May 11, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| I have a tendency to change meaning. | ||
| When I was a boy, woman meant someone who didn't have a... Populism has become a word used synonymously with racist, we've heard ethno-nationalist, with bigot, with hillbilly, redneck, with deplorables. | ||
| Elites use it to show their contempt for ordinary people. | ||
| This is a recent change. | ||
| And if we were arguing that fascism was a threat to democracy, I'd be on that side of the house. | ||
| Indeed, the current populist age is a movement against fascism. | ||
| I've got quite a lot to get through. | ||
| Populism, as you know, is the politics of the ordinary people against an elite. | ||
| Populism is not a threat to democracy. | ||
| Populism is democracy. | ||
| And why else have universal suffrage if not to keep elites in check? | ||
| Pelosi is on that side of the motion. | ||
| I thought the left was supposed to be anti-elite. | ||
| I thought the left was supposed to be anti-establishment. | ||
| Today, particularly in America, the globalist left have become the establishment. | ||
| I suppose for Miss Pelosi to have taken this side of the motion, she'd be arguing herself out of a job. | ||
| But it's here in Britain where right and left populists united for the supreme act of democracy. | ||
| Brexit. | ||
| Polls have showed the number one reason people voted for Brexit was sovereignty. | ||
| For more democracy. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| What was the response of the Brussels elite? | ||
| They did everything in their power to undermine the democratic will of the British people. | ||
| And the Westminster elite were just as disgraceful. | ||
| As we've heard, David Cameron called the voters fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists. | ||
| The Liberal Democrats did everything they could to overturn a democratic vote. | ||
| Keir Starmer campaigned for a second referendum. | ||
| Elise would have had us voting and voting and voting until we voted their way. | ||
| Indeed, that's what happened in Ireland and in Denmark. | ||
| Because he didn't get 81 million votes and cats and matinis, as dumb as you are, as dumb as you are, even you, Can understand that. | ||
| And this is just gutless cowardness. | ||
| I'm gonna tell you, we're gonna dog you, okay? | ||
| We're gonna dog WABC, right? | ||
| I love Sid Rosenberg. | ||
| Every Monday I've been doing, for the last month or two, his morning show on Monday mornings. | ||
| I love the guy. | ||
| He's fantastic. | ||
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I love him too. | |
| We can't, we can't do any more WABC. | ||
| The real Ron is in my- All men should understand, you got stabbed in the back today in the biggest talk radio station in New York City. | ||
| The biggest one, the biggest talk radio station, if not the biggest in the country. | ||
| You got stabbed in the back because they're too gutless They're too gutless to face up to the Biden regime and tell them you're not legitimate. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And we will never back off from that award room. | ||
| And here's the reason why. | ||
| Because it happens to be the truth. | ||
| The truth is, let me repeat this. | ||
| Donald Trump won 2020. | ||
| Joe Biden's illegitimate. | ||
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He's an illegitimate usurper at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. | |
| So take your number two pencil out there and write that down. | ||
| Before Covid, intelligence services colluded with big tech to have Trump suspended off Twitter. | ||
| Yes, the same platform which hosted the Taliban and Ayatollah Def to Israel Khomeini, they thought the president crossed the line when he tweeted on Jan 6th, quote, remain peaceful, no violence, respect the law and our great men and women in blue. | ||
| That's a quote. | ||
| You may be thinking now that Trump is a populist. | ||
| You are right. | ||
| He didn't accept the 2020 elections and he should have. | ||
| So should Hillary in 2016. | ||
| So should Brussels. | ||
| And so should Westminster in 2016. | ||
| And so too should Congresswoman Pelosi instead of saying the 2016 election was quote hijacked. | ||
| Quote hijacked. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| doctor. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What about the mainstream media? | ||
| Let me read you some mainstream media headlines. | ||
| The New Yorker the day before the 2016 election. | ||
| The case against democracy. | ||
| The Washington Post the day after the election. | ||
| The problem with our government is democracy. | ||
| The LA Times, June 2017. | ||
| The British election is a reminder of the perils of too much democracy. | ||
| Vox, June 2017. | ||
| The two eminent political scientists say the problem with democracy is voters. | ||
| New York Times, June 2017. | ||
| The problem with participatory democracy is the participants. | ||
| Mainstream media elites are part of a class who don't just disdain populism, they disdain the people. | ||
| If the Democrats had put half their energy into delivering for the people, Trump wouldn't even have a chance in 2024. | ||
| He shouldn't have a chance. | ||
| You've had power for four years. | ||
| From the fabricated Steele dossier, to trying to take him off the ballot in both Maine and Colorado, The Democrats are the anti-Democrat party. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bowne. | ||
| It's Saturday, 11 May, Year of Our Lord. | ||
| Just to make sure everybody understands, that was not Parliament. | ||
| That was the Oxford Union. | ||
| You're seeing, essentially, college kids or college kids, maybe slight post-graduates, right? | ||
| They're arguing about putting forward the proposition about populism is democracy and giving a brow-beating to Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| Most of you remember my Oxford Union discussion and talk with those students, I think, what, in 2018, 2019? | ||
| We took an armored personnel carrier to actually get into the yard at Oxford. | ||
| A lot of folks there were not happy about it. | ||
| Of course, last night I was honored to spend two hours or an hour and a half or so with Rudy Giuliani, kind of dropped by his podcast. | ||
| We're going to be making announcements how we're going to help Since WABC unceremoniously leaked to the New York Times, they fired Rudy Giuliani yesterday for the grievous mortal sin of talking about the stolen election of 2020. | ||
| Well, hey, WABC, we're never going to back off that. | ||
| Joe Biden is not legitimate. | ||
| He's a usurper that has taken possession of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and he is going to be turfed out Before too long, a ton of political articles up today. | ||
| We'll try to get to all of them. | ||
| We're going to juggle things around. | ||
| We have some cultural stuff due. | ||
| We got Birch Gold. | ||
| We got a very special guest. | ||
| I'm not going to announce it until they arrive because we've got to make sure they actually get here live in Palm Beach, the West Palm Beach studio of Real America Voice. | ||
