July 9, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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We've seen brave men overcome obstacles that seem insurmountable and forces that seem overwhelming. | |
| Men with courage and vision can still determine their own destiny. | ||
| They can choose slavery or freedom, war or peace. | ||
| I have no doubt which they will choose. | ||
| That was then-President Harry Truman speaking to world leaders at the NATO signing ceremony back in 1949. | ||
| Today, leaders will gather in that same auditorium in Washington, D.C. | ||
| to mark 75 years since the world's most powerful security alliance was formed. | ||
| Wall Street Journal op-ed piece by Jerry Baker about how Labor won a crushing victory in part because populists and conservatives couldn't become aligned in Britain. | ||
| You, you're right, your piece is absolutely fascinating and a lesson that A critical lesson going back to what you've been writing about for years, and that is how to defeat populism. | ||
| You talk about two types of populism, actually, that labor was able to defeat. | ||
| How did they do it? | ||
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So, and this is relevant to the NATO Summit too, of course. | |
| What the Labour Party did was reform itself, and led by Keir Starmer, who is now the Prime Minister. | ||
| They moved it away from far-left positions that it had under the previous leader, Jeremy Corbyn, who lost a couple of elections with those. | ||
| They moved it Not just to the center, but they moved it to economic, local, domestic issues. | ||
| So, schools, hospitals, you know, what people think about when they wake up in the morning. | ||
| They tried to reconnect it with ordinary voters. | ||
| They talk about working people. | ||
| They talk about service. | ||
| You can hear it in all of their language and every labor politician that I met last week Everybody that I interviewed uses the same kind of language. | ||
| And at the same time, they use that language to fight the legacy of the previous Tory governments who had used populism, nationalism, fear of immigrants to create a kind of hysteria about the need for Britain to defend itself, remove itself from Europe, remove itself from institutions. | ||
| And by refocusing on what people care about, and by saying they want to show that Labour is a reliable partner, it's a part of the world, we're going to trade normally with our neighbours, by doing that, they made Labour a trustworthy party again, and they won. | ||
| And it's not an exact parallel to the US at all, it's a different voting system, and so on, but that instinct, That what really matters is how we talk to people, you know, why they should vote for us, you know, making yourselves electable in the best possible sense is a way to defeat both this kind of mad, sometimes madness on the left, as well as the really dangerous right wing populism that we now have everywhere. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
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It's going to happen. | |
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard. | ||
| Today is 9 July 2024, year of our Lord. | ||
| You're in the war room, and Steve Bannon is a political prisoner. | ||
| Today, the 75th anniversary of NATO opens right down the road from where we sit, ensconced in the war room embassy. | ||
| Zelensky is coming to town. | ||
| Every single member of NATO is coming to town, including the Japanese, the South Koreans. | ||
| But I'll tell you someone who won't be coming is an American president or an American commander-in-chief. | ||
| Because as of right now, it is hard to understand whether or not America has a commander-in-chief. | ||
| Certainly not from 4 p.m. | ||
| until 10 a.m. | ||
| Who's the commander-in-chief from 4 p.m. | ||
| to 10 a.m.? | ||
| And we're gonna drill down with Congress today to try to figure out that very question, because the House GOP needs to get on the ball regarding this specifically. | ||
| Then you've got, look at what's happened over in the UK and over in France. | ||
| We thought the right was resurgent. | ||
| We thought the right was, and in fact, they were. | ||
| Look, Ann Applebaum up there on the Atlantic, you know, she's got her piece in the Atlantic today. | ||
| She's up there on MSNBC. | ||
| Oh, the labor, the great victory. | ||
| No, it wasn't that. | ||
| It wasn't that at all. | ||
| It was the fact That the Tories campaigned like a bunch of globalist liberals, that they embraced mass immigration, they embraced the pride flag everywhere in the country, and they got their lunch eaten by Nigel Farage. | ||
| Labor was the de facto winner. | ||
| They were not the will of the people. | ||
| That was not their will. | ||
| So, we have these governments that have taken power because As the same way we saw in France. | ||
| What did Macron do? | ||
| The deal with the devil. | ||
| To get the Islamists and the Antifa militias that we now see marching across Paris. | ||
| You think that won't happen here? | ||
| No. | ||
| We are 118 days to victory. | ||
| 118 days to victory. | ||
| And I'd like to open the show with this. | ||
| A little message. | ||
| Hey, Joy Reid. | ||
| You remember this, right, Joy? | ||
| Yeah, you remember this, Joy Reid. | ||
| So, we're not going to pray for Steve Bannon, because he didn't ask for prayers or letters, but we're going to say a prayer for the posse. | ||
| Nomine Padre et Filii et Spiritus Sancti. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. | ||
| Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. | ||
| May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. | ||
| And do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, through the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits. | ||
| Prowl about the world, seeking the ruin of souls. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Omni Padre et Filii et Spiritus Sancti. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Want to bring in Brent, Ben Harnwell here. | ||
| Ben has been shuttling back and forth between DC and Rome. | ||
| He's back in Rome today, but he's over there to give us a view. | ||
