitting in war room again temporarily while we wait | ||
Steve Bannon's return, his triumphant return after he's done standing up for all of us by | ||
sitting in a prison in defense of liberty. | ||
And that's what we're talking about here, the war on Western civilization by radical progressive Democrats. | ||
And by a, frankly, a coordinated effort to root out our way of life and civilization. | ||
And I've got Josh Hammer here with Newsweek, good friend of mine. | ||
Josh and I were just talking about Israel and talking about how Israel is obviously an important historic ally for us. | ||
They just took out the leader of Hamas. | ||
And I want Josh to talk a little bit about why that's important and how the attack on Israel is an attack on the West, an attack on our way of life. | ||
Uh, and how that relationship should continue to be fostered, recognizing that a lot of us are tired of endless conflict and endless wars, and we want to have a strategy that is peace through strength, that is what I call the third way. | ||
It's not isolationist, but it is not endless wars. | ||
Josh, can you talk to that a little bit? | ||
Chip, not only can I talk about this, you know, shameless plug, I have an upcoming book that is partially on this exact topic. | ||
So, you know, make a note for next February or March, Israel and Civilization, the Fate of the Jewish Nation and the Destiny of the West. | ||
Chip, you and I have the exact same foreign policy, from what I can tell. | ||
I have been an outspoken opponent of the U.S. | ||
involvement in the Russia-Ukraine war ever since April or May of 2022. | ||
I mean, within months of Putin going in, I've been a skeptic of that particular settlement over there, and I've been trying to encourage our elites to try to seek a viable off-ramp for both of | ||
those parties. | ||
But the point here is that from an American national interest perspective, which is the | ||
only proper way to view foreign policy, you can't do this foreign policy moralism. | ||
This is where the Wilsonians on the humanitarian interventionist left and the neoconservatives | ||
on the right, they both go awry when they try to project this moralistic urge onto the | ||
That's how you get the disasters like the Libya intervention under Obama in 2011, going in for human rights reasons. | ||
That's how you get the neoconservative boondoggles trying to spread and promote democracy all over the world. | ||
That's not how foreign policy is supposed to work. | ||
In fact, it was John Quincy Adams, back when he was Secretary of State, before he was president in 1821, who famously said, quote, America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. | ||
We are the well-wisher of liberty for the whole world, but we only guarantee it for our own. | ||
The key point here, though, from a U.S.-Israel relationship perspective—I actually was discussing this, Chip, just last week at the conference in Washington, D.C. | ||
for YAF that you and I were both speaking at—the key point is that the U.S.-Israel relationship directly aids the American national interest. | ||
Donald Trump actually understood this probably better than any American leader probably over the past century, I mean, in the entire history Post-1948 of the Jewish state in Israel. | ||
And he understood that intuitively because the fruits of peace in the form of the Abraham Accords were a direct result of the Trump-Netanyahu foreign policy doctrine. | ||
The Trump-Netanyahu foreign policy doctrine that got us these remarkable peace agreements between Israel and the UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, and Sudan, essentially doubling the number of peace agreements that Israel had with any Arab countries prior to it in a matter of like three or four | ||
months, that came from this sober national interest perspective. | ||
In other words, the Trump administration essentially convinced the Arab states that, hey, if you're | ||
worried about Iran, and we're worried about Iran too, we also be worried about Iran, terrible, | ||
terrible regime. | ||
If you're worried about Iran, you moderate Sunni Arab states, you know what your best | ||
bet is? | ||
To actually ally with the strongest military in the region, the best intelligence service, | ||
Mossad and so forth there, work together in this Iran containment alliance. | ||
And here's the key point, Chip, from a US national interest perspective. | ||
I'm also tired of the neoconservative boondoggles. | ||
I was calling for the US to get out of Afghanistan for years and years and years before Joe Biden | ||
did it. | ||
He obviously didn't do it in particularly great fashion, I think would be an understatement | ||
of the century. | ||
But I was calling for that withdrawal for a long time. | ||
I am also sick of this ridiculous moralistic neocon presence and all these third-world Islamist backwaters. | ||
The key point, though, is that Abraham Accord-style national interest foreign policy will actually allow America to strategically pull back from the region. | ||
