June 8, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| Peace. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| But you know the serious challenge that's posed by anti-vaxxers and I think we need to strategize to really push back because vaccines work. | ||
| Vaccines affect adults and we have science evidence on our side. | ||
| I think It's time to be more aggressive in pushing back on anti-vaxxers. | ||
| I think they use COVID as an opportunity and, you know, all the havoc they're creating. | ||
| Maybe that's one of the messages also I would like to include to whatever I have said. | ||
| Welcome to the War Room. | ||
| It's Natalie G. Winters hosting today, Thursday, June 6th, in the year of our Lord 2024. | ||
| Quite an eventful day, as you guys could probably imagine here in the War Room. | ||
| But as you know, the War Room never stops, never takes a day off, because you know what? | ||
| Our enemies, the evil globalists that you just watched in that video, they never take not even just a day off, a minute off, a second off, a nanosecond off. | ||
| You know they are always balls to the wall trying to figure out how to deprive us of basically every single liberty. | ||
| and freedom and right ever. | ||
| That's what they're good at doing. | ||
| But luckily, I think our side, sometimes for the most part, better, | ||
| at least sort of undercutting the psychological warfare that they're waging against us. | ||
| Of course, the war room, we've been proud to be leading the charge. | ||
| We know that's why they're of course going after us and our fearless leader, Mr. Stephen K. Bannon, the admiral. | ||
| But luckily, we also have so many wonderful guests who of course, as you well know, join us on this show. | ||
| I'm honored to bring on Norbin Lawden to help us go through what are, I think could probably best be described as just kind of murky, weird coincidence, maybe, dare I say, conspiratorial developments going on when it comes to all things pandemics, public health, the World Health Organization. | ||
| I don't really like using their terminology, Their verbiage, because I think we, we give them too much, right? | ||
| The way that they say public health, they make it sound like it's a, it's a demonstrable benefit for the country or the world writ large, and we know it's not. | ||
| But I would love to start off with that video that we just watched. | ||
| Now, if you could walk us through a little bit about this kind of, you know, anti-vaccine and all the fearmongering going on there, but particularly in the context of how we're already starting to see this new bird flu narrative get hyped up. | ||
| Thank you so much for having me, Anastasia. | ||
| It's great to be with you. | ||
| There is indeed so much to say, so much information flying around, so much contradictory information, disinformation on all sides. | ||
| And I appreciate the opportunity to try and bring some clarity as to what is actually going on, you know, under the guise of our health, as you very correctly mentioned in your intro, because None of this has to do with our health. | ||
| It's actually the very opposite. | ||
| It's about our ill health. | ||
| And the WHO is one of the key vehicles that has been set up by the globalists to push an entire industry upon the world, a big pharma, big pharma's poisonous products onto the world. | ||
| And it's very ironic, you know, that Tedros is up there saying that he needs to fight back against disinformation. | ||
| We also have many other clips where he's calling on pushing back against this information, while he is one of the leaders pushing major disinformation onto the public, which is that these products actually help people instead of harming them. | ||
| So I'm curious because I think there's something very interesting going on. | ||
| I know Steve and I have been talking a lot about this off air, but it's this sort of weird, whether you want to put it in the context of what they've been doing with Anthony Fauci and the origins of COVID, but we sort of describe it as a limited hangout. | ||
| And I think they're doing this too, when it comes to the efficacy of COVID vaccines, right? | ||
| They're painting Peter Daszak as the fall guy for the origins of COVID-19, so we don't get to the heart of the issue, which is the collusion between the Chinese Communist Party and, you know, big pharma and the meta-industrial complex here, right? | ||
| Just write it off as, oh, a one-off mistake with Peter Daszak. | ||
| But I think there's something similar going on, on the COVID vaccine front, because now, for the last month or two, we've seen the mainstream media suddenly say words that I never thought we'd hear them say, | ||
| right? You know, vaccine injury, COVID-19 vaccines, maybe they weren't all that effective. | ||
| You got, you know, one of the Cuomo's coming out saying he's vaccine injured and that he's not | ||
| going to stop until he gets to the, just very weird, very, I would say described as antics. But | ||
| when you see this sort of, I don't even want to call it a 180 because it's multiple | ||
| derivations of 180, right? | ||
| They censored and silenced people who've even dared to talk about it. | ||
| But now that they're talking about it, to me, it reads that they're trying to sort of garner the trust of the American people back, or at least look like neutral arbiters of the efficacy of vaccines. | ||
| So from your vantage point, when you see that narrative start to kind of develop, Do you think it's because they're getting ready to push, you know, another pandemic, another vaccine mandate? | ||
| Why do you think that shift is happening? | ||
| I think you use a very key term, Natalie, which is limited hangout. | ||
| And we have so many of these going on or being, you know, deployed on the population as part of this massive psychological warfare. | ||