| Ben, as we come into this, and it is a historic NATO summit, I want to get in for just a tease because we've got Congressman Eli Crane coming in a minute, so we'll go to him and then back to you. | ||
| But just give us, set the stage for us very quickly. | ||
| I know you're a little bit jet lagged from going back to Rome overnight. | ||
| Set the stage for the importance of this NATO meeting as Zelensky comes to town. | ||
| Well, good morning, Posse. | ||
| Morning, Warren Posse. | ||
| It's really a shtick on behalf of an institution that no longer has a purpose in the modern world. | ||
| And it's trying to justify its existence, which it has been doing since Emmanuel Macron. | ||
| And we see this now. | ||
| About three years ago, we see the consequences of what he said. | ||
| He said that NATO was brain dead and on life support. | ||
| So obviously, the war members needed a war. | ||
| They found one. | ||
| They created one. | ||
| They walked Ukraine down the Primrose Path and they have a war. | ||
| Now, what I'm looking at now, because the NATO, this 75th anniversary summit runs from today until Thursday, and it's going to be a shift, I think. | ||
| They're going to try to pivot. | ||
| To justify their existence, not only in the North Atlantic sphere, but you can hear soundings coming out already, Jack, that there's an interest now in the South China Sea was obviously of interest to a great many people. | ||
| But it's not. | ||
| There's no way whatsoever that this is part of NATO's actual territory to defend against invasion. | ||
| So I'd say that Ukraine, they're going to come out with something. | ||
| For Ukraine, I've heard that the European component of NATO is going to pledge, I think, about 43 billion euros to Ukraine. | ||
| There's going to be some sort of soundings about Ukraine, like don't forget that Biden in a senile moment In this Time magazine interview about six weeks ago, he let slip that he'd already vetoed Ukraine's entrance into NATO. | ||
| This was at the Vilnius annual summit this time last year. | ||
| But they've come up with something to keep the pretense going, at least until November. | ||
| So those are the two things that I'm looking forward to. | ||
| Looking at what they're going to try, how they're going to try to pivot to the South China Sea and what they're going to line up for Zelensky as a goody bag. | ||
| If I can, Jack, I just want to respond to Anne Applebaum in the cold open. | ||
| She could not be more wrong. | ||
| Labour did not win this election. | ||
| The Tories lost it. | ||
| I'll just give a quick statistic and then I'll pass back over to you. | ||
| Five years ago in the 2019 general election, The Tories got 43.6% of the vote and Labour got 32.1%. | ||
| Hold on to that 32.1%. | ||
| This time they got 33.7%. | ||
| So it's like a jump of 1.5%. | ||
| point one. Hold on to that 32.1. This time they got 33.7. | ||
| So it's like a jump of one and a half percent. The Tory vote collapsed from 43 percent | ||
| down to 23.7. | ||
| So they lost 20 percent. | ||
| That is the consequence of what happened. | ||
| And all of that shtick about, you know, the Labour Party sort of putting out feelers. | ||
| They're going to play the internationalist game with Europe. | ||
| They're going to play the internationalist game with NATO. | ||
| They veered away from populism. | ||
| It's all nonsense. | ||
| The Tory party lost the general election because it promised it would take real people living up in my area, the East Midlands, and the rest of the country. | ||
| They would take their interests seriously and they betrayed it almost instantly. | ||
| That's why the Tory party lost. | ||
| And that is the message I think Republicans in Congress, in the United States, should be paying attention to. | ||
| Look, look, they're trying to spin this as populism is dead, Donald Trump is dead, the movement is gone, the MAGA movement, which foresailed the wins in 2016 with Brexit, is now also going to be presaged by a quote-unquote populist collapse in France and England. | ||
| And that's not exactly what happened. | ||
| That's not the case whatsoever. | ||
| And we can look at the votes. | ||
| President Trump was posting this on his true social account last night. | ||
| The article's from Breitbart. | ||
| He's got it up predicting exactly and reflecting exactly what you just said, Ben, this idea | ||
| that it is the right, the real right, which is resurgent. | ||
| It is the real right which is on the way up. | ||
| And Ben, let's talk about that in a minute because I want to get in Congressman Eli Crain, | ||
| who we have. | ||
| We've only got him for a brief time. | ||
| But Congressman, thank you for coming on so much so early this morning. | ||
| I understand you have votes that you have to get to in a minute, but what I want to | ||
| on here is that we have the advent of the NATO summit, the 75th anniversary today. | ||
| And yet we in the United States have serious questions about who our commander in chief | ||
| is. | ||
| You've got a background as a Navy SEAL. | ||
| Explain to the posse and explain to the audience the significance of the fact that we're not | ||
| sure who is giving the orders at the top. | ||
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Well, thanks for having me on, Jack. | |
| I don't think you have to be a Navy SEAL or like yourself, a Naval Intelligence Officer | ||
| to understand that or to question who is the commander in chief. | ||
| I mean, this guy, we've all seen it. | ||
| We saw it in primetime last week. | ||
| The guy can't put a couple sentences together. | ||
| You know, if he wasn't the president of the United States, I think he would have to, you know, have a handler, you know, taking him around, making sure, you know, he gets his pudding in his naps. | ||
| On a daily basis, and it's terrifying because of the state of the world right now. | ||
| As you know, Jack, the world isn't getting any less dangerous, and we have a lot of threats to deal with. | ||
