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May 20, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3622: Being Vigilant Across All Counties In 2024
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vaughn hillyard ▲ ● ▼
But this is where the big development just in the last moments inside the courtroom are.
Because after all the witnesses have been called, that's when you have summations, or you could call it closing arguments.
And that could have started as early as tomorrow.
But Judge Marshawn, inside of this courtroom, announcing that summations, closing arguments, in Donald Trump's first criminal trial will not begin until after Memorial Day.
Next Tuesday, saying that he was concerned that closing arguments and then the deliberation process for the jury to determine whether Donald Trump is guilty or not, that there could be with that four-day weekend in hand.
There is no court Friday, there's no court Saturday, no court Sunday, Memorial Day is Monday, and so there is concern about having such a long break between closing arguments and jury instructions and the jury charge to the point of the actual deliberation of the jury.
Donald Trump's criminal trial will not be ending this week.
It will extend into next week.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
I'm here instead of campaigning.
As you know, I was supposed to be in a very different state this morning.
And the judge actually decided to call this early.
And yet, it looks like we're going to have a very big gap between days, and it's going
to be determined right now in court.
But we're here about an hour early today.
I was supposed to be making a speech for political purposes.
I'm not allowed to have anything to do with politics because I'm sitting in a very freezing cold courtroom for the last four weeks.
It's very unfair.
They have no case.
They have no crime.
It's been determined by everybody, every legal scholar, New York Post editorial board today.
Trump, prosecution, wind down.
It's always been a witch hunt.
With a prosecution winding down in Donald Trump's Manhattan case, we have to ask, in the immortal words of Peggy Lee, is that all there is?
That's the New York Post editorial board.
It's become utterly apparent, if that wasn't seen already, that the key elements to any prosecution is missing.
The key element is missing.
And it says, what's missing?
A crime.
There's no crime.
You know, they go through all this stuff, and there was nothing done wrong.
NDAs are perfect.
And by the way, legal expenses.
You know, we paid a legal expense.
You know what it's marked down in the books as?
A legal expense.
Again, it's not marked down as construction.
It's not marked down as sheetrock and cinderblock.
It's marked down as legal expense.
You have a lawyer.
You pay him a legal expense, and it's covered in the book.
As legal expense, I had nothing to do with it.
The bookkeeper put it down as a legal expense.
This is why I'm here, because we called it a legal expense, a payment to a lawyer.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼
Jonathan Turley, even liberal experts have continued to express doubt over where's the crime.
unidentified
Andy McCarthy, let's stick with the relevant, undisputed facts of the case.
Mershaid should dismiss this case.
He should dismiss this case immediately.
Greg's evidence is woefully inadequate.
This case should be dismissed.
It should have never been brought.
And the judge is highly conflicted.
He's a corrupt judge.
He's highly conflicted.
He's totally corrupt.
And he's interfering with an election.
Greg Jarrett.
There is no credible evidence of a crime.
Greg's case against the accused is beyond anemic.
It is an audacious and, let's see, it is an audacious corruption of the legal process and a very dangerous one.
No fair or competent judge dedicated to upholding justice would have ever allowed such a case.
It's a trade wreck.
And he goes on and on and on.
No judge, except this one, would allow this case to continue.
He's corrupt.
Alan Dershowitz, who I think is standing right behind me.
We have many people from Congress, Senators, Congressmen.
We've had him here all week.
And I say, don't come.
And by the way, outside looks like it's supposed to be 4,000.
There are more police than I've ever seen anywhere.
Because they don't want to have anybody come down.
There's not a civilian within three blocks of the courthouse.
But a Columbia University can set up a tent and burn down the doors right opposite the front entrance.
It's a disgrace.
Alan Dershowitz's drug trial is a stupendous legal catastrophe.
All Americans, regardless of Political affiliation should be appalled at this selective prosecution today.
This is it.
It's a great term.
I should use it now.
I will.
Selective prosecution.
This all comes from the White House.
It all comes from the D.O.G.
in the White House.
Take a look who's in the room.
This all comes from the DOJ and the White House.
It's an attack on Biden who's mentally unfit.
He's mentally unfit to be the president of this country.
It's an attack on his political opponent.
That's all it is.
All of the things you see that you saw over the last four weeks, most of it should have never even been brought up.
And then on top of that, there's no crime.
And we go on day after day, and I tell Iowa, I'm sorry, I won't be able to make it.
I tell New Hampshire, sorry, I won't be able to make it.
I'm sitting in a nice box all day.
Today, this is Alan Bernstein, today the target is Trump.
Tomorrow it may be a Democrat.
After that, you and me.
Who knows?
The criminal justice system is on trial in New York.
It's making New York State, I love this state.
I love the people of this state.
I'm running hard in New York.
I think we're going to win New York.
But it's making New York our judicial system.
And then I add Judge Kaplan, who's horrible.
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
And Gorin, he didn't know, he doesn't know the first thing about finances.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
unidentified
The people have had a belly full of it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It's Monday, 20 May in the year of the Lord 2024.
Don Jr.
joins us.
Don Jr., I would hope that your father would give the closing argument, because right there, in about four minutes this morning, right off the top of his head, gives the best overall view of this trial, of the other lawfare, and where he stands in this race to reverse the big steal, win his third election and second term.
Don Jr., your thoughts.
unidentified
Listen, I think the whole thing's crazy.
Now they're going to delay the thing for a week.
I was about to literally go to the airport to fly up to New York to be in court tomorrow, thinking that tomorrow was going to be closing arguments.
