June 29, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| You've been very vocal, I've seen you today, about just how monumental this is, and because admin law is sort of obscure, I think it's hard to communicate why, but tell me why you think it's so significant. | ||
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I just think it's a game changer in terms of how government can possibly work going forward. | |
| And I think if you read Justice Kagan's dissent, it's really, really clear that not only is this now a question of, you know, the water we drink, the food we have, the drugs that we take, you know, environmental policy. | ||
| Ironically, everything that was being talked about on the debate stage last night, Every one of those policies is administered by an agency. | ||
| It's not administered by Joe Biden or Donald Trump. | ||
| And all of those agencies have been kneecapped, absolutely kneecapped in their ability to do their work. | ||
| And more urgently, and this is really the chilling part, we have a bunch of justices who just in the last few weeks, we've got Justice Alito playing doctor in the EMTALA statute, Neil Gorsuch now an expert on emissions and air pollution. | ||
| We've got the court telling us that they know better than ATF what a bump stock is. | ||
| So this has been sort of happening. | ||
| Over years and years, substituting their judgment in areas where they have no expertise. | ||
| Now it's just wholesale. | ||
| It's not agency by agency, case by case. | ||
| It's just the entire administrative state has to bow before Matthew Kaczmarek and his idea about whether Mifepristone should be on the market or not. | ||
| I defer to you guys, you're the experts, but I wonder if there isn't a bit of MAGA sprinkled in there, Mark Stern, just because the deep state, the administrative state, has been such a whipping post for the upper echelons of Trump Inc., including Steve Bannon, the guy going to jail on Monday. | ||
| You know, they have loathed agencies, the federal bureaucracy, and they have come to embrace the judiciary since they have hijacked it for conservative ends. | ||
| Yeah, I think this is an aspect of the traditional Republican business lobby that the MAGA movement has sort of embraced and turbocharged because what the majority opinion by Chief Justice Roberts reflects is not just this deep distrust of of government employees, like you say, the deep state that | ||
| Donald Trump wants to purge, but also a fundamental hostility toward how government | ||
| works today, right? | ||
| The majority is furious that when Congress steps in to enact new legislation in response | ||
| to evolving problems, like, for instance, the Great Recession in 2008, it understands | ||
| that it can't foresee every little problem that could arise on the ground, and it can't | ||
| prescribe every future solution to all of those issues. | ||
| So what Congress does instead, and has done for more than a century, is grant these federal | ||
| agencies broad power to decide how exactly to implement and enforce these laws, and to | ||
| do so in accordance with their own expertise. | ||
| The agencies that the court dismisses as staffed by beady-eyed bureaucrats, I mean, they're | ||
| actually staffed by career civil servants and experts with deep knowledge and experience | ||
| working on issues like here monetary policy, elsewhere environmental policy, food and drug | ||
| safety, right? | ||
| I think that these are the people you would rather trust deciding these major issues, | ||
| some of which can be literally life or death, rather than judges who happen to have a law | ||
| degree and a black robe, and have now made themselves sort of the kings, the deciders | ||
| of all major and minor questions of law and policy in the country. | ||
| So what the majority of the court is telling Congress is you have to start writing narrower | ||
| legislation, you have to start giving less authority to these agencies, you have to write | ||
| feebler laws that are less capable of addressing future problems as they arise. | ||
| And all of that is a recipe for paralyzing government, for paralyzing specifically the | ||
| regulatory state that whether we know it or not, we are all relying on to ensure we have | ||
| clean air, clean water, safe food and drugs. | ||
| Who really likes that outcome? | ||
| It's industry, it's polluters, it's corporations, it's billionaires. | ||
| And so that has always been the class that kind of came together. | ||
| MAGA and the Republican lobby are absolutely in agreement on this particular issue because | ||
| it's good for their bottom line when they can evade EPA regulations and dump as much | ||
| pollution into our rivers as they want. | ||
| I don't know that it will affect Trump, but as you know, Monday is actually what we're waiting for. | ||
| That's what I wanted to ask before. | ||
| How bad is this going to be on Monday? | ||
| They're going to give them immunity for law and prosecution? | ||
| Again, they just said that they are kings and queens and can rule over the EPA and the SEC and all these other things. | ||
| I am pretty sure now that if they don't get them full immunity, they'll get them enough to get through the election. | ||
| I shall say the Constitution said in the night, in the early 18th century, that Donald J. Trump, who shall be born in the year of our Lord so and so and so, is immune from all prosecution but nobody else. | ||
| What news was today that when the Supreme Court denied Steve Bannon's sort of Hail Mary to stay out of prison, he's gonna have to report on Monday, when they denied it, that it was the court saying, uh, you've done your service on deconstructing the administrative staple, we'll take it from here, which I thought was pretty funny. | ||
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...is effectively frozen as we await the court's decision on Trump's absolute presidential immunity case. | |
| Today the court signaled that it will hand down that decision on Monday, July 1st. | ||
| Right in time for the 4th of July holiday. | ||
| Happy Independence Day! | ||
| The best case scenario here is that there will be no federal criminal trial for Donald Trump before this election. | ||
| That's the best case scenario. | ||
| Which means that anyone looking to stop Donald Trump and to secure the fate of American democracy and the gains made in the last half century on civil rights and social progress and to ensure a more equitable and stable future for this country and this planet is now dependent on a Democrat to stop Donald Trump. | ||
