July 15, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Dictator. | |
| Tyrant. | ||
| Dangerous. | ||
| Threat to democracy. | ||
| I cannot in good conscience endorse Donald Trump. | ||
| We don't take an oath to a king or a queen or to a tyrant or a dictator. | ||
| We don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator. | ||
| We worked with him. | ||
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We knew him. | |
| This man is unfit to be president. | ||
| A second term would be more dangerous than a first. | ||
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Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un, they're fully prepared to take advantage of him. | |
| Yes, I do regard him as a threat to democracy for all those things that make America great. | ||
| Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath. | ||
| Why are they taking the knee and why are they doing it in such humiliating fashion, including Mitch McConnell? | ||
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Well, these are classic authoritarian dynamics, and one of the saddest things about authoritarianism is it asks you to betray not only your compatriots when they start getting hauled away for deportation, you turn the other cheek, or you abet the violence, but it asks you to betray yourself. | |
| And it's a kind of moral collapse that, you know, having Trump back on Capitol Hill, I see this as a kind of symbolic undoing of January 6th. | ||
| Where he had Republicans running for their lives. | ||
| These were people who were calling their loved ones to say goodbye. | ||
| Some of them, you know, escaped harm by 20, 30 seconds. | ||
| And authoritarian leader cults require you to submit to that and then forget about it. | ||
| Forget about your own well-being. | ||
| And instead, clap the leader who has humiliated you and put you in harm. | ||
| You don't always get choices of your love. | ||
| You get what mom made for dinner. | ||
| They can't win on policies and they can't win on execution. | ||
| what mom made for dinner or Hitler. | ||
| I'm voting for whoever ate Hitler and it ain't him. | ||
| And I'm going all the way down that ballot route to the tutor school board up to | ||
| the white house. This is about power and about picking not Hitler. | ||
| That's it. That's it. That's me. Okay. Now I'm really done. | ||
| They can't win on policies and they can't win on execution. | ||
| Look at Trump's, look at the lived experience of the country under Trump, | ||
| the economy, So it's just not policies. | ||
| It's a guy that can make it happen. | ||
| They said, well, everybody, you know, all the donors. | ||
| Oh, well, you know, we like Trump's policy. | ||
| We don't like Trump. | ||
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Dude, you got to execute the policies. | |
| You think this just happens? | ||
| Oh, we're going to announce something that just happens? | ||
| Doesn't even happen in the government. | ||
| What do you think internationally? | ||
| You need a strong, tough individual. | ||
| Beatty, walk me through this and I don't want to get to the Kagan piece because Darren Beatty is right and his piece is magnificent. | ||
| He's the only one to call them out to their face. | ||
| They're trying to set up Trump for an assassination. | ||
| Let me repeat that. | ||
| They're trying to set up Donald Trump for an assassination. | ||
| They are trying to take out Donald J. Trump personally. | ||
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Darren Beatty, walk me through your case. | |
| I agree. | ||
| I do not think it's beyond this administrative state and their deep state apparatus to actually try to work on the assassination of President Trump. | ||
| I think everything's on the table. | ||
| I think his security ought to be at the highest it's ever been. | ||
| And honestly, I think he ought to, and I think he should have, flown down to Mar-a-Lago this morning, walked out there at noon today, and said, hey, I'm running for President of the United States. | ||
| Suck on that. | ||
| Well, that was my next question. | ||
| It's not just that Donald Trump poses a threat to democracy, it's that Donald Trump only cares about himself. | ||
| This is a populist looking to serve his own interests and harm other people and dismantle our democracy and make it just about himself. | ||
| This is a guy who's doing it on behalf of Putin. | ||
| Do you think Trump cares about any of his supporters? | ||
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I think he's only ever cared about himself. | |
| He's still a DC pig. | ||
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He's still a greasy pig. | |
| He said that a hallmark of strongman leaders is they don't care about their followers. | ||
| Loathes Donald Trump. | ||
| Things like a lunatic and a criminal, someone corrupt who's bankrupted people. | ||
| That the goal for all of us to save our republic has to be to keep Donald Trump far away, make sure he never gets anywhere near the Oval Office again. | ||
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Do we want to remain a democracy? | |
| Trump is to this nation. | ||
| A cult of authoritarian personality in league with autocrats and kleptocrats and dictators | ||
| all over the world. | ||
| Everybody has to follow Donald Trump like a monarch. | ||
| That's what the election is going to be about. | ||
| Democracy and freedom versus dictatorship and authoritarianism. | ||
| We want to remain a democracy, but we want to take this hard turn into an autocracy. | ||
| And taking direct aim at our democracy. | ||
| Autocratic leaning remarks he has made in recent weeks and months such as ones that echo Hitler. | ||
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Extreme measures taken to fundamentally change the course of the country or we're all going to die. | |
| Trying to get rid of the form of government that we have and install something else. | ||
| To the degree that the country's in any decline, it is the threat of a second Trump term. | ||
| America becoming a threat, which is what it becomes, a threat to the world order if Trump is re-elected, is a no-no, to quote Don Rumsfeld. | ||
| America can survive one Trump term, it won't survive a second. | ||
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Think about what you just said. | |
| We are one inch, one inch from something far more terrible tonight. | ||
| I mean, the country is already shocked, and we are In bad need of healing and unity in this country, but we are one inch from something far worse. | ||
| Republicans I'm hearing from tonight are shocked. | ||
| They are worried about our country. | ||
| They're worried about Donald Trump. | ||
| They're worried about the rhetoric around Donald Trump. | ||
