May 25, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room, Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Rishi wants out. | ||
| We are actually at war with Russia now. | ||
| We've got, we've got... I just haven't told you. | ||
| I haven't told you. | ||
| Say that again? | ||
| We're actually at war with Russia now. | ||
| I met with Andrei Kelin, the Russian ambassador in London a couple of months ago and he said that we know that your people are firing those storm shadow missiles at us out of Ukraine because you couldn't train the Ukrainians to do it. | ||
| We know you're doing it and I mean everything everybody knows that everybody knows that there are lots of US UK, French, the French are in there. | ||
| I thought it was the Brits were down on the ground and special advisors. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Training sessions and teaching them and showing them. | ||
| Isn't that how- But they were apparently- That's how we started with the Vietnam War. | ||
| Vietnam War, yeah. | ||
| Dude, what the f*** are we doing poking the bear? | ||
| That's really stupid. | ||
| They're determined to get us into a war with Russia and thank God we've got someone in Putin who at least has got some brains. | ||
| Now you sound like a Putin lover. | ||
| Well I'm not. | ||
| I'm not convinced any of them are any good but at the end of the day if you look at the facts since 91 We've moved NATO a thousand miles nearer to Moscow. | ||
| They haven't moved nearer to us. | ||
| No, they haven't. | ||
| And if you think about what we were trying to do, the EU wanted to bring in Ukraine, for whatever reason, and NATO wanted it and they'd have put missiles on the border of Russia. | ||
| Well, I mean, what did America do when the old Soviet Union tried to put missiles in Cuba 90 miles off the Florida coast? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| They weren't having it, were they? | ||
| No. | ||
| And if you look back, the Russians have told us for long enough Ukraine's got to remain neutral. | ||
| You know, we're not going to let it get... I mean, they've told us this for a very long time. | ||
| So hold on a sec. | ||
| You said Rishi wants out... Rishi doesn't want to be a... Rishi's told the generals he doesn't want to be a wartime Prime Minister. | ||
| Really? | ||
| So who's calling the shots? | ||
| Is it the generals? | ||
| Or the Prime Minister? | ||
| Or someone else? | ||
| Because... Oh, it's someone above Rishi. | ||
| I mean, you don't really think that Rishi and Starmer... I mean, the whole thing's a pantomime in Parliament. | ||
| So I keep saying... It's a pantomime. | ||
| So I keep saying... Oh no, it's not. | ||
| Oh yes, it is. | ||
| I keep saying that our political system, we have this illusion of democracy, it's BS, it's a uniparty system, and they're puppets, and they're people pulling the strings. | ||
| Is that what's happening? | ||
| That's what's happening. | ||
| And the next general election, I now realise, and I've been, I was beguiled by it for years, I mean I've stood, I've won it four elections as a Conservative. | ||
| The next election. | ||
| It's not, it's none of them. | ||
| They haven't been, it's not a race between the blue and the red team to see who crosses the finishing line. | ||
| This is a baton handover. | ||
| On all the big issues, net zero, Covid response, the WHO, the trans agenda. | ||
| Who's pushing it then? | ||
| Who's pushing it? | ||
| Who's pulling the levers? | ||
| It's agenda 2030. | ||
| It's the World Economic Forum, the 0.1 of a percent of the richest people in the world. | ||
| The globalists? | ||
| The globalists, yeah. | ||
| Listen, to make money, all we need is next week's newspapers today, wouldn't we? | ||
| Well, if you own next week's newspapers, you know what's going to happen and what's going to be reported, regardless of what the facts are. | ||
| And that's the position these days. | ||
| So we're heading for more? | ||
| Is that what you're saying? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We're actually already in it. | ||
| They're not going to tell the people probably till July or August. | ||
| Maybe a bit later. | ||
| And I think Rishi wants out. | ||
| Hold on one second. | ||
| I mean, if we go to war with Russia, we're talking about potentially nuclear war. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Do they understand what they're playing with here? | ||
| We're not playing with fire! | ||
| I know, I know, and it goes against all our defence thinking. | ||
| We have nuclear weapons, so no one would do that to us. | ||
| So why would we do it to someone who's got 20 times more nuclear, 30 times more nuclear weapons than we've got? | ||
| And not just that, their air defence capability, the S-500, I mean it's a million times better than what we've got. | ||
| We've got nothing compared to that. | ||
| We've got nothing that can stop any of their What is it? | ||
| We've got Arrow or something? | ||
| I mean, that can't do jack shit with their hypersonic missiles. | ||
| I've seen a report that we just do not have any defence for the UK against the Russian arsenal. | ||
| Because you know they've got hypersonic missiles. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| We've got nothing against that. | ||
| Nothing against that. | ||
| It's Friday, 24 May in the year of our Lord 2024. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| I've got Harnwell in Rome and Rahim with me. | ||
| First, Ben, who did we just hear? | ||
| It's one of the most interesting takes on this entire fiasco because you really can't get, I've read all the papers, you really can't get a good handle on this. | ||
| Is this the missing link or is this just more fantasy? | ||
| Good afternoon, Steve. | ||
