July 3, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies. | |
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
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The people have had a belly full of it. | |
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| Wednesday 3rd of July, Anno Domini. | ||
| This is Ben Hornwell live from Rome here on Steve Bannon's War Room and it's a shame that the founder and host of this show can't be with us at the moment. | ||
| He is rotting in one of Joe Biden's federal prisons. | ||
| But something that Steve has long, long predicted is a right-wing, populist, nationalist revolution that's going to take place right across the world. | ||
| And we've been tracking this in real time as it has been doing so. | ||
| And we are on the eve of something spectacular taking place in my beloved We're going to go live now to Raheem Kassam and Ben Berkram, who are going to outline for us just what the developments are on the eve of this historic event that's going to be taking place on Independence Day tomorrow. | ||
| Raheem, good morning to you. | ||
| Good morning Ben, good morning America, and good afternoon from here in Clacton-on-Sea. | ||
| This is the parliamentary seat that Nigel Farage is fighting for, that the election will be held tomorrow for, and of course you can probably see quite a lot of fighting going on behind me here. | ||
| We are at the Seconds Out gym in the constituency where any moment The Reform Party leader, Nigel Farage, will be walking in with legendary British boxer Derek Chessora. | ||
| This will be one of the last campaign stops on the trail. | ||
| As you say, the election is indeed tomorrow, Ben. | ||
| So it's all to play for. | ||
| And if you've had a look at the reporting we've been doing up at the National Pulse over the last 24 hours, while everything is being thrown at Nigel Farage and the Reform Party right now, it does look They are cautiously optimistic about his election. | ||
| Rahim, I never thought in my life I would ever see you in a gym. | ||
| Seeing you give live broadcasts from a pub with a pint glass in hand, yes. | ||
| A gym, no. | ||
| Look, I'd like folks to go to TheNationalPulse.com You clearly don't follow my Instagram, Ben. | ||
| I'm not on Instagram. | ||
| I'm not really... That's a joke, right? | ||
| That is a joke. | ||
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Or do you actually do shots from the gym? | |
| Oh, I do a lot of gym shots on my Instagram. | ||
| You know, we gotta... I especially want the ladies of the audience knowing that. | ||
| Alright, okay. | ||
| I'm gonna have to check out your Instagram. | ||
| I'm not sure if I buy into this. | ||
| Yeah, I have to check this out because I'm not sure if I buy into it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Look, NationalPulse.com, you had a story up about the mail-in voting calamity in the UK. | ||
| What's going on there? | ||
| Do folks need to be alert for some kind of dodgy business taking place? | ||
| Yeah, look, Ben, I mean, you know, everywhere it happens, mail-in voting causes calamity, catastrophe, corruption and cheating. | ||
| And the United Kingdom is no different. | ||
| The mail-in vote system has been dominated by the Labour Party, who are known for their massive ballot harvesting mechanisms. | ||
| here and in addition to that just like you've seen in the United States | ||
| especially in the 2020 election you've had now issues with the | ||
| mail service, the postal service, the Royal Mail in the United Kingdom not | ||
| managing to get people's postal votes to them on time so there's a huge story about | ||
| that that's been breaking over the last 24 hours it's massively important | ||
| because there's so many older voters have chosen to vote by mail | ||
| now and have not actually received their ballots in time | ||
| So what they're now being told is that actually, you know, you're going to need to go to the polling station. | ||
| Sorry if you were planning to be on vacation. | ||
| Sorry if you didn't, you know, get your postal vote in the mail already. | ||
| You know, it's change of plans. | ||
| And for a first world supposedly country running an election, it's pretty embarrassing. | ||
| The general election in tomorrow isn't the only election imminently in Europe. | ||
| We've got the second round of the French elections on Sunday. | ||
| What's going on between the press, the mainstream media and the press seem to be hard in on an apparent expression of Nigel Farage, again referring to the National Pulse, you've done the breakdown on this, but that he's alleged to have said that Marine Le Pen will be a disaster. | ||
| Could you quickly just give a bit of background about that and draw the necessary conclusions for us? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely, Ben. | ||
| It's a really interesting and important point, because a small publication here in the United Kingdom did a brief interview with Nigel Farage in Birmingham just a few days ago, and instead of quoting him at length as to what he said, they literally just pulled the word disaster out of his interview and attributed that to comments about Marine Le Pen. | ||
| Now, obviously, I asked Nigel Farage what he meant by that. | ||
| He said no. | ||
| I said that some of the economic policies that she's expressed over the past decade or so would be a disaster for France if they got implemented. | ||
| However, he is very supportive of her party, is very supportive of their attitude towards the EU, very supportive of their attitude towards immigration, very supportive of their attitude towards populism, listening to the man on the street, and making sure that, you know, people like globalists like Emmanuel Macron are kept out of power and that's what's happening in France | ||
| right now. So much so that Macron is now turning to the far left to the communist | ||
| Marxists like Jean-Luc Mélenchon looking for a deal to take place in the second round of | ||
| voting. But no, I can say that we fact-checked the fake news reports from the unheard website, | ||
| the Telegraph and the Express and Nigel Farage is nothing but supportive of Marine Le Pen's | ||
| Assemblée Monnache. | ||
| Now, this is what they do, Ben. | ||
| They try to drive the wedge, they publish fake news, they're trying to cause, you know, an upset for the populist right, both here in the United Kingdom and obviously in France too. | ||
| I suspect at this point it might be just a little too late for their games. | ||
| How's the one argument that the Tories are trying to use, that a vote for Reform UK is basically an extra vote for Labour? | ||
