July 20, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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I don't think there is much more to it. | |
| I mean, from what we've seen and what we've heard, it was a bullet shot that grazed his ear and injured his ear. | ||
| According to the physicians who examined him, there was no other further damage. | ||
| So I think that with regard to the health related purely to the bullet itself, I think he's in the clear, as far as I can see. | ||
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I mean, it's dangerous to make diagnoses from a distance. | |
| From what I'm seeing, the way he's acting now, and what his physician's reports are, it seems to have been a superficial wound to the ear, and that's all. | ||
| I mean, Trump is a dog bites man on a grand scale, right? | ||
| He's so inured us and immunized us to his craziness and derangement and dishonesty that we all kind of move on. | ||
| And Chris, you showed some excellent headlines from kind of state and regional and city papers. | ||
| The New York Times, the paper of record, their headline on the speech was, after an emotional beginning, Trump veers into familiar partisan attacks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not only does that underplay the derangement of the speech, as you've just pointed out, but I think the word familiar is very important there. | ||
| Familiar partisan attacks. | ||
| Journalists don't like familiar, right? | ||
| They don't want familiar. | ||
| They want new and shiny. | ||
| And Trump's insanity and bigotry and dishonesty is all very familiar. | ||
| So we've just normalized it. | ||
| We've normalized the abnormal. | ||
| We've mainstreamed his extremism. | ||
| And that is a fundamental problem, because you then end up gaslighting your readers and your viewers by pretending that this speech was somehow normal. | ||
| I interviewed a member of the Washington Post editorial board earlier today, who said, well, when I said it was an insane speech, a crazy speech, he said, well, it was just normal Trump. | ||
| But that's the problem. | ||
| Normal Trump is crazy, is insane, and we need to keep saying that. | ||
| But we don't, and therefore we, the media, are not doing our job. | ||
| And yet. | ||
| With all you just heard, it is Biden who is fighting off calls from within his own party to step down. | ||
| There are now more than 30 congressional members, more than 10% of the Democratic caucus in the House and Senate calling for Biden to exit the election. | ||
| The pressure campaign is reportedly also coming from the highest echelons of the Democratic establishment, including Speaker Emeritus Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, and per some reports, even Biden's former White House partner, President Barack Obama. | ||
| NBC News has learned that in the midst of all of that pressure campaign, members of Biden's family have discussed what an exit from the race would look like if, if he chooses to give in. | ||
| And that's still a big if, with Biden's campaign pushing back hard against that possibility. | ||
| In a new memo, they insist that Biden is in it to win it and will remain at the top of the ticket. | ||
| Quote, he is the presumptive nominee. | ||
| There is no plan for an alternative nominee. | ||
| In a few short weeks, Joe Biden will be the official nominee. | ||
| Folks, They said it is high past time that we stop fighting each other. | ||
| The only person who can win when we fight is Donald Trump. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies. | |
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | |
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Good morning, Hanwell here at the helm, Steve Bannon's War Room and... | ||
| I'm 20th Of July, Saturday 25th of July, Anno Domini 2024. | ||
| So there's lots going on right now. | ||
| We're going to break down. | ||
| We saw in the cold open the meltdown confronting the Democrats right now as they discard their president. | ||
| And obviously, it's a lot of distraction. | ||
| They're trying to distract. | ||
| With smoke screens talking about Donald Trump's speech, when obviously what people are really interested in now is how the present party in power discards its incumbent from restanding again. | ||
| And that's what we're going to be drilling down here on the wall. | ||
| But first, my guest this morning to open the show, Dr. Bradley Thayer. | ||
| There's lots going on in China. | ||
| A lot of people think, I think you're one of them, a lot of people will consider China | ||
| or specifically the CCP itself to be a mortal enemy of the United States. | ||
| They've just had their concluded last week, their third plenum to discuss their economy. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, your first analysis was the fact that this third plenary session was projected | ||
| for last autumn and they've postponed it until now. | ||
| You have an interesting insight as to why this is. | ||
| Could you break that down please for us and specifically outline why this is of importance to Americans? | ||
| Dr. Thayer, good morning. | ||
| Good morning, Ben. | ||
| It's wonderful to join you today. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So the Chinese Communist Party is, as the name indicates, a communist party. | ||
| And so they rule in that totalitarian fashion. | ||
| Uh, and the party, uh, essentially addresses, um, the, the major issues that it confronts and the direction it wants to move ahead and what are called party Congresses. | ||