Now they want to delay it a week.
And that's the purpose.
My father's 100% right.
They want to do whatever they possibly can to keep him off the campaign trail.
They understand that Donald Trump on the campaign trail is a positive thing for conservatism, for Donald Trump, and a really bad thing for Joe Biden.
They know they have to hide Joe Biden.
And it's the opposite for Trump.
So as long as they can possibly delay this, I'm surprised the prosecution is not calling
random witnesses that have nothing to do with it.
Just by the way, like they did with Stormy Daniels, two days of testimony for a documents
case that was clearly just designed to hold Trump up and to try to embarrass him.
The whole thing is a sham.
The whole thing is ridiculous.
It's falling apart before their very eyes.
Their great star witness is a multiple-time convicted perjurer, someone who's lied before everybody, it seems, that he's ever actually been in front of.
But, you know, in a kangaroo court, that doesn't matter, Steve.
You understand that better than most.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Although, what they're putting forward, I mean, the Cohen thing's been a total incomplete, look, the whole thing's a joke.
But the Cohen thing specifically, their star witness, has been an absolutely complete debacle, has it not?
I mean, this guy's gotten chopped up by Todd Blanch.
I think this morning it's still going to be more cross-examination before the prosecution tries to come back and clean him up, right?
unidentified
Well, listen, they fell apart.
Yeah, he totally fell apart last week.
Got caught in multiple lies.
It's sort of like what they tried to do to me back in the day, you know.
There's this call from an unknown number, and I, you know, I testified before Congress under, you know, penalty of perjury and, you know, amongst other things when they wanted to put me in there for the death penalty.
You know, what is this number that called you four years ago at 3078?
I don't know.
It's an unknown number.
I have no idea.
That must have been the conversation you had with your father.
There were two of them.
You know, they illegally got the phone records from the phone company.
Turns out it happened to just one of my buddies that had a blocked number.
But it didn't stop them from running with that narrative, Steve, of this happened, that was the call.
This was just like that.
This was a call to Keith Schiller because some 14-year-old was pranking Michael Cohen.
But he tried to pretend that it was him explaining to my father the payments, you know, magically in a minute and seven seconds or whatever it was.
Something ridiculous.
They reconciled the text messages at the same time with the phone calls and the entire case hinged on all of that having actually supposedly had happened.
You know, again, that's coming from Cohen, but it doesn't matter because your design, it's designed to not matter.
The truth is irrelevant to these people and clearly to Michael Cohen.
So, you know, our guys, the defense did an incredible job breaking that out, got him to stammer on the stand, got him to say, well, maybe it's a little different than that.
All of a sudden, it's always a little different when he gets caught.
It's amazing how that happens.
But that's where we're at.
So I'm sure the prosecution is going to try to clean up this guy who's a criminal, who spent time in jail, who lost his law license.
Who did all of these things and, you know, they're going to try to make him seem like he is a deity because, you know, again, they're hoping that in a New York court with a stacked jury, a biased judge and a long holiday weekend where I'm sure the media will be hounding them and putting pressure on them to make sure that Trump doesn't get off as he should.
You know, that's what's going on right now and that's what it's designed to do.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You brought up the key point.
This should be acquittal, obviously, what's been presented.
In fact, I don't know why even President Trump's going to put on a defense, quite honestly.
But it definitely should be a hung jury.
But talk about the pressure that these jurors are going to come under.
It's the end of their life in New York City.
Is it not, sir, if they are to either quit or have a hung jury for President Trump?
unidentified
Yeah, I believe that.
That's why, Steve, they've chosen all of these venues this way, right?
Even the Florida case, the grand jury was done in Washington, D.C.
I've never even heard of that.
Like, why would you have a grand jury in Washington, D.C.
for Florida?
Unless, of course, it's just designed to delay, to get a guaranteed outcome.
In New York, I understand that pressure.
I lived there my whole life.
You know, it was pretty good existence until you put that little R next to your name as a Republican and all of a sudden things change.
So, even if there is someone, and again, in a 95 to 5, you know, radical liberal to conservative district, you know, the defense only gets so many jurors they can strike off of this thing.
But even if you got one on there, or even if you had a liberal that actually just realizes exactly what this is, that it's a sham, and understands the implications of that for the future, and what it would do to our country and our judicial system, which is collapsing before our very eyes for anyone, you know, watching.
That person, if they're the person that let Trump go, they couldn't show up to their kid's school in New York City.
Now, they should be able to, that's the way the law, but it doesn't matter.
There is undue social pressure.
That's what it's designed to do.
Hey, you want to go to a restaurant?
We're going to make your life painful.
They've said all these things.
Listen to some of the congressmen who make their lives painful, make them understand it.
Sometimes they say, you know, hey, listen, I don't like Trump, I don't like this, this is wrong, but like, am I going to destroy my life?
Uh, to protect him and the entire foundation of our judicial system?
They probably won't.
And everyone knows it.
That's the problem.
Just because it's 100% obviously should be in the middle, like the most summed up case in the history of law, doesn't mean anything to these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Don Jr., I got a minute this side.
I want to hold you for a couple minutes on the other.
The Hill lead story today is how the Democrats in these battleground states are all running away.
People have to be reelected, like U.S.
Senators are running away from Joe Biden.
Give me your assessment, and we're going to hold you through the break.
Your assessment of the battleground states rapidly shifting to big Trump leads.
unidentified
How do you not, Steve?
