May 7, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| It's Tuesday, 7 May, Year of the Lord 2024. | ||
| We are live from the magnificent Palm Beach studio of Real America's Voice, following the morning show. | ||
| It's absolutely incredible. | ||
| Great crew. | ||
| Of course, we've got our core team out in Denver, Real America's Voice, producing the show with producer Cameron. | ||
| The entire crack crew. | ||
| Dr. Monica Crowley graciously joins us here for the second hour. | ||
| Tonight I'll be back at 5 and then at 6 our own Natalie Winter is going to ride shotgun with me. | ||
| We're going to have Mike Davis, hopefully Kash Patel, maybe Raheem in a second hit today. | ||
| We're very honored. | ||
| By the way, MTG, as you know, she's been torn in a million different directions on this motion to vacate. | ||
| She's going to join us, I think, by phone as soon as we can get her. | ||
| But we've got Jim Rickards. | ||
| Jim, just your thoughts. | ||
| You've become an audience favorite in your analysis of the global economy macro, particularly geopolitics. | ||
| What about this attempted, or maybe not attempted, at least rumored enough That the Saudi armed forces and intelligence services had to put out an official denial that there was an assassination attempt on MBS last night in which, first reports I heard, up to 10 security guards were killed or injured in the process. | ||
| What would happen geopolitically given that, I think Netanyahu's calling their bluff and heading into Rafa. | ||
| What do you think geopolitically would happen to the world right now? | ||
| The author of Strategic Intelligence, the great monthly newsletter, sir. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Well, the first rule of intelligence analysis is if a government is denying something, it's probably true. | ||
| Not automatically, but the good chance that there was some kind of mini-rebellion, attempted assassination, etc. | ||
| Bear in mind that King Faisal was assassinated in the, I believe, the 1970s, but some time ago. | ||
| But there was an assassination of a king not all that long ago. | ||
| The Saudi Arabian monarchy is very inherently unstable. | ||
| Every king so far, when I say so far, I'm going back to the 1930s, was, well, there's Abdul Abin Saud, who was the founder of the kingdom. | ||
| But every king since then has been one of his sons. | ||
| And I don't know exactly how many sons he had, but 30 or 40, maybe more. | ||
| So you've got this huge crowd of brothers. | ||
| But they're all, a lot of them are half brothers, depending on the wife, because they can have, they have polygamy. | ||
| So, so, but there are certain, there are certain groups of four or five or six who had the same mother. | ||
| So they sort of, there are some full brothers, but then a whole bunch of half brothers. | ||
| So they have their own cliques inside this, uh, uh, you know, royal family. | ||
| So the reason I'm explaining this is that this is not like a linear succession. | ||
| This has been brother to brother to brother, not father to son as in the, uh, say the British royal family. | ||
| And, um, the, there are cliques, uh, among these brothers. | ||
| So, so MBS is the first, he's the crown prince. | ||
| He's not the king, but he's effectively the ruler because his father is not, you know, kind of exerting that much power. | ||
| He is the first member of the third generation. | ||
| He is not one of the brothers. | ||
| He is a grandson of Abdul bin Salman. | ||
| But there are other brothers, so why him? | ||
| What about my son, etc.? | ||
| So there's a potential rival member. | ||
| MBS basically rounded up a large group of the royal family and a lot of the Saudi oligarchs, maybe not royals, but extremely rich, took him to the Ritz Hotel and hanged him | ||
| by their feet and kind of beat them until they gave up between a third and a half of their | ||
| wealth. | ||
| So that was for openers. | ||
| He was just sort of saying, I'm the guy and this is what you're in for if you don't fall | ||
| into line. | ||
| So the jealousy is huge. | ||
| If there is an assassination or even an attempted assassination, there's going to be a reprisal. | ||
| It's very unstable. | ||
| His other half-brother, I think, was partially blown up by a terrorist attack. | ||
| Jim, just hang on for one second. | ||
| We finally tracked down MTG. | ||
| Congressman Green, of course, all the shows, all the morning shows, all the political shows are focused on the timing of your motion to vacate. | ||
