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June 25, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3710: Corruption In Arizona
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eric prince
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steve bannon
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caroline wren
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jake tapper
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
steve bannon
Okay, Tuesday, 25 June, the Year of the Lord 2024.
By the way, Gina Sobota is one of the best.
That's why she's there.
She wants urgency.
Of course, we must have urgency.
So, Caroline Renn, real quickly, just summarize again where we stand on this.
And we know it's not, at first, and I, hey, for the first 24 hours, I kind of, with the team, I said, is this thing real or not?
It's one of these things that pops up.
You got to make sure it's real.
But then when you see the obfuscation, and you see people like the FBI, and you see the Washington Post even mention it, trying to get ahead of it.
There's something here that does not meet the eye.
And bottom line is, Maricopa County has rubbed our nose in it.
Steve Ruecker, the Gates guy, that entire crowd out there.
Have rubbed the nose of Carrie Lake and the MAGA movement and Trump and Boris and everybody.
Oh, you guys are wingnuts.
This is the most secure, you know, this is as bad as the guy that worked at DHS.
This is the most secure place.
We're Fort Knox.
You know, you can't get in here.
Nothing can happen.
And now you see this.
So just give me a quick summary.
Uh, Caroline, and then I'm going to ask Gina once again, what action are we taking today?
I'd go over and I just have people flood the zone over at the prosecutor's offices.
Just go and sit in and say, hey, we have a citizen's complaint.
We want people, we want people to start being investigated and arrested on this.
Go ahead, ma'am.
caroline wren
Well, remember what happened in 2022, what happened to Cary Lake?
61% of the tabulators in Maricopa County failed on Election Day, effectively shutting down Election Day for six hours.
We've been suing over this, over this tabulator problem, over and over again, and they just keep telling us, oh, there's no way there could have been some coordinated, advanced effort to, you know, have these machines malfunction.
Now, here we are, like, hello, this 27-year-old kid that used to work at a left-wing NGO just infiltrated Maricopa County.
Yes, he was caught, but still, he was able to leave with two separate key fobs, one to enter the building, the other one to actually change the tabulator settings.
He brought them home.
And the question we should all be asking is, who paid him to do this?
I'm sorry, but this individual, I believe, I found out was convicted from his home in 2020.
He was arrested for theft in 2023.
So clearly someone like that can be compromised.
So it is my belief that someone paid him from one of these left-wing NGOs
to go get those two security things, bring them back to his house,
and who was he going to give them to and who was paying him?
That's what I think we should all be looking into.
I think there's a tremendous sense of urgency.
Remember that ballots drop in the Arizona primary in one week.
This is one week out from when the ballots dropped for our primary.
So what is going on here?
Everyone should be on top of this and reporters need to do their jobs and go look into this.
I mean, if this was happening on the other side, on the right, I could tell you what, ProPublica would already have like 10 reporters on the ground at this guy's house.
steve bannon
Calling Calling Vaughn Hilliard.
Calling Vaughn Hilliard.
This is your beat, bro.
Where are you?
I expect to see this on Nicole Wallace this afternoon, a big breaking news thing of Vaughn Hilliard.
Last thing, who, the FBI, and how does this guy end up with lots of social media and then now he's only got Truth Social?
How did that happen?
How did that magically happen?
caroline wren
It makes no sense.
He is still in prison right now.
He's still being held in a jail cell because they won't give him bond because of his past conviction.
So no one can explain to me how all of his social media sites have been wiped with the exception of a Truth Social account, which is a bizarre account.
I went through it.
And so someone did it.
I don't believe it was him unless he has a cell phone in the jail cell.
steve bannon
Okay, which is supposed to be a bozo no-no.
So, once again, Gina, you're beloved because you've got this gig, because you're a fighter on this very topic.
So, where are we going to go on this today?
unidentified
I need help.
So hit me at AZGOP.com.
Hit the donate button.
I'm going to have to get my own legal team involved immediately if I don't get a response from RNC.
It's 8.04 a.m.
in Arizona.
They asked for 26 minutes.
So if they're not willing to put a person on the ground filing a writ of mandamus today, then we're going to have to go our own way and get it done.
And we will.
Upper right corner on that.
steve bannon
A writ of mandamus.
Okay, let's everybody pile into the AZGOP and let's get their back and we'll make sure the folks over there aren't seen.
Let's just get coordinated, folks.
Not pointing fingers.
Let's get it done today.
This is a big one.
Thank you, ma'am.
Gina Swoboda, what's your personal, where do they follow you, Gina?
unidentified
At AZGOP at Gina Swoboda.
Hit me on Twitter.
Thank you, guys.
steve bannon
Thank you, ma'am.
Caroline Wren, where do we follow you?
You come in a little hot sometimes.
caroline wren
A little bit.
At Caroline Wren on all the different socials and the FBI hasn't wiped mine yet so you can probably still find me.
steve bannon
Paula, we got Utah today.
Where are we standing with our mayor?
I think President Trump endorsed our mayor, right?
Where are we standing with that?
Is the Romney forces going to win this?
caroline wren
Everyone has, but you know, he's been outspent like 10 to 1 by this John Curtis guy who all the McCarthy and Romney money, all that's coming in behind him.
So I don't know.
Everyone in Utah has got to get out and vote today and you have to vote for Trent Staggs for U.S.
Senate.
