June 27, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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As Steve Bannon. | |
| But on Monday, Trump's former campaign manager and chief White House strategist will become federal inmate number 05635509. | ||
| Having already lost his case and his first appeal, Bannon is expected to report to a federal prison in Connecticut on Monday morning. | ||
| That is, unless the Supreme Court intervenes, which it could do at any moment. | ||
| Today, the Department of Justice formally urged the High Court not to intervene here and to let Mr. Bannon face accountability for his actions. | ||
| But remarkably, the Justice Department isn't the only group that lobbied the court about Steve Bannon today. | ||
| Mr. Speaker, I understand there might be a change in position regarding the House and their stance on the January 6th committee, and it might be regarding Steve Bannon, and it may have a big impact on his contempt case. | ||
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Tell me what's going on. | |
| Yeah, we're working on filing an amicus brief and his appellate work there in his case. | ||
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Today, Speaker of the House Mike Johnson and several other Republican members of the House voted to make the formal position of the U.S. | |
| House of Representatives, the formal position that the January 6th Committee did not have the authority to do the work that it did. | ||
| And that therefore, Steve Bannon should not have to go to prison. | ||
| To step back here for some context, remember that the reason Steve Bannon is headed to prison in the first place is because he refused to comply with the subpoena from the January 6th committee. | ||
| That's despite clearly knowing a lot about January 6th and the plan to overturn Biden's win in Congress. | ||
| Just to refresh your memory, here was Mr. Bannon the day before the attack on the Capitol. | ||
| Tomorrow morning, look, what's going to happen, we're going to have at the Ellipse, President Trump speaks at 11, we're going to be live at 10, we've got a lot more news and analysis of exactly what's going to go into the day. | ||
| I'll tell you this, it's not going to happen like you think it's going to happen, okay? | ||
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It's going to be quite extraordinarily different. | |
| And all I can say is strap in. | ||
| The War Room, a posse, you have made this happen and tomorrow it's game day. | ||
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Strap in, tomorrow it's game day. | |
| Today the Washington Post and George Mason University are out with new polling that asked voters in six key swing states who they trusted more when it came to protecting our democracy. | ||
| Joe Biden or Donald Trump. | ||
| And somehow, Donald Trump came out on top. | ||
| 44% of voters in those six swing states trust Trump over Biden to protect democracy. | ||
| In Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Georgia, 44% of voters trust Donald Trump, the man who incited the attack on the Capitol, the man who calls the January 6th rioters hostages, and more to the point, the man who tried to subvert democracy and steal our last presidential election by force. | ||
| But somehow, somehow, More voters in the swing states that will likely decide this election trust Donald Trump over Joe Biden when it comes to defending our democracy. | ||
| That poll is confounding. | ||
| But it also highlights a dark reality and one that we have to wrestle with to understand what is really happening in our nation's politics right now. | ||
| The big lie is working. | ||
| Not everywhere and not all the time. | ||
| But Donald Trump and his Republican boosters in Congress and the right-wing media, they have all successfully sold a sizable portion of the American public, not just on the lie that the 2020 election was rigged, but that people like Donald Trump and Steve Bannon are victims. | ||
| And that they, Trump and Bannon, are the defenders of freedom, fighting against an unseen fascist cabal. | ||
| As preposterous as it may seem, that lie, based on grievance rather than the actual truth, well, that lie really seems to have found an audience. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| It's Thursday, 27 June in the year of our Lord 2024 in a historic week. | ||
| Of course, a lot going on today. | ||
| Debate, everything, we're gonna go to the Supreme Court. | ||
| But, I gotta tell you, I think while I'm away, I think while I'm away, we've got a new cold open for the show. | ||
| That was about as perfect as you can get. | ||
| She hit every beat. | ||
| And a hat tip to Alex Wagner. | ||
| She is the only, I believe, person over at MSNBC or CNN that dealt with that poll. | ||
| We're going to get into a lot more on this whole thing. | ||
| Democracy and democracy dies in darkness. | ||
| And, you know, Biden is practicing all week. | ||
| And the big thing they're talking about, if you follow their debate prep, is democracy, the defender of democracy. | ||
| Hello. | ||
| When you look at the swing states, voters, Washington Post poll, President Trump's Crushing him on being the defender of democracy. | ||
| And with independent voters, I think it's a 13-point spread. | ||
| Huge. | ||
| We'll get back to it. | ||
| Alex Wagner does it last night. | ||
| We'll have more of that show a little later. | ||
| We're gonna go to the Supreme Court. | ||
| The historic day, even before the debate, is what's happening in the Supreme Court. | ||
| Mike Davis joins us. | ||
| Mike, do we know anything right now? | ||
| We have a couple cases that have just come out by Justice Gorsuch, my former boss. | ||
| One of them is an EPA case where the Supreme Court in a 5-4 ruling with Gorsuch, the Chief Justice, Justice Alito, Justice Thomas, and Kavanaugh and then Barrett wrote a dissenting opinion, | ||
| Justice Barrett wrote a dissenting opinion with the three liberals, a 5-4 decision | ||
