June 13, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| The core of the idea expressed to Mr. Alito that the country must fight the decline of Christianity in public life goes beyond the questions of bias and influence of the nation's highest court. | ||
| An array of conservatives, including anti-abortion activists, church leaders, and conservative state legislators, has openly embraced the idea that American democracy needs to be grounded in Christian values and guarded against the rise of secular culture. | ||
| They are right-wing Catholics and evangelicals who oppose abortion, same-sex marriage, transgender rights, and what they see as the dominance of liberal views in school curriculums. | ||
| And they've become a crucial segment of former President Trump's political coalition, intermingled with the MAGA movement that boosted him to the White House and that hopes to do so once again in November. | ||
| The only thing I'd add to that perfect articulation of where we are is, and they're going to decide whether or not Donald Trump has quote, absolute immunity in the criminal cases and charges against him. | ||
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Well, this idea of returning America to a place of, quote, godliness, this is not language that I think many Americans might be familiar with or thinking would be a legal principle, right? | |
| So it's indicative of the entirely new moment that this country is in, especially since | ||
| the overturning of Roe. | ||
| Our book, The Fall of Roe, the subtitle is The Rise of a New America. | ||
| And it gets at these questions about what is this conservative Christian movement that | ||
| was so powerful that so many people didn't see that led to the overturning of Roe? | ||
| Where are they going next, right? | ||
| And what Alito, by talking about godliness, was playing into was the language of this entirely, this right-wing conservative Christian movement that Really, as we show in our book, thinks about the questions of democracy in an overarching question, not question, but an overarching story of being within the kingdom of God. | ||
| For many of these Christians, democracy, the story of America, is just a small story in the broader story of the kingdom of Jesus. | ||
| But the thing that's disconnected in our politics is that Republicans don't seem to want anything. | ||
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They don't want bridges or jobs in their community. | |
| They just want theater. | ||
| And so, because they're having a low standard as voters, they're saying, just entertain me by owning the libs, and then we don't care if you don't deliver us anything. | ||
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That's the problem. | |
| Well, Republicans don't really want democracy anymore. | ||
| Well, they want tax cuts. | ||
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Right, they want tax cuts. | |
| Very rich Republicans want tax cuts, and they don't care. | ||
| But a lot of these people just want authoritarianism. | ||
| I mean, they like that, but if you ask, I mean, what I think is so fascinating about Republicans right now is they're not really for anything besides tax cuts. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, you tried to list the policies that they're for, right? | ||
| I mean, you know, it was infrastructure week a lot of times, but there never was any infrastructure, you know. | ||
| So that kind of thing is, you know, they want to give Trump more power, but to do what exactly? | ||
| Naturally, every time we do one of these segments, I find that looking back at four years ago brings on a lot of emotion. | ||
| Most people divide recent history into the before times and the after times. | ||
| Myself included. | ||
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A lot of us feel nostalgia for the before times. | |
| And that is exactly what Donald Trump and his allies are using to build their lie about what really happened. | ||
| To erase our real memories and implant false ones. | ||
| That is their project and it has been unnervingly effective so far. | ||
| Four years ago, in June of 2020, while we were all living through the trauma of the pandemic, Donald Trump's approval rating was 42%. | ||
| Now, in a new Monmouth poll asking voters to look back, 47% of Americans say they approve of the job Trump did as president. | ||
| It's not much, but those five points are basically the margin of the entire election. | ||
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The real problem is not the party itself. | |
| It's the voters who are subscribing to the party. | ||
| 74 million of them last time around. | ||
| This time, Trump heading the polls not by a lot. | ||
| So the real question, and the thing that is the most troubling, and I know a lot of these Trump voters, is the party speaks for itself. | ||
| They're transparent. | ||
| We see it. | ||
| Other than Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney, I don't think there's, and now you saw Paul Ryan, I don't think there's a Republican that has spoken outside of and again or against Fuller's leader. | ||
| So what is it about At this point, half the country that says, that's my party, I'll vote for that, that works for me. | ||
| That's the troubling part, is beyond the party is the voters that are subscribing to it. | ||
| That keeps me up at night. | ||
| It used to be, Amanda, not so long ago that we would be concerned as Christians looking at other faiths that would use their faith Uh, as, as an excuse for violence. | ||
| And we would, we would say, well, my gosh, at least Christians or the church would never do that because, of course, Jesus talks about turning the other cheek and talks about forgiving 70 times 7 and all these other things. | ||
| But whether it's in the Islamic world or whether it's on the West Bank with, with extremists uh... that are using religion to commit violent acts against palestinians or whether it's even in our own country where people who call themselves evangelicals who probably don't even go to church uh... are are now using violent rhetoric uh... and we and we saw during january six how depressing uh... while that violence was going on people carrying crosses and claiming they were doing jesus's work i know | ||
