July 13, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| We begin tonight with a deep dive into what Donald Trump and his sycophants have planned for the Department of Justice under Project 2025, and how they would use the DOJ to attack American citizens. | ||
| The 28-page section of the Projects Manifesto covering the Department of Justice and the FBI is a nightmarish play-by-play on how to turn the DOJ into the office of vengeance. | ||
| According to Hamilton and the folks at the Heritage Foundation, the Department of Justice would no longer be independent in a second Trump administration. | ||
| On page 559, Hamilton writes, While the supervision of litigation is a DOJ responsibility, the Department falls under the direct supervision and control of the President of the United States as a component of the Executive Branch. | ||
| Thus, in putting aside criminal prosecutions that can warrant different treatments, litigation decisions must be made consistent with the President's agenda. | ||
| That's what project 2024-25 is calling about. | ||
| Project 2025 will deploy the Department of Justice to prosecute Trump's enemies. | ||
| That was the President of the United States, Joseph Robinette Biden, | ||
| holding a very spirited campaign rally in Detroit, Michigan tonight. | ||
| We just took that live clocking in around 30 minutes before a exuberant crowd. | ||
| I am Chris Hayes here in New York. | ||
| I'm joined by my colleague Joy Reid, of course, the host of the readout just before me. | ||
| And Joy, I want to first get my first read on this. | ||
| And again, I think we've we've been honest throughout about the various performances we've seen from this president, from the debate, the Stephanopoulos interview to the press conference. | ||
| You know, that was by far, I think, the best performance he's given in the State of the Union. | ||
| And it looked like that, you know, that's the Joe Biden that that has been a very successful politician and won in 2020. | ||
| The right-wing Project 2025 agenda that we've been covering here on this program. | ||
| Just days ago at a conservative conference, Homan said this, quote, Trump comes back in January. | ||
| I'll be on his heels coming back, and I will run the biggest deportation force this country has ever seen. | ||
| They ain't seen N.I.T. | ||
| yet. | ||
| Wait till 2025. | ||
| Wait till 2025. | ||
| What Trump and his allies have proposed, as the New York Times reports, quote, amounts to an assault on immigration on a scale unseen in modern American history. | ||
| Millions of undocumented immigrants would be barred from the country or uprooted from it years or even decades after settling here. | ||
| Such a scale of planned removals would raise logistical, financial, and diplomatic challenges and would be vigorously challenged in court. | ||
| But there is no mistaking the breadth and ambition of the shift Mr. Trump is eyeing. | ||
| Quote, they would finish the border wall. | ||
| They would go after illegal immigrants or even those who live with someone who is not here legally. | ||
| They would target people not born here but currently receiving protections like DACA recipients, Ukrainians fleeing their country while it's at war, and Afghanistan evacuees who came here after the Taliban took over their country. | ||
| They would restrict legal visas that help victims of crime and trafficking. | ||
| And they say this specifically, quote, ICE enforcement and removal operations should be identified as being primarily responsible for enforcing civil immigration regulations, including the civil arrest, detention and removal of immigration violators anywhere in the United States. | ||
| So I think we have to take very seriously everything that's coming out of Project 25 and that President Trump is talking about. | ||
| I think there's no limit to what he'll try. | ||
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appropriate. So I think we have to take very seriously everything that's coming out of Project 25 and that | |
| President Trump is talking about. I think there's no limit to what he'll try. | ||
| The one silver lining I think is that if there is military in the | ||
| fleet in the streets or there's National Guard or they're going around neighborhoods pulling people out of homes and | ||
| schools. I think the American people will react to that. | ||
| And the one thing that we saw in family separation is that people across the political spectrum, across the ideological spectrum, came out and were repulsed by little children being taken away. | ||
| I think We're going to see that. | ||
| I hope that we're going to see people saying enough is enough. | ||
| We know we want to approach demigration that's balanced. | ||
| We want a constructive approach and an efficient system at the border. | ||
| But, you know, we're not going to go to that lens where we're just going to be going through neighborhoods with the National Guard, with the military pulling people out. | ||
| And, you know, I know we're going to talk about this, but it's not just a humanitarian issue. | ||
| If you start Deporting 11 million people who are workers in this country, it is going to have an enormous effect, a devastating effect on the economy. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Democracy Forward has put together the People's Guide to Project 2025. | ||
| Not everyone has to go read all 900 pages of it. | ||
| We've done that for them. | ||
| But what it really does is show and make accessible all of the great harms and threats to democracy that are contained in the extremist playbook. | ||
| I mean, to be clear, Project 2025 is an existential threat to our democracy. | ||
| With regard to public education, you laid it out so well in your introduction. | ||
| The attacks that are contained in Project 2025 are designed to fundamentally disrupt and dismantle public education in our country as we know it. | ||
| Public education is so core and fundamental to our nation's democracy. | ||
| I have the great fortune of being able to work with communities, families, students, teachers in states and cities across the country. | ||
| We're there on the front lines of some of these horrific ideas and seeing firsthand the harms that are being perpetuated in these communities and then knowing that Project 2025 is really Moms for Liberty on steroids. | ||