| I would argue the biggest threats that we have are right here within, but this commander-in-chief that we have, President Joe Biden, is definitely not up to the task, and it's why it's so important that we get strong leadership back in the White House. | ||
| Well Congressman, obviously we have the threats on the inside, we have the infiltration that we're focused on, we have the invasion at our border that we're focused on, but I want to drill down on this, and this is something that Steve was saying before he went off on his extended assignment, and we know that he's away on assignment doing show prep for his triumphant return, and we've just got a minute so I'd love to be able to hold you over the break, is that We have a situation that isn't just about the candidacy for the Democrats and will it be Biden? | ||
| Will it be Kamala? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| We have a situation right now because you've got a national security crisis. | ||
| Who's taking the briefings? | ||
| Who's submitting the orders? | ||
| Are those orders even legal? | ||
| We've got to go all the way back. | ||
| 2022 now, we've got the news and Wall Street Journal's got the deep dive on this, that he couldn't even hold meetings with Olaf Scholz because they were being held too late at night. | ||
| So that's 2022 and the outbreak of the Ukraine war. | ||
| Who has been steering this the whole way? | ||
| And we hear these people like Victoria Nuland who were involved at the time, Tony Blinken who was involved at the time, Jill Biden apparently creating this impenetrable bubble around the president. | ||
| Who in fact is the commander-in-chief? | ||
| Who is at the top of the chain of command? | ||
| Last minute, Congressman. | ||
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Well, that's a big question, Jack. | |
| I mean, I think a lot of it is probably handled by aides and staff. | ||
| You know, I know there's plenty of other influences out there. | ||
| You know, I believe like many of your listeners that, you know, Barack Obama, you know, has some strong influence within this administration. | ||
| But I think a lot of it is coming from, you know, his staffers. | ||
| And that's not who the American people elected. | ||
| And so it is very problematic. | ||
| There are massive issues here, because we do, by the way, we're in a proxy war with Russia right now. | ||
| We're at a time where Biden himself was invoking, Ben mentioned this a little bit, Biden himself was invoking NATO Article 5 again, again and again. | ||
| We've got the summit going on. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, Congressman Eli Crane. | ||
| Stay tuned. | ||
| Quick break here, Warren returns. | ||
| I All right, Jack Posobiec here, Washington, D.C. | ||
| By the way, I want to thank Steve Bannon and the entire team over at Skyhorse today. | ||
| I know you guys have been hearing me jawboning about this book for a long time now, Unhumans, Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them. | ||
| Today is officially pub day. | ||
| It is launch day, publication day. | ||
| The book is out. | ||
| Amazon's been playing some games with us, but the team over at Skyhorse and Steve himself, who really worked to put this book together, With me, with Joshua Lysak, wrote the foreword to it. | ||
| We spent so much work going through specifically what these people do when they take power and then more importantly the final chapter. | ||
| A lot of people are skipping right to the last chapter on this. | ||
| How we beat defeat them, how we understand their system, crack the codes, get into their OODA loops, get into their battle space, their headspace, their operational cycle, and disrupt it and dismantle their operations from within. | ||
| And the Biden campaign, by the way, has been going after me all weekend for this book because, and it comes down to this, folks. | ||
| We as conservatives spend so much time focused on our principles, whereas the left spends all their time focused on power. | ||
| And no, Biden HQ, I'm not going to apologize for saying what I'm about to say next, and I'm going to say it again. | ||
| The right needs to focus on taking power. | ||
| Once the right understands that you get the levers of power through voting and legal means and constitutional means, they're always trying to ascribe all these words to me that I didn't say. | ||
| But understand, once you have the institutional power, Then you have the ability to put your principles into action. | ||
| That is the point. | ||
| The left has no principles. | ||
| They only focus on power, whereas the right is addicted to rules. | ||
| I want to go back though to Congressman Crane because it seems though that the left has | ||
| is is denying all of their rules because they're the ones who've completely disrupted the chain | ||
| of command. | ||
| We don't know how far back this thing goes. | ||
| We don't know who's actually in charge. | ||
| And we when we can see the disasters on the world stage, we can see the disasters at our | ||
| southern border. | ||
| You're from Arizona border state. | ||
| We see the carnage going down there. | ||
| It feels to me like the cabinet has been running things all along. | ||
| And President Trump probably knowingly brought this up at the debate when he said, why haven't | ||
| you fired anyone? | ||
| And it's simple. | ||
| He can't fire anyone because they're the ones who are in charge, not him. | ||
| What say you? | ||
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What are your thoughts? | |
| No, I agree, Jack. | ||
| And many of us have been making the argument for the long the longest time. | ||
| This is exactly why Joe Biden is the perfect candidate for them. | ||
| He's the perfect fall guy. | ||
| They can, you know, they can make him their little puppet. | ||
| They can invoke all their radical, socialistic, totalitarian policies. | ||
| And then when we, the American people, start to feel the carnage and the fallout and the pain from those horrible policies, that have been destructive historically all over the world, they can blame the doddering old man that doesn't know where he is. | ||
| And so I think you're right when you say that's why they had no issues running a guy who didn't know where he was, had to campaign out of his basement. | ||