| That's their one argument that has apparently some small degree of resonance. | ||
| In your experience out there in the UK right now, talking to people, is that actually going to have, because the Tories have no record to stand on, They're pretending to be in opposition, they're campaigning like an opposition, saying what they would do if they had another five years, which is always a worrying sign that the government has provided nothing but failure. | ||
| But this argument, this scare tactic, what kind of resonance in reality are you detecting around that? | ||
| Well look, unfortunately they have hit upon two things, and we saw this take place in 2015 as well, when the scare tactic at the time was, if you vote for Nigel Farage in the UK Independence Party, you may end up with the Scottish Nationalist Party in coalition government with Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party, or Ed Miliband's Labour Party. | ||
| At the time, it worked. | ||
| They managed to convince enough people, just enough people, to keep UKIP down, to keep Nigel Farage out of Parliament. | ||
| And they're deploying a sort of similar tactic here as well. | ||
| The difference this time, Ben, is that everybody knows, everybody serious knows, that tomorrow night we'll find out that the Labour Party has won a stonking great huge majority in the House of Commons. | ||
| So it's allowing people a little bit more to be able to vote with their hearts rather than voting along tactical lines. | ||
| The other big scare tactic that they're using at the moment is that, you know, Nigel is somehow tied to Russia. | ||
| We've heard it all before with the Trump, with the Russiagate stuff. | ||
| They're now doing it here as well with the Reform Party. | ||
| And believe me, having seen enough of the Reform Party's offices here in Clacton in London, I could tell you if Putin is funding that, he's not doing a very good job of it. | ||
| It's a bare-bones operation. | ||
| The charge, the allegation that they are somehow in cahoots with any foreign government authority politician is an absolute nonsense. | ||
| But it didn't stop the former Prime Minister Boris Johnson going up yesterday in front of a party audience of so-called conservatives and making the allegation again. | ||
| He in fact called Nigel Farage a Kremlin crawler and said that the Putin-esters would be helping the Corbyn-esters in for the American audience that is the The far left, Jeremy Corbyn, who used to lead the Labour Party. | ||
| So, you know, there's more of this, like people have seen before, like you've seen in the United States. | ||
| And I think we're just moments away from seeing Nigel Farage here in the Seconds Out gym in Clacton-on-Sea. | ||
| Well, if there was one person I was never expecting to see in a gym being you, the second person I'd never expect really, you know, even if I went to Nigel Farage's Instagram and saw pictures of him working out in the gym, I'd say it was photoshopped. | ||
| So this is, well at least he's not bungee jumping, as I think Ed Davey over at the Liberal Democrats is doing. | ||
| I've never been in a gym. | ||
| I've never been in a gym in my life. | ||
| This is my daily exercise, and I make sure I keep my reps up when it comes to that, and I'm perfectly happy with that. | ||
| Whilst we've got you here, I saw that Richard Tice had made a statement yesterday talking about a complete realignment of the right. | ||
| What are you looking at when you're there and you're seeing these provisional estimations coming in? | ||
| What are you expecting to see take place in the House of Commons and in the broader political sphere generally after July the 4th tomorrow? | ||
| Yeah, well, just to sort of break it down for the American audience, you know, the Conservative Party is sort of governed to the centre-left. | ||
| A lot of wokery, a lot of high taxation, multiple lockdowns during COVID, you know, a lot of quantitative easing, money printing, so on and so forth. | ||
| And they sort of represent the rhino faction of the broader right in British politics. | ||
| They have now governed for 14 years. | ||
| They have You know, supported the Ukraine war. | ||
| Boris Johnson, as I mentioned, has actually been one of the critical lobbyists for war, an anti-peace lobbyist, as it were, when the accords were first written up in, I think, 2022. | ||
| He was the one that flew over there to Zelensky and said, please don't sign this. | ||
| You know, we need more war. | ||
| We need more defence spending. | ||
| And you're starting to see just a sort of general disaffection with the Conservative Party. | ||
| So, yes, a lot of votes will move over to Nigel Farage's Reform Party. | ||
| There is a lot of talk about kind of a reverse takeover of the Conservative Party through the Reform Party, but you can't forget at the same time, unfortunately, as Ben Birkwam and I discussed on a special that we've yet to air on this very subject from Clacton-on-Sea, the Labour Party will be a majority, and quite a huge majority as well, so things are probably likely to get far, far worse In terms of woke and left-wing policies plaguing Britain than before they get better. | ||
| Now, Nigel Farage has a long-term plan here. | ||
| He didn't expect to win in this election. | ||
| The Reform Party are predicted to win anywhere between 1 and 17 seats. | ||
| It's very hard to tell, given the fact that they're coming from a standing start, basically. | ||
| This party didn't even really truly exist at the last major general election. | ||
| And so he has a five-year plan to make sure that he is the official opposition in the House of Commons, make sure that he is making the loudest noise on behalf of ordinary Britons, ordinary members of the British public who have been let down and ignored for so long. | ||
| But it will take It will take a lot of work. | ||
| It will take a lot of money. | ||
| It will take a lot of time. | ||
| It will take a lot of resources. | ||
| And one of the things that the political establishment has figured out is actually, with so many candidates, 650 candidates for reform standing in this election, it's very easy to find one or two who have made some odd, awkward, rude, and even, you know, they would say racist comments over the past, you know, 10 years of their lives. | ||
| So all of those sorts of things have managed to, a little bit, I tried to chip away at what Nigel and Reforma are trying to build here. | ||
| I don't think it will really particularly get, that it is a roadblock that will get in their way for the foreseeable future. | ||
