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Episode 3759: WarRoom RNC Special Day 2
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jonathan lemire
is shows you how the party has changed since 2016. In 2016, he picked Mike Pence because
back then he needed some help from evangelicals. He had to reassure some Republicans that he
could be the choice. That is no longer the case. This is not any sort of even somewhat
moderate Republican like a Rubio or a Brigham. This is full on MAGA. This is his ideological
heir apparent. This is Trump and his team feeling very confident, very confident about
where they stand in this election to allow them to go to Vance.
It's also a push here to play on the economic populism and nationalism that has
worked with Trump voters, white working class voters, particularly in those rust belt states that.
We all believe we'll decide this election.
The Vance pick is one they believe Ohio, of course, no longer a battleground state.
It's pretty deeply red at this point.
But now Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan and particularly Pennsylvania, Western Pennsylvania, they think is now Vance helps solidifies their case there.
And we should note, Willie, that the Vance and Trump, their relationship really blossomed in the wake of the East Palestine train crash.
Vance was an outspoken critic of the Biden administration's response.
That moment, according to Trump Camp, when Trump went out there, they see as key to his political comeback.
It was not long after the disastrous 2022 midterms.
They saw the response Trump got there and believed that could still be a winning coalition going forward.
rachel maddow
Are you worried that Senator Vance is proposing a sort of procedural radicalism, saying he would do what Trump wanted Mike Pence to do, even though Mike Pence wouldn't do it?
Suggesting that Trump shouldn't follow court orders, shouldn't even follow Supreme Court rulings.
There's an argument that's been made.
I don't think Senator Vance is a very high-profile figure yet. And so I'm not sure how well this has
translated broadly to the public, but that argument has been made about him that he's proposing a
form of sort of procedural radicalism for Trump that is more radical than even Trump
has suggested in the past.
Do you subscribe to that?
unidentified
So there is a plan, right, written down on paper to transition American democracy to
autocracy.
There is a very mainstream element of the Republican Party and Trump's infrastructure that is very thoughtful about how they are going to end democratic norms.
J.D.
Vance is part of that infrastructure.
He has been fairly public in his antipathy for democracy.
There is just a dominant strain in the Republican Party and some of the sort of thin intellectual veneer that covers Trumpism that J.D.
Vance is a big part of that simply believes that democracy is antiquated, that it doesn't work any longer, that we would be better off If we just had one person in charge and the rest of us were
stripped of our rights and that we put men back in charge, that we created this nation in a new cloak of Christian
nationalism, that's where JD fell.
Vance comes from, and he talks of good game, but if you really listen to him, he is being picked in part because he is going to help shape this transition away from democratic norms, this transition to a white, patriarchal, Christian-dominated nation, something that's very different, right, than the nation that many of us have thought we have been a part of this many years.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
jonathan lemire
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
jonathan lemire
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
unidentified
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
Welcome to The War Room.
natalie winters
It's Natalie G. Winters hosting live from Milwaukee at the RNC today, Tuesday, July 16th in the year of our Lord 2024.
Quite the evening we had last night.
It was great to see President Trump as always and of course the selection of J.D.
Vance.
As his vice president, we broke it down yesterday a little bit on the afternoon show, but I'm honored to be able to bring in Dr. Darren J. Beattie to sort of walk the War Room Posse through why we think JD Vance is such a good choice.
I also have, if you want to go to the two-shot, the one and only Raheem, also Raheem J. Kassam, right?
We like to do middle initials here in the War Room.
raheem kassam
J's are all good.
J's are the good ones.
That's how you know.
What's yours?
G!
Yeah, we don't like that.
J's over G's, definitely.
natalie winters
I think G's better.
raheem kassam
Ask Darren.
natalie winters
Well, Darren J. Beatty, emphasis on the J. You have been a strong proponent of J.D.
Vance.
I would love for you to sort of walk us through this decision, but particularly I've gotten a lot of comments from the War Room Posse last night, how we sort of reconcile with the fact that he has made some Never Trump remarks in the past and why you think that he was indeed a good selection for President Trump to make.
darren j beattie
Absolutely.
First of all, I'd like to say it's great to be with you, Natalie.
It's great, especially great to be with Rahim.
You know, it's nostalgic.
I remember the old days, the old days of War Room.
It kind of brings me back to that.
We had some great, great times in the early days of War Room, and it makes me think of Steve and everything that's happened.
So great to be here.
And yes, about Dan, you know, Revolver News, I'm very proud that we, just like The War Room, we're always ahead of the curve.
It's almost unfair.
The people who watch War Room and read Revolver.News, the advantage they have in terms of being on the bleeding edge of political developments, it's almost Unfair.
Like when you think about how we wrote a whole thing about Elon taking over Twitter before it was public.
He was even interested to the color revolution series to the January 6th thing and then calling for JD Vance explaining why he would be the great choice.
We ran this like four months ago.
And I think it's a critical piece for people to read if they're not familiar with Vance and who he is.
It's up there at revolver.news right now.
And yes, as you pointed out, he wasn't always for Trump, but he was for Trump in a deeper sense that, you know, his entry into the political stage is through this book called Hillbilly Elegy.