| But there's all types of breaking news going on. | ||
| I want to get to the signal, not the noise. | ||
| Before we get back to politics, Ben Harnwell joins us and we hope we can actually pick up Ben's signal given the, I guess, is it the sunburst or the sunspot or Last night, CNN's turned their entire programming over this. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, can you hear me in Rome, sir? | ||
| Good morning, Steve. | ||
| I hear you coming through loud and clear. | ||
| By the way, Ben, so the Oxford Union, explain to our audience the awfully, awfully Oxford Union. | ||
| They have some great debates over there. | ||
| I was honored to go there, I think in 2018, and actually give a speech and take questions from a collection of very bright students. | ||
| We just heard right there a complete throwdown on what is populism and how populism is democracy. | ||
| Populism is not anti-democracy. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| Well just a quick briefer then for our largely American audience. | ||
| The Oxford of the two famous English Universities Oxford in Cambridge. | ||
| Oxford was always considered to be ever so slightly more political, and therefore I think its union was considered to be really the feeding ground for Parliament. | ||
| And you can see there, you have the two dispatch boxes, those boxes on the table is a mirror of the debating chamber in the House of Commons. | ||
| And the style of the debate It's very much a training school for aspirants to hold elected office. | ||
| American education is pretty good and probably better than ours in a number of respects. | ||
| But I think in terms of this culture of debating, England is still, the UK is still second to none or world leader. | ||
| I'd like to see, you know, I just dropped this in there, I would like to see sort of college students from a number of universities in the States trying to debate to that degree of standard. | ||
| Because of course, in the US, so many kids now have been lost and sucked in to this monolithic woke movement, which of course we've been seeing in a | ||
| different context over the last few days. | ||
| This is, I think, an example of what education is absolutely there to do, which is to encourage | ||
| people to speak, to think for themselves and to communicate and to convince. | ||
| And we saw that. | ||
| We saw this 20-year-old kid now just basically taking Nancy Pelosi out to the woodshed. | ||
| Great arguments I thought he'd produced on the nature of populism. | ||
| He said, I don't think we actually had the excerpt here in the cold open, but one of his great putouts directly in front of Speaker Pelosi was that establishment Democrats have become the globalists, and it's the populist movement now which is responding to people because populism, as he said, And I thought there were great arguments he'd produced. | ||
| He obviously indicated the Democrats' hypocrisy back in 2016, which I think Donald Trump has done nothing beyond replicate their own position in 2016, but with far greater success. | ||
| How can you claim, how can you say that A result should maintaining result isn't valid is anti-democratic. | ||
| When the Democrats did this in 2016, of course, you had the selection of the headlines there from newspapers who Hitting down on Donald Trump and have been doing, saying that he's anti-democratic. | ||
| Well, of course, they themselves were just far more anti-democratic than anything you will find in the MAGA movement. | ||
| And they were brazenly so, for the simple reason that the election didn't go their way. | ||
| I'll close on this point. | ||
| You can see that the establishment This is Uniparty, I point out, not Democrats. | ||
| The Uniparty is moving in an anti-democratic fashion, Steve, because of the way they're trying to Trump-proof NATO and defence spending over the next 10 years, because they deliberately don't want Donald Trump empowered with a popular mandate to come into power and to affect that mandate. | ||
| So nothing is really changing. | ||
| All they're doing is doubling down. | ||
| And of course, as this kid said in his opening, Words are changing their meaning. | ||
| Winston Marshall is actually the young man there that was arguing, and yeah, we'll try to play clips later about his full beatdown of Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| Quite extraordinary from a young college student who really had a good grasp on populism. | ||
| I'm going to hold you through the break. | ||
| In fact, I'd like to hold you for the first hour. | ||
| We're juggling things here because we're going to change up our programming this morning. | ||
| We may have a guest hopefully drive by here live and we can Give some breaking news. | ||
| Real quickly, you've made the argument, which I think is quite brilliant, that what Johnson did and the House did was to bail out Biden and particularly his Ukraine war plan. | ||
| Can you give us a 30-second update of what we're going to talk about when you get back about the offensive that's going on right now? | ||
| Yeah, this is simply, it has not been going the Uniparty's way. | ||
| There's been a massive push up around Kharkiv, up in the north-eastern corner of Ukraine, and we're going to be sort of saying now, after the break, the implications of this and the war, and possibly the potential European response to that. | ||
| Okay, President Trump has a rally today in New Jersey. | ||
| I think he spent the weekend at Bedminster, so he'll be back on the trial on Monday. | ||
| This is how they're restricting his ability to get out to the hinterland, but he says New Jersey's in play. | ||
| We'll get to all of that in a moment. | ||
| A couple of surprise programming notes from Real America's Voice. | ||
| We're going to make sure you're aware of. | ||
| We've got a lot to get through this morning. | ||
| Birchgold's going to be with us. | ||
| Remember, Birchgold, times of turbulence. | ||
| In times of turbulence, Philip Patrick's going to be here. | ||
| We're going to talk about the end of the dollar empire, also current moves in gold in the capital markets. | ||
| We're going to break it all down for you, particularly what it looks like spending's going to be over the next couple of years and how that's going to impact. | ||
| You think inflation's bad now? | ||
| You ain't seen nothing yet, baby. | ||
| Birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| The end of the dollar empire. | ||
| Also get access to Philip Patrick. | ||
| Ben Harnwell on the other side. | ||
| Okay, Ben Harnwell, this is the reason it's important. | ||
| You're seeing a shift. | ||
| By the way, Axios this morning... So there's two lead stories, one in Politico, one in Axios. | ||
| Axios says... | ||
| It's a scoop from Axios and they're saying people are discussing in the Nikki Haley camp, you know, I don't know if this is the way to start your Saturday off, okay, but we're going to do it anyway because this is the war room. | ||
| Scoop, Axios, Nikki Haley camp, Trump camp. | ||
| Talking about Nikki Haley's potential vice president. | ||
| I'm hearing from well-placed sources that's all BS. | ||