| where the Supreme Court held that the EPA must stay its | ||
| process under the Clean Air Act. | ||
| The states, the federal government is supposed to work with the states and the | ||
| states are supposed to work with each other as they come up with clean air | ||
| Well, the federal government, of course, tried to Bigfoot the states and didn't follow the Clean Air Act, and so the Supreme Court, in a 5-4 decision, just stayed the enforcement of a new part of the Clean Air Act. | ||
| I want to put it in perspective, Mike. | ||
| This is part of the five, I think, administrative state decisions, and this is what Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are kind of known as experts in, or it's really their line of work as far as legal theory. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong here, brother. | ||
| Not a good sign, Coney Barrett. | ||
| Not a good sign, Coney Barrett. | ||
| Once again, not on the side of the angels, sir. | ||
| Well, here's the deal with Justice Amy Coney Barrett. | ||
| She is a very cautious former law professor and I think the issue for her was this was a, it was an order, it was an injunction as opposed to a decision on the merits, right? | ||
| So I think Justice Amy Coney Barrett at times is very cautious. | ||
| I would say a rattled law professor at times who can't make decisions, but sometimes these law professors get rattled and they don't want to make tough decisions. | ||
| They don't want to rock the boat. | ||
| You know, sometimes it's really hard with your lifetime tenure and pay protection. | ||
| It's still hard for some who get rattled, these nutty professors, to do their damn jobs. | ||
| So, Justice Barrett is in law professor mode. | ||
| Why is this for the administrative state, and we're waiting for the Mac Daddy, which is the Chevron deference. | ||
| But these cases, why is this important for kind of the MAGA movement and this redirection of America, particularly about this? | ||
| We've talked about limited government for a long time. | ||
| We've talked about getting federal spending down. | ||
| Everything has failed. | ||
| It just grows more and more, and it grows more into your Yeah, so this is what we've been talking about on the war room for several years now. | ||
| Our Constitution is a loan agreement between we, the people, and our governments. | ||
| we the people loan our governments, the federal government, state governments, | ||
| tribal governments, specific enumerated and divided powers. | ||
| Congress has the power to legislate, the executive branch has the power to | ||
| enforce the laws, and the judiciary has the power to decide cases and controversies. | ||
| And the problem is over the last, you know, 70 years these administrative | ||
| agencies not only have taken all the powers from the states and the people, | ||
| as confirmed by the Tenth Amendment, they just grabbed all these powers the | ||
| federal government does not have, then they've made it worse by consolidating | ||
| all of the federal powers. | ||
| into these unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats called the administrative state, the Tony Fauci's of the world, where you have these doctors and scientists and career officials who think it's their job to make policy decisions on behalf of the American people instead of our elected members of Congress. | ||
| And the Supreme Court understands That, you know, starting with FDR, the Constitution has been turned on its head from a shield that protects the American people from the government into a sword the government uses to come after us. | ||
| And that is going to be the project of this constitutionalist Supreme Court. | ||
| Thank you, President Trump. | ||
| Over the next 20 years is to reverse that, to put the federal government back in its proper place. | ||
| under the Constitution and to make sure that the executive branch has executive power and not lawmaking and judicial power. | ||
| We hear people, politicians all the time, on TV hits, on speeches, talk about federalism, devolving things back to the states. | ||
| That's what, when we talk about the administrative state, it's deconstructing at the federal level, and to the degree those powers are necessary, get them back to the states and have the government in a much smaller capacity work with them. | ||
| You talk about a 20-year project with these young judges, that's why you're starting with these cases. | ||
| Remember, we had one, I think West Virginia, A year ago, now you got four or five, including the Mac Daddy, the Chevron deference. | ||
| In your thinking, as you see it right now, do you see a consistency with the majority, including Chief Justice Roberts, which I'm glad he's joined this posse, about their thinking about the administrative state and how to deconstruct it from a judicial aspect, sir? | ||
| Yeah, I think there are three camps on the court. | ||
| There's the Thomas Alito Gorsuch camp who would follow the Constitution today and let the chips fall where they may. | ||
| You have the Chief Justice. | ||
| And Justice Kavanaugh and Justice Barrett, who are more incremental, but they're still largely with us. | ||
| And then you have the three leftist women on the court who they are just political actors and they like political results. | ||
| If the result is pro-left, pro-Democrat, they're going to vote for it. | ||
| And if the result is not pro-left, not pro-Democrat, they're going to vote against it because they're politicians in ropes. | ||
| So then, I want to get to, in fact, let's go there now. | ||
| I think we've got time. | ||
| Justice Alito's, you finally had time to take a look at it. | ||
| He was pretty worked up in his dissent yesterday, sir, on Facebook. | ||
| Yeah, he should be, and I've had a chance to go back and read that opinion, and I would say this, that these judges will come up with these tricks and games that they play to avoid making tough decisions when the political pressure is applied, and the Biden regime put political pressure On the Supreme Court, because the Biden regime wants to have disinformation and misinformation police that they can politicize and weaponize and deploy to come after conservatives and others with whom they disagree. | ||