| You, like me, you've been inside all of this and seen the devolution of the party and the use of faith. | ||
| What are your thoughts? | ||
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Yeah, I mean, it's amazing how much it's changed, even, you know, when I was working on the Hill for Senator DeNiment, and then to see how the MAGA movement got infused with Christian politics and the rise of Christian nationalism. | |
| And when people ask me about it, like, you have to understand that Christian nationalism isn't Christian at all. | ||
| They're just using Christianity as the vehicle for the nationalism. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like that's the package is being wrapped in to get to this conclusion that they want, this vision for America. | ||
| And this certainly isn't all the churches. | ||
| It's not all Christians. | ||
| It's just a very organized, vocal, visible strain of it. | ||
| And, you know, the thing that I always think of, you know, I don't live in Washington, D.C., but where I drive around, I see one flag and I've seen it a few times at county fairs, hanging outside people's houses, and it never fails to just make my stomach drop. | ||
| And it's a flag with a cross and an AR-15 on it. | ||
| And I, it makes me so sad and angry to see. | ||
| I mean, we have all this like flag discourse, but that is one, it's not patriotic. | ||
| I mean, that is, it's a destruction of the American flag, which isn't respectful. | ||
| But then to put that Christian, put the cross on it with the flag and wait, you know, have that on your house against your neighbors. | ||
| And again, I've seen it a few times. | ||
| You see it sold, you know, where I drive, there's like tents that pop up in the summer that sell all these MAGA flags. | ||
| And certainly, like, that sort of style of flag, it's out there. | ||
| It's pretty clear what they're trying to communicate. | ||
| I can't tell you in specific words what they say, but it's violent, it's aggressive, it's intimidating, and it's just a disgusting interpretation of what patriotism and Christianity is. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| It's Thursday, 13 June, the year of our Lord 2024, and you're seeing, I think, | ||
| for the team to put together our opening every day, not the cold open, but put together the | ||
| the traditional open saying a primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| It's never been more relevant. | ||
| Just listen to that. | ||
| Complete and total meltdown. | ||
| You can smell the fear. | ||
| Now it's all, you know, today, last night, it's all, oh my gosh, Christian nationalism. | ||
| Alito said something about godliness. | ||
| That woman at the beginning, she's the one of the religious, I think, writers for the New York Times. | ||
| You know, most of America, what's her quote? | ||
| Most of America, you know, doesn't know what they talk about godliness. | ||
| Well, ma'am, you got to go out into America, I think, and understand what they talk about and what our chat talks about every day. | ||
| It is a return to godliness, right? | ||
| And you've tried to demonize Christianity. | ||
| You try to demonize traditional Catholics, evangelical Christians. | ||
| It's only making us stronger. | ||
| And look at their panic. | ||
| They understand that a new day is dawning. | ||
| MAGA is ascendant and with MAGA come basic fundamental foundational element of the American Republic. | ||
| Particularly the precepts of our Republic based upon the values of the Judeo-Christian West. | ||
| Yes, and the secular atheist Marxist neo-Marxists try to destroy the country. | ||
| No, your accountability day, you can whine about it, you can cry about it, you can throw your toys out of the pram, you can do all of it. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| We're relentless, we're on the rise, we're going to take power, and then there's going to be a season of accountability. | ||
| Rahim Ghassan, first I want your thoughts on what you see here and then people should understand the last 72 hours in European politics, particularly Front National or National Rally, has been extraordinary with the young people, with people coming together and I think I'm getting a feel like this could be another Brexit. | ||
| of 2016 that was the predicate to the Trump win. | ||
| Rahim, first, the meltdown of the mainstream media as they shift away from, oh, they're going to come and get us and, you know, there's going to be this purge, there's going to be these terrible things. | ||
| Now they're going to the underlying philosophy that they can't stop and that is the rise of folks that want to return to godliness in this nation because we are one nation under God. | ||
| Rahim Kassam. | ||
| Yeah, Steve, not to make light of it, but I know you are being subjected to cruel and unusual punishment by the state, but did you have to subject all of us to that cruel and unusual punishment this morning? | ||
| I mean, the screeching harridans of what I would call the extremist, globalist left. | ||
| There. | ||
| I, you know, I agree with you that this is the primal scream of a dying regime, but it also tells you, like, one step, you look one step further, go one step further, look a little deeper about what types of people that they are putting up on television to tell you that, you know, democracy is coming to an end, we're entering a period of theocratic dictatorship in America. | ||
| It is, it is predominantly, I mean, people like Molly John Faust, right? | ||
| Demonic, satanic, Um, you know, immoral, childless, um, you know, these are the sorts of people that they're holding up as an example of, like, neoliberal secularism. | ||
| I think, I think they will convince more and more people, the more and more they go on TV and scream that their world is coming to an end, the more and more Americans will applaud that. | ||
| And in fact, Westerners All across the world, actually, we'll applaud that because these are the people who have sowed the seeds for the moral decay of Western civilization right now. | ||