| And then in October of 2022, they had the 20th party Congress. | ||
| And then in the wake of those party congresses, there are plenary sessions or plenums that address specific issues that are broken down really by inner party issues. | ||
| Ideology, for example, which is addressed at the fourth and the sixth plenums typically. | ||
| And then the third covers economic and social issues and the economic, of course, are critical. | ||
| The fact that this plenary session, the third plenum, should have been held previously and was not, and is only now being held—it just concluded, of course, on Thursday—is an indication that they don't know what to do. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party faces dire economic circumstances, and they're trying to figure out what they need to do to solve their economic problems. | ||
| The most critical economic problem that they have been is to ensure that U.S. | ||
| investment and trade continue to flow into the People's Republic of China. | ||
| They want to sustain that. | ||
| That's critical for their economic growth. | ||
| Then within China, Dr. Fay, excuse me, how much of China's current panic in its inability to draw up its five-year economic plan, how much of this panic is due to the Trump-China tariffs, which the Biden administration has largely held onto? | ||
| Well, Ben, that's a very significant question, and Xi Jinping has got his thumb on the scale. | ||
| He wants Biden. | ||
| Or the Democrat candidate, if it's not Biden. | ||
| He does not want Trump to return to office because Trump is going to end the flow of investment and trade. | ||
| And again, Vance's pick, J.D. | ||
| Vance, as vice president, was an excellent pick in this regard. | ||
| So, Xi Jinping does not want Trump back in office. | ||
| He wants the Democrats to continue because the Democrats sustain what Jim Finnell and I call the neo-engagement school. | ||
| That is the idea that investment trade is going to continue to flow into the People's Republic of China and thereby the Chinese Communist Party is going to stay in power. | ||
| They're going to be supported and they're going to be able to work through their economic difficulties potentially because we're funding it in essence. | ||
| The United States and the West more broadly are funding the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Trump is going to end that, and that's why they don't want him to return to office. | ||
| But fundamentally, many of their problems also are their own, and that is the result of their misrule. | ||
| The fact that communist governments, wherever they're in office, of course, are illegitimate. | ||
| Uh, and commit, uh, you know, obviously are disastrous when it comes to, uh, human rights, social, uh, and economic rights. | ||
| Uh, and of course, economic. | ||
| Can I just ask you that? | ||
| Are you drawing, to go back to something you were saying about 30 seconds ago, are you drawing a direct parallel between the imminent prospect of the return of the Trump administration from January the 20th of next year and the fact that China is in a panic with regards to its quinquennial economic strategy? | ||
| They're in a panic, Ben, for two major reasons. | ||
| One, because they see that Trump does have the possibility of returning to office. | ||
| We should not underestimate the measures that the Chinese Communist Party is going to take to keep Trump from office in terms of election interference. | ||
| and other means that the many tens of thousands of Chinese individuals who've come into this country may attempt to execute. | ||
| But then also they have profound economic problems because of their misrule, right? | ||
| Because wherever communists show up, the economy is going to be obviously destroyed. | ||
| So they don't know how to resolve it. | ||
| And they themselves, in fact, are beginning to admit That they need to bring about major changes. | ||
| Let me ask you another question. | ||
| I know your specialty is the CCP and China specifically, but this show has been pretty big on election integrity in the United States coming on from the last presidential election. | ||
| Are you suggesting, when you say that the Chinese, that the CCP, excuse me, will do | ||
| all that it can to stop President Trump from returning to the White House, are you suggesting | ||
| that the election integrity dynamic is important for that reason, that this is something that | ||
| Republicans and Trump specifically ought to be engaged on? | ||
| Now, there are a whole other load of reasons why Republicans and Donald Trump should be interested on election integrity, right? | ||
| But are you adding specifically here China into the mix in the same way that the Russians were dragged in erroneously, as we now know, but they were dragged in Absolutely, Ben. | ||
| by the Democrats in the last cycle. | ||
| Do you think there's a threat that the Chinese might actually intend to do what the Democrats | ||
| outright accused the Russians of doing in the last cycle? | ||
| Absolutely, Ben. | ||
| Trump represents an existential threat to the Chinese Communist Party, and they do not | ||
| want him to return to office. | ||
| And the avenues of election interference include the machines, of course. | ||
| They include the individuals who've come over the border illegally and many other avenues that they have. | ||
| The employment of deepfakes, artificial intelligence. | ||