| That's just Nikki Haley spin and certain donors and maybe Republican operatives floating around Trump world. | ||
| This is not real. | ||
| But Politico says Biden's all over the Nikki Haley voters. | ||
| Trump could care less. | ||
| Nikki Haley got 20%. | ||
| That's a huge mistake for Trump. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Biden is, they've dropped all pretense of trying to re-elect Biden on his record. | ||
| They don't talk about Bidenomics. | ||
| Everything they touch is turning to hell. | ||
| And now the Democrats, stories of the last couple of days, the Democrats are trying to put forward a bill to show how tough they are, to show how tough they are on the border. | ||
| That's what a disaster the border, the illegal alien invasion is. | ||
| So now they're going to a strategy to get off being a referendum on his illegitimate regime and make it on Trump. | ||
| That, hey, you may not like me. | ||
| I can't get your vote. | ||
| I can't close. | ||
| You know, they don't talk about 81 million votes anymore because they never got them. | ||
| But Trump's a demon. | ||
| Trump's a devil. | ||
| Stop Trump. | ||
| A big part of that. | ||
| A huge part of that. | ||
| And the reason Nikki Haley's floating around DonorLand and, you know, she hasn't endorsed Trump, and she's trying to look to where she's going to get a, to work her way in here, is this war in Ukraine, which Nikki Haley was all over. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, you've got grim news from the front, and I think the grimmest news is, when you talk about this Russian offensive and Ukrainians not being standing up, they don't have their 500,000 new troops, do they not, sir? | ||
| They don't, Steve. | ||
| They're desperately trying to get troops from all sorts of directions, as we've been covering recently. | ||
| Look, the thing here about this attack on Kharkiv, this is being described quite accurately as Russia's largest assault in Ukraine. | ||
| In the last two years, there are a number of different interpretations to what the Russian game is here. | ||
| Some people are suggesting it's trying to create a 10 kilometre border there on the northern reaches of Kharkiv towards the Belgorod province in Russia. | ||
| What is absolutely undoubted, however, is that before Russia was sort of coming in and Kharkiv has been under heavy bombardment really more or less over the last 18 months of | ||
| this war. | ||
| But those forces tend to be coming in, and if I get this right, because the image here | ||
| is inverted for you guys, the forces were coming in from the Luhansk province, coming | ||
| in westwards towards Kharkiv. | ||
| Now they're coming directly from the north, from Russia itself. | ||
| So the suggestion is, in addition to creating this buffer zone, perhaps the wider tactic | ||
| is to draw out Ukrainian defenses from Donetsk, bring them up to support Kharkiv, because | ||
| Building on what I just said about this being the largest assault in two years, everyone now is looking towards the major Russian summer offensive, and perhaps this could be a prelude to that. | ||
| The other point, Steve, I'll just quickly tack on that, is because if Harki falls with its huge symbolic and strategic importance, what is going to happen? | ||
| That's an open question. | ||
| It's not a not a rhetorical question. What is the response going to be? | ||
| America has already given its famously 61 billion in support a couple of weeks ago. They | ||
| gave an extra 400 million yesterday. But will this be the sign that Europe needs to | ||
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put an increase? | |
| Psychologically, this is going to be a massive psychological blow. | ||
| A year ago, look, we've been against this war since the beginning. | ||
| We told everybody this is ridiculous. | ||
| They're going to fight to the last Ukrainian. | ||
| Like Dr. Mersheimer from the University of Chicago told us, they're going to fight to the last Ukrainian. | ||
| And right now, the mothers and fathers are getting their kids out of the country as quickly as possible. | ||
| Psychologically, this will be a massive blow. | ||
| Would it not for the entire effort with France and all these big talkers saying we're going to put combat troops in. | ||
| I think it's all talk, particularly the fact of you don't hear any talk like you did last year, sir, of a spring offensive coming from the Ukrainians. | ||
| Ben Harnwell. | ||
| No, well, really the best that after they pivoted last year, the Ukrainians moved from going on offensive just a bit to digging in. | ||
| It's triple line defense systems really against the Donbass and against the northeastern border with Russia. | ||
| That's really what they were doing. | ||
| They scrapped the offensive. | ||
| They took all the money from the West, promising huge victories. | ||
| And then when that failed to materialize, they then pivoted, you know, understandably from a military strategic The only other European country that has been mentioned with regards to specific personnel in Ukraine is the UK. | ||
| than their offensive offenses. | ||
| Well, so Macron has said that he's sending boots on the ground. | ||
| This was last week, I think, into Ukraine. | ||
| The only other European country that has been mentioned with regards to specific personnel | ||
| in Ukraine is the UK. | ||
| They're not there officially, but so many reports have confirmed that Britain has sent | ||
| people out there. | ||
| The question is, if Harki falls, will, how will Europe respond? | ||
| And the big question mark underneath that, and I close on this point, is the European | ||
| elections. | ||
| Europeans do not want to be dragged into a war. | ||
| And with Ukraine, especially after all these corruption stories are now coming out on a daily basis, we do not want to be dragged into abuse, certainly into abuse, on the ground presence in Ukraine. | ||
| What will our sociopathic overlords do, however, to keep Biden in the White House in November? | ||
| This is why we started the Oxford Union on this fight over what is populism. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi getting blown up in front of those kids because she couldn't hold her own. | ||
| The European Parliamentary elections in June are going to be a predicate like Brexit was to the 16 victories. | ||
| The June victory in the European Parliament of the right wing will be a predicate for our sweeping victory in 2024. | ||
| OK, we talk about voting every couple of years, every four years. | ||
| The folks at public squares say, hey, full stop, you vote every day. | ||
| And what we're doing and why we're building this alternative economy is because it's time to stop giving money to people that hate you, like Democrats, progressives, radicals. | ||
| Real America's Voice, partnering with Public Square, has got a great new show, 8 p.m. | ||
| tonight, Eastern Daylight Time, on Saturday. | ||
| Replays on Sunday. | ||
| Let me just give you a taste of it. | ||
| Let's roll. | ||
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It's no secret, big corporations don't like your values. | |
| Cold fried themed baby clothes. | ||
| A can with my face on it. | ||