We desperately need him in there, and not the Mitt Romney-endorsed candidate.
steve bannon
Caroline Wren will follow that throughout the day.
Boebert's going to be with us this afternoon.
There's a lot happening in the War Room this afternoon, too.
Caroline Wren, thank you, ma'am.
caroline wren
Thank you.
steve bannon
I'm honored to have—look who just rolled in.
By the way, you look like a million bucks.
You're losing weight.
How much weight you lost?
unidentified
About 20 pounds.
steve bannon
How did you do that?
You gonna share, you gonna help a brother out here?
You gonna share a secret?
Not that I couldn't drop, not that I couldn't use to drop 20.
You look amazing!
unidentified
How much cut out sugar?
steve bannon
I realize... As you just, as he just hands back the Altoids.
eric prince
Had a mint.
steve bannon
Had a mint.
Hang on.
What do you mean you cut out sugar?
You're not a big, you're not a big sweet.
I've eaten with you a lot of times.
I've never seen out in the camp when you got the knife, you got the soup on the knife.
I didn't know you're a big sweets guy.
eric prince
Doughnuts, cookies.
steve bannon
Oh you are?
So you got... Can you hear him?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, so you're a sweets guy?
You'll eat a donut?
You'll pack away Krispy Kreme?
eric prince
No, not A. The whole carton.
That's the problem.
steve bannon
They're so good, aren't they?
They're so good.
eric prince
I realized, you know, I understand people that struggle with alcohol addiction because I realized I had a sugar addiction.
It was terrible.
So I just stopped.
steve bannon
I think that's why people stop drinking.
They gain weight because after they get a sugar craving, you're packing away the donuts.
Not that I would know anything about that.
You.
I want to talk about Ukraine, the whole world, as through the eyes of our top mercenary.
Our soldier of fortune is now on the worm.
But I got to talk to you just about the madness, because now they're all over us every day.
This is all about vengeance.
This is about revenge.
Just the deep state, the administrative state, are taking it apart, and particularly Having those investigations, one has to have, to make sure this never happens again.
It's not going to stop until we make it stop.
You agree with that?
unidentified
100%.
eric prince
An object in motion tends to remain in motion until it's met by a greater force.
unidentified
See?
steve bannon
Went right to the laws of thermodynamics.
So tell me, tell me Newton's Law.
You're very Newtonian about this.
So what then is to be done?
Particularly, and obviously there are a lot of people that are touting you for a senior... First of all, we have to win.
Okay, fine.
Let's put a pin in that.
We've got to get back to that, because I'm wagging the dog.
But once we win, walk me through what has to happen with the Deep State.
And I'm not here to say that Eric Prince will be on the short list to head the CIA or the DNI.
No, look... Because I'm getting TV rights for the confirmation hearing.
Can you imagine Eric Prince's confirmation hearing?
I guess you have to be over the National Security Council.
Would you be National Security Advisor for President Trump?
You gave him the best plan in April and May of 17.
eric prince
Which would have prevented the debacle, the national embarrassment that was Afghanistan.
steve bannon
Let me give you the inside baseball.
Eric Prince wrote an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal.
eric prince
Per your instructions.
steve bannon
Who dat?
So Eric Prince wrote a, can't believe Gigio published it, you wrote an amazing op-ed for the Wall Street Journal back in, I believe, in May of 2017.
That's right.
You then, as is wont to happen when it's in the Wall Street Journal, you were carpet bombed all over Fox on every show to explain it.
It was very straightforward about kind of going back to a 19th century model that you felt had to take place in Afghanistan to do an appropriate transition over a number of years for withdrawal of American combat troops.
Correct.
And to immediately go to what the problem was.
I've seen a lot of firestorms in the White House, but baby, McMasters and these guys, I mean, this was the system.
unidentified
This was a full systems reject.
steve bannon
They melted down.
And here's the reason.
What Prince is so good at, he says, hey, remember we had these side pockets.
and they had this $60 billion a year as a defense side pocket.
eric prince
The Overseas Contingency Operations Fund.
steve bannon
Overseas Contingency Operations that was re-topped off every year with $60 billion.
This is Lindsey Graham and these guys played around with.
This is their slush fund.
And Eric Prince goes, hey, you know, if you go back and look at this, they sucked down
about $60 billion a year every year to fund this thing like magic.
And you should be able to do it max at $10 billion.
And you actually walked, I think, $10 to $15.
eric prince
No, I got it down to about $5.
steve bannon
Yeah, I said that's too, they'll choke on that.
But even at $15, you had it, but not just that, you took out combat troops, we had peace, you go and you're still killing bad guys.
The system, we ran it up the flagpole and they did not salute, is the way we would say it?
eric prince
No.
I'd say they mooned it.
It was sad.
Even Mattis said my analysis of the problems were right.
He just could not accept the fact that it would be done by contractors.
People love veterans.
They hate the idea of contractors.
steve bannon
Well, and the problem is you have to do it with contractors, right?
You have to get the combat troops out.
eric prince
It was the only way we could provide the continuity, because the big problem that the DoD had was they had been there for 20 years, but they'd really been there for 30, Nine-month rotations.
steve bannon
Exactly.
Tell people about that.
It's not the same army the entire time.
eric prince
We went through 17 or 18 different commanders while we were there, and when you send troops in, they might be in an area for six months, nine months, maybe a year, and then they rotate out and they never come back to that same area.