| Let's be clear. | ||
| The people behind Project 2025 aren't seeking just to undermine public education. | ||
| They're seeking to undermine our democracy, delegitimize, defund public education, roll back protections for marginalized groups, reduce funding for low-income students, expand school privatization, and ultimately eradicate the Department of Education. | ||
| And that is something that will really hurt all of the students across the country, and people should be very worried about that. | ||
| I think folks know how extreme Donald Trump is, and I think one of the key factors that folks need to know also is that less immigration means higher costs for American citizens. | ||
| Right now, we have a significant labor shortage all across our country. | ||
| In our construction industry alone, we are one million workers short. | ||
| Immigration, immigrants contribute to our economy, contribute to our GDP growth, and are a significant factor We're on housing costs, and so the fact that we don't have enough workers, even in the construction industry, and many other industries, means higher costs. | ||
| Those are the economic implications of policies like Donald Trump's are going to result in increased costs for American families. | ||
| We cannot allow another Trump presidency to stain our nation's progress, and this economic factor is a key one that also needs to be considered. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
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It's going to happen. | |
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of The War Room here live from Washington, DC. | ||
| Today is 13 July 2024, Year of Our Lord. | ||
| And as we sit looking across the landscape, looking across the horizon, the waterfront is what's going on. | ||
| RNC starts on Monday. | ||
| People are flying in. | ||
| I'll be flying into Milwaukee tomorrow because we are going straight to the Rust Belt to figure out everything that happens. | ||
| Joe Biden up on this rally that he holds in Michigan. | ||
| He comes on strong and you got Joy Reid, you got Chris Hayes up there. | ||
| Oh, he's great. | ||
| He's fantastic. | ||
| But he can't even tell you Project 2025. | ||
| He can't even get the words out. | ||
| He can't even figure out what he's going to say because this is a presidency that has launched a national security crisis. | ||
| This is not A Republican or Democrat issue. | ||
| This is an American issue. | ||
| Who's in control of our nuclear arsenal? | ||
| Who's in control of STRATCOM? | ||
| Who's actually pressing the button? | ||
| And you get all the stories out now from Axios and Politico and all the rest. | ||
| And it's amazing, by the way, because they'll say Republicans and conservatives are pushing the conspiracy that Joe's age was a cover-up. | ||
| And then they put my picture up there and Stephen Miller and Hannity and some other people. | ||
| And I go, but wait a minute. | ||
| I'm reading your own articles that are talking about the fact that it was covered up. | ||
| You're the one saying that it's covered up. | ||
| You're the one saying you've got the family running around in there, like it's the Addams Family, hiding this guy, hiding the fact that he can't put two words together. | ||
| Then he goes up and starts, GRRR, the DOJ, the DOA, and Joy Reid's saying how great it is. | ||
| Yeah, total sycophant. | ||
| Don't worry, Joy. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| Everything's gonna be fine. | ||
| Everything's going to be great, Joy Reid. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| 2025 is going to be glorious. | ||
| In fact, I think it's going to be one of your favorite years of your entire life. | ||
| But then you look on the other side of the ball, and what do we have on the other side of the ball? | ||
| It's Rupert Murdoch. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| I want to deliver a message directly to Rupert Murdoch. | ||
| You do not get to pick the vice president. | ||
| Donald Trump, who was the choice of the voters of the party, the choice of the grassroots, and the choice of the people, he gets to pick who the vice president is. | ||
| Not you. | ||
| And you got this story out from notice. | ||
| Rupert Murdoch lobbying Trump to pick Doug Burgum and not J.D. | ||
| Vance. | ||
| Retired media mogul has been, they say Rupert's calling him again and again and again saying, oh you gotta, You gotta stay away from Vance. | ||
| You know, he's no good. | ||
| He's no good. | ||
| He's terrible. | ||
| And here's what the consultant from Fox has been saying. | ||
| Rupert has always viewed Trump as subservient to him and wants to install a vice president who's there as a check on him. | ||
| and it bothers him. | ||
| He's not looking forward to another four years will he have to kiss Trump's A-SS. | ||
| They don't want Trump on Fox, and so they get Burgum on there | ||
| and groom him for the next four years and make him president. | ||
| That's his way of ending Trumpism. | ||
| They want to install a corporate candidate to end Trumpism and to off-ramp this stuff. | ||
| I don't have any problem, by the way, with this guy. | ||
| I think he's a good guy, fine, whatever. | ||
| But the point is the factions, the factions are now lined up to push someone | ||
| who's pro-Ukraine spending, who's pro-open borders, who's pro-whatever the US... | ||
| Chamber of Commerce wants, and that's what we want to stop. | ||
| And I've got sources on this, by the way. | ||
| It's not just Rupert Murdoch. | ||
| You got Ken Griffin. | ||
| You got Paul Singer. | ||
| Karl Rove has been completely activated. | ||
| McConnell's activating his networks. | ||
| Even, and I'll just say it, I'm going to say it, Kellyanne Conway has been activated. | ||
| And I've got multiple sources telling me that KAC, Kellyanne Conway, has been telling people that J.D. | ||
| won't be the vice president. | ||
| I won't allow it. | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| To Kellyanne Conway and to Rupert Murdoch and Ken Griffin and everybody else out there, it's Donald Trump's decision. | ||
| It's not your decision. | ||
| You get to be a voice in the room. | ||
| He'll listen to people, but that's who he is. | ||
| He's always been a man of the people. | ||