| And what the Supreme Court did yesterday is they found an out. | ||
| You had Justice Barrett, this rattled law professor, and she's conservative, no doubt, but she's just rattled. | ||
| And she sometimes she likes to navel gaze and overthink things and so she came up with this Opinion that said that these what five individuals in these two states did not have standing meaning that they didn't have injury in fact or ongoing injury in fact in order to for the court to uphold the injunction that the lower courts put in place stopping the Biden administration from working with trillion-dollar big tech monopolist like Facebook that gets section 230 immunity from the government that gets antitrust amnesty from the government that gets these government grants and so these big tech platforms like Facebook of course | ||
| Say, how high do you want us to jump when the Biden White House and the Biden disinformation weirdos call over to Facebook and say, hey, we need to censor this doctor on the right because he disagrees with Father Fauci? | ||
| Mike, hang on one second. | ||
| Mike Davis of the Supreme Court will return there. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Welcome back. | ||
| Philip Patrick's going to join us in hour two. | ||
| Jack Posobiec is going to be also in studio. | ||
| We've got a lot going on with Jack. | ||
| Massive story in Real Clear Investigations by Paul Sperry about the CIA's direct involvement in the 2016 and 2020 elections. | ||
| Kind of blockbuster stuff. | ||
| Also, I think it's up at the New York Post. | ||
| It's one of the lead stories on Zero Hedge. | ||
| Posobiec is going to be here, a former naval intelligence officer, to break it all down for us. | ||
| Times of turbulence, and it's only going to get a lot more turbulent, folks. | ||
| Scott Besson is going to join us later. | ||
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| Mike Davis, we've had another drop. | ||
| Can you walk? | ||
| I think this is also dealing with the administrative state, sir. | ||
| Can you walk us through it? | ||
| Another very big case out of the Supreme Court and another win for the Constitution. | ||
| 6-3 with the Chief Justice writing the opinion. | ||
| Justice Barrett found her backbone. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| 6-3 decision where the Supreme Court held That the Securities and Exchange Commission, which is supposed to be this executive branch agency, but it's this weird independent agency that, or they're not independent, they think they are, but they have what are called administrative law judges, which are essentially federal bureaucrats who pretend like they're judges. | ||
| And they use these ALJs, administrative law judges, to decide their cases within the SEC to impose fines on | ||
| people. | ||
| And they do this without a jury under the Seventh Amendment to the Constitution. | ||
| They also do this when they're not judges. | ||
| They're executive branch employees. | ||
| They're not even appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. | ||
| The Supreme Court said they can't do this, that this is unconstitutional for executive branch | ||
| employees to pretend like they're judges. | ||
| They're trans judges, apparently. | ||
| And they also, if you want to be a judge, you have to get nominated by the. | ||
| The president, and confirmed by the Senate, and supported by the Article 3 project, so you don't get clobbered, but these ALJs just don't cut it. | ||
| So, a huge, huge, monumental case in the 20-year effort to deconstruct the administrative state. | ||
| I would say this, we may be disappointed from judges from time to time, like Justice Amy Coney Barrett, being a rattled law professor, Uh, when the cases aren't perfect vehicles for her, but she delivered here. | ||
| Who is the lead opinion? | ||
| Is this all Gorsuch and Alito? | ||
| People that have, as you know, Justice Thomas, but he never had any backup. | ||
| And now you're seeing Justice Roberts. | ||
| I think what's so incredible here is that the initial, you know, with West Virginia happening and now you've got two big wins today on the administrative state. | ||
| Uh, it's, it's, it's, it's directionally. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| And I particularly like, Who's signing up for the opinions and getting six to three decisions, sir? | ||
| Yeah, and I would say that, look, I've said this all along. | ||
| The Chief Justice is not liberal, right? | ||
| He's not even moderate. | ||
| He's conservative. | ||
| He's just too incremental for my liking, and he's too small-p political, meaning he cares about being incremental. | ||
| He cares about the optics. | ||
| He cares that you know we don't we don't anger people too much that we do this slowly and incrementally and Kavanaugh to a lesser extent and Barrett to a lesser extent are in that chiefy camp but make make no mistake this is certainly a six to three constitutionalist Supreme Court and that is because President Trump transformed that Supreme Court and elections matter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's more coming. | ||
| Let's go back for our audience that maybe doesn't trade stocks or not involved in capital markets, don't deal with the SEC. | ||
| Why are the alphabet agencies, when we talk about the administrative state, we're talking about expansion of powers of cabinet. | ||
| of the cabinet officers in the Department of Agriculture, Interior, all that. | ||
| But as importantly, you're talking about these alphabet agencies that have kind of come out of nowhere and metastasized to really drive the leviathan. | ||
| For the average schmo in the streets that doesn't trade stocks, why is this administrate, why is the SEC case important in their lives? | ||