| I mean, I hate to say it, but the rhetoric around him over the last few weeks that if he wins an election, our country will end, our democracy will end, it's the last election we'll ever have. | ||
| These things have consequences, okay? | ||
| I don't know what the motivations of this shooter are. | ||
| I don't know any of the details. | ||
| But I know the rhetoric around Trump has grown extreme. | ||
| You mentioned some other violence. | ||
| You didn't mention the Supreme Court attempted murder of a Supreme Court justice or the congressional baseball game where Steve Scalise was nearly murdered. | ||
| One a conservative, the other a Republican. | ||
| But we have people in this country who are dedicated to telling half the country that if Donald Trump wins an election, the country will end, the Constitution will go away, and so on and so forth. | ||
| What I want to hear from all elected officials is, this kind of hyperbolic extremism has consequences and it must end. | ||
| Yes, we're all shocked, and yes, political violence has no place. | ||
| Where does it come from? | ||
| Oval Office gives you an opportunity to be the leader of the country, not just a candidate, which of course he also is, who happens to be running against the person who was shot yesterday. | ||
| It's a very awkward and unusual situation, but the president made a point of condemning this attack. | ||
| He called Donald Trump to wish him well, and he has made clear that he thinks there's no place in society for political violence like this. | ||
| And it's not going to stop until we stop it. | ||
| And the one way we stop it is victory. | ||
| That's why I say victory or death. | ||
| It's either victory or the death of this constitutional republic. | ||
| We're right on the cusp right now. | ||
| And there's nothing they will not do. | ||
| Listen to Nancy Pelosi right there. | ||
| Right now, President Trump, arguably the greatest president of the 20th and 21st century, Is going to be sentenced by this corrupt judge on this bogus charge with Michael Cohen and all these dirtbags that brag to prison in all likelihood on July 11th because they can't beat him any way else. | ||
| They can't be in the polls. | ||
| That's where they had the early debate the other night. | ||
| He's not beatable politically because of this movement. | ||
| However, They talk about Trump is Caesar and we're dictators. | ||
| Although we do everything with little d democracy, like the precinct strategy and the Moms for Liberty taking the school boards over and changing the schools, right? | ||
| Everything's little d democracy. | ||
| They sit there and want to control from the top down. | ||
| And I'm telling you right now, if they don't get a replacement and they got to run Biden, you cannot take off the table. | ||
| A potential assassination of President Trump. | ||
| For only the third time in the history of the republic is the fate and destiny of one man tied to the fate and destiny of this country. | ||
| General Washington, President Lincoln, and Trump. | ||
| What is going to happen to this country if Donald J. Trump does not have his hand on his family's Bible at noon on the 20th of January 2025? | ||
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What is going to happen to this nation? | |
| It's over. | ||
| You know it. | ||
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I know it. | |
| We don't need to go into detail. | ||
| You see it every day. | ||
| He's the only one that not just stood up for this country, he stood up for the citizens of this country, and particularly he stood up for the working class in this country. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| It's Monday, July 15th in the year of our Lord 2020. | ||
| War Room is coming at you live from Milwaukee here at the RNC. | ||
| It's an exciting day for War Room. | ||
| It's an exciting day for, of course, President Trump and the Republican Party writ large. | ||
| That very same Republican Party we've been working to transform from the inside out. | ||
| We should view this week as a celebration of everything that you guys, the MAGA base, the War Room posse, have done to transform the RNC. | ||
| I wouldn't think that War Room would typically be here at the RNC, but we're of course always honored to be here. | ||
| I guess this is the first time that we are back live since the events that unfolded last Saturday with President Trump. | ||
| The shooting, obviously. | ||
| War Room, we've been giving you some live coverage from our social media channels, but I'm honored to be joined here by Brian Glenn, who was actually at the event. | ||
| Now, there's so many things that we have to get into. | ||
| I want to kind of get your thoughts on what actually happened, but now A few days out, how the media is handling it. | ||
| In a certain word, it starts with a U. It's not Steve Bannon's favorite unity, which we'll get into after. | ||
| But you were there in Pennsylvania. | ||
| I would love to just kind of get your breakdown analysis of what happened from a kind of boots on the ground perspective. | ||
| Yeah, it's one of those experiences that I'm still trying to unpack. | ||
| And you go through this range of emotions from being so shocked that this could happen at a Trump rally. | ||
| We think of Trump rallies as almost being the safest place on earth, right? | ||
| We've got all the local security, law enforcement, Secret Service. | ||
| We've got the best of the best on the ground. | ||
| So something like this is almost unimaginable. | ||
| So when it did happen, I had to Literally pinch myself for a second and say is are we really witnessing an attempted assassination on a president? | ||
| So I went through shock to sadness to depression actually and I'm now in the anger phase which I think is healthy as well. | ||
| I think we all need to wake up and realize and I think that open that you had really lays out the reason why We are no longer surprised that there is something that would drastically happen, an assassination attempt on a president. | ||
| I'm in the anger stage right now, but I am glad that I'm here at the RNC because I think this is one, and you said it great earlier, The RNC now is MAGA. | ||
| It's a unity. | ||
| Look at the policy place. | ||
| Look at the policies. | ||
| I think that the UNC has really come together to rally behind America First policies from President Trump and I'm happy that is happening. | ||
| I remember if you watch old interviews with Steve, and I will say this is our first time doing a live show without Steve, moment of silence, many moments of silence, it's weird to be here hosting, but if you watch old interviews with him when he was talking about the 2016 election, even before when they were pushing candidates, whether it were Jeff Sessions or other people like that, they always said, hey, in 2012, you may not win the election, but you know what you will? | ||