| And right now, that person remains President Joe Biden. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamb. | |
| It's Saturday, June 29, in the year of our Lord. | ||
| We've got a lot to get to today. | ||
| I want to thank Brother Chris Hayes. | ||
| That is one of the funniest lines. | ||
| We'll play that. | ||
| A little bit later. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's next man up and now that next man is the Supreme Court. | ||
| Monumental day yesterday. | ||
| Historic. | ||
| And you saw last night the smart folks over at MSNBC, the ones that get it, are in full and total meltdown. | ||
| We're starting, we got Mike Davis, we got Bill McGinley from the RNC. | ||
| We're going to go through it all. | ||
| First off, why don't you start, Mike Davis, because you saw the MSNBC meltdown On the deconstruction of the administrative state, and Bill, this has been a multi-year project, right? | ||
| I mean, I said it at CPAC in February of 17, about the third line of work. | ||
| You had national security, you know, end of foreign America first. | ||
| You had the economic nationalism to bring the jobs back. | ||
| But the third line of work was going to be deconstruction of the administrative state. | ||
| In that audience at CPAC, it was packed that day. | ||
| The mainstream, it had to be a thousand mainstream on the riser, right? | ||
| This is when CPAC was, you know, Trump's coming in, CPAC was huge. | ||
| They had a thousand media and they're all looking at each other, what in the hell is that guy talking? | ||
| That's a crazy band. | ||
| The first time I ever talked in public, I said, what's he talking about? | ||
| The audience was standing on their chairs. | ||
| The MAGA and the deplorables and Republicans, the limited government Republicans have been around and understand this is the only way you take down the Leviathan. | ||
| Right? | ||
| The only way you take it down is that. | ||
| Mike Davis, your thoughts yesterday? | ||
| We had five, we got five administrative stay, I think maybe even one more on Monday. | ||
| Are they all done? | ||
| But the Mac Daddy, The Chevron deference is dead. | ||
| And you know who told me the administrative state is dead? | ||
| Not Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Not Mike Davis. | ||
| Not Bill McGinley. | ||
| Lawrence Tribe. | ||
| People have to understand something. | ||
| I take pride in making sure we squashed Little Merrick Garland from a lifetime appointment by beating Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Remember, Merrick Garland was already in for confirmation. | ||
| Mitch McConnell did his job and made sure that was delayed, right? | ||
| And we got Neil Gorsuch for that. | ||
| That's not a bad trade. | ||
| But the guy they really wanted was Lawrence Tribe, but he was too old. | ||
| The whole theory is you've got to get guys in their 50s or 40s. | ||
| If you're going to get him confirmed, you want him there for a long run. | ||
| But Lawrence Tribe is the head guy. | ||
| He tweeted yesterday. | ||
| When Chevron deference came out, the administrative state is dead. | ||
| And he was not happy about it. | ||
| Mike Davis, your thoughts? | ||
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I would say to you, Stephen K. Bannon, take a bow, my friend. | |
| You were on the selection committee with Mark Paoletta. | ||
| Take a bow before they send you to the clink, before Biden sends you away, because you were key in all this, in selecting my former boss, Neil Gorsuch, who was the intellectual force behind the Chevron case. | ||
| Justice Gorsuch, when he was Judge Gorsuch on the 10th Circuit, wrote a powerful opinion that got people's attention across the judiciary and throughout the executive branch. | ||
| Hey Mike, hang on. | ||
| I want to tell you a story how this really came about because I was one of those guys always yelling about the Leviathan, always arguing about limited... I noticed nothing was ever getting done. | ||
| This came up, and Don McGahn does not get enough, because Don had some rough patches as our first White House counsel, as I think Don would admit. | ||
| Let's say this, President Trump and Don did not see eye to eye on a couple of three topics, but Don McGahn is actually one of the silent heroes here. | ||
| It was the second list. | ||
| When I got in there, we put out 10. | ||
| And they hired Pence as VP. | ||
| But there was still a number, you know, it was still like 10% of the Republicans, 12% | ||
| of the standard Republicans weren't there yet for Trump. | ||
| This was in August. | ||
| And the concept was, let's double down once again and work with Federalist Society and | ||
| Leonard Leo and others and say, let's get another list to show that we intend to have | ||
| a couple of things and you have a deep bench and everybody in the traditional conservative | ||
| movement and Gorsuch was on that list. | ||
| And that's where Don McGahn, as I went through the list with Don McGahn, McGahn said, I think he was on the second list, McGahn talked to me about the administrative state. | ||
| I had heard about it and read about it but I didn't understand it and then I realized Aha! | ||
| This is why I was the only non-lawyer on the selection panel. | ||
| Because what Don McGahn laid out is really a new vision. | ||
| This is getting America, Mike, back to the constitutional republic we are. | ||
| If you're going to do it, the thing you have to go after is the Leviathan. | ||
| On spending and everything, but like I say, you can't cut 3% of spending. | ||
| You have to programmatically go in and stop doing things. | ||
| You can't go and fire a couple of bureaucrats. | ||
| It's not about individual people. | ||
| You have to take out programs and billets. | ||
| And the thing about the administration and Chevron deference, and that's the thing that came up with Neil Gorsuch, was the intellectual firepower. | ||
| of then-judge Gorsuch about this topic and how a new young generation of lawyers and judges had a little bit segwayed from the social conservative, you know, gay marriage, abortion, which they were now segwaying to this concept of the administrative state and Mike Davis was the young Turk That was out there with Judge Gorsuch. | ||
| That opinion and that that is the connecting the dots that led to yesterday. | ||
| And as you saw in the open, Mike Davis, they realized the 20 year project we have ahead of us as we win again and get more Trump judges in here. | ||
| It's just started on taking down the administrative state, sir. | ||