| Yeah, because these SEC bureaucrats purport to regulate Wall Street, right? | ||
| And they do this through what they think is an independent agency. | ||
| If you're an executive branch agency, and you think you're independent of the President of the United States, who's elected to run the executive branch, then your agency is unconstitutional. | ||
| We'll get there, eventually, over the next 20 years. | ||
| But the bigger problem is these agencies were set up to be insulated from accountability. | ||
| They were set up to be insulated from the President of the United States in Congress and courts, and that's the very definition of tyranny. | ||
| Not only are they taking power that the federal government does not have under the Constitution, | ||
| they have consolidated all of that power into people who are not accountable to the American | ||
| people, namely the President of the United States and our elected members of Congress. | ||
| And I would say this, that they've done this on purpose because it's hard to legislate. | ||
| It's intentionally hard to legislate. | ||
| That's what our founders wanted because legislation takes away our liberties. | ||
| And so if you're going to legislate, you need to have the House pass it. | ||
| You need to have a supermajority in the Senate usually pass it and the President has to sign it. | ||
| Well you could bypass all that if you're a leftist and just set up an administrative agency with the Tony Fauci's of the world and they're not accountable to anyone and they can write their own laws and they can enforce their own laws and they can adjudicate Their own laws, and then they get Chevron deference. | ||
| Even if a judge disagrees that the SEC or one of these other unconstitutional agencies is grabbing too much power, as long as a court says, yeah that seems reasonable, then we're supposed to defer to them under Chevron. | ||
| So on MSNBC, CNN, New York Times, everything, all they're doing is hitting, this is the radicalization, the Trumpification of the court to really, you know, destroy the government and they're going to take apart the government where Project 2025 and Bannon and these J6ers couldn't do, the radical court is now going to do. | ||
| That's what makes yesterday most disturbing. | ||
| Can you go back and just set the table? | ||
| How big were the stakes? | ||
| In this Missouri case, particularly as our audience feeds on information, they love information, they want to immerse themselves in information. | ||
| Why was yesterday such an important case and why did the Supreme Court look like it blinked? | ||
| It just didn't want to handle it pre a 2024 election, if I could be so bold, sir. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, look, I would say this. | ||
| I don't think it's as big of a loss as people think because I don't think they decided the case on them. | ||
| There's some merits to the case because of how they looked at standing. | ||
| But this is not over. | ||
| And I don't think people should say, OK, we're done. | ||
| Big Tech can censor, silence, de-platform, and cancel us. | ||
| This is far from over. | ||
| I think that the three The three, I'll be kind here, the three conservatives who joined the three liberal hens in a six to three decision and said that, hey, it's okay that Joe Biden and his misinformation and disinformation czars are censoring, silencing, deplatforming and canceling doctors who ended up being right on COVID. | ||
| I mean, think about this. | ||
| How many people unnecessarily got locked up and died? | ||
| Because of these bogus COVID measures by Tony Fauci. | ||
| Because Tony Fauci was trying to cover up the fact that he funded COVID in the Wuhan lab illegally. | ||
| He lied about it. | ||
| He covered it up. | ||
| He purged himself in front of Congress. | ||
| And then they put Tony Fauci in charge of the response to the disaster. | ||
| that he created this pandemic he created that killed millions of people and destroyed the entire world's economy and destroyed our lives and then if you question this little mad scientist this corrupt little monster that you get you get you get canceled from facebook and i i got kicked off of twitter twice for questioning tony fauci i worked with 20 tony fauci over 20 years ago right i know what a little bastard this guy is and then you're gonna have some you know some A trans weirdo with purple hair in the Biden White House censor you? | ||
| Hell no! | ||
| Wake up, Amy Coney Barrett and Kavanaugh and the Chief Justice. | ||
| I know that she's a rattled law professor and, you know, Kavanaugh and the Chief Justice live in Chevy Chase and, you know, maybe at the Chevy Chase Country Club where they're still wearing COVID masks and flying their Ukraine flags. | ||
| Maybe this is what they think is normal. | ||
| We're trying to save Kavanaugh from assassination. | ||
| Come on, brother. | ||
| No. | ||
| Real quickly, you're going to be there. | ||
| We've had three, but we still got 10 or 11 to go. | ||
| Are they signaling right now they're going to put out any more today, or are they telling you that they're going to go into next week and drop some of maybe even the bigger ones that won't be tomorrow, Mike? | ||
| I know you're speculating, but what's your educated guess? | ||
| Well, I'm on the air, so I haven't had a chance to look at if other cases have come out. | ||
| One more has come out. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| In some cases, no one cares about. | ||
| But I would say this, that the fact that the Supreme Court has not set another, they had a conference last Thursday where they meet in private and talk about these cases. | ||
| They have not set another conference. | ||
| So they didn't set a conference this week. | ||
| And there's nothing set yet for next week, and so the fact that they have not set another conference indicates to me that they're done. | ||
| They're just waiting to put out these opinions. | ||