And that book really sort of captured in a deep sense The underlying developments going on in the country that helped pave the way for the success of the Trump movement, the America First movement, the movement that was concerned with fixing our trade deals, fixing our immigration problems, fixing our foreign policy problems.
J.D.
grew up and lived amongst the very communities that were sold out and destroyed by our corrupt elite.
And so even back when he was not the biggest Trump supporter, he was on this deeper sort of sense of ideological affinity.
He was in tune and resonated with the underlying currents.
Um, responsible for the America First movement that Trump led.
And for that reason, I think it was almost inevitable that once, you know, you cut through the media lies, J.D.
would be one of Trump's biggest supporters as he's become and remains to this day.
And so I think there's all this talk.
You know, I've been one to really dump on this concept of Trumpism after Trump because it's constantly used by people who don't understand The unique importance of Trump's style of leadership and really just want to undermine everything Trump stands for.
But I think it's important to have someone who embodies at a core level, both in the brain and sort of in the biography, the underlying logic and momentum behind Trump's victory in 2016.
And so I feel Good that Trump picks someone who embodies that legacy and who can fulfill that legacy in his role as vice president and then possibly beyond in the future.
It's smart from a kind of, I guess, you know, it's not narrow, but it's, you know, it's still important to win the election.
Trump's a winner.
He cares about winning.
Vance has won.
So there are a lot of sort of electoral advantages in terms of 2024 race.
But I'm more pleased and optimistic about the longer-term advantages of having someone who can really embody and carry that mantle.
natalie winters
Well, and we should be optimistic, too, I think, when you see where the opposition has been mounted from, obviously.
John Bolton, Karl Rove, Rupert Murdoch, Rahim, I want to bring you in on this.
When you see who's sort of opposed, right, to the selection of JD Vance, I know we were talking about this a little bit yesterday with Jack Posobiec.
But can you sort of walk us through why you think this is confirmation that President Trump is really sticking to that America First, he's not letting the, you know, consultant class, the sort of establishment wing of the Republican Party have a hand in his selection?
raheem kassam
Yeah, look, we had a piece up yesterday on the national pulse by one of our long-term contributors, Thomas Farnon, and he described J.D.
Vance as the non-compromised candidate, right?
And it's not just being a non-compromised candidate, it's being kind of a technocrat, Really.
Something that we were missing a lot of, I think Darren can speak to this more, in 2016 was actually not just the true believers that we were missing out on, but actually people who knew how to advance the football.
Who knew how to sink their teeth into legislation.
I just ran into Pete Hegseth out on the street and I said to him, you know why I like JD Vance?
Because he's a nerd.
And actually we do need... He doesn't eat seed oil.
Right, and we do need that kind of like detail-driven, detail-oriented person in there to help Trump advance the football.
This is a finite amount of time that they have.
They've got to get a lot done.
And he's, you know, let's face it, he's also got the youth factor, the energy factor.
To be able to bring that into the team, into the ticket, and to say to vast swathes of America, actually, you know, you don't just have one person at the top of your ticket saying the things you believe in.
You now have two people at the top of your ticket, not just saying the things you believe in, but who know how to get things done.
natalie winters
I think there, too, are a lot of similarities between J.D.
Vance and Stephen K. Bannon, in that they worked their way up, right, from sort of blue-collar backgrounds, and they joined the military, they went to these elite institutions.
Steve, in his case, worked on Wall Street for J.D.
Vance.
It was venture capital.
But I think in many ways, the left and the establishment sort of used them as not class traitors, but in a way, they left that world, and I think people who do that, it proves that they have a backbone, and at the end of the day, It is populism to its core, right, when they return from those ivory towers to defend the American people.
And I think when you're looking for a VP pick for Trump, which I think in this case it's more of someone who can be a spokesperson for him, right, you're looking for someone who will not pull a Mike Pence, someone who has a backbone of steel.
And I think J.D.
Vance, in his lived experience, in his life, has demonstrated that he has that.
Now, Darren, I'm curious.
There's obviously been a lot of talk how, you know, President Trump's VP pick right, it's sort of a sash, assassination insurance,
although that comment was made before what happened on Saturday, but convince the war room
posse if you think it is the case that that JD Vance really is a solid pick in that regard and
that he is similarly loathed and feared by the establishment. Well on that point you don't require
darren j beattie
convincing from me.
It's only necessary, as you were pointing out earlier, look at the people who worked so vigorously to bury J.D.
Vance's political career, not only for the VP slot, but all the way going back to the Senate.
I mean, the opposition, a lot of people don't, you know, there's a lot in public facing, but the private facing behind the scenes opposition was absolutely insane going against J.D.
and it was coming from the usual suspects.
Huge push by Rupert Murdoch.
Rupert Murdoch did a huge push against Vance.
Lindsey Graham, you know, this is really interesting.
And it shows what a snake Lindsey Graham is.
I think we all know from how he operates, you can kind of intuitively sense how a person like that would be so snake-like.
But Lindsey Graham was working so hard to sabotage J.D., pushing Tim Scott.