I mean, listen, objectively, as an American, as a businessman, as a father of five young children, I wish Joe Biden's presidency was a success.
I promise you, it would be much easier for me to not have to be in this game, to not have to engage.
There's much more consequence to being a vocal conservative and being out there fighting.
But there is not a single Talking point.
There's not a single thing in the entire metric of America right now that is thriving, that is succeeding, whether it's wars, whether it's economies, whether it's just the unrest civilly in America right now, all created by this insanity, frankly, encouraged by the left.
We saw what happened You know, during the 2020 Summer of Love riots.
And, you know, that's what they're doing right now on college campuses.
There's not a single thing that Joe Biden could stand on right now that is a success.
There is not an objective win in the entire arsenal.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Joe, Don Jr., hang on one second.
Short break.
Don Jr.
on the other side.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hey, Don Jr., I'm a cop.
We're going to talk about that split in the battleground states is over policies you just laid out when we get to Navarro, but I got to go back one more time because this is going to be the linchpin of everything.
There hasn't been a case.
There's not a crime.
It's been very unprofessional, even how they've tried to gun deck it.
But it's gonna come down to the pressure on the citizens of New York that are in the jury, right?
Even if people are not, and I'm sure there's a ton of people there that just hate Trump and are just there because they wanna say, I got Trump.
But for those even-handed people, even liberals, that would sit there and go, this is a fiasco, the pressure on them is gonna be like something nobody's ever seen.
Tell me what the pressure in New York City's really like about putting Trump away.
unidentified
Yeah, listen, I legitimately think people would have a hard time You know, bringing their children to school.
I know, you know, before we moved to the free state of Florida when we were still in the People's Republic of New York, you know, my children in elementary school would get all sorts of undue craziness from kids.
But it wasn't because the kids had no idea.
They're five years old.
But the parents would be, you know, side-eyeing them and giving them mean looks because of who they are.
You know, that kind of pressure on an adult is going to be, you know, and it's designed to be.
Just, you know, spirit-breaking.
You could understand that this was all a sham.
You could all—and still understand that, you know, there's a serious consequence to your life in doing this.
They all know that.
They understand that.
You saw that throughout all of these trials against anything that could appear to be conservative or right-wing.
Look, you know, the jury—the jury getting hounded by the press in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial and George Floyd and all the—you know, you don't think they're doing the same thing to these people?
You don't think they understand?
Right now that, hey, if I do the right thing, there's a major social consequence in my life.
It could be, you know, entirely game-changing.
You know, that is by design.
That is on purpose.
This is a show trial, but it's a show trial where the people who are making that decision understand that there are real consequences to making the right call here.
And, you know, again, it's something you still have to deal with.
That's the reality.
When I'm in New York, the amount of people that show support is actually Huge.
But they do it like this, like it's like a thumbs up, like hidden under their jacket, like so that no one else could possibly see.
You know, that's what it is.
So they understand.
They're supportive.
They understand the policies always work.
They understand four years under Joe Biden has been an abject disaster across our country.
It's what you're talking about with all the people running away from his policies in the swing states, because there's nothing to, there's nothing to embrace.
Not a single thing in three and a half years.
You know, we were told the adults were back in charge, but that was obviously nonsense.
It doesn't matter.
In New York, there's still a serious consequence.
And I hope that these people have the guts to do it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We're going to see, but this is what this whole trial is going to come down to.
President Biden, the illegitimate usurper in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, race baited this weekend.
Don Jr., the spread you see from the Hill newspaper and all the battleground states is because of President Trump as a leader, President Trump's policies, the golden years of 17, 18, and 19 before he got hit with a bioweapon.
A lot of this is encapsulated.
I know President Trump wanted to do it.
Your publishing company wanted to do it.
It's actually put out the program of what is the real MAGA deal.
Peter Navarro, fortunately enough, had a year to put this together before he was sent to rot in a federal prison.
Your thoughts?
unidentified
Yeah, listen, Peter was a great American patriot, still is.
I visited him, as you know, because I did your show right afterwards.
I visited him in federal prison last weekend, where he's sitting there while on appeal, by the way.
That's how the system works, right?
He's still on appeal on things that are literally waiting for the Supreme Court to decide.
But that doesn't stop the other side from locking them up.
So he wrote a book called The New MAGA Deal.
You can get it at 45books.com.
You can see all the stuff that we're publishing.
For people who are otherwise being censored by the publishing houses, we're just trying
to fight back, Steve, in every possible venue.
So you can get it at newmagadeal.com or 45books.com.
These are some of the other authors that we're publishing.
Authors that are important.
People who are being smothered.
People who are being censored and trying to be suppressed.
It's everything we stand for.
So Peter put together basically an outline of what the next term has to be.
The next term under Trump to regain the strength to put China back in its place.
To stop putting America last.
And so he's just been a great patriot.
He actually was doing it with someone else.
And once his court prevails, they obviously bought into it again, usually by design.
So Sergio Gore and I, we picked up his transcript.
We said, hey, we're going to put this out for you.
We're going to help make sure that people understand what it is.
The other side always complains, oh, you don't like what you got on this playing field?
Go build your own.
So guys like me, we go do that.
So we built Winning Team Publishing.
And again, all those books are at 45books.com.
You know, Peter is a great guy and, you know, really put together the plan for them next term, what we have to do, where are the places we got to attack, who are the rock stars of the movement and who are the snakes.
And, you know, he's going to be instrumental in that.
He's the guy that was more concerned.
I mean, literally, he was on my Triggered podcast.