| Brian Kennedy has written an exceptional piece on this in American Mind. | ||
| Which all have posted, which really illuminates the pathways they can have to interfere in the election. | ||
| So Ben, you're exactly right. | ||
| There are many foreign countries that want to interfere in our election. | ||
| But the Chinese Communist Party is most determined to do so because they cannot have Trump return to office. | ||
| Their hope for survival is that Biden or the Democrat candidate is elected. | ||
| and sustains the neo-engagement, the flawed neo-engagement policy, which is their lifeline | ||
| at a time in economic, when they're in dire economic straits. | ||
| If Trump's elected, of course, there's the possibility of putting real pressure on the | ||
| Chinese Communist Party, so that ideally, they fall from power and the Chinese people | ||
| are free to make their own decisions about what they want to do, freed from the tyranny | ||
| of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So this is a critical election for Americans, but also for the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And Americans need to understand, of course, that the greatest threat, their adversary, sees it as such. | ||
| So Ben, there's so much work to be done. | ||
| On machines, of course, on every aspect of election integrity. | ||
| And so it's a it's a dire situation. | ||
| And I wish it received more attention than it than it does in terms of... We'll do what we can here on the war room to point the spotlight on this. | ||
| Just coming up to the break, Dr. Thayer, just a quick question for you. | ||
| You were tying in earlier how these various You know, the plural would be planar sessions, right? | ||
| So the third planum had been postponed since last autumn, and that was specifically as all these planary sessions are, they're tied into the Ben, this shows again, underscores their tremendous vulnerability of their economy. | ||
| They don't know what to do. | ||
| similarly postponed from last year to this year? | ||
| Or was it only the one tied to developing their five-year economic plan? | ||
| None significantly. | ||
| So, Ben, this shows, again, underscores their tremendous vulnerability of their economy. | ||
| They don't know what to do. | ||
| They don't know how to get out of the box that they have themselves. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, hold on. | ||
| We'll be back in two minutes after the break to discuss Taiwan. | ||
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Welcome back. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, there's been a lot of talk about the United States underwriting or U.S. | ||
| taxpayers underwriting Taiwan's security vis-a-vis China. | ||
| Obviously, there's a lot of speculation that President Xi himself has been gearing up for many years for an eventual invasion. | ||
| President Trump has intervened last week, I think. | ||
| with an interview in Bloomberg when he said that Taiwan doesn't pay the United States anything for the defense that the U.S. | ||
| provides and that they should do. | ||
| Could you break down the implications of this? | ||
| And firstly, before we discuss that, perhaps just say a few words of what it would mean to the United States were Taiwan matters for the United States for three big reasons. | ||
| under the CCP authority into the Chinese orbit? | ||
| Sure, Ben, that's a great question and a very important issue. | ||
| Taiwan matters for the United States for three big reasons. | ||
| First, it matters economically because Taiwan produces most of the world's chips. | ||
| Our economy and the economy of the West depends on the chips that are made in Taiwan. | ||
| So if those facilities, if those factories were destroyed or damaged, the outlook obviously for the Western economy is going to be greatly diminished and the US economy in particular. | ||
| You'd be flirting with a depression if they were destroyed. | ||
| So economically, Taiwan is a vibrant economy, and the chips are absolutely essential for all Americans | ||
| and for the health and well-being, of course, of the American economy. | ||
| Secondly, Taiwan matters geostrategically and in a military sense because of its location. | ||
| Taiwan, of course, essentially 110 miles, its closest point from the mainland of China, is a very important base for defensive measures against China, for intelligence bases, and to help bottle up Thirdly, it matters because in the sense of political warfare, Taiwan shows what China might be. | ||
| Taiwan is a thriving democracy. | ||
| This year, of course, in January, very important elections were held. | ||
| And Taiwan shows what the mainland could be, what the People's Republic of China might be. | ||
| And that is a vibrant democracy where the people rule themselves, which is why the CCP hates it and wants to obviously conquer it and destroy it. | ||
| So that it's brought in like Hong Kong and like Tibet and other places brought under the thumb of the CCP's tyranny. | ||
| So Taiwan matters for all of those reasons. | ||
| I get that, and those are three important considerations. | ||
| The first one specifically suggests to me that there's a component here to do with America's own national security interest in having access to the microchips that are produced in Taiwan. | ||
| How is it possible, Dr. Thayer, that until now nobody has suggested, though, that the Taiwanese ought to be paying a subscription, if you will, if I can use that term, to the United States Well, I read Trump's remarks in the following way. | ||