| That's Andrew Bridgen, who is the member of Parliament for North West Leicestershire, which is my geographical area of the country, by the way. | ||
| He's been an MP since 2010. | ||
| Presumably he's not going to, you know, he's had the whip withdrawn. | ||
| He's no longer in the Tory party since April last year. | ||
| So presumably he's now in the twilight of his parliamentary career. | ||
| Interestingly, he had the whip withdrawn because he tweeted out a comment ...saying that the Covid vaccines were the greatest crime against humanity since the Holocaust. | ||
| And he was actually, he wasn't offering necessarily his own opinion there, he was simply quoting what an Israeli cardiologist had said to him. | ||
| So that's his background, an independent thinker, very principled, tough guy. | ||
| What he said in that interview just now that we heard is absolutely fascinating and I think it really covers some of the background that you, me, Raheem, yesterday on the show, which we're trying to sort of work out because all three of us basically said unanimously but independently of having consulted with one another, this really doesn't make any sense for Rishi to call the election now. | ||
| There's no strategic, compelling strategic reason for him to do this. | ||
| In fact, it would actually be counterproductive. | ||
| What Andrew Bridgen said there, I think, fills in that gap, because he basically says, quoting UK generals, that Rishi has told him he doesn't want to be a wartime Prime Minister. | ||
| So he's going now, calling an election, which presumably he has no interest in actually winning. | ||
| So that's the background on that. | ||
| I think the question which he didn't answer, which was a very good question, was in that case, who is pulling the strings in the UK? | ||
| Well, I think me, you and Rahim have actually done quite well over the past two years on Ukraine in guessing this as well. | ||
| In fact, what we said about Boris Johnson in real time two years ago turned out to be absolutely the case. | ||
| It's the United States that's pulling the strings I have more to say on this, but I give way to Rahim, because the one thing that hasn't come out, not in this interview, really, I don't think, and not in the other declarations today on behalf of | ||
| Rishi Sunak himself and Nigel Farage is the Ukraine situation vis-a-vis this general election. | ||
| But I think that's a fascinating, very telling interview, Pisa. | ||
| And it's interesting, Steve, that you have to be out of the Tory party in order to be able to say the truth. | ||
| Rahim, and I'm glad to say that Nigel Kind of took our, I guess, our advice that we all three gave him about staying out. | ||
| We'll get to that in a second. | ||
| But explain to the audience who Andrew Bridgton is, because this is quite fascinating, and his position as whip. | ||
| Is where the original show, House of Cards, right? | ||
| House of Cards, the lead, the lead actor played the whip, played the whip here in the United States in the House of Representatives. | ||
| But I think he was a whip in the, I thought it was a whip in the Tory party or maybe the Labour party that the show, the whip is a very senior position. | ||
| So this guy was a power player. | ||
| Yes, Steve. | ||
| I mean, Andrew Bridgen and Nigel Farage actually have quite a lot in common going back before the Brexit referendum. | ||
| And Bridgen himself was quite the campaigner for leaving the European Union. | ||
| There's been some overlap there. | ||
| And Andrew, who I know personally, by the way, or have known personally in a previous life, you know, is often ahead of, I mean, not just where the Tory party Should be, but where no Conservative MP still dare to go in terms of the issues he talks about and raises. | ||
| And it's no surprise that he, even though he doesn't have a party in a party apparatus, he remains an extremely popular local member of Parliament. | ||
| You saw there, I mean, he understands. | ||
| Nigel has a phrase for it. | ||
| I'm sure he got it from, it dates back older as well. | ||
| And I'm allowed to use this word because I'm not using it in the American sense. | ||
| He says, You can't put a fag paper between the Conservatives and the Labour Partisans. | ||
| A fag paper being a cigarette paper, what you roll tobacco with. | ||
| This was the case that was beat. | ||
| Yeah, fact paper. | ||
| This was a case that was being made across the country, you will remember, in those town halls, in those gymnasiums, gymnasia, on the run-up to the Brexit vote. | ||
| The Uniparty will continue being the Uniparty and it really needs some serious semblance of change now that brings us to this election. | ||
| You know, Rishi Sunak absolutely called this election early because of Nigel Farage. | ||
| I appreciate Ben's comments on that too. | ||
| I think that's also correct. | ||
| But they wanted Nigel out of this race completely, by the way. | ||
| They won't get that completely because he still will be campaigning across the country with his Reform Party, even though he's not personally standing for a seat in Parliament. | ||
| It's complicated, it's messy, and it will necessarily end up with Britain having a very far-left Labour government. | ||
| And I was talking to somebody who will probably be in the next Trump administration just last night who expressed serious concern over the... I'm not even going to... | ||
| Sugarcoat this, the mental capacity or rather mental deficiency that is being expressed by leading members of the Labour shadow cabinet right now and I think a lot of these people are kind of scratching their heads and saying how could we possibly end up working with Britain in any way shape or form if these morons are in the cabinet next time. | ||
| It's going to be a very big deal. | ||