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Absolutely, and this is a monumental decision overruling Chevron deference, and I'm listening to all those leftists in your opening talking about how we need to defer to the experts. | |
| Hell no, we don't need to defer to the experts. | ||
| We see, we saw what happened during COVID lockdowns when we deferred to the experts, when we deferred to the CDC, when they had us with a six-foot rule that was not based in science, when we had these mask This is insane that we would defer to these experts, especially after their COVID disaster where they destroyed our country and destroyed so many people's lives. | ||
| How this is supposed to work under our Constitution is our elected members of Congress write the laws, the president enforces those laws along with his aides in the executive | ||
| branch, but they report to the President of the United States. | ||
| And then courts are supposed to interpret those laws, including how much power this | ||
| executive branch, these agencies have. | ||
| And what the courts have done for 40 years is they just defer to these executive branch | ||
| agencies. | ||
| They just defer to the CDC and the FTC and SEC and say, you know what, we're going to | ||
| defer to your interpretation of your own power. | ||
| And guess what, they take more power. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think MSNBC actually, I think there have been 18,000 formal deferrals to the bureaucracy. | ||
| That ain't happening anymore. | ||
| Hang on one second, we've got Bill McGinley here from the RCA and Bill McGinley is going to walk you through The signal, not the noise, on the coup by the radical left led by the New York Times against Joe Biden to turf Biden out and to replace him. | ||
| It is, by the way, you'll be able to connect the dots, ladies and gentlemen, because it's consistent with what we've talked about before. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| On fire in the war room on a Saturday. | ||
| When the Supreme Court denied Steve Bannon's sort of Hail Mary to stay out of prison, he's going to have to report on Monday. | ||
| When they denied it, it was the court saying, you've done your service on deconstructing the administrative state, but we'll take it from here, which I thought was pretty funny. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| There's no doubt about that. | ||
| Hey, I stand relieved, okay? | ||
| It's now in your hands. | ||
| Davis, you did an amazing job. | ||
| People forget Mike Davis was with Associate Justice Gorsuch, and then went over for the Supreme Court as a clerk, and then Mike Davis. | ||
| Did the really heavy lift on Kavanaugh and Kavanaugh is a example of that moment, that defining moment. | ||
| You remember this, Mike? | ||
| There is a moment they were all over Trump and people wanted to pull the nomination and it was Mike Davis and Grassley and some tough, tough, some tough hombres. | ||
| He said, we're not doing that. | ||
| We're not going to do that. | ||
| If we do this, we're playing their game and we're not going to do it. | ||
| And that was a profile of courage. | ||
| McGinley. | ||
| Mike, hang around for a second. | ||
| I've got to have you comment on this. | ||
| McGinley. | ||
| You have, before you went over to the RNC, and people should know this, you know, the RNC, and I realize there's some controversy, but hey, they're turning the apparatus over and they're pointing downrange, okay? | ||
| And so right now we don't have time for petty squabbles. | ||
| I'm the king of the petty squabble, so we don't have time for the petty squabbles. | ||
| It's everybody point guns downrange. | ||
| But you and Rahim had done a research project over the last couple of years, because McGinley came to me and says, hey look, We have a fundamental problem in the two political parties. | ||
| Number one, our donors are essentially blank they they want to give the candidates tv advertising this weather consultants can can be fluffers and get them all excited and have means the candidates you know i i've got this guy got that guy in the money doesn't go into but it's not investing you're spending edges on these commercials and that they're the least effective thing but the way the consultant class makes the most money he says the democrats | ||
| They're in this for power. | ||
| They're in this to make sure that they can keep control of the American Imperial Project. | ||
| And they do investments, as shown in Colorado years ago. | ||
| But more importantly, they're making investments today in infrastructure. | ||
| And you're the first guy to bring them. | ||
| He says, hey, look, people... And this is over a year ago. | ||
| Bill McGinley came to me. | ||
| We spent a whole afternoon here in the War Room. | ||
| In fact, it was on a Saturday. | ||
| McGinley goes, here's what's disturbing. | ||
| He says this money they're going to put in, it's going to be billions of dollars, is investing in an apparatus That is plug and play. | ||
| You don't need, you don't need Joe Biden. | ||
| So walk me through that at first. | ||
| We're going to get back and David's going to hang with us. | ||
| Walk us through. | ||
| There is a folks, you understand, there is a coup going on right now. | ||
| A coup going on against Biden after last night. | ||
| These people hit it forever, but the New York Times, the big donor money, et cetera, realize what we have said for a long time. | ||
| That guy cannot be Donald Trump. | ||
| And they're just not going to sit here and under no circumstances will they give up this apparatus. | ||
| What was exposed on the night of the debate is that Biden is simply a vehicle for the big donor | ||
| class and the democratic elites to achieve their goals, right? That's their looking for their | ||
| return on investment. This is why they held back the laptop from hell when it was delivered in | ||
| 2019 and Biden was in fifth place. | ||
| Biden finished fourth in Iowa. | ||
| He finished fifth in New Hampshire, I think. | ||
| This was historically out of it and all of a sudden Biden becomes the candidate. | ||
| He's the vehicle. | ||
| He was that middle-of-the-road guy or thought that could, as they stole the election, had the summer of love, the pandemic, everything. | ||
| He was the guy, not Elizabeth Warren, not Bernie Sanders, not Amy Klobuchar, but this was the guy. | ||
| So the apparatus even moved at that time. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Because they're outside. | ||
| And the donors have invested in the infrastructure. | ||
| Like you said, it can become a turnkey operation when they sense a political opportunity. | ||