| And they have so many different tools, right? | ||
| And I think another one of their tools or one of their goals is to create cognitive dissonance in the public. | ||
| And so they push certain information and then they push contradictory information. | ||
| They appease certain groups of people, but at the same time, they're pushing entirely different narratives that negate For example, with this sort of admission of the COVID vaccines harming people. | ||
| And meanwhile, as you pointed out, they are ramping up the narrative with this quote, bird flu scare. | ||
| All of this is about fear mongering. | ||
| Of course, we've had round one with with COVID with the COVID scare. | ||
| We know what they did there. | ||
| And there they are. | ||
| preparing the public for round two for the Scamdemic 2.0. | ||
| And, you know, they've coined it disease X. We had the monkey monkeypox scare, I think it was last year, but that one didn't stick. | ||
| We're waiting, you know, as observers to see which one they're going to pick to be, quote, disease X. It seems that it is going to be the bird flu. | ||
| There are several indicators. | ||
| Not least the fact that HHS has ordered 4.8 million doses of bird flu vaccines. | ||
| The fact that once the propaganda machine started pushing bird flu, the stocks of many vaccine manufacturing companies went up, including, you know, CureVac, in which Bill Gates and Elon Musk and the German governments are investors. | ||
| So you're seeing different signs that are pointing towards bird flu being, you know, the next scare and it was just announced, I think it was yesterday. | ||
| That a man died of the bird flu, a 59 year old man in Mexico died of the bird flu. | ||
| My question is, is it of? | ||
| Is it with? | ||
| Is it with it at all? | ||
| Does it have anything to do with the bird flu? | ||
| We cannot have an answer. | ||
| on that, because we know that they've lied so much, Natalie, in terms of the actual COVID deaths the first time around, you know, with the first round of the scamdemic, as I called it. | ||
| But there really seems to be a coordination going on. | ||
| And as you know, and your audience knows, we just concluded, well, the World Health Assembly just concluded in Geneva, the World Health Organization's annual meeting. | ||
| Which took place with the adoption of these amendments to the International Health Regulation and the extension of the negotiation period for the pandemic treaty. | ||
| But so they're putting together the building blocks for what's next, I believe. | ||
| And the main point, which is the irony that, you know, you started the show with that clip of Tedros, because the entire operation is about deploying more of these harmful products on the population. | ||
| I think so much too of the public health scam comes down to lawfare. | ||
| Obviously, we're seeing that tactic being used against President Trump, but the lawfare side of it comes in the form of, of course, you know, the pandemic treaties, these, these regulations. | ||
| From what we understand, the limited reporting that I've seen, it seems like that pandemic treaty sort of hit a, hit a wall, or in other words, they're not getting everything that they necessarily want from it, or it's going to be at least Delayed, I think is sort of what the general consensus is. | ||
| But when you, when you see that come out, I always, you know, where there's smoke, there's fire. | ||
| And when it comes to the World Health Organization, what you see is certainly not what you're getting. | ||
| You know, there's, you know, a lot, a lot of tricks and deception going on there. | ||
| So I'm just curious your thoughts on sort of the fate of that pandemic treaty, or frankly too, If they even really need one, in the sense that when you look at who is running most countries, at least right now, whether it's the actual elected officials or the sort of, you know, shady, swampy bureaucrat types, they're all basically, you know, WEF, Young Global Leaders, or somehow tied to the World Economic Forum or the United Nations, you name it. | ||
| But I'm just curious how you think they're going to roll that out. | ||
| Thank you so much, Natalie. | ||
| That's a great question. | ||
| You know, when they announced that they were not ready to present the final draft of the pandemic agreement or accord at the World Health Assembly, I immediately smelled a rat and I thought it was a decoy and I knew it wasn't over, which is why I tried to push back as best as I could last week. | ||
| Against, you know, this premature and unwarranted cry for victory. | ||
| And, you know, I did so with Steve on the show last week. | ||
| And I knew they were preparing something else, you know, during the week. | ||
| And lo and behold, what happened is that the international health regulation amendments were adopted at the very last minute in the evening of the concluding day of the WHA. | ||
| And it was also announced that it's just a question of when, not if, a pandemic agreement will be reached. | ||
| And this has been stressed by many different people, including Tedros Ghebreyesus himself, the Director General, saying, you know, where there's a will, there's a way. | ||
| Ursula von der Leyen also reiterating the commitment to reach an agreement. | ||
| And the official announcement that came out on the 1st of June is that they've extended the negotiation period. | ||
| They're going to try and actually reach an agreement by the end of this year. | ||
| Negotiations resume next month in July, but at the latest they're planning for an adoption by next year's World Health Assembly in May. | ||