| What do you think, I want to get to that in a moment, what do you think about his, I mean it's pretty explosive what he says. | ||
| He, and correct me if I'm wrong, and I'll start with you and go back to Ben, but he's saying that we're actually already, no matter what they're telling you, we're already engaged in combat against Russian forces. | ||
| That the UK specialist They're able to fire these missiles. | ||
| You can't train the Ukrainians fast enough or they can't pick up on it. | ||
| This is UK. | ||
| And he's also talking about French. | ||
| He mentioned Americans. | ||
| And he says, you know, Ritchie Sunak has had these briefings. | ||
| He doesn't want any part of this. | ||
| He does not want to be a wartime prime minister. | ||
| And if he doesn't get out now, that's how this is going to devolve over the summer. | ||
| In fact, I think they actually pick a time where it will become more evident, August, September. | ||
| What are your thoughts? | ||
| Has this guy been a conspiracy theory guy that really puts a tinfoil hat on? | ||
| Or is he, as you're saying, has a tendency or history to be ahead of things and have the courage when you're ahead of things in your thinking to be able to put it out there? | ||
| Well, look, Andrew Bridget is definitely out there, but out there is where you need to be. | ||
| He's certainly not any further out there than you or I, but I definitely wouldn't call myself a shrinking violet, and he isn't one either. | ||
| He's very much willing to put both feet forward on an issue and doesn't really concern himself with the incoming as a result of that. | ||
| There are very few people like that. | ||
| In the United Kingdom today, we often get chased out and we look for freer places where we can express ourselves easier. | ||
| I've no doubt in my mind that, you know, were I to have tweeted some of the things I tweeted back from my apartment in... | ||
| I would have already been arrested, and I'm deadly serious when I say it. | ||
| It's a deeply, deeply concerning thing. | ||
| But it's true. | ||
| And you see people getting arrested for things like that all the time. | ||
| And Bridgen was chased out of not one, but two political parties for expressing himself, for daring to host a member of the Alternative for Deutschland party, for daring to talk about the Covid vaccines, and so on and so forth. | ||
| So, look, he's definitely prescient. | ||
| Hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| Full stop, full stop. | ||
| You know, Ben has picked up the baton for you now that he's our editor of all things international and you're running National Pollster today. | ||
| But I consider you, in the entire world, one of the experts, if not the expert, on exactly what's really going on in Ukraine. | ||
| And the reason was, as you remember, in your first couple years running Breitbart London, you talked me into, you know, you going over there and being part of this. | ||
| You saw something that other people didn't see, and when you got there, you saw more of it, and you dead spot on called the color revolution, Victoria Nuland. | ||
| This is back in 13 or 14, right? | ||
| Do you believe when he says this, do you believe when he says this, That we're actually saying something that's a very cross a red line. | ||
| That we actually have specialists that are equivalent to combat troops that are in Ukraine now, manning weapon stations, manning radars, manning the equipment you need to launch UK-based missiles, US-manufactured, French, British, too | ||
| far advanced for the Ukrainian forces into Russia and specifically against the Russian | ||
| army, sir? | ||
| We have always been at war in Eurasia and I will remind you that the coup itself was an act of war. | ||
| And here's why that's important. | ||
| Because if they were willing to do that, and we know they were willing to do that, then there is nothing that they're not willing to do. | ||
| They already overthrew a government. | ||
| They already supplied and gave material support to their preferred political faction in Ukraine. | ||
| And so I have no doubt. | ||
| I have no doubt. | ||
| And I don't think, by the way, that Andrew Bridgen is necessarily ahead of this. | ||
| He may be one of the only people with a massive audience saying it, but I think there is this kind of quiet understanding out there right now that that isn't just the case right now, but has been the case now for a very long time. | ||
| Throughout most of this war, throughout most of this hot war, that has been the case. | ||
| That is why when you talk about boots on the ground, and we try to bring that up as a conversation point with establishment people, and I see them all the time, you know, talking to people here on Capitol Hill, downtown in DC, they kind of scoff at it, as in like, yeah, dude, that's already been happening. | ||
| We don't, this wouldn't be a new development. | ||
| So the answer is yes, that is absolutely, in my estimation, by my sourcing, that absolutely is the case. | ||
| And then you would say when we just went through this Ukraine funding fiasco six weeks ago and Johnson said, oh, I've talked to NATO generals. | ||
| I've been, I've gotten the security briefings and I really know what's going on. | ||
| He never mentioned at the time, in fact, there was a lot of controversy about how engaged in combat we were, how engaged in this, that he purposely withheld that information. | ||
| Oh absolutely, absolutely. | ||
| And of course, you know, listen, there's been no proper congressional oversight over this since day one. | ||
| And I don't mean day one, you know, two years ago. | ||
| I mean day one when this was still, you know, a spark in the eye of Victoria Nuland as she planned this all out. | ||
| I haven't gone through and figured out and subpoenaed all of her decision-making processes and all of that to figure out, hey, how are we actually involved in a war that has not been authorized by Congress here? | ||