Thank God Trump didn't pick Tim Scott.
Pushing Tim Scott so hard, then pushing others.
And then when J.D.
got the nod, Lindsey Graham comes out and does this big public statement
like they were friends and he was supporting him all along It gives you a sense of how someone like Lindsey Graham
maneuvers But all the usual suspects the John from the John Boltons
to the Karl Rose to the Rupert Murdoch's Absolutely hate JD and there are a lot of reasons for that
One of the big reasons is that he doesn't want to get us involved in foreign wars.
He doesn't want to take your taxpayer money and dump it into the coffers of corrupt oligarchs in Ukraine just to prolong a war and the deaths of innocent people for no benefit to American interests.
He's been against that.
He's been one of the stalwarts in the Senate for his time there.
So I'd say, you know, the people who hate this country, they are stupid in many ways, but they're not stupid in the sense that they don't understand who would benefit them and who wouldn't benefit them.
And they clearly understood that J.D.
elevated to a position of vice president would not benefit the crooks and the snakes that have run this country into the ground.
natalie winters
Darren, if you can hang with us through the break, I have some more questions, not just on Elon Musk.
Maybe you can get the pom-poms out, but also the weird coincidences between the Secret Service actions on the January 6th pipe bomb stuff, and of course what happened on Saturday.
We also got Raheem Kassam, who will stay as long as he's willing to sit.
I'm hearing he's not really all that pleased.
raheem kassam
I don't like sitting down.
I want to stand up, but then you'll never see my crotch, so I don't know if that's allowed.
natalie winters
Wait, we need to get viewership up!
We'll be right back after this break, coming at you from the RNC.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bound.
natalie winters
Welcome back to the War Room.
I'm getting production notes from Raheem Kassam that I need to do some, quote, repartee about- Little Rusty, Natalie, just saying.
raheem kassam
Little Rusty.
natalie winters
I'm Rusty?
raheem kassam
Well done.
Welcome to the War Room.
We're here at the RNC convention.
natalie winters
They know that.
raheem kassam
They know that.
Do you know that?
Here's her email address so you can tell her.
Some repartee.
How are you enjoying your convention?
natalie winters
So I've actually never been to an RNC before, because in 2016 I was in high school, 10th grade, and then in 2020 it was virtual.
So I think that was when the national pulse was, I think, I was about to say at its peak, but I won't denigrate your company like that.
raheem kassam
We're definitely doing better now, don't worry about it.
Fake news.
I miss you.
Whenever I see no typos in the copy anymore, I'm like, where's Natalie when you need her?
So this is a very odd convention.
It feels odd compared to 2016.
The security is way, way more this time around, and I'm sure they deployed many more assets in the last couple of days.
It's also spread out a lot further, and it's boiling hot outside.
So people are walking back and forth between the media areas, between the convention, between the arenas.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It feels draining at this point in time.
natalie winters
You've been here, like, less than 24 hours.
raheem kassam
Oh, less than 24 hours.
natalie winters
And you're complaining about sitting?
raheem kassam
Yeah, no, I don't like to sit.
I like to stand when I present.
The other thing is, look, it puts much more stress on the speakers.
It puts much more stress on the people running the actual show in the forum because they have to make it worthwhile For people hanging out all day, sweating through their suits, you know, there's all this more expectation, especially of an evening, to G people up, to get them excited.
And that's what you saw last night, right?
You saw President Trump come out.
You saw J.D.
Vance come out there.
You saw Tucker Carlson and all of that.
And yes, for a lot of people, for most people, I would say that is worth it all day long.
I think that's why President Trump will show himself at the convention floor every single day.
It's basically thanking people for enduring, you know, the days long processes, the weather, the travel, all of this stuff.
It's pretty intense for a lot of people.
natalie winters
No, there's definitely a show for us last night, and I want to get into your thoughts on the speeches we saw last night.
Of course, President Trump's first appearance since what happened Saturday.
But, Darren, if we still have you, which I think we do, I would love to kind of get your rundown.
I don't think we've had you on the show since the shooting or the attempted assassination happened, but particularly through the lens of the Secret Services.
Frankly, you could call it weird.
I don't think that's really the right adjective to use, but behavior.
Again, the age-old question with the Biden regime, is it a result of incompetence or is it, you know, intentional?
But how they sort of, with the January 6th, the pipe bomb footage, how they were walking past and Capitol Police officers were taking pictures of it.
They were letting schoolchildren walk by the bomb that was allegedly supposed to detonate.
Can you walk us through just the sort of pattern of failures that have occurred under Secret Service's helm, under their watch?
unidentified
Indeed.
darren j beattie
Well, you know, one hates to be irreverent about serious topics like this, but my tongue-in-cheek line is the only reason the attempt failed is that the affirmative action in the CIA has kept pace with the affirmative action in the Secret Service.
Now, there is some truth to that joke in the sense that However you cut it, it's a colossal security failure on the part of the Secret Service.
The idea that a building that close on the roof of the building would be unsecured for a second is simply unfathomable.