| And last time I was on, we talked about how the Biden campaign had signaled to the Washington Post, this is how we're going to structure our campaign. | ||
| But if you really understand how these things work, what they really said was, this was going to be an effort that was going to allow us to use this apparatus for whatever candidate sits atop the ticket or down ballot. | ||
| And so that's why when you look at what they've done, they've have the campaign is probably the smallest unit. | ||
| of the of the apparatus. | ||
| The DNC and the state parties and their joint fundraising agreements are receiving most of the money. | ||
| That is not Biden-specific money. | ||
| That is money going into the Democratic Party apparatus that they're going to be able to use no matter who is atop the ticket. | ||
| And most importantly, I think, are the Dark Money Network that they've established. | ||
| And they've blessed a number of organizations that are going to come in and support Future Forward. | ||
| Hang on a second. | ||
| Before we get there, remember a couple of weeks ago, and if Denver can get that chart, but here, I want to go back for the Roaring Posse. | ||
| Because, hey folks, just because I'm leaving for a while doesn't mean I'm leaving. | ||
| But this is, we're setting the narratives here. | ||
| Once again, the two narratives, the national security issue and they have to have a 25th amendment and that's going to cause a constitutional crisis. | ||
| Chip Roy and these guys, we're going to drive that. | ||
| But, they're going to change Biden out. | ||
| When the New York Times comes out, that's for the left, the New York Times editorial is like the voice of God. | ||
| So Biden's going. | ||
| We have to make that process. | ||
| We have to make, when the Praetorian Guard changes out to the next general, maybe Gavin Newsom, the next loyal general, we have to make that process as painful as possible. | ||
| We have to, because they're going to come with search for their Messiah, and then that process of the honeymoon. | ||
| When they get to Chicago, it's going to be all sweetness and light like you've never seen before. | ||
| I mean, we have to make the process between now and then Exposed to the American people what's going on here. | ||
| That this is a controlling apparatus. | ||
| Here's the important thing that Bill McGinley said on this show over a month ago. | ||
| He came in with the member on a Saturday and made the presentation. | ||
| He says, look, I want people to understand something. | ||
| This is not about the DNC versus the RNC. | ||
| This is not even about Biden vs. Trump or the Biden campaign vs. the Trump campaign. | ||
| This is about Trump in an outgunned RNC with $2 billion of outside money from the smartest and most vicious people out there with the best operatives that are paying the real dollars. | ||
| People hanging around the DNC is like a clown show. | ||
| This is the serious money. | ||
| Continue on. | ||
| And also just understanding the difference between the two parties, right? | ||
| The DNC, the Democratic Party, is a top-down party. | ||
| The elites really have the authority to control a lot of the nominating process, but also at the convention, have an opportunity to really throw a wrench into Joe Biden's plans if he wants to fight this. | ||
| The RNC, the Republican Party on the other hand, is more of a bottom-up party. | ||
| If you look at how the delegates are selected, how the governance is done, and so it's more of a grassroots focus. | ||
| That's why Dan Schultz came up with the precinct strategy. | ||
| If you look at the structure of it, it's supposed to be a grassroots party. | ||
| They just cut out the grassroots. | ||
| That's why the But it's also why we talked about the posse is the difference maker. | ||
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Big. | |
| Right? | ||
| Because they may have the billions. | ||
| It's Trump versus the popular, versus the posse. | ||
| Because that, the posse's, they get out the vote and more as importantly to stop the steal is which would cost a couple of billion dollars if you had to pay for that manpower. | ||
| Here it's going to be volunteers. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And that's why we talked about signing up so that you can be put to work and volunteer, put the sweat equity into this election, counteract the billions of dark money that are coming after President Trump and the Republicans. | ||
| And that's why you go to protect the vote, to sign up to be a poll watcher in the battleground states. | ||
| That's why you go to Trump Force 47. | ||
| That's why you go to SwampTheVoteUSA.com so that you can figure out the best way for you to vote and you become a force multiplier. | ||
| You find 10 of your friends to either volunteer as a poll watcher or to make sure that they go out there and cast their ballots and so that we can have something to argue over if there's any sort of post-election proceedings. | ||
| But let's go back to the democratic structure. | ||
| So they have, you know, just like you said, it's Biden, DNC, plus billions of dark money versus Trump, RNC, and the posse volunteer army. | ||
| Now, the way that they structured this, and they said that they were breaking new ground. | ||
| They're not really breaking that much new ground, but what they're doing is when you see these million dollar fundraisers with all of the Hollywood types and all the billionaires from Silicon Valley. | ||
| The 30 million they had in New York City and another 28 million. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| 30 million is not going into the Trump campaign. | ||
| Most of that money... You mean not going to the Biden campaign? | ||
| Excuse me, to the Biden campaign. | ||
| That money is actually going into the DNC and the Democratic state parties. | ||
| That is non-Biden specific money. | ||
| That is money that can be used for anybody who sits atop the ticket. | ||
| So when you think about all this money that's coming into these joint fundraising agreements... It's not tied to Biden. | ||
| It's not tied to Biden. | ||
| Folks, repeat this, and all the left-wing media watching us, we understand what's going on here. | ||
| Follow the money. | ||
| So let me go back. | ||
| When you see the one in Radio City Music Hall was, I think, $28 million. | ||
| The one in Hollywood by George Clooney and these guys were $30 million. | ||
| When you see these massive fundraisers, that doesn't stick to Joe Biden. | ||
| That goes into the committee, and the committee then funnels it down to the state parties. | ||