| You will take over the apparatus at the RNC. | ||
| And that's what we've seen happen, right, with the Trump movement. | ||
| You can't go anywhere around here in Milwaukee without, you know, the trolleys named Trump Trolley. | ||
| You look at the platform planks, they're Make America Great Again. | ||
| And I think that's a really historic victory that is not going to be overshadowed by what happened. | ||
| But we have captured the RNC, which is something that sitting here I never thought really we would ever be able to do. | ||
| But it's amazing. | ||
| But I'd love to get your view on sort of the logistics as someone who is actually there in Pennsylvania. | ||
| Right, the shooter was, what was it, 148 roughly yards away. | ||
| The reports are coming out now, Secret Service is blaming local police officers saying that it was their job to secure the area. | ||
| People who lived or worked in that area where the roof was, they said no one ever came to them in the days preceding the rally. | ||
| How close was that? | ||
| I mean, truly, how preposterous is it that someone was able to get up on that roof and fire eight rounds before being taken down? | ||
| It's insane, Natalie, to be honest with you. | ||
| And one of the things I'm probably most shocked is from when you got out of the car to you walk to the front of the magnetometers to go into the clean zone. | ||
| There was no police officers. | ||
| There was no local police officers in the parking lot, even patrolling, who was walking around the area. | ||
| That's shocking. | ||
| And this wasn't necessarily the, I think, the biggest open-air event that he's done. | ||
| He has done far bigger. | ||
| Outdoor venues than he did on Saturday. | ||
| So the fact that they couldn't lock down that perimeter the way they should have is really surprising to me. | ||
| Why that building was outside their clean zone is surprising. | ||
| But more importantly, we've seen this over the last couple days, the amount of videos that have come out on social media showing The uh the gunman on the roof kind of like this little bear crawl if you will trying to roll and get in place. | ||
| I cannot believe that and that is shocking. | ||
| It's the age-old question of the Biden regime which is is it not necessarily intentional but intentional or incompetence? | ||
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Right. | |
| And I think that that is what people are asking. | ||
| And frankly, with the interviews that are coming out, whether it's the BBC, those are valid questions to be asking with such an abysmal security failure that we just witnessed. | ||
| Warren Posse, we're going to be back after this short break. | ||
| I think we should have Ben Burcombe joining us live from outside the RNC to give you a little preview. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| Welcome back to the War Room. | ||
| We're still coming at you live from Milwaukee, and so is Ben Burquam. | ||
| We gave him, I guess, a week off from having to go down to the border. | ||
| I think he is there with Congressman Burgess Owens. | ||
| Ben, if you can hear us, if you want to give us a little update, and I'll toss it to you to interview the congressman to show the posse would love it. | ||
| Yeah, hey, Natalie, and shout out to the War Room Posse. | ||
| We're here in Milwaukee. | ||
| My first time at the RNC Convention. | ||
| I want to show, if we can pan the camera down, we're out in front of the Pfizer Arena, just to make sure it's not Pfizer. | ||
| This is not, this segment's not brought to you by Pfizer. | ||
| It's Pfizer. | ||
| Down the way, you can see the Panther Arena, where you guys are at. | ||
| We've got another arena behind that. | ||
| This entire part of downtown has been taken over for the RNC Convention, and it really, the energy here, Congressman, is really about President Trump and Maggie, you can see the big Trump 2024 here. | ||
| This is my first time here. | ||
| I know you just said this is your first time here. | ||
| How important is or are the events that are going to happen this week? | ||
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Well, I think all of us, those are listening, those are participating. | |
| These are very, very special times. | ||
| And we're going to look back on time and realize that we were here when our country was about to go over the edge. | ||
| And now we have a place where we're really hopeful. | ||
| We see a president who really highlights who America is. | ||
| It's defiance, it's courage, it's boldness, it's love for our country. | ||
| And we're here celebrating that this week. | ||
| And a lot of people, because of what happened on Saturday, will be tuning in probably sometime for the first time. | ||
| So, it's going to be an exciting time for our country because America's been waiting for this. | ||
| We have this desire to become a more perfect union. | ||
| That's who we are. | ||
| In the last few years, we've been losing that. | ||
| And we're just tired of it. | ||
| We're tired of the negative. | ||
| We're tired of the fighting. | ||
| And this is our time to coalesce behind President Trump, who's going to put America first, put the policy in place. | ||
| The next two to five years are going to be some exciting times for us. | ||
| I look forward to it. | ||
| I want to come back to that in a second, but you're talking about that negativity. | ||
| You look at that, the assassination attempt against President Trump, and then we just played a cold open when we came into the show with people like Joy Reid, who are out there basically calling that, setting this up, calling President Trump a dictator, calling him Hitler, all these things for the last eight years. | ||
| How much do you think that played into the violence that we've seen? | ||
| We saw that under President Trump. | ||
| We saw the country burning down with Antifa and BLM. | ||
| How much does the media play into that? | ||
| How important is it that they're held accountable for their words? | ||
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Well, it's a question. | |
| When people are tuning in to only hate, they have a tendency of just thinking that's going to be okay to hate, to stop what they think is the worst thing that could ever happen. | ||
| I think what's happening though is the media is losing their brand. | ||
| The last four years they're realizing American people, I'll say this on both sides of the | ||
| aisle, good people do not like to be lied to. | ||
| And what's happening right now, they're waking up and finding out, wait a minute, this guy | ||