| He's always had an open-door policy, but you don't get to make that choice. | ||
| That is a choice made by Donald Trump and Donald Trump only. | ||
| And I want to be clear about this. | ||
| that this is something where I know JD wasn't there in 2016. | ||
| I get that, okay? | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| JD has been there holding the line when it comes to the globalist expansion of the NATO, | ||
| of the NATO national security state. | ||
| He's been there holding the line on immigration, and he's someone who's actually been fighting the fight | ||
| for taking MAGA forward into the future, which is what we need. | ||
| The choice, of course, will be Donald Trump's, but you see what's going on, folks. | ||
| You see the factions lining up, you see the money lining up, | ||
| and the implied understanding that, you know, if you block this guy, | ||
| maybe, maybe we'll write you a... | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| Donald J. Trump doesn't need your money. | ||
| Donald J. Trump doesn't need money with all of those strings attached because this movement is a people's movement. | ||
| This movement is about the working class people. | ||
| And yet, in the Rust Belt, people like, and I love the fact that the East Palestine mayor, they just announced he's going to be speaking at the RNC. | ||
| I think that's fantastic. | ||
| Tucker Carlson, the news has come out that he'll be speaking. | ||
| AP's got a story. | ||
| that Peter Navarro, yeah, that's right, Peter Navarro will be leaving prison, | ||
| and I don't know if there's been set a war room yet, Peter Navarro will be leaving prison down there, | ||
| FCI Miami, flying directly to Milwaukee next Wednesday, and will be addressing the RNC | ||
| as well as appearing right here on the war room. | ||
| So make sure you watch this. | ||
| As we know, Stephen K. Bannon, who I've been in contact with over email, | ||
| is still serving, is still serving in this fight. | ||
| He's behind bars, they've tried to lock him up, they have locked him up, | ||
| because they want to try to silence him. | ||
| It's not going to work, because they can't silence all of us. | ||
| We've got a huge show, packed show this morning, it's a busy Saturday. | ||
| Look, I know it's Saturday, but the work never stops, because we're gonna go all the way in. | ||
| We're gonna go in on Project 2025, and I know that Joy Reid | ||
| is gonna be paying very close attention. | ||
| I hope you do, Joy Reid. | ||
| Sharpen your number two pencil, because we're going to be having a fantastic conversation. | ||
| We've got Rasmussen coming on, Brian Costello, and then Raheem Kassam to give us a dispatch of what he learned while he was over in Europe. | ||
| Stay tuned. | ||
| Huge show, short break. | ||
| We'll be right back here in The War Room. | ||
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We'll go through Hong Kong. We will fight till they're all gone. | |
| We rejoice when there is no more. Let's take down the CCP! | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| www.facebook.com www.instagram.com you | ||
| Jack Prasovic back in the war room. | ||
| By the way, I hadn't even seen this. | ||
| Just crossed my desk over the break here. | ||
| The great Carly Bonet, shout out to the Midnight Rider, sends me the new press release. | ||
| Fox Nation, Rupert Murdoch's Fox Nation, to debut weekly series. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| Starring, oh, Kellyanne Conway. | ||
| So Rupert Murdoch is giving a special deal to Kellyanne Conway. | ||
| How interesting. | ||
| That's very interesting. | ||
| I'm so interested to see the same guy who's doing everything he can to support the Ukraine war lobby to support the US Chamber of Commerce open borders. | ||
| Lobby is now also activated with Kellyanne Conway. | ||
| Okay, interesting. | ||
| We're just following folks. | ||
| We're just following the news. | ||
| We're just following what's going on out there. | ||
| We're just noticing things. | ||
| We're just paying attention and we're going to see where it is. | ||
| that the places we find that the establishment gets very upset about. | ||
| Now, one group of people that the establishment is extremely upset about, as you guys all know, | ||
| is called Project 2025. And so I said, you know what, I'm sick of hearing the media talk about | ||
| Project 2025. | ||
| I'm sick of hearing MSNBC and Joy Reid. | ||
| She's going on and on and on about Project 2025. | ||
| And I said, why don't we go and actually talk to the guys who were in charge of 2020? | ||
| I'm not scared about it. | ||
| I'm not terrified. | ||
| I'm not going to cower. | ||
| No, we're going to have a conversation. | ||
| And so that's why I'm excited to bring on now Steve Groves of the Heritage Foundation, the co-editor of Project 2025 joins the war room. | ||
| Steve, how are you today? | ||
| We may have lost Steve there for one second, so guys, let's check that out. | ||
| I wasn't sure if that was an audio issue on my end. | ||
| We were just talking to him over the break. | ||
| Let's make sure we can go to get him back in. | ||
| And in the meantime, guys, do we have Mark Mitchell? | ||
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I am here testing. | |
| So Denver, let's bring, hey, Mark Mitchell. | ||
| So we're going to produce this on the fly here. | ||
| So Mark Mitchell, of course, the lead pollster for Rasmussen. | ||
| I know I just did the intro for Heritage. | ||
| Looks like they're having some audio issues. | ||
| We're going to figure that out. | ||
| But I figure, hey, let's switch things around. | ||
| We're doing it live. | ||
| It's a Saturday morning here in the War Room. | ||
| And we are fired up. | ||
| Mark Mitchell, now you've been looking at the polls. | ||
| We've all seen the collapse of Joe Biden. | ||
| Here's my challenge to you. | ||
| Do you think there's, and I've got this theory, I've got this theory that Joe Biden has a way to turn this all around. | ||
| And this is what I want to talk about. | ||
| Because he started to kind of do it, where we know the American people love an underdog story. | ||
| We know they love an anti-establishment story. | ||
| This has been Trump's story all along. | ||
| And now all of a sudden, Biden and some of his allies have started circling around this narrative That it's Biden versus the elites, that it's Biden versus the establishment. | ||