| This is sort of like the Trump train and the momentum seems to be growing and growing. | ||
| Now, we're going to go a little later on in the show to France and also to the Netherlands, which has just finally succeeded in putting its government together. | ||
| Now, obviously, one of the big themes, both in France and the Netherlands, is the immigration issue. | ||
| What sort of, how's that playing here in this particular election cycle? | ||
| Yeah, so a lot of people will say, and you've probably heard me say it as well, that immigration is the number one issue at this election. | ||
| I think if you were to break it down on an issues-by-issues basis, that is true. | ||
| But I think sort of the number one thing that I keep hearing from people is just sort of the endemic corruption, right? | ||
| Everything is broken. | ||
| Nothing works. | ||
| Our communities are downtrodden. | ||
| The money that's being spent is ending up in the pockets Of the hyper-wealthy globalist class, none of it is trickling down to the ordinary person. | ||
| Our voices are not heard. | ||
| Our kids are being indoctrinated. | ||
| It's the broader sort of disaffection I worry about with the British public, especially when we talk about days like tomorrow. | ||
| Especially when we talk about going out and voting. | ||
| There are so many people, I think, who may just sort of throw their hands up in the air and say, why bother? | ||
| Nothing ever changes. | ||
| And that is the big challenge. | ||
| for Nigel in his reform party is actually to say to people and I encourage people to look this up places like Jaywick uh j-a-y-w-i-c-k just they have been so left behind for so very long that it's even it's even sort of problematic to approach them and say no listen We are listening. | ||
| We're the party that's listening. | ||
| We want to change things. | ||
| And so for Nigel and reform, it's not just a standing start. | ||
| It's also an uphill battle. | ||
| A lot of the data that we're seeing out of their support at a local level are typically voters who either didn't vote in the last several general elections. | ||
| They may have voted in the Brexit referendum, you know, the largest democratic mandate that this country has ever seen. | ||
| But besides that, they don't really believe that politics can be changed at the ballot box. | ||
| Well, it's a very dangerous situation for a country to be in. | ||
| And I think that's probably one of the globalist, sociopathic overlords' great tactics is to try to instill this sense of apathy in the people by convincing them that all the changes they would like to see are impossible to achieve, impossible to effect, because they've wrapped everything in on a supranational level via judicial activism. | ||
| What's going on behind you right now, Raheem? | ||
| I can see photographers moving into place. | ||
| I was just about to say Ben, I think we're seeing the arrival of the man right now. | ||
| We're going to pivot to the front door with Nigel Farage walking into the gym here in Clacton-on-Sea. | ||
| This is the second out gym in Clacton-on-Sea. | ||
| This is the political constituency that Nigel Farage is fighting. | ||
| You see to his right Derek Chisora who is a legendary British boxer. | ||
| I think he's got perhaps one of the owners or managers of the gym with him on the left there. | ||
| But yeah, this is the Farage train rolling in here for one of the last big public events before polls open tomorrow. | ||
| We are just hours away now from polls opening in the United Kingdom. | ||
| We are just hours away from knowing the fate, not just of the governing Conservative Party, but of course of Nigel Farage and his Reform Party, Ben. | ||
| This is an interesting moment. | ||
| A deeply, deeply fascinating period of time to be broadcasting here out of England. | ||
| And of course, after this, we'll be heading straight over to Paris for Real America's Voice to bring you more coverage from Europe. | ||
| But there you have it. | ||
| Nigel Farage is here at the Seconds Out Gym. | ||
| He will address, by the way, a huge rally of activists and supporters on the Clacton Pier this afternoon and evening. | ||
| Well, you can certainly get a sense of the electricity in the atmosphere just by watching this over on the screen right now, Raheem. | ||
| his Farage and still a lot of fighting going on. Well you can certainly get a sense of | ||
| the electricity in the atmosphere just by watching this over on the screen right now | ||
| Rahim. Will Nigel be making a few words at some point in his visit here to the second | ||
| set out gym? Well I was hoping that he'd be dressed for it and go and spar a little bit | ||
| in the ring but I don't know if he'll be doing that in his suit and tie this morning or this | ||
| afternoon I should say here in the United Kingdom. | ||
| But, uh, I should expect he would, uh, I should expect, especially given how many reporters are present, I should expect he'll say a few words, uh, maybe, uh, maybe throw a few punches in the ring with Derek Chisora as well. | ||
| So we'll, we'll hang about here and we'll keep you abreast of that situation as to As to whether or not he addresses the crowd, but he will be making, as I say, a huge address out on the Clacton Pier this evening. | ||
| It is their Eve of Poll Rally, and for anybody who's ever had anything to do with British politics, that is indeed a major, major occasion. | ||
| So they'll be hoping for a turnout of hundreds and hundreds on the stage there this evening. | ||
| And right now, as you can see, Ben, if we can pivot over back there, I think he's signing autographs now and trying to trying to uh say you know he's grateful to the people here at the gym because they are supporters as well if you come with me here i'll show you that they've got up on the wall and they've got up on the wall here a reform uk sign and we'll just get you uh some more shots from the media scrum here also and there he is the leader of the uk reform party nigel farage always always a smile on his face i will say that about him ben | ||
| I like the visuals of this, the sort of pugilistic fighting aspect of Nigel Farage coming into a gym, where there's all the boxing practicing going on. | ||
| Because, you know, at the end of the day, that's actually really the spirit that you want to see in an elected official, right? | ||
| In your Member of Parliament. | ||
| You want to see someone With the coglioni who's going to come out there and fight for his values, fight for your values, and not just supinely cow-like conservatives hiding behind a few platitudes whilst doing nothing. | ||
| I think that's right. | ||