| is who has been representing us all this time and we didn't know about it. | ||
| So what's happening with this is the American people are beginning to hold everyone accountable | ||
| who's lied to them. | ||
| We're going to go and do something very special this next four years. | ||
| We're going to win the House, the Senate, President Trump. | ||
| We're going to finally put policies in place that people can feel the difference. | ||
| And that's what's nice about where we are now. | ||
| They know what it is to go through misery, to pain, to hopelessness, because that's what the Democratic Party has been doing to them. | ||
| With President Trump and a group that really is looking at him as a leader, and his guidance as a leader, we're going to be able to give the American an idea of what it truly feels like to be hopeful again. | ||
| So, I'll add on, to be great again, to be hopeful again. | ||
| And that's where we are heading off to, and this is going to be an exciting time for our country altogether. | ||
| A lot of good people that are Democrats will be leaving like I did 40 years ago, and they'll never go back, because our brand is forever broken because of what's happened the last four years. | ||
| And you're seeing that. | ||
| I do most of my coverage on the southern border down in New Mexico, Central America, what Joe Biden, the Democrats have done on that southern border. | ||
| You're from Utah. | ||
| We're seeing that shift across America, particularly in the black and Hispanic communities. | ||
| Are you seeing that everywhere as well? | ||
| And following up to that, are you seeing a shift in Congress? | ||
| I know you just mentioned that a little bit, how we're getting rid of some of the bad and we're getting some of the MAGA in there. | ||
| Talk to us about that. | ||
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I would say, first of all, I came in on the 117th Congress. | |
| The 117th, the 118th, the ones coming on, we are truly America First legislators. | ||
| And that's because of the shade of what Trump showed us. | ||
| What he showed us is that we need to move on. | ||
| And so I'm excited about that. | ||
| Black Americans want everything like everybody else. | ||
| Hispanic, Jewish, everybody wants freedom. | ||
| We want to have a positive view of our future. | ||
| And that's what President Trump is offering us. | ||
| So yes, we're going to be coming back to this together. | ||
| We'll be more united than we have in a while. | ||
| And I think it's going to be really good for our party to have this remarkable resurgence of a good old-fashioned American way, for sure. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Congressman Burgess Owens from the great state of Utah. | ||
| Natalie, Brian, amazing event already out here. | ||
| I'm going to be out here on the street talking to the people. | ||
| Stay tuned for much more of that to the War Room Posse. | ||
| Until then, thank you, Congressman. | ||
| God bless you, sir. | ||
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God bless you, for sure. | |
| Thank you, Ben, and thank you, Congressman. | ||
| I certainly like hearing the word accountability come from a member of Congress's mouth. | ||
| I just wish they would do a little more to act on that. | ||
| I want to pick up, though, where we left off in our last discussion. | ||
| We were talking in the break again. | ||
| You were there in Pennsylvania at the rally when everything happened, when everything went down, and to sort of dovetail with the cold open that we played, which was just a collage, which, frankly, you probably could make a collage like that. | ||
| Just from 24 hours of mainstream media coverage of Trump, right? | ||
| They say those talking points every single day, 24-7. | ||
| What was the crowd's reaction to it happening, particularly towards the media? | ||
| It was really interesting. | ||
| Of course, you know, President Trump often at his rallies will, you know, take a look at the fake news back there. | ||
| They don't turn the cameras around to show the crowd. | ||
| This often uses that in his speech. | ||
| He had referenced them three times up until the seven-minute mark whenever the shooter attempted his assassination on | ||
| President Trump. | ||
| Now, after Trump got up, put his fist in the air and said, you know, fight, fight, fight, | ||
| as soon as they put him in the car, I have never witnessed this at all in all of the Trump events | ||
| I've ever covered. | ||
| I would probably say 45 to 50% of the crowd that was still there, because some people did file out, they were obviously scared, wanted to leave. | ||
| They turned to the media riser and they started giving the media the business. | ||
| I'm talking about blank this, blank that, it's your fault, it's your fault, pointing at them. | ||
| Middle fingers, the whole bit. | ||
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I have never seen a crowd turn... You didn't really hear that in the mainstream media coverage of what happened. | |
| No, they were peppering them with insults. | ||
| And it's almost to the point where the Secret Service had to come over and separate people from the media barrier, the bike rack there. | ||
| The people in the crowd felt like it was the media's responsibility for what happened. | ||
| It was crystal clear where they stood on that, and I thought that was a very interesting fact. | ||
| Now, granted, thank God, none of those were directed towards me. | ||
| I would say, not Rav. | ||
| Yeah, not Rav, and they knew that we were clear. | ||
| Maybe a little Fox, not Rav. | ||
| Well, it's interesting about that. | ||
| They were peppering the Fox girl in the pre-program. | ||
| They were calling her fake news and calling out. | ||
| As a matter of fact, she looked at me at one point like, what do I do? | ||
| And I said... | ||
| I literally went like this. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you. | ||
| Stop lying to the American people. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So that was an interesting point. | ||
| I have never seen that before to that degree. | ||
| But that's how America feels right now. | ||
| They do feel like the media has perpetuated these talking points of Hitler, threat to democracy, which we all found out that 2016 when he won, nobody's rights got taken away. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, even in Joe Biden's address last night, he said that, you know, foreign actors are trying to flame the fans, right? | ||
| That was an interesting line. | ||
| And, of course, they said the very nice M-word, misinformation, never miss an opportunity to say that. | ||
| But to sort of continue pulling this thread of the media's response, they know that people detest them. | ||