So you lose all the continuity, all the area knowledge of that specific area.
And Afghanistan is very much a valley-by-valley, town-by-town fight.
The advantage that contractors can provide is they can pay the guy to be in for 60 or 90 days, go home for 30, back in, but go to the same village, to the same base, meet with the same people, so there is that brotherhood of arms, that continuity with the Afghans.
All I was trying to replicate was what worked for 250 years next door in India with the East India Company, where it was 95% locals, 5% expats, and that worked.
steve bannon
It's Eric Prince as Robert Clive.
But it worked!
I'm sorry, Afghanistan needed a small British army with the British East India Company that paid off the Mughals.
unidentified
Afghanistan needed Robert Clive.
steve bannon
What lesson, we've got a couple minutes to this segment.
Importantly for today, what lessons in dealing with the deep state, and not the administrative part of the state of it, but really when you talk about the defense, intelligence, national security, the legal, what lessons do you derive from your spring and summer of 2017 assault on these guys?
eric prince
In the same way when governments are looking at whether they can privatize trash services or municipal power, electrical power, all the rest, right?
Everyone thinks, well, there's no way that anyone but government can do that.
I'd say the lesson for the next Trump administration needs to be that there needs to be a case for the private sector to make their case.
in these debates so it doesn't have to be in all government all the time because remember if
1969 you said 50 years later the only way the US gets to the International Space Station
Was on Elon Musk's rocket or a Russian rocket you would have been laughed out of Johnson Space Center, right?
But the idea of what is inherently governmental has shifted because of the
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steve bannon
Number one, you mentioned something, and this is why the big scoop we brought last week.
We have three things, you know, the Project 2025 and others that people are working on, the Deconstruction of the Administrative State, which the powers that be are freaked out about.
That is, we have 3,000 political appointees that hit the deck plates running day one.
There's 1,000 a Senate confirmed.
Okay, take a while because Mitch McConnell and that crowd over there are going to hang you up for Trump fever like they did last time.
So that's 4,000.
That's to oversee a bureaucracy of about 2.5 million, 2.25, 2.5 million federal employees and a military, this is the civilian aspect, the military of 2.5 million.
But, the government doesn't run like that.
The government actually has, and nobody spent the time to go dig this out, the government, you can't run a seven trillion dollar institution with just two and a half million people.
They actually have 18 million contractors.
Now, 10 million of those contractors are the IT guys and the people doing the buildings, because they've tried to offload as much as they can to get away from pensions.
But, when you do the analysis, it looks like 8 million are kind of either SES or administrators, you know, all the way from the grand dunes all the way up to something that does a managerial function or a coordinating function.
That, and this is why the town is freaking out, we're going to go through all of that.
Why should they not be MACA?
Why should that not be, hey, why not, you know, we're like Andrew Jackson coming to town with the populist movement.
eric prince
Spoil system.
steve bannon
I think our pitch is more effective and more effective.
Maybe it has the president's vision.
eric prince
If elections have consequences, which they always tell us, then the government should be Along with the politicians should be accountable to the voters.
steve bannon
So Booz Allen and all the McKenzie and Booz Allen and all these guys and all those all the all the firms that dumped on MAGA and and and ripped on MAGA and MAGA are a bunch of barbarians and MAGA this and MAGA that.
All your contracts are going to get reviewed and I am of the opinion.
That if they are not with the president's program, they got to go.
And I mean, go back to social media, interview them.
I'm not saying do a star chamber.
Far from me ever to recommend that.
But I think you got to do real due diligence on who you have.
eric prince
I would say you don't even have to do a review of that.
I would.
The default should be a 70 to 80 percent reduction of all of them anyway, because it's largely useless.
steve bannon
Exactly.
eric prince
Here's the thing.
COVID and COVID really exposed the bureaucracy.
steve bannon
It's an empty town.
eric prince
It's an empty town.
You still have 70 or 80 percent doing remote work.
steve bannon
Folks throughout the country, throughout the world, we're not kidding you.
The little restaurants, the bodegas, the little newsstands, they're all gone.
You go down now into the heart of official Washington, it's like from a science fiction movie.
There's nobody moving around.
70 or 80 percent of the bureaucrats have refused to come back to work.
eric prince
Exactly.
Very simple.
If you're not essential personnel, you're not essential personnel.
steve bannon
You're telling us about that, Sean.
eric prince
I think the good Lord will reward President Trump in late January or early February next year and provide a blizzard.
When the not essential personnel don't show up, it's very simple.
steve bannon
Now they take days off for, you know, the heat dome.
The whole thing in the East Coast now is this heat dome.
Street name, summer.
It's absurd.
They're taking heat days off like snow days.
eric prince
The whole area is madness.
The pay, how many days are actually supposed to be here?
It's ridiculous.
Absolutely rationalize the hell out of it and send it to other parts of the country.
steve bannon
Here's how I'm going to judge whether we're getting our job.
Here's my new indicator, the Prince indicator.
When Eric's estate out in Middleburg, the estate out there with the swells, when that drops 10%, In value, from $100 million, that drops to $90 million.
That's when I know we're working.
That's when I know we're done.
Hang on.
Hang on.
Nature of War.
I want to do Nature of War first, then I want to get to Ukraine and other hotspots.