It will allow America to actually retrench and bring our troops home from these Totally spread out military bases in the desert, like Tower 22 in Jordan, where we tragically lost three troops back in January, because you are emboldening our allies, like Israel, they lead Bahrain, to do our dirty work for them. | ||
And our dirty work happens to include, yesterday by the way, taking out Hezbollah number two and Hamas number one officials. | ||
Well, no, that's right, Josh, and you just articulated very well my perspective and my view, and I think in this context, and we're going to be talking about this over the entirety of this show, this war on Western civilization, again, I would like people to go back and go watch the speech that Prime Minister Netanyahu gave to us in the House chamber last week. | ||
Where he articulated this vision, he articulated very clearly the morality and the, frankly, the call for us to defend our Western civilization way of life. | ||
Josh, I appreciate it. | ||
Josh, how can people follow you on social media? | ||
Chip, you're a good friend. | ||
It's a pleasure to join you. | ||
So I'm on Twitter, Josh underscore Hammer. | ||
Instagram is Josh B Hammer. | ||
I host two shows, The Josh Hammer Show and America on Trial with Josh Hammer. | ||
And I write a weekly syndicated column as well. | ||
Well, Josh, thank you. | ||
God bless. | ||
Let's get together soon. | ||
Keep up the good fight, brother. | ||
God bless you, Chip. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Well, I want to take that and I want to talk a little bit about the extent to which that war on the West is being carried out on the home front. | ||
And it's being carried out on the home front in part by undermining our elections and undermining our faith and confidence in the ability of the people to be able to elect their representatives in a Republican form of government, whether that's in the House, in the Senate, or the President of the United States. | ||
We're seeing across the world the kind of absurdities in elections we just saw unfold in Venezuela. | ||
Right, where we've got Maduro who's sitting there going, oh yeah, no, I'm still here, I won, and anybody who's looking at it, auditing, it was like a 2-1 or 3-1 defeat. | ||
Is that coming to our shores in this country? | ||
Is that coming to America? | ||
We have now had two presidential elections in a row where we had lack of confidence by some being articulated. | ||
The radical progressive left in 2016 was saying, oh, it was stolen. | ||
There was no indication that was the case, but 2020, then they're saying, oh, no, everything's all perfect. | ||
And we just got to just accept it. | ||
Don't worry about it. | ||
But meanwhile, we had very real concerns about ballots, very real concerns about the abuse of mail-in ballots during COVID. | ||
And now we've got the radical progressive left, radical progressive Democrats who are attacking those of us who want to ensure the integrity of our elections. | ||
I am proud to have been the lead author and the lead sponsor of a bill called the SAVE Act in the United States House to ensure that only citizens vote in American elections. | ||
American citizens should be the ones voting in American elections. | ||
And Democrats are having a tough time accepting that bill. | ||
But here's an interesting point. | ||
We got five Democrats to vote for that bill and to break with the radical progressive Democrat regime. | ||
Now, I've got a great friend, Catherine Engelbrecht, who has been a leader in ensuring integrity in elections for a long time, with True the Vote and all of the things that she has done over the last, I don't know how long, but a number of years. | ||
She's been a longtime friend, and now she's under fire. | ||
She's under fire by CNN and by others who are claiming that she is somehow trying to I am. | ||
prevent citizens from voting and that's not true. | ||
She's trying to protect the integrity of the elections and ensure that only citizens vote. | ||
So I'm gonna wanna bring Catherine on. | ||
I know we've got some clips from CNN, but Catherine, are you there? | ||
I am, thanks so much for having me. | ||
Hey, Catherine, can you just real quick, set this up a little bit for the listeners out there. | ||
You're under attack here right now, right? | ||
I know I saw CNN hit on you. | ||
Can you describe what's going on here and why you're trying to protect elections and you're getting attacked? | ||
Yeah, well, this is just the attack du jour, but it's led by CNN. | ||
They are the particular canary in the coal mine this time, and they're focused on one of the projects that True the Vote has been involved in for the last many months, which is empowering citizens to look at their local voter rolls, identify potentially ineligible | ||
records, and then submit those records to their county or local jurisdiction. | ||
It's a process that is afforded to citizens in almost every state, and we are in complete, | ||
accurate, accurate compliance with that process. | ||
Yet, CNN has taken it upon itself to file open records requests for everywhere they think citizens that are working with this project will be involved. | ||
They're filing those open records requests with the counties, getting the names of the people who are involved, and then harassing them, showing up on their doorstep. | ||
