July 12, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| You know what he's capable of, you know his upsides, his downsides. | ||
| It's hard to say what do you expect because we expected something very different than what we got in the debate. | ||
| But what do you think would be helpful if he could accomplish tonight? | ||
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Well, Joe Biden knows the stakes better than anyone. | |
| So I would say a poor performance is going to accelerate Democratic officials and voices calling for him not to run. | ||
| You know, I think an average performance, probably his status quo, if he were somehow to deliver the kind of performance that looks like he could come back and enjoy, that's where I'm focused. | ||
| You guys just talked about the stakes. | ||
| They're enormous. | ||
| And so this race has to be won. | ||
| And right now we're losing. | ||
| And now I want to hand it over to the president of Ukraine who has as much courage as he has determination. | ||
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unidentified
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Ladies and gentlemen, President Putin. | |
| President Putin! | ||
| I'm gonna beat President Putin. | ||
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My question for you is, how are you incorporating these developments into your decision to stay? | |
| And, separately, what concerns do you have about Vice President Harris's ability to beat Donald Trump if she were at the top of the ticket? | ||
| Look, I wouldn't have picked Vice President Trump to be Vice President until I think she was not qualified to be President. | ||
| So let's start there. | ||
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Number one, Presidency is the most straining job in the world, and it's 24-7. | |
| How can you say you'll be up for that next year, in two years, in four years, given the limits you've acknowledged that you have today? | ||
| The limits I've acknowledged I have? | ||
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There's been reporting that you've acknowledged that you need to go to bed earlier and you're eating around 8. | |
| That's not true. | ||
| Look, what I said was, Instead of my everyday starting at 7 and going to bed at midnight, it'd be smarter for me to pace myself a little more. | ||
| And I said, for example, the 8, 7, 6 stuff. | ||
| Instead of starting the fundraiser at 9 o'clock, start at 8 o'clock. | ||
| People get to go home by 10 o'clock. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| I'm not talking about... And if you look at my schedule since I made that stupid mistake in the debate, I mean, my schedule has been full bore. | ||
| I've done, where's Trump been? | ||
| Riding around in his golf cart, filling out his scorecard before he hits the ball? | ||
| I mean, look, he's done virtually nothing. | ||
| And I have, I don't know how many, don't hold me to it, roughly 20 major events. | ||
| Someone with thousands of people showing up. | ||
| And so I just think it's better. | ||
| I always have an inclination, whether I was playing sports or doing politics, just to keep going, not stop. | ||
| I just gotta pace myself a little more. | ||
| Pace myself. | ||
| In the next debate I'm not going to be traveling in the 15 time zones a week before. | ||
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When there's an excess of love and loyalty, you get 70 million Americans who will not | |
| budge from their support for a felon, for a criminal, for an adjudicated rapist who | ||
| has promised to turn this country into an authoritarian country. | ||
| That's what happens when you won't set aside loyalty and love and emotion. | ||
| So the stakes are so high That right now the question is, you know, not that not how loyal are you, but can we avert forget about and we can talk more if you like about, you know, the event that Joe Biden were reelected. | ||
| But can you avert a second Trump presidency? | ||
| And there is not a single number out there. | ||
| Not one. | ||
| You know, Cook Report telling us that we may lose the House. | ||
| That says that Joe Biden's going to win. | ||
| And so the answer to that, which is a fair answer, is that yeah, there's still time. | ||
| There's four or five months to the election. | ||
| So then you need to ask yourself, what's the trajectory look like here? | ||
| Are things getting better? | ||
| If you believe that the problem the Democrats have is that we haven't gotten our message across, the message of the bipartisan infrastructure law, the message of capping out-of-pocket expenses in Medicare at $2,000, of capping insulin costs at $35, and standing up for veterans, if you believe that our problem is that we haven't gotten that message across well, And if you also believe that the president has the biggest megaphone, you have to drop the emotion and the loyalty and love and say, in the next four or five months, is that story going to be told with such precision and poetry and beauty that you will turn around all the numbers that say we are going to lose? | ||
| And I did this painful thing tonight because for me, the answer to that is I just don't see that trajectory. | ||
| I don't see the numbers. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies. | |
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
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unidentified
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The people have had a belly full of it. | |
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| It is Friday, July 12th. | ||
| I'm Congressman Matt Gaetz and I've got the watch here in the War Room for the next two hours. | ||
| We've got Congresswoman Paulina Luna going to join us later in the show talking about inherent contempt. | ||
| Andy Biggs, the latest fights on spending on the House floor. | ||
| Jim Hines, the lead Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, was just there in our cold open wanting you to fully experience his bug out and his pain with the State of the Biden campaign. | ||
| Joe Biden wants you to know that he does not have a bedtime. | ||
| Just because he wants the fundraisers to start an hour earlier, he does not have a bedtime. | ||
| And I gotta say, For a guy who didn't know that Donald Trump wasn't his vice president and didn't know that Vladimir Putin wasn't the president of Ukraine, I would say Biden had a pretty decent night maybe staving off some of the immediacy of this effort to try to remove him in | ||
| The bloodless coup of the Democratic Party. | ||