| So the more that these demons are shrieking every morning, the more I will put up with that cruel and unusual punishment. | ||
| That feeds us and that tells us that we are doing the morally correct thing. | ||
| Also, you see Biden has announced a 10-year deal with underwriting the troops and training of Zelensky, which is to take leverage out of Trump's hand. | ||
| Mollye Young-Fast says, we're just anti-democracy, we're authoritarian. | ||
| She doesn't mention we want to stop the invasion of the nation and deport 10 million people. | ||
| We want to stop the forever wars and get back to an America first policy. | ||
| And we want to stop the administrative state in the 7 trillion dollars a year and the 2 trillion dollar deficits that are burying the working class. | ||
| Pretty good. | ||
| That's those three policies right out of the box. | ||
| They do not respect this movement enough to actually look at the policies. | ||
| They just want to scream and throw their toys out of the pram, Rahim. | ||
| Yeah, look, one of the things about democracy, about actual democracy, is sometimes the prevailing ruling class doesn't get the results that it wants. | ||
| Loser's consent is an inherent part of that. | ||
| You can't then go around either rigging things or cheating. | ||
| You know, you've got this new story, by the way, I don't know if you saw, we had it up on the National Pulse last night about these machines in Puerto Rico now being scrutinized because of how many errors. | ||
| You can't just introduce different mechanisms, things to usurp Uh, the democratic will, and that is exactly what the globalists did in Ukraine in 2014. | ||
| There was a democratically elected government. | ||
| You can make all the arguments you want about, you know, Ukraine being, you know, a corrupt society and so on and so forth. | ||
| But that was the will of the Ukrainian people at the time. | ||
| The American State Department didn't like it. | ||
| Victoria Nuland didn't like it. | ||
| Molly John Faust didn't like it. | ||
| And what, so what did they do? | ||
| They orchestrated a color revolution, a coup, Against that and have plunged Ukraine into, you know, depravity, destruction, into moral decay, into having most of their young men just wiped out. | ||
| Like I told you a couple of weeks ago in Palm Beach, I think Ukraine will become probably the first African colony in Europe as a result of this, because all they're going to do is say, OK, well, look, we need to repopulate this country. | ||
| We need people to, you know, that we can use as Uh, indentured servitude. | ||
| They're going to impregnate millions of people. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K Band. | ||
| By the way, I think, um, we're checking this out. | ||
| I think that they won a court case late last night to release the, uh, the tape or at least the transcript. | ||
| I think that the transcript with the, I want to pull that tweet again, the transcript of the, um, interview of Biden in his, um, in his, um, ghostwriter, Rahim. | ||
| And I think that that's some controversy, but the ghostwriter destroyed the audio tape. | ||
| I think they had to go back and FBI had to go back and repurpose it. | ||
| Very, very, Shakey, what's happening over there? | ||
| Garrett Ziegler is going to join us in a moment, hopefully enlighten us on all the topics related to the Bidens. | ||
| Rahim, I want to make sure you go back and talk about Ukraine because Biden, this is what I call the de-Trumpification. | ||
| They want to win no matter what. | ||
| They're anti-democratic, so they won't take the results of the ballot box. | ||
| They're doing everything to deny us and steal the election, including Raskin and Mark Elias working Beavering away between November 5th and the 20th, or at least January 6th. | ||
| Make sure President Trump can't take office. | ||
| This is why it's so important, I think, to go back. | ||
| You've got to get rid of this J6 committee and get that report thrown into the shredder. | ||
| It's already a joke, but I mean, formally do it. | ||
| I hope the House is making some efforts in that regard. | ||
| And now they're de-Trumpifying his second term. | ||
| Biden's working on a 10-year deal. | ||
| A 10-year deal. | ||
| right, which to me is a treaty, a 10-year deal to train and arm Ukraine to try to get that into some sort of | ||
| omnibus bill or to try to get some defense authorization to take any type of leverage off of | ||
| out of President Trump's hand. But I want you to reiterate to the audience | ||
| your theory, the case here about Ukraine's potentially the first | ||
| truly third world country on the edge of Eastern Europe and in the Central Asia, sir. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| And actually, you know, President Trump is on Capitol Hill at the moment, and one of the things coming out of that meeting right now I can report to you live is that President Trump has told people in the room about Ukraine, quote, they're never going to be there for us, unquote, saying that we should pay our own troops more instead of sending billions to Ukraine and trashing the Ukraine aid package, you know, right there. | ||
| in Mike Johnson's face. | ||
| So that's an interesting development coming off Capitol Hill this morning. | ||
| Also, I'm being told that President Trump told Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene | ||
| to actually be nicer to Mike Johnson. | ||
| So there's a couple of nuggets for you there. | ||
| I just want to get back to, just before I address that point, by the way, | ||
| about this oversight transcript release that we've seen this morning. | ||
| I want to show the camera because I've been going through this this morning. | ||
| I want to show the camera what we're dealing with here by the way just to show you the the transparency with which your government my friends operates. | ||
| I'm going to show you here is an average page from the uh the release transcript this morning i don't know if denver can if they've got that if they can zoom in if you can see that ladies and gentlemen the names the names are barely visible and the paragraphs themselves are just broadly redacted 266 pages | ||