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Starbucks will pay travel expenses to access abortion. | |
| It's time to stop funding traitors and start supporting patriots. | ||
| And I'm here to show you how. | ||
| You're in good hands. | ||
| I have a lot of experience in the shopping games. | ||
| This is straight fantasy. | ||
| It's fashion meets function meets travel meets everyday. | ||
| Go to publicsquare.com or download our app and let's start shopping. | ||
| I'm your host, Erin Elmore, and you're watching Public Square Live. | ||
| Erin Elmore now joins us. | ||
| This show is live at 8 o'clock Eastern Daylight Time tonight on Real America's Voice after all the activity we had with President Trump today up in New Jersey. | ||
| Erin, it looks to me like this is not the first time you've ever done this, ma'am. | ||
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No, this is an accidental job that I didn't know that I needed. | |
| Just watching that open, I was just pinching myself. | ||
| I can't believe this has come to fruition. | ||
| Michael Siefert, who is the CEO of Public Square, we were just having a casual coffee and he asked what I did before politics. | ||
| And I said, I was on air at QVC and a light bulb went off in his head because Public Square has all these amazing small business, whether it's natural products or made in the USA. | ||
| When you see them on an app or see them just online or even on a shelf, You might think they're great, but once you hear these personal stories, it just really makes you build a connection. | ||
| And I think that's what's so important. | ||
| We really do want to build a parallel economy. | ||
| We want to stop giving our money to people that hate us and don't share our values, who actively want to destroy us. | ||
| So this is so fun. | ||
| It's so perfect. | ||
| I'm so excited. | ||
| How did you work at QVC? | ||
| You sound like you're MAGA. | ||
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You sound like you're definitely anti-woke. | |
| How did that work? | ||
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I'm very MAGA. | |
| So this was a long time ago. | ||
| So I was on The Apprentice, if you want the whole backstory. | ||
| And, you know, Donald Trump, of course, I got the year fired. | ||
| But then he helped me because I have an undergrad degree in journalism. | ||
| He helped me get into journalism. | ||
| And after a year at a news station, I wanted to move back to Philadelphia. | ||
| That's where QVC is. | ||
| Got a job on QVC for 10 years. | ||
| Sally, I was hosting. | ||
| And then 2016 rolls around. | ||
| I get a job with President Trump as a surrogate and the RNC deputy press secretary in Cleveland. | ||
| And I said, QVC, I'm out of here. | ||
| Was it just too much, given that you had gone full MAGA and you were a big supporter of President Trump? | ||
| Was it just too tough? | ||
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I just don't think I had the bandwidth to do all of those things, but I certainly learned a lot. | |
| People might look down upon QVC, but you're listening in real time to what's selling and what's doing well. | ||
| If you have a few colors of a product, they say, go back to the red. | ||
| The red's selling out. | ||
| So it's like really fun. | ||
| It was really real time, a lot of learning, long hours, but that's why Public Square Live is so important. | ||
| I do have the experience. | ||
| I am a patriot. | ||
| I want to give these business owners a voice. | ||
| I want to give them a platform. | ||
| So it was like almost the perfect storm of ideas all coming together to make our country more patriotic. | ||
| We're going to hold you through the break. | ||
| Give me 30 seconds. | ||
| You're going to be highlighting the entrepreneurs on the show. | ||
| One of the things is the people get to know them as people and know their stories. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| For example, there's a brand called Bag Ups. | ||
| And if you look at trash bags online, you're like, okay. | ||
| But then when you find out they're completely biodegradable. | ||
| The CEO is a veteran. | ||
| His wife is disabled. | ||
| So he only hires Those who are disabled and veterans, and they biodegrade, so you're not hurting the environment. | ||
| So when you hear a story like that, you're like, I am absolutely going to buy these. | ||
| There's Alpenia, which is natural dish detergent. | ||
| You find out that those little pods that we all use have all these harmful microplastics in them, and then they get on our dishes, and then we and our children eat off those dishes. | ||
| Why would we do that? | ||
| So it's been a real educational process, and you learn so much about so many different products. | ||
| And they're all on our side. | ||
| We talk about how we're patriots, how many of them have been cancelled, shadowbanned. | ||
| So we all have a home together. | ||
| And when people watch this, they're going to say, I'm buying everything, because that's what I've done. | ||
| I talked to these people, and now I'm buying literally everything. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Hang on for one second, Aaron. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Ben Harnwell's riding shotgun with me. | ||
| We're going to get more into Public Square Live. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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Monday will be what? | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| Okay, I'm going to go ahead and get started. | ||
| I'm going to go ahead and get started. | ||
| Okay, why is the War Room audience continue to be so intense and grow and grow in this urgency? | ||
| One is we immerse you in information, give you access to information, give you access to political and business leaders. | ||
| In addition, we give you optionality. | ||
| That's kind of a business or Wall Street term to make sure that you've got lots of different alternatives and options to choose from and you can think through your free men and women and make your own decisions. | ||
| Some of the reasons we're so happy about the entrepreneurs who get up here building the alternative economy. | ||
| Of course, the exchange for that, the guys are really trying to build this exchange so you can go there as a team at Public Square. | ||
| Michael's been a supporter and a sponsor here for years. | ||
| Fantastic guy. | ||
| We met him when he first came out of kind of the marketing, digital marketing area of Silicon Valley. | ||
| Just, to me, a hero. | ||
| And it shows you that you've got the best of the best in the Patriot and MAGA movement. | ||
| Aaron, Elmore, you've been a professional of this for a long time. | ||
| One of the things we tell people is stop, you don't have to give your money to people that hate you and don't support your values. | ||
| There are companies out there, quality products, quality services, that are an alternative. | ||
| And that you can go and make a choice of where you want to go. | ||
| And, and this is, Seifert came up with it, every day you make a decision, you don't have to wait every two years to vote for Congress or your house. | ||