On Rumble, the day before he went to prison for four months, and he's out there not talking about that, or even the ridiculous malicious prosecution that he's had to go through, because we all understand that.
You're dealing with some of that yourself.
He wanted to make sure we win.
He's still thinking about that because he's looking to save our country.
It's just, it's so important and it's just amazing to see that level of commitment, that level of patriotism under, you know, pretty extreme, you know, and arduous circumstances.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
No, Newmageddiel.
We need you to go and offense the audience.
This is the weapon you need.
You can get it on People's Grills.
All the policies laid out, and it's got many of the contributors, the Dave Brats, the Dave Walshes, et cetera, that helped Peter put this together.
It's extraordinary.
Newmageddiel.com.
By the way, remember, he's rotting in a federal prison on a misdemeanor.
Don't ever let people forget that.
It's a misdemeanor.
unidentified
It's a frickin' misdemeanor, and he's rotting in a federal jail.
He's literally the only person in that prison Every charge of the 34 was never, ever before in history treated as anything other than a misdemeanor.
That's what they're trying to do to my father in New York.
Every charge of the 34 was never, ever before in history treated as anything other than
a misdemeanor.
They were misdemeanors at best.
And this is not even that, right?
But they were all bumped up to felonies.
So Peter is there as one of hundreds of people in a federal prison, the only person there
on a misdemeanor.
And he's also the only person not eligible to be released early.
Early for good behavior.
You'll wonder if that's the setup as well, Steve.
I mean, it's so disgusting what's happening, and I just hope it emboldens everyone else to actually fight back the way guys like you, me, and my father, Peter himself, are doing, because literally everything is on the table this election.
They will take away every single right we have, and they will do it laughing in our faces.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Big time.
Newmagadeal.com.
Go check it out right now.
Winning team publishing.
The book's incredible.
It gives you ammunition for the fight ahead.
Don Jr., last thing.
It was so great.
You went to see Peter.
You hobbled down there.
You'd just come off of surgery for your knee.
You decided not to take any pain relief.
You said, I'll just gut this out.
You came here and stood for over an hour.
The audience wants to know, since you're going to go tomorrow, the next couple of days and stand with your dad, how's the knee?
unidentified
Uh, so far so good.
You know, just meniscus a lot, yeah.
I guess I've been ridden hard and put away wet all those years of, you know, misfit youth doing, uh, adventurous stuff and it, you know, yet it wasn't even like I did in there.
I was walking and, uh, apparently I'd done my meniscus a long time ago and it was just hanging off by a thread and finally popped, so.
It's just too important of a year to sit back and do all of that.
And I figured, if I took the pain meds and I slurred one word, if I misspelled one word in a tweet, they'd say, he's just like Hunter Biden and he's basically on crack, Steve.
You understand, we are not given what we call equal treatment, whether it be in the media or under the law.
So I was like, you know what?
We're just going to deal with it.
We're going to suck it up like a man and keep fighting.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Road hard and laid up wet once too often, Don Jr.
Thank you for coming on today.
We're going to push this book hard.
Make sure everybody backs Peter Navarro.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Right there.
Won't take any pain medication because he's got to be sharp all the time because he's absolutely correct.
They would try to make the Hunter Biden, the crackhead, they would try to make the Hunter Biden analogy.
Okay, big, do we have a cold open for Royce?
Is that right?
Let's play Royce White.
We got a cold open for the Royce White, the endorsed Senate candidate of the Republican GOP coming out of Minnesota.
Let's play it.
unidentified
I will stand up there in the filibuster in the United States Senate as long as human
power.
royce white ▲ ● ▼
I will stand up there in the filibuster in the United States Senate as long as human
unidentified
power.
I will stand up there in the filibuster in the United States Senate as long as human
royce white ▲ ● ▼
power.
unidentified
I will stand up there in the filibuster in the United States Senate as long as human
royce white ▲ ● ▼
power.
I will stand up there in the filibuster in the United States Senate as long as human
unidentified
power.
I will stand up there in the filibuster in the United States Senate as long as human power.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I will stand up there in the filibuster in the United States Senate as long as human
How did you win the nomination, the official endorsement of the GOP convention?
How did you do it?
royce white ▲ ● ▼
Well, it wasn't easy.
We had some help, a great intro video from you there to kick the day off.
And a lot of War Room and Donald Trump and MAGA supporters in that room, as we saw from the Lincoln and Reagan dinner the night before, I was there as well.
You know, I just went around as much as I could over the course of the convention and talked to people.
Some people had reservations.
Some people had heard rumors.
Some people think I'm crazy because the podcast is Please Call Me Crazy.
But by the time the vote came and I was able to speak for 10 minutes, I thought it was very clear where I stood on all of these issues and what my agenda is getting there to D.C.
and representing the American people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The question everybody wants to know is how are you going to beat Amy Klobuchar?
She had a run for president.
She's beloved by the progressive left.
How are you going to do it?
royce white ▲ ● ▼
Well, we definitely got to go into Hennepin, Ramsey, and Dakota County, which make up the vast majority of the inner city areas and communities.
And we got to ask them a simple question.
I said at the convention, you know, there are all these culture wedge issues, and I'm all for it.
Let's talk about them.
Let's sort them out.
Let's hold our ground, for sure.
But there are issues that we could point to that are much simpler for people to understand.
And I think one of them, from growing up in the black community, is there is a consensus that the government is usually big, too big, and often corrupt.
Well, if the government is too big or corrupt, you don't want to vote to make it bigger.