| Joining me right now to discuss this and much more, the brilliant Chip Roy from Texas. | ||
| Chip, thanks for being here. | ||
| I want to get to your efforts to secure the vote and stop the tens of millions of illegal aliens in this country from getting access to the ballot and diluting the power of our movement in this upcoming election. | ||
| But first, I've just got to get your take on what's going on. | ||
| You know, I was reminded last night, there was a great Dennis Miller skit from the 1980s, and he was talking about when Reagan was going to be 77 by the end of his second term. | ||
| And he quipped, he goes, you know, 77? | ||
| I was reminded last night there was a great Dennis Miller skit from the 1980s and he's | ||
| talking about when Reagan was going to be 77 by the end of his second term. | ||
| And he quipped, he goes, you know, 77, my grandfather is 77 years old and we won't let | ||
| him use the remote control. | ||
| And you know, that's all I could think about last night while I was watching Joe Biden | ||
| kind of daughter around the stage. | ||
| And as you said, he's set the bar so low in terms of our expectations while we watch him, you know, in his diminished capacity that he actually had an okay night. | ||
| So to answer your question, our Democratic colleagues are in the worst possible situation right now because there's a block of them that are looking at this guy going because they know the truth. | ||
| He has no business being in the White House right now, much less being a candidate. | ||
| But there's a bunch that are looking at the polls. | ||
| They're trying to guess. | ||
| They're like, oh, my gosh, we're going to go to Kamala Harris. | ||
| He did OK. | ||
| We can't abandon him. | ||
| They're all tied up in knots. | ||
| And look, I think we just got to keep focusing on what President Trump's going to say next week, talking about all the great policies, be organized, be solid Republicans. | ||
| But we got to keep turning the screws on them on this. | ||
| They know this guy is not mentally competent. | ||
| He cannot carry out the powers and duties of the office. | ||
| They know their vice president, who was literally a DEI vice president. | ||
| They got mad at me because I said that. | ||
| They literally, Biden said it in the summer of 19. | ||
| He said, I'm going to pick a female minority. | ||
| That's not the same as President Trump, who says, I'm going to pick the best candidate. | ||
| I don't care who they are, what their race is, where they're, you know. | ||
| And so I think we got to just keep putting the screws on them. | ||
| They're tied up in knots. | ||
| You mentioned President Trump. | ||
| He's come out with a big statement regarding the legislation you moved off the House floor this past week. | ||
| President Trump saying Republicans in Congress should attach the very important SAVE Act to the next continuing resolution. | ||
| Stop the steal, guard the vote, let the Democrats try to explain why they are against this not doable Donald John Trump. | ||
| So walk us through what the SAVE Act is, why you chose to bring it to the floor, and then your response to President Trump's call Well, what I love about President Trump is that he actually wants to fight. | ||
| He actually wants to use leverage. | ||
| He's exactly correct. | ||
| We should attach the say back to a spending bill in September, the CR, the continuing resolution as we call it. | ||
| Our friend, yours and my friend, Mike Lee in the Senate, called on doing that just last night. | ||
| He's the lead author of the bill over in the Senate. | ||
| I think most of the listeners of Steve's great show are smart enough to know what this bill does and are supportive, but just in case they don't, in short, this bill would simply require documentary proof of citizenship to vote in a federal election. | ||
| Now, a lot of people say, well, gosh, isn't that already the law? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Currently, the law says that you've got to be a citizen to vote, but we restrict the ability of states who conduct our elections in our federal system. | ||
| Uh, they restrict the ability of states to actually check citizenship. | ||
| So this bill would fix that glitch. | ||
| In other words, the federal government can't stop a state from doing it. | ||
| And we go one step further. | ||
| We say, look, in federal elections, when we've got jurisdictions like Oakland and San Francisco and New York and DC, who are actively trying to recruit and to register non-citizens and illegals, we should make it clear that we're going to have a federal standard Radical idea. | ||
| Radical idea that we're gonna check citizenship. | ||
| We allow a lot of different ways to do it so it'll survive court scrutiny. | ||
| And President Trump understands politics. | ||
| Radical idea. | ||
| Radical idea that we're going to check citizenship. | ||
| But Chip, I've got to show some of the debate to the audience that Democrats were actually | ||
| making that the notion that you would check citizenship would be would be the new Jim | ||
| Crow. | ||
| This is Congresswoman Jennifer McAllen. | ||
| Go ahead and play that for Congressman Royce. | ||
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Yes, go ahead. | |
| This bill is essentially a poll tax. | ||
| . | ||
| Because I am not aware of a single proof of citizenship document that does not cost an individual money to get it. | ||
| Unless we are requiring every state to provide one for free, and then it's an unfunded mandate. | ||
| This is the 2024 version of the Jim Crow poll tax, and we should vote against it. | ||
| Only citizens can vote for the United States Senate. | ||
| Only citizens can vote for the presidency of the United States. | ||
| So this extreme Republican voter suppression bill is not designed to solve any problem on behalf of the American people. | ||
| It is designed to jam people up and prevent Americans from voting. | ||
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The extreme Republican... | |
| So, Chip Roy, are you trying to prevent Americans from voting, or would legislation that empowers states and local governments to check citizenship stop the non-Americans from voting? | ||
| Who are you trying to jam up, Congressman Roy? | ||
| Yeah, you know, what's really funny is they try to turn this into the play of the race card, right? | ||
| They always do. | ||
| It's the only page in their playbook. | ||
| And I would note, five Democrats voted for this bill. | ||
| Five. | ||
| 198 voted against it. | ||
| And of those five, two that I know of were Hispanic members of Congress from South Texas. | ||