| Because you're right, Jack, for them it's all about power. | ||
| They don't care about the optics of having an old man as the figurehead of their party. | ||
| They just, they want somebody that they can blame it on when we start to feel the pain, pain of it. | ||
| And it's, it's actually, it's actually sad, but it's very, very smart because when all they care about is power. | ||
| And that's precisely what I'm talking about. | ||
| All they care about is power. | ||
| They will put the doddering old man, they will put the puppet, the marionette up there. | ||
| And the question is, I think if President Trump should respond, he should say, all right, if you want me to do another debate, I will, but maybe I should debate Jill Biden. | ||
| Maybe I should debate Hunter Biden because I want to actually be talking to the people who are making the decisions, not the marionette with the puppet strings. | ||
| I want to talk to the guy who's actually, or gal, who's up there. | ||
| Maybe it's Jersey Jill, I'm not sure. | ||
| Congressman, let me ask you this, shifting gears for a second here. | ||
| Would you support, now people don't realize this as much, but in the 25th Amendment there is a role for Congress. | ||
| Would you support And people have talked about this. | ||
| I know there's some discussion in Congress on the House side, and a lot of people are asking, will the House GOP get involved? | ||
| Have you heard about this? | ||
| Would that be something that you support, resolutions towards the 25th Amendment or any traction on that, as it were? | ||
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Yes, Jack, I would. | |
| And I know Chip Roy and others have been working on it. | ||
| Honestly, I don't know how far along it is, but I absolutely would. | ||
| I mean, like I said, we have so many threats out there right now, and when you look at You know, if there was a nuclear war to kick off because we're fighting proxy war with the globe's largest nuclear superpower and Joe Biden had seven minutes to make a decision on whether or not we were gonna, you know, counter launch nuclear weapons. | ||
| I don't think anybody that's watched this guy for five seconds believes that he could make a coherent decision. | ||
| And so, yeah, it is something that, you know, many of us are concerned about. | ||
| It is something that many of us would support as well. | ||
| But I do want to say one thing, Jack. | ||
| I'm glad that you led off the show this morning with some prayer. | ||
| I think that's one of the biggest things that we can do. | ||
| And you know, I believe that so much of what we're seeing right now has spiritual foundations to it. | ||
| So appreciate that. | ||
| And the last thing I want to say before I go to my committee hearing is I listened to the cold open and you had Applebaum on here talking about really dangerous right wing populism. | ||
| Let's be really clear. | ||
| This right-wing populism, Jack, as you know, is not dangerous to the people. | ||
| It's dangerous to the swamp, the Uniparty, and these global totalitarians that want to strip all power from us. | ||
| It's not dangerous to the people at all. | ||
| It's actually very good for the people. | ||
| Amen, Congressman. | ||
| Thank you for your time today. | ||
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Thank you, brother. | |
| Look, Congressman Crane is exactly right there, Navy SEAL. | ||
| He's telling you straight up, is right-wing populism dangerous? | ||
| Of course it's dangerous. | ||
| But when they say, our democracy, you always must replace the phrase, just in your mind, this is the way you understand them, this is the way you read The Washington Post, or the Atlantic, or when you watch MSNBC, and Steve always tells us, watch MSNBC because that's where their brain trust is. | ||
| The three or four guys that they have, and sometimes gals like Ann Applebaum, they have running things, these crooked thugs up there. | ||
| That's where they tell you what they're going to do next. | ||
| And so when they say our democracy, always replace it with our regime. | ||
| This is a threat to our democracy. | ||
| This is a threat to the regime. | ||
| This is dangerous for our democracy. | ||
| This is dangerous for our regime. | ||
| So when they tell you that, they're telling you what they're scared of. | ||
| They're telling you what you're doing that is effective. | ||
| So don't be scared when they call you dangerous. | ||
| Understand that what they're doing is telling you that you're being affected. | ||
| I want to get Ben Harnwell back in here, because Ben, you were keying off on those statements as well, that Ann Applebaum is trying to sound like she's confident, like she's in the driver's seat. | ||
| But she knows the dirty little secret, and you walked through the numbers just there. | ||
| What we are witnessing is a global populist movement. | ||
| We're witnessing a response to the regime. | ||
| We're witnessing a response to this idea that we can have a global Atlanticist government of the collective West that's going to be all things to all people. | ||
| And that's what the NATO conference right down the street here is all about. | ||
| They think that they can control the world through military power, and that's what they've been trying to do for 75 years. | ||
| Jake, you're absolutely right. | ||
| When I was sitting in the seat you are now, yesterday, I was talking to Rahim Ben-Berkran from Life on Paris, and we went over the figures from the French election results. | ||
| And both Marine Le Pen in the first round, her party, and Keir Starmer, the new British Prime Minister, they both came out with 33 percent. | ||
| Her vote, Marine's The vote in the second round, which was on this past Sunday, went up to 37%. | ||
| You're not going to hear Anne Applebaum, who's the Queen of the Neocons, waxing lyrical about her resonance with the French people. | ||
| She got a far larger proportion of the vote than what Keir Starmer did in the UK. | ||
| The reason why she's waxing lyrical about Keir Starmer She's saying what a great job they did to win the election and to learn from them. | ||