Nature of War, not just by drones, but AI, drones, and other technologies.
eric prince
Look, that what happened in Ukraine, the necessity of innovation that smart Ukrainians did in their garages by improvising small drones with a charge that they were Attaching to it or carrying an RPG being able to fly that into a tank Now even in a high electronic warfare jammed environment has been the single greatest adaptation change of weaponry I would say since you went from spears and longbows to muskets
steve bannon
Wow, that big a deal.
Let me go back to something.
Gulf War changed everything with precision bombing, correct?
eric prince
It was the first time that we really showed precision bombing.
Because, you know, after World War II, the first strategic offset, like how are we going to outgun the Soviets, was nuclear weapons.
Tonnage.
Then, the U.S.
said, we're going to do precision weapons.
And you really saw that in 1991, and then especially in 2003-4-5.
steve bannon
In the Gulf War, and then later, precision bombing, put it right on the target, the Schwarzkopf would have the things.
Then, in fact, that's when unrestricted warfare, the Chinese Communist Party, those two brilliant colonels, the book starts off in the Gulf War saying, we may never have the technology to defeat the West.
We have to have unrestricted political, economic warfare to destroy them from within.
Because in all likelihood, they're too far advanced than us.
Now, cut to the dawning of this new age, because the Ukrainians are obviously very entrepreneurial, right?
But it's about the technology and the ability even to do it.
That's why when Rumsfeld talked about the revolution in military affairs, Yes.
On September 10th, on the eve, when he mentioned, hey, there's $2.3 trillion of assets we can't even find.
Remember the ones that they've made such a... people have made a very big deal about that.
His thing was, and he said, the enemy we have of United States security is within this building.
He was saying it's the deep... the administrative state... Permanent state.
The permanent state.
And Brumfield said, my job is... because he didn't see a war on the horizon thanks to the intelligence services that happened the next day.
That was supposed to be the Revolutionary Military Affairs was to make the the Marine Corps like the Marine Corps.
They were going to shrink your army is going to be like the Marine Corps, the Marine Corps are going to be like the Special Forces.
There was going to be dramatic cuts, a totally rethinking of the fleets.
Now cut to today.
Artificial intelligence, quantum computing, the ability of cameras and added with precision weapons we've seen in the Ukraine war.
Uh, something pretty startling, have we not?
eric prince
You're seeing everything from very old school to the newest of the new school, right?
You're seeing absolutely pointless slaughter of artillery duels.
steve bannon
Trench warfare.
eric prince
Trench warfare!
steve bannon
And the queen of battle, artillery.
The Russians know artillery.
eric prince
They do artillery and they're outgunning the Ukrainians, three or four to one.
They're using glide bombs.
Big, cheap, but they strap a precision kit on the front of and they're launching those and they're smashing cities, they're smashing entire buildings with, you know, kind of a P for Plenty, cheap way of releasing energy.
But you're also seeing the thousands and thousands of cheap drones adapted Weaponized and flown into key enemy vehicles or surface-to-air missile systems or whatever.
And the danger is, as that tech proliferates, you're going to see all militaries around the world largely made obsolete because all of it is exceedingly vulnerable to that kind of attack.
steve bannon
This is one of the reasons that even the tanks will get that.
One problem A lot of that technology is American technology.
A lot of that, I think, comes associated with American technicians that probably are there.
Also, the targeting of where that's going.
You're targeting Russian territory.
They even talk about targeting Moscow.
eric prince
They're talking about the bigger ATACMs.
Cheap Chinese or Taiwanese drones.
steve bannon
I hear, at least my sources tell me, they're hitting tank columns, etc., in Russian territory that have not come, they're not outside of Kharkiv, they're not there yet.
That this, that the war has expanded, particularly in a tactical level, with the drones.
The bigger attackoms are in Crimea, hitting the oil facilities, etc.
But it's all, the commonality, at least through the Russian eyes, this is all American technology.
American ingenuity, coupled with the Ukrainians, obviously, are very entrepreneurial in doing this.
eric prince
There was a big strike in the last few days in the Crimea, ATACMS missiles, that was targeting a space communications center, space surveillance system, for the Russians there.
Three or four of those missiles were intercepted, and they came down, and they're cluster munitions, and it came down on a beach area, so there's a bunch of civilians killed.
I can understand the Russians are angry about that.
The war needs to be ended because there's about zero chance that the Ukrainians are going to actually advance their lines and retake those territories.
All we're doing now is chewing up future generations of Ukrainian men.
They should freeze the lines almost like North and South Korea, straighten it up.
steve bannon
Focus on... You mean like a DMZ?
eric prince
A DMZ, exactly.
steve bannon
Because the Korean War, people don't know this, the Korean War is not technically over.
eric prince
Correct, it was a ceasefire.
unidentified
It's a ceasefire.
That's it.
steve bannon
It's a ceasefire.
eric prince
There was never an armistice.
steve bannon
Never an armistice, never a treaty, anything.
eric prince
Which made it really spectacular when Trump actually walked over the border into North Korea.
steve bannon
Yes, and people don't know that.
So, there's a... I wrote a story, I'll try to get it to the night, that just broke, that Keith Kellogg and others have been working with President Trump with a peace proposal.
Is there any possibility Of the Russians buying into anything that has them give up a yard of territory in the Donbass or in Crimea.
eric prince
I think Putin announced he wants Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhia.
Of course, Crimea, they already consider Russian.
