July 19, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| It's a paralysis and I wonder if that inability to sort of dig out of the crisis mode in terms of donors, in terms of stories, in terms of Democratic officials writing letters. | ||
| Jamie Raskin has a new letter out today that's searing and eloquent and devastating politically. | ||
| Um, for Joe Biden. | ||
| Former President Barack Obama reportedly has concerns about President Biden's ability to stay at the top of the ticket. | ||
| That's what two sources told NBC News. | ||
| The former president sees Biden's victory as quote, getting harder, one of the sources said. | ||
| The Washington Post reports former President Obama has said President Biden needs to seriously consider the viability | ||
| of his candidacy. | ||
| You now have Barack Obama having his concerns now. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi, the top Democrat in the Senate, the top Democrat in the House. | ||
| President Biden's top fundraiser telling him flat out, we just can't raise money. | ||
| All these sources have dried up. | ||
| And there is pushback from the Biden campaign. | ||
| And Mika read a statement last hour, growing anger. | ||
| Uh, especially the Obama faction that have been pushing, trying to push him out, saying these are the same people that this, I'm actually quoting what they said, these are the same people who gave us Donald Trump in 2016 by pushing Joe Biden out the last time. | ||
| Do they really want to do it again? | ||
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But reporters are now hearing from senior people inside Joe Biden's world who, a week ago, maintained that there was no way he was going to step down, who are now saying things like, we get it's over, it's a question of when, not whether. | |
| That is what people who work for Joe Biden and not junior people who work for Joe Biden, senior people, not at the very senior most levels, not the first lady, not his son, Hunter, but others who are seeing the writing on the wall. | ||
| And I think that for everybody's sake, whether you are, again, whether you're on the side of wanting Biden to stay in or wanting Biden to pull out, I think everyone would really like to, by the end of this weekend, No. | ||
| What the future is. | ||
| I think that the tide has turned against Joe Biden and if I had to bet, I think having the entirety of the leadership of his party now telling him, effectively telling him that he needs to step aside, would be very hard to maintain a candidacy in those circumstances. | ||
| But he might. | ||
| But either way, Uh, the party would be well served at the end of this Republican convention week with not very much time before the Democratic convention. | ||
| either way to know by Monday what the answer is. | ||
| It seems like they're closing in and the lack of fundraising, | ||
| drying up, these influential Democrats pushing him toward the door | ||
| remains to be seen if that just perhaps stiffens the president's resolve to stay in or | ||
| president's resolve to stay in or whether his inner circle and the president himself eventually bow | ||
| whether his inner circle and the president himself eventually bow to the reality that he can't win. | ||
| to the reality that he can't win. | ||
| One of the things that the president has cited that he will inform his decision | ||
| One of the things that the president has cited that he will inform his decision is to whether | ||
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is to whether or not he thinks if he's shown data that remains to be seen if that just perhaps stiffens the | |
| or not he thinks, if he's shown data, that someone else can beat Donald Trump and that's | ||
| someone else in particular, his vice president Kamala Harris. | ||
| And Michael Schmidt, you've been doing a lot of reporting on the vice president and this | ||
| delicate dance that she and her team have to conduct right now where they are publicly | ||
| fully supportive of President Biden. | ||
| I know that's been well received in the West Wing, but of course she and her allies recognize | ||
| that if the president does step aside, there could be an opportunity here. | ||
| But as Willie just noted, we don't know what would happen next if suddenly there's a vacancy at the top of the ticket, whether President Biden would say, look, I want you to go to my running mate, or whether this is some sort of open contest. | ||
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Yeah, what would that path look like? | |
| What is the precedent for it, and how much time is left on the clock to do that, and how would that be done at the convention? | ||
| What we wrote about yesterday was about how this has, behind the scenes, been a bit messy. | ||
| There have been different flare-ups where the Vice President's staff The staff has been concerned that in the process of trying to prop up the president's, you know, chances of winning that they've denigrated the vice president or that they were going to denigrate the vice president. | ||
| In one instance, learning that a staffer from the White House Legislative Affairs Office had been talking to a member of Congress and had may have, you know, basically said the vice president doesn't have have good enough chances of winning. That's why Biden has | ||
| to stay in the race. And this made its way all the way to the White House chief of staff, | ||
| who had to send out warnings to West Wing officials that, look, you know, we need to be very | ||
| careful in how we discuss the vice president here because of this unusual situation. We need to be able | ||
| to to advocate for the president without denigrating the vice president, because, you know, the you | ||
| know, I don't think the White House chief of staff said what I'm about to say, but because the vice | ||
| president could be the person on the ticket. And that's really hard, you know. | ||
| thing to navigate and they've had to really confront that in the past three weeks as they've | ||