| She's co-opting Keir Starmer. | ||
| Obviously the British first past the post system did a lot of benefits, advantages to the British Labour Party, but she's co-opting his victory in accordance to her own neocon agenda, right? | ||
| Well the last thing, you're absolutely right, the last thing these people want is people waking up to see the grift The institutional grift that is the neocon ideology to see that for what it is and to take their own agency in their hands and demand a change. | ||
| That's the last thing these people want, which is why they're out now in force pushing out sort of the propaganda. | ||
| But of course, you know, With each passing month, less and less people are paying attention. | ||
| You know, I don't know who reads The Atlantic anymore. | ||
| I do, every day, because, you know, for the same reasons that you're paying attention to MSNBC, because we see what the other side are doing. | ||
| But their resonance with people is diminishing. | ||
| If you compare, for example, the poll of The Atlantic and all of the neocons put together, it's probably a tenth of what Mago is. | ||
| This is where the agenda is right now, and these people are desperate, which is why you hear this absolutely absurd sort of narrative coming from these people, suggesting, giving identification of the key points as to how the Labour Party won the British election. | ||
| Anyone who knows the slightest details about this knows that the Labour Party did not win that election. | ||
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The Tory party lost it, and they lost it because they betrayed Folks, understand what time it is. | |
| 118 days. | ||
| Got it written right here and I'm going to write it every single day. | ||
| 118 days. | ||
| 117 days. | ||
| All the way down. | ||
| What are you doing to win? | ||
| And this is the key point that I want to get back to when we talk about these elections as well. | ||
| We got a break coming up here in a minute. | ||
| Folks, Do you think that the right has this in the bag for Donald Trump? | ||
| Do you think that just because Biden collapsed that all of a sudden, oh, all of our prayers are answered and he's just going to walk off the stage and the RNC is going to happen and Donald Trump's going to declare his VP? | ||
| It doesn't matter who the VP is. | ||
| What matters is what this oligarchy and regime will do in the final stages of the election. | ||
| You've seen them make deals with the devil in France. | ||
| You've seen them go and vote to put labor in. | ||
| The uniparty establishment of the globalists. | ||
| We'll make sure that whatever they need will be done come election time. | ||
| The ballots will be tried to be found. | ||
| Look, I'm from the Philadelphia area. | ||
| We know about finding ballots down there. | ||
| You must become steely-eyed and laser-focused on action, action, action. | ||
| Are you getting involved in swing states? | ||
| Are you volunteering? | ||
| Who have you reached out to? | ||
| What are you doing with those 118 days? | ||
| Quick break, right back. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. | |
| Back here in the warm, breaking news, Alec Baldwin has finally arrived in court for the start of the Rust manslaughter trial. | ||
| Alec Baldwin on trial there, stayed in New Mexico for the shooting death of his director of photography, cinematographer there, Ukrainian woman by the way, the gun That he claims pulled the trigger all by itself, even though all ballistics checks and anyone who's, you know, actually operated a firearm in the real world knows that that doesn't work. | ||
| No, Alec Baldwin, a gun didn't kill her. | ||
| You did. | ||
| So we're going to be, we're going to be monitoring that clearly. | ||
| By the way, I've said for a long time, Trump should return to X to live tweet the trial of Alec Baldwin. | ||
| Just saying, just saying, I think that would be perfect. | ||
| We've got Congressman Andy Biggs here joining us from the Oversight Committee. | ||
| Congressman Biggs, how are you this morning? | ||
| Great, Jack. | ||
| Good to see you. | ||
| Good to be with you. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And so we're doing our best to keep the ship here afloat while our commander is away on assignment. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| We miss Steve. | ||
| I send love to him. | ||
| And we've got to do more to right this ship. | ||
| This is absolutely horrific. | ||
| And one of the ways you do it, there's two ways that come to mind. | ||
| You deliver the same kind of pain to the other side, and that's what I wish my colleagues would do. | ||
| Thank goodness for Ana Paulina Luna, but we can't even get a majority vote. | ||
| To actually hold Merrick Garland and bring him in with Sergeant-at-Arms holds him in custody until he gives us the audio of that special counsel interview with Joe Biden. | ||
| We'll probably end up with a $10,000 day, a $3 million a month fine, but they're going to immediately throw a spoke into the wheel on that. | ||
| And that's the problem. | ||
| We need to even it up because when you do that, This type of thing where they go after people like Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro, and others, it drives up because they experience the same pain and they don't want to experience that pain. | ||
| Well, let's drill down on that a little bit. | ||
| So, my understanding, and I saw a piece yesterday where Congresswoman Luna said that she would be introducing the inherent contempt resolution tomorrow. | ||
| Is that your understanding? | ||
| And if so, do you believe that you've got the votes on this thing? | ||
| And if not, what's being done process-wise to achieve it? | ||
| So my understanding is we are voting tomorrow. | ||
| It's going to be a privileged resolution and we're going to vote on it at the voting session tomorrow. | ||
| Anna told me that she believes that they have the votes if you go to a $10,000 day of fine, but we didn't have the votes on the incarceration with the holding of Merrick Garland by the Sergeant of Arms until they produced and cured the contempt. | ||