| And I see this as an actual potential threat because he used to throw out this populist rhetoric throughout his career and throughout the past. | ||
| But of course, everyone knew that he was always on the side of the establishment for 50 years, up until literally the last two weeks. | ||
| Mark Mitchell, what are you seeing in the numbers? | ||
| And is there a path forward here for Biden to actually cobble back some of that support? | ||
| Well, he did cobble back some of the support. | ||
| There's no way Joe Biden is ever going to wash the stink of establishment off of himself. | ||
| I mean, just in our COVID polling, a majority of Joe Biden's strong supporters wanted to throw the unvaccinated in jail. | ||
| People aren't going to forget that. | ||
| And every time I run a poll, the biggest signal is always in Biden approval. | ||
| I really do think this is a referendum on Biden and a vast majority of Republicans And a really strong majority of independents really don't trust authority and blame it all on Joe Biden. | ||
| But from where the race is at, we have new post-debate matchup numbers back. | ||
| And the headline here is Trump still leading by a pretty solid margin. | ||
| He's up six points, but that's actually down from 10 points pre-debate. | ||
| Now, where we were at is we showed Joe Biden imploding. | ||
| Like all of the way through the spring and all the other pollsters weren't there yet. | ||
| It's almost like the debate gave them permission to catch up to where we're at. | ||
| But we poll a lot and we catch these swings. | ||
| And the truth is, the big movements pre and post debate is that Democrats circled the wagon around this guy. | ||
| Now, yeah, here you can see all of our presidential polling. | ||
| Uh, from the last year and a half, everything this race. | ||
| And I mean, like the, I think to me, if you look, the big takeaway is that Donald Trump's numbers are kind of steady at 48, 49%. | ||
| And Joe Biden is locked in there down at the bottom. | ||
| He's got a long way to make up. | ||
| Um, what I will say is I've seen Republicans blow bigger leads. | ||
| And so my advice to the Trump camp. | ||
| It doesn't really matter what Democrats in there. | ||
| Focus on winning down ballot. | ||
| Focus on a good turnout. | ||
| Focus on maintaining that five to ten point lead. | ||
| And I think over time you're going to see that happen. | ||
| If you can you have Denver bring up chart two. | ||
| I think that's the most important one that really shows us where we're at. | ||
| This is all of our polling with Donald Trump over the last 10 plus years. | ||
| And everybody says all polling's inaccurate. | ||
| Everybody says, well, Rasmussen's a right wing pollster. | ||
| But I put the final reported vote, national popular vote margin on Trump versus Clinton. | ||
| And these are moving averages to swing out, to smooth out all the swings. | ||
| And we were dead accurate in 2016 and 2020. | ||
| And if anything, in our polling, Joe Biden did better than he did in the final reported results. | ||
| And now if you look at where Trump's at 2024 to 2020, he's solidly up. | ||
| And if you look at where Biden's at, he's still down about 10 points from where he was four years ago. | ||
| And, you know, polls change over time, but our weighting maybe changed one or two points over this period. | ||
| Our methodology didn't change all that much. | ||
| So Biden is getting beat. | ||
| Every time we test a Biden replacement, they poll about where Biden is. | ||
| People know who Trump and Biden are. | ||
| I think they've mostly made up their minds. | ||
| And it's going to be really tough. | ||
| For the Democrats to catch up. | ||
| I don't think they can put anybody in there, but they have, as you know, and as you've mentioned, some aces up their sleeve. | ||
| There's major ways they could change this race, and it's cynical to say, but one of the big ones is to put Trump in jail, which they do have the opportunity to do. | ||
| Now as a pollster, I can't at all predict how things like that are going to change the | ||
| race. | ||
| But this debate really didn't. | ||
| And before the debate, voters told us, well, Trump's probably going to win 10 points lead | ||
| they gave to Trump. | ||
| After the debate, they said, well, Trump won by 35 points. | ||
| But then if you see here. | ||
| So when you go when you let's let's clue in on that specifically. | ||
| So in the debate, pre debate, post debate, where did you see the biggest delta? | ||
| Where did you see the biggest change in support demographic-wise, age-wise, or gender-wise? | ||
| You know, education, non-education, where was that biggest shift? | ||
| It was mostly in left or leaning groups. | ||
| It was Democrats who said, by and large, oh, no, there's no way Trump's going to win. | ||
| Biden is so, so smart. | ||
| He's been in D.C. | ||
| for 50 years. | ||
| And then post-debate, I think the Democrats went from 70 or 67 points. | ||
| Biden's going to win down to like 49 points. | ||
| And more people, more Democrats said that Trump won. | ||
| But the problem is, is that now more Democrats are supporting Biden in the race. | ||
| I'd almost call it a pity bounce or circling the wagons. | ||
| After that performance, Joe Biden has an 80 point approval rating among Democrats right now, which is like the highest It's been all year. | ||
| Now, will that abate some? | ||
| Maybe, but I mean, maybe they just didn't like the mean orange man picking on their candidate. | ||
| I think that's what couldn't, you know, I think Trump's doing the right thing right now. | ||
| Let the Democrats have their circling firing squad. | ||
| This is what people have called a civil war. | ||
| I think that's probably really accurate. | ||
| And all they're doing right now is probably hurting their candidates' chances, throwing all these slings and arrows at Biden. | ||
| It's not affecting the Democrats. | ||
| But it's affecting the independents. | ||
| Trump's up like 15, 16 points among independents now in the latest matchup numbers. | ||
| And independents also said that Joe Biden got beat in that debate by a massive amount. | ||
| So you're seeing it twofold. | ||
| It's two fronts now. | ||