| I've counted manually this morning. | ||
| There is a redaction on every single page. | ||
| This reminds me of Robert Baer's book, See No Evil, that he wrote about the Iraq invasion and the Afghanistan war and everything that took place there. | ||
| Redaction on almost every page then. | ||
| This is the most transparent government ever, by the way, Joe Biden said when he was taking office. | ||
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Let's go back to Ukraine. | |
| Hang on, hang on, hang on, don't drop it. | ||
| This was forced by a judge to release this. | ||
| They didn't want to release it. | ||
| So what they released is the redacted version. | ||
| That's like one third redacted. | ||
| All the good stuff's redacted. | ||
| Steve, I'm telling you, it's way more than a third that's redacted here. | ||
| I would... | ||
| I would guess that 60-65% of this document is redacted. | ||
| And the stuff that isn't redacted is, hey, can you confirm your name? | ||
| Yeah, my name is Robert. | ||
| Hey, you know, can you confirm that you interviewed Joe Biden? | ||
| Yes, I interviewed Joe Biden. | ||
| What did you talk about? | ||
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Redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted, all the way through. | |
| So I'm not sure that we'll learn an awful lot from this document. | ||
| We've got our team over at The National Pulse going through it now, and we'll have a story up shortly on the few things that we can glean from this. | ||
| But yeah, I mean, this is what we're dealing with. | ||
| Go back. | ||
| Okay, this is amazing. | ||
| Garrett's going to join us in a minute and go through it again in more depth. | ||
| Rahim... Steve is not used to me, by the way, having gone through the news this early. | ||
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This is still new for Steve. | |
| This is the new rejuvenated natural pulse. | ||
| I love this. | ||
| You're like the news desk. | ||
| Rahim, Ukraine. | ||
| Theory of the case. | ||
| They leaked today when President Trump came to the Capitol that they're working on a 10-year deal they want to sign to take all the leverage away from President Trump. | ||
| You just saw what he said to the House Republicans. | ||
| Your theory of the case is, hey, this is going to be the first third world country in Eastern Europe, the Central Asian part where they come together. | ||
| Well, they've solved, they've created two major problems here, right, on the world stage in the last couple of years. | ||
| One being Ukraine and the war, and the other being, I mean, they've created way more problems than this, but these are the two big ones, right? | ||
| And the other being mass migration, all the pull factors, all the open borders, all of the billions that are ploughed in NGO funds, and so on and so forth. | ||
| And by the way, can we take a little moment to celebrate the SPLC having to axe a bunch of staff yesterday? | ||
| That definitely got some champagne corks popping. | ||
| late last night. And so they find a solution to both of those problems in the idea of mass | ||
| importation of people from South Asia, from the Arab world and from sub-Saharan Africa | ||
| into Ukraine. Remember, they're talking about another Patriot battery going out there, they're | ||
| talking about another 60 billion, but they're actually right now divvying up, they've got | ||
| a big conference, a conflab going on in Germany, they're actually talking about divvying up | ||
| the reconstruction of Ukraine right now. By the way, the war hasn't ended, okay? And they | ||
| keep telling us that the end of the war isn't in sight, but at the same time, you've got | ||
| all these big, you know, corporate multinational American companies going out there and saying, | ||
| we want a piece of this, we want a piece of that. | ||
| Well, what do you think they're going to do in terms of labor over there when they indulge in these, you know, rebuilding exercises? | ||
| You think they're going to go to Alabama? | ||
| You think they're going to go to Arkansas? | ||
| You think they're going to go to West Virginia and pull some old boys out and go like, hey, we're giving this money to you guys. | ||
| You guys are going to get paid. | ||
| A handsome living wage for this? | ||
| Absolutely not! | ||
| It's going to be cheap, immigrant, migrant labor, and they're going to bring it, and those people are going to be told, if you come over and you help us build Ukraine, then you get permanent citizenship, you get lifetime for you and your families to live in the Western world. | ||
| Just my prediction on that. | ||
| Young people feel that. | ||
| Tell me about this extraordinary last 72 hours in both UK and particularly France on politics. | ||
| I'm seeing crowds. | ||
| I'm seeing enthusiasm. | ||
| Young people. | ||
| Axios Today lead story, how Trump's winning the youth vote. | ||
| What is happening here throughout the world on this topic, Reem? | ||
| Well, young people have realized that their youth has been stolen, right? | ||
| And actually their adulthood has been stolen, too. | ||
| The mass loading on of debt, the mismanagement, the pandemic, you know, all of these things that have done this. | ||
| and then of course, you know, the mass importation of cheap migrant labour that is rendering | ||
| people with not a lot of honest work at their doorstep, at their feet. You know, all these | ||
| options that we're given, all of these stupid... I've been watching the UK, by the way, Parliament, | ||
| the debates between the prime ministerial candidates, and one of the things that keeps | ||
| coming up is, hey, we're going to get rid, we're going to ban these silly degrees that | ||
| people end up spending tens of thousands of pounds for, hundreds of thousands of dollars | ||
| landing in debt and then of course there are no jobs on the back end for them. | ||
| There aren't jobs out there in the real world for people who are studying, you know, all these ologies and all of these, you know, DEI type degrees. | ||