| I could be wrong, usually I'm not, but I would imagine that all the cases are going to come out tomorrow. | ||
| It could bleed into next week, but I'll tell you what, the end of June is like a high holiday around the Supreme Court. | ||
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They want to get the hell out of town. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Hang on for a second, Mike. | ||
| We're gonna come right back to you. | ||
| We'll figure out what the Supreme Court's doing. | ||
| If not, we'll get you over here to the studio. | ||
| Mike Davis, the intrepid viceroy of D.C., or the soon-to-be viceroy of D.C. | ||
| on the afternoon of 20 January 2025, is with us at the Supreme Court. | ||
| Much more going on. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
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back in the war room in just a moment. | |
| Okay, can we go back? | ||
| Another case has dropped to the Supreme Court. | ||
| This one kind of got previewed last night, inadvertently, quote-unquote, online. | ||
| Another big one. | ||
| Mike Davis, you're there. | ||
| Idaho, abortion, emergency services, what do you got? | ||
| So this is the case where after the Dobbs decision, and there's no federal constitutional right to an abortion, obviously everyone's known that for 50 years, it's just a made up right in Roe that the Supreme Court finally said this is an issue for the states. | ||
| What they are doing now is they're trying to use EMTALA, a federal statute that deals with emergency medicine, to resurrect a federal right to abortion. | ||
| And the Supreme Court granted certs on an Idaho case dealing with this because abortion activists in Idaho didn't like the fact that Idaho has largely outlawed abortion. | ||
| The Supreme Court granted the case and then the Supreme Court just dismissed the case | ||
| and said that we should not have granted the case. | ||
| It's just another punt. | ||
| So that's where we are on this. | ||
| But hang on real quick, the left, because number one, how did this get leaked? | ||
| Mike, this is the Supreme Court of the United States, and I've got some pattern recognition here. | ||
| Anything associated with abortion gets illegally leaked. | ||
| So I'm not buying that this inadvertently got set up on their website. | ||
| Am I being too cynical on this, brother? | ||
| I have to be careful about this because I actually know the people in the PIO office. | ||
| I don't know who's in there now. | ||
| I know that Mark Joseph Stern's spouse used to work for the PIO. | ||
| That spouse has since moved on to a different job because I exposed this spouse and what a partisan hack this spouse is. | ||
| I don't know who they've hired in the PIO now. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Look, I think it's very fair to say it's amazing that it's these abortion cases that magically leak out of the Supreme Court. | ||
| You can say what you said. | ||
| I don't disagree with it. | ||
| I don't agree with it. | ||
| So here I am. | ||
| No, OK, fine. | ||
| I'm just I'm just noticing. | ||
| OK, now, so the MSNBC, CNN, The Times, WaPo, they're all saying this was high politics because they want to take the heat off Trump and they want to take the heat off MAGA and they want to take the heat off the conservative movement in the run up to 2024 by kind of giving them a little thing, giving them a taste. | ||
| on abortion, yet they've got other cases that are teed up that are coming that will even crush abortion rights even more. | ||
| Is that just left-wing madness on MSNBC? | ||
| Yeah, I know the Chief Justice and I've never seen him wear a MAGA hat. | ||
| So I don't think that that's the case, that there are a bunch of Trump cheerleaders inside the Supreme Court. | ||
| I think that's kind of one of those crazy conspiracy theories that they always accuse Trump supporters of having. | ||
| That's utter insanity. | ||
| I think they took this case and realized that maybe they're going to make the case law worse by deciding this case. | ||
| They have discretionary review, meaning they don't have to take cases generally, and they dismiss cases if they shouldn't have taken the case. | ||
| It doesn't happen very often. | ||
| It happens a couple times a term, though. | ||
| So the headline today, if you want to signal not the noise, is that Trump's election in 2016 really led to a intellectual revolution and really action-oriented on deconstructing the administrative state, led by essentially a legal scholar or a judge that brings a big brain to this, Neil Gorsuch. | ||
| And today, and yesterday, shows you that the deconstruction of the administrative state is not simply It's an ongoing project at the court, but it's uniting what you call the moderates with the conservatives. | ||
| It seems like something that can unite the center and the right of the court. | ||
| Am I incorrect in any of that? | ||
| Yes, other than I wouldn't call them moderates. | ||
| I would say the institutionalist, or I would say the coward sometimes, the institutionalist versus the constitutionalist. | ||
| The originalist. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Justice Gorsuch, my former boss, is certainly the tip of the spear. | ||
| On all this, and you have to remember with the court, they're incremental with the three institutions. | ||
| With the Chief Justice, Kavanaugh, and Barrett. | ||
| And as the law changes, and the politics change, they feel more comfortable moving more and more and more. | ||
| And that's why the Article 3 project is doing what we're doing, is to make sure that the politics is right. | ||
| Because these judges have lifetime tenure, they have How do people get to Article 3? | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| to care about the politics, but I know a lot of federal judges all over the country, and | ||
| providing political cover for tough decisions very much helps. | ||
| How do people get to Article 3? | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| Because you've been at the tip of the spear of this for many years, beginning in the Trump | ||