| So the independents are being driven to Trump more because of the Democrat civil war that's ensued, but then also because they saw Joe Biden's performance, his disastrous performance at the rally. | ||
| What about this press conference? | ||
| What about this roundtable, this, you know, 20, we saw the numbers, if they're to be believed, they're saying 24 million people tuned into this thing. | ||
| Did you, have we seen, or is it early enough that we've seen any shift in the numbers since that press conference? | ||
| You know, we're talking about minute movements in the news cycle when there's been videos of Joe Biden falling downstairs for three years. | ||
| At this point, if you're willing to have an open mind about Joe Biden's incompetence or mental acuity problems, like 57% of voters already knew going into the debate. | ||
| So I don't think the press conference is going to solidify anything. | ||
| I really just think this is a test. | ||
| Of the media's ability to either gaslight people or the Democrats apparent willingness to vote for a ham sandwich, basically, you know, really just bringing it back to the race. | ||
| Trump was leading by 10 before the debate. | ||
| Now he's leading just by six. | ||
| And you can look at where he picked up and lost. | ||
| And, you know, he picked up. | ||
| Joe Biden is doing 13 points better among Democrats. | ||
| So essentially the crossover advantage that Trump had all year is gone. | ||
| Trump is doing way better among Hispanic and other race voters, but that, you know, swings around. | ||
| He's awash with Republicans and it's awash with independents on the debate. | ||
| Now, you know, independents were horrified by that debate performance, but again, it just hasn't, it hasn't changed the race much. | ||
| Younger voters, Biden is doing four and a half points better than he was doing pre-debate. | ||
| I think at the end of the day, we may call this noise. | ||
| Trump is winning solidly. | ||
| But again, I think, you know, we could talk about election integrity issues. | ||
| National popular vote may not matter as much as it does in a post 2020 world. | ||
| And voters have a lot of concern about election integrity. | ||
| I can tell you that. | ||
| Mark Mitchell, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| From Rasmussen Reports' top pollster, we need to be focused on those people. | ||
| Signal, not noise. | ||
| Don't listen to the noise. | ||
| Focus on exactly what's going on for you and your family. | ||
| Stay tuned. | ||
| Short break, right back. | ||
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| I got a comment in here from Eric Bolling, who just sent me a comment in on Twitter, because we know that, so I mentioned that Tucker Carlson is going to be speaking at the RNC, and Eric Bolling comments, so does Fox cut away from Tucker Carlson in primetime, or do they hold their collective nose and run the speech? | ||
| And he says, whatever it is, I'll be watching there intently. | ||
| So there's a question for you, Rupert. | ||
| Rupert, are you going to carry Tucker Carlson's speech after you fired him? | ||
| Are you going to leave him up on your network? | ||
| Are you going to be forced to have him on or not after you let him go? | ||
| So you're trying, so Rupert Murdoch is trying to pick who the vice president is going to be, while Donald Trump is putting a man on stage who Rupert Murdoch just fired. | ||
| Kind of interesting, kind of interesting how that all works out. | ||
| Talking about someone else who's on the outs with the establishment, I mentioned before, I think we got him back now, Steve Groves, the co-editor of Project 2025, from the Heritage Foundation. | ||
| Steve, I want to make sure, do we have you? | ||
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| Thank you. | ||
| I'm not sure what's going on with that, folks. | ||
| But we're gonna go. | ||
| So, you know, they must be working double hard to keep Project 2025 away from the war room. | ||
| But never fear, because we've got a backup in play, as they say, in the military. | ||
| Two is one, one is none. | ||
| Brian Costello now from Shift AI joined the war room. | ||
| Brian, how are you today? | ||
| Good Jack, how you doing? | ||
| Someone doesn't want you to have that segment, huh? | ||
| I'm telling you, we keep talking, and I'll just be clear with the audience, we keep talking to him during the break and everything's fine, and then I call him up here and it just doesn't happen. | ||
| But Brian, it's interesting because you and I, I think, have been of a mind in talking about The shadowy forces that are trying to push Joe Biden out of office right now, because what we are looking at, and I was on with Darren Beatty here the other day, and I said we need to bring back hashtag Stop the Steal, but for Joe Biden, because they're trying to coup him out of the White House. | ||
| And it seems to me that a lot of the congressmen, Mark Warner over in the Senate, Jim Himes of the House Intel Committee and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Then Mark Warner, of course, the chair, very powerful chair of the Senate Intel Committee, who's joined with the intelligence community at the hip. | ||
| All of these forces conspiring against Biden. | ||
| Who's really behind this push right now? | ||
| You know, it's it's it's pretty amazing, Jack, right? | ||
| Because you look at like we'll go we'll go into the Garland thing for a second. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So here you have a president who they said wasn't fit to stand trial. | ||
| But at that time, nobody had a problem with him. | ||
| Running for four more years of president, right? | ||
| And now we're seeing the tapes hidden by the Attorney General who controls, you know, obviously has tight relationships into the intelligence community. | ||
| You see an organized apparatus, right? | ||
| all of a sudden the media, I actually didn't think Biden did too bad | ||
| in his public speech for a guy that's been, as you said, falling downstairs for three years, right? | ||
| But all of a sudden the media is lockstep and sink, right? | ||
| And we know the media typically gets its marching orders from the intelligence community, right? | ||
| The leaks get put in by different people. | ||
| So I think there's an all-out effort. | ||
| It's a question of, do we see the tapes come out at some point? | ||