And the fact that he was able to get out that many shots, one clipping Trump's ear, and it wouldn't have been the ear.
People need to really digest this.
It's hard to digest.
If it had been A millimeter in another direction.
If he hadn't turned his head at that precise moment, we'd be in a very different situation in this country.
And the fact that he turned his head in order to address a chart of immigration statistics is simply remarkable.
I mean, there's so many elements of this that just Unbelievable, but when you dig into the details of how this happened, there's some really disturbing questions So I mentioned how is the guy able to get up on the roof for that long you think about it?
He's got a rifle.
He's able somehow to get to the top of the roof with a rifle You there's multiple videos at this point of people in the crowd pointing the guy out saying officer officer officer there's that footage of the guy in the with the red sort of carrot top hat, talking about how he alerted officers.
And if you look at the timeline, it's as minutes in advance.
It's inconceivable, especially to people who have, you know, been around the Secret Service and see how they generally tend to operate with these things.
They're deadly serious.
And for that matter, how would this shooter have simply assumed that that roof was unsecure?
Even if you look at the roof and see there's nobody on there, For me, I would assume the second that you start to climb on a roof like that with a rifle, your head gets blown off.
Why wasn't that his assumption?
Did he just get remarkably lucky that he decided to take that risk at the exact event, singular event, when there was that monumental and unfathomable security breach right there?
It's a very bizarre thing and people are asking disturbing questions about this.
And then finally, I find it weird that We basically know nothing about this shooter.
He's virtually a ghost.
He's one of these weird guys.
But there's, as far as I've seen, no internet footprint, which is hard to believe.
So there are just a lot of things that deserve a more thorough answer.
And I really hope that in the midst of all the, you know, the vicissitudes of the news cycle and things, we really can't lose sight of this question, because everything is just kind of too convenient.
And it comes, you know, people forget the Secret Service that had all of these amazing, implausibly unlikely failures.
That sort of redolent of the failures we pointed out in the January 6 pipe bomb, that they managed to miss this pipe bomb when they sweep.
And then when someone alert the plainclothes Capitol Police officer alerts the Secret Service, then protecting VP-elect Kamala, they somehow knew that the pipe bomb was fake.
Because they let a bunch of kids walk right by it like it was nothing before going through the spectacle of getting a bomb safe robot to defuse it.
So the same secret service that has this really bizarre behavior in relation to the pipe bomb is the same secret service that has this really bizarre behavior in relation to this One millimeter off from a successful assassination attempt.
And the Secret Service happens to be housed in the D.A.
unidentified
test.
natalie winters
I want to bring Rahima on this, particularly to the point of getting these thorough answers.
Obviously, we saw Morning Joe, Morning Mika, as we call it here in the War Room, was pulled off air yesterday.
They're back today.
But how do you think the rollout of the shooter's alleged motives, right?
They're saying he's a lone wolf, but that was before they could even get into the phone.
How do you think they're going to sort of weaponize that narrative to Push what I would say is something anti-Trump.
Push lockdowns.
They're already saying that, oh, this guy could spur more violence that's, you know, geared towards elections and just electoral activities.
What's your take?
raheem kassam
A lot of noise.
I mean, they'll do a lot of noise because at the end of the day, what they don't want to do is account for themselves, their own actions, their own words.
And frankly, you know, the Joe Biden going up there with Lester Holt and being asked, have you spoken to the Secret Service director?
And he says, yes, I've spoken to him.
Well, the Secret Service director is a woman.
natalie winters
She could be trans.
raheem kassam
Could be.
Maybe he's just outed the Secret Service Director, perhaps as trans, who knows.
But I think the more important answers to get right now are tactical answers that they will need resolving immediately before he goes out and is able to do this again.
Are they going to have to put in front of a bulletproof screen when he does rallies in the future?
Are you going to need 20 Secret Service mags instead of 5 Secret Service mags at these events from now on?
Are you no longer going to be able to have them in front of an open field?
Did this person scope other events?
Was he an attendee at prior rallies?
Was he trying to see what it was like?
How many times did he visit the scene itself beforehand?
I think we need answers to these questions sooner.
Not later.
I know from an operational perspective the Secret Service will be reluctant to get into some of those details because they will now not want other people knowing what they're looking for.
But I'm afraid they've already failed at their jobs and this is the time for accountability.
I know our friends in Congress are going to be looking for accountability.
natalie winters
That's what I was going to ask you.
House Oversight is having a hearing with the Director of Secret Service.
What do you think they really need to press her on or focus and hone in on on that hearing?
raheem kassam
Oh look, there's going to be all sorts of things that you can pry about.
You know this from going through Freedom of Information requests, you know, massive amounts of data and documentation and emails especially.
What was the Secret Service really focused on in the last 6 or 8 or 12 months, right?
Is it the security of its principles or is it, you know, I hate saying it over and over again because it's kind of trite at this point, or is it DEI?
You know, is it these things that sort of engulf and create a culture and it's so hard to get out of them?
It's like a blob, right, inside government that captures you.