| of representatives, rep, or a senator, or every four years for president. | ||
| You make those decisions every day. | ||
| Tell me how this show, we got Public Square Live is gonna premiere tonight at 8 p.m. | ||
| Eastern Daylight Time, right here on Real America's Voice. | ||
| We'll replay tomorrow at 9 p.m. | ||
| Eastern Daylight Time. | ||
| Tell me why you're doing this, ma'am. | ||
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Well, I just love supporting the parallel economy, and I am such a Trump supporter and a conservative. | |
| And you see these brands that are donating to get women abortions, like Starbucks. | ||
| And you say, why am I continuing to give my money to people who hate me? | ||
| And then you go on public square, you just download the app or go on the website, and you see five million coffee companies. | ||
| Like, there's one called Seven Weeks, because that's when you can hear a heartbeat and see a heartbeat. | ||
| And they fund pregnancy centers. | ||
| Why wouldn't you want to give your money to a company like that? | ||
| That's perfect. | ||
| So we really want to let people know out there who feel overwhelmed. | ||
| They don't know what to do. | ||
| They don't know how to start. | ||
| This is the perfect place to start. | ||
| And Public Square has everything you could ever need from a curling iron to a coffee mug. | ||
| There's everything under the sun. | ||
| And the good news, you're buying from people that feel the exact same way that you do. | ||
| And oftentimes these products are made in America. | ||
| All natural products. | ||
| So you're really getting something better. | ||
| Made by a small business owner and someone who shares your values. | ||
| It's a win-win for literally everyone. | ||
| And yes, for the month of May, we're doing 30 products to swap. | ||
| So household items you're using literally every day, you can just watch the show and you can go on our social channels and see, what am I going to swap today? | ||
| From dishwasher detergent to a toothbrush, literally everything is there. | ||
| You're going to find something that you like and you're going to make yourself feel a heck of a lot better because these people don't hate you. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Erin, social media, where do people follow you? | ||
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I'm Erin M. Elmore on Instagram and Erin Elmore on X and download the Public Square app if you don't already have it. | |
| They also have small businesses on there in various communities like a flower shop or someone who can make you a cake or a dog walker or a veterinarian. | ||
| Those people that share your values Why give your business to your hairdresser that literally is cutting your hair and hates you, when you can go on there and find someone who's a MAGA person and a Trump supporter? | ||
| It's all around a better way to live. | ||
| I would have dinner with a liberal. | ||
| Why would I buy services from them? | ||
| Why would I buy products from them? | ||
| Man, you are hardcore. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Erin Elmore, your MAGA. | ||
| It's hardcore. | ||
| Couldn't think of a better, couldn't think of a better, a better person to, a better person to chair it, to host it. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| We'll be looking at eight o'clock tonight and then nine o'clock tomorrow, right here on Real America's Voice. | ||
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And show business. | |
| I appreciate you. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| We've got some special guests. | ||
| I'm going to get them in, get my producers, get them in the studio so we can roll. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, while we're doing that, talk to me about another breaking story. | ||
| Germany's dropping the age of how they're conscripting people. | ||
| How they're conscripting people. | ||
| This is all inextricably linked with Harkiv. | ||
| It's all inextricably linked with the money that we relied about when it went in there. | ||
| Take it away, sir. | ||
| So this is a proposal that has been floated by Boris Pistorius, the German defence minister. | ||
| And interesting to note this, he's actually floated this during his visit to Washington D.C. | ||
| this week, so there's no surprises on who's been leaning on him. | ||
| And he's come out with this expression, I'm convinced that Germany needs a form of military conscription. | ||
| Well, if they do one of the proposals that he's talking about, which is reintroducing conscription for all 18-year-olds. | ||
| That will require a change to the constitution. | ||
| The conscription was so unpopular in Germany, it was banned in a return in 2011. | ||
| Interestingly, Steve, is this observation Because the justification is that it's in the face of Russian military aggression, this great necessity. | ||
| And you have to stop and say, well, hang on, let's just look at the reality of Russia, as we pointed out before, has a huge geographical expanse, has a GDP less than the state of New York and a per capita GDP, which is less than Costa Rica. | ||
| Is there any chance Russia is going to invade all the way down Exactly. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| I spent eight years of my life doing that. | ||
| Back in the days, in the early 80s, President Reagan, they could come across a North German plane with the Red Army. | ||
| It's not happening now. | ||
| Couldn't go to Poland. | ||
| Couldn't go to Germany. | ||
| Couldn't go to France. | ||
| Not going to be a second von Malky-Schlieflin plan. | ||
| It's not going to be the Marne. | ||
| Not going to be Verdun. | ||
| Hang on, Ben, in Rome. | ||
| We're going to come right back to you about Ukraine. | ||
| Very special guest. | ||
| One, you don't know who's going to wander in here in Palm Beach. | ||
| Don Junior. | ||
| God, you're a ripped brother. | ||
| Don Junior. | ||
| Hold up. | ||
| Don Junior limps in here. | ||
| What is going on, man? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Here's meniscus. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| You tore the meniscus? | ||
| Yeah, well, I guess it was torn apparently. | ||
| It's one of those hunting things you're jumping around chasing something? | ||
| Yeah, I was literally walking. | ||
| I wish it was a better story. | ||
| Like, I wish it was a better story. | ||
| I was walking and I just, I felt the pop. | ||
| No way. | ||
| A buddy of mine's a top surgeon and he's... Hold it, you're just walking. | ||
| Not you, because you're jumping out of trees and hunting. | ||
| I was hunting, but I was literally just walking. | ||
| It wasn't doing anything stupid. | ||
| Uh, pops, uh... | ||
| You know, I guess a plica and meniscus. | ||
| Did you hear the pop? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you went down? | ||
| I didn't go down, but like it was unusual pain. | ||
| I'm usually pretty good at dealing with that. | ||
| I've been dealing with knee pain my whole life. | ||
| Went to my buddy who's a surgeon for knees. | ||
| He's like, uh, yeah, you got it. | ||
| But apparently it's been like, it was like 20 years ago and it just finally, it finally gave. | ||