| So there's a lot of people that want them out. | ||
| Brian, let me just pop in here real quick because it's not just about, do we see the tapes come out? | ||
| This is highly incumbent on Speaker Johnson. | ||
| Everyone who's in the House Republican Committee right now, it's clear. | ||
| Okay, and Annapolina Luna had the inherent contempt petition that was up there on the House floor, and they wouldn't vote for it. | ||
| And who voted against it? | ||
| Who was protecting Garland? | ||
| It was also these congressmen who have direct ties to the intelligence community. | ||
| Because I think, from my mind, I'll put money on this. | ||
| I will put money on this. | ||
| The cunt, and Joy Reid, and Midas Touch, and Patriot Takes, and all you little Midas Touchers out there, pay very close attention to what I'm about to say, because I want you to print this. | ||
| The tapes from special counsel Herr do not match the transcription. | ||
| I'm telling you right now, we already know that Biden's staff is running around and they're doctoring all the tapes when he does these interviews, they're planning questions, they're doing everything they can to protect this guy. | ||
| Why are they so terrified of the Herr tapes? | ||
| Why won't they let the Herr tapes come out? | ||
| Why won't they do this? | ||
| I'll tell you right now, because it doesn't match the transcription because the transcription is sanitized. | ||
| I guarantee you that what you will see on those tapes does not match. | ||
| They are lying to you. | ||
| That is why they won't release the tapes. | ||
| That's why they're terrified of this. | ||
| And her, remember, for all the attacks they threw on him and they said, oh, well, you know, he's he's making this political. | ||
| He's making it partisan. | ||
| He's the one who said first that from an independent position that Joe Biden has dementia. | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| That aged pretty well, didn't it? | ||
| Brian, go ahead. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, listen, there's a disconnect, right? | ||
| If you read the transcripts, right, all they say was, oh, there was some extra i's and ands. | ||
| They decided from these transcripts that he wasn't fit to stand trial. | ||
| OK, so just on that, you know, along the video says something different than the transcripts. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, you know, this is a pretty consequential submission by the DOJ to a court, right, that he wasn't fit to stand trial. | ||
| this is why they decided when they actually taking his political opponent through trial | ||
| for something that's not even as bad. | ||
| So there's a huge disconnect there. | ||
| And Jack, where you're circling around, and I think you're right, you know, President | ||
| Trump right now needs to call for the removal of Mike Turner as chairman of the House Intel. | ||
| House Intel is a place where we hold the gavel. | ||
| We can subpoena. | ||
| And I can tell you, I know specifically what Turner's done since McCarthy put him in that role. | ||
| He immediately fired all the investigators on the Russia hoax team, removed them. | ||
| He started going to dinners with Schiff. | ||
| He literally voted the first time not to censor Schiff. | ||
| First time he voted not to move forward with the impeachment of Mayorkas. | ||
| Now he's gone against 99% of his party, President Trump, and he's voted not to hold Garland in inherent contempt for basically what we know is happening here is they doctored transcripts and they're hiding the video. | ||
| This isn't an executive privilege thing. | ||
| You have a crime here. | ||
| And not only that, what was, what was, what was Turner, what was Turner immediately prior to Trump taking office? | ||
| He was the head of the NATO Permanent Parliamentary Assembly, the president of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly from 2014 to 2016. | ||
| This is the guy who was holding stuff up. | ||
| That's why when Annapolina Luna goes up there and says, well, can we just watch the tapes? | ||
| Can we watch the tapes in the skiff? | ||
| And they say, no, you can't do that. | ||
| Why can't we watch it in the skiff? | ||
| This is protected. | ||
| There's no disclosure. | ||
| There's no leaks unless Adam Schiff is going to be there. | ||
| So why can't we see get Schiff in a skiff? | ||
| So why can't we do that? | ||
| And it's very clear. | ||
| And I think Brian Costello, you are 100% correct. | ||
| And I agree with you. | ||
| And I'll stake everything on this. | ||
| They doctored that transcript. | ||
| They're lying to the American people. | ||
| And the only person who isn't lying, by the way, right now is Robert Herr, because he's the one who came out and said, Directly with all of the headwinds against him after being appointed by Garland himself. | ||
| And that's who's who is actually in charge of this stuff. | ||
| You think Joe Biden is the one running up there running all these operations? | ||
| Biden doesn't even remember that he had the conversations even though he was talking to that that was a special counsel. | ||
| He said this guy couldn't possibly be brought up on charges because he doesn't realize he's got no mens rea. | ||
| He doesn't have the criminal culpability of mind, the mental state to actually be able to commit a crime because he can't commit Anything. | ||
| That's what's going on to the American people. | ||
| President Trump, I'm going to co-sign this. | ||
| President Trump should go to Speaker Johnson right now, put it up on True Social. | ||
| President Trump, call for Mike Turner to lose his chairmanship of the Committee on Intelligence. | ||
| Have him lose this because he's protecting the intel community, he's protecting Merrick Garland, and ultimately he's protecting Joe Biden. | ||
| Brian Costello. | ||
| Yeah, so the Chair of the House Intel Committee is an extremely important position. | ||
| This guy was put in place by McCarthy, right? | ||
| He serves, it's a select committee, so he serves at the bequest of the Speaker of the House, okay? | ||
| You need someone Who is going to protect the integrity of the Republic in this position, not somebody who's trying to indoctrinate himself into the Uniparty as part of this. | ||