| And you can probably see as well in the shot that they've got Reform Party logos on their boxing gloves. | ||
| So they've come fully prepared for this. | ||
| And I think you're absolutely correct in why they're here on the eve of poll is to show the fighting spirit. | ||
| I believe indeed Nigel Farage once published a book called The Fighting Bull. | ||
| So this is probably the best spot that they could have been. | ||
| And as I say, they're supporters here. | ||
| You know, the people who are running the actual gym are big Reform fans. | ||
| We've seen Reform placards, posters, banners all over the constituency over the last couple of weeks. | ||
| So, as I say, I think it's time for some cautious optimism. | ||
| Maybe we can get a question in very quickly. | ||
| Nigel, how's the campaign going so far? | ||
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It's going very well. | |
| I mean, goodness me, I've been doing this one month exactly, so it's a very short campaign. | ||
| We're making a lot of noise and there's actually a debate now about issues. | ||
| Thank goodness. | ||
| All right, don't hit me. | ||
| He's got the gloves on. | ||
| You heard it there first from the horse's mouth. | ||
| Nigel Farage here at the Seconds Out gym, live for Real America's Voice. | ||
| Raheem, thanks so much to you. | ||
| Thanks for Ben Burcram as well, doing his silent role today, assisting you with this. | ||
| And thanks, by the way, for getting us a few words for the War Room. | ||
| Thanks, Ben. | ||
| Thanks, Raheem, for getting us a few words. | ||
| Thanks, Ben. | ||
| Cheers. | ||
| You're doing a great job, Ben. | ||
| Godspeed. | ||
| Thanks, Raheem. | ||
| Before you jump, where can folks stay up with all the great work that you're putting out? | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| Yeah, make sure you're following Ben Burquam on social media. | ||
| He's got a lot more video and stuff on his Twitter and his Instagram. | ||
| We're doing more coverage at thenationalpulse.com and of course at Raheem Kassam on all the social media platforms too. | ||
| We'll stay rolling here. | ||
| If you need to come back to us, we'll be here for you, Ben. | ||
| Bless you. | ||
| Thanks so much, Raheem. | ||
| God bless and catch up with you in the show later. | ||
| Great, well that was great to hear a few words from Nigel Farage, the man himself, and we'll find out within 24 hours time whether he's going to have the letters, the two letters MP after his name. | ||
| We are now going to France, as we just briefly mentioned. | ||
| We're going to talk to Jérôme Rivière, who has had a number of roles in his political career. | ||
| He's actually been, let's call it, say, the majority leader for the National Rally in the European Parliament. | ||
| He's also been the vice president, having left the rally, went over and joined the Reconquest movement headed by Eric Zemmour. | ||
| And I thought he'd be, having just completed a term in the European Parliament just a couple of days ago, I thought he'd be the perfect guy to sort of help navigate what's going on in France for us | ||
| right now. | ||
| As we saw as we hit on the show, I think Marine Le Pen's party, the National Rally, they got | ||
| about 30, 32, 33 percent last Sunday. | ||
| And the deadline was at 6 p.m. yesterday for candidates to, assuming they hit the 12.5 | ||
| percent threshold, I think it was, to go through to the second and final and decisive rally. | ||
| Round this Sunday. | ||
| And the big issue, Jerome, that I'd like to ask you is what's going on in the background? | ||
| Because there's there's the talk of coalitions between this new United left and the unbowed. | ||
| And then you've got Macron. | ||
| And they're also sort of panicking, saying, how can we drop out if we're in third place? | ||
| To give the party that was in second place a better chance in defeating the rally on Sunday. | ||
| Can you give us sort of an analysis? | ||
| And good morning, by the way. | ||
| Nice to see you again. | ||
| Can you give us some kind of analysis? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| What is the speculation following the 6pm deadline yesterday? | ||
| And what are the projections looking like for this Sunday? | ||
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Hi, Ben. | |
| It's good to be with you. | ||
| And it is a very exciting time in France, but all over Europe. | ||
| We just saw Nigel Farage. | ||
| I think that the ideas that we have been fighting for, which is a revival of nations, are going to be winning ideas, especially in France, but I hope for the same in the UK and here with President Donald Trump, having a great momentum. | ||
| So what's going on in France is that we are renewing the Congress. | ||
| After the European election, Macron, President Macron freaked out because he was badly defeated at the European election. | ||
| And he thought he has the power as president to kick the Congress out and recall election. | ||
| He did that, hoping that the French people would be scared of the national rally and would give him a clear majority. | ||
| What happened, in fact, is that the national rally came in first by a very large margin. | ||
| And at the same time, the French people were voting in mass. | ||
| We have reached 67% of people voting last Sunday, which is 20% more compared to the previous legislative election. | ||
| So it is a huge turnout, meaning that the French people are very excited by this election. | ||
| The issue with our system is the fact that As you mentioned, any candidate that reaches 12.5% of the electoral corp can remain for the second round. | ||
| Our elections are two rounds. | ||
| The first round, anybody can run. | ||
| The second round, you need to have reached 12.5% of the electoral corp in your district. | ||
| So there were around 310 places, districts, in which three candidates, sometimes four candidates, were able to run. | ||
| But in most of them, the national rally is ahead. | ||
| So as you said, some people were freaking out. | ||
| And they are trying to revive some kind of front, common front. | ||
| But this is really a disgusting gesture, because right now people that were with Macron, that are running as candidates for backing Macron's policy, are making alliances with extremist anti-Semitic candidates that have been pledging to do | ||
| terrible things to France if they get elected. | ||
| So what we are seeing is a move by the people that feel that the national rally is going | ||
| to win to make a coalition that makes no sense. | ||
| They have no common policies. | ||
| They have no common views on what France's future is going to be. | ||