| done this dance and as the vice president has probably had the best you know three weeks of | ||
| her time in office where she has really found her footing and been out there as sort of the | ||
| tip of the spear for the campaign. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
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I know you don't like hearing that. | |
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
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It's going to happen. | |
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| Friday 19th of July and. | ||
| Domini 2024. Hanwell here in the helm, covering in for Steve Bannon, presently sitting as | ||
| one of Joe Biden's political prisoners in a federal jail. | ||
| A lot has changed since I was last on the show. | ||
| I think I was last on the show Saturday before the assassination attempt. | ||
| I think when future historians come to write the official narrative of this election campaign, they're going to look at the 13th of July. | ||
| And divide it, basically, the story of this campaign into a before and after. | ||
| Now, one of the things that was before, and we've been discussing this on The War Room, I think, for the last three, six months, Steve Bannon obviously took the initiative on this, took the leadership position on this, saying that Joe Biden won't be the Democrat nominee. | ||
| I think before the assassination attempt, The most likely candidate to succeed Joe Biden would not have been Kamala Harris. | ||
| And I think that because before the assassination attempt, the Democrats still had a fantasy, a daydream that they might be able to win or keep the White House in November. | ||
| I no longer think that that's possible. | ||
| And therefore, as of course, the momentum to remove Joe Biden is still there. | ||
| And I'm going to suggest I will talk to my next guest now. | ||
| I think that the priority now for the Democrats is the down ballot campaigns to try to keep to take as many seats in the House and in the Senate as possible. | ||
| I think they're going to give up on the White House. | ||
| It's difficult to see now people like Gavin Newsom who would want to wait to throw away, willingly throw away their only chance at winning for the White House in a campaign that I don't think they think that they're going to win in November. | ||
| So casting around, they'll think, well, you know, if we're not going to run Gavin Newsom, we're not going to run Wichma or what have you. | ||
| Who are we going to put up? | ||
| And then, of course, I think, you know, well, there's a candidate there that I don't think is particularly popular amongst the Democratic elites. | ||
| And this is Kamala Harris herself. | ||
| I think now, actually, this could be her opportunity to stand. | ||
| And she will be for the Democratic Party, something of a sacrificial goat so that they can run a candidate. | ||
| She'll lose and then they can start concentrating and building a future around a more substantial figure. | ||
| Now, Charlie Spearing, you are the Daily Mail senior political correspondent. | ||
| You like Kamala Harris so much you even wrote the book on her. | ||
| Good morning to you. | ||
| Is this now her moment? | ||
| Is this now the moment of tackling Kamala? | ||
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Well, it certainly is. | |
| And when I first wrote the book, the introduction, I run through this scene of Biden's advisors really struggling with what they're going to do on the day they realize that Biden can't continue. | ||
| And what I write in the book is a big reason why they did that is because the reason why they've pushed Biden towards re-election, even though they weren't necessarily certain he could make it, was that Kamala Harris was not ready. | ||
| When Biden decided to run for re-election, Kamala Harris was not ready. | ||
| She had historically low approval ratings. | ||
| She was bad on the stump. | ||
| Her first three years were filled with mistakes and cautions and gaffes. | ||
| So that was a big part of it. | ||
| And now look at where we are today. | ||
| You saw in that Morning Joe clip where the reporter's talking about how Kamala has reasserted herself on the stage. | ||
| Well, that's very, very convenient for Democrats who have been, you know, ripping on her for years behind the scenes. | ||
| Now they suddenly want to lift her up and put her on a pedestal and give her another chance at a reboot. | ||
| And I really think that's where we're headed going forward. | ||
| As Biden steps down, I think that the major media outlets are going to give Kamala Harris a chance to reboot her image, even though she's been trying to do it repeatedly throughout her entire vice presidency. | ||
| But do you accept my thesis that now this actually could be her opportunity? | ||
| It seems to me that the momentum is so, especially after this convention in Milwaukee, it seems to me that the momentum is so clearly behind Donald Trump now. | ||
| You have, I mean, the Democrats have sort of pseudo substantial candidates that they might want to save for an opportunity, you know, perhaps against J.D. | ||
| in 2028 that they might want to hold back. | ||
| They might not want to burn on an election campaign that is looking ever more difficult for them. | ||
| For example, the Economist today had this poll up where they put Donald Trump already now at a plus three in the polls against Biden. | ||
| In fact, really, I think it's going back. | ||
| Biden hasn't been ahead against Trump since February. | ||
| Excuse me, since February, the momentum has only ever been increasing towards Trump. | ||
| And it hasn't been since September of last year that Biden's actually been ahead. | ||
| But what do you think to this thesis that now could actually be her moment for the Democrats to dump a candidate at the top of the list like a spare that's not popular, is seen to be even by Democrats as widely incompetent. | ||
| This could be the moment just to throw her out there. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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I think you're right, Ben. | |