| So Anna, you know, she's doing it and she's pushing it and those of us around her pushing it, trying to make sure everybody comes on. | ||
| The question at that point is, once the authority is there, will the Speaker go ahead and begin imposing that upon Merrick Garland? | ||
| And that's the next step. | ||
| Look, Congressman, this is what—and before Steve went away, that's exactly what he was talking about. | ||
| It's not—it's not retribution. | ||
| It's not the politics of grievance. | ||
| It's called due justice, that you have to respond in the way that you are treated, or else you will just get more of the same. | ||
| That's the way you return to zero. | ||
| That's the way you achieve reciprocity. | ||
| That's a little something that we used to call deterrence. | ||
| I talk about that in the new book all the time. | ||
| That if you don't practice the politics of deterrence, then you will get a completely lopsided outcome, like what we've seen right now, where we've got the President of the United States, our candidate, by the way, who has been convicted, potentially, of course, would potentially be thrown out because of this immunity order, and they've got an excellent fruit-of-the-poison tree argument on that, but again, Stephen K. Bannon behind bars. | ||
| Peter Navarro behind bars. | ||
| Political prisoners. | ||
| They're looking to find as many other members of MAGA or the Trump White House as they can possibly do to put behind bars. | ||
| And meanwhile we sit back and we can't even get the votes to respond on something like this. | ||
| That's the only way that you can achieve deterrence. | ||
| It's not sitting down there and saying, oh, let's listen to our influencer of the week | ||
| who comes in to the weaponization committee and is giving a good talk, | ||
| and we're all feeling good about each other. | ||
| Yeah, that's great. | ||
| We're feeling good about each other when our friends are being hauled off to the gulags, | ||
| and we're thinking that, oh, well, because we kept our nose clean, | ||
| Yeah, go read Solzhenitsyn or go read this book right here on humans and understand that they will always come for you eventually. | ||
| Congressman, what is it in Congress there about some of the Republican caucus that they don't seem to be able to see this? | ||
| You know, I wish I could explain that. | ||
| I can't explain it. | ||
| I mean, I'm with you. | ||
| I say the pendulum has gone so far to the left and authoritarianism that you have to give them a dose of that back in order to get to equilibrium again, which is the rule of law applied by blind Lady Justice. | ||
| That's equilibrium in this country. | ||
| But we're not there and we're not going to get there if we all go stand over underneath the shadow of the sword of the left wing. | ||
| And that's what's going on. | ||
| And a lot of my colleagues, I don't understand it, but they will talk tough, America first, | ||
| but they don't want to act. | ||
| And this is, you know, maybe that's the way they have to act | ||
| in their respective districts, I guess. | ||
| But for me, the bottom line is you tell people what you're going to do, you do it. | ||
| And we need to actually turn this country around. | ||
| And you don't turn it around, quite frankly, always turning the other cheek. | ||
| I mean, here's the bottom line. | ||
| George Mason said this and he was right on this. | ||
| He said, uh, as, as nations, uh, do not get judged as a nation on, uh, when you get to the other side in the next life, they get judged here. | ||
| And in other words, you have to take care of business here, rule of law, make sure that your country is just and a good country. | ||
| And right now we're not because the left is authoritarian and punishing people simply because they have a political opinion. | ||
| It's dissenting. | ||
| I always get into theological debates about Turn the Other Cheek because some people read Turn the Other Cheek and they hear that as lay over and surrender and put your head in the sand, whereas when you look at the actual line in context, Turn the Other Cheek means stand your ground. | ||
| It means that they hit you on one side, you give them the other side, but you don't back down. | ||
| You stand your ground and you don't give up. | ||
| And so, Carson, I want to ask you about another line of action, seeing as you're... Oh, please, Rashad. | ||
| Please, go ahead. | ||
| Yeah, I was just saying, you know, Jesus cleansed the temple, man. | ||
| He just didn't stand there and let them run over it. | ||
| He went in and cleansed the temple. | ||
| And that's what we have to do. | ||
| Cleanse the temple. | ||
| Cleanse the temple, throw out the money changers, table's over, that's what I'm looking at. | ||
| Temple's for the temple, temple's for worship. | ||
| So when it comes down to this, let's talk about one temple in the city right now, in Washington DC, that we have no idea what's going on inside, and that's the White House. | ||
| Is there an appetite on the oversight committee for investigations into who exactly is running the chain of command in our national security apparatus. | ||
| Because I keep reading these stories from the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal | ||
| and the New York Times that tell me that it's Hunter Biden and Jill Biden that are running | ||
| things or Kamala Harris has, you know, getting her two cents in here and there. | ||
| Who's actually giving the orders, Congressman? | ||
| And if so, if it is the family members of these top aides, are those even legal orders? | ||
| If the commander in chief wasn't the one who actually ordered the withdrawal of Afghanistan, | ||
| the withdrawal of Kabul, we're being told that he couldn't even hold meetings with Olaf | ||
| Schultz back in 2022 because he was too jet lagged to hold an evening meeting. | ||
| Congressman, this is not just a political situation like they want to have a conversation about. | ||
| This is a national security crisis. | ||
| Exactly right. | ||
| We don't know who's running it. | ||
| I've been saying for three years this is an oligarchy because Joe Biden is incapable and has been incapable of actually running the country. | ||