It's outrageous. | ||
Followed, of course, by this most recent coordinated hit that came out on Monday. | ||
If you don't mind, can we just back up for one second and set the stage for all of the great patriotic listeners out there, the American people? | ||
Because here's what happens, right? | ||
Not just a CNN hit. | ||
I get it in Congress all the time. | ||
I've got Republican colleagues and others that will raise the question and say, hold on a second. | ||
Chip, you know, you need to come forward and show what's the evidence here. | ||
What's the evidence that we've got real meaningful amount of fraud in elections, right? | ||
Because we all get the joke. | ||
We get the game. | ||
We understand what the radical progressive Democrat machine is doing in importing people with wide open borders, trying to break down, you know, the ability to protect our elections. | ||
You got San Francisco, Oakland, Washington, D.C., New York, All these jurisdictions that are actively trying to register people to vote. | ||
We know this is true. | ||
In Washington, we literally had a program at D.C., and we had a vote to stop that in the House, and it passed with significant Democrat support, by the way. | ||
But they were actively trying to register people to vote who are non-citizens for the, quote, local elections in Washington. | ||
But they want to hide and say, oh, don't worry, that's not going to affect federal elections. | ||
But they'll tell us that this is not true. | ||
So if you don't mind, will you take, you know, I got a couple minutes here and then I want to have you hang on through the break and I want to play a CNN clip of the attack on you and then let you respond to that and talk a little bit about the SAVE Act. | ||
But will you please set up the truth about what is happening with respect to our elections, that they are in fact under assault and there is real abuse and fraud occurring? | ||
A hundred percent. | ||
Well, and I will say that this is, I don't want to conflate the issues because the project for which we are currently under attack is looking at, is helping citizens to evaluate their own local voter rolls. | ||
And the criteria by which we are evaluating those rolls consists of people who have moved and registered in other states, registrations that appear to be at vacant lots or commercial buildings, things that citizens can do further digging on and then evaluate and submit. | ||
But we've created an app that is geocoded down to every single household. | ||
You can pull all manner of data in order to make these determinations, and the records are evaluated one at a time. | ||
I will tell you with great pride, That over 825,000 ineligible records have been identified to this point by over 8,000 challengers across 1,511 counties nationwide. | ||
That's just one of the projects, not even to speak of the non-citizen issues that we're facing. | ||
Well, Catherine, that is helpful, I think, for people to have the context. | ||
So what I want to do is when we get through these, as Rush used to call them, crass commercial messages, we will come back, and I want to play the CNN hit, I want you to be able to respond to it, and then I want to talk a little bit about the SAVE Act and what we can do to get all Americans to be a part of this process to save our republic. | ||
Alright? | ||
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Thanks. | |
I've lived in Denton for over 24 years. | ||
I have been voting here for two decades. | ||
As we can see, I am real. | ||
I am here. | ||
I am talking to you. | ||
If you're wondering why Daniel Moss is defending his existence, it's because of this list. | ||
That's my first name. | ||
That's my last name. | ||
Of thousands of voter registrations in Denton County being challenged as ineligible. | ||
Finding out that I'm on some sort of hit list of people who shouldn't be voting. | ||
I was pretty pissed off. | ||
How did Moss, a legally registered American voter in the state of Texas and a university administrator, end up having his voter registration challenged? | ||
Because of the efforts of one group. | ||
Hi there, I'm Katherine Engelbrecht with True The Vote. | ||
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True The Vote, a right-wing organization fueled by the MAGA movement. | |
All of a sudden, in certain states, they found all these votes. | ||
A totally rigged election. | ||
And the lies that the 2020 election was stolen with illegal ballots. | ||
Welcome to the IV3 project. | ||
You have arrived in the nick of time. | ||
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This is the group's online training session for IV3, a user-friendly app pushed by True the Vote, recruiting and training thousands of private citizens on how to submit challenges to local election offices. | |
We've got to report what we can and get it as accurate as we can and it is making an enormous impact. | ||
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Adding up to about 700,000 challenges to voters across the country so far. | |
Documents obtained by CNN show many of them use the exact same language. | ||