| So this is becoming a real existential matter. | ||
| You look at the carnage being caused amongst the media in Europe at the moment, because some kids are singing songs in Germany, Auslander aus, you know, get the foreigners out. | ||
| And it's triggering these people in a massive, massive way, yes. | ||
| You look at France and you look at the polling, I understand, we know. | ||
| By the way, didn't I call it? | ||
| And people took two or three days to come in and realize that, again, Rahim's predictions on this were right. | ||
| This is what Macron was hoping to do. | ||
| Catch Marine Le Pen's party unawares, make them fight another election campaign off the | ||
| back of one where they've already spent all their money and resources. | ||
| And he was thinking, right, if you surprise them, I can hold on to a parliamentary majority | ||
| maybe. | ||
| The polling is showing that his gamble is not going to work. | ||
| And like you said at the top of the show, I think you may be correct. | ||
| This may be like a Brexit effect for 2024. | ||
| Here's what I find so stunning is young people. | ||
| Your thing at the beginning of this was brilliant. | ||
| Young people, and can we get the Donny Deutch piece, because Donny Deutch says what he's afraid of is the Trump voter. | ||
| Young people in France, I think you're seeing the awakening in England, but definitely in France and the United States, Raheem, something big is going on here. | ||
| This is a tectonic plate shift. | ||
| Not just with African Americans, not just with Hispanics, but now the youth vote. | ||
| Steve, you and I don't like it, but we're big enough and ugly enough to admit that we're, you know, not necessarily we've been wrong on this, but there are gains to be made here. | ||
| Look at TikTok, okay? | ||
| Like, I'm not on TikTok. | ||
| I don't encourage anybody to go on TikTok. | ||
| But look at the way that younger people are responding to President Trump on TikTok. | ||
| Look at the viral clip you had last night of that YouTuber. | ||
| I think Logan Paul squaring up to President Trump at Mar-a-Lago and all of it, you know, | ||
| five million, I think nearly six million subscribers the President Trump now has on TikTok. | ||
| He's reaching young people in a way like never before. | ||
| And you know, RFK knows this as well, by the way. | ||
| He's still trying to disintermediate that. | ||
| You know, he's going on like the Kill Tony podcast and doing like a minute worth of stand-up | ||
| comedy there or trying to in order to try and break through to that same audience. | ||
| But it doesn't work. | ||
| There's no authenticity. | ||
| What have we always talked about? | ||
| The importance of authenticity. | ||
| And that's why President Trump cuts through all the time. | ||
| So every every piece of. | ||
| Anecdotal evidence is showing us that young people are more and more interested in what the political right, what the nationalist populist right has to say, and frankly all the data is starting to point that way too. | ||
| We've got 45 seconds. | ||
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| I thank you in advance. | ||
| Cheers, Steve. | ||
| Amazing work, Raheem. | ||
| Amazing work. | ||
| Look forward to seeing you in Detroit, buddy. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Garrett Ziegler, Eli Crane, on the other side. | ||
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The real problem is not the party itself. | |
| It's the voters who are subscribing to the party. | ||
| 74 million of them last time around. | ||
| This time, Trump ahead in the polls, not by a lot. | ||
| So, the real question, and the thing that is the most troubling, and I know a lot of these Trump voters, is the party speaks for itself. | ||
| They're transparent. | ||
| We see it. | ||
| Other than Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney, I don't think there's, and now you saw Paul Ryan, I don't think there's a Republican that has spoken outside of, and again, or against, Felix Leder. | ||
| So what is it about, at this point, half the country that says, that's my party, I'll vote for that, that works for me. | ||
| That's the troubling part, is beyond the party, is the voters that are subscribing to it. | ||
| That keeps me up at night. | ||
| It should keep you up at night. | ||
| Because it's much more than 74 million. | ||
| I tell you, a good thing about Danny Deutch, when you smell his fear, he comes right out and tells you. | ||
| My problem's not the Mitt Romneys and the controlled opposition, is what he's saying. | ||
| My problem is actually MAGA. | ||
| My problem is actually the populist nationalists that support President Trump that are demanding change and will get change in this country, including Holding accountable Donnie Deutsch and everybody that worked to destroy this country. | ||
| Yeah They should be smell the fear right there. | ||
| They understand they're losing the grip. | ||
| What is a quote? | ||
| My problem is the 74 million people. | ||
| Well, hey, we're sorry. | ||
| You have a problem with it and we don't give to you know, what's We could care less what you think Donnie Deutsch. | ||
| You're part of the problem and It's a problem. | ||
| We're gonna solve for We're going to solve for the equation, that the equation is the problem, we're going to solve for it. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| And that's what he fears. | ||
| The good news is Donny Deutch comes out and tells you. | ||
| He comes out and tells you. | ||
| He understands. | ||
| It's not simply President Trump. | ||
| President Trump is the leader of this movement. | ||
| But now they're getting their understanding, and you see with Justice Alito's comments about the return to godliness, that's what these atheistic neo-Marxists fear more than anything. | ||
| The righteous indignation of a just people. | ||
| That would be MAGA, that would be the American people, which is two-thirds of the nation. | ||
| Two-thirds of the nation. | ||
| We got the one and only Eli Crane. | ||
| We're going to jump to Eli Crane when he joins us, but I want to go to Garrett Ziegler. | ||