A vote for Democrats is a vote to infinitely expand the federal government.
It's going to bastardize your citizenship, and it eventually is going to erode your freedoms and basic rights.
So there are things that we can do that have already begun because of Donald Trump's presidency and the work that you guys do and everybody else in the movement that black men are starting to move.
Well, if black men move, the avalanche may go all at once.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Royce, just hang on for one second.
I just want to hold you through the break.
We've also got Amy Kramer's going to join us.
We've got Caroline Wren, Tej Gill.
Alex DeGrasse is going to join us to talk about redistricting and where we stand on this.
The fight is on.
We're also going to break and go to the courthouse, I think in the 11 o'clock hour.
We're packed here on a Monday morning in May.
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unidentified
Your host, Stephen K. Babb.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, I'm joined by Caroline Wren.
We were able to bail her out for putting on Rudy's party the other night.
Rudy's party, where he got served by Arizona.
You've got a question.
Thank you for coming by, by the way.
In Palm Beach, you never know who's going to drop by.
All these swells, always coming by.
You've got a question for Royce.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
I did.
Last time I was on the show, we were talking about how, really, March to August is the window of time where they stole the election in 2020, and right now we all need to be on guard and watching what they're doing.
And so this weekend, I was reading about how the Minnesota Governor Tim Walz signed, I guess, something called the Minnesota Voting Rights Act that actually makes it easier for illegal citizens to vote.
So, you know, talking about you being able to win this election, can you talk a little bit about what was in that bill and what we're going to be facing, and is there anything we could do from a legal recourse to try and fix this?
royce white ▲ ● ▼
Well, we've been tracking this for about 18 months on the podcast and here in Minnesota, and it's happening all across the country to have this automatic voter registration.
And then you see the influx of illegal aliens and this invasion that's taking place at the same time.
So, I mean, obviously my legal side of the campaign has to prepare themselves to do everything possible to have the forensic auditing and all of the people in place to hold them accountable the same way Kerry did in her Arizona governor's race.
We're going to do everything we can, but most importantly is this.
We have to make sure that we bring a message so profound to the communities that they'll use to justify any stolen elections, where they leave, even if cheated, if they're successful in cheating, that they leave this election cycle feeling that they've been cheated.
And I think this very strategy by them goes into the theme of the campaign, and I think it's the pillar of our entire movement.
The borders, the debt, the forever wars.
We have to stay focused.
Obviously, the border first.
We got to close our border, we got to pay back the debt, and we got to stop getting involved in forever wars.
But the border, this is one of those issues that's going to resonate with the black community.
It's already started to in multiple places across the country.
So we have to push this hard to make sure people feel cheated.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hang on.
I just want to make sure, and I want you to reiterate it.
You're saying that you, Royce White, are going to take the fight to Amy Klobuchar, one of the most progressive liberal members of the Senate in one of the most liberal states that, you know, gave us Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale, the whole crew.
Now has liberals and progressives trying to get illegal aliens to vote.
You're going to take the fight to her for the black vote On the issues of the illegal invasion of the border, too much federal spending and $35 trillion in debt, and the forever wars in Ukraine?
royce white ▲ ● ▼
This is the number one thing that I hear from black men who have never voted Republican before in my community.
And I know them personally.
And they come to me and they say, listen, we support you, obviously, and we'll vote for you because it's you, but we're voting Republican this time because our grocery bills are out of control.
And when I start to talk to them about the Ukraine war and send another trillion dollars to defend a border a world away, they're not for it.
And then obviously the illegal immigrant situation has gotten so out of control that many black people all across the country have a referendum on that issue.
So it doesn't seem like a stretch to be able to go into the black community with that message.
I think it's one that's going to resonate and the entire Republican Party will be wise to follow me.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Frank Luntz is saying, you know, he's no MAGA fan and no fan of Trump's.
He's saying he thinks that one-third to 40% of African-American males under the age, I think he said of 40, he believes could actually vote for President Trump in this cycle.
Do you buy that?
royce white ▲ ● ▼
Even more.
Even more.
We just gotta have the right messages, we gotta be brave, and we can't let any controlled opposition make this be about culture wedge issues that have nothing to do with preserving American citizenship.
If you don't have a border, if you're $36 trillion in debt, if you defend everybody else's borders more than your own, you don't have a country.
If you don't have a country, you don't have citizenship.
If you don't have citizenship, you don't have freedom.
Black people understand that, and we need to believe that they can, or we may not win.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Royce, where do people go, not just to find out your content, you're here on Real America's Voice, you've got podcasts, you've got radio shows, but also to find out more about your campaign?
royce white ▲ ● ▼
Go to roycewhite.us, that's the campaign website, make a donation, sign up to volunteer and everything else.
We appreciate you, Steve.
It was certainly the war room and the war room posse that got us over the hump there at the convention, and I know a lot of people hated seeing your face show up, as we can see from the mainstream media, but we're proud to be America first.
We won't take a single back step in this campaign.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, we are seeing, uh, we are, uh, this is going to be a national, this election is going to get nationalized very quickly, so we want all the War Room pods to get focused on this.
Royce White, honored to have you on here, sir.
royce white ▲ ● ▼
Godspeed.
Love you, brother.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Thank you, man.
Love you, too.
You've got some other issues you want to go through.
Are we going to have this election stolen, the lawfare?
You've got lawfare and you've got the election.
Right now, we know the message is resonating.