| But you better believe that they're not Letting that agreement go, you know, CEPI and Gavi, you know, these vaccine pushing organizations have also come out with official statements following the announcement of the extension of the negotiation period, urging member states to reach a consensus. | ||
| So we're not out of the woods yet with regards to the pandemic treaty, but there's way enough material when it comes to the amendments of the | ||
| international health regulations for them to have a solid basis to coordinate between themselves, | ||
| between all the different stakeholders, be it our national governments, be it the corporations and | ||
| other institutions. | ||
| And the WHO essentially needs to be viewed as this coordinating body, as this broker | ||
| or facilitator of big pharma, justifying on the basis of fake crises, fake pandemics, | ||
| the manufacturing and distribution of poisonous products, be it, you know, faulty, flawed | ||
| PCR tests, drugs, and obviously experimental jabs. | ||
| Well, you're so right on the lawfare aspect. | ||
| And I also think it's a problem that's even bigger than say, just pandemic treaties or even some of these regulations. | ||
| I know something they've really been focusing on lately is the concept of, you know, an infodemic and misinformation, disinformation, right? | ||
| They've sort of broadened out, I think, their scope, the purview to what | ||
| they're looking, not just to censor, but to really go after. And I think you could make the | ||
| argument that even just, you know, curtailing our ability to talk openly about these vaccines | ||
| or pandemics, public health, however you want to couch it, is in some ways as damning | ||
| and silencing as an effect as if this pandemic treaty were to be rolled out. So I'm just | ||
| curious to more broadly look at how the lawfare emanating out, particularly of the World | ||
| Health Organization, how you think in other aspects, kind of beyond explicitly public | ||
| health stuff, you think they're going to kind of branch into and look to assert their really | ||
| power and hegemony over? | ||
| You know, there's this very, very good movie called The Devil's Advocate with Keanu Reeves | ||
| and Al Pacino. And I really encourage everybody to watch that movie. | ||
| And the devil in the movie talks about how he uses lawfare to his advantage, and looking at both The processes that the WHO utilize, they basically have rules that they don't even follow themselves. | ||
| So if you look at the adoption of these amendments, they were completely fraudulent because according to Article 55 of the IHR, they need to present a finalized draft at least four months in advance. | ||
| Uh, to, uh, the member states and the public, et cetera. | ||
| And they actually unveiled that final document moments before announcing that they were adopted. | ||
| And, you know, obviously coming back to, uh, the question of information and disinformation and how hard they are fighting against truth, uh, tellers. | ||
| Uh, I mean the news that came out today in the, in the U S where you are with regards to Steve and that insane, abhorrent travesty in terms of what the judge decided is just insane. | ||
| And, you know, I was very encouraged by Steve's speech out of the courthouse. | ||
| You know, he is absolutely right. | ||
| They cannot shut us up. | ||
| And we will fight these globalists and we will denounce them. | ||
| And we were We will expose all the tricks they have up their sleeves, including all this insane lawfare that they are waging against us in so many different ways, as we've been discussing. | ||
| So let's talk timeframe. | ||
| You know, when we're talking about these new pandemics, whether it's bird flu, I know they're pumping the whole new, you know, what is it? | ||
| Antibiotic resistance is apparently the new super bug that's deadlier than COVID. | ||
| I think that was the headline from the Guardian. | ||
| Of course, monkey pox, or if we want to be politically correct, mpox, whatever the heck that means. | ||
| That's apparently researching too, according to the CDC. | ||
| Conveniently, there's vaccines for both of those alleged viruses that the government has already been buying up to the tune of millions of doses. | ||
| Vaccines. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Yeah, we could do some live fact checking on air. | ||
| I never, I never know how to refer to them. | ||
| But I'm just curious, you know, looking downrange with the 2024 election, obviously barreling towards that, obviously timing is something that is very important. | ||
| to our ruling class look no further than the convenience when it comes to the timing of Stephen K. Bannon's prison | ||
| sentence, right, just in the run-up to the | ||
| election. But how do you think, you know, what's your sort of, you know, again | ||
| hypothetically or alleged game plan looking downrange of how you think | ||
| they're going to roll this out or what the crisis is going to be leading up to | ||
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the election? | |
| Listen, you know, when I was reporting for Steve in January from Davos when the World Economic Forum annual meeting was | ||
| taking place, it's obvious that they | ||
| will not allow for nationalist America First or, you know, any of these type of | ||
| conservative movements to get their way or at least they will do everything in | ||
| their power to stop us. | ||
| And as I mentioned, you know, we're seeing it full throttle with the lawfare that is being waged against Steve, against President Trump. | ||
| It's just relentless, you know, and obviously the January 6th defendants that are actually sitting in jail right now as | ||
| we speak. | ||
| And in terms of the tricks up their sleeve, there is so much predictive programming that | ||
| we can look to. | ||
| They're talking about pandemics. | ||