And they want to have a plebiscite.
Those four areas, they want to have a plebiscite in 20 years on whether they want to stay Russian or stay Ukrainian.
Kick it down the road.
It seems reasonable.
Here's the thing.
Ukraine does not have enough manpower.
They have corruption issues.
They've just fired a bunch of commanders again for failing.
steve bannon
They've announced now too, Harnwell's got this story, we'll hopefully get to it tomorrow, that they're pressing now for women.
They can't get the young men, so now they're pressing.
Does Zelensky send anything to the front lines?
eric prince
No more.
Enough.
It is immoral for the United States to keep funding a failed effort which just chews up Ukrainians.
And for the Lindsey Grahams of the world that say, well, we took out all this Russian equipment, bullshit.
The Russian military is much better today than when they started this war.
They have gotten significantly smarter.
They have adapted.
Their loitering munitions are quite effective.
What's a loitering?
steve bannon
Tell people what a loitering is.
eric prince
A drone that you send out and it hangs around in circles.
It's a kamikaze drone, basically.
I was at the Saudi defense show in February and saw hundreds of videos at the Russian booths of their stuff, smashing Western equipment, smashing Abrams tanks, and Crusader howitzer systems, and M777s, and that stuff.
They are learning.
If you shot at the Russians with artillery a year and a half ago, it would take them an hour, hour and a half to shoot back.
Now, two to three minutes.
steve bannon
Let's take a short commercial break.
Eric Prince is with us for the hour.
Is that where the Soldiers of Fortune hang out?
Do you go to the things over in Saudi Arabia?
The arm shows?
eric prince
It's good to see what people are doing, Steve.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Huge.
The prosecutor's now lead story on CNN.
They're pushing back on Judge Cannon.
It's going to be a big firestorm about that.
We will cover that in the five o'clock hour.
Also, CNN is buckling on their absolute total control, which is unacceptable, of the debate on Thursday.
We'll get updates on that at five.
unidentified
Bogert's going to join us at five.
steve bannon
At 6, I think I've got Gableman on again about Wisconsin.
We've got to get to the bottom of this, folks.
I know that.
But we're going to have the writer, Arthur Herman.
One of the, not even a historian, I mean, he wrote How the Scots Created the Modern World.
He wrote Forge of Democracy, I think it was.
eric prince
Freedom's Forge.
steve bannon
Freedom's Forge, which was about Detroit.
eric prince
Just amazing.
No, that is a fantastic book on American industry at the dawn of World War II.
This guy's the best.
steve bannon
He's written about McCarthy, he's written about Churchill, he's written about the United States, just an atroid with the Vikings.
I think he's a, I believe I've read every one of his books.
I've been trying to work this for a while, but he's going to be in the studio tonight for the 6 o'clock show.
So what does this mean?
President Trump's coming in.
One of the things is to stop the forever wars.
The one that concerns me most is spinning out of control is not in Taiwan.
The one that seems like it could spin out of control the easiest is the one in Israel.
And today, there's a huge story that BB and the IDF are pivoting now to Hezbollah.
They've been signaling that for a while, but the reasons concern me.
There was, quote, we're done in Gaza.
It's basically done in Gaza.
Correct me if I'm wrong, because you're my one of my big sources.
eric prince
They're still hostages.
steve bannon
Well, the hostages, I...
Hostages are hostages.
That's a different deal.
I'm not so sure how many are alive, and I'm not sure how many are even in shape that they haven't tortured so much.
I'm not trying to be heartless about the hostages.
The military situation, they committed that they were going to take out Hamas's military capability.
That means four combat battalions down in Gaza, in Rafah, and two in Judea, Samaria.
To your best of your knowledge, has that actually taken place?
Have they been... No.
eric prince
Gaza has not been pacified or cleaned up of all of the Hamas presence.
steve bannon
So I'm not missing it, but how can you pivot north and tell people, oh, we're gonna, they say we're gonna, they're gonna, it looks like they're saying we're pulling troops out because they need troops for the north, correct?
eric prince
They very much need troops for the north, but the big threat that they face from the north is the amount of rockets that Hezbollah can... They say 3,000 a day if they hit.
Or more.
steve bannon
Per day.
eric prince
They have 150,000.
Here's the thing, all the rockets that made it to Gaza had to pretty much be smuggled in components and moved in with difficulty.
All the stuff that's in Lebanon was trucked across.
From Iran, through Iraq, through Syria.
So, much easier logistics line.
They have loaded up every cave, crevice, and cavern.
steve bannon
The combat capability.
Is Hezbollah, not pound for pound, one of the best light infantry units in the world?
eric prince
They have trained hard, they're equipped with the very best that Iran can provide them, which is not nothing.
The big problem the Iranians are having, and this goes to what we spoke about last segment, For all this techno-wizardry of Iron Dome and the high-altitude intercepted ballistic missiles, 50% of the loitering munitions made by Iran are getting through and hitting targets inside of Israel.
So it's at the lowest level, that low-level tactical vulnerability is really a problem.
And it's hitting radars, it's hitting vehicles, it's hitting bunkers, and that is a huge problem.
And so the idea that they're going to pivot If you're having that much leakage at the low level and you're at risk of being overwhelmed with rockets, there's going to be serious infrastructure damage in Israel if they go for it.
steve bannon
Israel's advantage in modern times against the Arab armies and the Persian armies have always been close air combat support.
eric prince
It's been air support, yes.
steve bannon
Close combat air support.