| Again, right, I thought the lesson was learned. | ||
| I thought the whole thing about Iraq, about Afghanistan, about the Arab Spring, the interventions in Libya, in Syria, I thought when they had Hillary Clinton Up there. | ||
| You know, in a post-Benghazi world, there have been some lessons learned. | ||
| Clearly not. | ||
| Clearly nobody is interested in getting to the bottom of how this occurred. | ||
| And we know this because we actually bothered to do the research, right? | ||
| And I actually bothered to go there. | ||
| And remember, Steve, who came on this show as well when they were talking about the, you know, the counteroffensive, the counteroffenses. | ||
| And I stared down this camera and I said, there is no counteroffensive. | ||
| They don't have it. | ||
| It's a PSYOP. | ||
| And just in the very same way, we're experiencing that now. | ||
| Ben, Harnwell, is this tied to this report that the Russians are saying now, and they've told the British government, if we're hit by UK missiles in Russia, that we consider that an act of war, sir? | ||
| I think it is absolutely tied into that context, and that's a message that Moscow has been repeating for many months now. | ||
| I don't think anyone is paying any attention to that deliberately because, of course, if they were to pay attention to that, they would need to take note of that. | ||
| I want to come back to something that Rahim was saying, and this might be an opportunity for anyone If it is true what Andrew Bridgen has said, and as Rahim has just indicated, he's not the only person who has been saying this, that the Brits, the French, the Americans have troops on active duty out there in Ukraine. | ||
| In fact, Bridgen himself just said specifically that they're firing the Storm Shadow missiles because the Ukrainians can't do that. | ||
| The Geneva Convention requires active combatants to wear a uniform to distinguish them from civilians. | ||
| So here's my question, and I would like to see this FOIA'd. | ||
| I don't think in the UK or in the US they will answer it, but not answering that is in itself an answer. | ||
| Are we abiding by the Geneva Convention, right? | ||
| If we have presence there, because if this whole shtick of this war is that we're there to defend the international rules-based order, let's be doing that and not undermining it. | ||
| Rahim, I've got a few minutes. | ||
| I'd like to hold both you guys through because I want to talk Nikki Haley, domestic politics, here in a minute, but I want to finish. | ||
| Niger Farage took your advice, or the collective advice, I guess, of Ben, me and you, and he's taken, he announced he's taking a pass on this. | ||
| Can you walk us through that? | ||
| Yeah, and don't forget Alexandra, who has been also heavily leaned towards that, one of the very active War Room Posse members, who's been helping make that decision too, and I think I think it's a serious decision for him to make. | ||
| He actually said in his video that he posted on social media that he knows he's kind of got one big political roll of the dice left in him and this ain't it. | ||
| And that's correct. | ||
| Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, will have known that, will have taken that into serious consideration when timing this thing for July the 4th. | ||
| It doesn't really give somebody like Nigel Farage, who isn't currently an incumbent anywhere, to figure out which seat to run in, establish a base, | ||
| get out there again, I'll repeat what I said yesterday. | ||
| In British politics, we don't have television, radio advertising, | ||
| that's prescribed. | ||
| You really communicate with voters at town hall events through leafleting and other kind of hyper localized thing. | ||
| And by the way, the max spending cap for the 30 days out of an election in the UK | ||
| is about 10,000 pounds, or at least was the last time I checked. | ||
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Compare that to your elections and it's really... £10,000? | |
| They're bar tabs. | ||
| They spend two and a half billion. | ||
| It's £10,000? | ||
| Rahim, if this would... because you're the first one to mention it. | ||
| That a lot of people said that Sunak, before he found out he didn't want to be a wartime prime minister, Sunak did this to jump Nigel's announcement in a couple weeks. | ||
| If Nigel had made that, if they had not mentioned anything and it still looked like it was going to be November or in January 25, would that announcement in two weeks have been Nigel, or would it have been different? | ||
| Would Nigel have gotten into the race in some capacity with reform? | ||
| I think if the election were later, Nigel would have gotten in. | ||
| He would have been far more inclined to. | ||
| I think the announcement was going to be, look, if that is the case, if there is a constituency that we can identify that we can compete in, then yes, he would have. | ||
| But it's extremely difficult. | ||
| I mean, when we ran him for Parliament, I think for the seventh time or something in 2015, he at least had the incumbency of being a member of the European Parliament representing the South East, which was where the seat was that he was fighting for, the British Parliament. | ||
| Pardon the confusion. | ||
| I know it seems far-flung for a lot of people, but in an electoral sense he doesn't have any | ||
| of that right now. And yes, he's on television a lot, and yes, he's beloved by much of the nation, | ||
| but again, fighting a British parliamentary seat is very different from that. And we found that out | ||
| the hard way in 2015 when we got, you know, 13% of the national vote ended up with one seat in a | ||
| parliament of 650 seats. | ||