| I see Trump employing what he does from time to time, which is a way to get allies and partners to contribute more to their defense. | ||
| And there's much more that Taiwan could do to defend itself. | ||
| Taiwan is not an ally of the U.S. | ||
| Of course, we call it a partner. | ||
| It's not a formal treaty ally in the way the Philippines is, for example. | ||
| So Trump's remarks, which he's echoed, of course, with European states and other states, is a way to focus Taiwan on contributing more to it. | ||
| But we want to remember that Trump has strongly supported Taiwan. | ||
| In the face of the tyranny and in the face of the belligerence, hyper belligerence, really, from the People's Republic of China. | ||
| In December 2016, Ben, if you recall, Taiwan's president at the time called President-elect Trump, right? | ||
| The first foreign leader really with whom he had, I think, a meaningful and lengthy exchange was with the Taiwanese president at that time, which was a very important step and signaled the People's Republic of China that things were not going to continue as they were under previous presidents. | ||
| And then when he was in office, of course, in his first term, President Trump greatly supported Taiwan for the strategic reasons I've indicated. | ||
| So I see his remarks, the interview on July 17th to Bloomberg is really being an aspect to signal allies and partners around the world That we need to go back really to the way things were in the Cold War, where allies contributed greatly to their own defense and contributed mightily to their own actions. | ||
| For example, whether those were NATO allies or other allies. | ||
| So you're suggesting that these pronouncements on behalf of President Trump with regards to Taiwan of the same order and for the same scope as his similar statements regarding NATO allies with their own subscriptions towards NATO, pronouncements on behalf of Donald Trump that have actually produced fruit. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Taiwan has contributed very much and has worked with the U.S. | ||
| in many ways and partners and allies like Japan. | ||
| I think Trump is signaling there's much work to do, and the United States can do a lot of the heavy lifting, but allies and partners around the world also have to increasingly share the burden to deal with the threats that the U.S. | ||
| allies and partners around the world face, and that's principally the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So in synthesis then, Dr. Thayer, today on the show you've basically been saying that from the fact that their third plenum has been delayed from last autumn to this year, the CCP is in disarray with regards to its economic planning, its five-year planning. | ||
| And the prospect of this Trump advance ticket now is only going to be keeping up the pressure against the CCP. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's why J.D. | ||
| Vance was such an important signal, Ben, where J.D. | ||
| Vance with obviously coming from Ohio, communities decimated by fentanyl and other drug use. | ||
| And then, of course, with the loss of trade, the loss, of course, of U.S. | ||
| manufacturing to China, the People's Republic of China, is a very important symbol where J.D. | ||
| Vance and the pick of J.D. | ||
| Vance It's absolutely key to signal to Beijing that Trump is going to continue many of the policies and he's going to even double down on the policies of his first term, and that is to have U.S. | ||
| trade, obviously to have our manufacturing base onshore, to take it away from China Wall Street continues to invest in the People's Republic of China. | ||
| And most importantly, or equally importantly, is to end the investment. | ||
| Right. Wall Street continues to invest in the People's Republic of China. | ||
| We're funding our enemy, which is a fool, supremely foolish to do. | ||
| And particularly when our enemy is in bad economic straits. | ||
| So that has to end, and Trump, I'm sure, will take many measures to restrict that flow or ideally to end that flow. | ||
| So that there's no investment of going into China, that investment goes to Ohio, investment goes to Michigan, investment goes to Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, not to our enemy. | ||
| And that I think is key. | ||
| Yeah, Ben, please. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, that's perfect. | ||
| A perfect synthesis. | ||
| It's absolutely insane to be funding, financially bankrolling your own mortal enemy. | ||
| And I think people can have a reasonable confidence now that with a change of administration on November the 5th, that folly, that suicidal folly will finally come to an end. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, where can people go to catch up with your analysis as events unfold in China? | ||
| Absolutely, Ben. | ||
| But we want to keep in mind that, again, the CCP will be interfering in our election. | ||
| So that's critical to pay attention to that issue and the avenues that they'll use to interfere with it. | ||
| I met Brad Thayer on X or Bradley Thayer at Getter and Truth. | ||
| And Jim Finnell and I wrote Embracing Communist China, America's Greatest Strategic Failure. | ||
| And that's available wherever the audience buys books. | ||
| Thanks, Ben. | ||
| Dr. Fair, thanks. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Great to catch up with you. | ||