Air to mud.
It concerns me about expansion of this war when I see a carrier battle group heading to the eastern Mediterranean in the TIA for that.
Make me feel better.
eric prince
Well, in the Red Sea, the Houthis have completely shut off all shipping.
It's costing Egypt $800 million a month in toll fees.
The U.S.
Navy said they spent a billion dollars worth of missiles shooting down Houthi drones.
Now, that's a wrong number, because that was probably cost basis when they bought those things 20 years ago.
steve bannon
You're saying replacement's billions.
eric prince
It's four or five billion, yes.
steve bannon
To shoot down a bunch of... To shoot down... Basic drones, they're loitering basic drones.
eric prince
Drones, missiles, ballistic missiles.
steve bannon
And the hooties are about as medieval as you can get, correct?
eric prince
Again, it's IRGC officers, Iranian Revolutionary Guard officers, attached with the hooties that are enabling this kind of attack.
steve bannon
Pretty tough hombres.
Took on the Brits, took on a couple of guys.
The actual troops themselves.
eric prince
Yes, but very fixable.
Very, very fixable to people that are serious about fighting.
They're in the business of fixing.
They're in the business of fighting that.
What David Sterling, the founder of the SAS, did in Yemen in 1965 should be replicated.
That's the only way to do that.
steve bannon
Give us that lesson from history.
eric prince
In that case, Egypt actually invaded, deposed the monarch, so the Brits were pissed, the Saudis were pissed.
steve bannon
Because it's all about the Suez Canal.
When you start messing with guys like that, they say, hey, don't mess with us.
eric prince
And so they hired David Sterling and a merry band of men, and they're actually armed by the Israelis, paid by the Saudis, under the Operation Control of the Brits, and they removed them.
They did so well that David Sterling received a medal from the IDF for pinning down so many Egyptian troops that helped them win the Six-Day War.
steve bannon
Unbelievable.
Lessons right now.
Let's go back to our participation in NATO.
We had at one time two carrier battle groups down there.
To keep the Suez Canal open for the EU.
At the top of its game, we had a British frigate, an Italian corvette, in a French destroyer.
That was a total summons, that was a total summon substance of NATO's, and they kept saying it was a joint operation, it's a joint operation.
This is a joke, right?
And why are Americans, my beloved 7th Fleet, out there in the Red Sea, away from the Western Pacific, not patrolling the South China Sea, because we got two carrier battlegroups keeping the Suez Canal open, for the guys at Gestade and at the big ski resorts in Switzerland, sir.
eric prince
Yeah, that's an important point, that they pulled the carrier from the western Pacific region to move it over to the Red Sea, so that the other one can bump back into the Mediterranean to cover Israel's flank.
Yeah, NATO is a joke with no real combat power.
And so it goes to what we said before.
Let the private sector have a seat at the table and provide options because there are very real, legitimate options that can be executed immediately to put the Houthis in a better frame of mind.
steve bannon
Our carrier battle group got taken out of the Western Pacific to go to the North Arabian Sea and Persian Gulf when the hostages were taken at Tehran, when you were in short pants.
Yep.
unidentified
I was only 10.
steve bannon
When you were in short pants, Ensign Bannon, Lieutenant J.G.
Bannon, no.
CNN.
And people should know, there's tons of, you know, we're hammering CNN.
There's other things going on to make sure they don't have control over President Trump.
First of all, I'm not a big fan of this debate because I'm not sure Biden's the Democratic nominee.
I would like President Trump just to not, just to debate the nominee.
He's going to crush the guy.
But CNN, it's, you know, it's a thousand CNN employees versus President Trump.
Now, you've got a bone to pick, too.
eric prince
It's an unfair fight.
steve bannon
It's an unfair fight, exactly.
He's outgunned them already.
eric prince
Exactly.
steve bannon
Talk to me about this other situation with a colleague that you know and about Jake Tapper.
eric prince
After the Afghan debacle brought to us by the Biden administration, there was many people evacuating needy people from From Afghanistan, one of those.
His name is Zach Young and he was completely maligned, libeled by CNN.
They called him a child trafficker.
steve bannon
He was a civilian over there?
eric prince
He was a civilian.
He's a former government employee and he completely maligned and he sued them.
steve bannon
And he was there to help people get out of the country?
eric prince
He was helping people.
steve bannon
Why did they call him a child trafficker?
eric prince
I think it was to cover for a lot of the I think CNN was trying to shift the narrative from military debacle brought to us by the Biden administration to, ooh, these bad people that are evacuating.
steve bannon
Right, out of control of former Trump associates and or guys.
Guys who worked at various branches of the government.
eric prince
And so they completely maligned him, and it's going to trial, and they face huge... It's going to trial.
They've been at this for two years, the trial has, and CNN has lost at every turn.
steve bannon
And CNN has not been able to kill this, or not be able to cut a deal with it.
eric prince
Correct.
steve bannon
And he doesn't want a deal cut.
eric prince
Nope.
steve bannon
He wants... Scalps.
He wants scalps.
And how does Jake Tapper play into this?
eric prince
Jake Tapper was the mouthpiece that aired the knowingly libelous wrong statements.
steve bannon
Knowingly libelous is a pretty big charge.
eric prince
Yes.
And that's the thing of Discovery.