| Of course, you had a two-hour meeting, I think, with Johnson yesterday, which I don't think You know, it's your struggle session, but I don't think it shows particularly well on his position when he's got to spend two hours with a rebel like yourself. | ||
| Can you give us an update of what's going on? | ||
| Yes, absolutely Steve and thank you for having me on the show today. | ||
| After I left the meeting yesterday, I went out to the press and I said I really don't have any comments to give. | ||
| We had a long discussion and I expressed my resolve, how I've been patient and I have been. | ||
| And the American people have been patient. | ||
| They voted and gave Republicans the majority in 2022 for a reason, because they are fed up with the destructive Democrat agenda. | ||
| But here's the reality. | ||
| You know, I didn't give my demands out publicly, but somehow they've gotten leaked all over the press today. | ||
| went in simply asking for four simple things. | ||
| The easiest one that we can ask from our Republican elected speaker is that he obey the Hastert | ||
| rule, which means no bills are brought to the floor unless the majority of the majority, | ||
| which is the majority of Republicans, support it. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
| That goes to my next request. | ||
| No more funding for Ukraine. | ||
| No funding for Ukraine. | ||
| Period. | ||
| And had he obeyed the Hastert rule, guess what? | ||
| $61 billion would not have gone to Ukraine. | ||
| There needs to be peace. | ||
| There needs to be peace talks in Ukraine. | ||
| This needs to stop. | ||
| Over 70% of Americans do not support funding the Ukraine war. | ||
| And if Speaker Johnson had obeyed the majority of majority of Republicans, guess what? | ||
| That wouldn't have happened. | ||
| So there, my second request is simple and it's already supported by the conference. | ||
| My third request is very serious and this is my number one request. | ||
| We are fed up with the weaponized government, the weaponized Department of Justice that is being used as Joe Biden's campaign arm. | ||
| We saw special counsel Robert Mueller. | ||
| We saw that witch hunt against President Trump and the lies of Russian collusion. | ||
| And now we've seen it again with Jack Smith, who with the FBI tampering with evidence | ||
| and completely setting the stage for a fake trial and fake prosecution against President Trump. | ||
| And now the American people are being forced to pay for the Department of Justice | ||
| and the special counsel, Jack Smith. | ||
| I want it ended. | ||
| I want the entire special counsel defunding and I want it to end. | ||
| And I think our Republican speaker can make that happen. | ||
| And I think our Republican conference can make that happen because Donald Trump is our Republican presidential nominee. | ||
| You know, the press and the Democrats didn't want Hunter Biden's laptop out when Joe Biden was the presidential nominee and he was running for president. | ||
| And so I think it's an easy case to make. | ||
| No more fake trials. | ||
| No more witch hunts. | ||
| Stop Jack Smith prosecution. | ||
| Stop all funding to the Department of Justice that is pursuing political prosecutions against President Trump. | ||
| That's the third one. | ||
| The fourth one is this, Steve, and I think this is very reasonable. | ||
| We're going to be doing 12 separate appropriation bills and I think that's the right thing to do. | ||
| I fully support that and that is how it should be done in Congress. | ||
| Now, if Speaker Johnson can't get those bills passed with Chuck Schumer, Um, we aren't going to have an omnibus that Chuck Schumer wrote rammed down our throat. | ||
| We are not going to do that again. | ||
| We were only given one page to read over 1,000, one day to read over 1,000 pages and we were, we were handcuffed and not allowed to give any amendments to that. | ||
| That will never happen again. | ||
| That will not be tolerated in our Republican conference. | ||
| Here's what I want. | ||
| If we don't get our 12 separate appropriation bills, we'll have to do a 1% cut to spending or we won't do anything at all. | ||
| Okay, so let me just summarize. | ||
| You've got to have the Hastert rule, majority-majority, but you've asked for no funding of Ukraine, total shutdown of the special counsel and everything related to Jack Smith, and I think that would roll through Colangelo and what's happening in New York. | ||