| So I'm sure they're going to be really interested in hearing how their colleagues think that they voted for a so-called poll tax. | ||
| Or maybe our good mutual friend Byron Donalds or Burgess Owens or any number of our members of the Republican conference that are being accused of advancing a poll tax. | ||
| It's absurd. | ||
| What we're doing is simply saying, you got to be a citizen to vote. | ||
| We provide all manners of ways to be able to prove that, following Supreme Court precedent, making sure there's not too much of a burden. | ||
| But this is just classic Democrat. | ||
| Look, they want non-citizens to vote. | ||
| They're actively saying it. | ||
| They admit it. | ||
| They've got the woman, I can't remember, the congresswoman from New York who literally last year said, yeah, we need more illegals so we can put them in our districts so they can pack them, you know, after the census so they can get more districts. | ||
| I mean, look, we know what they're trying to do. | ||
| They're using Medicaid rolls. | ||
| They're using a DMV. | ||
| They're trying to force register people who aren't citizens. | ||
| So we're just making it simple. | ||
| Like, we think citizens only should vote. | ||
| This is a clear line in the sand, and Democrats are on the wrong side of it. | ||
| And we cannot lose the plot. | ||
| President Trump makes the key point, which is that if this is not attached to must-pass legislation, then the United States Senate has no interest in this. | ||
| They want to be able to have the illegals here, packing districts for reapportionment. | ||
| They don't want more congressional allocation to Florida and to Texas and to the places people actually want to live. | ||
| They want to create sanctuary cities, let these folks Fill in every luxury hotel there, consume the resources that are intended for the people there, drive out anyone who thinks differently, and then absorb the representation. | ||
| So we've got to have that leverage. | ||
| Other than government funding, any other must-pass bill you think this dovetails well with? | ||
| I mean, honestly, between now and September 30th, I'm not sure there's another one that it's going to be able to jump on that's going to be a must pass piece of legislation that we really need to do this before September, because it's so critical to send this message before November. | ||
| So I think absolutely the spending vehicle is the right approach. | ||
| the continuing resolution if that's what we're going to do come September. | ||
| And as usual, again, President Trump is looking around the curve, which is exactly what we | ||
| want to do. | ||
| Only in Washington will Republicans go, oh gosh, we can't have that kind of a fight in | ||
| September. | ||
| We already have the upper hand. | ||
| Let's not risk it. | ||
| Why don't you guys like step on the gas? | ||
| We've heard that Chip. We've heard... | ||
| No, we've heard from all the folks, oh, the Democrats are melting down. | ||
| Just let them melt down. | ||
| We don't have to do anything. We don't have to advance any of these priorities. | ||
| And you've got the right answer, Chip Roy. | ||
| Forcing an actual bill that protects our vote. | ||
| Forcing a lot of the action. Chip Roy, Congressman from Texas. | ||
| Great fighter. Thanks for joining me in the War Room. | ||
| We'll be right back with Richard Barris. | ||
| is losing the race right now. | ||
| The polls don't show him winning. | ||
| And that's consistent. | ||
| It's not one poll. | ||
| And he said, oh, who believes the polls are right? | ||
| And he has defied the polls in the past. | ||
| And the Democrats defied the polls under his leadership in 2022 with the midterm. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But if the polls broadly for the entire duration of this race have broadly been accurate, he is losing. | ||
| And so the thing that people need to hear, In order to know that he can beat Donald Trump is how he's going to turn those polls around. | ||
| What he's going to change in the campaign. | ||
| What is going to change so that the current status quo, which is him losing, is not going to be the outcome. | ||
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We've all been having what indicate and certainly not as much as Republicans hoped. | |
| So does that surprise you, Scott? | ||
| One poll? | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, if you want to know what the polls say, listen to the Democrats who are desperate for Joe Biden to drop out of the race. | ||
| I mean, regardless of what public data you see, when elected officials with access to their private polling, when high-ranking Democrats are out begging for Joe Biden to do the right thing and step aside, you know what the polls say. | ||
| The fact he has a tied race nationally means Donald Trump is going to win the Electoral College. | ||
| I don't think this press conference, by the way, is going to change anything, whether he does well Whether he does poorly or whether he does somewhere in the middle. | ||
| First of all, he's already committed the gaffe of the day. | ||
| I mean, he was trying to introduce President Zelensky of Ukraine. | ||
| He called him President Putin. | ||
| In terms of what the average American sees over the next 24 hours, they're going to see that clip of him messing up on the world stage over and over and over. | ||
| And this press conference is not going to change it. | ||
| But one press conference doesn't change what we know. | ||
| This is a man in decline. | ||
| It's not going to get better tomorrow. | ||
| It's not going to get better in two weeks. | ||
| And I'm with Van. | ||
| I do think he's Coming out on a carpet of prayer and I'm one of them. | ||
| I'm praying for him and his family to think hard about whether he's the right person to lead this country right now and certainly whether he can look into a camera with a straight face and tell the American people I'm capable of leading it for the next four years. | ||
| Joe Biden is going to lose! | ||
| That is what we're hearing from the regime media. | ||
| I'm Congressman Matt Gaetz here in the War Room. | ||
| I'm joined in this segment by the People's Pundit, Richard Barras. | ||
| And Richard, we are seeing the meltdown with my congressional colleagues. | ||
| We see this big Politico headline that there's the Obama-Pelosi summit. | ||
| The great wizards of the Democratic Party, the great oracles, they're getting together, they're talking through their struggle session. | ||
| Meanwhile, Joe Biden says he's committed to the race. | ||