| And I'm not just talking poll after poll, showing that what I think there may be more dislikes than Congress, which is already a pretty low bar. | ||
| Seems like they're cognizant of the fact that right now people do not want to see the vamping of people like Morning Joe and Morning Mika on air. | ||
| So much to the point that CNN was reporting that they basically pulled Morning Joe I believe maybe for the next week or at least few days probably coinciding with the RNC and they have basically just You know, emergency coverage. | ||
| If you look at the title of it, it's like, you know, live assassination coverage. | ||
| And it's very interesting for those of you who watched it today in honor of Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| You know, it's his favorite program. | ||
| They're throttling a very interesting line in the sense that they're just sort of having historians on, the hosts that they have on look like you're just most, you know, basic journalism graduate, school graduate types. | ||
| No really, you know, panache there. | ||
| They're trying to keep it kind of dry. | ||
| What's your take on why they're playing that optics game? | ||
| Well, because they know they've been found guilty in the public court of opinion, that their information that they've been pushing out for the past six years about this man finally came to the point where someone thought they had the courage enough to try and assassinate him. | ||
| I predict this goes for this week. | ||
| They're going to preempt Morning Joe for this week. | ||
| They'll put these people in there, they'll have their happy talk, and they'll have a kumbaya about how much they love this country and how significant this event was. | ||
| But after the RNC, you will see Morning Joe and Mika back on the air drinking their coffee with the same, maybe toned down talking points, but that's in their DNA though. | ||
| They can't fake that any longer. | ||
| It'd be a test pattern on the screen if they couldn't say that. | ||
| It would be a total test pattern, correct. | ||
| And I want to get now to sort of a bigger thing. | ||
| We've heard this word unity be rolled out. | ||
| And you know, we were talking about this before I was talking for those of you who saw Steve's | ||
| comments to the National Pulse, kind of reacting to the shooting that happened. | ||
| You know, make no mistake, if you turned the tables and it were a, say, Trump supporter | ||
| who had tried to shoot Biden, do you think Democrats would be pushing for unity right | ||
| now? | ||
| They would be weaponizing, though they already have the full force of the federal government | ||
| to come after MAGA. | ||
| The media would be squarely blaming this on President Trump. | ||
| I'm sure social media companies, big tech companies would be cracking down on misinformation. | ||
| Social media censorship would hit a new high. | ||
| The word unity would be nowhere, nowhere in the vernacular. | ||
| You can't have unity with people who fundamentally do not want you to survive or your movement | ||
| Surely, this was maybe a little more directed attempt to take President Trump off the ballot. | ||
| But really, what is the difference between what Colorado was doing with the Supreme Court, what they've been doing with all of these document cases, which we'll be having Jeff Clark, and I just see Mike Davis walking by right now, joining us shortly to walk through, that they've actually dropped the classified documents case. | ||
| Eileen Cannon has actually dropped that case. | ||
| We'll have Jeff Clark joining us after the break. | ||
| But really, it is a distinction without a difference. | ||
| It is. | ||
| What the shooters did. | ||
| Give me 30 seconds on that. | ||
| Okay, they'd be calling for the Second Amendment. | ||
| They would be taking your Second Amendment right. | ||
| Where are the Republicans calling for gun control after the left attempted to suicide on President Trump? | ||
| You would think that we would be calling for gun control! | ||
| No, we're not doing that. | ||
| But the left would do that. | ||
| And I'll just leave you with this. | ||
| The unity. | ||
| I want the Republican Party to unify. | ||
| I want Americans to unify and get behind Republicans. | ||
| But I'm not unifying with Democrats. | ||
| End of story. | ||
| No, and I don't want to unify with, I would say, probably 60% of the Republican Party either. | ||
| I would aim into that. | ||
| But we need the vote, though. | ||
| We need the vote. | ||
| We'll take the vote, but we want actual accountability. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| If Steve were here, he'd be saying the same exact thing. | ||
| It's not the time for unity with people who hate you, want your children to be trans and dead. | ||
| We'll be right back after the break. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| Welcome back to The War Room. | ||
| We are joined by the one and only Mike Davis. | ||
| I was going to say of War Room fame, but you have a couple other accomplishments. | ||
| Maybe that's why we have you on. | ||
| Not including what you drank at the bar last night. | ||
| I have to channel Steve. | ||
| I have to give you. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| for that. No, but in other good news, although I don't know if that's good news, | ||
| Judge Eileen Cannon has, if I'm not mistaken, dismissed the classified | ||
| documents case against President Trump. Can you walk us through all of that? | ||
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Absolutely. So the United States Constitution is very clear that if you | |
| want to create new officers or if you want to spend taxpayer money, it has to | ||
| be through our elected representatives in Congress. | ||
| And we had the Office of the Independent Counsel, and Congress intentionally let that lapse after the Ken Starr investigation of President Clinton. | ||
| And so what did the Justice Department do? | ||
| They tried to sidestep that. | ||
| They tried to create, by fiat, So, walk us through the ramifications of this. | ||
| through regulation, not through Congress, and then this Office of Special Counsel | ||
| is not accountable to the Attorney General on a day-to-day basis. There's no | ||
| day-to-day management and it essentially gets an unlimited budget. So Judge Eileen | ||
| Cannon followed the Constitution. It's very clear that the Office of Special | ||
| Counsel is unconstitutional and she just ruled that way today. So walk us through | ||
| the ramifications of this. Does this mean it's totally done? | ||
| Do you think this is going to mean they're going to double down on the other cases they have against President Trump, or kind of battle planning it out? | ||
| What do you think is the fallout? | ||