And I do have to say I'm glad that Morning Joe and Morning Mika are back up today because they clearly heard that Morning Raheem and Morning Natalie were on this morning and so they had to counter-program.
natalie winters
Well, frankly, I don't even think it's 6 or 12 or 18 months.
I think it is nearly a decade that you've seen this systemic approach from DHS, which of course oversees Secret Service, basically rework what it means to be a domestic extremist, rework what it means to be a domestic terrorist, and the definition that has become synonymous with MAGA, right?
So it's really no wonder to me that someone like this individual who is trying to shoot President Trump would slip through the cracks because he does not fit their
criteria of what it means to be a domestic extremist in today's America.
raheem kassam
Can't find what you're not looking for.
natalie winters
Darren, if you can stick with us through the break, I want to keep you because I want to
ask you about Elon Musk's decision to donate.
darren j beattie
I'll make it after the break.
natalie winters
Yes, feel free.
You got a minute if you want to make it.
darren j beattie
I'll keep people in suspense, but the teaser is, guess what agency runs the Secret Service?
None other than the Department of Homeland Security, which has been the tip of the spear in the weaponization of the national security state against NACA.
raheem kassam
I thought it was PepsiCo.
darren j beattie
Stay tuned, a lot more on that.
raheem kassam
I thought it was PepsiCo running this.
You know, that's where they got her in from.
natalie winters
But she used to work for Joe Biden.
She was one of his lead details back in the vice presidential days.
raheem kassam
Protecting America's Cheetos.
natalie winters
She hasn't really done a good job.
raheem kassam
Yeah, I mean, I got to tell you, you know, we could talk about this till we're blue in the face as well.
What happened that day, you have to have Like, everything that could possibly go wrong has to go wrong in order for that to come off.
So, lots to talk about.
natalie winters
Well, and it's wild, too, that he was turned back to the right looking at a slide about, what was it, illegal immigration and the skyrocketing numbers under Joe Biden.
raheem kassam
You know what that means?
Talk about illegal immigration at every chance you get.
unidentified
I think so.
raheem kassam
That's a sign.
It's a sign.
natalie winters
It's one of the reasons why I think J.D.
Vance is a solid pick.
But Warren Posse, we will be back after the break.
We've got Darren J. Beattie, Rahim J. Kassam, and Natalie G. Winters coming at you live from the RNC.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
♪♪ Welcome back to The War Room.
natalie winters
I think we're going to have Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene joining us shortly, but in the meantime, we still got Dr. Darren J. Beatty with us.
Now, Darren, Elon Musk announced yesterday that he is going to, until the election, donate about $45 million a month to pro-Trump PACs.
You've always had the pom-poms out, within reason, for Elon Musk, but if you could sort of walk us through this decision and the ramifications of it.
darren j beattie
Absolutely.
Just very quickly on the point about the DHS.
The DHS runs the Secret Service.
Who is the Democrats' point man for the DHS?
Who's run the Homeland Security Committee every single time the Democrats controlled Congress?
None other than Benny Thompson, the disgraced head of the still more disgraced J6 committee Who, as we all know by now, has called for President Trump's Secret Service detail to be removed on account of his sham felony conviction.
So the DHS's stooge in Congress is the guy who wanted to pull protection from Trump altogether, and the DHS just happens to run the Secret Service.
And the DHS is, of course, at the tip of the spear when it comes to the weaponization of government against MAGA, from the Disinformation Governance Board to criticizing COVID skeptics, vaccine skeptics, whatever you want to call it, as domestic security threats, to saying that white nationalism is the number one national security threat to the country.
By that, they mean MAGA.
That's the DHS.
That is the organization that runs the Secret Service.
So I'll leave it at that.
and go to Elon, which is a much more encouraging aspect of what's going on in the country.
So I said, Revolver, we did a very detailed and intricate piece on why Elon should take
over Twitter.
And this was published before it was even publicly understood that he was interested
In fact, it was so prescient that some morons in the fake media have said that I masterminded this whole Twitter thing.
I was like working in cahoots with Elon or whatever.
That's how prescient it was.
Of course, it's a ridiculous theory, but it's kind of flattering that the mainstream media morons would even entertain such an idea.
But here we are, where Elon Musk has come around Along with half of Silicon Valley, you're seeing people like David Sachs.
Now it just came in that Marc Andreessen, a major VC, is going in for Trump.
So we're seeing what the social scientists call a cascade effect, a preference cascade effect.
And Elon is, of course, a major player.
My understanding is he's pledged something crazy, like $45 million a month.
To a Trump supporting super PAC.
And you know, for Elon, it's very clear he loves the country, but it's also existential for his business interests.
Whether he liked it or not, you can't be half a gangster.
You can't poke your head out a little bit.
He already got on the bad side of the regime.
And so he needs Trump to win.
If he wants to save his own hide, if he wants to save his own business interest, Biden's going to destroy his business, if not put him in jail, if Biden wins again.
So all of these people now understand that the stakes couldn't be higher for the country and for their own sort of business empires.
And so they're going in for Trump.
And it's very encouraging to see.
And so I hope that $45 million a month is put to good use.
natalie winters
Well, we see them obviously rallying the troops for President Trump, even from, I would say, unlikely allies.