They have emails showing, they say, we're going to get this mother******.
I mean, that level of malice.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Homeschoolers.
eric prince
Sorry.
I was just quoting CNN.
Sorry.
That's quotes from CNN.
steve bannon
That's a quote in their emails.
That we're going to get this guy.
eric prince
Yes.
steve bannon
Wow.
eric prince
That's not really a news organization promoting news.
That's malice.
steve bannon
But this is how they roll.
eric prince
That's how they roll.
I'm excited for them.
I'm hoping justice gets done because the out-of-control media that says and wrecks things, wrecks people, with no consequence is wrong.
steve bannon
Well, this is what they're going to try to do with President Trump on Thursday, right?
You saw what they did.
They dumped Caroline Leavitt, who's as classy and nice as you can get.
They freaked out and just dumped her as press secretary for the campaign yesterday morning at like 7 a.m.
because they couldn't take the fact that she's questioning people like Jake Tapper.
That is a Trump hater.
I mean, I don't know how we got Jake Tapper as the moderator here, but he is somebody
that hates MAGA, hates patriots.
I think he hates this country, but he comes across every, particularly hates President
Trump.
So how can you have a guy like this be your moderator?
They're going to get him on the stand in this case?
eric prince
I believe so.
Jake Tapper?
unidentified
Yes.
eric prince
It's too bad the trial, we're not six months further ahead because Jake Tapper would not be moderating the presidential debate.
steve bannon
Well, I think if there was more exposure about this, he would not be moderating this debate.
I'm so glad you brought it to me.
Before we leave, hot spots around the world.
Taiwan.
How do we stop?
In the words of Benjamin Franklin, a stitch in time saves nine.
Our theory of the case is the third world war has already started.
We're in the early years of it.
And the United States is just going to get sucked in more and more.
How do we stop?
How does President Trump stop us from getting sucked into the third world war and being
put into this thing without having the United States screwed?
eric prince
In the words of Benjamin Franklin, a stitch in time saves nine.
And so there's a lot of things that if the intelligence community were doing its job
or the private sector was allowed to help partner nations effectively, you would, things
would not come so far unwrapped.
steve bannon
Okay, but if my mom had blank, she'd be my uncle.
Okay?
You can't assume that if the intelligence agency's doing their job, number one, their job is suppressing the American people.
That's their job.
The job about being our eyes and ears, You do agree that that's rotten from the start.
That's got to be purged just for the incompetence and malfeasance.
eric prince
Yes, and the intelligence community, particularly the CIA, is the fastest one that can be reformed because civil service rules don't apply.
When you talk about a government transition... Nobody talks about that.
steve bannon
You know that.
Tell the audience about that.
eric prince
So the nature, the unique nature of the CIA under the 1947 Intelligence Act, it is literally not part of the civil service rules so that the director can fire anybody at any time for any reason.
steve bannon
Yes.
eric prince
Exactly.
And including all those contractors.
steve bannon
It doesn't need to go through HR.
eric prince
And all those contracts can be terminated for the convenience of government.
Done.
Gone.
So if there's terms of one organization, that can be quickly reformed.
steve bannon
If you were on the transition team after November 5th up until we take over at noon on the 20th, you're saying you can give the president a plan to cut 50% of the CIA just right out of the box?
unidentified
70%.
steve bannon
70% of the CIA?
eric prince
That would be more effective.
Here's the other thing, Steve.
Here's the other thing.
During COVID, the CIA wasn't coming in.
Fact.
Seventy, eighty percent, they were doing rotations where only a few people could be at headquarters.
The amount of collection and the improvement, the quality of the intelligence actually improved when all those people weren't there.
So again, just like all the teleworking and all the rest.
steve bannon
And we don't need a telecommute, telecommuting, and you don't need to go through any committee on Congress, you don't need to go through anything.
eric prince
Correct.
Here's the thing.
steve bannon
Hang on one second, I'm going to hold this because I'm going to take a short break.
birchgold.com slash bandit into the dollar empire go talk to philip patrick and the team today why gold is a hedge against a plummeting and purchasing power the fiat currency we call the united states dollar the greenback you know who knows that the central banks throughout the world of bricks nations they're buying gold at record rates here's your host stephen k band I'm going to get you on later about the CIA.
We'll go through all this.
You've opened up so many areas of inquiry.
The phone.
You've dedicated your life to making sure secure communications because of bad guys out there that want your information.
eric prince
You know, after the 2020 election and the nonsense they were doing to certain platforms and voices, they said, we're never going to change big tech by complaining about it, only by competing with it and providing an uncancellable phone.
And we've done that now.
Um, we fielded 500 last fall as our beta test and we now have 10,000 in stock.
We've blown through the first five, 6,000 phones and they're out.
steve bannon
The feedback we have from the audience has gotten, they love them.
Not like them, they love them.
eric prince
Excellent.
steve bannon
They love it.
eric prince
They just absolutely love it.
Because all the apps, too.
steve bannon
Walk through the apps.
eric prince
The difference is, this is our hardware, with our operating system, with our own store, messenger, VPN.
And this phone doesn't have an advertising ID, so unlike your phone, which is working with all the apps to export everything you do, go, talk to, buy, shop, turns on your microphone, your camera, your GPS, this does none of that, and it prevents that from happening.