| All those donations to the state parties come back to the DNC. | ||
| So on the evening of the 28th of August, if that nominee that walks on the stage is Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama or Oprah Winfrey, it's whoever that person is, the official Democratic nominee. | ||
| A lot of that money is available. | ||
| A lot of that money is available. | ||
| But all of the $2 billion in the invested infrastructure around it. | ||
| In the dark money network? | ||
| Dark money. | ||
| That's available. | ||
| What does this mean? | ||
| There are a number of hurdles that the Democrats have to replacing Joe Biden. | ||
| Number one, they've been lecturing us for years about they're the party of democracy. | ||
| They need to preserve democracy. | ||
| And now the Democratic elites are actively and openly talking about disenfranchising every Democratic primary voter who voted for Joe Biden. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they don't think he can win. | ||
| They're concerned that he may not win an election. | ||
| The Democrats actually have a history of this. | ||
| At the Senate level, if you look in New Jersey, Bob Torricelli was a sitting U.S. | ||
| Senator, Democrat, ran into a big ethics scandal after the primary had already been done and he was the nominee. | ||
| Democrats realized he couldn't win, so they actually sued in New Jersey to be able to swap him out for Frank Lautenberg, who was a former Senator, who they then put on the ballot and ended up prevailing in the election. | ||
| So, when you're a Democratic primary voter, you have to realize your vote may not actually determine who your nominee is going to be in the general election if the Democratic elites disagree with your choice. | ||
| There's zero probability of this. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Everybody go to Birchgold. | ||
| Birchgold.com. | ||
| The capital markets part of this is going to be on fire over the next couple of months. | ||
| We're going to have a great team here. | ||
| Scott Besant, E.J. | ||
| Antoni, Dave Bratt, Peter Navarro will be joining us back on the 17th of July. | ||
| He'll take his seat as one of our many co-hosts on the 18th, the morning 18th from the RNC, we hope. | ||
| So birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| Go talk to Philip Patrick and the team. | ||
| Make sure you do it today. | ||
| Before I go to break, I want to make an observation. | ||
| The DNC is actually run Like when the Bolshevik, when the revolution in Russia started, the Bolsheviks had very little to do with it. | ||
| It was British intelligence, French intelligence that collapsed the Romanovs. | ||
| The Soviets, Soviets were just coordinating committees. | ||
| The Soviets, it wasn't the Soviets, the Soviets, the local Soviet was a coordinating committee that made all the decisions. | ||
| The DNC was set up As an American Soviet. | ||
| It was set up in very structure to have the labor unions have a piece. | ||
| Every big power group would have their seat at the table. | ||
| The people, not so much. | ||
| When the Supreme Court denied Steve Bannon's sort of hail Mary to stay out of prison, he's going to have to report on Monday. | ||
| When they denied it, it was the court saying, you've done your service on deconstructing the administrative state, but we'll take it from here, which I thought was pretty funny. | ||
| I stand relieved. | ||
| Mike Davis, You've been in this fight, and folks, here's why, because this is the Trump Revolution. | ||
| The Trump Revolution is in full, and they know it, and we can't be stopped. | ||
| The only way we can be stopped is if we quit, and we're not going to quit. | ||
| You're just now getting your power. | ||
| It's that old, I think it's from the Hindu religions. | ||
| They have a thing called the Roar of Awakening. | ||
| And it's about a little tiger that gets lost from his mom and is raised by a collection of sheep. | ||
| And he runs around with sheep and he plays with sheep and he does everything with sheep. | ||
| He's raised by sheep. | ||
| And then one day I think they come up on a carcass and he looks over and he jumps over and looks at it and sniffs around it and he takes a bite as a carnivore of meat. | ||
| And as soon as it happens, it's like he just roars. | ||
| Like a lion, right? | ||
| And that's what this movement, this movement, and this, what happened yesterday, quite frankly, what happened this entire Supreme Court session, and you're going to see this on Monday, I think, with the immunity, but you saw it with Fisher yesterday, Mike Davis, people have worked for decades for this, and this is not a small win, this is a big win. | ||
| The woman last night that was on, Alex Wagner, She was absolutely brilliant. | ||
| I mean, she walked in, she goes, look, even people on the left, you do not understand how big this is. | ||
| This is actually how they start to take apart the federal government. | ||
| You know, we are the party of government, Democrats, and always increase it. | ||
| This, they've now laid it out. | ||
| And we can't reverse it. | ||
| They were gobsmacked. | ||
| So Davis, give me your assessment. | ||
| How do we get here? | ||
| Where are we and where are we going to go? | ||
| The judges are everything. | ||
| Every Republican in the Warren posse, you must clip this piece and get it to your friend sitting there going, you know, on TV, I don't know, Trump has mean tweets and Trump says bad things and Trump's mean and, you know, Trump and Sturmey Daniels and Trump in this and Trump in that. | ||
| And when Trump gets sentenced to prison on the 11th, it doesn't matter. | ||
| This is the thing itself. | ||
| If you want to get back to liberty, you want to beat tyranny back, if you want to be free men and women, if you want to slay the Leviathan, This is, you know, it's Project 2025 and everybody's doing it from the executive branch. | ||
| It's supporting those people in the House that want to pass legislation to do this. | ||
| And the third angle of attack is the Supreme Court. | ||
| And they have delivered a victory that is the biggest victory we've ever had in taming the Leviathan. | ||
| Mike Davis, your thoughts? | ||
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Well, I would say this. | |
| The political branches are not going to drain the swamp because they are the reptiles. | ||
| The executive branch, Congress, they're not going to drain the swamp. | ||
| No matter how hard Republicans try, that's not going to happen. | ||
| You know who's going to drain the swamp? | ||