| So, you know, we're dealing with it. | ||
| But, uh, so how many days you had a surgery? | ||
| Uh, about 30, 40 hours. | ||
| Are you supposed to walk right away? | ||
| Is that get up? | ||
| I can wait. | ||
| I have crutches, but I'm not sure no one wore them in crutches. | ||
| I'm not giving them the visual. | ||
| No pain. | ||
| You've just come back. | ||
| In fact, one of the reasons you're such a hero, you didn't want to use the crutches where you just came from. | ||
| You and Sergio are just back, and I want to make a very special announcement of what you guys did today. | ||
| Yeah, we went down to visit our good friend Peter Navarro, who's serving four months in federal penitentiary for the presidential immunity case. | ||
| I mean, he still has an appeal out there, and yet our system of government will jail their opponents before you actually let it play out. | ||
| It's a misdemeanor. | ||
| Well, and that's the craziest thing, and talking to Peter down there, and I think they're treating him well on campus. | ||
| Right, but the stuff coming from D.C. | ||
| is disgusting. | ||
| He's the only person in there who's in there for a misdemeanor, and he's the only person who's not getting any kind of early release. | ||
| No early release. | ||
| You know, for being good or whatever it may be. | ||
| Everyone else gets out early for felonies. | ||
| The guy in there, the only person in the entire prison in there for a misdemeanor has to serve the full term. | ||
| But that has nothing to do with the local prison officials or anything like that. | ||
| That's purely DOJ and Biden White House and all that. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| I think they're working with what they have. | ||
| I think Biden's mismanaged everything like he has everything else. | ||
| So there's issues, but I think they're treating him fairly down there, which is at least good to see. | ||
| What inspired you guys to go down? | ||
| Honestly, we have to support our fighters. | ||
| Ironically, we were calling you to check in. | ||
| Speaking of which, you know, we were calling you to sort of check in. | ||
| You're like, hey, we're live. | ||
| What are we doing now? | ||
| No, I get a call from these guys. | ||
| Hey, you're live just where I go. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| We're coming up. | ||
| Where have you been? | ||
| Oh, we just saw Peter down in... | ||
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And he had a very special message for you and all your audience. | |
| I mean, he appreciated all the letters. | ||
| He's gotten thousands of letters, and people say that you've mentioned him, you talk about him, you keep him in the news. | ||
| It really motivates him to hear from so many great Americans and so many patriots. | ||
| Well, one of the things people are so excited about is the book, The New MAGA Deal. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| from winning team publishing. If you want to know President Trump's economic plan, | ||
| they got so many guys that come on the show all the time, right? You got the Dave Brads, | ||
| you got the Dave Walsh. In fact, we were supposed to have Dave Walsh today. We're | ||
| going to reschedule him for Monday, but people are waiting for that. So is he in good spirits? | ||
| He is. Honestly, he was, you know, he's talking about, soon as I'm out, this is how we hit the campaign trail. | ||
| I mean, this guy is just a patriot. | ||
| I mean, he's in prison for nonsense. | ||
| They're going after him differently than they would anyone else. | ||
| They're sending a message, as they are with you, Steve. | ||
| They're trying to discourage anyone who will actually fight. | ||
| Sit in your corner, don't misbehave, and you'll be left alone. | ||
| And so whether it's Trump, whether it's you, whether it's Peter, they're going after those guys. | ||
| So that was a big part of it, like, hey, we just got to We got to show up. | ||
| We got to support these fighters. | ||
| We got to make sure. | ||
| Yeah, the letters were amazing. | ||
| I mean, he's super psyched about that. | ||
| And so we want everybody, and Grace and Mo will put up how you get the letters to him. | ||
| You can also email him if you go into official system to get email. | ||
| Is he more ripped than you now? | ||
| Peter's always been jacked. | ||
| I literally said, I was like, you look like De Niro in Cape Fear. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You know, I pride myself on trying to, you know, maintain, you know, being strong and, you know, for, whether it's the zombie apocalypse or whatever, you know, disease X may launch next, you know, I want to make sure I can kick ass in that, in that environment, but, uh, Peter, you know, he had the slick back hair, jacked, you know. | ||
| He's smaller, Jack, but he's in good shape right now. | ||
| I think the food probably sucks, and so he hasn't been enjoying that as much, but he looked good. | ||
| He's in good spirits and really talking about fighting and what's next. | ||
| That's why the book is so important, The New Maggie Deal. | ||
| Remember, he wrote this, took a year and got the best guys, and then ran it by your dad and said, hey, this is what you've been telling me. | ||
| What he did is took the speeches Turn it into policy. | ||
| Got the best guys to talk about these different verticals. | ||
| Because when people say, well, what does MAGA stand for? | ||
| I say, just listen to Trump's speeches. | ||
| Now you've actually got it in a book form. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he delineates all of those things. | ||
| And the things, honestly, that we also know now with hindsight, that we didn't know going in as like a new politician, you know, those you can trust, the things that, you know, how to work within that system. | ||
| And I think that's why the swamp is so, so much more viscerally against Trump this time. | ||
| Because they understand, with that insider knowledge, who the snakes are, who are the people that are going to put up every roadblock, you know, carving them out. | ||
| That's the only role I want. | ||
| I just want to be the blocking guy, you know, in the transition team. | ||
| Be like, no, you're a scumbag. | ||
| We're going to make you the viceroy. | ||
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And Steve, let's not forget, you wrote the foreword. | |
| Yes. | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| When he came to me with the concept, I said, this is exactly what we need. | ||
| We started today, actually, at the Oxford Union with this young man, browbeating Nancy Pelosi on populism. | ||
| And I mean, it was just saying, hey, the Democratic Party has become the party of the global elites, right? | ||
| But you see, young people are picking up this message. | ||
| His defense of President Trump and President Trump's policies We're just absolutely amazing. | ||
| Can you guys hang for another segment? | ||
| We got to talk about your dad. | ||
| I mean, it is unbelievable. | ||
| You know, Biden has shifted the strategy totally because he doesn't talk about the 81 million votes. | ||