| But 210 candidates out of the 310 backed out, which gives a better fighting chances for Macron's candidates, and in some cases for the extreme left candidates. | ||
| But I believe that this is definitely not going to be sufficient to make the electors forget what Macron's policies were. | ||
| And I expect we're going to have a large turnout. | ||
| And I expect that the National Rally and its allies, one has to say that the French Republican Party led by Eric Ciotti, who is a congressman from Nice, decided to join forces with National Rally. | ||
| This is a This is the very first time in the history of French politics that another major party aligned itself with National Rally. | ||
| I think that together they will have the majority of members in Congress on this Sunday. | ||
| So let's just confirm that. | ||
| Your speculation is then after how many candidates, by the way, did drop out yesterday? | ||
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210. | |
| 210 candidates? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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There were 310 districts where you had three candidates, and so two-thirds basically backed out. | |
| All of the extreme left candidates, they had received very strong instruction from their party to back out. | ||
| So all the people from these parties, when they were in third position, backed out. | ||
| On the other hand, for the people that were backing out Macron, some of them refused to do so. | ||
| And I think it makes quite some sense, because two weeks ago Macron was explaining how Mélenchon, who is the leader of the extreme left, Was represented everything that we French people stand against is anti-Semitic. | ||
| He doesn't believe in in any control of any type of immigration. | ||
| He wants massive immigration in France. | ||
| And he promised a huge increase of taxes as soon as he gets in power. | ||
| So Macron aligning himself with him makes no sense at all. | ||
| And I think that the French people are looking through the moves that are made by the party and are not going to give the votes, neither to the extreme left, not to Macron. | ||
| So the national rally will, and it's a lie, the Republican Party, will end up first on Sunday. | ||
| Well, we've just got about a minute left before we head over to the break, but I just want to just confirm something that you said. | ||
| Your speculation is then that between the rally and Les Republicains, there will be an absolute majority over 289 seats. | ||
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That's what I believe, and this is what I truly hope. | |
| Otherwise, France will be in a very tough position. | ||
| We won't be able to beat it anyway. | ||
| Okay, we're here with the Drew Riviere. | ||
| Thanks very much. | ||
| Hold on till after the break and then we'll come straight back. | ||
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Thanks very much. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K Band. | ||
| Welcome back, folks. | ||
| If you just joined us after the break, I'm here with Jérôme Rivière, who's just completed a term in the European Parliament just a couple of days ago, and he's navigating through to us what we might be expecting on Sunday. | ||
| Now, am I wrong, Jérôme? | ||
| Am I wrong? | ||
| This would be a fundamental transformation, wouldn't it? | ||
| Not only for France, but for the European Union as well. | ||
| France and Germany are often called the motor of the European Union. | ||
| If France It leaves the globalist clutches of Emmanuel Macron and decisively comes over to the national rally. | ||
| That has implications beyond France itself. | ||
| It has, and via the European Union, basically for the world itself, this is a very important thing. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| That will fundamentally define, I think, the trajectory of political discourse for the next generation or so. | ||
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I agree with you, Ben. | |
| It is very important. | ||
| But it goes with a momentum that began a while ago in other countries, such as Hungary, where Viktor Orban is leading his country toward non-globalist policies. | ||
| It's the same thing with Italy and Giorgia Meloni. | ||
| So I think the fact that France is going to be led by a And then a majority will change the shape of the European Union. | ||
| It will have to take into account the desire of the people. | ||
| It is something that has been ignored for so many years. | ||
| We have to understand that in France, we usually have referendum, which is asking the people what they believe about specific subjects. | ||
| The last one was held in 2005. | ||
| And this referendum was about a European constitution. | ||
| Basically, the European Union wanted to give itself a constitution to become some kind of United State of Europe. | ||
| The French people and other like the Netherlands people refused it. | ||
| They backed out. | ||
| And it was a clear no during this referendum. | ||
| The thing is, a couple of years later, President Sarkozy made some kind of deal and through Congress imposed some | ||
| kind of constitution, a smaller kind, but imposed it against the will of the people. | ||
| And since 2005, the French people have never been consulted on anything. | ||
| I believe that the turnout that we have seen last Sunday shows that they want to be heard | ||
| and they want to express themselves. | ||
| The globalist position that Macron and before him Hollande and Sarkozy led them to, they don't want this anymore. | ||
| And they are fed up. | ||
| It led to poverty. | ||
| It led to insecurity. | ||
| It led to massive immigration. | ||
| And massive immigration is massive insecurity in France. | ||
| So this is going to change indeed the way Europe is going to go towards the future. | ||
| And I'm very excited about it. | ||
| Now, let me read to you a quote, if I may, Jeroen, from Marine Le Pen. | ||
| She said, there's a push, I think she said this just recently, there's a push for Islamist fundamentalism in France, which is helped by the political class, the present political class. | ||
| It's a major danger for our freedoms. | ||
| I find the veiling of little girls appalling. | ||
| It puts us all on the verge of nausea. | ||
| Now, I think the anti-immigration position of the National Rally is its signature policy, which obviously I know you share 100 percent. | ||
| You perhaps, if I may frame it like this, but you go, you personally go slightly beyond the immigration. | ||
| Issue itself. | ||