| Tell us what you're seeing in the numbers. | ||
| We just came out with one, Congressman. | ||
| This is the ugliest poll for Joe Biden we've ever seen. | ||
| And I know with that internal poll that Scott Jennings is talking about, I know the internal polling that he just referred to, it is almost identical to what we are seeing, what the New York Times is seeing. | ||
| And I just want to stress though, and I'm on a so complacency here, It is July and it isn't uncommon for a presidential candidate who's the frontrunner to be leading and start starting to like step out a little bit. | ||
| But I think there's two things that are different. | ||
| One is it's not usually the Republican candidate who steps out to a lead like this in July or August. | ||
| It's the Democratic candidate. | ||
| And then two is also Scott is right that the only thing people are going to see is Biden calling President Zelensky, President Putin. | ||
| And I think this this worry over who's running the country, you know, if Biden is in decline, if he really is senile, who is in charge? | ||
| That's all we heard. | ||
| Who is in charge? | ||
| That's the theme of the poll. | ||
| And I don't know that you can do a press conference and turn that around. | ||
| There's two. | ||
| There's the biggest problem he has. | ||
| is that he's running against a guy who was president, and he has a record. | ||
| And the retrospective approval rating of that presidency is skyrocketing right now. | ||
| So unless he can somehow get the economy to grow at, you know, five or greater every quarter from, you know, I mean, just the quarters are over. | ||
| It's over, man. | ||
| So, you know, again, I'm not trying to sow complacency. | ||
| I just don't know what Biden can do to put people's fear at rest. | ||
| I don't know that I buy that this race is quite that dynamic, Richard. | ||
| To be honest with you, I think that you get dynamic races that shift as circumstances change, right? | ||
| But here, what has caused this collapse in the Biden vote seems to be this searing image of a man in great decline without anyone in control. | ||
| And it's unsettling, and it's just hard to get off of. | ||
| I don't know that good job numbers are going to fundamentally change how people are going are viewing Joe Biden right now. | ||
| And one thing I noticed in the data I saw is that the Biden collapse seems to be quite gendered, | ||
| actually, that women are not abandoning him as the same rate as men, but that President Trump's lead | ||
| among men right now is like 28 points, which is really a ballast against any other type of shift | ||
| that Biden could try to manufacture. | ||
| Why do you think it's such a gendered split in how people have reacted following the debate? | ||
| Yeah, I think I think part of that is human nature. | ||
| And it's but we see this in numbers among Hispanics. | ||
| They're just, you know, there's there's something about human nature, men are just uncomfortable with with weakness, you know, and then I think men generally, you know, get get older, and they know how how different they are personally, you know, how much they can go out, you know, do physical work or how much they could go out and tolerate a long day. | ||
| So I, you know, I do age better. | ||
| Isn't that They do. | ||
| They really do. | ||
| You go to any nursing home, and the ladies are all gathered up, playing canasta together, high-fiving, hanging out, and the dudes, for the most part, are wondering who's going to change the bedpan next. | ||
| So maybe it's that men kind of get the fact that women age better, and they see what they see in Joe Biden, and we see it all too often. | ||
| I think Axelrod was the commentator who's repeatedly gone to the line that Father Time is undefeated. | ||
| There's also a lot of reporting right now that the Biden campaign is testing Harris straight up on Trump. | ||
| And I want to get into this with you because either They've gone rogue and someone has just ordered a vendor to do this poll as part of the broader campaign to try to push Joe Biden out of the contest. | ||
| Or there are some Biden people who actually believe Harris will test worse. | ||
| We saw that Harris X poll that showed that Kamala Harris was actually losing by almost double the margin as Joe Biden. | ||
| And I've looked at some of these swing state polls. | ||
| And a lot of the voters there that Biden was able to appeal to in 2020 that might have voted for Trump in 2016, they look at Harris a lot more like through an image rating of a Hillary Clinton than they do a Joe Biden. | ||
| So is the Harris heads up poll on Trump meant to bolster Biden or discourage him from your standpoint? | ||
| And then how do you think that image rating is going to play out in the in the battlegrounds? | ||
| Yeah, I totally agree with that analogy to Hillary Clinton. | ||
| We asked an interesting question, which is, how comfortable are you with Kamala Harris basically being, you know, Biden heartbeat away from the presidency? | ||
| And America has never liked that. | ||
| They don't like her, man. | ||
| I mean, I just don't know how else. | ||
| There's no nice way to put this. | ||
| She collapsed during her run for president for a reason. | ||
| She's unlikable and she does test poorly. | ||
| We've done Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, everybody you could possibly imagine. | ||
| and Kamala Harris polls among the worst. | ||
| Outside of polls, I would put it in a real-world perspective. | ||
| Think about Erie County, Pennsylvania, folks. | ||
| Think about Northampton, Pennsylvania, or Juneau County, Wisconsin. | ||
| These battleground counties in the Midwest at the side of the presidency. | ||
| Think about Macomb County, Michigan. | ||
| Who would do better there, even in its diminished capacity? | ||
| I would argue that Scranton Joe is still a more appealing candidate than Kamala Harris. | ||
| And I mean, I have the data to back it up. | ||
| It's not even, you know, an argument or, you know, I'm coming on. | ||
| This is coming off with a whim here. | ||
| This is just the world we live in. | ||
| She's a coastal Democrat. | ||
| She is very different. | ||
| And it's got an appeal to a certain slice of a Democratic voter. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| You know, even Gavin Newsom. | ||
| So you're not the only one making that argument. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| She just doesn't have that appeal. | ||
| and i had a real from delaware from delaware this morning they tried out | ||
| chris coons joe biden's best friend in the united states senate and he gets | ||