| They're talking about cyber pandemics. | ||
| That was a huge theme at Davos this past January. | ||
| And we know they've also done simulations when it comes to cyber attacks. | ||
| I reported extensively on that with Steve, and I don't want to speculate as to what is going to happen, but they are going to try, I think, to derail President Trump from getting back into the White House come November, and we need to be vigilant. | ||
| We need, more importantly, not to fall for the fear-mongering, and for those who fell for the fear-mongering the first time, certainly not to fall for it. | ||
| A second time, and I think that would be my message, you know, cutting through the noise, looking at all the propaganda, informing yourself on psychological warfare tactics, and being able to use discernment. | ||
| When you consume, you know, the news and all the information, social media, it's so layered, and it's so sophisticated. | ||
| Take a step back and Try your best to see what the information is actually meant to achieve. | ||
| What's the goal behind the information that is being shared? | ||
| And don't fall for it. | ||
| And most importantly, do not comply. | ||
| That is the one message I want to share. | ||
| Whatever they will foist upon us, Whether it's, you know, another round of a so-called pandemic, scam-demic, whatever it is, we will not comply. | ||
| We must not comply. | ||
| They've done so much harm the first time around, you know, just in terms of, quote, our health, the deaths, et cetera, with their experimental jabs, but also in terms of the destruction of the middle class, the destruction of all the independent businesses with the measures. | ||
| The measures were so detrimental to world populations and If we've learned anything the first time around is that we must not comply with these measures, whether they, you know, come from the WHO, but more importantly, if they come from our own governments who have proven to be total tyrants, make no mistake about that. | ||
| They are absolute tyrants. | ||
| And whatever they say, we must not comply this time around. | ||
| Of course, I definitely think not complying is the way to go. | ||
| I know Stephen K. Bannon is paying a hefty price for doing that, but it means you're on the right side of history. | ||
| Last question, we've got a few minutes before I let you go. | ||
| It seemed like the cyber security stuff, like the hacks, they were kind of Predictive programming, that narrative, right? | ||
| It also seemed maybe like the idea of climate change lockdowns were sort of attempted to be being mainstreamed a little bit. | ||
| Do you think they've sort of spun off of that crusade and do you think they're kind of doubling back down on the public health Scarce stuff, the pandemic type stuff, I think, evidenced by the sort of reversal on the COVID vaccines. | ||
| Or do you think these people are capable of having their hands in, what is it that the World Economic Forum calls it, poly crises? | ||
| A little redundant, but we'll let that pass. | ||
| Or do you think they're sort of concurrently pursuing all these? | ||
| What do you think their main focus is now? | ||
| Thanks so much for this question, Natalie, because it brings up something really important that I would like to say. | ||
| But to answer in short, yes, they have different avenues, and they are pushing different, you know, signups at the same time. | ||
| One key psyop that I would really like to talk about with the few minutes we have left is the civil war psyop that they are pushing heavily on the American population. | ||
| And I feel very strongly about this because I am against national divorce. | ||
| I am against You know, this Civil War 2.0 that they're trying to push. | ||
| We need a united United States of America. | ||
| They want to break up the country. | ||
| The entire plot of the globalists is the destruction of the United States of America because it is the one obstacle in their way of the new world order. | ||
| And they will stop at nothing, including trying to break up the nation in order to achieve that goal. | ||
| And I want to tell the American people That you are much more united than they want you to believe with all their propaganda in the news. | ||
| You are the majority. | ||
| America first. | ||
| Patriots are the majority. | ||
| But they want to give the illusion, the illusion of division to push that psyop and to justify, you know, a manufactured civil war into the population. | ||
| And I'm so, this is one of the key points, you know, for which I really, um, uh, admire Steve and with which I really agree with him because he has been steadfast on this issue. | ||
| And so I advise since I started speaking publicly, as soon as I see, you know, civil war trending or whatever, it really, um, makes me upset because I can see that this is very clearly a psyop that is intended. | ||
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Nora, if people want to follow you, stay up to date. | |
| I know you have a wonderful podcast. | ||
| I think it's on Rumble. | ||
| But your Twitter, you're always coming hot, as Stephen K. Bannon would say. | ||
| If people want to do all of that, where can they find you? | ||
| Thank you, Natalie. | ||
| I would suggest my substack, norbinladin.substack.com. | ||
| That's the best place to follow me because I'm very wary of Twitter and I've been very vocal against Elon Musk, as maybe the posse might be aware. | ||
| So, yeah, definitely my substack. | ||
| Nora, thank you so, so, so much for joining us on what can only be described as a historic day, not for good reason. | ||
| Nora, thank you. | ||
| Have a good one. | ||
| I'm sure we'll see you soon. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you for everything you guys do. | ||
| Well, the feeling is mutual. | ||