| And you're more sort of in addition to the immigration issue, you're very much interested in the wider influence and aspects regarding the battle for civilization, right? | ||
| The battle for Western civilization. | ||
| Now I know you know obviously very well Marine Le Pen, you know Jordan Badella, the presumed, hopefully, new Prime Minister, incoming Prime Minister. | ||
| Knowing these people as well as you do, what, and given your background and your passion for defending This idea of Christendom, the eldest daughter of the church, traditionally France, right? | ||
| Knowing these people as you do, what sort of things can we expect to see in a new National Rally government? | ||
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I think that the very first thing you will see is the fact that the French laws will be put into action. | |
| In France, for example, we have had recently a lot of people stabbed, killed by immigrants that were illegally in France. | ||
| So I think that the first move of a Jordan-Bardella-led government would be to make sure that every decision by a court to kick out an illegal immigrant will be put into effect. | ||
| Right now, you have less than 1% of those court decisions that are put into motion. | ||
| I think that you will see 100% of those court decisions put into motion. | ||
| Then there will be a discussion with all the countries where immigrants are coming from to decide how they can have the illegal immigrants brought back to them. | ||
| Right now, they do refuse, but we have a lot of tools that can be used. | ||
| For example, in a lot of those countries, the French government is giving money for development. | ||
| So we are going to tell them, Jordan Bardela will tell them, look, if you don't take your illegal immigrants back, | ||
| we are not going to give you development money. | ||
| And I believe this is what President Trump did with a couple of countries when he was a sitting president. | ||
| I think what you are going to see is a policy that will be serious about regulating immigration. | ||
| And regarding the very important subject of civilization, I think that we will implement the laws in France | ||
| that say that France is a lay country. | ||
| It is quite different from the United States, but one has to understand, especially when you are here, | ||
| the immigration that you face in the United States is very different from the immigration we face in Europe | ||
| and especially in France. | ||
| People that are coming are coming with a very aggressive vision of Islam, and a lot of them are saying that they want France to change, and they want to make France an Islamic country. | ||
| We do not want that. | ||
| The French people do not want that. | ||
| So this is going to be something important to say. | ||
| France is a lay country. | ||
| You can practice any religion you want, but you cannot impose your religion on others. | ||
| Well, Jérôme, from your lips to God's ear, I think this would be an important transformation to see in France and then that will have obviously an impact on the rest of the wider European Union and the rest of the world as well. | ||
| Listen, I'll ask you now if you can come back on the show next week after we have had the results out from the second round and help break Those are sort of down for us. | ||
| In the meantime, Jérôme, where can people continue to stay in touch with your thoughts and your analysis on social media as these events unfold? | ||
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Thank you. | |
| I'll definitely be happy to come next week, but you can follow me on my Twitter handle. | ||
| It's Jérôme, J-E-R-O-M-E, underscore, J-E-R-O-M-E, underscore, J-E-R-O-M-E, underscore, J-E-R-O-M-E, underscore, J-E-R-O-M-E, underscore, J-E-R-O-M-E, underscore, J-E-R-O-M-E, underscore, J-E-R-O-M-E, underscore, J-E-R-O-M-E, underscore, J-E-R-O-M-E, underscore, J-E-R-O-M-E, underscore, J Jerome, wonderful, wonderful to catch up with you. | ||
| Thanks so much for coming on the show, and we'll catch up with you next week. | ||
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Thank you for having me, Ben. | |
| Bye. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Bye-bye. | ||
| Well, now, so this is interesting, because we haven't planned it like this, but it is interesting how the various thieves here Lead from one to the other. | ||
| We've just started off with Raheem in the UK talking about immigration on the agenda. | ||
| Same issue as it always is right across the world right now as this revolution continues. | ||
| Same issue, therefore, also in France. | ||
| And as I was mentioning, Jerome does have a very strong interest, not only in the wider immigration issue, but specifically the impact on Western civilization in and of itself. | ||
| Now, what better way to cap up those two segments that we've just done and go done to go to Oklahoma Which has just mandated, and I think that the word here, inverted commas, is immediately teaching the Bible in schools, I think, between the ages of 12 and 18. | ||
| To break down this is the guy we've got on the show today, the guy responsible for this, Superintendent of Oklahoma, Ryan Walter. | ||
| as superintendent. Good morning to you. | ||
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Folks, I don't have. | |
| Thank you very much for having me on here. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Could you could you break down, please, for the War Impostor, what exactly has happened in Oklahoma? | ||
| Because it seems to me to be very obviously very much to be to be welcomed and embraced. | ||
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It seems to be a slightly similar development. | |
| As to what happened in Louisiana with the Ten Commandments in schools. | ||
| There's something going on now, I think, state by state in the United States. | ||
| Could you break down and explain exactly what has happened in Oklahoma and why you pushed this? | ||
| I think it was pretty much part of your mandate, wasn't it, in fighting wokeism in schools when you elected in 2022? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| You know, when you look at an issue like this, what you've seen in our schools is a radical left. | ||
| The teachers union have come in and they pushed indoctrinating of our kids. | ||
| They've told kids to hate America. | ||
| They have lied about American history. | ||
| And one of the things that they've done is they've taken the Bible out of schools. | ||
| They say, listen, you can't talk about our rights coming from God. | ||
| You can't talk about what Abraham Lincoln talked about in so many of his speeches. | ||