| first term. | ||
| Yeah, article3project.org. | ||
| Article number 3 project dot org. | ||
| You can take action there, you can follow us on social media, and you can donate there. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Is Posovic over there hawking that book? | ||
| He's here for the second hour, but he's hawking the book in front of the Supreme Court. | ||
| Doesn't he understand there's certain areas of D.C. | ||
| that are civic, you know, almost the civic high religion. | ||
| You're not supposed to be hawking books outside the Supreme Court. | ||
| Does Poso get that? | ||
| Well, he did take a picture with me and promised to sign the book after I bought two of them, so yes. | ||
| Mike Davis, you're the best. | ||
| See you later in the day. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
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| So the big blockbusters are either going to be tomorrow or Friday. | ||
| A takeaway politically is that The Fischer case, I would actually say Chevron deference. | ||
| It will give President Trump a lot of ammo taking on Biden, this big spending. | ||
| But you got Chevron deference, which is the mac daddy of the administrative state. | ||
| You've got Fischer, which I happen to think We'll be a blockbuster decision, particularly if it goes our way. | ||
| And then you've got the immunity, even unlimited immunity. | ||
| So you have three massive cases. | ||
| It looks like they're holding for tomorrow, and I think it's political not to put them out today. | ||
| Because it can be incorporated into the debate tonight, but not. | ||
| I don't know if it's going to come tomorrow or Monday. | ||
| They haven't made any announcements. | ||
| Normally, they finish by the end of June, unless it's extraordinary. | ||
| And they still have my count. | ||
| They still have, I think, nine. | ||
| We had 13 going in today. | ||
| I'm looking at my trusted associates here. | ||
| So big takeaway. | ||
| Remember, when we talk about the budget, when we talk about spending, when we talk about this new bondage and slavery of federal spending and fiscal and monetary mismanagement, it gets back to feeding the beast, the leviathan. | ||
| A lot of people talk about the leviathan. | ||
| Every politician says we're going to cut government and it never gets cut. | ||
| This is why this two-pronged attack with what we call Project 2025, but all the other groups from Stephen Miller's, you know, American First Legal, to the folks down at Texas, American First Policy, to Russ Folk, all working on putting in folks that'll start to help deconstruct this from the executive. | ||
| In the legislative side, you see up there right now a ton of not just Freedom Caucus, but other people. | ||
| They're sitting there going, how do we start to, on a legislative basis, start to take it apart? | ||
| Using the appropriations process, okay? | ||
| And also, later on, let me have you write something down because it'll be quite big. | ||
| Next year, authorizations. | ||
| Authorizations. | ||
| We've spent all this time on defense authorization. | ||
| We know most of these agencies and most of these cabinet-level departments have not been authorized as they're supposed to be, I think, every five years. | ||
| That is going to get to be a big issue in the future of going back and let's authorize the FBI, let's authorize the DOJ, and let's see how far off they've come. | ||
| The legal part of it is absolutely important because it's been so embedded into federal law. | ||
| So when you want to talk about shrinking the government, when you want to talk about taking down Leviathan, it just can't be talk, it's got to be action, and that's what you're seeing today. | ||
| And where did that action come from? | ||
| Political power. | ||
| This was the great part of the revolution that President Trump brought in. | ||
| This is why people like the MSNBC, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, that have had a grip on the federal judiciary and the federal bench for so long, And they live and breathe this. | ||
| This is more sacred to them than the White House. | ||
| It's more sacred to them than Congress, the judiciaries, everything. | ||
| You know, you see the Andrew Weissmans and these guys on TV all the time. | ||
| They worship here. | ||
| And that is why it's so important. | ||
| This is where our fight is. | ||
| They're going to be going nuts today, and that's with even out the Chevron deference. | ||
| They'll take it, and like Mike Davis said, it's a 20-year project. | ||
| To deconstruct this, but man are we off to a banger start. | ||
| Just couldn't be more excited how this has come together. | ||
| The right justices, the right confirmation process. | ||
| People had every opportunity to wave off and they didn't, so it's really coming together. | ||
| Do we have, maybe I'll wait for the D-block to play Von Hilliard, not Von Hilliard, the | ||
| Time Magazine correspondent. | ||
| I think that's a six minute hit. | ||
| So I think I want to play its entirety. | ||
| Because it's a shout out to the war room posse. | ||
| And here's, so here's what happened last night on MSNBC. | ||
| Alex Wagner went back and she connected us. | ||
| We'd actually done this during the day here, so I'm really impressed that MSNBC did it. | ||
| The Washington Post came out with a unbelievable poll. | ||
| And what they did is they went in because Biden has made this such a centerpiece of his presidency and his argument against Trump. | ||
| And if you've followed what they've been practicing, remember, Biden has been up at Camp David. | ||
| For almost a week now. | ||
| By tonight, it'll be a week. | ||
| And he's running two-a-days. | ||
| Remember in high school football, if you ever played sports, we're running two-a-days? | ||
| They're running two-a-days up there of practice sessions. | ||
| Now, think, a guy's President of the United States. | ||