| And honestly, thank you to the War Room Posse for everything you guys do. | ||
| I'll give my thoughts on everything that happened today after we have our next guest. | ||
| I'll bring him in after the break. | ||
| But in the meantime, you can go to birchgold.com slash Bannon to talk to Philip Patrick and all the wonderful guys over at Birch Gold. | ||
| You know, they're always here for the Saturday shows. | ||
| That's because they're too busy during the rest of the week courting Phone calls from you guys because they actually give good financial advice. | ||
| Not like the so-called experts that are running the fat of the treasury within the Biden regime, the same Biden regime that hates your guts and apparently hates this show and hates Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Maybe while you're at it, talking about people who hate your guts. | ||
| You can go to publicsquare.com to shop companies, find businesses in your local area. | ||
| I actually, not too long ago, I shouldn't say today because I don't know if I'm a good poster child for That's salon, but I found a great salon on Public Square not too long ago, and it was so nice because I actually was able to talk to the owner of the salon about how much we both loved Trump. | ||
| He was actually a War Room fan. | ||
| It was a strange, I'd say, change of pace where I wasn't, you know, used to getting accosted for the line of work that I'm in. | ||
| So I highly recommend checking out Public Square to find businesses, products, companies, people, you name it, who share your viewpoints. | ||
| I think now, more than ever, today should not be lost on anyone. | ||
| I hate your freaking guts and want to throw you in prison, brainwash and indoctrinate your kids, and laugh while it's happening. | ||
| These are sick, sick people. | ||
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We'll get into more of that after the break. | |
| you Welcome back to the war room. | ||
| Quite, quite a day. | ||
| Uh, I guess we're going to cover something hopefully a little bit lighter. | ||
| Like I said, I'll, I'll save some time at the end of this block for me to give you, I won't say updates. | ||
| I'm not deputized to give me the updates on everything here in the war room, but just my, my personal thoughts on everything that's gone down. | ||
| But someone who makes beautiful, wonderful art that is worth looking at much better than | ||
| any of this AI-generated stuff you're used to seeing or this satanic worshipping stuff | ||
| that comes—or frankly, we'll just call it modern art, it's so ugly—is Saban Howard, | ||
| who's a wonderful sculptor who's been on this show many times. | ||
| Now we don't usually talk about everything going on with Steve on this show. | ||
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I know he doesn't like to, but I'm hosting, so I get to make the decision. | |
| I know you said you wanted to say a few things about what we saw go down today. | ||
| If you would like to say anything, please feel free. | ||
| Well, you know, it's kind of odd, because as an artist, you're really an outsider from | ||
| You're already cancelled from the day you're born. | ||
| Artists are not thinking within a box, within a confinement, that have a sense of limitless potentiality, what can be. | ||
| At least the good ones are that way, because if you follow, the game's over. | ||
| You're never going to make it as an artist. | ||
| So I've been doing this for 40 years now. | ||
| My studio was in the South Bronx. | ||
| I was in East Harlem and I was making Renaissance art, which was super esoteric, right? | ||
| And then I saw that I could spin my wheels till eternity doing that. | ||
| And I entered the competition for the National World War Memorial. | ||
| I saw it was a moment that could make a change. | ||
| It's a pretty serious moment right now, because there's a lot of stuff going on in many, many sectors that are about tearing down. | ||
| In my sector, the idea is, let's tear down Western civilization, let's tear down monuments, all in the name of, you know, virtue, virtuousness. | ||
| It's a load of BS. | ||
| When you tear things down, you leave a void. | ||
| And when you have a void, you can rewrite history. | ||
| I am making a sculpture that speaks about this country's history in World War I. The soldiers that went off to war 100 years ago, to World War I, were neither Democrats, Republicans. | ||
| They all had the same freaking color blood. | ||
| It was red. | ||
| They were Americans. | ||
| It's time to think about it in those terms like your previous guest said. | ||
| Divisiveness is a collapse of a country. | ||
| Unification is the empowerment of a people. | ||
| And this sculpture is completely driven towards that very point, unifying us all. | ||
| I have a sculpture with 38 figures. | ||
| It's 60 feet long. | ||
| And it weighs 25 tons. | ||
| And the figures involved in it, it's called A Soldier's Journey, are from all walks of life. | ||
| They are all Americans. | ||
| I used veterans, six veterans, all of them with PTSD. | ||
| I used six different women. | ||
| I used children. | ||
| And I used people that had experienced life on the battlefield. | ||
| They had fought for our freedoms, and what are our freedoms? | ||
| Our freedoms are the choice to be what you wish to be with the energy that God has given you. | ||
| It is the equivalent of manifesting your own destiny. | ||
| And that's what this sculpture is about. | ||
| And it's very, very important at this moment, historically. | ||
| You can't separate art and the real world. | ||
| It's like art is part of culture and culture is humanity. | ||
| And so if you are making art and culture that is ironic, that is debasing, that is derogatory and negative, that is the way you perceive yourself. | ||