| Thanks for coming on the show this morning. | ||
| Have a great weekend. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Now, we have a clip for Todd Benjamin. | ||
| We're not going to play it now. | ||
| We'll play it after the break. | ||
| Todd, good morning to you. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
| So the New York Times then has this article that bus by bus. | ||
| that migrants are being sent in across the border. | ||
| Could you just sort of, we only have like a couple of moments, a minute or so to the | ||
| break, could you just give us a teaser as to what's going on now, why the New York Times | ||
| itself of all newspapers is starting to show attention on this, and then we'll have your | ||
| clip after the break. | ||
| I think this article is a signal that sort of mainstream Democratic Party campaigners | ||
| want to create this new talking point in the immigration debate, in the campaign, which | ||
| is that it's the Republicans, it's Greg Abbott that is really causing a lot of trouble. | ||
| A lot of angst and pain with immigration by busing illegal immigrants who just crossed the border into Texas into New York and Denver and Washington and all these northern cities and creating a kind of a chaos there. | ||
| It's the Republicans. | ||
| I think this is kind of creating a new talking point for the Democrats. | ||
| You're going to start hearing all about this now, I promise you. | ||
| But the problem with the story is that, OK, we can wait till the break. | ||
| We've got the break coming up. | ||
| But in essence, basically, this democratic strategy is to gaslight the American people. | ||
| Be back after the break. | ||
| The speech was a reminder that Donald Trump is a menace who must be defeated. | ||
| And he is every bit the threat to democracy that he has been in his time in office and out of it. | ||
| And as he has been described over and over again. | ||
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And then we had that horrible, horrible result that we'll never let happen again. | |
| The election result, we're never going to let that happen again. | ||
| They use COVID to cheat. | ||
| You're never going to let it happen again. | ||
| We had that horrible, horrible result. | ||
| We'll never let that happen again. | ||
| The election result, we're never going to let happen again. | ||
| They use COVID to cheat. | ||
| You're never going to let that happen again. | ||
| He's not promising he's going to win. | ||
| He's saying he will not be defeated again no matter what it takes. | ||
| We're never going to let it happen again. | ||
| And that's not scripted. | ||
| That's him just riffing. | ||
| That's pure Trump. | ||
| A frank statement of his authoritarian plans. | ||
| And that's not just talk. | ||
| Those plans are already in motion. | ||
| Last week, the New York Times reporting the Republican Party and its conservative allies are engaged in an unprecedented legal campaign targeting the American voting system. | ||
| Quote, their wide-ranging and methodical effort is laying the groundwork to contest an election that they argue falsely is already being rigged against former President Donald J. Trump. | ||
| Keep in mind, they're up in the polls. | ||
| Currently. | ||
| They could just run an election, but they don't want elections. | ||
| They don't want democracy. | ||
| Trump and his allies do not want a free and fair election. | ||
| And so they are planning to institute an extreme agenda, including the largest deportation operation in history, as Trump promised in his speech, and it is laid out time and time again. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| Todd Bensman, I do want to discuss this New York Times article, but let's just pick up from what Chris Hayes was saying there on MSNBC. | ||
| and must be kept away from power through normal democratic means. | ||
| We got it in droves last night. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| Todd Bensman, I do want to discuss this New York Times article, but let's just pick up | ||
| from what Chris Hayes was saying there on MSNBC. | ||
| Do you think it's credible, before talking about the deportation thing, right, which | ||
| is I know one of your areas of great expertise. | ||
| But first, just a general question. | ||
| Do you think it's credible for MSNBC or the mainstream media in general to pitch themselves and the Democrats together as the great protectors of democracy and the idea that Donald Trump represents a threat to democracy when it's them? | ||
| Is this mainstream media And Democrat party complex that is trying to imprison my boss. | ||
| The reason I'm presenting the show today is because my boss is in prison, right? | ||
| It's the Democrats that are imprisoning their political opposition, as they famously, desperately tried to do to Donald Trump himself. | ||
| Who are the real threats to American democracy? | ||
| Is it Donald Trump or is it the Democrats and the mainstream media together? | ||
| Well, this isn't really my area of expertise, but I do have an opinion on it. | ||
| I just point to the effort to remove Donald Trump from 32 state ballots as a threat to democracy. | ||
| I mean, that was real. | ||
| They tried to do that. | ||
| Failed. | ||
| It had to go all the way to the Supreme Court. | ||
| But listen, I mean, it, it just comes off as sort of conspiracy theory, the way I, I don't know how they leap to threat to democracy from what Trump was saying. | ||