| So there's been a big amount of talk about proportional representation as a result of those sorts of results. | ||
| It won't happen this time. | ||
| And we will see, I think, a massive, massive Labour far left, by the way, far, far left, way to the left of your Democrats' government in very short order. | ||
| Ben, we had talked about, you had actually said a couple of months ago, hey, I may have to relocate to being with the Westminster lobby press because there's a tectonic plate shift going on in British politics. | ||
| Are we going to see, is this where we're going to see, is this the triggering event right now? | ||
| The snap election on the 4th of July? | ||
| It could well be, but you know, I'm not sure whether it is going to be an independent state for the Brits. | ||
| I'm not least given the choice, as Raheem says, you can't get a fag paper, a cigarette paper between the two major parties. | ||
| I want to come back again to something that Raheem said. | ||
| Look, in our New Year's Eve show, I picked out my story. | ||
| I did a review of it and I said, this is going to the story that's going to dominate from 2023, which will dominate. | ||
| British politics in 2024. | ||
| And I picked out this story that Richard Tice, the leader of UKIP, of the Reform Party, excuse me, had said that the Reform UK will stand in all seats in the country. | ||
| And I said this story here has the potential to put an end to the oldest political party in the world, the British Conservative Party, and could reduce them to a Canadian-style wipeout. | ||
| And I absolutely think that everything we've seen since New Year's today is moving in that direction. | ||
| Like Raheem, I have to say, look, In a sense, I'm actually happy that Nigel isn't standing for this reason. | ||
| for this reason, because it changes... I did not want to see the | ||
| the metrics for success of Reform UK being tied to whether Nigel wins | ||
| his seat or not. | ||
| The impact that reform is able to impact on, the change it's able to impact on British politics right now vastly, vastly exceeds the simple case of one person, even if it's Nigel Farage winning the seat. | ||
| Reform is in a potential really to reduce the Tories to a figure of around 50 seats. | ||
| Possibly even more, depending what happens between now and the election. | ||
| And with Nigel not standing, that metric for success isn't going to be there. | ||
| Guys, hang on for a second. | ||
| I've got to pick your brain on Nikki Haley, Nikki Dick Cheney in heels trying to be the Prime Minister of the United States. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| And do you think Nikki Haley is therefore aiming herself to be president ultimately? | ||
| I think Nikki Haley is incredibly politically ambitious. | ||
| I would say ambitious as Lucifer, but that's probably a... I'm probably taking Milton out of context on that. | ||
| But she's very ambitious and very talented. | ||
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Do you think she could challenge Trump in the primaries? | |
| I take Nikki Haley at her word that it's not 2020. | ||
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I think she's going to go out and make some money. | |
| I just think the timing, everything that she said yesterday and everything about her stepping down could have been done on the evening of November 6th. | ||
| She's going to stay to the end of the year. | ||
| There's plenty of time to do a transition, plenty of time to pick someone to take her place. | ||
| The timing could not have been worse because it stepped on the Kavanaugh first day at the Supreme Court. | ||
| It stepped on the 50-year anniversary of the law. | ||
| We had the lowest unemployment in 50 years. | ||
| The timing was exquisite from a bad point of view. | ||
| So I think I'm very suspect of the timing. | ||
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Trump has not been perfect on these policies. | |
| I've made that clear many, many times. | ||
| But Biden has been a catastrophe. | ||
| So I will be voting for Trump. | ||
| Having said that, I stand by what I said in my suspension speech. | ||
| Trump would be smart To reach out to the millions of people who voted for me and continue to support me and not assume that they're just going to be with him. | ||
| And I genuinely hope he does that. | ||
| You know, that is one of the most remarkably unmoored from facts. | ||
| Description on why you're voting for Donald Trump, I've never heard my... I mean, it is mind-boggling that somebody who actually claims to know anything about policy would say what she just said. | ||
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Like I said, I'm not shocked that she's cynical. | |
| She's been cynical her entire political career. | ||
| It doesn't shock me she went back to Trump. | ||
| But you're gonna have to do a lot better than that, Nikki. | ||
| Rahim Ghassan, you've been at the forefront of saying something's going on here. | ||
| Was this a head fake yesterday? | ||
| Was this to make sure her donors know that she's now super primed to try to cause consternation at the convention and force her way in as the VP, sir? | ||
| By the way, I think we all need to marvel, I remember that, marvel at the clip from Bloomberg there, with you saying, I believe your trousers are ironed, your hair is brushed, you're a lot cleaner, but you're a lot meaner back then as well, I remember that much too. | ||
| It's pretty amazing. | ||
| By the way, that was only in 2018. | ||
| It was in October. | ||
| Rahim was with me. | ||
| We were doing a tour of Europe, the European parliamentary elections. | ||
| We stopped at Bloomberg. | ||
| But I thought it was pretty prescient. | ||
| She's ambitious. | ||
| She's pure and she's limited on capacity and capabilities, but she's long on ambition. | ||