Daniel Moss' challenge came from someone he doesn't even know. | ||
I want to say it was Nancy. | ||
Nancy lives in the same county. | ||
and single-handedly sent in thousands of challenges this year. | ||
We asked around for her. | ||
I'm trying to talk to Nancy. | ||
But she did not come to the door. | ||
Nancy sends me something every day. | ||
Frank Phillips is Denton County's elections administrator. | ||
As November looms, it's not just Nancy sending in challenges now. | ||
There have been days where I've received a couple of thousand names. | ||
Isn't it Overwhelming to get thousands of names. | ||
Alright, Catherine, you've been able to listen to the CNN hit piece on you now for probably the, you know, I don't know, 10th or 20th time in your life, but now the listeners have heard it, and I know you've got strong feelings about it, and I know what your purpose and your intent is, and it's to make sure our elections are able to be trusted and to make sure that we have integrity in our elections. | ||
Can you talk to this and talk about what your efforts are? | ||
And kind of refute what what CNN was doing with the hit piece, but be specific about it, right? | ||
I mean, you know, it's it's possible that when you go through and you clean out rolls that you that you make a mistake and you got to deal with, you know, a citizen and so forth. | ||
I get that. | ||
And you and I have talked separately about the Texas Secretary of State trying to go in and clean the rolls. | ||
And then there was a consent degree that, frankly, limited to the DMV, which wasn't good enough. | ||
And we've got a lot more work we need to do in Texas and other states to ensure the integrity of our elections. | ||
Talk about what you're doing and refute that hit job. | ||
Oh yeah, sure. | ||
So what the process of challenging a potentially ineligible record looks like is, and we'll talk about this in Texas, every state has a different standard and we've tried to provide those standards online at iv3.us. | ||
For anybody that wants to participate wherever they are. | ||
But in Texas, you have to find personal belief of the facts that are available that support the submission of a challenge. | ||
Those challenges are then given to the county. | ||
And the county, because this is all digital, it makes it very easy, can compare what they have been challenged versus what they have in their rolls. | ||
Make any determination that is necessary, and then and only then are voters notified if the county agrees that they should be challenged or they should be requested further information from. | ||
So it's a very process-oriented effort. | ||
What CNN has done is filed open records requests for anything that's being submitted, blamed everything that there could possibly be to blame on True the Vote, but totally overlooked the fact that it is ultimately the county that is making up the determinations. | ||
But it is to the citizens to try and assist because our voter rolls are a mess. | ||
The only reason that Daniel would have been found, at least with our search process, as somebody that might be ineligible to vote is because Daniel would have submitted a permanent residential change of address to the United States Postal Service And if anybody out there, and I'm sure you have, your listeners have moved, you know the process. | ||
If you want to get your post office to help with your change of address, that is a multi-step process. | ||
So that kind of information is what's being presented to the county, or in addition, it could be that kind of information they have permanently moved and registered in another state, but it's just presented to the county for their evaluation. | ||
So this this notion that you know we are we are somehow having a hand in Removing names from the rolls is, we're trying to start a conversation with counties around the country to confirm or assist in the accuracy of the rolls because they are in bad shape. | ||
We know that just as a broad statement, over 25 million records appear to be ineligible on the basis of people having moved and registered in other states. | ||
Why aren't counties doing a better job? | ||
That's the question. | ||
Well, Catherine, thanks for that. | ||
That was actually what I was about to ask you. | ||
You were talking about the 25 million records. | ||
Any other examples that you have or any data so the listeners can understand that this is a real problem? | ||
I mean, I've seen this, right? | ||
I've seen it in Texas. | ||
I've seen it in other states. | ||
And, you know, I've been I've focused on heavily the issue of people being non-citizens registering to vote, which is separate, as you point out, from what you're getting at in terms of the local counties working to make sure we clean the rolls, but they overlap. | ||
They're related, right? | ||
Because you've got the issues where people are trying to use the fact that our system is broken in terms of clean rolls to be able to register non-citizens and they get through the cracks and they vote. | ||
But, uh, do you have any other examples or data, you know, indicating so people can understand the magnitude of the problem? | ||