| So I'm saying no, that's enough of that. | ||
| The modern art movement is a giant scam that's been perpetuated for 100 years, and I'm telling you now, I am dropping this in to Washington on September 13th, and at 7.19 p.m., we are going to do a candlelit vigil. | ||
| And that candlelit vigil is to say yay to unification, yay to positive upliftment, yay to culture, Western civilization, enough Is enough. | ||
| It's time to do something different that speaks well of us. | ||
| And that's why I made this art. | ||
| That's why I'm engaged with the Italian Renaissance Greco-Roman art. | ||
| And I'm playing forward tradition. | ||
| And I want to say, Steve, we are with you. | ||
| And thank you for doing what you do and allowing me to speak on this show, because it's one of the few and rare shows that lets me really have a voice. | ||
| I'm outside of the art narrative. | ||
| And Steve recognizes that. | ||
| I've been curtailed in my messaging, and so thank you for allowing me to speak today. | ||
| Thank you, Natalie. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Well, we're always honored to have you on. | ||
| I think so often when you hear, whether it's art or frankly sculptures, I think they get a particularly bad rap in today's society. | ||
| Whenever it's in the news cycle, it's usually for a bad reason, right? | ||
| It's because they're wanting to tear it down. | ||
| It's because, oh, it's a racist past. | ||
| It's sexist, misogynist, insert whatever ad hominem attack you want. | ||
| They always seem to use those same slurs against the MAGA movement. | ||
| But I'm just curious, you know, with what you're doing and feel free to kind of go into the process behind it, the just creativity behind it. | ||
| But how unique is it to be introducing, right, a new form of art now, when I think for so long, like I was saying, we've seen this really become sort of the forefront of the battle, or at least in some ways an extension of the battle for Western culture. | ||
| So knowing that, I'm sure you probably share my same viewpoint on that. | ||
| You know, how did that guide you in crafting this sculpture, or rather all these sculptures? | ||
| That's a really good question, Natalie. | ||
| I don't know how to do anything else. | ||
| I studied this for 40 years. | ||
| I did this, you know, like a 40 hour job a week. | ||
| If you do the math, I looked at life models for I think between 75 and 80,000 hours. | ||
| So my training is like super deep and extensive. | ||
| And I'm not like just working in a vacuum. | ||
| It's like I didn't just make this up. | ||
| I looked at all my predecessors, the legends, the heroes of art, and it's like if you look at the civilizations that are like doing really well historically in the past. | ||
| It's like Florence, the Medici tombs, Michelangelo's David. | ||
| These are all representations of a culture and people. | ||
| The art was done to elevate the human spirit and make the citizens feel like they belong to something that was cohesive and they were part of that whole. | ||
| And so that's not what's going on today. | ||
| It's like I went through a system in the art School, Philadelphia College of Art, it actually shut down last week, where I was taught how to make that type of art, where we looked at figures and they were proportioned as they did in the Renaissance. | ||
| They were constructed with the same ideology of using the skeleton as the architecture of the body, and then the muscles are the energetic forces that spin around. | ||
| It's like a vocabulary that I learned. | ||
| decimated, completely taken out of the picture. | ||
| And I'm like a dinosaur that survived. | ||
| And this is amazing that this sculpture, it's like the largest figurative piece in the Northwestern Hemisphere. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| And it's 150 yards from the White House. | ||
| I mean, it's a hell of a statement. | ||
| It's saying, whoa, people, here's the option. | ||
| This is the option. | ||
| And it's not separate from what happened today. | ||
| It's not at all. | ||
| Because Steve is saying, people, stand for what you believe in. | ||
| And that's what this art does. | ||
| It stands for what we believe in as a general populace. | ||
| I'm just curious. | ||
| We obviously cover AI on this show a lot. | ||
| We have Joe Allen who comes on and sort of drills down into how that's affecting mainstream culture. | ||
| I always say allowing them to sort of technologically and just systematically really input through algorithms, whatever you want to call it, Their view, their conception of the world that is not rooted in tradition or anything creative or anything that embraces humanity, right? | ||
| It's anti-mankind. | ||
| I think you see remnants of that in the whole climate change alarmist movement too, right? | ||
| It's this cultish ideology. | ||
| I was going through Twitter in preparation for having you on and I saw you had some interesting thoughts on just how AI is sort of, for lack of a better word, just nuking art in its traditional sense. | ||
| I think the audience would really love from your kind of, you know, first-hand view of exhibiting, or rather existing in the art world, how AI is being mainstreamed to sort of really just do away with human creativity and just the spirit that is humanity. | ||
| Let's set the standard right, for example. | ||
| How long does it take to have—what's the gestation period for a child in womb? | ||
| Nine months, correct? | ||
| Are you going to tell me that AI can do this better? | ||
| Are you going to tell me that AI can do better the days and the nights and the way that the Moon and the Sun rise and set, and the way that the Earth orbits the Sun? | ||
| These are the laws of nature. | ||