| Garrett, I may have to bifurcate your hit because we've got a lot to go through. | ||
| You're breaking news, as you usually do. | ||
| Garrett, did they ever come up, did the Biden family ever come up to you having said very bad things about our own Garrett Ziegler, very nasty things about our own Garrett Ziegler, using bad words to describe Garrett Ziegler, who's just an American citizen sitting in the courtroom? | ||
| Did the Biden family ever come up and say they were sorry after the son No, of course not. | ||
| As Joe said, my son's done nothing wrong. | ||
| He's the most honorable man I know. | ||
| is a total misdirection play, right? | ||
| But did they ever come up and say, okay, Garrett, you're right, you're right, | ||
| we're a pack of feral dogs. | ||
| And can you send our apology to the American people? | ||
| Did the feral dogs of the Biden family come over and like lick your hand? | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| As Joe said, my son's done nothing wrong. | ||
| He's the most honorable man I know. | ||
| This is, again, like you said, it's a pack of feral dogs and it just goes to show | ||
| that Jill is the ringleader of this because she was standing right behind Melissa | ||
| when this whole episode was going on. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| And, you know, Donny Deutch, just to go back to that real quick, his anxiety fuels us, right? | ||
| I mean, I should listen to that at 6.30 every morning. | ||
| It's just a shot in the arm. | ||
| To go back, I was listening to Rahim, and Mark Zwanitzer, the wiry ghostwriter, Who deleted, he should be charged with obstruction of justice. | ||
| That's the first thing we said after the H.E.R. | ||
| report. | ||
| Beyond Joey having early onset dementia, Zwanitzer deleted the recordings. | ||
| Like you said, it's so insane. | ||
| They had to get a CART team in there to recover the MP3 files. | ||
| We found on the Biden laptop, which is why Melissa blew her gasket, an email August 25th, 2017. | ||
| This is right in the editing stage. | ||
| Remember, Joey probably wrote nine words of it. | ||
| Zwanitzer did most of the work. | ||
| But Mark sends Hunter an email attached are the final chapter in the epilogue, which your dad asked me to send to you today. | ||
| Why does this matter? | ||
| If the contention, which we now know to be true, is that Joe shared classified information with Zwanitzer, It stands to reason that he could have inadvertently included that material in these draft chapters that Hunter received. | ||
| This is three months before the public can get the book. | ||
| The book came out Thanksgiving, 2017. | ||
| This is August 25th, right when he's in the middle of crack. | ||
| This is three weeks after the shakedown with the CEFC. | ||
| I am sitting here next to my father at this point because Hunter is such a decrepit person. | ||
| He's living with his parents in his grandma's old cottage on Joey's property. | ||
| So he's with Joey every day. | ||
| This is a story, this is an angle to this, Steve, that hasn't been fleshed out as what Hunter's involvement was in this memoir. | ||
| And all we have is a couple of emails from Zwanitzer. | ||
| And nobody's staked outside of his house. | ||
| You know, it's illegal to pick it outside of Supreme Court Justice's house. | ||
| People should be picking it out of Mark Zwanitzer's house. | ||
| I mean, he's the one that... Go ahead. | ||
| Why is he not charged... Why is he not charged... Why is her not charged with a crime? | ||
| Why is he not charged with a crime for destruction of evidence, sir? | ||
| I have no idea, and I'm a nerd, so I read the entire H.E.R. | ||
| report. | ||
| He doesn't address that. | ||
| He addresses ten different ways from Sunday, the hypotheticals about why he didn't charge Joey. | ||
| But as you know, so many of the non-principals, I'll call them, got swept up in the Mueller scam. | ||
| And of course, Mueller didn't charge DJT, and he shouldn't have charged the other people. | ||
| So that's the supreme irony, that Mueller went after all these lower-level people unjustly. | ||
| And her won't go after the one. | ||
| I mean, they have it down to the timestamp. | ||
| They have the metadata associated with the audio file. | ||
| So they know precisely when it was announced that they were going to want to talk to Mark. | ||
| So Mark can't even claim plausible liability here. | ||
| He can't say that he didn't know he was a subject of the investigation. | ||
| He deleted it after they reached out to him. | ||
| He's so screwed. | ||
| And, you know, hopefully there's nothing that they offered him in terms of a proffer where the statute of limitations are told. | ||
| Because if DJT gets back in, that's clear as cut. | ||
| I mean, there's a five-year statute of limitations for that. | ||
| He's so guilty. | ||
| This is what accountability day is coming. | ||
| Talk to me about, we had Attorney General held in contempt yesterday for holding back the audio tapes, but now you've had, I guess we've got the tapes, the transcripts, but two-thirds of them, Rahim tells us two-thirds are redacted. | ||
| I know you and your team are going through them right now. | ||
| What can you tell us about it? | ||
| It's utterly pathetic. | ||
| One of the one of the usernames for a guy on our team is unredacted American, because there's little more that we hate than those black boxes. | ||
| They drive me up a wall. | ||
| And most of the statutory exemptions that the feds cite on the paper itself, like B5, B7, once those are redacted, we see that most of the time they do not correlate. | ||
| I think a FOIA, a corrupt FOIA officer is literally just like a wheel of fortune wheel spinning the thing and picking out which one they want to choose because they know that most of the time it'll never be unredacted so we'll never be able to compare the excuse they use like B5 for personal identifiable information to the actual words underneath it. | ||
| It's utterly ridiculous. | ||
| So I'm glad. | ||
| Garland is such a rodent that it's one of the first times I've been proud of the Congress in this 18-month period. | ||