The hundreds of thousands of records that we have where you have people who are registered at two addresses, where you have ballots going to multiple addresses in the same name. | ||
We've seen that across the country. | ||
Do you have any other data like that? | ||
Yeah, well, I'll just say broadly that your point is well made. | ||
What IV3 focuses on are just a very few data points that can be easily determined so that we can run a project to support people at scale. | ||
But identifying people who are registered more than once or people who are phantoms or non-citizens, there are certain things that take deeper level queries But at the end of the day, you know, the question we should all be asking is, why do our elections seem to be perpetually broken? | ||
When you look in private industry, my word, we live in the age of Amazon OneClick, where our data is known. | ||
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to the nth degree, how could it be that our voter rolls, which should be the bedrock of a representative republic, | ||
how could it be that they are so inaccurate? | ||
So yeah, I mean, I would just say that, you see typically when you're looking across counties, | ||
it depends on the county. | ||
And it really doesn't seem to depend upon the size of the county, although you might think | ||
that that would be a contributing factor. | ||
It really seems to be on the leadership involved at the county level. | ||
You'll see anywhere from 3% error rate to 20% error rate. | ||
There should be standards. | ||
We should have reliable and transparent processes that citizens can feel good about. | ||
I'll give you another example. | ||
Georgia, a state we've done a lot of work in, Georgia only cleans its voter rolls once Every other year in odd years, the first six months of the year, they blame that on standards around the National Voter Registration Act. | ||
And they say that's the only way that they can get close to cleaning their rolls. | ||
But what it effectively means is that Georgia looked at its rolls in early 2023. | ||
They won't look at them again until the summer of 2025. | ||
And everything that happens in this critical election year is going to be allowed in without question. | ||
Those are not standards that will generate accurate outcomes. | ||
We must do better, and voter rolls are the gateway to problems upstream. | ||
Catherine, how can people learn more about the app, learn more about how they can use it, how they can implement it, in terms of what you're trying to do even in this election cycle, and how can they follow you on social media? | ||
Absolutely. | ||
You can check out truethevote.org. | ||
CNN did a great job featuring our IV3 project, iv3.us. | ||
Although I will say that for all states that are beholden to the National Voter Registration Act, and it's all but just a handful, that they have a cutoff 90 days before the election. | ||
So we're within the last few days Of having citizens in a position to submit these four purposes of consideration in the 2024 election. | ||
But IV3 will remain open and you can always, we would so encourage, get your eyes on your own roles. | ||
Don't read about it in the headlines. | ||
Don't just listen to what I'm telling you. | ||
Look at it for yourselves and judge for yourselves if the problems you're facing in the county are things that you want to bring to the attention of your elected representatives. | ||
And I suspect the answer is going to be yes, because we have big problems, and the only way we're going to solve it is with citizens speaking out, standing up, and not settling for what we've seen in the past. | ||
Catherine, thanks for what you're doing. | ||
Keep up the great work. | ||
Let's visit soon back in Texas. | ||
But if you're out there, viewers, go check out their website. | ||
Go check out their social media. | ||
See what you can do to get on the app. | ||
And let's make sure we get our voter rolls clean. | ||
Thanks, Catherine. | ||
Thanks so much. | ||
So I want to expand on this point just for one minute because it's so important. | ||
We were talking to Josh earlier about the war on the West. | ||
I'm going to talk to some guests a little bit later in this show about the extent to which our way of life is under attack. | ||
And we'll talk specifically about the assassination attempt on former President Trump. | ||
We're going to talk about some of the woke battles going on with my friend Matt Gaetz from Florida. | ||
But this issue on voting, I want to highlight this just a little bit more. | ||
The reason and the impetus behind what we tried to do with the SAVE Act. | ||
Catherine alluded to it, right? | ||
And so she's talking about trying to clean the rolls locally. | ||
There's a nexus between that and the larger effort by Democrats, radical progressive Democrats, to flood the zone with people from all over the world across our borders. | ||
And it's happening every single day to the tune of thousands of votes. | ||
We have some of our radical progressive Democratic colleagues who will acknowledge and admit that they want these voters to fill their own seats. | ||
We had a congresswoman from New York who literally said that. | ||