| The federal judges, the plumbers, right? | ||
| Those are the people who are gonna drain the swamp because they're going to, over the next 20 years, | ||
| put the federal government back into its place as the Constitution requires, | ||
| where Congress writes the laws, our elected members of Congress write the laws, | ||
| the president and the executive branch enforce the laws, and judges decide cases and controversies. | ||
| They interpret the laws. | ||
| And we're not gonna have these unelected, unaccountable executive branch bureaucrats | ||
| steal all that power from the other branches and then steal power that belongs to the states | ||
| and we the people, as confirmed by the 10th Amendment. | ||
| So you're gonna see the federal government lose its power and it's gonna return to the states and the people. | ||
| And then you're gonna see the power that remains with the federal government divided among the branches | ||
| as it was intended under the Constitution. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| That's a vision, brother. | ||
| They say Trump has no vision. | ||
| That's the vision. | ||
| That's MAGA. | ||
| That's what MAGA has delivered. | ||
| This is how you get this republic back to a constitutional republic and away from this madness. | ||
| Now, Mike Davis, Article 3, you're such a central player here. | ||
| You have a big part of this. | ||
| As I get relieved on Monday morning, you're going to have a big part of this going forward. | ||
| How do people get to Article 3? | ||
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Well, let me just make a point about that because Steve is too modest to say this. | |
| I don't think Biden understands what a mistake they are making by sending Steve Bannon to jail because he's going to go in like the Nation of Islam and convert the whole jail to MAGA. | ||
| They're going to come out with all these Trump supporters in jail and then he's going to come out guns a-blazin' the week before the election. | ||
| He's going to become a legend, right? | ||
| If you think Steve Bannon is a legend now, wait until he comes out of prison. | ||
| You know, I love history. | ||
| I don't want to say anything, but Bastille Day is celebrated on the 14th. | ||
| That's when we went to the prison where the guy's at. | ||
| And also, people, you study the Russian Revolution, it didn't really kick in until they got to the jails and got the revolutionaries out. | ||
| Just saying. | ||
| Mike Davis, you're great. | ||
| Article 3 Project, you're the tip of the tip of the spear. | ||
| Where do people go, brother? | ||
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Article three project dot org. | |
| Article number three project dot org. | ||
| You could donate there. | ||
| We're not going to piss away your money on stupid, stupid TV ads. | ||
| We're doing our own law fair. | ||
| We're lean and mean and we're fighting back. | ||
| Maybe we'll go bust Steve out of prison. | ||
| We'll bust Steve out of prison. | ||
| We'll use that money. | ||
| No, hold it, hold it. | ||
| Tell me, no, no, hang on, but real quickly, give me the criminal referral. | ||
| You got a criminal referral for what, the number, the person that heads the civil rights | ||
| division of the Justice Department, you sent a criminal referral over to? | ||
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Well, we did a criminal referral. | |
| We did an office of professional responsibility complaint. | ||
| We did a bar complaint in D.C. | ||
| We did a bar complaint in New York. | ||
| We've gone after these Obama and Biden and other Democrat judges with judicial misconduct | ||
| complaints. | ||
| We're not messing around. | ||
| We're not pissing away money on TV ads to line our pockets. | ||
| I've spent two and a half million dollars of my own money running this because I'm crazy. | ||
| And so we're spending this money effectively and efficiently and we're moving the ball. | ||
| There's a reason that the Supreme Court, there's a reason that John Roberts, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, joined the majority and wrote the opinion. | ||
| He felt comfortable enough joining the Chevron majority and write the opinion. | ||
| It's because we've changed the politics over the last four years and Steve Bannon was the leader of that. | ||
| Hold it, hold it. | ||
| Now that I'm not looking for a stay, we can talk turkey. | ||
| No, I'm just kidding. | ||
| I gotta say though, it's kind of shocking to me. | ||
| Given the genesis of this, and given an extraordinary, and by the way, you've got to read Gorsuch's story about his mother, that he adored his mother, his mother was his hero, what she went through in the Reagan administration, I mean, she is a true, she's MAGA before MAGA. | ||
| This woman was tough as boot leather, and hey, didn't want, she wouldn't burk any nonsense, I mean, just an extraordinary woman, you can see that. | ||
| His formation, he's molded in her image and likeness. | ||
| And the reason he's looked at this intellectually is so powerful and so important about the difference between liberty and tyranny. | ||
| A lot of people talk about it. | ||
| He went to the heart of what does it really mean. | ||
| Mike Davis, given it's so monumental and it'll be talked about and discussed for decades and decades and decades, Why was Neil Gorsuch, why did Neil Gorsuch elect the leader? | ||
| I don't want to say Roberts kind of came in and globbed on to the glory, but he did come on and glob on to the glory. | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
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Well, I would say this. | |
| Newt Gingrich used to talk about this. | ||
| If you want politicians to get anything done, you have to build the parade and let the politicians lead the parade. | ||
| So if John Roberts wants to be the politician leading the parade on Chevron, great. | ||
| As long as we have his vote, I don't give a damn who's leading the parade, as long as we're overturning Chevron and deconstructing the administrative state. | ||
| Look, the real answer is as the Chief Justice, if he's in the majority, he gets to assign the opinion, and so he assigned the opinion to himself. | ||
| I'm surprised he didn't assign it to Gorsuch, but you know what? | ||
| If we have the Chief Justice's vote and he's not being a squish and a wimp, great. | ||
| I think Roberts had enough of War Room saying it's the Thomas Court. | ||
| Pay a letter on his saying it's the Thomas Court. | ||
| He wanted the biggest thing they're ever going to do. | ||
| He wanted to put his name on it. | ||