| You know, so you never hear about that. | ||
| Well, I still haven't found any of them. | ||
| I mean, I travel the country more than most, probably maybe more than anyone. | ||
| I don't know that I've ever actually seen a Biden sign. | ||
| 81 million seems like a lot of people to have zero enthusiasm a couple years later. | ||
| But to see your father, to see your father every day in that trial come out into that bullpen, and yesterday we played all 10 minutes. | ||
| We actually intercut it with some other things that were going on because it was so powerful. | ||
| So we played all 10 minutes yesterday. | ||
| Oh, we do the break? | ||
| Oh, good. | ||
| So we just do it. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| We're actually going to skip the break. | ||
| Skip the break. | ||
| Even better. | ||
| OK, talk about your dad. | ||
| He goes right up. | ||
| and puts his toes right on the line of the unconstitutional gag order. | ||
| Well yeah, it was sort of funny watching because he's reading what other people wrote, right? | ||
| So he's not saying it's a rip-off. | ||
| He's like, well these people... | ||
| But the whole thing is a farce, Steve. | ||
| I mean, we're living in America in 2024 and we're seeing the Stalinistic show trials. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| I mean, remember, Stormy Daniels is a very relevant witness is to basically an accounting error trial, and yet Mark Pomerantz, the former prosecutor who chose not to do this, who wrote a book about it, who was involved in this DA's office with this very DA and the prior, who was brought in especially to try this case and decided not to, he's not a relevant witness, according to this judge. | ||
| Not because he's not a relevant witness, but because it is a setup. | ||
| The entire thing is there. | ||
| Stormy Daniels has nothing to do with any of this. | ||
| What she is there to do, she was there to try to embarrass Trump on a world stage. | ||
| Smear your father. | ||
| Smear him. | ||
| I thought that was interesting about yesterday with what I was seeing with the Madeline Westerquart testimony where she's like, he was a great boss and the relationship with him and Melania is so strong and they waved to each other. | ||
| Then they drop the getaway. | ||
| This isn't what we expected. | ||
| We want, you know, we need to paint him as though he is the devil and subhuman. | ||
| And they've been trying to do that. | ||
| And the media won't talk about these things, just like they won't talk about the corruption. | ||
| They won't talk about the flaws. | ||
| They won't talk about whether it's the judge's daughter, in this case, making millions or the judge being a Biden donor or. | ||
| Danny Willis or any of these other people, the flagrant acts that would get them not | ||
| just disqualified, but in most cases disbarred and or prosecuted. | ||
| Our mainstream media doesn't even talk about these. | ||
| In each one of the cases, it's not like there's one that's just like brought with graft and | ||
| BS. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| All of them have things that in any way, shape or form would be totally disqualified. | ||
| You've had a federal judge has had to step in because she hasn't gotten support from | ||
| She's had to step in and basically say, on June 27th, 28th, 29th, I'm putting Jack Smith on trial. | ||
| I want to see exactly what the coordination was here. | ||
| I'm tired of the double talk. | ||
| You've had an appellate court in Georgia, because the Georgia Senate, which was their new right, they had to step in on an ongoing criminal trial, which never happens, and say, full stop. | ||
| Fannie Willis is going to come and testify. | ||
| We're going to get into this and see what exactly goes on, right? | ||
| You've had the Supreme Court. | ||
| Now, 9-0 on this bogus thing of taking them off the ballot from Colorado, which they took the whole J6 as just the thing. | ||
| You've had the Fisher case, which will be decided about the bogus charges against him, right, of stopping a government proceeding. | ||
| And now you've got, which they mocked us and laughed at us for the first time, Mike Davis, brought up about immunity. | ||
| You know, Andrew Weissman every night on TV, the mocking, this could be done in two Cohen selling merchandise and pushing a reality TV show. | ||
| You know, Cassidy Hutchinson, remember he was, Donald Trump, he was going to steal the beast. | ||
| He actually beat the hell, and by the way, if he had done this and it was real, I'd be like, I'm probably more likely to vote for him. | ||
| You're saying a 75-year-old guy was able to wrestle the beast from the backseat away from two heavily armed and fit Secret Service guys? | ||
| I'm like, that's the guy I want running the country. | ||
| That's the guy who's going to take on Putin. | ||
| That's the NFT I want to do. | ||
| That is the guy. | ||
| But you know, I'm like, probably didn't happen. | ||
| And of course it didn't. | ||
| That didn't stop her from giving sworn testimony before the January 6th committee, yet another committee that I did 10 hours in front of. | ||
| Not because no cross-examination, couldn't see it in advance, it wasn't a legitimate committee, right? | ||
| This is the problem. | ||
| But they get what they want out of it. | ||
| And then two years later you find out, oh, that was all a lie. | ||
| Like we now know it's all a lie. | ||
| Like all the conspiracy theories that were lies that turned out to be true, like 100% of them. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| They get what they want at the time. | ||
| They get the soundbite they need to perpetuate the narrative. | ||
| And then when we find out it's nonsense two years later, it doesn't matter, it's too late and there's no accountability. | ||
| Here was a huge tell last night with all the Stormy Daners and the end of her testimony and all, you know, because CNN, MSNBC covers this, this is how they go one side. | ||
| CNN last night went all three hours in primetime on the Northern Lights or whatever this new thing is. | ||
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By the way, it's not really a new thing, it's sort of as old as time. | |
| It came a little further south than normal, but I don't understand. | ||
| But that's what they're covering. | ||
| I think the American people have totally lost interest in this trial, in the details of it. | ||
| Well, I think they also have alternatives, right? | ||
| Whether it's what you're doing here, what I do with Rumble, you're on there too. | ||
| There are other places they're getting it. | ||
| You see the ratings. | ||
| Even conservative media, which is, let's call it conservative light. | ||
| Right. | ||
| At best, I don't watch any of that anymore because there's other places I can actually get that. | ||
| So even them, in an election cycle where you typically have ratings through the roof, they're down 30% year over year because people have figured out that they've been lied to even by the ones they think are on their side. | ||
| And so they've just gone elsewhere for their news. | ||