Of course, yesterday, Judge Cannon dismissing the classified documents case down in Florida.
I think the numbers, what you see day after day, the polls coming out in swing states in basically every state that President Trump is, of course, dominating.
Taking sort of a step back, looking at this from sort of a meta perspective, I'm curious to get your thoughts on how you think the Democrats are sort of going to reshape their playbook to go after President Trump ahead of the election.
In other words, it seems like the lawfare is sort of crumbling, right, from the polling perspective and just President Trump's ability to outperform Biden, not just on a mental cognizance level, but just from a stamina and just his ability to, you know, put his fist up in the air and say, fight, fight, fight Joe Biden, no matter how many drugs they give him.
Um, could never do that.
Do you think from your perspective, your kind of intimate and intricate knowledge of the way the security state operates?
Do you think we're going to start seeing, you know, the pandemic talk resurfaced?
Do you think we're going to start seeing, you know, their push for universal vote by mail?
How do you think they're going to try to sort of electioneer an outcome that is favorable for Joe Biden when basically every indicator is suggesting otherwise?
darren j beattie
Well, you know, this is a really important question and it deserves a sophisticated and comprehensive answer.
And I'll try to give the contours of that.
The short version is the Democrats are even more screwed than they were before.
You see, one thing that this assassination attempt did was it knocked the news cycle away from the attention to Joe Biden's cognitive State.
And what that means is that any Democrats who is thinking of calling on Biden to step down, they no longer have that news cycle at their back that was sort of amplified the significance of those public statements.
That's out of the news cycle.
And now it's out of the question.
I always thought it was out of the question, but now it's really out of the question.
So basically, the assassination attempt shut down any remotely realistic chance of Biden being pushed out.
So that's one thing.
And that's, I think, you know, that's good for, that's good for Trump, that's good for Republicans, that's good for the country, because, you know, Biden's just not a formidable candidate.
So that's one.
Two, I think it has, even the Democrats, they don't have any shame, but Even I think it will have a tempering effect on the way that they approach the rhetoric.
You know, Biden's whole approach and posture has been sort of the.
The doomsday dementia guy talking, you know, dementia man talking about what a danger Trump is to democracy.
I think that will have to temper a little bit.
Of course, we'll see stuff.
It's, you know, ordinary kind of rhetoric in the campaign, but it will blunt the edges of that a little bit, which is basically the only thing they had rhetorically.
And so that's very bad for them.
And of course, all of these criminal cases are now in the trash too.
And that was the big ace up their sleeve.
So they're screwed in terms of the extracurricular approach through the law fair.
They're screwed in terms of the only rhetorical approach that's really viable for someone like Biden and how diminished he is.
And basically, they're stuck with Biden because it was pushed out of the news cycle.
So they are In big trouble from all of those accounts.
But at the same time, I'm hearing a lot of people saying, oh, Trump's won.
It's over.
It's not over.
There are just things built into the structure of these elections, which mean that it's going to be relatively close no matter what.
It's going to be close at the margins in just a handful of critical swing states.
And, you know, they still have you know, bundling, they still have the ability to mobilize
a lot of low information, low IQ voters, all of those things, those kind of structural type
advantages that the Democrats have that those haven't gone away. So I think no matter what happens,
it's still going to be cut to very close election. I'm going to have to let you states.
natalie winters
Darren, as always, thank you for joining us.
I know the posse loves you.
If people want to follow you, get Revolver News, stay up to date with all the work you're doing.
Where can they go to do all that?
darren j beattie
Revolver.news.
If you read one thing, read our piece on Vance and share it with everyone.
It's the best explanation for why he's the best VP choice.
natalie winters
It's a great piece.
The posse's definitely got to go and read it.
Darren, as always, thank you for joining us.
We will see you soon.
darren j beattie
Thank you, Natalie.
unidentified
I am joined by Dean Cain and David A.R.
natalie winters
White.
unidentified
Unlike Darren, we have to be out here.
He's at home.
Where is Darren?
That's what I want to know.
I want to be at home.
natalie winters
Okay, so what are you doing here?
unidentified
Well, we have a movie coming out on September 12th called God's Not Dead.
In God We Trust.
I screwed that up this morning, so I apologize.
Wait, so what's it called?
It's written on money.
God's Not Dead.
In God We Trust.
Exactly.
natalie winters
The one-two punch.
unidentified
It's the most successful A faith-based franchise of all time in the film world.
And David's produced it and acted it and the whole thing.
natalie winters
So you guys are rolling it out here at the RNC?
unidentified
We are, yeah.
We're rolling the trailer out tomorrow, actually.
natalie winters
That's so exciting.
So, film aside, is this your first RNC?
Are you here to support the president?
Do you want to see him speak?
Or is it really just about the film?
unidentified
Or what are you guys doing?
I'm a huge supporter of President Trump, without a doubt.
But, you know, the film is about Faith and politics.
And that's a big deal, especially with what's just gone on with President Trump.
And I think that's going to play a bigger role, not only in this convention, but in his administration moving forward.