| It's the Roberts Court. | ||
| Last thing for you. | ||
| I've got to have that. | ||
| McGinley, I want you to jump in too. | ||
| Since Associate Justice Jackson Was with us on Fisher, and it's a separate opinion, but it ain't too shabby. | ||
| I'm not a lawyer, but hey, she's on our side of the football, on one that's huge, and blowing up, and that'll lead to massive investigations of the Justice Department. | ||
| And I think the Notre Dame law professor, Coney Barrett, Connie Barrett's a little jiggy right now. | ||
| Where do we stand? | ||
| I thought this was supposed to be... I thought she was supposed to be a conservative. | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| We've got Judge Jackson on our side of the football, writing her own opinion that concurs, and she's taken, quite frankly, a quite courageous stand. | ||
| What's the deal with the Notre Dame law professor? | ||
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I would say this to Justice Amy Coney Barrett, if you're deciding whether to join an opinion or not join an opinion, you look over on the right and you see Justice Jackson. | |
| And you're not at least on the right, then maybe you should get your head out of your ass. | ||
| Like, you are a rattled law professor and you think your job is to grade law school exams instead of exercising good judgment. | ||
| She's not some liberal, she's not some David Souter, but she's some rattled law professor who thinks that she is the smartest person in the room and she has to prove to everyone why she's the smartest person in the room. | ||
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Just get to the right damn result. | |
| Mike Davis, thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
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Thank you, sir. | |
| You're a student of this. | ||
| Did that shock you a little bit? | ||
| Jackson joining the majority? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Independent opinion, but the opinion is pretty strong. | ||
| You think that's a good rule for Associate Justice Coney Barrett? | ||
| When you see Judge Jackson over there sitting with Thomas and Gorsuch and Alito, maybe you slide your papers over there. | ||
| If you're worried about your personal politics, it gives you all the cover you need. | ||
| The fact that she joined the majority. | ||
| Do you think it sometimes gets that political? | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| I think sometimes it does. | ||
| But at the end of the day... I would not opine that maybe it was not the best time to drop my stay in during the firestorm they're having right now. | ||
| And hey, they just left immunity. | ||
| They got out of town and they're leaving immunity for Monday. | ||
| The important to remember is even before President Trump was able to get his justices onto the Supreme Court. | ||
| The Supreme Court was very skeptical of taking these vague criminal statutes and giving them an overbroad application, right? | ||
| We saw it in the Enron case. | ||
| We saw it in the Bob McDonald case. | ||
| And this is the grandson of Enron, right? | ||
| Because they really took the Enron filings and tried to back... This is Andrew Weissman, who will be deeply investigated in the future. | ||
| And Jack Smith, I think, was Bob McDonald. 100%. | ||
| And so the Supreme Court, because remember the rule of lenity, I mean the governing philosophy | ||
| is always that the criminal statute is supposed to have a very narrow application so that | ||
| a man of common intelligence can know what is right and what is wrong, what is prohibited | ||
| and what is permitted. | ||
| And when they're taking these statutes and giving them an overly broad application, it's | ||
| really unfair to the defendants because how do you prove the negative, right? | ||
| These guys are being charged. | ||
| with things where it just doesn't have any application. | ||
| Well, it's what happened in New York. | ||
| Do I have Caroline Rennup? | ||
| We're going to try to get her. Let's go back to this coup. | ||
| I want to make sure I want to reset and explain to people | ||
| what's happening. | ||
| There is an apparatus that's well-funded of a couple of billion dollars. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is what controls the administrative state and the deep state and puts these radical Democrats in. | ||
| They're not going to just... That's who put Biden in to run in the summer of love. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They didn't have a primary, right? | ||
| They wouldn't have a primary. | ||
| They wouldn't debate. | ||
| Wouldn't debate. | ||
| No debates to keep Biden. | ||
| And then when Biden, when it's obvious... And they changed the primary schedule. | ||
| Change this schedule. | ||
| Now they realize, and they've realized this over a couple of months, this is the suppression of information. | ||
| The Wall Street Journal broke this a month ago about talking about advisors, he's very slow, and they came out in a firestorm and said it's not true. | ||
| We know from Europe, people that contacted us from Europe when Biden was over there for the 80th commemoration of D-Day and also stayed around For the French, uh, stay there, or I guess he came back and went back for the French, um, for the French, uh, you know, celebration of, uh, of, uh, of their celebration that he was, he was slow. | ||
| He was slow on the uptake. | ||
| So people have known this for a while. | ||
| And remember when people were posting the videos of him walking around or getting lost or stumbling his words, those were cheap fakes. | ||
| Remember that was the narrative that was coming out of the white house. | ||
| Zen master, Zen master, Jean Pierre. | ||
| So suddenly that dropped, uh, with the debate because everybody saw it. | ||
| And one of the things that I've talked about with people is, you know, one of the reasons that that cheap fake narrative doesn't take hold is because, especially in modern day America, people of my generation are taking care of their kids, but they're also taking care of their elderly parents who are in nursing homes, memory units across the country. | ||
| They recognize what's going on. | ||
| You can't spin it, they see it. | ||
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| We're gonna get to all that. | ||
| Throughout the show. | ||
| I want to bring in Bruce Castor and Marlee Hornick from up in Pennsylvania. | ||
| Bruce, folks remember you is that you were one of President Trump's impeachment lawyers on impeachment number one. | ||