| To me, I read that as, uh, we want to prevent fraud. | ||
| Uh, we want to prevent irregularities from occurring. | ||
| Uh, if irregularities occur and we find evidence of fraud, then we'll act on that, investigate and do things to reverse the fraud. | ||
| Through legal processes, through normal legal means. | ||
| That's how I read that, what he says. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's pretty clear that the Democrats have exactly the same flexibility as they have on borders, open borders, as they do to ballot boxes, where they want open ballot boxes, basically, that anyone can stuff a whole load into. | ||
| It's all one of a piece. | ||
| And for the same reasons, I think. | ||
| We heard in the first segment with Dr. Bradley Thayer on the same subject that the Chinese, the CCP, is interested, has an interest, I should say, in ensuring that Donald Trump doesn't return to the White House in November. | ||
| And so there's obviously the whole suspicion of the importance of the election integrity issue with regards to the CCP coming into play as well. | ||
| So we just heard on that on that short video clip from Chris Hayes talking in sort of clutching at his pearls at the idea of this great deportation. | ||
| Could you sort of break that down a little bit and sort of give for an anticipation, an anticipation to the war in Posse, what they might expect post January the 20th of 2025 with regards to this great deportation? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| First, you have to establish and recognize that the greatest inflow of illegal immigrants into the United States has just taken place for three and a half years now. | ||
| So if you're going to reverse the effects of that, or you're going to just kind of reverse the consequences of that, you have to have an equal and opposite reaction to it in policy, which is going to be the largest deportation Operation in U.S. | ||
| history, too. | ||
| I mean, you had the biggest inflow that I didn't hear anybody complaining about that. | ||
| So a deportation operation like what they're talking about is going to be huge. | ||
| It has to be because there will be literally, you know, eight, nine million people in the country illegally that just got here illegally. | ||
| I'm not even talking about the population that was here before. | ||
| And a significant percentage, a too significant percentage of them are going to be criminal aliens. | ||
| We're seeing this happen all the time. | ||
| In his speech, the president said, we're going to reverse. | ||
| We're going to put your, your criminals back home. | ||
| So that is going to require a ramping up of personnel. | ||
| ICE only has about 6,000 officers right now. | ||
| They've been chained to their desks. | ||
| For the last three and a half years, he's going to have to unchain them, give them new priorities, but he's going to have to expand their ranks significantly. | ||
| What that means and how he's going to do that, he's not saying, but he's going to have to increase that from 6,000 to whatever, 10,000 or more to actually do this. | ||
| He's going to have to expand the detention facility infrastructure. | ||
| The Biden administration has been constantly contracting the bed space Closing facilities, canceling contracts with private detention operators. | ||
| Trump is going to have to get all that reversed so that there's a place to put all these people while we're finding air flights for them or scheduling their returns to Mexico or wherever they're going. | ||
| So there is an infrastructure. | ||
| There'll be a lag time to get this going. | ||
| But the very first thing he has to do is stop the hemorrhaging. | ||
| Uh, which is the easiest thing to do really inside of about an hour on day one, uh, inauguration hour at noon plus one hour, he could probably have the whole thing shut down so that there's no more significant numbers coming through. | ||
| Uh, that's number one. | ||
| And then he's got to start the deportation operations. | ||
| It's gotta be lawful. | ||
| He's going to be wanting to hit criminals first. | ||
| There's a lot of them. | ||
| And then he's going to want to go after, you know, judicial orders where there are removal | ||
| orders by a judge. | ||
| There are millions of those out there that need to be served. | ||
| And he should go after those next. | ||
| It's going to be a big, big job. | ||
| So, Benzmann, I'm intrigued by what you were saying. | ||
| I'm just slightly curious as to why you would want to let a whole hour, a whole 60-minute time frame lapse between putting the hand on the Bible and signing the executive order. | ||
| I mean, surely it could be basically one fluid movement, right? | ||
| Hand on the Bible, oath of office, and where's my pen? | ||
| Here's my pen. | ||
| That takes 30 seconds. | ||
| Let's go back to this New York Times thing, because I think what you're saying here is important as an illustration of how the strategy of the mainstream media to implement its gaslighting here on the American public. | ||
| You were saying before the break that they're pushing this argument now and they're finally talking, like the New York Times is finally talking about The immigration crisis. | ||
| But they're framing it in such a way, and they're doing this, to try and suggest that it's all the Republicans' fault. | ||
| It's all Governor Abbott's fault. | ||