| into a feisty little exchange with sarah sidner about about joe biden being the | ||
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only one who can win let's let's get that clip down to dictators he makes america weak | |
| qualifying someone who wants to be commander in chief Let me step in and ask you this, because we have some CNN reporting that there are some angry and stunned Democrats that are kind of blaming Biden's closest advisors for shielding him from the public and for the full extent of what he has been going through, which they call the president's decline. | ||
| One of the top Democrats in close touch with Biden's inner circle advisors told CNN everyone who expresses any level of suspicion or contrary views, they call everyone and they beat the S out of them and say, stay on message. These are people | ||
| who are trying to get a message to Joe Biden and they feel like they're not being heard. | ||
| What do you say to them? | ||
| Well, Sarah, you can put anonymous quotes up here day after day after day. | ||
| And I can tell you. | ||
| But it's not just anonymous, though, Senator. | ||
| It's not just anonymous. | ||
| People have come out in full... I'll let you answer the question, but it isn't just anonymous. | ||
| That was one person. | ||
| Sure, go ahead. | ||
| I'm sorry, Sarah? | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| No, no, you ask your questions. | ||
| No, I just said it's not just anonymous. | ||
| We've seen 17 members of Congress come out publicly and say this, including a high ranking member, the top member of the Intel Committee coming out, Jim Himes. | ||
| So what do you say to them? | ||
| How do you convince them that Biden is the person that needs to be, have all the horses behind him? | ||
| Okay, now that's two different issues. | ||
| Let me speak to the first and then the second, okay? | ||
| You put out an anonymous quote that someone claims that Biden's aides are shielding him and beating the stuffing out of them when they try to express something. | ||
| I was personally on a call that lasted well over an hour last Saturday, where our president kept asking for input, asking for, give it to me straight, tell us what you're hearing. | ||
| Alright, let's come back. | ||
| It's after that. | ||
| Well, we shouldn't be worried because Joe Biden is asking for input. | ||
| Richard Barris got about 20 seconds left. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is this a campaign in meltdown or are they going to be able to right the ship? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, this is as bad as it gets for a presidential campaign. | ||
| But again, I got to say, I do agree with Senator Coons. | ||
| He still is the strongest candidate they have on the bench, which is a sad state of affairs for the Democratic Party. | ||
| Indeed, Joe Biden still standing. | ||
| Richard Barris breaking it all down for us. | ||
| Thanks for joining us on The War Room. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
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So, oh, oh, it's true Monday, well, they walk down | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance We're back in the war room. | ||
| I'm Congressman Matt Gaetz. | ||
| I've got with me Andy Biggs of Arizona. | ||
| Andy, we had Chip Roy on earlier. | ||
| He was talking about the SAVE Act, which the Congress passed this past week. | ||
| And President Trump has come out with a statement that that has to be attached to the government funding legislation coming up in September. | ||
| Do you have Uh, sort of a game plan, battle plan as to how to get these illegal immigrants out of the voting system with leverage, with a recalcitrant Senate and a recalcitrant administration. | ||
| Well, President Trump's right on the money. | ||
| The only way you're going to actually move this forward is to actually tie it to funding. | ||
| That's the only thing they respond to, and that's the way to do it. | ||
| Now, in the meantime, what has to happen is we actually have to pass legislation, make sure we have additional legislation dealing with Help America Votes Act and the VRA that is also tied to funding that says these states are not going to get their funding for other issues unless they actually start Preventing illegal aliens from voting. | ||
| Clear off the voter rolls so you don't have dead people voting too. | ||
| And there's a way to do that, Matt, and it's called the funding mechanisms. | ||
| And I sure would like our colleagues, yours and my colleagues, to actually start saying we're going to use what the founders gave us as the most important check on a runaway government. | ||
| And so the House of Representatives also considered funding legislation this past week for the legislative branch functions of government. | ||
| And I'm always of the view that you've got to lead by example. | ||
| And if you're going to ask other agencies of government to take cuts, then you have to take cuts too, as the legislators, as the legislative branch. | ||
| Unfortunately, the bill that Republicans brought to the floor of the House on legislative branch appropriations Actually increased spending above and beyond the Nancy Pelosi levels by about $300 million. | ||
| Andy Biggs and I voted against that bill. | ||
| It died because it did not have the requisite votes to pass. | ||
| But Andy, help this audience understand sort of the confrontation we face within the House Republican Conference when we try to cut spending on anything at all. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Our team doesn't want to cut anything. | ||
| So if you looked at that bill, they raised it by 5.6, almost 6% increase in funding overall for the legislative branch. | ||
| But when you start looking at it, they were increasing funding for the publications office. | ||
| There's a million here. | ||
| There's $61 million more for the Library of Congress. | ||
| And when we go to people, and we actually had three amendments on there to reduce some of those increases. | ||
| And Matt, they all went down. | ||
| You had a majority of Republicans vote for them, but you had 20, 30, in some cases 80 Republicans vote against those amendments that would reduce spending. | ||
| And you and I have seen this our entire time in Congress. | ||
| Our colleagues will talk a good game about trying to bring the budget under control, but they just want to manage the decline a little more sharply than the Democrats do, but they're content with the decline based on Our spending. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| It's frustrating as heck. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean this is what is causing the inflation. | ||