| You can't talk about, you know, even Martin Luther King Jr. | ||
| talking about the civil rights movement. | ||
| You know, he used biblical references throughout his speeches, | ||
| throughout his letter from a Birmingham jail to justify the civil rights movement. | ||
| But the left doesn't want our kids to know about our traditions. | ||
| They don't want our kids to know about our history. | ||
| And that's where you've seen our republic completely go off the rails here. | ||
| I mean, you see what's happening to President Trump right now, where they're arresting him. | ||
| They're giving this banana republic nonsense in a courtroom. | ||
| Look what they're doing to Steve Bannon right now. | ||
| Well, what you've seen is they have lied to our kids. | ||
| They won't talk about our history. | ||
| They won't talk about our traditions. | ||
| And the reality is, is this is a historical argument. | ||
| Quit lying to kids. | ||
| The reality is, is the founders cited the Bible. | ||
| Our presidents quoted the Bible extensively. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| We're going to make sure that our kids understand that part of our history. | ||
| We want our kids to know our traditions. | ||
| We want our kids to understand American history. | ||
| And so the Bible is absolutely a part of it. | ||
| So we're very proud to be the first state in the country to put the Bible back in the classroom. | ||
| Are you in touch with other states? | ||
| Have other states reached out to you in the last day or two asking for more details over what you've done and the strategy, the successful strategy you have employed to implement this so that they can do the same thing in their own states? | ||
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Yes, sir. | |
| We've been in contact with many states across the country. | ||
| I think, you know, we're leading the charge, but you're going to see several states follow up. | ||
| And reality is every state should do this. | ||
| You know, I've been talking a lot. | ||
| You know, you've heard President Trump talk about make America great again. | ||
| President Trump in his first term towards the end, he launched the 1776 Commission. | ||
| which helped lay out to districts and schools across the country to say, | ||
| you've got to get back to teaching what the founders said, what made America great, | ||
| what was it that they described as making America exceptional, what did the founders say? | ||
| And so the President Trump did a tremendous job of fighting back against this wokeism in our schools | ||
| to say, let's get back to understanding our history, let's get back to studying our history, | ||
| it's time for all states to do it. | ||
| We've got to get President Trump back in the White House so we can continue to fight on this front and do it nationally because the reality is we are not going to be able to have a constitutional republic. | ||
| We're not going to be able to continue to be the greatest country in the history of the world if our kids don't even understand our history and how we got to this point. | ||
| I'm going to ask you if you're going to hold on. | ||
| Over the break, which we have coming up in a minute or so. | ||
| In the meantime, could you just say something about you personally? | ||
| What does the Bible, the Holy Scripture, the Word of God mean to you personally? | ||
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That's a great question, and I want to give you a little bit more context, too. | |
| My background before I came into this position, I was a history teacher. | ||
| So for 10 years, I taught a history class to public school students in the state of Oklahoma. | ||
| And one of the things is, how do you teach these core concepts I just talked about? | ||
| Why did the pilgrims come to America? | ||
| What were they talking about? | ||
| What religious freedom exactly were they describing? | ||
| What were we talking about with the Mayflower Compact? | ||
| You see throughout American history that you've got to have an understanding of the Bible. | ||
| And frankly, in world history, right? | ||
| You have to have an understanding of that. | ||
| And for the left to claim that you're going to go to a history class, it's the number one best-selling book in American history. | ||
| It's the number one most read book in American history. | ||
| And the left says, well, that's the one book that can't be in the classroom. | ||
| That's absurd. | ||
| Okay, Superintendent Walters, please hold on for a moment and we'll be straight back after the minutes. | ||
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We're going to make an important announcement today regarding the Bible and the Ten Commandments. | |
| My staff has been looking at Oklahoma statute. | ||
| We've been looking at Oklahoma academic standards. | ||
| And it's crystal clear to us that in the Oklahoma Academic Standards, under Title 70, multiple occasions, the Bible is a necessary historical document to teach our kids about the history of this country, to have a complete understanding of Western civilization, to have an understanding of the basis of our legal system, and is frankly, when we're talking about the Bible, one of the most foundational documents used for the Constitution and the birth of our country. | ||
| We also find major points in history that refer to the Bible, that reference the Bible. | ||
| We see multiple figures, whether we're talking about the Federalist Papers, constitutional, conventional arguments, and Martin Luther King Jr., who used it as a tremendous impetus for the Civil Rights Movement, and tie many of those arguments back to the Bible. | ||
| It is essential that our kids have an understanding of the Bible and its historical context. | ||
| So we will be issuing a memo today that every school district will adhere to, which is that every teacher, every classroom in the state will have a Bible in the classroom and will be teaching from the Bible in the classroom to ensure that this historical understanding is there for every student in the state of Oklahoma in accordance with our academic standards and state law. | ||
| Well, Superintendent Walters, the first thing I have to say is God bless you for this work. | ||
| Even if the left promise that they're going to do something when they're elected, and they do it, I don't have a problem with that. | ||
| What I have a real problem in politics is people saying one thing, not doing it when they're elected, and then implementing a whole globalist program which is the very opposite, really, of what people want. | ||