| And you're basically saying you've got to commit now to shut the government down at midnight on 30 September of this year, you know, 30 days before an election. | ||
| So the reason your demands were out He leaked them immediately to show, oh, she's so crazy. | ||
| Here's what she's asking for. | ||
| Understanding he'll never be able to give up that to you because that would make you essentially speaker and not Hakeem Jeffries. | ||
| What day are we going to call? | ||
| What day are we calling the vote? | ||
| So just just so I can move the ball forward, because I agree with all these and I get about 20 others, including he's got to deny what he what he's going to unwind and go back to the pre McCarthy days. | ||
| Even Kevin McCarthy gave us the accountability and the and the transparency. | ||
| He told the donors Sunday night he's going to undo that. | ||
| So given this, and if he does this, then you're the speaker. | ||
| If he goes on the motion to vacate, Hakeem Jeffries told us in 60 minutes he's the speaker. | ||
| What day, what hour do you plan now to call the motion to vacate? | ||
| Well, Steve, you're nailing the subject to the wall and this is what War Room and this is what people all over the country are screaming for. | ||
| They want to see this vote because this vote will expose the Uniparty. | ||
| I walked into Johnson's office yesterday and I'm going back at 1230 with very simple demands. | ||
| The easiest, easiest things to ask for. | ||
| And I want to hear his answer today at 1230, Steve, because that will really tell us. | ||
| Is it Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi who came out and endorsed Mike Johnson? | ||
| Are they running our Republican-controlled House of Representatives? | ||
| Or are we going to pull it back and go back to Republican control with the majority of the majority? | ||
| Are we actually going to stand up and fight for President Trump this time? | ||
| Because Republicans didn't do it last time, Steve. | ||
| And we all know it. | ||
| And our voters and people across the country are so sick and tired of Republicans in Washington constantly caving to the pressure and never standing up for the one man that Republican voters really want to vote for. | ||
| Because Republican voters are ready to vote for Trump. | ||
| Oh yeah, they're coming out and they're coming out big. | ||
| But they're going to skip over those rhino names under the House of Representatives on their ballot because they're fed up with them. | ||
| What I'm demanding is simple. | ||
| We need to act like Republicans. | ||
| We need to demand control and we need to stop the government from being used for politics. | ||
| This isn't hard. | ||
| This is not complicated and we'll see how that meeting goes at 1230. | ||
| I have high expectations and they have to be met in full. | ||
| There is no middle ground. | ||
| There is no compromise and Steve will see what he comes out with. | ||
| Real quickly, the most pressure you're getting is from other members on the Republican side that don't want to have to actually record a vote in this. | ||
| Am I incorrect on that? | ||
| Is that the pressure you're getting is, Marjorie, don't do this because I don't want to have to vote on this. | ||
| Is that where the pressure is coming from your colleagues? | ||
| No, Steve, it's far nastier. | ||
| It's far nastier. | ||
| You wouldn't believe what's being talked about. | ||
| Oh, we're going to get back at her. | ||
| She's going to lose committee assignments next Congress. | ||
| She'll get primary. | ||
| We're going to come after her. | ||
| This is going to be nasty. | ||
| That's the little chitter-chatter going around Washington, D.C. | ||
| right now. | ||
| That's the chitter-chatter going on in the inner circles that is trying to divide me away from President Trump. | ||
| You know, I fight for President Trump harder in Washington, D.C. | ||
| than anybody. | ||
| But everybody right now is trying to pretend like there's a problem between us. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you right now, there is not. | ||
| I'm just not someone that runs around and talks about my conversations with him. | ||
| I don't speak for President Trump and what he has to say. | ||
| But I'll tell you right now, there's a lot of people right now that are planning big paybacks at me for actually demanding that the Republican I elected for Speaker of the House act like a Republican. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you, I'm going to make sure this all stays transparent, Steve. | ||