| That's absolutely what they're going to do because for two reasons. | ||
| One, they cannot just leapfrog over Kamala Harris or push her aside without angering a significant portion of their base. | ||
| That's the very reason they chose her in the first place, to pick a candidate who could inspire a huge chunk of their base. | ||
| And so if they try to push her aside now, that would only anger their base. | ||
| And a lot of Kamala allies are behind the scenes warning the Biden team Hey, if you if you step down, Mr. President, you better back Kamala because she's had your back. | ||
| You know, there's a little bit of mixed history on that. | ||
| But at least she's right now, you know, has done everything she can to have Biden's back as he insists that he's going to stay in. | ||
| There's been no backstabbing yet, at least not that we know of. | ||
| There may be some some stuff behind the scenes. | ||
| But currently, Kamala Harris is doing everything she can to prove to voters and prove to donors that she will be a good soldier. | ||
| What's also interesting is that she is going to continue this way until they tell her that she can't. | ||
| The moment she finds out they're trying to push her out, watch out. | ||
| That could get very ugly. | ||
| So, yeah, obviously, because, you know, I don't think she would have a serious. | ||
| I don't know if I if I buy the line that the Democrats would sort of sort of constrained and obliged to run her in November. | ||
| I think there would have been enough forces within Democratic leadership to push for an open convention simply because it's so important that for the down ballot. | ||
| We'll talk about this after the break, if I may, to talk about the down ballot push now, which is All important for the Democrats, because if they're now waking up to the reality that they are going to lose on November the 5th, it's absolutely imperative of them to try and take as many seats as they can in Congress, in the House and in the Senate. | ||
| Charlie, just tell me quickly. | ||
| Do you just say yes or no in 10 seconds? | ||
| Do you think Kamala would have had the gravitas to face down the rest of the bigwigs in the party if Biden had pushed for an open convention? | ||
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Probably, you're saying that if the bigwigs pushed for an open convention... Hold on, hold on. | |
| Democratic Party that are trying to push or shove, I think, are doing a disservice to all of the work that has been done in the last three and a half years by the Biden-Harris administration. | ||
| So again, I'm not saying he should move out. | ||
| I'm not pushing for him to step aside. | ||
| I'm pushing for us to have a very unemotional, clear perspective on how we salvage the progress that has been made in the last three and a half years and move forward because we have real danger, which was demonstrated last night by Donald Trump. | ||
| We'll have real danger to all of those achievements. | ||
| Back here in Steve Bannon's War Room with Charlie Spearing, senior political reporter for the Daily Mail. | ||
| Charlie, just before the break, I was trying to, I mean, you studied her, you've written about her, you've written a book about her, Amateur Hour. | ||
| You have, you've weighed her personality, her abilities or lack thereof. | ||
| Do you think what is the next step now? | ||
| Because I think it's clear, you know, we saw this in the cold open at the beginning of the show. | ||
| It's absolutely clear that the Democrat machinery is performing what I called, I think last week on my Getter feed, the discard. | ||
| They are discarding the president, the current. | ||
| illegitimate president of the United States. | ||
| They are discarding him now in full open sight. | ||
| We see the leaks, the soundings from Pelosi, from Adam Schiff, from Barack Obama. | ||
| It's clear at this level now when these soundings are coming out and these sort of councils | ||
| to Biden. | ||
| It's clear that Biden's previous line, that as long as he gave it his best shot, isn't good enough for the Democrats, who will definitely want to be taking the Speaker's gavel in the House of Representatives. | ||
| And do you think, having studied Kamala Harris, that she has the gravitas To face down people like Joe Biden as this decision is being made over this weekend in case Biden wanted to go to an open convention. | ||
| Do you think she has the gravitas within the party, the natural personal authority to talk Biden out of it and just simply to anoint her or even potentially to give way as president before November, so she can actually run in the election | ||
| as president of the United States itself. | ||
| Does she have this kind of gravitas with people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer | ||
| and the other big wigs in the party, Barack Obama, Jill Biden, everyone who has a voice on this? | ||
| Do you think she has the stature with these people to beat them into line? | ||
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Yeah, certainly with Joe Biden, she's earned a lot of capital with Joe Biden, right? | |
| She helped him win the election. | ||
| She's been, you know, relatively more or less behind him as he goes forward into re-election. | ||
| So in many ways, Biden owes her. | ||
| The other, the one that's interesting is Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi is not a Kamala fan. | ||
| She never fully endorsed Kamala to be on the ticket. | ||
| And so Pelosi perhaps does not respect Kamala's claim to the throne, as it were. | ||
| But I think that there's two reasons why they would want to avoid a messy sort of convention selection process. | ||
| It would be very difficult to have that. | ||
| But even if Kamala didn't want that, she could probably pull off a win because she has the name ID, the national name ID, and more voters are familiar with her than sort of your other candidates. | ||
| Maybe you're Josh Shapiro's or you're Gavin Newsom's or you're or you're Gretchen Whitmer's. | ||