| I am working within that context. | ||
| I am not working in the context of technology. | ||
| You cannot usurp the power of nature. | ||
| Our brains are in the same category as human beings. | ||
| We have unlimited potential in our thought process. | ||
| If someone uses their brain to their full potential, it is more powerful than a computer. | ||
| A computer is data. | ||
| AI is data. | ||
| It is about numbers. | ||
| It is mathematical reasoning and how things are assembled in data. | ||
| It does not even challenge or come close to what someone can do in Art, literature, or any other avenue that you choose. | ||
| And I'll tell you why. | ||
| Because technology forgets one thing that cannot be replaced, that humans have. | ||
| We as humans have three very powerful things going on. | ||
| We can work with our hands, we can work with our brains, and we can work with our hearts. | ||
| And the hard part is what a machine does not have. | ||
| It has a digital fingerprint. | ||
| It does not have the human fingerprint. | ||
| The human fingerprint takes into consideration history, values, and things that are sacred. | ||
| The machine has no differentiation between anything. | ||
| Everything is of equal value. | ||
| Therefore, whoever programs that machine can push forward the message that they wish to perpetuate upon the masses. | ||
| It's really another case of the Emperor's New Clothes. | ||
| Technology cannot solve our problems. | ||
| We have gone backwards in many ways because we have given away, we have disempowered ourselves of the strengths that humans and humanity hold. | ||
| If you go to the gym and you lift weight, The resistance makes you stronger. | ||
| You need the resistance in your life, in all parts of life, to become what you can be. | ||
| It's the only way that you can challenge technology. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| So Saban, for the War Room Posse, who, as I'm sure, are very intrigued by everything you're working on after everything you've just said, give us one more time how it's being rolled out, where it's going to be if people, you know, either want to support you by either showing up with their presence or get involved, you know, what kind of avenues exist for them to do that? | ||
| OK, so we have a couple of things going on that are very important. | ||
| Obviously, the date of the unveiling on September 13th, Pershing Square Park, right opposite the Willard Hotel, 150 yards from the White House, at 7.19, we have a candlelit vigil. | ||
| The candlelit vigil is the ringing of a bell and the explanation of the narrative, the visual narrative, in this sculpture called A Soldier's Journey. | ||
| And at that time, there will be a lot of veterans that are honored because this is the first time a sculpture has ever been done to represent their individual story. | ||
| The soldier's story of leaving home, the family entering into battle and conflict, and then what happens from that, the transformation of the soldier and returning home. | ||
| So that is very important. | ||
| It's not only about World War I, it's about human beings. | ||
| And it's about rising up and saying, yes, we are a unified country under the auspice of the Constitution and the history of this country, which shall not be changed. | ||
| This sculpture was commissioned by the Centennial Commission, and their intention was to make a piece for the average Joe to see and understand What does World War I look like? | ||
| But that is not only a historical representation of that war, it explains all wars. | ||
| And so it has a universal message of caring and feeling. | ||
| Every single one of those figures is interrelated with the figure next to it. | ||
| It is exactly the way society should be, not the separation and nihilism that modernism has created. | ||
| I am saying let's go back to a previous era and uphold those tenets of interconnected | ||
| unity. | ||
| So that's the first thing. | ||
| Then my wife, Tracy Slatton, will be releasing a documentary in the spring called Heroic. | ||
| Heroic shows the day-to-day makings of this memorial in the studio. | ||
| It's a very intimate look into what happened in our shop. | ||
| Made by human beings for human beings. | ||
| You know, that's a big deal. | ||
| And lastly, I wrote a book about this. | ||
| The challenges I had as an artist facing the art world and the BS that, you know, I had to go up against, ostracize and push to the outside. | ||
| New York Times did not want me in, you know, I had a A very, very nice piece on me and they tried to take it out because it was too complimentary. | ||
| This is about, you know, 15 years ago. | ||
| So complete silence from mainstream media. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| We're still going to get out there because this is the truth and the truth will always shine a light on darkness. | ||
| So, those are the things you can reach me by looking at my website, SabinHoward.com. | ||
| I'm on Twitter, I'm on Instagram. | ||
| It's like I am an art for the people. | ||
| We the people, not the elites. | ||
| I really, you know, would love if you would come see this sculpture when we unveil it and make a statement to the world about how important we are as human beings. | ||
| The art's a representation of us. | ||
| Saban, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| I really appreciate it. | ||
| If people want to follow you or your wife, anything like that, last chance. | ||
| Your social media coordinates, where can they go to do that? | ||
| Well, the documentaries, what do we look for? | ||
| HeroicDocumentary.com. | ||
| HeroicDocumentary.com, SabanHoward.com, and on Twitter, SabanHoward, Instagram, SabanHowardSculpture. | ||
| And let's just remember today is the 80th anniversary of D-Day. | ||