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| No, because the ball's going to start rolling. | ||
| People understand a lot of things are going to happen. | ||
| You've been the biggest advocate of not taking our eye off the ball because you're going to have a tax thing. | ||
| I think they're still suing you. | ||
| You've exposed all this. | ||
| You were fearless in your exposure of the laptop from hell. | ||
| Tell me about the misdirection play here with the gun, the later misdirection play with his taxes. | ||
| That's all marginalia just dealing with Hunter. | ||
| And every night on TV they're saying, well, you know, Trump is all over the justice system, but the Biden support it. | ||
| Really what we're interested in and what is key to the nation is their treason and selling out the country and what Hunter Biden did as the, as basically the new business officer of the monetization of Joe Biden as an asset, the $20 million in cash that Mike Davis keeps talking about. | ||
| Talk to us about how do we get back onto that. | ||
| What does the House have to do? | ||
| What is Garrett Ziegler's recommended course of action? | ||
| Because the reason they were cursing you the other day is not because of the gun charge, not because of that. | ||
| The family knows, and Jill Biden knows, that Garrett Ziegler's coming for the big payoff. | ||
| Yeah, it all matters because of Joe. | ||
| That's why we've been obsessed with this beat, if you want to call it. | ||
| Our group has stayed on this story for over two years because it's who Hunter's daddy is. | ||
| That's why when the Washington Post said, I want to take down Hunter Biden, that's a limited hangout. | ||
| is only important because who his dad is. | ||
| And I think that the way people should think about it is, there's a ladder with three rungs. | ||
| The trial in Delaware, which I was at every day, Monday through Friday, is on the third rung. | ||
| Hardly any of that touches on Joe. | ||
| The trial in Los Angeles in September, which I will again be at every single day, sitting right behind them, both Melissa and Kevin Morris, the caveman, that's on the second rung. | ||
| There'll be more Joe mentions In that trial in September because it's tax evasion. | ||
| But what Weiss and Derek Hines and the other prosecutor are refusing to go to is the first rung, which is FARA and money laundering. | ||
| Because that trial, that indictment, every single charge will relate to a contract that Hunter received only because who his daddy is. | ||
| Not one of his clients. | ||
| In my three years of going through these emails, Steve, ever sought Hunter out because of his intelligence. | ||
| We would see that in the emails. | ||
| There's not one email that says, dang, you really understand the background really well. | ||
| That's not what they're calling them for. | ||
| The kind of emails that Hunter receives are, hey, I've been trying to get a hold of you. | ||
| There's something going on in the hill that your dad could weigh in on. | ||
| It's very topical. | ||
| It's very rushed. | ||
| And it's a type of a contract that you know they went into because if they're in a pinch, they need an advocate in the VP's office. | ||
| And we're just going to stay on this because of the issues affecting all Americans. | ||
| If the president is compromised, which we know he is, there are few more important issues. | ||
| And this, these crocodile tears about retribution, all we want is justice, right? | ||
| So Donnie Deutch and all these crazed people, what they're fearing is a return to constitutional government. | ||
| If Hunter Biden didn't commit crimes, we're not advocating that he get charged. | ||
| We want justice, and because they're atheist and because they have no background in Western Civ or Christianity, they can't answer the question, what is justice? | ||
| To them, what's just is whatever feels good and whatever supports my side. | ||
| They can't even provide a definition. | ||
| They don't even know who Thomas Aquinas is. | ||
| I know I'm getting in the weeds here, but they literally do not know what the words they use mean. | ||
| They have no clue. | ||
| So... | ||
| You're not getting the weeds off. | ||
| I want to hold you for a moment and say you're not getting the weeds off, but Abby Lowell | ||
| and those guys came after you harder than anybody. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Now Abby Lowell had the biggest, and he hasn't really laid a glove on Garrett Ziegler because | ||
| Garrett Ziegler stands on the side of the angels, but Abby Lowell, your nemesis, literally | ||
| threw the ball downfield and it was a pick six, was it not? | ||
| The reason this client's going to go to prison, at least for a while until his dad gives him a pardon, is because Abbey Lowell blew it, did he not sir? | ||
| You got 30 seconds and then you're going to hold you through the break. | ||
| He was terrible. | ||
| They should have picked the young associate sitting right by Hunter and Abby Lowell, David Kalansky, also Winston Strong. | ||
| The funny thing is with Melissa, and I know I got 15 seconds, is we're fair. | ||
| We see things as they are. | ||
| Abby Lowell is ugly, unlikable, condescending, and cocky. | ||
| The young guy that they had with them should have been arguing the case the whole time. | ||
| He only got one cross-examination. | ||
| It felt bad for him. | ||
| Hang on for a second. | ||
| Garrett Ziegler on the other side. | ||
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| Garrett Ziegler has Hunter you still have the 61 and we got into this last night with Natalie Natalie Winters the 61 intelligence officers and they have to understand they're gonna be held accountable that said this was a Russian Disinformation that's a hardcore stone-cold lie. | ||
| They refuse to back off on this But Hunter Biden's now at least getting to be somewhat of a liability for Joe Biden in the campaign. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| What is his? | ||
| What's the real politique? | ||
| Around Hunter Biden right now in his charges, the taxes, you know, when he's going to be sentenced, all of that. | ||
| Two things. | ||