| Of course, we know he's illegitimate, but he does sleepovers at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. | ||
| That guy needs a week. | ||
| Needs a week to stop doing any work and actually go up there and learn what you're supposed to learn or figure out how they prop you up or jack you up. | ||
| One of the big things they're talking about, and this was on the media yesterday in CNN, is that one of his biggest thing is that he's a protector of democracy and Trump is an anti-democratic fascist. | ||
| And the MAGA mob, right, which has these horrible people like Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon and Alex Jones. | ||
| And Jack Posobiec and Charlie Kirk and Real America's Voice and all these other podcasts, Alex Brusawitz and Laura Loomer and all these crazies continue to feed misinformation and disinformation. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that was the case yesterday. | ||
| Misinformation and disinformation that feed this poor group of basically not terribly bright deplorables into this mob. | ||
| We're the anti-democratic forces. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| We're the ones that fight to make sure you can't have warrantless FISA, that you can't use your jackboots on the FBI to kick down doors of anybody. | ||
| Forget that we fight for that, for liberty and freedom every day. | ||
| It's, you know, it gets back to, you know, Maxine Walters yesterday when they caught her lying. | ||
| And this is Laura Loomer's group. | ||
| They caught her lying about President Trump. | ||
| If he's reelected, millions of people are going to die. | ||
| She says it all the time to scare people. | ||
| Her response was, I never said that. | ||
| What I said is Bannon got to him and, you know, he's talking to Bannon and Bannon telling him to play the race card. | ||
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That's the old school. | |
| That's the way they used to do it when you only had a couple of TV networks, maybe one or two cable channels, and a couple of big papers. | ||
| That can't work now. | ||
| Didn't work with Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Remember she came off the beach? | ||
| Uh, to go to Reno when I took over, I was running Breitbart, took over the Trump campaign and they had the Reno speech and, you know, alt-right and white nationalists and white supremacists. | ||
| And I sat there with the team, I go, hey, if this is what she's going to talk about for the last hundred days, she's going to talk about that. | ||
| And President Trump's going to talk about bringing jobs back, sealing the border, stopping illegal aliens from competing for jobs against African-Americans and Hispanic families. | ||
| And we go up to the upper Midwest, we talk about how China's gutted, how Wall Street, working with China and Big Tech, have gutted all the high-value manufactured arms. | ||
| I think, I bet the American people might go for that. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| Spoiler alert, they did. | ||
| Merrick Garland ain't on the Supreme Court, and Hillary Clinton never got to the Oval Office. | ||
| Thank God in heaven. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It was a tight one. | ||
| Big Electoral College win. | ||
| But it was tight. | ||
| We know it was tight. | ||
| We knew we were over the target. | ||
| But this is what upsets them. | ||
| This Washington Post poll, and only Alex Wagner over at MSNBC had the guts to put it up. | ||
| The Washington Post went out and did a poll of where this election is going to be decided in the swing states. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| President Trump wins on protecting democracy. | ||
| And if you look at the crosstabs underneath, among I think it's independent voters, it's a blowout. | ||
| That is a shocker. | ||
| An absolute shocker. | ||
| And you know why? | ||
| The little guy out there knows President Trump's got his back. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
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| ...and urged the high court to deny that request. | ||
| But for a man who could possibly be reporting to prison this Monday, Steve Bannon appears sort of unfazed. | ||
| In a new interview, he tells Time magazine reporter Eric Cortalesa, I don't fear this at all. | ||
| I'm a political prisoner. | ||
| Cordelessa writes that Bannon is attempting to rally an audience he calls an army of the awakened to sustain his anti-establishment crusade. | ||
| By playing the martyr, Bannon hopes to elevate his brand of burn-it-all-down populism ahead of the presidential election. | ||
| Joining me now is Eric Cordelessa, national politics reporter for Time magazine. | ||
| Eric, thanks for joining me tonight. | ||
| I mean, my first question is the sort of Understanding he has about being sidelined in the months leading up to this presidential election, given what you write about, the real leadership role he plays in the MAGA movement. | ||
| You write, unlike other MAGA media personalities who largely seem to follow Trump's lead, Bannon can rightly claim influence over the movement. | ||
| So what are his prison plans? | ||
| Well, I think that Bannon sees his prison sentence as an opportunity to fortify support for him as a martyr for the cause, and he's going to try and capitalize on that as much as he can in the days leading up to him reporting for prison in a Connecticut penitentiary. | ||
| And he's going to try and lay the groundwork for this anti-establishment crusade that he believes can help deliver the White House for Donald Trump, where he can unrestrained embark on the right-wing nationalist populist agenda that he's promising. | ||
| I think in prison, Bannon plans to spend his time in the library following the news voraciously, communicating with his associates, so that he can still have a role in shaping messaging going into the election. | ||
| Yeah, he told you, you think I'm going to come out and be prison ripped? | ||