And I'm hoping and praying that his administration is the next administration.
And there needs to be an element of faith and values and morals that I think is not being represented very well in this current administration.
natalie winters
And certainly not in Hollywood.
Can you walk us through sort of the differentiating factors and features of this film in comparison to the trash, and I use that word lightly, that's out there?
unidentified
Well, the Gods of Undead movie franchise has always been about really trying to open up conversations about things that are going on in our country as we speak.
And so, you know, when the first one came out way back in 2014, which... Way back.
Yeah.
It's our 10-year anniversary for this franchise, and we are on the fifth installment, which is hard to believe.
But, you know, the Fast and Furious.
How many Fast and Furiouses are there?
37.
37, right.
So we're only just starting.
natalie winters
Okay, so I have to be honest.
They chose the worst person to interview you guys.
unidentified
Don't be honest.
Wait, wait.
What are you doing?
You're in journalism here.
natalie winters
You can't be honest.
unidentified
That's perfect though.
But there is something, there is a connection though.
natalie winters
I don't even know who you are.
unidentified
No, it's perfect.
Oh my god, I'm walking off, right?
You said they didn't know who I was, I could walk off?
natalie winters
I hear you're Superman.
unidentified
I did play him.
I did play him.
When you were negative 27.
natalie winters
Okay.
unidentified
So my parents are like, oh my gosh, my daughter's sitting next to me.
It's a great thing for me, having played Superman 30 years ago or whatever it was, is that like, I get a beautiful young lady comes up to me and goes, oh my gosh, my grandmother loves you!
And I go, oh my gosh, I was that close.
That close, not even mom, but grandma.
That's fair, that's fair.
Yeah, ask your grandma.
natalie winters
Speaking of that close, Steve Bannon, obviously from prison, said that Trump was wearing the armor of God on Saturday night.
And when you look at all the trials and tribulations that the Democrats have put him through, every moment led him to being positioned on that stage, tilting his head back to look at that chart about illegal immigration.
Had they not put him through those lawfare cases, he probably wouldn't have been in Pennsylvania that day because his whole rally schedule would have been off, right?
Because he wouldn't have been stuck in that New York courtroom.
There were so many forces that had to come and converge to have him be protected from
that bullet.
From just the faith and the religion perspective, do you think Steve is right?
Does he have the armor of God around him?
unidentified
I mean, I don't want to say about anything moving forward, but I'll say at that moment,
absolutely, 100 percent.
People like, you know, in this film it's about God and politics, and I say God's already put a hand in this election just by having him turn his head.
That was a very frightening moment.
natalie winters
Election interference at its finest.
unidentified
I tell you what, of the right kind.
That was just a really frightening moment, you know, that would have been One of the worst moments in American history, political history, and I'm so glad that it worked out how it did.
There were obviously a lot of mistakes made and so on and so forth, but I think it helped change this election, maybe change President Trump.
It'll be really interesting to see his speech on Thursday, I think it is.
I feel like he's going to be calling for much more unity and trying to bring things together, and I think that might be exactly what this country needs at this time.
natalie winters
So if people want to watch the film, if they're here at the RNC, where can they go do that?
But the War Room Posse online, how can they get it?
unidentified
Yeah, well the movie comes out September 12th nationwide.
Get involved.
The movie's about being involved.
There's a stat that says 40 million, up to 40 million American Christians are not registered and do not vote in the presidential elections.
And this movie is about the responsibility that all of us have to get involved.
We'd like to You know, so often we love to sit back and say, well, somebody else will take care of it.
But how has that gone for us in the future, or in the past?
It's been not a great experience.
And so this movie really is a rallying cry for people to get involved and how important it is.
natalie winters
As Steve always says, it's Next Man Up.
And I think your film is a perfect demonstration of that.
Thank you guys so much for joining us.
unidentified
That's the Navy man talking there, Next Man Up.
natalie winters
Hey, next woman up, next biological man up.
We gotta make that clarification nowadays.
We will be right back after this break, Warren Posse.
See you soon.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
natalie winters
Welcome back to the War Room.
Still coming at you live from Milwaukee at the RNC.
I think the War Room Posse is one of their favorite guests.
I'm honored to be joined by Representative M.T.G.
Thank you for joining us.
I have so many questions.
We were talking in the break.
I don't even know what to ask you, but I want to start with something that we were talking about really extensively on yesterday's programming, which is the U word that they seem to be rolling out, that unity is what we need in face of what happened on Saturday with regard to President Trump.
Now, we were talking, we were saying, we don't want to unite with people who want to kill us, people who want to indoctrinate our children and turn them against us, people who want our movement basically quashed, done, thrown in prisons, throw away the keys.
What is your take on this push for unity in terms of who it's coming from?
Do we want to unite with the people who are pushing it?
marjorie taylor greene
You know, I remember when Joe Biden took office.
He came out with this unity message.
Unify.
Unity.
And then the Democrats proceeded to rip our borders wide open and actually create an illegal invasion into our country that's murdering Americans every single day.
Then they have spent the past eight years vilifying us, demonizing us.
Hillary Clinton labeled us as deplorables.