We've had President Biden effectively refer to that, refer to illegal aliens as voters. | ||
So here's the deal. | ||
If you go to Arizona as a good example, so you can understand what's actually going on. | ||
Captain alluded to the NBRA, okay? | ||
That act passed in 1990, I can't remember, I think three or 91, somewhere back in the 90s. | ||
That bill, the law that was passed, included language in there about how they deal with the requirements on voting that has been interpreted by courts to limit the ability of states to collect information to ensure citizenship. | ||
So Arizona passed a law saying we want to check citizenship. | ||
So their state elections, their local elections, they go through a system | ||
to take in information and fill out forms that says you've got to prove up your | ||
citizenship. But for federal elections, they are prohibited from doing so. So | ||
they don't. So Arizona has two systems. That gives you an example of what we're | ||
dealing with across all the states. So we filed the legislation, the SAVE | ||
Act, to fix that glitch, but to go a step further and to say, as I think I | ||
talked to Steve about a while back when we filed it, that we should go further and | ||
require states to collect and ensure that we are having a documentary proof | ||
of citizenship before Now, I know everybody listening to the show agrees with that, right? | ||
As a general matter. | ||
You know why? | ||
Because this is a strong patriotic show, but guess what? | ||
87% of all Americans believe that only citizens should vote in American elections. | ||
So, we're trying to do that with a SAVE Act to try to fix that problem. | ||
But it's not enough just to pass a bill. | ||
I'm proud that we passed the bill. | ||
We passed it out of the House. | ||
We had five Democrats join. | ||
But now we need Republican leadership. | ||
We need the Speaker. | ||
We need Republicans to attach it to a spending bill, send it over to the Senate, and force the Senate to have to deal with it, and club Democrats with it. | ||
It's what we should have done in July. | ||
We should have done that heading out into the August so-called recess. | ||
We didn't do it, so we should do it when we come back in September. | ||
But we'll talk a little bit more about that when we come back. | ||
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The choice is simple. | |
Kamala Harris supports increasing the number of Border Patrol agents. | ||
Donald Trump blocked a bill to increase the number of Border Patrol agents. | ||
Kamala Harris supports investing in new technology to block fentanyl from entering the country. | ||
Donald Trump blocked funding for technology to block fentanyl from entering the country. | ||
Kamala Harris supports spending more money to stop human traffickers. | ||
Donald Trump blocked money to stop human traffickers. | ||
Kamala Harris prosecuted transnational gang members and got them sentenced to prison. | ||
Trump is trying to avoid being sentenced to prison. | ||
There's two choices in this election. | ||
The one who will fix our broken immigration system, and the one who's trying to stop her. | ||
You know, one of my favorite movies is My Cousin Vinny. | ||
And I had a law school professor in trial advocacy. | ||
He told me that the greatest opening statement that he's ever heard was in My Cousin Vinny. | ||
When Vinny goes up and he says, and he looks back and he goes, everything that guy just said is bull, you know what? | ||
Bullcrap. | ||
And unfortunately, that's out of order. | ||
You can't say that in a courtroom. | ||
But that's exactly on point here. | ||
We all know that everything that was in that ad is complete horse manure, to put it politely. | ||
But the fact is, this goes back to the beginning of this show, and the conversation with Josh, it goes back to the conversation with Catherine, the war on the West. | ||
This is purposeful. | ||
These are all lies. | ||
They are lies by a regime that want you to believe that they're somehow doing something they're not doing. | ||
The truth, though, is very obvious. | ||
I could sit here and spit out numbers. | ||
I could spit out the 8.1 million illegal aliens that have crossed the southern border since Biden took office, or a greater number. | ||
I could spit out the 2 million gotaways, the people that have just Scurry off into the woods, and we never know where they go or who they are. | ||
I could talk about the fact that they keep talking about the numbers going down, but we're seeing the encounters in June. | ||
We're still 130,000 encounters when they're quote-unquote down, far greater than the 30,000 or so at the end of the Trump administration. | ||
I could talk about all of the crimes. | ||
I could talk about all of the data points, the 35,000 Chinese nationals that we've encountered in the first part of 2024 alone, far greater than the years preceding to it. | ||
But the truth really is people. | ||
The truth is the war on our freedom, the war on our ability to be secure in our communities and our streets. | ||
Lakin Riley is dead. | ||