| I could guess that for the people whose only source of news is MSNBC or the New York Times, some people in that audience might buy that. | ||
| But for the wider American public, Are they going to be persuaded by this that the immigration crisis is actually Republicans' fault, or will they just see this as an attempt at gaslighting so ludicrous it will just bounce back in Democrats' faces? | ||
| Well, I think stories like the New York Times and some of the big talking points about, you know, it's the Republicans' fault and it's a broken border, it's Trump's fault, it's The Democrats' fault for killing that piece of legislation that was so terrible. | ||
| All of that is predicated on a presumption on the Democratic Party side that the American public is really stupid. | ||
| And I don't believe that. | ||
| I think the American public is smart. | ||
| They can see what's going on all around them. | ||
| They believe that their eyes are not lying. | ||
| They see all around them in all these cities what's going on. | ||
| The mayor of Denver giving six months free, all paid residents to the hundreds of thousands | ||
| of immigrants and all the free stuff that's attracting everybody. | ||
| I think it's obvious that, you know, the crime that's being committed, murdered young women | ||
| and little girls. | ||
| I just don't think that the old style of the democratic presumption that people are just too stupid to be able to catch on to what they're doing is going to fly this time because it's just all around us. | ||
| You can read it on social media. | ||
| You don't need the New York Times anymore. | ||
| But about that New York Times story, if I could just say a couple of things, it's trying to regurgitate this old story that it's the Republican governor of Texas that's creating crises in the interior for political reasons. | ||
| And I just want to point out a couple of problems with that. | ||
| One is that every immigrant that gets on those buses in Texas, is on those buses voluntarily. | ||
| They sign a waiver saying, I understand they're taking advantage of a free bus ride. | ||
| They were going to go to these places anyway, with or without the free bus ride. | ||
| And the reason that they were going to go to these cities anyway is because those cities are the ones that are providing all the free stuff. | ||
| How do I know this? | ||
| Because I've interviewed thousands of the immigrants while they were still in Mexico on their way in, and that's what they tell me all the time. | ||
| Can I just give the context to what you're saying there? | ||
| Because this article itself in the New York Times reports Muriel Bowser, the mayor of Washington, is coming on record as saying that people who are being bused in from Texas have been tricked. | ||
| They've been tricked by Governor Abbott. | ||
| Is that what he's doing? | ||
| You know, I listened to what you just said. | ||
| I'm just wondering, it's a doubt in my mind now. | ||
| Perhaps the governor of Texas is tricking these, is duplicitously tricking these illegal migrants, the invaders, as they're called on this show, to go to Washington, D.C. | ||
| And not all the free stuff. | ||
| That the Democrats are handing out. | ||
| That's a false narrative. | ||
| I've been at the buses, the Texas buses, as they're loading up here in Texas. | ||
| I live in Austin. | ||
| Many times I've been in and around the whole operation and they have to sign a waiver in Spanish. | ||
| This whole thing is discussed and described at length before they ever step foot on the bus. | ||
| And they all talk amongst themselves on the bus. | ||
| That's a really hard trick to pull off for 80 people on a bus. | ||
| We've got a break. | ||
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| Sure. | ||
| Government gangsters are the group of individuals, career bureaucrats, who have been installed by what we call the Deep State into every agency and department in the United States government. | ||
| Had Donald Trump not won in 2016, he would not have exposed the flank of the Deep State and their weapon of choice, the two-tier system of justice. | ||
| From Russiagate, to Hunter Biden's laptop, to Joe Biden's classified documents case, to January 6th, to the 51 Intel letter, and everything in between. | ||
| We would never have learned that. | ||
| These people are dangerous and vindictive, learning from their mistakes and perfecting ways to hide their corruption. | ||
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It is finally time for a straightforward assessment of the state of our nation. | |
| Welcome back to the war room. | ||
| Todd Bensman, you were saying just before the break now about the strategy of the mainstream media, specifically on this occasion, both MSNBC and The New York Times. | ||
| … in two different areas, but allied areas, to perpetrate not just sort of propaganda on the American people, but gaslighting, confronting the American people with a narrative that conflicts with people's direct, day-to-day, empirical observations of reality. | ||
| I just wanted to tie this up, because we're coming up shortly. | ||
| To the handover to the legendary, to the great Dave Brat, who's going to take the second hour. | ||
| But before we get to Dave, could you just sort of wrap this up for me? | ||
| As a strategy, it might play well to the very core of the Democrat base, but for the floating voters in the middle, in these famous five states, which I think there are six states, Well, again, I think that people see this all around them. | ||