| So that's her one advantage, however, you know, and maybe she would rather prefer that | ||
| because she could actually earn it rather than just being anointed. | ||
| But as you were saying before the break, at this point, if it's looking so unlikely for | ||
| the Democrats to win the White House, to keep the White House on November the 5th, an expendable | ||
| candidate that has no real future at the top of the ticket in any other context, the Common | ||
| House would be the perfect solution for them now. | ||
| They play that card now. | ||
| Get it out of the way. | ||
| And then move on to someone more substantial, for example, from the shortlist that you're just running through in 2028. | ||
| That's great. | ||
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I mean, it's really like what what Democrat with a bright political future wants to step into this mess and try to take out Trump in just a couple of months? | |
| That's a very high task to ask and I don't think that necessarily a Gretchen Whitmer or Gavin Newsom or a Josh Shapiro or any other of these like these like budding political Democrat stars, I don't know if they want to risk their political future in this messy race with when Donald Trump is already stomping all over Democrats across the country. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And from the point of view of the American public, you know, I didn't mean to be cynical | ||
| when I say this, but Kamala Harris, the vice president of the United States, is effectively | ||
| a DEI hire. | ||
| She was appointed for specific criteria that Biden had announced that she's a woman, she's | ||
| black. | ||
| And that's what he said he was going to appoint as his running mate. | ||
| And that's why he picked her. | ||
| She wasn't picked on the account of her abilities. | ||
| I think a legitimate question when we saw, when we see again and again and again the | ||
| footage of this assassination attempt and you see this under-trained FBI agent unable, | ||
| flapping and floundering around, unable even to holster her gun properly. | ||
| And you're thinking, you know, OK, so look, this thing about the political correctness, the wokeness. | ||
| Across, you know, in the armed forces, in the security, sort of security agencies, these these things actually have visible knock on consequences. | ||
| I think Americans, it would be legitimate to say, do we even want to see this now? | ||
| It's probably a question for a later point once we know who the Democratic nominee will be. | ||
| But I think it's a legitimate question to say, do we want to see this kind of underperforming incompetence now at the top of the at the top of the ticket? | ||
| potentially with the football, with the hands on the nuclear code. | ||
| Perhaps it's probably a moment to take a step back. | ||
| This is why I don't think Kamala was necessarily the shoo-in she believed she was up until a week ago. | ||
| But it's absolutely clear, I think, and I'd like to ask your opinion on this. | ||
| It's absolutely clear after the chaos and incompetence surrounding the assassination attempt against Donald Trump last Saturday. | ||
| Perhaps the wokery has gone too far. | ||
| The appointment of people to tick boxes has gone too far. | ||
| America, of all countries, needs to return back to something elemental in its DNA, which is the promotion of people because of their merits. | ||
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Yeah, and I think you're going to see the American media giving Kamala Harris a chance to prove herself on merit, even though everything she's done so far has been kind of lacking. | |
| I think right now, Kamala, the best thing going for Kamala is that she can walk down a flight of stairs and deliver a speech. | ||
| And wow, she could actually compete in a debate. | ||
| You know, Kamala Harris, actually, you know, despite of all the word salads and the moments of missteps and the bad moments in the first three years, she was a candidate because she's actually a pretty good debater. | ||
| She debated Mike Pence quite well during their debate, and she also was the one that took shots at Joe Biden and landed effective blows during the primary. | ||
| Now, it didn't help her necessarily in the polls, But I do think that if she can show up and deliver a good speech, she can show up and deliver a good debate performance, I think she could definitely debate better than Joe Biden did in the presidential debate. | ||
| And she's thirsty for that. | ||
| She wants to debate Donald Trump and has been wanting to do that her entire career. | ||
| So I do think that a couple of effective speeches, a couple of effective debate performances, she could very well earn the love and respect of the | ||
| Democratic Party, as crazy as it seems. | ||
| I think when you compare it to Biden, I think that the Democrats will be | ||
| slightly more inclined to back her at this point. | ||
| You don't think, on the other hand, that winning a debate against Mike Pence is like winning a | ||
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debate against a bucket of soggy cardboard? Well, that debate famously, the fly won that | |
| debate because the fly landed on Mike Pence. | ||
| And that's all anyone ever remembers about the entire thing. | ||
| I think it's the only thing worth remembering. | ||
| How do you think she would fare against someone like JD Vance in the debate? | ||
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Well, I think she would do quite well. | |
| And, you know, JD Vance is thoughtful and intellectual and can really make it Back and forth. | ||
| But Kamala has the political experience of launching attacks and landing them. | ||
| We saw her do it so many times when she was in the Senate. | ||
| These kind of self-serving moments on Capitol Hill during these Senate hearings, really tormenting Trump officials on the stand. | ||
| Her experience as a prosecutor really makes her effective in this. | ||
| So I do think that she would perform well in a debate against Vance. | ||