You see the lead story in The Hill this morning is how in battleground states you're seeing these Democrats run away from Biden and his agenda.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
Oh yeah, I would if I'm a Democrat.
They don't want to campaign anywhere near him, but the good news is that none of the Democrats campaigned.
So for them, the Senate candidates are all doing the Katie Hobbs basement strategy where they hide in their basement.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
That's true.
You don't see these guys anywhere.
You don't see Gallego in Arizona, right?
You're not really seeing Tester in Montana.
They're all hiding, right?
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, they're doing the same Biden strategy.
They don't need to campaign, right?
They just, they have a tremendous amount of money behind them.
They know exactly how many votes that they need.
They are funded through these Arabella-visor Soros entities to get the exact vote totals out.
They hide their candidates from the media.
They don't do public events.
And then we sit there, caught flat-footed.
And a big problem that's happening right now with the lawfare, for example, like what we just saw with the governor there, we have to be more aggressive in what we are doing to start suing now.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You mean the governor in Minnesota, making it easier for illegal aliens to vote?
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
But what is happening though is the lawfare is so problematic.
Do you remember when they founded the 65 Project?
That was founded by David Brock, the head of Media Matters, American Bridge, along with
some Perkins Co. attorneys.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
To take out all the lawyers.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
Yes, and that is what they're doing right now.
There's not enough lawyers to be fighting all this.
It's not like there's no appetite among us to be able to do it, and we're trying to get
organized.
But they are taking, they've filed over 400 charges, civil suits, criminal suits, sanctions,
different things, on Republican attorneys.
They've filed 100 disbarments on different attorneys.
And they just arrested John Eastman this weekend.
They raided my birthday party for Rudy Giuliani.
I mean, they want to systematically lock up— Both for this Arizona— Yeah.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And to put in—it's ridiculous to do the electors.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Because they're throwing the people around it.
It just shows you the overreach of these AGs and local prosecutors.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, and they want to tie up every single Republican-leaning attorney ahead of November so that they can't be there to do the poll watching, the office of lawsuits that we want to do.
And so right now we're just really encouraging attorneys that we know it is a scary time, but you have to be able to be willing to step forward for the rule of law, help out the Republican Party, and then we have to get Republicans in office to stop this, stop this insanity.
And I would hope, as Mike Davis says, to also turn the tables on them and go after them.
And so I would hope that Mike Davis is going to head up in addition to being the Attorney General.
acting Attorney General Spike would say.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Initially he'll be the viceroy, right?
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
Right, yes. The viceroy of D.C.
But I would love to see him head up a 65, a 47 project, let's call it.
How about that? Where he goes back and he targets these Mark Elias, these Perkins Cooey, all of these
attorneys and puts them and gets them caught flat-footed because they're even going after
with some of these, any attorney that's ever worked in or around President Trump or any of these entities
they will go after any companies that work with them.
I mean, the left is so ruthless.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
They're trying to take their clients away.
By the way, you're fighting for the control of the most powerful nation on earth.
They're clearly going to be ruthless.
The reason they're ruthless is they have donors that are ruthless that are prepared to support this.
Where does the donors stand right now?
Because you take resources in back of these private... I mean, David Brock Arabella, they have access to hundreds of billions of dollars.
You know, people look at George Soros, he's just one small element, right?
I mean, Arabella takes from all these, and a bunch of these folks are not American citizens, right?
They're taking it from foreign donors.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
Oh yeah, look at Melinda Gates.
You saw there was a big statement that she left the Gates Foundation and she basically said, I'm taking 1.5 billion dollars of my money out of this and I'm starting, she's going political with it.
That's what she was saying in that statement when she separated herself from the Bill Gates Foundation.
The amount of money they have pouring into this web of non-profits is truly unbelievable and it goes to support these little tentacle entities such as the 65 Project.
And so 70-75% of the country is with us.
But there's this cabal of money and organization, and they are on the march against Western civilization, quite frankly.
And so we're trying to be as targeted and coordinated as we can.
I will say there's a lot more movement than I'm seeing right now, a lot more coordination.
There's a lot more calls going on with attorneys and Republican officials trying to really go on offense.
But goodness is at heart, and it's hard because they are just militants.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The DNC, too, is just a shell.
The way the Democrats roll for our audience is really through these outside groups, Arabella in particular, because they said the DNC is too incompetent.
What we're going to do is put big piles of money.
Where we have that, it's really in back of Senate candidates through Stephen Law and McConnell.
And you see, like Paul Singer, putting in back of Johnson.
And I keep saying it's to cover their bet that they will have control if Trump wins or not.
It's fine, but it's an option.
It's not a must-have.
Their money's going to the back of the House and the Senate.
They're not really going after lawfare because, quite frankly, most of the attorneys that you're going after are MAGA attorneys.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
Oh yeah, they're all MAGA attorneys, but the left is so much more organized and purposeful with their funding, and they do their funding through these non-profits because you can register voters through 501c3s, you can do issue advocacy through 501c4s, and they put their money in these donor advised funds, they move it all around, they pool it together.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You're saying it's all dark money.
It's all dark money.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, Sheldon Whitehouse will never talk about this.
On the left side, of course, on the right side, he loves to call out and investigate anyone.
So, Republicans have got to just restructure the way we fund things.
And we're also getting crushed in low-dollar funding because ActBlue is basically the largest money-laundering organization in the world.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
What do you mean?
Talk specifically, particularly foreign donations and all that.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
Well, ActBlue is their competitor to WinRed, right?
It's their donation platform.
However, they are so much more, one, strategic in the way that they share their different lists and stuff.