| So it's very, I mean, the votes, if you look up and down his votes, I mean, this guy called his colleague, he, this guy called his colleagues who were against Ukraine funding because they wanted controls, Russia propagandists, right? | ||
| This guy is not, he's not fit for this. | ||
| His entire staff, is cronies he bought over who have no intelligence | ||
| background whatsoever. You need somebody with some gumption, not the dunce from Dayton in this. And Steve | ||
| would be proud of me getting that in. | ||
| It's not Mike Turner. Mike Turner needs to be removed immediately from this position. | ||
| Look, President Trump had a strong ally at House Intel at HPSE when Devin Nunes was there. | ||
| And we remember the power, I remember this, of hashtag release the memo, of everything that he was able to put together with, oh that's right, also my friend and colleague Kash Patel, who was there working with Devin Nunes on HPSE, to be able to put all this stuff out. | ||
| Because they were running the counter-coup to everything that was going on during Russiagate. | ||
| Russiagate, I might add by the way, something that has been completely championed and endorsed | ||
| by who? | ||
| That's right, Marco Rubio. | ||
| Little Marco went all in on Russiagate. | ||
| He was always there to defend Mueller. | ||
| He wasn't helping to release the memo. | ||
| He wasn't helping on the countercoup. | ||
| No, it was Marco Rubio who worked with them to deny President Trump a full first term | ||
| in office because every single media story, every narrative, every single day. | ||
| It was the drip, drip, drip, drip, drip from the Mueller investigation, and they held that over everyone's head. | ||
| They held it over Steve Bannon's head. | ||
| They held it over the White House. | ||
| They held it over everyone. | ||
| They said, oh, Bannon was running around the world meeting with Russia, and it was all a joke. | ||
| It was all a complete and utter joke. | ||
| Brian Costello, walk me through, how did they use the media in order to launder these narratives to get leverage? | ||
| How did House Intel use the media to deliver this? | ||
| Well, the Intel community. | ||
| The community. | ||
| Oh, so what you always see is, you know, they have great media contacts, right? | ||
| So they'll see leaked stories. | ||
| So a lot of times people think when people are compromised, right, within Congress or within these committees, what they're worried about, why they tend to always vote in line, isn't somebody who sits in a room and says, you need to vote this way. | ||
| What they know is that there's information on them. | ||
| And that information by the intelligence community will be leaked into the media. | ||
| It might be information on an affair. | ||
| It might be information on, you know, another problem, right? | ||
| And so the intelligence community doesn't walk in and threaten congressmen. | ||
| They just kind of know to fall in line once there's some dirt on them that's actually surfaced. | ||
| And that dirt might surface as part of something like regularly the The FBI and different groups will look at, and I don't think a lot of people know this, and it's not necessarily regularly, they'll go in and look at congressional devices just to make sure there's no foreign actor that's influenced a cell phone or laptops or things like that. | ||
| And during that process, they actually find things. | ||
| Right? | ||
| On occasion. | ||
| So you know if there's information on you out there and the intelligence community and the FBI and, you know, the IC groups. | ||
| There's a lot of IC groups. | ||
| Know that? | ||
| And this is what we need to understand. | ||
| Go ask Anthony Weiner about that. | ||
| Brian Costello, stay tuned. | ||
| Be right back. | ||
| Quick break here. | ||
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| War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Jack Posobiec back here in the war room. | ||
| And I want to say something else about special counsel Robert Herr, because Robert Herr isn't | ||
| doing anything to get these tapes out either. | ||
| Robert Herr, by the way, made the special negotiation. | ||
| And I'm hearing now from top DOJ officials that Robert Herr made the negotiation with | ||
| the Biden campaign or excuse me, the Biden administration, so that Robert Herr wouldn't | ||
| have to video record Biden, that the entire interviews were audio recorded only. | ||
| So they got down to video. | ||
| Ken Starr, when he was going and doing the depositions of Bill Clinton, through the Lewinsky | ||
| investigation where he worked, Clinton lied repeatedly again and again. | ||
| That was on video. | ||
| We know that was on video. | ||
| But Biden was smart enough or able to at least to get his people to go over to her and her | ||
| didn't push for video. | ||
| So I don't want people thinking that Robert Herr is some big savior here, that he's going | ||
| to be like the next, you know, the next coming of Maggie. | ||
| He's not some MAGA guy. | ||
| In fact, he's a DOJ guy. | ||
| He's a guy like Bill Barr and Rod Rosenstein and all these types who, at the end of the day, we know where their loyalty lies. | ||
| Their loyalty lies with the company. | ||
| Their loyalty lies with the department. | ||
| Their loyalty lies with the people who put them in power in the first place, not with the | ||
| president. | ||
| So don't think that you're going to be able to pick someone as your AG or your | ||
| deputy AG and slip them in there just because they did a move on Biden. | ||
| We know that they're trying to move on Biden, but they're going to move on Biden | ||
| and then try to get in with Trump again. | ||
| Don't let it happen. | ||
| This is my warning. | ||
| Do not trust Special Counsel Robert Herr either, because remember, at the end of the day, he is one of them. | ||
| He's not one of us. | ||
| Brian Costello, we were talking about this before, about how this permanent bureaucracy has used places and people and influence and dirt all throughout the years to be able to control these governments and control presidents. | ||
| And this goes all the way back to JFK and others, doesn't it? | ||
| Yeah, there's going to be there's going to be two things in play here, Jack. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Obviously, there's hey, let's let's try and keep the establishment in place and not clean out the swamp and the unit party in the intelligence state. | ||