| It's being run ostensibly from my sources tell me that the cabinet members basically set up their own fiefdoms and they have to come to some kind of grips. | ||
| On how they're going to do it, but I think that's why you don't see any coherent policy come out of this administration. | ||
| It's all left wing. | ||
| It's all by senior level bureaucrats. | ||
| And then the scariest thing of all is and I saw Dr. Jill, which reminded me of the of the Woodrow Wilson, Edith Wilson situation. | ||
| It reminded me of, you know, and you get Hunter Biden and reminded me that you have a situation where the two people that are most influential in Joe Biden's life right now are Jill Biden and Hunter Biden, who both have Uh, their own motivation. | ||
| So your question ultimately is just is the oversight committee have that appetite to investigate this? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| We do. | ||
| I mean, Chairman Comer's all over wants to do that as well. | ||
| And every member that on our side of the aisle wants to investigate. | ||
| How are they making decisions? | ||
| How is their process? | ||
| We're getting stoned on that, as we always do, from the executive branch, which is why we should be subpoenaing and holding in contempt until they give us the information. | ||
| But the bottom line is this. | ||
| Our best way of controlling that wayward executive branch is always going to be the funding apparatus. | ||
| That's what the founders gave us. | ||
| That's in the Constitution. | ||
| And that's another area where I wish my colleagues would join in and join me in starting to defund wherever we can. | ||
| This administration, because they got to get to the information and they have to have policy that actually protects Americans and gets us back to that equilibrium point you and I were talking about. | ||
| Until you actually make them feel pain, and for them, it's money and power. | ||
| You have to take away some money and some power. | ||
| Until you do that, you don't ever get back to equilibrium. | ||
| Look, Congressman, what you're saying makes total sense to me, not only from a political perspective, but from a strategic perspective. | ||
| Look, we used to do this during the Cold War all the time. | ||
| We put some nukes over in Turkey. | ||
| They started doing this in Cuba. | ||
| We saw this recently where, you know, Biden comes out and glibly tells a reporter in Normandy and says, oh, we've authorized U.S. | ||
| missiles, these Atacams missiles, to be striking within mainland Russia. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, a couple of Russian nuclear subs pop up off the coast of Miami. | ||
| They're using reciprocity. | ||
| They're using this atomic diplomacy. | ||
| This is how you achieve mutually assured deterrence because you've mutually assured destruction. | ||
| Because you understand that when all diplomacy has failed, you have to go to hard power. | ||
| And the hard power of the House has always been the power of the purse. | ||
| Subpoenas are good. | ||
| Subpoenas are important. | ||
| Because I would like to see Mayorkas up there. | ||
| I would like to see Lloyd Austin up there. | ||
| Answer the question. | ||
| Who gave the order? | ||
| Oh, we got it from the White House. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Did you talk to Joe Biden? | ||
| Did you actually receive it from Joe Biden, or was it an aid? | ||
| Was it a letter? | ||
| Was it something that came out from him? | ||
| Because we have no idea what these people are now willing to do to cover up. | ||
| They said they won't even let the resident staff of the White House have conversations with Joe Biden. | ||
| That's how much they've done to hide this up. | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| He's the one that's vested by the Constitution. | ||
| Yeah, here's the deal. | ||
| powers of the executive, not the people around him. He has not delegated those powers to his | ||
| family members. They should not have sign off authority on any of these things. And it's no | ||
| wonder. It seems like it seems like our foreign policy and our economic policy are being controlled | ||
| by, as you say, Dr. Jill Biden, who's somebody that nobody voted for. Congressman, last minute | ||
| to you. Yeah, here's the deal. I want to know how often he's sitting in the in the Cabinet room with | ||
| his Cabinet officers getting reports and issuing directives and orders. | ||
| That's what a president does. | ||
| They study with the staff, they find out what's going on, and their cabinet members, he can trust them, but he has got to hear what decisions they're making and get the rationale, and then he makes, he gives the okie-dokie on that or not. | ||
| And we don't know what's happening there, but the, you know, the rumor mill is crazy in Washington, D.C., as you know, Jack. | ||
| But what I'm hearing is that they're not even really having regular cabinet meetings that are attended by | ||
| the president or even his vice president so that Tells you the vacuum that we have there and that's a | ||
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national security issue as much as everything else Congressman I've heard that as well that not only are they | |
| not having cabinet meetings But he barely has meetings with Lloyd Austin the Secretary | ||
| of Defense as well That Austin's over there running his own thing at the Pentagon, that Blinken is the one running things over at State, that they are not actually having regular discussions because they realize there's no reason for it. | ||
| Congressman, thanks so much for your time today. | ||
| Thanks, Jack. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Folks, who is running our government? | ||
| This is a national security crisis. | ||
| You got NATO that's coming in over there. | ||
| Zelensky potentially, and we'll go back to Harmel here in a minute, Zelensky potentially being told that he won't even be able to join NATO because of the corruption in Ukraine with escalation against the world's most powerful nuclear force on the table in 118 days left to victory. | ||