And it's all about data sovereignty, and it really protects your First and Fourth Amendment rights so that your data is yours and not Big Brother, Big Tech.
steve bannon
I actually have one of your phones.
We tested it.
It's my bat phone.
eric prince
As it should be.
This phone even has a kill switch, which separates the battery from the electronics so that when it's off, you know it's off.
steve bannon
The one thing we've noticed works with our audience, because they're the knowledge seekers, where do they go to immerse themselves and all this?
The website.
eric prince
Our website, unplugged.com.
Uh, you can order at unplugged.com slash war room.
And if you order today, it'll be here by Thursday and you get a discount to get to the top of the line.
steve bannon
So go check it out today.
If, if to make contact with management, I know you've got access there over the company.
There, there's a part of the thing that you say, if you have questions.
eric prince
Sure.
If they want, if they want an additional app added, we have a really good support staff that speaks native English.
steve bannon
Yes.
eric prince
And we've had a really good experience in transitioning people from the big tech world into being unplugged and a lot of very happy customers.
steve bannon
When you first go into the store, maybe to do this in store, they may ask you, where in the hell did you get this phone?
I've had that from a couple of people.
Where did you get this phone?
Like, where do you work?
But that's okay.
You'll feel like a superstar.
Once more time, where do they go?
eric prince
Unplugged.com slash war room.
steve bannon
Okay.
This afternoon, we're going to do it this afternoon.
We'll break down the lie because they're setting a trap for President Trump about this debt.
The debt is all Biden's debt.
We had President Trump had a little bit of a pandemic debt.
This is all $10 trillion is Biden's debt.
We're walking through it.
But they're setting a trap for Thursday night to try to say that President Trump mishandled the economy.
One thing we know is that these deficits are going forward are only getting bigger.
How are they going to close the gap?
They've told you they're going to tax you and they're going to squeeze blood from a stone.
Josh Hanna from, Joshua Hanna from Vice President over at Tax Network USA joins us.
Brother, the IRS and they're coming and they're rolling hard.
What can you do?
What can Tax Network USA do for folks to help protect and shield them, sir?
unidentified
The biggest thing is taking action before it's too late.
Okay, so what we do is we offer a comprehensive tax analysis and strategy to reducing, settling, and resolving the tax matter.
But in addition to that, we offer protection.
You don't want to be sitting down at your kitchen table looking at your bank account and it's overdrawn.
by $5,000 because you waited to the last minute.
So we offer that protection so you don't have to worry about garnishments, levies,
or any aggressive collections. They can even seize your retirement
and take your home if they really are targeting you.
Targeting you.
steve bannon
When you say check your account and you got $5,000, these guys can come for your wages, they can come for your assets.
If you put all these notifications in the drawer, you're not solving the problem.
You're hiding from the problem.
You're saying you've got to get ahead of the problem, and you get ahead of it by going to Tax Network USA, because these guys need every penny they can get, and they ain't getting it from the billionaires or the Fortune 100 CEOs, sir.
unidentified
Not at all.
They're going after retirees, mostly, and small business owners.
They're the low-hanging fruit.
They're the easiest to go after.
And you know, just as much as anybody else right now, probably more than anybody else right now, that the government is being weaponized against the American people.
And they're starting with the IRS, you know, going after people who don't have the resources and taking money from them, hard-earned money from them, right out of their checking accounts.
steve bannon
So give me the process.
You go to the website, you call, give me a minute on the process and where people go, because I know people are excited about this, but they want to know what do they got to do.
unidentified
You can go to the website.
Usually I tell people if it's after hours, you want to visit TNUSA.com, fill out a secure form.
It's completely private.
They can schedule an appointment for the next day.
But right now you want to call because I have licensed tax professionals and tax consultants here waiting by the phone.
They'll take you through a private consultation, understand what your tax situation is.
understand what we need to get done immediately, and then pretty much forecast a strategy to,
No, no.
again, reduce, settle, and resolve your tax matter.
Takes about 12 minutes. It's a brief financial question. Go ahead.
No, no. Keep going. It takes about 12 minutes, 12 to 15 minutes.
It's a brief financial questionnaire.
We understand if there's any businesses involved.
You know, obviously, the whole key is to protect your income and assets.
And by the end of that call, hopefully, you know, most people have a pretty solid strategy to start sticking it to the IRS and settling these tax matters once and for all.
steve bannon
Okay.
Brother, one more time, the phone number, where do they go?
unidentified
Right now you want to go to 855-225-1040, 855-225-1040, or visit TNUSA.com.
And I want to say one thing.
If you don't have your documents or, you know, if you don't have everything in front of you, don't worry about it.
That's probably the reason why you're in trouble.
You don't have all your documents.
That's the reason why you've been behind.
Get on the phone with us.
You know, we have forensic accountants.
We have tax attorneys.
You know, That's what we specialize in, is understanding when people have a mess and how to execute a plan to get them all, get their tax cases all together and put forth to the IRS so we can settle it.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Joshua, thank you so much.
Tax Network USA.
Mike Lindell, sell me a pillow, brother.
Give it to him.
Get 60 seconds.
Hit it with Charlie Kirk's up next.
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We'll see you this afternoon.
We're going to have Gableman on at 6.
Talk about Wisconsin one more time.
Charlie Kirk is next.
Lindell will be with us in the 5 o'clock hour.
Kirk's next.
Poso after that.
Steve Gruber.
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