| She's very conniving. | ||
| She's very sneaky. | ||
| She did that a couple of weeks before the midterm of which Nancy Pelosi took back the House and was able to then impeach Donald Trump, sir. | ||
| Yeah, and you know, you often say this, but take your aging into account. | ||
| I believe it's correct to say there are years in which decades happen if that clip is anything to go by. | ||
| And, um, I... | ||
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I couldn't help myself. God. | |
| The, um, the Nikki stuff is really fascinating because I really genuinely don't believe she even is voting or will | ||
| vote for Donald Trump. | ||
| I think she will probably go the way of John Bolton, who I think said recently that he intends to write in Dick Cheney or some other bizarre neocon figure from 20 years ago. | ||
| And so this is two things. | ||
| Yes, you're right. | ||
| You're absolutely right to say there is a level of positioning here, there is an element | ||
| of positioning here, a rather big one, but a rather transparent one. | ||
| But I think the other part of this is this is more for me about pulling the wool over | ||
| the eyes of Republicans, pulling the wool over the eyes of MAGA voters, so that if she | ||
| doesn't get her prime ministership, her premiership under this next Trump administration, that | ||
| can come back and she say look you know I told you I was on your side | ||
| I took my defeat in my stride and I told people to vote for Trump and I said I was going to too. | ||
| However, this is probably going to be like one of those situations I think we learn down In Texas, just this week, one of the leaders of the GOP in Texas said he was voting for Donald Trump in the primary. | ||
| Turns out, I think his ballot was leaked and he voted for Ron DeSantis. | ||
| So, you know, they're all like it. | ||
| They're all snakes. | ||
| Are you still hearing, you're pretty well sourced, are you still hearing that they're working on something at the convention to be able to use that as a forcing function? | ||
| To try to force her on the ticket as Trump's running mate? | ||
| Yes, look, I think... | ||
| I mean, somebody said the other day, it may have even been Donald Trump himself the other day, when he was asked, you know, how are they going to steal it this time around? | ||
| He said, well, you know, just about 18 different ways. | ||
| I think it's more like 800 different ways. | ||
| And the convention is one of them. | ||
| There is a recent report up at the National Pulse at the moment, actually, which details how Haley's backers have recently been having conference calls with Biden campaign staff. | ||
| So, you have to take all of this into consideration and contextualize it to say, this woman does not have any interest in supporting Margaret or Donald Trump. | ||
| This is just another ruse. | ||
| And, yes, in fact, I have so much sourcing on this right now, Steve, that I'm going to start sending it directly your way, because you have a greater ability to hone this information down than I do. | ||
| But, yes, this is still their plan, and I still fully expect at the convention convention where we will be, the National Pulse reporting | ||
| live from, there will be, I guess what we call, to use another phrase that I can use, | ||
| silly buggers on the convention floor. | ||
| Rahim, where do people go to get to the National Pulse, to get your social media, all of it? | ||
| Yeah, the nationalpulse.com forward slash war room. | ||
| We need you, ladies and gentlemen, to sign up and support us at thenationalpulse.com forward slash war room. | ||
| And if you want my spicy tweets that I would be no doubt arrested for in my home country, it's just at Raheem Kassam across social media. | ||
| Getter, Truth, X, Instagram, you name it, I'm there. | ||
| Raheem, amazing. | ||
| I know you've got to bounce. | ||
| You want to stay for the show, but you've been called to duty in action right now. | ||
| Thank you, sir, for taking time away today to join us. | ||
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Thanks, guys. | |
| Ben Harnwell, your thoughts on one of your favorite topics, Nikki Haley? | ||
| Well, coming back to Birdbrain, smoke her out. | ||
| She hasn't endorsed Donald Trump. | ||
| I think she just said she's going to vote for him. | ||
| Call on her to formally endorse him. | ||
| This is a person who is... Look, I disagree with you. | ||
| You're talking about that Bloomberg thing, your intro. | ||
| I disagreed with what you said. | ||
| I think you said that she's very talented at some point. | ||
| I know you're trying to be generous. | ||
| She's not talented remotely. | ||
| She's shallow and massively out... For someone who's a former US ambassador to the United Nations, where foreign policy is supposed to be her thing, massively out of her depth whenever she talks about it. | ||
| And I don't want to go on the superficial about how she talks. | ||
| It seems you mentioned Nancy Pelosi a few moments or so ago. | ||
| Did they share full seats or something? | ||
| They've got that same kind of saliva thing when they're talking. | ||
| No. | ||
| Can't stand the woman. | ||
| I think she's trying to stay relevant with this, this sort of semi-pseudo endorsement. | ||
| Call her bluff. | ||
| Say it. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| But wait, are you going to endorse him formally? | ||
| Yes or no? | ||
| And then see what she does. | ||
| I want to pivot to, you've got an analysis about Giorgia Maloney and what's actually happening in Italy. | ||
| And as we lead up to these European parliamentary elections, and then right on top of it, I mean, the next, what is it, six weeks in Europe on politics, particularly on the right, are going to be, I think, the most intense probably in the post-war era, just what's happening. | ||