| Quick break. | ||
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| Ben Harnwell, who's just flown back overnight over to Rome, is with us. | ||
| Ben. | ||
| Zelensky's going to be told that NATO can't join, or that Ukraine can't join NATO, and yet at the same time, Biden brought up NATO five times in Article 5 at the debate. | ||
| Why did Biden keep bringing up Article 5 at the debate? | ||
| Here's my theory. | ||
| My theory is that he understands that, just as Kamala Harris said, by the way, Russia is a big country. | ||
| Ukraine is a small country. | ||
| Ukraine does not have an issue of materiel, which is, of course, what all the defense industrial complex wants. | ||
| No. | ||
| They have an issue of manpower, and they need more manpower from somewhere. | ||
| And, oh, look, Zelensky's going to the NATO summit. | ||
| And, of course, France and Macron were saying prior to the election, he started saying, oh, we'll put Ukraine in and we'll put our troops into Ukraine. | ||
| We'll go in there. | ||
| And then right before the election, just kidding, just kidding. | ||
| I'm not going to do that. | ||
| My contention is that Zelensky and NATO are going to push for a NATO force in Ukraine. | ||
| That's what the response will be after they say that Ukraine can't join because of corruption issues. | ||
| What do you say? | ||
| Well, look, I'm intrigued by your argument, and it makes a lot of sense that it makes a lot of sense that Joe Biden is going to try to escalate now in his remaining months. | ||
| I should say, Dr. | ||
| Dr. Jill Biden is going to escalate now in the remaining months of her regency presidency. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because that gives an opportunity to wheel the cadaver in chief out onto the stage and give him a few platitudes about global leadership and democracy. | ||
| And then everyone in the Democrat That argument is so cogent in fact, right? | ||
| So this is exactly, you know, fight the moral cause and get our vote on November 5th. | ||
| That argument is so cogent in fact, right? | ||
| It lies behind what I was trying to suggest a couple of months ago as to the reason why | ||
| Congress authorized the $61 billion that Zelensky's repeated begging, right? | ||
| Why did they do this? | ||
| Why did Congress give $61 billion to Zelensky? | ||
| And it was to keep the show, to keep the Biden show on the road. | ||
| This is this is the Uniparty coming in here to keep the show on the road, to stop Ukraine from collapsing before November. | ||
| And that was the only logical reason I could come up with. | ||
| And of course, your argument here, I think, is very much consonant with that. | ||
| With regards to the... Well, and Ben, just real quick on that. | ||
| And Ben, just real quick on that, it's not just that Zelina... | ||
| Olinsky needs it, but Biden needs it too, because he's going to be looking at it or | ||
| Dr. Jill's going to be looking at it as a way to underpin his quote unquote fitness | ||
| for office. | ||
| They'll show that he is strong and resolute and he's willing to take the fight directly | ||
| to Russia. | ||
| That's what they've been using all along. | ||
| And now they've got more of an impetus to do this. | ||
| It's all they've got. | ||
| They don't have any other merits after three and a half years to come up and suggest to the American people why Joe Biden deserves a second term. | ||
| They've got nothing apart from this. | ||
| If you buy into the narrative that this is fundamentally a war to defend democracy, our values, Western values in Ukraine, if you buy into that, then that's all the Democrats, that's all Biden has. | ||
| To ask for his re-election, because he has nothing else on any other metric. | ||
| I want to come back to this story about Ukraine being denied entrance because of corruption. | ||
| If I'd have got my act together, Jack, I'd have asked Denver to play the YouTube clip, which I seem to send it through to them every couple of weeks anyway, from Casablanca, when Captain Renault Louis Renault walks into Jack's casino and closes it down because he's shocked at this gambling going on there. | ||
| You're winning, sir. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Played by the legendary Claude Rains. | ||
| This is no surprise that there is corruption going on in Ukraine. | ||
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This was known long before this war. | |
| And it's not just that they just discovered that that would be an obstacle to Ukraine joining. | ||
| And of course, here's the danger. | ||
| It's not a corruption in Ukraine with regards to military expenditure. | ||
| It's not a prohibition to joining NATO, by the way. | ||
| Let's just put that on the shelf. | ||
| This is an argument that they've come out with. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because Joe Biden We were the only person to say this was a gaffe. | ||
| Biden didn't mean to say this, but he said he'd ruled out the NATO-ization of Ukraine. | ||
| And we were really, look, we weren't the only people to point this out, though very few | ||
| people did point out, but we were the only person to say this was a gaffe. | ||
| Biden didn't mean to say this, but he said he'd ruled out the NATO-ization of Ukraine. | ||
| Now, this was, Ukraine joining NATO was the causus belli, originally, of the cause of | ||
| the war that provoked Putin to go. | ||
| I mean, there were other reasons about denazification, but the fundamental reason was an objection to Ukraine joining NATO. | ||
| The fact that Biden has already said no to this, and of course we're now running up close | ||
| to the election, the presidential election, they need an excuse. | ||
| Now, this article that Denver just put up on the screen, read down halfway there, and | ||
| it says that America's actually holding the UK back now because the UK wants to move forward | ||
| and offer Ukraine more concrete membership. | ||
| Ben, let me hold you over because we're coming up against the end of the hour here, but this | ||
| We're going to hold over. | ||
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