| No, I have a lot of work to do. | ||
| So he's not going to be pumping iron in the yard. | ||
| He's going to be continuing on with his messaging and missives. | ||
| Eric, talk to me a little bit about what you saw behind the scenes at Bannon's lair in terms of his consumption of media and his battle strategy, his planning for battle, if you will, his strategizing. | ||
| Well, you know, I spent some time with Bannon recently during a Saturday morning recording of his podcast at his Capitol Hill townhouse, once known by all as the Breitbart Embassy, and, you know, it's a bit of what you would imagine from the popular Understanding of Bannon, the imagination of Bannon. | ||
| You know, it's cluttered, it's sun-deprived, it's full of all these Bannon curiosities and tchotchkes, including, you know, shrines to MAGA icons like Peter Navarro and even a bust of Bannon himself. | ||
| And, you know, Bannon is... He watches MSNBC religiously, by the way, and he is really monitoring who he sees as the opposition in the information war. | ||
| In order to build up MAGA as a social movement as much as he can, so that it can have the greatest influence throughout the next couple months, leading up to when voters will cast ballots. | ||
| But also, if Trump wins, he wants to see these kinds of ideas be imposed. | ||
| You know, hostility to immigration, hostility to free trade, and an aversion to foreign entanglement. | ||
| He's really trying to build the infrastructure for a Trump revolution. | ||
| What I think is a development, at least if not actually surprising, is the handshake between Republican establishment leadership and the cause of Steve Bannon. | ||
| I wonder what your impressions were of the work that Speaker of the House Mike Johnson did today on behalf of Steve Bannon effectively. | ||
| You know, distancing Congress from the work of the January 6th Committee so as to negate Bannon's contempt of Congress conviction. | ||
| What is the relationship he has with that kind of wing of the Republican Party, which is by no means moderate but is not the wing of Marjorie Taylor Greene? | ||
| Well, I think it goes to show just how effective Bannon has been at transforming the Republican Party into sort of the political wing of the MAGA movement. | ||
| Through War Room, through his allied MAGA media personalities, he's really created a fighting machine, as a top aide to President Trump told me, to go against Republicans who are not in line with Trump. | ||
| He has built a media ecosystem that can exert pressure and you have people who work in tandem to coerce | ||
| Republicans and try to dismantle the old guard Republican establishment. I think | ||
| this shows just how effective he has been at doing that really since | ||
| January 6th when MAGA as a movement has only grown in size and strength. I'll say I'm | ||
| glad that Steve Bannon's watching MSNBC. | ||
| where we watch a religiously. | ||
| Thank you, Alex Wagner. | ||
| I think between her open at the open of her show and then having Eric, the Time magazine, and Eric's the guy that did the interview with President Trump that was the cover that was so controversial where President Trump just saying, hey, here's, you know, here's what we're going to do in my second term. | ||
| And of course, the mainstream media is absolutely shocked. | ||
| She lays it out right there. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| What are those segments about? | ||
| They're about you. | ||
| This show is, you know, anybody can do this. | ||
| Anybody can stand in front of a microphone and get great people on and talk about it and ask questions. | ||
| The most important thing is this is a movement. | ||
| And this is the information warfare kind of nexus of at least part of that movement. | ||
| And we're proud to be not just conservatives, we're proud to be right-wing. | ||
| Because the right wing, and let me just say right here, look at this in my favorite paper, the Financial Times of London, right? | ||
| Look at the headline right there. | ||
| French far-right leader vows to fight cultural battle against Islamism. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| The guys are going to pray. | ||
| That's Bardella, the 28-year-old leader. | ||
| French far-right leader vows to fight a cultural battle on the front page of the Financial Times of London. | ||
| And why is that? | ||
| Because they know we're ascendant, and they know in France they're going to win, and they know that Nigel Farage is essentially going to become the opposition leader, and he's going to win. | ||
| And this is so enormously powerful. | ||
| They understand President Trump's going to win. | ||
| Today one of the top pollsters has out that he's shifted from a toss-up that now two-thirds, one-third Trump odds. | ||
| 66% chance for Trump odds, and he goes through the battleground states, he goes through the issues, he looks at the crosstabs. | ||
| Simultaneously, the Washington Post has put out a poll that shows that President Trump is winning the argument. | ||
| Now think about that for a second. | ||
| After all the media firestorm, after the J6 committee, after all of it, all of it, President Trump is winning on the topic of democracy, which is the central organizing principle, at least they tell us, of the Biden illegitimate regime. | ||
| If I have to go to prison, if I end up going to prison, but it's brought the Republican House to now have to confront And they got some heroes over there trying to do it to confront the reign of terror of Nancy Pelosi and what she did and what she allowed to have happen and what the legacy is of her last speakership. | ||
| And so be it. | ||
| We have a deep, hard, tough, long fight to save this republic. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| A long fight. | ||
| There's going to be a lot more people They're coming down a lot harder than they are on Stephen K. Bennett. | ||
| Always remember that. | ||
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