| Number one, and the most important thing from a Biden family standpoint, is that the surrender date for little Hunter for the Delaware conviction has to be before November 5th. | ||
| What they want is any potential surrender to the BOP to be after November 5th, because that's the election. | ||
| Joey knows it's going to be so politically unpalatable for him that he cannot make any pardon or commutation decision before the election. | ||
| Win or lose, I think he'll want to commute Hunter's sentence. | ||
| But that conviction already happened on, you know, June 10th or June 11th, excuse me. | ||
| The question is when Noreka is going to set the sentencing hearing. | ||
| So that is out of our control. | ||
| But that's a very big concern to them. | ||
| Secondly, and only tangentially related, is whether or not they're really going to push Hunter to settle and plea out for the California case. | ||
| Because, as you'll recall in that analogy I used of the three rung ladder, that will touch on Joe more. | ||
| Not everything will, but it'll be even worse. | ||
| You know, the mainstream media. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, no, but hold it, but hold it. | ||
| What the DOJ would do in a normal situation, because this is a crime family, what they would do if they were dealing with the mafia, they would sit down with Hunter and his lawyer immediately and they would take these charged three felonies he's guilty of, the potential tax is going to add another 10 or 15 years with that. | ||
| They sit in the room and go, okay, give us the big guy. | ||
| We want everything on here. | ||
| In a normal process, this shows you how the Biden regime and Merrick Garland are already intruding in this. | ||
| In anything else they were going after a crime family, he would be a capo and they would go and they say, hey, we'll get this down to nothing. | ||
| We'll let you walk. | ||
| But it's all contingent upon what you give us on Biden. | ||
| Why is that not happening? | ||
| Why is Biden and them not being treated like... President Trump they're treating like the worst criminal in human history. | ||
| Why are they not going and trying to get it out of Biden? | ||
| Hey, this may have to happen. | ||
| This may all have to go back through on the afternoon of 20 November. | ||
| That's what these people got to understand. | ||
| It's going to be a whole new day after President Trump takes oath of office. | ||
| So don't think you can run, don't think you can run and hide. | ||
| And the Biden family particularly not going to be able to run and hide. | ||
| That is a top priority because they're treasonous. | ||
| They sold out the country to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Garrett Ziegler. | ||
| I agree completely. | ||
| And all we want is justice. | ||
| So what has occurred here is a grave injustice. | ||
| Like you said, those hypothetical prosecutors, what Rudy did for all those years, they use this conviction in Delaware as leverage. | ||
| Right? | ||
| To go after Joe. | ||
| That's why this idea that Steve and I are after Hunter is ridiculous. | ||
| It's not Hunter who we're concerned about, per se. | ||
| He's just a means to the end. | ||
| The end is exposing how the U.S. | ||
| sitting president has been compromised by foreign powers. | ||
| To answer your question or comment about Garland, yes, Garland is crooked, and yes, he had his own political appointees, refused to partner with Weiss back in 2022. | ||
| But Weiss himself and the two AUSAs who argued the case, Derek Hines and Leo Weiss, They are Rod Rosenstein acolytes. | ||
| They're like best friends with Rod Rosenstein, argued cases with him for years, and Robert Herr. | ||
| That's another angle to this. | ||
| We talked about Robert Herr earlier. | ||
| The two prosecutors on Hunter's case were colleagues with Robert Herr for years, and they're friends. | ||
| You can go find 100 pictures online of them standing behind the mics after a case in Baltimore. | ||
| So this is an incestuous group. | ||
| All we can do is put pressure on them. | ||
| Loving pressure. | ||
| And lay out the clear felonies. | ||
| How do people find out more about you and how they find out more about your organization? | ||
| Because you lay out the felonies when you go to your sites. | ||
| How do people get there? | ||
| How do they support you? | ||
| Because they're coming after you quite hard, young man. | ||
| Yes, thank you. | ||
| And again, Melissa never accused me of lying. | ||
| She never came up to me and said, Garrett, you're a smear merchant and you make up BS about my husband and family. | ||
| That's not what they accused me of. | ||
| They never accused us of lying. | ||
| They accused us of being mean. | ||
| It's a second grade playground shtick. | ||
| Everybody should go to fightbiden.org. | ||
| It has the links to our website. | ||
| It has the links to the court docket. | ||
| Hunter's only goal is to take us out through lawfare. | ||
| It's not through anything else. | ||
| So there we spent hundreds of thousands of dollars just defending ourselves from these frivolous suits. | ||
| So FightBiden.org has the docket. | ||
| It has our dossier, which you can read. | ||
| I know I sent you guys a box. | ||
| Go to BidenReport.com. | ||
| Look at the footnotes. | ||
| Try to fact check us. | ||
| And this is the complete rendition of the criminal activity on the laptop that was just admitted by the FBI in the District of Delaware. | ||
| Ziegler, great work. | ||
| I want everybody to go there right now. | ||
| Grace and Mo, put it up in the Chiron. | ||
| Denver, if you can help us out. | ||
| Let's get the Conrad. | ||
| Let's get a lot of traffic. | ||
| We shut down those constitutional sheriffs. | ||
| Melted down. | ||
| Garrett, thank you so much. | ||
| Go back to work. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Eli Crane is in the house. | ||
| Eli Crane is going to join us at the top of the hour. | ||
| That's going to be a 90-second break. | ||
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| I've got Dave Bratz going to join me in the next hour. | ||
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