| Walk me through, you had this amazing analysis of what's really happened to workers This is a story that Reuters carried a few days ago. | ||
| We haven't had a chance to bring it on the show up until now because of all the other really important stuff. | ||
| some closing thoughts of yours on Ukraine? | ||
| One in three. | ||
| The destination, by the way, of those who want to leave 32 percent, the highest by far, almost three times higher than those who want to go to the United States. | ||
| So, you know, whatever's going on in the U.S. | ||
| domestically, You can at least be confident that that beacon of liberty and prosperity and possibility is still absorbed outside the country, as much as the Democrats and Republicans are conspiring together to destroy it. | ||
| But here's a knockdown statistic, Steve, right? | ||
| Over 30 years, this is official OECD statistics, over 30 years, wages have grown by in total over 30 years. | ||
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1% in Italy. | |
| 1% wage movement over 30 years. | ||
| And that compares to 32.5% average over the OECD countries. | ||
| That just absolutely shows you how the political class in Italy, for three decades, has pushed this country really into the ground. | ||
| And that is the context. | ||
| Raise my hat to you because you were saying this years and years and years ago that Italy is going to be the laboratory for something new, the merging of the populist and nationalist movements, which actually did occur and it formed a government on the basis of that. | ||
| This is the context and the background to that. | ||
| And this is why Italians are so disillusioned with the political program at the moment. | ||
| And I think why? | ||
| A clear third of the country is supporting a political party that the press have said universally is far-right and extremist, because that is where the country is willing to go in order to effect change. | ||
| Now, I don't think the Maloney government is remotely far-right. | ||
| Not remotely. | ||
| It's not fascist, as the Mainstream media is constantly depicting it, but it illustrates the desperation of what can happen when a country is neglected and abused for so long. | ||
| And it's about jobs, basically. | ||
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| I've spent a lot of time in Italy with you and getting to know the populist movement there, the nationalist movement, the sovereigntist movement, everybody from the Northern Alliance to the Brothers of Italy. | ||
| How? | ||
| I've never, and we, you know, you and I have gone to the rallies and seen Salvini and see, you know, particularly when they had that great movement and kind of merged the two populists of the right and left to try to have a coalition government. | ||
| But I never saw raw anger like I've seen some other places. | ||
| How could you possibly only have 1% pay increase over 30 years and not have people on the verge of revolt? | ||
| It's fairly docile in Italy. | ||
| How can that be when you actually, and you can feel it when you're there, you understand with all this beauty and all this, really the highlight of the Judeo-Christian West all around you from architecture to art, I mean, breathtaking. | ||
| There's something, and the people are great people, just good people, great people, there's something missing of the economic vibrancy. | ||
| You have cultural and social vibrancy, but you can tell that you don't feel the unlocking of the animal spirits. | ||
| in what's necessary for capitalism. | ||
| But why are they not taking to the streets and burn the place down when this is basically, these are Russian serfs. | ||
| We've identified it. | ||
| It's the Italian middle class and working class. | ||
| Why is there not more anger? | ||
| Um, well, look, culturally, you flag up the cultural point. | ||
| I cannot not ignore the fact that, say, over 100, 150 years, all of the Italians with that real entrepreneurial sense and that sense that they want to do something with their lives have left this country and Come to America. | ||
| So what you have of the massive migration... Or to London. | ||
| Hang on, hang on. | ||
| Or to London. | ||
| One of the big places they've gone to in the last 20 years, right, is London. | ||
| So it's London or the United States. | ||
| But you're saying that the real cutting-edge entrepreneur class has just decided by the time they're 18, 19, 20, 21, I've got to get out of here or I'm just going to end up like my buddies, right? | ||
| Well, basically, when I said, you know, when I said coming to America, I really meant the Ellis Island thing over 150 years ago. | ||
| Huge, like whole generations of Italian workers left. | ||
| So what you have left are people who basically, culturally, you know, they've imbibed this. | ||
| These are the people that will stay, basically, will be satisfied. | ||
| The Italians aren't French. | ||
| If you'd have had the French in this country rather than Italians, they would have had | ||
| so many 1789s by now, so many French revolutions. | ||
| The Italians aren't, they're not a revolting people. | ||
| They don't revolt. | ||
| So, you know, as they say themselves here, you know, as long as the Italian guy has a | ||
| plate of pasta for his lunch, has a football match to watch the weekend on the TV, you | ||
| know, he's got enough petrol to produce, he's never going to go out and overturn things | ||
| like the French would do. | ||
| That is commonly said here, and there's a lot of truth to that. | ||
| The consequences of that is that it means the government can get everybody with knife Almost murder, basically. | ||
| And that's what they've been doing. | ||
| I mean, just think about this, right? | ||