Republican donors constantly are complaining to me about how they get bombarded.
They give one donation, you get hit up by everyone.
The left is way more organized within ActBlue, but it is tied to Amalgamated Bank.
And Amalgamated Bank is where all the unions bank, Arabella banks, everyone.
And the amount of what they call un-itemized money.
Un-itemized means under $200.
You don't necessarily have to report the name for the FEC.
That is pouring through.
Act Blue is unbelievable.
And in fact, you know who was on the lead on this was James O'Keefe.
Do you remember that video of him showing up at people's house?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
O'Keefe went to people's doors and the little old lady had given like $200, under $200.
And she says, I've never given him a penny in my life.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
Yep.
And that's why they had to take out James O'Keefe.
Notice what they are doing.
They have to take out the strongest and the biggest fighters among us.
And they are doing it.
They are doing it right now.
And luckily, we have people who are willing to actually have a backbone and say, I'm not going anywhere.
I'm going to keep stepping down and fighting.
But it slows us down when we do this.
And so we need more coming into the movement, more joining us this fight, more citizen journalists looking into things like this.
How hard is it to look up?
You can go look up yourselves on ActBlue.
Go look and see if your neighbors have been giving on there and then go ask them.
Did you actually make this donation?
Because you will be shocked at the amount of money that is pouring in through that.
And that is why you see people like Sherrod Brown in Ohio raising $12.5 million last quarter to Bernie Moreno's $2 million.
Give me a break.
$12.5 million?
The guy was barely even holding fund and it's all just un-itemized donations through ActBlue.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
ActBlue, though, handles their small donor base different than WinRed.
One of the complaints here at WinRed, it's just too much.
If you're having to give a small donation, you're constantly bombarded non-stop.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, the Republican messaging on Lodar Fundraising is abysmal.
Every time I look at my phone, I get a text message saying, give right now or we'll shoot your dog and light your house on fire.
It's like, how is that motivating?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Is this run by Kristi Noem?
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, so I get all the Dems.
I signed up for their different donation.
I get a nice text from Jon Tester every morning.
Good morning!
It's a beautiful day today.
I would really appreciate it if you could give $8.
If not, no big deal.
Here's what I'm going to be doing on the campaign trail today.
Thanks so much.
Here's a link.
And it's, you're getting an update in actual, with the Republicans win red, you were just bombarded with these text messages about triple 500x match and no one's buying, who actually thinks that that's happening?
No one's buying this crap.
I've never gotten a single text message from the Democrats or email saying triple quadruple x match anything.
So it's a problem within these Republican digital firms that are just so unimaginative.
They have no message whatsoever and they're completely overwhelming the Republican donor base that did not sign up to have their phone numbers and emails just bombarded to 500 different candidates.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
If people want to continue this conversation with you, where do they go?
What's your social media?
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
You can follow me at Caroline Wren on Twitter, Gitter, or Truth Social.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
At Caroline Renn.
Caroline, thank you for stopping by.
Actually, you were down here because the party was at your house the other night that was raided by the authorities to try to roll up Rudy.
Rudy was doing his podcast.
I was fortunate enough to do it early, but everybody knows I go to bed very early, so it was hours after.
Caroline Renn and this crowd down here are late night.
This Palm Beach crowd is a late night crowd, so they got rolled up early.
But for Rudy, we're going to try to get Rudy on the show tomorrow and the next day.
It's been a huge success putting him up on Getter and Rumble and on My Personal Thing.
I think he's got a two times or three times bigger audience than he had at WABC.
Thanks for coming in, girl.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Caroline Wren, make sure you track her on social media.
One more time, where did they go?
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼
It comes in a little hot over there sometimes.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You might want to sign up.
Okay.
Birchgold.com.
Make sure you get The End of the Dollar Empire.
Philip Patrick was able to join us for 30 minutes on Saturday.
It's so tough to get those guys during the week, but they will take questions from Warwick.
unidentified
Go to birchgold.com.
I'm concerned about the candidates that Republicans have put forth.
In fact, when you look at the Kerry Lakes of Arizona, the Herschel Walkers of Georgia, and then the Doug Mastrianos of Pennsylvania, then those are the people we should be most afraid of.
Incumbent Senator Raphael Warnock has defeated Trump-picked Republican challenger Herschel Walker in Georgia's runoff election.
There are many Republicans across the country who have begun to see the light of day and realize that neither party is right all the time, right?
And that somehow we have to come together to pick candidates, to choose and elect candidates who actually are qualified intellectually, character-wise, to represent us.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, another big upset.
One in Minnesota, another big upset in Georgia.
Amy Kramer now joins us.
Amy, you upset an establishment candidate.
The establishment down there in Georgia is not happy.
Give us an assessment.
unidentified
Yes, Steve.
I won for National Committee Woman Saturday in Columbus, Georgia, and I'm so excited.
It's not about me.
It's about the people of Georgia.
It's about the base of the Republican Party, that they wanted somebody who's going to fight with them, be in the game, and actually stand up for them.
And we haven't had that in a long time.
And with all the losses across Georgia statewide, we've lost 15 House seats.
15 statehouse seats, five Senate seats, Georgia 7 flipped blue.
And then, you know, as you just showed in that clip, two Georgia US Senate seats flipped to Democrats.
That's not acceptable.
And people want change.
And people also want somebody that is going to stand up and fight for Donald Trump.
And I have been out on the front lines fighting for Donald Trump for a long time.