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Yeah, the classified documents case down in Florida has been dismissed. | |
| If the Biden Justice Department wants to bring a new case, I think they would have to bring it through a United States attorney, or they would have to Yeah, you'd have to go through the United States Attorney for the Southern District of Florida. | ||
| I don't know what other way they could do it, and that would be the path they should pursue. | ||
| The United States Attorney is nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. | ||
| That is an officer of the United States, an inferior officer of the United States, and that inferior officer can have assistant U.S. | ||
| attorneys manage the day-to-day operation of this, and they can use taxpayer-appropriated funds To do this, and that's the way the system is supposed to work. | ||
| And I believe we have Jeff Clark joining us via Skype. | ||
| I think we do. | ||
| He didn't, he didn't trek all the way out to Milwaukee. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| We'll still have him on the war room today. | ||
| But Jeff, if we have you, I would love to get your thoughts on sort of the dismissal | ||
| of this case, and then I want to continue to kind of drill down on the ramifications | ||
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of this ruling. | |
| Can you hear me now? | ||
| I was going to say, now we can hear you. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yes, sorry about that. | ||
| So, look, sorry I can't be there in Milwaukee. | ||
| I'm chained to my desk at the moment, but it's exactly so I can look at developments like this. | ||
| This is a thunderbolt ruling. | ||
| It's smashing. | ||
| It shows that Judge Cannon is really 11th Circuit material, and I hope that if and when President Trump becomes president again, the once and future president, that he consider her for any vacancy that occur there. | ||
| You know, and look, I got to take a victory lap on this because, you know, more than a year ago, I started arguing that the special counsel's entire office was unconstitutional under the appointments clause. | ||
| I made several appearances on war room about that. | ||
| The reaction from the mainstream media was, you know, Clark's crazy. | ||
| This is well established precedent that we can have somebody like Jack Smith. | ||
| The Supreme Court's gonna ultimately authorize this. | ||
| And then we saw the very bold Justice Thomas strike out in a separate concurrence in the | ||
| Trump United States immunity case and say, there's another reason why this case likely | ||
| can't go forward against President Trump, namely the January 6th case from Jack Smith | ||
| in DC. | ||
| And that's that Jack Smith's office is entirely unconstitutional under the appointments clause. | ||
| As Mike was pointing out, there has to be an appointment by law. | ||
| And even on the assumption that Jack Smith is an inferior officer, which is an assumption that Judge Cannon indulges for purposes of her opinion, still she finds that none of the statutes that were invoked to put Jack Smith in place actually justify putting him in place. | ||
| And as I've been pointing out for a long time, and Mike referred to the U.S. | ||
| attorneys, Jack Smith is a super U.S. | ||
| attorney. | ||
| Regular U.S. | ||
| attorneys all have to go through Senate confirmation, right? | ||
| Presidential appointment, Senate confirmation. | ||
| Jack Smith has not gone through any of that, yet he wields the powers of all of the U.S. | ||
| attorneys fused into one. | ||
| His office is unconstitutional, and it's great to see Judge Cannon, in a 93-page opinion, proclaim that. | ||
| And then also, she adds in the ground that he's been, you know, scooping money off the public fisc, you know, like a demon, millions and millions of dollars based on an indefinite appropriation. | ||
| And that indefinite appropriation, she finds, also violates the Appropriations Clause because Congress is not authorized the money that Jack Smith is spending hand over fist. | ||
| So this is a truly monumental decision, and it comes and could not come at a better time | ||
| than after the very tragic and dangerous assassination attempt against President Trump. | ||
| And last thing I'll say before turning it back to you, Natalie, is that there was a lot of criticism | ||
| of Judge Cannon. | ||
| Oh, she's just trying to hold this up. | ||
| She's in over her head. | ||
| She doesn't know what she's doing. | ||
| This is a 93-page opinion. | ||
| She's been working on it carefully for some time, and that gives lie to those who have. | ||
| have just tried to besmirch her by arguing that she's just trying to create delay. | ||
| She wasn't. She's been working on this. She's seen this as an angle from the start. | ||
| I think she was emboldened by Justice Thomas's separate opinion in Trump. But, you know, | ||
| it's a great day to see this and to see this nonsense case against President Trump tossed out. | ||
| out. | ||
| And Mike, I believe the prevailing consensus is that this case was one of the stronger, if not strongest, cases going against President Trump, kind of taking a bird's eye view at just the lawfare attacks against President Trump writ large. | ||
| How do you think this is going to affect their larger strategy? | ||
| In other words, do you think they're going to kind of focus on the other cases? | ||
| Do you think Well, President Trump's opponents have tried to bankrupt him. | ||
| as they see the polls and the fundraising, all those numbers, that the lawfare isn't | ||
| totally working. | ||
| Do you think they're going to sort of recalibrate? | ||
| How do you think this affects their kind of battle plans going forward? | ||
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Well, President Trump's opponents have tried to bankrupt him. | |
| They've tried to throw him in prison for the rest of his life. | ||
| They tried to throw him off the ballots and they just tried to kill him. | ||
| So, I would not expect that President Trump's opponents are just going to quietly go away. | ||
| They're going to come up with something new. | ||
| And that's why President Trump's supporters need to forcefully defend him against this lawfare, this Republican lawfare. | ||
| That's what we've been doing with the Article 3 project for the last two years. | ||
| Like Jeff said, Jeff was one of the A few lawyers out there who joined us in this fight, we were laughed at two years ago. | ||
| They're not laughing now. | ||
| And Jeff, if you're still with us, this seems like such a, I don't know, silly oversight coming from Democrats in this very well-oiled machine. | ||
| They've read the art of war, they know how this stuff goes down. | ||