| And I think as a result, you have a populace that's far more informed, that knows what's going on, but more importantly, that thinks beyond what they're being told. | ||
| They see what's being told, they see the message, they look for the alternative, and they're actually questioning all of it now, which is where we need it to be. | ||
| Peter gets out around the time of the convention. | ||
| Biden has shifted his strategy now. | ||
| They've dropped Bidenomics. | ||
| They've dropped making a case for his re-election. | ||
| It's now all trying to make a referendum on Trump. | ||
| Your ideas about strategy, what should we be doing here, how do we drive forward? | ||
| He gets out, you've got the convention, that's when he fires the football. | ||
| Please make it a referendum about Trump, because this is the one election cycle where you've actually had life under both people who are going to likely end up being on the ballots, right? | ||
| You have four years under Trump. | ||
| You will have had four years under Biden by the time you get to election day. | ||
| When were you better off? | ||
| Across the board. | ||
| And I don't just mean financially. | ||
| That one's a no-brainer. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| I'm the son of a rich guy. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| If I'm pissed off when I take my kids to get, you know, a snack or fast food... If I have sticker shock, the world has sticker shock. | ||
| But then you add in the other component. | ||
| The world. | ||
| You see what's going on on our college campuses, where people are actively rooting for a terrorist organization. | ||
| Not for the peaceful existence of a Palestinian people, whatever that may mean. | ||
| But literally rooting for people who are murderers and rapists. | ||
| That's happening in America. | ||
| You then see what's going on in Israel. | ||
| You see what's going on in Russia and Ukraine. | ||
| You see the endless money and sums that, you know, we can't, you know, Peter, they haven't fixed the coffee machine in prison in months because there's no money for that. | ||
| There's inmates there that are Americans. | ||
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He's frustrated by how much money is being wasted. | |
| The thermostat doesn't work. | ||
| So they're freezing in there with a blanket this thin. | ||
| A $10 thermostat, they can't fix it. | ||
| So that's your taxpayer money. | ||
| And there's guys with medication that can't get their medication. | ||
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Correct. | |
| But we have $160 billion to send to Ukraine for their pensions, for this. | ||
| You know, there's the kickback to big war. | ||
| We understand that. | ||
| There's no money in peace. | ||
| But it's that sort of frustration. | ||
| We have more money than God for everyone else other than American citizens. | ||
| Whether they're incarcerated or not, it doesn't matter. | ||
| They're still American citizens, and those people are always being put last. | ||
| What message should we send to Peter? | ||
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He loves hearing from everybody. | |
| I mean, he was overwhelmed. | ||
| He said the first day, the first week that he was there, the guard came over and says, bring a big bag. | ||
| We got a lot of mail for you. | ||
| And I mean, literally thousands of pieces. | ||
| So he was very touched by that. | ||
| And a lot of them mentioned War Room, mentioned you. | ||
| So keep it up. | ||
| What about the crew that's in there? | ||
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It's funny you mentioned that people have gone to him with their problems, asking him to go to the warden with that. | |
| I mean, for him to represent them. | ||
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Correct. | |
| Can you help with this? | ||
| Can you help with that? | ||
| He's turning into the big boss. | ||
| I think he's also very realistic. | ||
| Like, hey man, there are some, you know, what a wise man once worded as, you know, bad hombres in there as well. | ||
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It's still present. | |
| It's federal penitentiary. | ||
| This is not child's play. | ||
| This is not a summer camp. | ||
| What is it like when you go in? | ||
| What was the environment? | ||
| Were you able to talk to them? | ||
| Yeah, we were able to talk to them. | ||
| I think they probably didn't necessarily want me. | ||
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They give private rooms to several people, not just us. | |
| And you want to give a thank you for the people that... 100% on it, yes. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| All the stuff that's coming is DOJ and White House on this thing about... It's all D.C. | ||
| based. | ||
| The people down there couldn't have been nicer, courteous, accommodating, everything like that. | ||
| You know, we got their... | ||
| you know, real early that's, you know, played by the rules and do, you know, whatever they say. But | ||
| we just felt we had to do it. He's such a good guy, someone who truly fought | ||
| for all of the America first things we believe in. And he's the guy that took on, you know, | ||
| came up with the policies to take on China on trade, which is something we needed to do for | ||
| decades. And my father wanted, he's the guy that orchestrated that. And he's paying the price for | ||
| Four years of peace and prosperity, which your father had in 2019 before he got hit by the bioweapon, was one of the greatest years in the history of this country for working people. | ||
| Peace and prosperity. | ||
| Peter is also, when your dad was sitting there going, hey, I'm going to close this border. | ||
| I'm tired of the games. | ||
| I'm tired of the games of big business, Chamber of Commerce, the Uniparty, but I'm also tired of the games in Mexico. | ||
| Your father turned to Peter and Peter said, I think I got an idea. | ||
| Let's do the tariffs. | ||
| Let's put the high tariffs on it. | ||
| It brought him to the table. | ||
| Next thing you know, You had the safest, securest border you've ever had. | ||
| Got it done. | ||
| I mean, so, you know, for us, it's about supporting those guys. | ||
| Those guys need it. | ||
| Those guys are the guys going to be targeted, and we got to make sure that other people don't fall for what the government wants, which is... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| We'll sit back. | ||
| We'll be kind of MAGA, really light. | ||
| We won't really do much. | ||
| We'll tell people what they want to hear, but we won't actually rock the boat in D.C. | ||
| We need the people that will rock the boat. | ||
| We'll need the people that will actually burn it down, because it needs to be burned down. | ||
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And it takes patriots like him. | |
| I mean, when you see him behind those bars, when you go through security, it makes it real. | ||
| Don't kid yourself. | ||
| They want to put all of you away. | ||
| Oh no, 100%. | ||
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So this makes it real. | |
| Including President Trump. |
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