| You've got something. | ||
| When Jack Posobiec calls me up and a couple other colleagues I haven't said, this thing's explosive and Castor's on top of it. | ||
| What the hell's going on? | ||
| You're up there and you're saying you know about voter fraud? | ||
| Or what's happening? | ||
| Because Pennsylvania, you know, Josh Shapiro is going to offer himself to the nation here in a couple of weeks as a savior to the Democratic Party. | ||
| So what the hell's going on in Pennsylvania? | ||
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Well, it's not necessarily voter fraud. | |
| It's simply that we discovered that in Pennsylvania, and we think it's throughout the nation, that the various minimal touchstones that Congress requires before we can determine whether an election is reliable or not, are not being met and were not met in the 2022 election. | ||
| So I filed an action in Harrisburg in federal court Uh, saying that here's how we know it wasn't followed in 2022, and we're afraid that if we don't make some changes, those same problems are gonna occur in 2024. | ||
| And it's not accusing anybody of doing anything wrong, and it's not trying to reverse the election. | ||
| It's saying, just as a matter of mathematics, Congress has said you're only allowed to have a certain number of errors in an election and in Pennsylvania in 2022, we pole vaulted over that number. | ||
| And it's the idea of if you go buy a fancy Swiss watch and it runs a couple seconds fast a day, you think you have a marvel of engineering. | ||
| If it runs five minutes fast a day, you send it back because it's no longer reliable when you check your watch. | ||
| And what we saw in 2022 and all the vote count litigation was that if there wasn't evidence that the so-called fraud would overturn the election, then Then that's okay. | ||
| We don't need to look any further. | ||
| And what kept bothering me about that was, at what point do we say that the election has sufficient number of flaws that we don't have confidence in its reliability? | ||
| So when Marley and United Sovereign Americans asked me to take a look at their ideas in this area, it matched up with the ones I had been mulling on for the last couple of years, and I thought they were right, and I just agreed to take on the case. | ||
| Okay, but hang on for one second before I get to Marley. | ||
| When you say Congressional, the Congressional's put in a template and that template's not being met. | ||
| Be specific. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
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Well, in the help of America Vote Act, Congress said that you can have, in any given federal election run by a state, you can have 1 in 10 million ballot positions with an error. | |
| Now, a ballot position is each one of those little dots you fill in. | ||
| So the Federal Election Commission figured out that in order to get to 10 million ballot positions, you have to have 125,000 ballots. | ||
| So you can have one error per 125,000 ballots. | ||
| So in Pennsylvania, if there were five and a half million votes cast, you divide 125,000 into five and a half million, and you come up with some number, like we calculated it out to between 43 and 44 errors in the election before you could say that the election is no longer reliable if you had more errors than that. | ||
| Well, in one area alone, and we listed a number of them in our petition, but in one area alone, there were 9,100 more votes counted than there were ballots cast. | ||
| So you have 91 errors right there. | ||
| I just want to repeat that for the audience. | ||
| There were 9,100 plus votes counted, more than there were ballots cast. | ||
| So you know that those are errors by the tabulators in overcounting the vote. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Slow down for a second. | ||
| Ballots are what counts. | ||
| It's ballots that count at the end of the day. | ||
| That's the official, not votes. | ||
| Are you telling me that you found that there were more votes counted than actually they had ballots, and this was all coming through the Secretary of State and the local election officials? | ||
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Yes, that's right. | |
| So you know that there's a problem right there, and nobody seemed to care about it. | ||
| Well, hold it, but hang on, hang on, full stop. | ||
| You have an entire apparatus from the local level all the way up to the Secretary of State of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania that has to certify this. | ||
| How can you legally certify it? | ||
| If your numbers are correct, how can you actually go through a legal certification, sir? | ||
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Well, there is no provision, evidently, for election officials certifying elections that they know have these errors in them. | |
| They just say so. | ||
| And one of the things we put in the petition is we asked the federal judge to say that you cannot certify an election unless you can say that the law has been complied with and there have been fewer errors than the Congress allows in the conduct of that election. | ||
| So yeah, federal or state and county officials were signing off on elections and verifying them without actually knowing them to have accurate results. | ||
| Okay, Harris Texas. | ||
| So Marley, how did you get how did you and your group get involved in this? | ||
| I picked up a clipboard in July of 2021 and founded New York Citizens Audit, which we began looking at what we thought were anomalies, millions of anomalies in the New York State voter roll database, where you have, you know, people registered to vote before they're born, people voting before they're registered, purged registrations, casting ballots, all this stuff. | ||
| We said, oh, look at all these anomalies. | ||
| Harry Howery and I founded United Sovereign Americans after we took all that data from New York and put it next to the law and we said, this isn't anomalies. | ||
| It looks like we might have uncovered over 5 million felonies in the New York State voter | ||
| registration list that amounted in the 2022 midterm to 745,000 apparently illegal votes. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I tell you, can you guys hang on for one second? | ||
| We're going to hold you through the break. | ||
| We got a lot. | ||
| We're going to go to England and Raheem Kassam is on the campaign trail with Nigel Farage before I think we're going to try to get Raheem over to France tomorrow. | ||
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