They called President Trump Hitler.
They called all of us Nazis.
They called all of us fascists.
called us a threat to democracy.
President Trump is going to destroy democracy.
He's going to become a dictator.
No.
And then they turned the Department of Justice against us, weaponizing our justice system
against people that protested the election on January 6th, against Catholics having Latin mass,
Against parents wanting to hold their school boards accountable.
Against pro-life protesters protesting against abortion.
Put Peter Navarro in prison.
Steve Bannon is in prison right now.
God bless Steve Bannon, by the way.
I want to say that everyone.
Keep praying for him every day.
And then also here they want to put President Trump in jail the rest of his life.
And Benny Thompson, one of my Democrat colleagues who is the ranking minority leader on Homeland, a committee I serve on, introduced a piece of legislation with a whole bunch of Democrat colleagues co-sponsoring it.
To take away President Trump's Secret Service detail.
Natalie, no, we're not unifying with that.
There is no unity with that.
And the Democrats have a long ways to go.
If they ever truly want unity in this country, they owe America an apology.
They need to absolutely drop all these charges against President Trump.
They need to rein in their weaponized justice system.
They need to release these political prisoners.
Every single one of them.
Release the political prisoners from prison.
And they need to rein in the rabid media.
The rabid media that's supposed to report the news to everybody, but act as political activists under these powerful platforms.
And have brainwashed, like Blue Anon, literally half the country.
To the point, Natalie, they think that this assassination attempt was fake and staged.
natalie winters
If it had been Joe Biden that there was an assassination attempt on, do you think there would be calls for unity?
What do you think the response would be?
marjorie taylor greene
Oh, I know.
We know what would happen, ladies and gentlemen, and I hope there's a lot of people on the left watching this.
You people would have been out in the streets burning down cities like you did the entire summer of 2020, looting stores, destroying businesses, attacking police officers, absolutely attacking federal courthouses.
You would be fighting us, murdering us in the streets if that had happened.
But that didn't happen, did it, Natalie?
No, we didn't go out rioting.
We didn't go out destroying property.
We didn't go out murdering and attacking people like the left has lied about us for all these years.
No, we went to prayer.
We dropped to our knees and we prayed for our president.
We prayed for his family.
We prayed for America.
And we prayed to our God, who we know saved Donald Trump's life.
natalie winters
The most that we call for with Joe Biden is he should retire and go enjoy time with his grandchildren, maybe rot in prison for the corruption charges.
marjorie taylor greene
Well, I actually would like to impeach him, and I've been trying for many years.
natalie winters
And on that front, right, you guys are obviously going to be holding a hearing, what is it, in a few days on with the director of Secret Service.
What are you guys hoping to hone in on for an agency that is of course overseen by DHS which for what is it nearly a decade has reworked the definition of domestic extremism and domestic terrorists to basically exclude people like the shooter because to them they get this myopic tunnel vision that domestic extremism is synonymous with MAGA and anyone else they don't want to touch it they don't care.
marjorie taylor greene
Well said.
That's one of the best descriptions I've heard.
Thank you.
So for people watching at home who are so frustrated and so angry, I clearly totally agree with you.
Right now, while you're going, what are Republicans doing?
That's a great question.
So let me let me let everyone know what's happening.
We're having our convention this week.
But what you don't see happening behind the scenes is I serve on the Homeland Committee.
We are preparing for hearings next week.
We're calling Secretary Mayorkas in.
That is the Homeland is the agency that is over Secret Service.
I also serve on the Oversight Committee.
We are bringing in the Secret Service Director.
We're demanding answers and accountability.
I believe this woman should resign before she comes into our committee.
That'd be the right thing to do.
That is the proper thing to do.
That's the respectable thing to do.
But obviously she says she won't resign.
And Mayorkas says he fully supports her.
So our staffs are working very hard lining up.
We are pulling as much information as possible.
Through the investigations and the law enforcement investigations that are happening right now, please be patient with us.
I understand the, like, come on, you should be doing it today feeling.
I feel that too.
Monday, we are getting to work and we'll be doing everything we can to bring as much answers and accountability as possible.
natalie winters
In terms of the ongoing investigation, if you can stay through the break, we'd love to have you, but I know you're busy ladies, so no worries.
They're saying he's a lone wolf.
That was before they could get into the phone.
So sort of curious how they could be able to deduce that.
In terms of kind of rolling out the motivations for this individual, do you think we're going to get any kind of clarity on that?
Or do you think they're going to try to weaponize that to create certain narratives?
What's your take on that?
marjorie taylor greene
Right.
So, you know, the government is the one that lies to us all the time, right?
I mean, the government was the ones and the intelligence community, 51 of them signed their name to a lie saying that the Hunter Biden laptop wasn't real.
The intelligence community created the Russia hoax and sold it, and the media sold it across America.
These are the same people that couldn't figure out the Las Vegas shooting, right Natalie?
natalie winters
Don't trust the experts.
We gotta jump to a break.
If you can stay, we'd be honored to have you, but we get it if you're busy.
Warren Posse, hopefully we'll be back after break.
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