| I think that is the disconnect that a lot of leaders in Washington don't understand. | ||
| That inflation and higher prices did not just emerge because some Wizard of Oz-like character behind some curtain twisted some dial somewhere. | ||
| It is a direct consequence of our irresponsible decisions on spending and on the debt. | ||
| And then we demand single-subject bills so that we can have amendments to put downward pressure on that spending, and it's our Republican colleagues Who are off voting with the Democrats and we're just not going to have it. | ||
| So if there's going to be some fund the whole government all at once thing rolling our way, there absolutely has to be the attachment of the SAVE Act and some of the protections that President Trump has called for, for election integrity. | ||
| And Andy, you're from right in the heart of this battle in Arizona. | ||
| Big Senate race. | ||
| A number of very important House races. | ||
| Of course, the electoral votes of Arizona are up for grabs. | ||
| How do you assess the political climate in the state right now? | ||
| Kerry Lake running an energetic campaign. | ||
| A number of these House campaigns, like for the Lesko seat, getting very competitive. | ||
| How hot is the Arizona political climate in July? | ||
| Well, it's hotter than the 120 degree temperatures we have here, Matt. | ||
| I'll tell you what's going on. | ||
| You've got Donald Trump as president leading the ticket. | ||
| He's up about nine, ten points here. | ||
| Helping him is that Jill Stein and RFK Jr. | ||
| are still on the ballot here. | ||
| So that's good. | ||
| And if he wins anything more than five by five or six points, that's going to actually help the down ballot ticket. | ||
| So we've got, you know, Ruben Gallego, who's the Democrat running for the U.S. | ||
| Senate. | ||
| He is an absolute total Marxist. | ||
| And then on the other side, you've got Kerry Lake and Mark Lamb, both good candidates, both good people. | ||
| We're going to see one of them is going to emerge. | ||
| And I think I know who it is by the polling that I'm seeing. | ||
| But regardless, I think the Republicans are going to pull behind these people. | ||
| There's dissension a little bit that we have to quell amongst Republicans. | ||
| We always have that because we're independent thinkers, and I'm working on that. | ||
| But I think Donald Trump's going to do great, and he's going to have long coattails, which he didn't have in 2020, for instance. | ||
| But he will have it here. | ||
| You're going to get a good candidate out of eight, which is Lesko's seat. | ||
| Cisco Monte is going to come back probably in his seat most likely. | ||
| And then you actually have a quasi-competitive race in one other seat for the House. | ||
| But what's most important though is the down-ballot tickets look fairly good for Republicans. | ||
| And that's what you have to do because the state has to get strong. | ||
| Matt, I'll just tell you, this is a really fiery primary going on right now. | ||
| It starts voting here in a couple of weeks and people are, it's lively, it's active, and I'm hoping that everybody comes back together and Donald Trump will be the reason that they come back together and the anti-Biden vote as well. | ||
| One of those lively primaries involves our good friend Congressman Eli Crane in Arizona's 2nd District. | ||
| Kevin McCarthy recruited a candidate to run against Eli Crane, but hilariously, the candidate that Kevin McCarthy recruited, their name was Jack Smith. | ||
| So I guess, like, Hannibal Lecter IV wasn't available, and they ended up with Jack Smith, but what we've seen there is after two weeks of intense spending on the part of McCarthy and his allies, they've functionally abandoned the race. | ||
| It turns out it took them hundreds of thousands of dollars to figure this out, but you cannot move voters in Arizona, too, off of Eli Crane and onto someone called Jack Smith. | ||
| I probably could have told him that with a Swift kick to the nuts and it would have been less painful than what they've endured. | ||
| But nonetheless, some lessons have to be learned. | ||
| I do want to talk to you, Andy, about what we're seeing going on right now with the Democrats and Biden and this big Pelosi-Obama summit that we have seen. | ||
| It seems to indicate to me that the big meeting is coming. | ||
| Where they sit Joe Biden down and they get Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, Obama, Ron Klain, and they sit down Jill and Hunter and Joe and they say, it's time for your next patriotic act. | ||
| You've got to step aside so that we can all endorse Kamala Harris. | ||
| I think that meeting is coming. | ||
| I think it's going to be soon. | ||
| My latest defection count among the Democrats was like two or three senators and approaching 20 members of the House. | ||
| You know these people. | ||
| You have relationships on both sides of the aisle. | ||
| Give the war room posse a peek into just the complete level of despair and dysfunction that we're observing with Washington Democrats. | ||
| Well, first of all, last night I'm at the airport. | ||
| I'm talking to Greg Stanton, Democrat congressman. | ||
| We're very friendly with each other. | ||
| We've known each other a long time, although we differ on policy like night and day. | ||
| But I asked him, point blank, and he indicated to me that he had just released his statement asking Biden to jump from the ticket. | ||
| And then you and I both know there are folks on the floor. | ||
| They've gone beyond despair. | ||
| And he told me, by the way, he gave me a list of other names that were coming out last night as well against Biden. | ||
| So this is running rampant. | ||
| It's actually receiving critical mass. | ||
| And you and I both know individuals, and sometimes you move despair into humor. | ||
| And so I've been approached by different guys from the Democrats in the last few days on the floor, and they literally will come and say, hey guys, bad news, we're missing the president. | ||
| It turns out he's talking to lampposts, and lampposts are talking back. | ||
| And you know, it's all done in humor, but it's black humor, dark humor. | ||
| And that's what you're seeing, and it's moving to this point of despair that they have, and they're trying to get beyond it. | ||
| This I view the discussion between the group that you're talking about is going to come to Joe Biden. | ||
| This is going to be like those of us who had older parents. | ||