| But what you've done here, this is what you said you were going to do, and now you have done it. | ||
| And that has to give, you know, because we are, we do hold Republicans' feet to the fire on this show. | ||
| Steve Bannon's war room, we couldn't do anything less, right? | ||
| People elected promising to do one thing and not doing it. | ||
| That just drives us and the posse absolutely crazy. | ||
| What you've done here, I think, gives us a sense of renewed hope that even at the state level change is still possible if people are willing to organize, willing to elect, select and elect committed Christians for public life. | ||
| Because, you know, we were talking with Jérôme Rivière in the previous segment about the importance of Western civilization, what Steve himself calls the Judeo-Christian West. | ||
| If we're going to have this renaissance, right, this spiritual renewal, it's not going to be really on the basis of any legislative act. | ||
| It's going to be because individuals are living their faith with Jesus Christ far more intimately and authentically and sincerely. | ||
| And that's where education It's such an important part of formation, right? | ||
| That's why the left, the secularist left, and I've got the quotes here. | ||
| This is why they are so up in arms against what you're doing, because they have a very radical idea of what they think formation of the next generation should be like. | ||
| But it's not a view that has majority support. | ||
| You and your supporters have a different view. | ||
| So I think what you've done here is absolutely That's incredible. | ||
| Could you just say something to me about sort of a possible potential future over the next 10 years as how you might think it could map out as one state after another perhaps takes this mandatory teaching of Bibles initiative in schools that you promoted in Oklahoma? | ||
| Perhaps they take Louisiana's move about promoting the Ten Commandments in schools. | ||
| Perhaps they do both. | ||
| But what do you think the future is now? | ||
| Especially, of course, if Donald Trump wins in November, you'll get a lot of support, I imagine, from the administration in that regard. | ||
| How do you see the future mapping out to the United States? | ||
| And what kind of practical difference do you see these two initiatives making? | ||
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Yeah, boy, you made a lot of great points there. | |
| Can I say this first? | ||
| You made a great point about elected officials saying one thing and then when becoming elected, doing another. | ||
| I'm going to tell you, of course the left is losing their mind over things like this, but I do want to tell you and your audience something here. | ||
| I'm amazed at how many Republicans have come to me over the past year and a half and said, you know, Ryan, I know you said those things to get elected, but you know, when you're elected, you don't do them. | ||
| You just wait till reelection time and then go say you're going to do them again. | ||
| And then, and I go, guys, you know, that's not how I operate. | ||
| When I looked voters in the eye and said, listen, I'm going to make a firm commitment to you. | ||
| I will fight for your values. | ||
| I will fight for your principles. | ||
| I will fight every day to move Oklahoma forward in line with the conservative values of the state. | ||
| I meant it. | ||
| And so I'm amazed at how many in my own party, how many Republican rhinos that get up here and say, | ||
| no, no, no, no, no, you're not actually supposed to do it. | ||
| And then you govern differently. | ||
| Well, that is ridiculous. | ||
| And I am glad that Republican voters are rejecting individuals who operate that way. | ||
| We've got to keep doing it. | ||
| To your point about President Trump, that's also why people love President Trump so much, right? | ||
| Because President Trump means what he says and he gets in there and he actually does the thing. | ||
| And here's what I would say about that. | ||
| If President Trump wins this election, and he will and he needs to, here in November, what you're going to see is, first of all, he's going to abolish the Department of Education. | ||
| It should be done. | ||
| That is a Marxist cesspool where they have pushed the most left-wing ideology onto the states from that department. | ||
| He is going to abolish it. | ||
| It will be done once and for all. | ||
| So I thank him very much for that effort. | ||
| Then also what you're going to see is you're going to see a push from the White House to say, listen, if we're going to teach history, you got to teach history the right way. | ||
| So that means all states need to be adopting the same measure we have here to say, listen, you have to put the Bible back in the classroom. | ||
| We have to understand our history. | ||
| You have to understand how the Bible influenced the founders. | ||
| You have to understand how the Bible influenced the president. | ||
| So this should be in every state in the country. | ||
| And look, the left doesn't, you know, they can be offended. | ||
| They cannot like it. | ||
| But they cannot rewrite our history. | ||
| We cannot allow them to lie to the next generation of Americans. | ||
| Because for this country to be great again, our kids have to understand what made it great in the first place that comes with an understanding of history. | ||
| That's how we get the country back on track. | ||
| I think it was Mario Cuomo who said to campaign in poetry and govern in prose, to which I respond, and I think this is what you're doing as well. | ||
| No, campaign in poetry and govern in dactylic hexameter. | ||
| I think the Warren Posse are going to be absolutely thrilled to see what you're doing. | ||
| And they're going to want to keep an eye on you and your progress. | ||
| How can they follow you on social media and keep up with the great stuff you're doing? | ||
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Well, I appreciate that. | |
| Ryan Walters, S-U-P-T. | ||
| So Ryan Walters, Superintendent on Twitter. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| We're very active. | ||
| We're always out there letting everybody know what we're doing. | ||
| So please follow us there. | ||
| And RyanWaltersForOklahoma.com is another site. | ||
| So I appreciate that very much. | ||
| Superintendent Walters, thank you so much for coming on The War Room today and sharing with us this great work that you're doing down in Oklahoma. | ||
| Godspeed and the very best of progress with what you're doing. | ||
| Stay in touch. | ||
| God bless. |
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