| Do you think that this is some procedural, you know, issue that they were just hoping that would be overlooked because they always seem to get away with it, there always seems to be a double standard? | ||
| How do they make such a critical error? | ||
| Well, it goes back, Natalie, to the fact that they do not believe that the president is in charge of the Justice Department. | ||
| They think that the Justice Department is an independent thing or to borrow, you know, it's for the intelligence community and his terminology. | ||
| But to borrow Mike Benz's blob terminology, they think the Justice Department is its own separate blob that the president cannot oversee. | ||
| And that's why they recreated the independent counsel statute that Congress allowed to sunset. | ||
| And who did this? | ||
| The regulations were signed by Janet Reno, but she's not the one who crafted them. | ||
| The one who crafted them back in the Clinton administration was Neil Katyal, who is one of the darlings of MSNBC. | ||
| He shows up almost on a nightly or weekly basis on MSNBC to bash President Trump. | ||
| He's a rabid partisan. | ||
| He is very prominent as a Supreme Court practitioner. | ||
| And so they gave him the task of putting those regulations together back in the Clinton administration, and I've thought that they were all wet all from the start because they were an attempt to circumvent Congress's power. | ||
| It's one thing if Congress created this regime, right, a regime of a fourth branch of government, right? | ||
| I think it's still illegitimate. | ||
| I think Justice Scalia was right in his dissent in Morrison v. Olson that the independent counsel statute was unconstitutional under the appointments clause. | ||
| But certainly if it's just attempted to be done by regulations, when Congress has deliberately | ||
| made the choice to let that statute lapse, you're really in territory where you're just | ||
| making it up as you go along. | ||
| And as Justice Thomas pointed out in his Trump concurrence, Congress has the power to create | ||
| The executive branch cannot create offices. | ||
| And this was very important to the framers because, and it's one of the grievances in the Declaration of Independence, for gosh sakes, that the king was creating offices and sending them to America in swarms to eat Americans out of their substance. | ||
| And so Justice Thomas said, we can't have that kind of system. | ||
| And so it's great to see Judge Cannon take that logic, take that approach, which is really the approach of the framers. | ||
| And jam it down Jack Smith's throat. | ||
| Jeff, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you're working on and writing, where can they go to do all that? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So we are at the Center for Renewing America, AmericaRenewing.com, and you'll also find a lot of great defenses, you know, tied in there with Mark Payletta's work and my work, especially on this issue of whether the DOJ is independent or not. | ||
| It's not independent. | ||
| And I am at Jeff Clark US on X and Getter and at Real Jeff Clark on Truth Social. | ||
| Jeff, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| We usually have you on to talk about lawfare. | ||
| I always say, it's not a Mike Davis war room hit if you don't say Matthew Colangelo. | ||
| But you're not going to say it this time, because I know that you've been here for a while now, I think, kind of talking with members of the RNC, working on the policy platforms. | ||
| The word unity is something that we keep hearing. | ||
| I would love to just kind of get your kind of inside baseball scoop on what you're hearing, whether what President Trump is going to talk about, or just what sort of the temperature inside the room is, for lack of a better word. | ||
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So I've been volunteering here for over a week as one of President Trump's legal surrogates, including for the platform committee. | |
| President Trump was very hands-on with the platform and he took a platform that was like 50,000 words and reduced it 75% down to a platform that the American people can understand. | ||
| It is an America First platform. | ||
| It is for Can you walk us through the historic nature of that for the RNC, which has, you know, historically been, I think, harangued by many members of the war room posse as, oh, it's establishment. | ||
| I mean, the significance of the rewording of the platform. | ||
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It's very much President Trump's party. | |
| And this is very much President Trump's platform. | ||
| It's like there are like 20 points to this thing. | ||
| It is messaging for real Americans In real America, instead of the lawyers and lobbyists who wrote platforms in the past. | ||
| And this is a winning platform. | ||
| It can unite all factions of the Republican Party. | ||
| It brings in right-thinking independents and even right-thinking Democrats. | ||
| It is an American first. | ||
| Who is in the room in terms of helping reformulate? | ||
| You know, like, from a personnelist policy, right? | ||
| You're saying it's more the grassroots as opposed to the, like, no offense, but the lawyer consultant class. | ||
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It's President Trump. He was very hands-on. He called into the platform committee | |
| and explained to the platform committee of the RNC why he's updating this platform and why it's | ||
| important. And it is important because guess what? We need to win elections. And if Republicans | ||
| don't win elections, then we don't get to pick people for the Supreme Court. | ||
| We don't get to pick people for the federal courts of appeals. | ||
| We don't get to pick people like Judge Eileen Cannon in the Southern District of Florida. | ||
| Personnel is policy. | ||
| Mike, I want to hold you through the break. | ||
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| It will be back live from the RNC. Mike Davis, we see Jack Posobiec see some other people who will be | ||
| joining us shortly. | ||
| You guys will be right back. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. | |
| Welcome back to the war room. | ||
| We are still coming at you live from Milwaukee, and we will be, I believe, for the next week or so. | ||
| We're joined in person still by the one and only Mike Davis. | ||
| We jumped to break, but I want to get back to that very important discussion that we were having about the shift in the RNC kind of policy planking and platforming of what their priorities are. | ||
| So if you want to kind of keep walking us through what you saw inside the room, you're saying President Trump was really the The man behind the wheel steering a lot of these conversations. | ||