| We had to do this is that important thing, especially in Arizona, where driving is all important is to go to your your ancient aged parent. | ||
| Who is a danger on the road and say, look, dad, it's time that we have, we need to take the car keys away. | ||
| That's a tough discussion to have. | ||
| They're going to have it. | ||
| And, and I'm going to tell you the patriotic thing to do here when they appeal to patriotism, it's not going to be patriotism. | ||
| It's going to be personal self-interest. | ||
| And you and I both know this because we've been on these investigations for years now. | ||
| It's going to be, there's going to be pardons for the whole Biden family. | ||
| There's going to be money that's going to have to change hands. | ||
| Biden controls $240 million of campaign donations. | ||
| Who gets to take it over right now? | ||
| The structure set up that Kamala Harris would be the one that takes it over if Biden leaves. | ||
| So there you have a whole lot of legal issues that they're going to have to work through, but they're also going to have to deal with the Biden family, which is basically a business entity rather than a collegial family necessarily. | ||
| I think they like each other, but the bottom line is It's about the money. | ||
| It's about the power. | ||
| It's about the pardons. | ||
| And that's what I see happening in that important phone call. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Oh, this will be in person. | ||
| This won't be a phone call. | ||
| But actually, you frame it up in a different way than I thought about it. | ||
| I viewed this as a psyop, that basically they had to encircle Biden with a group of people now, gain his trust, and that ultimately that would be the group that would push him out. | ||
| sort of the the goldwater nixon moment that they've been the watershed moment but what you're saying is that is is you can get rid of all of the psychoanalysis this is a business transaction according to andy biggs that at the end of the day this is going to be about business this is going to be about money this is going to be about evading accountability For the things that have happened to our country and that ultimately that's the glide path. | ||
| We had Richard Barris on earlier talking about how Kamala Harris in those blue wall states in the Midwest, she has an image rating that reflects more Hillary Clinton energy than a Joe Biden energy. | ||
| If ultimately Kamala Harris does replace Biden on the ticket, how do you think that affects the desert winds in Arizona? | ||
| Well, she's not going to do well in Arizona, I don't believe. | ||
| And I'll tell you why. | ||
| Kamala Harris is not liked by, and you know this too, by Democrats in Congress, Democrats in the National Party. | ||
| They just don't like her. | ||
| And they don't trust her, and they don't think she can deliver. | ||
| And that same sentiment goes in Arizona. | ||
| As difficult as these moments are for them to finally get a grip that Joe Biden is what | ||
| you and I knew and every American who was watching knows, that he has been incapable | ||
| for years to actually run the country. | ||
| So they're just now coming to light with that. | ||
| They have never trusted Kamala Harris, the so-called border czar. | ||
| They all know in Arizona, they know what's going on with the border. | ||
| You've got a so-called border czar who's never been to the border. | ||
| She's been near it. | ||
| She had a margarita at a cantina outside the airport in El Paso, but she's never been to the border. | ||
| Well, border czaring doesn't mean you actually have to go. | ||
| You can't virtually border czar, Andy. | ||
| Everyone's working from home now. | ||
| You're telling me the border czaring activities can't occur from the Naval Observatory? | ||
| No, actually, Joe Biden appointing Kamala Harris the border czar might have been the first failed mental competency test that we have on record with Joe Biden because anyone that would put Kamala Harris in charge of anything Has obviously failed their mental competency test. | ||
| As vice president, I guess the theory was, you know, you send her to some funerals, you send her to some weddings, she can't get around any sharp objects, but everything they touch seems to break. | ||
| The economy, the border, gender. | ||
| They even broke gender. | ||
| We're here in the War Room. | ||
| I'm Congressman Matt Gaetz. | ||
| Andy Biggs is with us. | ||
| Andy, join us after the break. | ||
| Hang with us. | ||
| There's much more we've got to get into. | ||
| The politics on the Hill. | ||
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To the President to decide if he is going to run. | |
| We're all encouraging him to make that decision. | ||
| He has said he has made the decision. | ||
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He has said firmly this week he is going to run. | |
| Do you want him to run? | ||
| I want him to do whatever he decides to do. | ||
| Let me make it very clear. | ||
| My main concern is his health and well-being as president, okay? | ||
| And I think he'll make the right decision. | ||
| The right decision is what's right for him. | ||
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He's gonna make that decision. | |
| If it's right for the country, then we'll make a decision from there. | ||
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I have complete confidence that Joe Biden will do the patriotic thing for the country. | |
| And he's going to make that decision. | ||
| He's never disappointed me. | ||
| He's always put patriotism and the country ahead of himself. | ||
| And I'm going to respect the decision that he makes. | ||
| And he's going to make the decision that is not about him, that is about what's best for our country. | ||
| And we all know what the challenges are. | ||
| But I have confidence that President Biden is going to make the right decision. | ||
| If you're trying to get me to take a position on whether he should continue his campaign, I have great confidence, whatever President Biden decides, that he'll do the right thing for the country. | ||
| We're back live in the war room. | ||
| I've got Congressman Andy Biggs with me. | ||
| We've got the watch as our good friend Steve Bannon continues as a political prisoner in this country, fighting for each and every one of us. | ||
| Andy, they're all waiting for Joe Biden to make the decision, but it kind of looks like Joe Biden and Jill and Hunter have decided and people aren't willing to accept the decision. | ||
| What do you make of a lot of these commentators on the left? | ||