| Most countries around the world will post... Now, I know that... Look, I don't rate GDP as a concept. | ||
| I certainly don't rate GDP growth as a meaningful statistic whatsoever. | ||
| But we are used to seeing 2%, 3%, 4% growth reported, apart from the hiccup over COVID. | ||
| Those are sort of reasonable statistics. | ||
| Italy has had 1% in total divided over, split over 30 years. | ||
| This shows you how sclerotic the Italian economy is. | ||
| And it's by design, right? | ||
| I have to say, you can't just blame, as I am doing, the Italian political class. | ||
| It's what people want. | ||
| People want a job for life, right? | ||
| If you have an economic system, And there's not the time to break down this, but you do need some element, some essential discipline of free market capitalism in the system. | ||
| Otherwise, you'll be destroying as much wealth as you are creating it. | ||
| It's like that medical condition in the heart where you have a weak heart valve and it's pushing back as much unoxygenated blood as it is coming through. | ||
| It's the same thing with the economy. | ||
| It's impossible to sack anyone in this country. | ||
| You can really only sack someone in this country. | ||
| Fire them, excuse me. | ||
| If they're caught with their hands in the till. | ||
| Basically, if you don't, you don't do anything, right? | ||
| If you don't, you just show up. | ||
| And sometimes you don't even need to do that, right? | ||
| And they can't fire you. | ||
| So if you can't fire, and this is in the public service and in the private sector, if you can't fire somebody, right, and people aren't dumb, then they're going to come to work, but they're not going to do anything. | ||
| And that's exactly what you have. | ||
| And that's why you have 1% growth. | ||
| So in a sense, let's blame the massive corruption in the political system, because it is there. | ||
| But also a certain word needs to be directed towards the Italian people themselves for having sort of voted this system in and perpetuated it. | ||
| And not prepared to vote it out. | ||
| We've got so much more to talk to. | ||
| We'll talk through. | ||
| We'll do it hopefully tomorrow. | ||
| Where do people go to get your social media? | ||
| Just extraordinary job. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Thanks so much. | ||
| Getter at Harnwell. | ||
| Tapping my surname there. | ||
| You can see how it's spelled at the bottom. | ||
| Harnwell. | ||
| And I do have some Fantastic posts at the top of my feed waiting for you to look at right now. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| One last thing. | ||
| Do you agree with Bridgerton? | ||
| Do you think by summer, do you think by August, September, it'll be much more in front that we're actually at war, that the great powers of the United States, Britain, and France are at war with Russia right now and have been at war with Russia? | ||
| I mean the kinetic part. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it is probably true. | ||
| There hasn't been a formal declaration of war, but that I think, you know, and I've heard things like that as well as you and Rahim have done. | ||
| That does seem to strike sense. | ||
| And it does illustrate, as of course, Andrew Bridgen said in his remarks, it does illustrate something about Putin's sense of restraint thus far, that he hasn't made any corresponding manoeuvres against these countries. | ||
| His red line being, of course, incidentally touched on earlier, whether Ukraine sends British Unbelievable. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| made long-range missiles deep into Russian territory. | ||
| Now, America still said no, that Ukraine can't do that. | ||
| Britain, however, has given the green light. | ||
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So stuff to watch there, right? | |
| Okay. | ||
| We'll get you on Getter and we'll see you tomorrow. | ||
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| Ben Harnwell, thank you. | ||
| Explosive out of the United Kingdom. | ||
| Of course, they're going to have European parliamentary elections first week, two weeks, ten days of June, then right into the general election in the UK. | ||
| It will have a big impact here in the United States. | ||
| We'll cover it wall to wall. | ||
| Lou Dobbs, the great Lou Dobbs is next. | ||
| Want to make sure everybody, hey, you got one of the smartest guys in Parliament saying there's no doubt that the UK, France, and the United States have already been in a kinetic, the beginning of a kinetic phase of the war in Ukraine against the Russians. | ||
| You want turbulence, baby? | ||
| Hey, you're going to get it. | ||
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| How do I hedge my financial situation against instability, particularly in currencies like the drop in the purchasing power? | ||
| Good old U.S. | ||
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| Birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| Go talk to Philip Patrick and team. | ||
| Don't take it from us. | ||
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| Birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| And you can get to Philip Patrick. | ||
| Philip Patrick will be joining us on Saturday's show. | ||
| Also, Jace Medical, remember we're talking about this invasion of Taiwan. | ||
| They're going through the preliminary steps right now. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party running massive, the PLA, People's Liberation Army and Navy running massive exercises to envelop Taiwan. | ||
| Don't get caught short, don't get caught short by your, don't get caught short on your medicines. | ||
| JaceMedical.com slash Bannon talked to Dr. Sean Rowland and the team Do it today. | ||
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