| Well, we'll be watching as events unfold. | ||
| Donald Trump even, you know, because Donald Trump, you know, doesn't tend to to really | ||
| charge, you know, unless he goes hard charging. | ||
| Even Donald Trump can be kind of rattled on the debate stage. | ||
| And I think that Kamala Harris would would do fairly well in both instances. | ||
| Well, we'll be we'll be watching as events unfold. | ||
| I think there's going to be a lot of movement possibly tomorrow, Saturday, certainly over | ||
| the weekend on behalf of the democratic side. | ||
| By Monday, I think we'll have a lot clearer view on how they're going to approach November. | ||
| Charlie Spearing, thanks for coming on the show. | ||
| Where can folks go, for example, to get your Amateur Hour book on Kamala and your go-to source at the Daily Mail as well? | ||
| How can people stay up with your analysis? | ||
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Yeah, follow me on X at Charlie Spearing, on Truth Social at Charlie Spearing. | |
| And yeah, do check out the book, Amateur Hour, Kamala Harris and the White House. | ||
| It's available in bookstores now and certainly on Amazon and other places you can find books. | ||
| I think you'll probably need to do a second edition if she gets the nomination and get a second wind behind the book. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| I've read portions of it. | ||
| It's absolutely fantastic. | ||
| And I would definitely recommend it to the Wolverine posse. | ||
| Charlie, thanks very much for coming on the show. | ||
| It's been great catching up with you. | ||
| Thanks, Charlie. | ||
| Well, stand by, folks, for the break. | ||
| Afterwards, we'll be up with Congressman Bob Goode, Chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, and very much a favourite here on The War Room. | ||
| Stand by, we'll be back after the break. | ||
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Music Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann | |
| Music Welcome back to The War Room. | ||
| We're here with Congressman Bob Goode, Chairman of the House Freedom Caucus. | ||
| Congressman Goode, good morning to you. | ||
| Thanks for coming back on the show. | ||
| Thinking about the events over recent days, the assassination attempt against Donald Trump, and then, of course, the Republican convention in Milwaukee, the thought that strikes me is that not even since Reagan have we seen now a nominee who is so independent of any lobby, of the military industrial complex, of the donors, of Fox News. | ||
| I don't think we've ever seen before in the modern era a nominee that is so in command of the party and of popular support behind the party as opposed to any interest group. | ||
| And for a lot of the things that you've been working on as chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, this is a good thing, right? | ||
| That we have someone here who's so sympathetic, for example, to your views and now might actually have a chance to try and implement them. | ||
| Well, clearly, all you have to do is look at that the country is far worse off under Joe Biden. | ||
| Everyone is suffering under Joe Biden's policies. | ||
| Everyone was far better off under the four years of President Trump. | ||
| And the great advantage that President Trump has is his record compared to Joe Biden, the things that he accomplished. | ||
| Only the illegal aliens are better under Joe Biden. | ||
| We were more secure under President Trump. | ||
| We were stronger on the national stage. | ||
| We had a secure border. | ||
| We were safer. | ||
| Certainly, we were more prosperous with almost no inflation whatsoever. | ||
| Now we've suffered through some 30 percent inflation over the last four years with Joe Biden. | ||
| We've got, as we mentioned, the open borders. | ||
| We've got the diminishment of our energy production. | ||
| We're paying higher gas prices, utility prices. | ||
| Can I ask you about the assassination attempt? | ||
| American people are suffering under Joe Biden, and that's the greatest case for President | ||
| Trump. | ||
| Can I ask you about the assassination attempt? | ||
| You've obviously been studying it as closely as anyone else. | ||
| From what is currently known and confirmed, do you have any questions? | ||
| I mean, do you have any suspicions about this? | ||
| Do you think the shooter was a lone wolf or do you think there are so many lapses that it can't simply be incompetence and that there's perhaps other agents working in the background? | ||
| Well, we've all got more questions than we do answers at this point, and that's part of the problem. | ||
| And while we're all grateful as we mourn the loss of life of the heroic firefighter who was lost to trying to save his own family, and we pray for those who were victimized, those who were wounded along with President Trump, and we're thankful that today we're having a very different conversation that we might have for just a quarter of an inch difference in the shot. | ||
| We're thankful that President Trump is with us. | ||
| We're reminded of the frailty, the brevity of life, the preciousness of life. | ||
| And yet we have very few in the way of answers that we're confident in from this secret service. | ||
| We know that the director lied immediately, lied initially in saying that the local police were responsible for the outer perimeter. | ||
| And of course, that's been debunked by the Butler police. | ||
| And of course, she gave this silly argument that the slope of the roof prevented it from being secured by Secret Service, which is ridiculous, obviously. | ||
| But what we do know is it was an abysmal failure, and we have very little confidence in this diversity hire. | ||
| That's what the Biden administration does, from Kamala Harris through Director Cheadle, a diversity hire who is focused on the diversity or the DEI policies of her agency to the cost of the effectiveness, obviously, of the agency. | ||
| And so we're going to hold her accountable. | ||
| She ought to resign. | ||