| Well, you're right. | ||
| I think Biden family has made their decision, and their decision is to stay in the race. | ||
| I kind of hope they do stay in the race, but the reality is the left-wing media that has gaslit Americans for three and a half years over Joe Biden They're now trying to backpedal to somehow say that they're real journalists. | ||
| They're not real journalists. | ||
| They lie to you all the time, and they're going to keep lying to you. | ||
| On the other hand, you got the left-wing politicians. | ||
| They lied to you and gaslit you about Joe Biden. | ||
| Look, I'll just get back to what you and I were talking about just a second ago in relation to this. | ||
| When I've talked to my Democrat friends in the House on the floor, I tell them when Trump was in the White House, he had senators and House members coming to the White House daily to talk to him about what's going on, legislation, what's going on in the world, that type of thing. | ||
| I said, when's the last time you were in the White House just to visit with Joe Biden as | ||
| a friend and talk to him about what's going on? | ||
| Zero. | ||
| Zip. | ||
| Nada. | ||
| They don't do it. | ||
| And that's because Joe Biden is incapable of doing it. | ||
| And so they gaslit you. | ||
| They're going to continue to gaslight you. | ||
| Don't ever forget that. | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, there are people in the Witness Protection Program we have seen more | ||
| of than Joe Biden before that debate. | ||
| I mean, they had totally bubble-wrapped the guy. | ||
| And an honest question the country might ask is, how could we believe a political party that was lying to us for quite some time about the condition of the President of the United States? | ||
| And you mentioned the media. | ||
| Like, I've noticed the media is big mad about this. | ||
| And I can only assume it's because on most things there is an understanding between the media and Democrats that they're going to work together to lie to the country about us, about the America First conservatives. | ||
| And it seems to me the reason the media is so mad now is because they weren't cut in on the lie. | ||
| Like, the Democrats actually made the media go peddle this fiction that Joe Biden was together and with it and sharp, and that now the media's like, wait a second, it was supposed to be us lying to the country about the Republicans, now we were the ones being lied to. | ||
| And you see it all over the faces of the Rachel Maddows and Joe Scarboroughs and, you know, who can even tell them apart anymore? | ||
| But what do you think? | ||
| Is the media resentful of not being cut in? | ||
| I think you're absolutely right. | ||
| I mean, think of this. | ||
| You have this propaganda machine and all of a sudden the propagandists who thought they were in the know, they missed out on it. | ||
| I mean, they missed out because They did it willfully, by the way. | ||
| They all knew that Joe Biden was incompetent, because everybody knows that Joe Biden's incompetent. | ||
| But they felt hoodwinked because KJP was in there saying, hey, look, these are deep fakes. | ||
| These videos have been altered. | ||
| When he goes to sit in a chair that isn't there, or he's shaking hands with a ghost, any of those things that have happened over the last years, The media was, you know, they were out there, oh, no, you know, that's just not happening, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Co-conspirators. | ||
| Co-conspirators at worst, I would say. | ||
| Yeah, and now, and you've seen it, when I was in practicing law, when co-conspirators go bad, they go mad, and they start ratting each other out, and that's what's happening here. | ||
| They're ratting each other out, and that's what happens. | ||
| That's such a good analogy. | ||
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| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It's so true. | ||
| So there's a- Go ahead, Andy. | ||
| Yeah, I'm just going to say, please tell everybody to go to Geert Wilders and look. | ||
| I've retweeted it. | ||
| Great meme. | ||
| You've got a picture of Zelensky. | ||
| You've got a picture of Kamala Harris. | ||
| I'm sorry to take you from this, but it's just one of the funniest memes I've seen forever. | ||
| It says, President Putin meets Vice President Trump. | ||
| And it's just so apropos to everything you and I have been talking about. | ||
| Anytime Andy Biggs has a meme recommendation, the posse is 100% here for it. | ||
| Andy, before I let you go, there is another thing I want to talk about. | ||
| In the Hill, there's a big story about bitterness and dissension in the House Freedom Caucus. | ||
| I'm not a member of that organization. | ||
| You formerly led it. | ||
| I am a huge admirer of the Freedom Caucus. | ||
| I attempt at times to be an influencer of the good work that inspires so many around the country. | ||
| Can you give people hope that the Freedom Caucus is going to continue to be a beacon, a shining light for fighting conservatives on Capitol Hill? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| We're together. | ||
| We're united. | ||
| There's always, you know, when you're close with a band of brothers, there's always going to be some rubs now and then, but we're all in it together. | ||
| We're still on the same page. | ||
| We're still fighting. | ||
| You know, you look at the people who are on how we voted this week on those bills and the amendments that you and I talked about. | ||
| We're united. | ||
| We're going to go forward. | ||
| The Freedom Caucus is going to be stronger than ever, I believe, going forward. | ||
| And I would always remind people, you know, the HFC, with our friends like you and Timmy Burchett and Cory Mills and others, we were the ones that always had Donald Trump's back on the Make America First agenda. | ||
| And you, you were right there with us. | ||
| I always viewed you as kind of an associate member of HFC. | ||
| But the reality is, we're going to be there again, continue to fight for America first. | ||
| Because that is the way we're going to turn this ship around. | ||
| And the ship does need to be righted. | ||
| So, thanks for that, Matt. | ||
| The Freedom Caucus is fighting. | ||
| I'm fighting. | ||
| Andy Biggs is fighting. | ||
| Check out his podcast, What's the Biggs Idea? | ||
| Andy, thanks for being in the War Room, my friend. | ||
| We'll be right back with Congresswoman Ana Paulina Luna talking Merit Garland and inherent contempt. |
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