| They're not stupid. | ||
| People are, American voters are smart and savvy. | ||
| directly with a narrative that people themselves know is fake. | ||
| Well, again, I think that people see this all around them. | ||
| They're not stupid. | ||
| People are, American voters are smart and savvy. | ||
| And I think that they are going to see what's happening around them. | ||
| They're going to seek out information on social media. | ||
| It will reach them, what's going on in their immediate communities. | ||
| I want to point out one other thing is that, you know, there's a new narrative that's out there about how the number of illegal crossings are way down. | ||
| The numbers just came out for June. | ||
| And they do show a steep drop, but what the mainstream media is not telling people in the interior about those numbers, they're taking victory laps. | ||
| But what they're not saying is that there are three different other rails of importation absolutely raging right now, bringing in just hundreds of thousands of of illegal immigrants, but they're bringing them in by flight into places like New York, direct flights from foreign cities, at least 40,000 more a month of those at least, and another 40,000 being crossed over the land ports as well. | ||
| There's like 70 or 80,000 more Uh, a month and then another five or 10,000 being brought in as refugees. | ||
| They're calling them refugees, stamping them with this new, um, uh, sort of, uh, shoehorning them into the refugee system. | ||
| People that don't belong there have never been given refugee status. | ||
| And so the total numbers are far greater than what you're telling, what they're going to be telling you. | ||
| And I think the war room needs to understand, and all those interior states people, Need to understand that however they're getting in, they're coming with their hands out to your community. | ||
| Todd Bensman, amazing. | ||
| Thank you for this analysis. | ||
| Where can people go to keep up to date with your commentary on these things as they unfold? | ||
| Right, so I work for the Center for Immigration Studies, cis.org. | ||
| You can find all of my work there. | ||
| I'll be going to the Darien Gap, Columbia, and Panama in just another week or two. | ||
| And you can go to toddbensman.com to sign up for my newsletter there. | ||
| It's free and keep track of all my, you know, other media there, social media. | ||
| Sign on there. | ||
| Todd, outstanding. | ||
| Thanks very much indeed. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Have a great weekend. | ||
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All right. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| We've got two minutes just before the break and I'll hand over to Dave Pratt for the second hour. | ||
| Dave, good morning to you. | ||
| Before I sign off, I have a question for you, if I may. | ||
| We've got two minutes. | ||
| Do you think that Joe Biden is going to last the weekend? | ||
| I'm still stuck on that in the face of overwhelming evidence. | ||
| I'm just stuck on it because of Dr. Jill and the sun and the Hunter laptop. | ||
| And they want a fail-proof guarantee. | ||
| And it looks like the second scenario is the vice president, Harris, gets the nod. | ||
| She may not win. | ||
| Biden's chances of winning are probably better than hers. | ||
| And so the family's like, no way, Jose. | ||
| But I'm not a political expert. | ||
| I'm sitting here. | ||
| I'm more of an economist theologian, you know, like you. | ||
| It strikes me that the that the regency presidency of Dr. Jill Biden is drawing to a close. | ||
| And if he's not going to go, if President Magoo isn't going to go voluntarily, the Democratic Party elites are going to take control of this themselves, as they are doing. | ||
| Even Nancy Pelosi now has come out and said on the record that If Joe Biden should go, there needs to be an open convention in picking the successor, which isn't a particularly favorable comment for Kamala's point of view. | ||
| But I think you can see that. | ||
| I think you can see that the Democrats are managing this, the leading Democrats, because they're cutting, they're speaking to all the donors and the donors are cutting off the purse strings. | ||
| They're cutting off the money. | ||
| As someone who's been in Congress yourself, you'll know, even though, of course, famously you won. | ||
| But normally the general rule is, is that you need money to fight a campaign. | ||
| And if they're cutting off the oxygen supply and financing, I think it's pretty clear that whatever they're saying publicly, the Democratic Party are not looking to go into November with Joe Biden. | ||
| What they want is a candidate, as far as I can see, and you just quickly tell me in 30 seconds, what they're looking for is a candidate that isn't going to be a drag down ballot. | ||
| Yeah, no, I agree with that. | ||
| But the more they fight and put the pressure on the Bidens, the more the Bidens are going to get their back up against the wall and fight back. | ||
| And so that's there in a catch-22. | ||
| It's a doozy, but it's good theatre. | ||
| Dave Buck, thanks very much. | ||
| Have a great show coming up after 11. | ||
| Thanks, Ben. | ||
| William Posse, love you loads. | ||
| Great job. | ||
| Especially on the light. | ||
| Great job, Ben. | ||
| Thanks, Dave. | ||
| And I will catch your next week. | ||
| God bless. |
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