| But irrespective of her employment status, she needs to be held accountable for this massive failure that has placed America in a much less safe, much, much less secure position because of the failure of her agency and her department. | ||
| But do you think there was anything anyone else beyond the shooter that was involved in this? | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| But as you know, we've got the reports of a threat from Iran, which should have heightened security, not diminished security. | ||
| I do have to say, while I have no confidence in the Biden administration or this director, Cheadle, and again, they've got to answer a lot of questions, and the speaker and others, our chairman of our committees, are right to subpoena them and hold them accountable. | ||
| I do have to say, it's hard to imagine that the conspiracy folks who might be out there would put their faith and trust in this 20-year-old, untrained, seemingly not particularly competent individual, and yet he was able to pierce the security measures of the Secret Service. | ||
| The reports are, of course, he was acting suspiciously around the magnetometers, that he was, you know, put a ladder up to the building, he was carrying a backpack, later he's seen with a firearm, with a rifle, and yet there was seemingly nothing really done to prevent the threat until after the shots had already been fired and then he was eliminated. | ||
| So, but it is hard to imagine that they wouldn't work with someone a little more professional, this young man, for those Who would have nefarious or malfeasance intended for the United States and for the former president, President Trump, our next president. | ||
| Well, let's break that down, because talking about his competence, that was, and I've seen reports, The Daily Telegraph, for example, that broke this down basically millisecond per millisecond. | ||
| That guy, Thomas Crooks, he had his shot up until about four hundredths of a second Before the bullet sliced President Trump's ear, that shot was a clean shot and would have hit the back of President Trump's skull. | ||
| It would have been a fatal shot. | ||
| President Trump, basically, at the last moment, and we've all seen the footage, the breakdowns of this, he turned to indicate a chart and the bullet therefore sliced. | ||
| For instance, the second difference, which would have changed human history for the fact that that guy was not that he had a clear…when he lined up, when his brain…this is the Daily Telegraph. | ||
| It's London's Daily Telegraph, serious Portuguese paper. | ||
| When it did its account on this, it basically did it, as I say, millisecond by millisecond, and said that when, in terms of human Action. | ||
| When the guy's brain, the shooter, the assassin's brain, the guy's brain, sent the signal to the finger to fire, that would have been a fatal shot. | ||
| And of course, you know, it took a few milliseconds for the bullet, you know, for the gun to operate, for the round to come out, for it to travel 137 yards to President Trump. | ||
| But basically, when that line was shot up, when he decided to pull the trigger, that was a fatal shot. | ||
| Trump moved at the last second. | ||
| So I don't know how incompetent he was. | ||
| He looks like a geek, like a nerd, in the photos that we've seen on him. | ||
| Perhaps he'd been doing a little bit more work since the time he was famously kicked out of his university rifle club. | ||
| There's too much there. | ||
| You know, you cited some of the queries that you have. | ||
| It's so difficult to know in reading this, especially when you're looking on social media, | ||
| what's the, what are actually true things and what's just being put out there by trolling agents. | ||
| But the thing that most concerned me, Congressman Good, is that I, that one of the, one of the, | ||
| there are accounts there that one of the counter snipers behind the president had the guy in his sights | ||
| ask for permission to shoot. | ||
| Permission was denied because it was not the FBI's policy or the security services, the US SS policy. | ||
| …to shoot someone who had not yet engaged. | ||
| Now look, I read American papers, I follow the American news. | ||
| That is absolutely…I can't believe that is true. | ||
| I have seen footage on YouTube of people being shot dead by the police because they had a knife in their hand that they refused to drop. | ||
| And there are no hostages, no potential hostages around. | ||
| The police just shoot them dead. | ||
| When they say drop, if you don't drop, they will shoot you. | ||
| Now if that's walking down the street, right, and as I say, zero innocence, zero people standing by, that could possibly be in imminent danger. | ||
| I cannot believe it is the case that an assassin can get it there in commando position, have a rifle pointed at the former and future | ||
| president's head and the secret service says, well, you know, he hasn't engaged yet. | ||
| We're not going to shoot. | ||
| That just seems if that is absolutely true, then I think it's clear that the conspiracy | ||
| theories are true. | ||
| That's simply those two. | ||
| You put these factors side by side and I think it becomes apparent that there's more going on here. | ||
| I think I personally think there is more going on here than it just being a lone wolf. | ||
| But I did want to hear your point of view. | ||
| Congressman, could you just give us a quick update whilst you're here on the show? | ||
| We've got a few minutes. | ||
| What's going on in the 5th District of Virginia with your, I hope, successful calls for a recount? | ||
| What's the latest news on that? | ||
| Thank you for asking. | ||
| We had our first preliminary hearing yesterday, and the recount has been set for Thursday, August 1, two weeks from yesterday. | ||
| That will allow us to reassess the ballots, to question the ballots that are problematic, and there'll be a three-judge panel who'll preside over that. | ||
| And so it's going to be a costly endeavor. | ||