And after I won, people were coming up and congratulating me and saying they were looking forward to what I'm able to do.
And I had one woman come up and say to me, I need you to promise me one thing.
And I said, sure, what's that?
And she said, promise me you will not flip on Trump.
And I said, absolutely, I'm not going to flip on Trump.
I have devoted my life to this movement.
I'm not going to flip on Trump.
So that's what we've been seeing here in Georgia, is people get elected saying one thing, they get in there, they do something else.
And Georgia's corrupt.
And the biggest part of the problem are the Republicans.
And so, as you know, I've always been an outsider willing to push on the Republicans, and I'm not afraid to do that.
But I want the base to have a voice at the Georgia GOP, as well at the RNC, and that's why they elected me.
They elected me to stand up and fight for them.
And I'm honored and humbled to actually have their support and that they believe in me.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Are the Kemp forces, because this is one of the most, you know, for having a MAGA voter base, right, and being Georgia's red, and man, it's got some MAGA patriots down there, you have an establishment that is probably, I think, maybe the most anti-Trump establishment in Roethlisberger, Kemp.
I mean, you got some bad hombres down there that hate President Trump and hate MAGA.
How are you guys going to sort that out?
unidentified
Well, Steve, the fact of the matter is there's more of us than there are of them.
It's not just that they hate Trump and hate MAGA.
You would not believe the comments that I heard from these establishment people, the bashing of the Tea Party movement.
I mean, they're still hung up on the Tea Party movement.
And that's one of the things I stood up on stage and said is, look, if it weren't for the Tea Party movement, you wouldn't have Donald J. Trump.
It was the Tea Party movement that took back the House in 2010.
and took back the Senate in 2014.
It's the Tea Party movement that has won these elections.
But the word Tea Party, they hate Tea Party.
Somebody else said, I don't want to hear about the grassroots.
I'm so sick of hearing grassroots.
Well, Steve, these are the principled people that actually are what make the people that make things happen in this party.
They're the ones that stand up and fight back and knock on doors, make phone calls, do the things that need to be done.
And if it weren't for the grassroots, There would be no party because we've seen at the RNC and also at the Georgia GOP that, you know, the base is everything.
You cannot have a party without the base because they're the ones out there doing the work.
And we saw that with Ronna, you know, with her leadership, the money wasn't coming in.
When they changed leadership at the RNC, the money started flowing again.
The base is energized because they believe in Michael Whatley and Laura Trump.
And so this is an opportunity for a new beginning.
And I'm really excited about that.
But at the end of the day, there are more of us than them.
And we need to go out there and grow this party.
And one of the problems is when you have people in the party that are bashing the grassroots, bashing Tea Party, I mean, that's not the way to grow the party.
Their actions don't meet their words.
So we need to engage.
We need to be positive.
We need to be happy warriors and go out there and do our thing.
And we need to win elections.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Are you confident that RNC has totally seen the light?
I mean, there have been some changes, but the people got a lot of questions about actually what's going on.
Is the rubber going to meet the road?
Not just get out the vote, but more importantly, to get after this election fraud.
I mean, in Georgia, what was released in Georgia over the last couple of weeks, people's heads are blowing up.
So what is your primary role on the RNC going to be?
unidentified
Well, I hope that we are seeing a change with the RNC and that they are going to have a big focus on securing our elections.
That was the two things I ran on, is it's time to secure our elections and win again.
So there are things happening at the RNC.
They're working with the states, being proactive on the legal front, which is very good.
They need to be doing that.
Back in 2020, when Biden was announced that they had 600-plus lawyers across the country, focused on the upcoming election.
Where was the RNC?
What were they doing?
Now, they are out there being proactive and going into some of these states
and filing these election integrity lawsuits.
So I'm happy to see that.
There are two right here in Georgia that I hope that they will pay attention to
because the Georgia GOP is not engaged with them.
And that's one in Cobb County about home rule.
And we've lost that at the Georgia Supreme Court.
And the importance of it is that what happens there is the County Commission goes in
and redraws, they don't use the legislative maps.
They draw their own maps and use their own maps for Cobb County's elections.
And it's about setting precedence, Steve.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Are we going to, are we going to, you just had the thing about the multiple ballots that were counted a number of times, they've got hundreds of thousands that haven't been counted.
Are you confident right now that Georgia, that we're going to have a fair count in Georgia?
If that happens, Trump wins in a blowout.
Are you confident today on the 20th of May, five months or six months before the election, that that's going to happen?
unidentified
I hope that it happens, but what we need to do is we need to get people engaged where they are poll watching.
They're working at polls.
I mean, that's the thing is we need Republicans to sign up to be poll watchers and poll workers.
And you can't wait to the last minute.
That's one thing that we need to be doing right now.
Is bringing people in, getting them trained to do this, because you cannot wait to the last minute to get it done.
And we can't win without that.
We have to turn up and turn out to vote, and we have to watch and do poll working and poll watching.
That is so important.
And we need attorneys at all these elections in these counties across the state.
And supposedly that's been being worked on as I speak.
I'm not sure about that, but it should be because that was one of the issues back in 2020.
We had no, and I think Caroline Wren just spoke to that.
Where were the attorneys?
So we need that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Well, I know the RNC, Bill McGinley, these guys I think are on it.
At least my daily reports are there on it.
Where do they get you, Amy?
Where do people find you right now?
unidentified
You can find out more about me and get on my email list at amykramer.com and I'm also on Twitter at amykramer.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Amy, congratulations.
Take the fire to them down there.
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