Laken Riley is dead, specifically because Kamala Harris, as drugs, as so-called borders are, Joe Biden, Secretary Mayorkas, all of the radical progressive Democrats in charge of this administration, are violating our laws to release people into the United States using a policy called parole, and they're paroling people in, and the guy that they paroled in That killed Lake and Riley would not have been in the United States but for their illegal actions to flood our country with frankly a large number of criminals and terrorists from prisons and from places around the world coming to the United States. | ||
We saw just yesterday a report That there are a thousand individuals that are associated with the violent Tren de Aragua from Venezuela that are in the United States and have been given so-called, quote-unquote, the green light to fire on and attack law enforcement, according to the internal bulletin that went out across Border Patrol. | ||
That's the truth. | ||
You, the American citizen, you are no longer safe in America because Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, radical progressive Democrats want to advance their radical agenda to import people from all over the world and to change the makeup of our country, that's a goal, to use it for electoral success in their view and to frankly remake America and in doing so Take away your way of life! | ||
It's a continued assault on Western civilization and the American way of life. | ||
There were any number of additional examples I could give in addition to Lake and Riley. | ||
We could talk about Rachel Moran right up the road here from DC in Maryland, who was killed, a mother. | ||
Kayla Hamilton in the same county in Maryland. | ||
Lisbeth Medina in Texas found in a bathtub a cheerleader. | ||
Her mom went to go see her in a parade and she didn't show up and she goes back home and finds her daughter murdered in a bathtub in her house in Texas. | ||
I could talk about the millions of illegal alien children, girls being sold into the sex trafficking trade. | ||
Why? | ||
So that these radical progressive Democrats can have more power? | ||
What kind of cynical people would use these little girls as their political chattel? | ||
But that's what they're doing. | ||
And they want to then come out and try to tell the American people, oh, don't worry. | ||
You know, we're the ones securing the border. | ||
And they're lying. | ||
They're lying. | ||
They're trying to say, oh, you know, Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress opposed this grand bill that would have come together to secure the border. | ||
That's a lie. | ||
And it was completely rejected by Republicans, and frankly, even Democrats rejected it. | ||
They couldn't even get it out of the Senate. | ||
And it was only a handful of Republicans who were duped into trying to tell the world that it was somehow going to be a bill that would have done any good. | ||
And now they want to hide behind that. | ||
But they cannot hide behind the fact that we have Americans dying. | ||
We have moms who have lost their children to fentanyl poisonings. | ||
We're having hundreds of thousands of Americans dying from fentanyl poisoning. | ||
We had a San Antonio police officer, I represent San Antonio, Texas, who was shot Just this last weekend, because a Venezuelan illegal alien who'd been given a date to show up in April of 2026, I kid you not, two years from now, and that individual is in a domestic dispute with his illegal alien girlfriend, partner, wife, or whatever, and now a San Antonio police officer gets shot. | ||
These are avoidable shootings, avoidable deaths, avoidable suffering, avoidable fentanyl poisonings. | ||
If we just did our job to secure the border of the United States, which we refuse to do. | ||
But I got to be a little blunt here. | ||
It's not just the radical progressive Democrats. | ||
It's weak Republicans. | ||
Weak Republicans who for too long have saddled up to the Chamber of Commerce, they walk over to the Rio Grande, and they put up a sign that says no trespassing, but then they go wink wink, nod nod, help wanted over here, give me your cheap labor. | ||
And they've refused to secure the border. | ||
They fought building a wall. | ||
They fought making sure that we had all the policies we needed to secure the border. | ||
They wanted to have amnesty. | ||
And it is you, the patriotic Americans, who, as Steve always talks about, are the ones who are standing up, the new right that Josh Hamer and I talked about earlier this hour, that are standing up to say, no, enough. | ||
You don't get to take our way of life. | ||
You don't get to take away our freedoms. | ||
You don't get to take away our ability to exercise our God-given rights under the Constitution, but also the security that the Constitution contemplates when it says, secure the blessings of liberty. | ||
That is why we have government. | ||
It is its fundamental duty. | ||
And to listen to Kamala Harris lie on the back of Secretary Mayorkas' lies. | ||
He got impeached for a reason. | ||
To listen to them lie to the American people, it takes a whole lot of chutzpah. | ||
But that means we know what we need to do this fall. | ||
We know what we need to do to make sure we take our country back. |