| It's going to cost us about $150,000, but we know that we need to do this. | ||
| We need to proceed with this. | ||
| I believe our race has national implications with respect to holding the House, and I believe it has implications on President Trump's ability to win Virginia, and we've got to pursue this. | ||
| We just want to make sure truth is revealed, ultimately, in what was the true voter intent of the 63,000 legal and lawful participants in this race who voted in the primary, and so we'll do that on August 1. | ||
| The 1st of August. | ||
| And this is basically a full ballot recount. | ||
| Every single individual ballot will be counted and tallied against the computer record. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| How does it work? | ||
| That's my understanding. | ||
| Again, we had that preliminary hearing yesterday. | ||
| We will have time between now and August 1 to confirm exactly what the three-judge panel is going to let us do. | ||
| But our desire would be to have a paper ballot match, a hand recount, to confirm the true intent of the voters who participated legally and lawfully. | ||
| So the judges still have some discretion over what type of recount might take place? | ||
| That is true. | ||
| What the law does provide is that we can have a recount because we're at a zero point six percent margin that falls within the margin which entitles us to have a recount. | ||
| And but the judges, like almost all court proceedings, do have some latitude there on what they're able to permit or what discretion they can apply. | ||
| And so, again, we're going to be pushing for the most robust, vigorous, exhaustive recount that we can possibly achieve. | ||
| You mentioned that threshold is one percent, isn't it? | ||
| It's 0.6%. | ||
| Yeah, if it's less than 1% you can have one, but we're at 0.6%. | ||
| OK, that's tiny. | ||
| And does the amount of fundraising... I'll ask you in a moment for your details, for your campaign's details, if folks want to consider supporting, which I strongly recommend. | ||
| But in a moment. | ||
| But does the amount of fundraising you're seeking to do depend on what type of recount you get to have? | ||
| Will this recount on the 1st of August be definitive? | ||
| Well, the more robust the recount is, the broader that they allow us to be in terms of examining the ballots by hand, and then the more expensive that it will be. | ||
| So we're hopeful that, frankly, it's going to be an expensive recount because that's better for us. | ||
| So I think you said $150,000, right? | ||
| That's the estimate at this point, yes. | ||
| And that would be able to finance the full ballot by ballot hand recount, would it? | ||
| Well, that's the amount that it's going to cost. | ||
| The state's going to charge us nearly $100,000 to do the recount and then the attorney fees that we're going to have to pay. | ||
| The estimate we've been given to prepare for is about $150,000 total at this point. | ||
| And when the judges decide on which kind of recount they're going to allow, is it is it is it done on a state by state basis according to precedent? | ||
| How do they how do they determine this? | ||
| Well, it's within Virginia law. | ||
| So state law does apply. | ||
| And then again, the discretion of the judges on where we will be making our case on what we think is questionable, where we think there might be errors and mistakes, things that we think are suspicious that we want to take a closer look at. | ||
| And we'll see what the judges allow us to do. | ||
| OK. | ||
| And so the result was it was confirmed yesterday that there'd be a recount. | ||
| The recount itself will be on the 1st of August. | ||
| And between now and the 1st of August, these three judges will decide what type of recount there's actually going to be. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| Yes, we'll be making our case and presenting the evidence that we have and the concerns that we have. | ||
| And we'll see what the judges, again, allow us to do on August 1. | ||
| OK, Congressman, would you stand by just for a couple of moments and we'll come back after the break and finish this up. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| I've said it before on the show, I'll say it again, I would like to see Donald Trump produce an executive order renominating you, renaming you from Congressman Goode to Congressman. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| I hope we'll see something like that. | ||
| So between now and the 1st of August, there are a lot of people here, and I know because I read all my comments on my Gatsby, a lot of people that really love you and the great, great work that you've been doing, not only as a congressman, but also as a chairman of the House Freedom Caucus. | ||
| What can what can folks do? | ||
| What can the warm and posse do beyond donating? | ||
| And I'll ask now how they might donate to your legal fund for this recap. | ||
| But what can they do that might help Politically, if you will, within the Virginia context to support you in this initiative. | ||
| Well, they can go to bobgoodforcongress.com and support us financially, as you noted. | ||
| But the other thing that they can do is to continue to pressure and lobby their state legislators to secure their respective elections. | ||
| This is a 50-state solution, and the Constitution gives the state legislators the primary responsibility for elections. | ||
| And we are not secure to the degree that we should be, and our election has demonstrated that processes and procedures are not being followed. | ||
| We almost operate with the assumption that no one would ever try to do anything nefarious or no malfeasance would ever be attempted. | ||
| And we're very vulnerable to that effect. | ||
| And so we've got a lot of work to do. | ||
| We got a lot of work to do between now and November, that effect. | ||
| But it's responsibilities on each state to do that. | ||
| And everybody needs to hold their elected officials accountable to that effect. | ||
| Thank you, Congressman. | ||