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Yeah, so President Trump has fully realigned the Republican Party to a America First, a populist party for real Americans and real America. | |
| I'm from Iowa and I went and spoke to the Iowa RNC delegation yesterday and they are very excited about this. | ||
| The Republican Party is very much United and we're strong. | ||
| And if you contrast that with the Democrat Party, with Biden Democrats, they're very much divided and weak. | ||
| And that is a very good place for Republicans to be in, you know, what, four months before the presidential election. | ||
| We need to stay united as a party. | ||
| We need to bring in right-thinking independents and even right-thinking Democrats. | ||
| And we need to We need to have a massive victory on November 5th, 2024. | ||
| And I would tell these Trump supporters and other right-leaning voters to make sure you vote as early as possible. | ||
| Bank your vote. | ||
| Do not wait until election day to vote, because if you think that the BLM and Antifa riots were bad in 2020, just wait for the Hamas riots in 2024. | ||
| Remember this, President Trump's opponents not only tried to bankrupt him, And throw them in prison for life. | ||
| Throw them off the ballot. | ||
| They just tried to kill them. | ||
| So it is very important that these Trump voters, that these Republicans, conservatives, right-thinking independents and Democrats vote as early as possible. | ||
| Bank your vote and get our allies to vote as early as possible. | ||
| Do not wait until election day because you may not have the opportunity to vote. | ||
| You're probably one of the foremost experts on all of the lawfare attacks that President Trump has been facing. | ||
| When you see that and you kind of compound that with just the general rhetoric that you hear 24-7, frankly, on the mainstream media about Trump being, you know, literally Hitler and all the attacks and slurs that they use against him, Your reactions to the assassination attempt in terms of how we got here, and when you hear the calls for unity, how we can even coexist with a side that, once our movement quashed, once MAGA supporters, frankly either dead or locked away in prison to throw away the keys, how do you make sense of that? | ||
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I blame President Biden for what happened to President Trump, and I'll tell you why. | |
| This is a President of the United States, Joe Biden, who has demonized President Trump, called him a fascist, and said that the American people needed to stop him at all costs, right? | ||
| Any and all costs. | ||
| And this President Biden has politicized and weaponized his Justice Department, along with these other Biden Democrat prosecutors' offices around the country. | ||
| To go after President Trump with this unprecedented republic-ending lawfare and election interference. | ||
| They've gone after President Trump's top aides like Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon who are sitting in prison right now after valid claims of constitutional executive privilege going back 250 years to George Washington. | ||
| They've gone after President Trump's supporters on January 6th with political We've used political violence against Trump supporters, and you see the January 6th defendants committing suicide in prison? | ||
| I mean, it's projection at its finest. | ||
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And I always say this to Republicans, it's not just Trump and his top aides, his lawyers, like Jeffrey Clark, like Rudy Giuliani, like John Eastman, they're going after his supporters on January 6th, they're going after parents. | |
| outraged by gender chaos in schools and the resulting rapes in high school bathrooms. | ||
| They're going after, they're going after Christians. They put a 75 year old Christian | ||
| in prison for praying at an abortion clinic under the FACE Act. | ||
| How can Biden though even use the word unity when they're refusing to drop these lawfare cases? | ||
| I mean, do you think if Biden ever wants to use the word unity again and say that we need to bring | ||
| this country together, do you think that he should drop every lawfare case that they have | ||
| perpetrated against President Trump? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| That's how you get unity. | ||
| I'll say the word unity if they do that. | ||
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Yeah, I would say this about President Biden. | |
| Look, I strongly disagreed with President Obama, but I didn't hate the man. | ||
| I think that President Biden is a wretched human being. | ||
| I think he's an evil man. | ||
| I think he's a broken man. | ||
| I think he's a corrupt man. | ||
| And what he has done by taking our country to the brink With this Republican lawfare and election interference, with this extremely dangerous rhetoric that he's used against President Trump, calling him a fascist and saying that we need to stop President Trump at all costs. | ||
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That directly led to that assassination attempt. | |
| And President Trump was within one second, one millimeter of having his head blown off on national TV. | ||
| And President Biden should be ashamed of himself for creating this environment in this country. | ||
| President Trump is going to bring us together as a country. | ||
| He's going to unite us. | ||
| President Biden has divided us. | ||
| He's corrupt. | ||
| He's an evil man. | ||
| And I think the irony, I don't even know if that's the right word to use in all this, is that if you read President Trump's kind of recounting of what happened, the only reason that the bullet just grazed his ear was because he was looking, I believe, tilting his head back slightly to the right to look at slides, charts of these skyrocketing illegal immigration numbers under Joe Biden. | ||
| So I guess maybe that's the silver lining of it. | ||
| But as Steve said, President Trump You know has the armor of God around him and it's it's true. | ||
| I would love to hold you I think we'll get Jack Posobiec in here. | ||
| We can have three people. | ||
| It'll be a fun show, but War Room Posse We're gonna go to break shortly. | ||
| I see Jim Hoft of Gateway Pundit fame Like I said, we got Jack Posobiec. | ||
| The RNC is just heating up. | ||
| We don't really have a live audience I know you're used to the Q&A is an audience participation when we usually do live shows, but you gotta settle for Mike David But no, we will be back after this break. | ||
| In the meantime, you can go to birchgold.com slash Bannon to get the latest installment of the End of the Dollar Empire. |
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