| Let's try and keep the president in place. | ||
| But the second thing is in play is like, OK, how do they intimidate people in the event | ||
| that when Trump wins? | ||
| Right. | ||
| How do they intimidate people not to do the right thing and surface some of the things? | ||
| And we know we saw the ultimate in that with General Flynn, you know, who's going to run | ||
| the National Security Council. | ||
| So that intimidation and all that stuff is starting to take place. | ||
| So you see guys like her, you know, a lot of times they set out to kind of do the right thing, but then they have to make a very difficult call in terms of going against the establishment. | ||
| And a lot of them are on the side of what's going to impact them personally. | ||
| Right, so it's very difficult for people personally, you know, it's few and far between like, you know, Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro who end up in jail over the right position. | ||
| Most people just kind of fall in line with the party. | ||
| So we have to be very careful. | ||
| That's what also is being set up here is to intimidate people that might go in should, you know, when Trump wins the election. | ||
| Look, we talk about this. | ||
| So we've got the book on humans. | ||
| Steve Bannon wrote the forward to this thing before he ended up where he is now. | ||
| And we talked about the fact that they do not place competence at the top of their list. | ||
| They do not place virtue, loyalty to the country, loyalty to the people. | ||
| It's meaningless to these people. | ||
| What are they loyal to? | ||
| They're loyal to the party. | ||
| They're loyal to the cause. | ||
| They're loyal to whatever... How else do you explain, by the way, a Pete Buttigieg? | ||
| How else do you explain a Kamala Harris rising to the heights of power in their movement? | ||
| Because it isn't centered around loyalty to people, or certainly not competence in either case in that instance. | ||
| No. | ||
| It has to do with who is more loyal to the cause, who's more ruthless, who's more willing to take action, based on those in power. Now what's interesting now, and | ||
| this is what we see on the Democrat side and Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen | ||
| was just talking about it, is you're starting to see the Democrat Civil War because the seams are | ||
| starting to become visible. They're starting to be revealed. | ||
| And I'm telling people and and I'm seeing people in the chat, | ||
| folks are going to look, folks are going to look and see that Biden is now up against the | ||
| And there are going to be people, there are going to start to be people that say, you know what, maybe Biden is an anti-establishment guy. | ||
| And I predict that you're going to see some numbers tick back in his direction, purely on the face of the fact that he won't leave in the same way that people are going. | ||
| That's why it's incumbent on folks to actually target him right now. | ||
| That's why I want these tapes to come out. | ||
| And of course, yes, they are audio tapes. | ||
| There's no video because for some reason, special counsel Robert Herr wasn't interested | ||
| in getting video of the president of the United States committing these crimes. | ||
| It's very interesting. | ||
| Why is that, Brian? | ||
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| I mean, Jack, I think you're right around the issue. | ||
| Like what we better be very careful of here is I think what's playing is exactly what you're saying. | ||
| So Biden's now becoming the anti-establishment candidate, right? | ||
| The establishment's against him. | ||
| And at the same time, you're starting to see a lot of press around Trump, the establishment | ||
| switching to Trump, all these big donors with investments in China and everything else. | ||
| And I'd be very careful here because, you know, we haven't, my prediction is October | ||
| surprises come before October and you're going to see them do something with the weaponization | ||
| of the DOJ, something that hasn't been done yet. | ||
| And they're going to go after him in other ways. | ||
| You know, Biden alluded to that. | ||
| Remember the video with him walking away saying like, you know, we're not done yet. | ||
| There's going to be other things that like actually happen. | ||
| So I think you're spot on. | ||
| I think Biden thinks he can win because of what he's going to do moving forward. | ||
| He's going to go for the sympathy play. | ||
| He's going to go for, I'm standing up for the working man. | ||
| I'm the populist. | ||
| I'm getting the crowd support. | ||
| That's why I'm sticking in this. | ||
| I'm against the establishments. | ||
| I'm against the elites, which by the way, even if he goes down that road, the entire thing is going to be, as they would say in the pro wrestling world, a work. | ||
| It's called a work shoot and a work shoot means when the establishment now in that case it's you know it's Vince McMahon in the writers room and Triple H and all those guys and they come out and say oh this is all happening behind the scenes and it's it's terrible it's horrible but you know we got to push forward but ultimately they're all in on it and they will all be in on it because if for whatever reason they can't get rid of Biden They're going to be in and controlling his administration the same way they control him now. | ||
| The real question is whether or not they cut a deal. | ||
| And I think you're going to see over the next 24, 48, 72 hours, a really, really strong phase of pushing Biden up because they're done with the asking phase. | ||
| Now they're moving to the telling phase. | ||
| And after that comes the making phase. | ||
| They're going to make him drop out. | ||
| Brian Costello, give people your coordinates. | ||
| We're going to follow you. | ||
| Yeah, Twitter BP Costello. | ||
| And it's amazing, Jack, how they've also normalized that he hasn't had a captain in a while. | ||
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| Almost a full year. | ||
| Go give Brian Costello a follow. | ||
| You check him out. | ||
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| Right back. | ||
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