| When are you expecting the next updates in this process? | ||
| Well, I would say we're going to know shortly after August 1. | ||
| We'll see how long it takes. | ||
| We're going to attempt to do it in one day, but it's going to take a long time for some of these counties and cities to do it. | ||
| But we'll have boots on the ground there, observers and challengers and so forth, and we'll see what we can accomplish on August 1. | ||
| And when will the judges decide which form of recount they're going to consent to? | ||
| It'll be between now and August one. | ||
| I don't know the particulars exactly how to do it. | ||
| This is my first rodeo on a recount, but we'll be making our case on the things that we want to be examined and looked at. | ||
| And that's we've been gathering that over the last four weeks, of course, doing our investigative work to try to make the best case that we can and to challenge as much as we think deserves to be challenged. | ||
| OK, got it. | ||
| So I hope you come back on the show straight away. | ||
| We're obviously broadcasting right throughout August. | ||
| Come back on the show, please, the moment you have an update on this and debrief the policy. | ||
| Congressman Goode, thank you very much for coming on the show. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Great to be with you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Mark Paoletti, good morning to you. | ||
| Ben, good morning. | ||
| So we've had a very momentous few days, right, from Brussels, Pennsylvania, and then the Republican convention in Milwaukee. | ||
| What are your takeaways of the last few days? | ||
| I mean, I said at the beginning of the show that I think future historians will look back on this period, | ||
| specifically Saturday, July 13th, as one of these defining points that splits the campaign into before | ||
| and after. | ||
| Do you agree with that? | ||
| Do you think the assassination attempt was that fundamental? | ||
| It throws everything into those two categories. | ||
| And how do you think that's going to play out now over the next four months? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know, Saturday was just a life changing campaign, history changing event. | ||
| To see President Trump be shot and stand up and want to signal to his supporters to fight on, and he would not be. | ||
| He was representative of Donald Trump through his entire life, through his presidency, through | ||
| the assault on him since he's left their presidency, culminating with this assassination attempt. | ||
| The way he handled it, and then last night, his talking about it, Ben, was just epic. | ||
| I'm always an optimist. | ||
| You're seeing the exposure of the Democrat Party, of the media. | ||
| They are just exposed to the hilt, right? | ||
| They want to move on from Saturday. | ||
| They want to now do this coup on their Democrat nominee, who has all, you know, 14 million Democrats have voted for this guy. | ||
| This is their guy. | ||
| And now the backroom deals to take Joe Biden out, who was their vessel. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| But coming off of this convention, you know, from Saturday, it's just amazing how much has happened in the past several days. | ||
| But the Republican convention was fantastic. | ||
| Best it's been and certainly in my lifetime, the most unified the Republican Party has been. | ||
| You saw President Trump picking J.D. | ||
| Vance this week, another superb selection. | ||
| And you see the media and how they turn on people, how they want to distort things. | ||
| They're conspiracies, the Democrats flailing around. | ||
| So yes, July 13th will be remembered as a defining moment in our history, the iconic photo of President Trump. | ||
| And as Tucker pointed out last night, right, President Trump stood up. | ||
| He settled the crowd. | ||
| They didn't run. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| And it was just, yeah, it was just a defining moment that we're all going to remember where we were when we learned this. | ||
| And then when, you know, with Twitter and X, you know, bringing these images to you, you know, seeing these images of President Trump going down, getting back up is just, you're going to remember for your lifetime. | ||
| Mark, the Warren posse will know you from the Center for Renewing America as a cool analytical mind, often breaking down stuff for us developments on the Supreme Court. | ||
| Let me ask you, let me let me tap into that cool analytical mind that you have in the next minute or so before we go up to the break. | ||
| You've been sitting like this, sort of the assassination attempt, much like I think the rest of the world, certainly the rest of America. | ||
| Do you think I'll ask you this as I ask Congressman Goode this. | ||
| Do you think that this was just simply a lone wolf? | ||
| Or do you think there's so much that went wrong that it can't simply be incompetence? | ||
| But bad faith would be a reasonable thing to assume at this point until we know all the facts. | ||
| Was it this lone shooter, Thomas Crooks, or were there others behind this? | ||
| Look, the Secret Service did a terrible job on that day. | ||
| And let's just get the facts. | ||
| It was so awful. | ||
| You know, it's tough to understand how, you know, a rooftop that's 150 yards away can be left unguarded and all that. | ||
| So what I'm focused on, so I'm glad the Congress and the Republicans and the Democrats should be, too, wanting to get answers to call them in. | ||
| It's unbelievable to me that Mayorkas ...is preventing the Secret Service Director from coming up. | ||
| But it shows you that the Democrats don't want to discuss the truth or discuss, you know, like, facts about what happened. | ||
| So I think it's important to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| But God bless President Trump. | ||
| It was divine intervention that kept him alive, as the president said, by the grace of God last night. | ||
| And so that's what I'm focused on. |
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