| It's a lot of men that died today to maintain our freedoms and show that you got behind this country. | ||
| They gave of themselves. | ||
| You can't give of yourself any more than you know fully, physically and mentally, is what happened on that beach. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you to those guys as well. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us and I echo your sentiment. | ||
| You have a good one. | ||
| I really appreciate it. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Warren Posse, while you're at it, maybe you can check out Jace Medical so you don't have to be reliant on these evil big pharma globalists, the ones that probably want you to have monkey pox and what else, COVID and all the things they're going to come up with in the next few months. | ||
| Don't buy into it. | ||
| Go to JaceMedical.com. | ||
| You can be self-reliant. | ||
| That is an American virtue that I always aspire to be. | ||
| And we've got a few minutes left in the show. | ||
| We don't have any other guests. | ||
| I know you guys like it when I rant, so... | ||
| There's enough to rant about today that I think I can fill four minutes. | ||
| I know Steve doesn't usually talk a lot about, you know, all the legal stuff going on, and I always have respected his decision to do that. | ||
| But, you know, as the co-host of the show, as someone who has had the honor of working with Steve since I was, I think, 19. | ||
| I met him when I was 18, but that was back in the era where there were no women in the war room allowed. | ||
| I remember I had interned for Rahim and I came home That summer, before I got ready to matriculate and go to the University of Chicago, and I remember telling my parents in my living room, I'd literally just flown back from DC, and I had said, mark my words, I will work for Steve Bannon one day. | ||
| He will know, at that point, I think it was just, he will know who I am. | ||
| That's like, that was my life goal. | ||
| And evidently I accomplished it through hard work and because this The country is a wonderful country where you can do anything you set your mind to. | ||
| But, you know, not to make this about myself, but for my own personal journey, when I was growing up in Los Angeles at one of the furthest left high schools in existence, I swear to God I say this to my core, if I had not watched Steve Bannon's Oxford Union Address, I guess I would have been in 11th grade or 12th, maybe 12th, maybe even 10th grade. | ||
| I wouldn't be sitting here today. | ||
| And I don't mean in that sense. | ||
| I just mean I would have gone down a very different path with my life because I would not have had my eyes opened so early to the brutal reality that is the United States of America that we live in, that it's not Republican versus Democrat. | ||
| It's not black versus white. | ||
| It's not anything versus anything except us versus them. | ||
| And that's what this show is about, exposing the them, the they, right? | ||
| Who want to mandate the vaccines, make public health this like weird thing that they can use to exercise control over us. | ||
| We saw that with COVID-19 and they've ratcheted up those attacks because we're so effective, right? | ||
| That's why they threw Navarro in jail. | ||
| That's why they want to throw Savannah in jail. | ||
| That's why they're going to, at least by July 1st. | ||
| That's why they're doing what to Trump they're doing right now. | ||
| And You know, I just reflect on my life, and I know Steve Bannon has played such a pivotal role in that, not just he changed my personal philosophy on all things politics, but just on life. | ||
| I mean, it's so funny to me. | ||
| I guess, you know, No, and I guess I have good job security. | ||
| I can't lose my job because you're going to need me. | ||
| But Steve hates when we talk so nicely about him, but you know, Steve is just one of the kindest people ever. | ||
| And it's so funny to me when you see him just get constantly harangued by the press and when you see Merrick Garland and all these evil to their core people putting him through hell and that's what it is. | ||
| I have never met someone who has been so kind, empowering. | ||
| I mean, I truly look up to him like a father figure, has given me such good advice, and when I've been going through difficult things, has always been there for me. | ||
| I won't get emotional, because I know Steve would really not like that, but Steve Bannon really is a one-of-a-kind figure, and I know most of you who watch this show probably view him through the lens of a political pundit, you know, and he's so much more than that. | ||
| That's demeaning. | ||
| That's derogatory. | ||
| He really is someone who we are so lucky and beyond blessed to know and have, and he's not going anywhere. | ||
| I'm sure they're going to work this out, but I think it just has to be said that Steve Bannon truly is just a one-of-a-kind individual, not just in my life. | ||
| I mean, he truly changed the trajectory of my life and gave me a chance just because I was a hard worker. | ||
| And I don't think there are a lot of people like that. | ||
| And honestly, having lived in D.C. | ||
| for so long, that town is full of sick creeps. | ||
| I won't cuss because I know I'm on air. | ||
| But Steve is the only person, one of the few people, who has never been like a typical D.C. | ||
| person. | ||
| And it's funny that the system always seems to go after those who are actually good, genuine, decent, America-first human beings. | ||
| I don't really know where I'm going to end this, but Steve Bannon really is a one-of-a-kind hero. | ||
| I know that the audience knows this, and I'm truly honored to work for him and serve in any capacity. |
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