| I'm going to make sure that everybody knows every single thing about it. | ||
| And I'll tell you right now, I am not worried about getting kicked off committees. | ||
| They did that to me before and I raised three and a half million dollars and I'll do it again, probably even more. | ||
| You had a pretty good first year. | ||
| First term, as I remember. | ||
| You kicked off everything. | ||
| Congressman Green, people want to follow this moment by moment. | ||
| Where do they go, ma'am? | ||
| Just follow my social media, RepMTG. | ||
| I'm on all the social media. | ||
| So just keep following. | ||
| Steve, I know you'll keep everybody updated. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Jim, I tell you what, what we're going to do is I'm going to take a break. | ||
| We're going to have Jim Rickards is going to rejoin us. | ||
| Monica Crowley's here. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong, did Netanyahu's government not call people's bluff of moving into Rafa? | ||
| They got to do it, right? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They knew they had to do it all along and they said nothing and no one is going to stop us. | ||
| Are you pretty shocked, given that the United States for years had a policy of not allowing the Soviet Union to get a base there, and we had such a well-thought-to plan in the Middle East, that a U.S. | ||
| government, Biden's government, that's supported by so many liberal Jewish people, actually cut off arms at the very moment when Israel needs them most, cut off weapons to them on the eve of this It is absolutely disgraceful that this president throws one of our most important allies, and certainly our key ally in the region, under the bus because they need to win Michigan. | ||
| That is a disgrace. | ||
| Do you think that comes down to that count? | ||
| Oh, I think it is that cynical, and I think it is that obvious. | ||
| And you agree that you've got to go finish this job. | ||
| If you're going to go through hell, go through quickly and you've got to get this job done. | ||
| And honestly, this is Bibi, who's a big Israeli war hero. | ||
| This is his swan song. | ||
| He's got to ensure the survival of the state of Israel. | ||
| Rickards and Monica Crowley next. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| Okay, welcome back, Jim Rickards, Monica Crowley. | ||
| In fact, let's go, you've got some thoughts about the assassination of the royal family and the Persians. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, we started talking about the Abraham Accords, and that was a tremendous historic achievement on the part of President Trump, beginning to bring real peace to the Middle East. | ||
| Saudi Arabia, of course, was the biggest and remains the biggest piece to this puzzle. | ||
| They are the biggest of them all. | ||
| And President Trump and his team were very close to convincing the Saudis to be a party to the Abraham Accords, which would have been absolutely shattering in terms of bringing peace to the region and, frankly, to the world. | ||
| The Iranians cannot have that. | ||
| They cannot have increasing isolation of them in the international community, stopping their nuclear weapons program, etc. | ||
| So this whole rumor, and to Jim's point, you know, when the government comes out and denies it, you know it's true. | ||
| This shows that the Iranians are increasingly desperate to try to prevent the inexorable march toward increasing peace in the Middle East. | ||
| That's why they got Hamas to act and blow up the region, stop Saudi Arabia from making peace with Israel. | ||
| At the end of the day, because you take the broader scale, I mean, this is really, we're the inheritors of Rome. | ||
| We're the Judeo-Christian West. | ||
| Athens, Jerusalem, and Rome. | ||
| And you've got the Persians. | ||
| This really hasn't changed in 3,000 years. | ||
| I mean, it's the same basic standoff. | ||
| Because when you talk to the Iranians and the Persians, they consider MBZ, they consider the UAE, the Gulf Emirates, the Saudis, Bedouins. | ||
| They say, hey look, these guys never create anything in their lives. | ||
| They're around because they found oil. | ||
| We're an ancient civilization. | ||
| We've been at war against the West. | ||
| Islam's just a thing that came in the last, you know, couple hundred years. | ||
| This is a war of two different outlooks on life, and we're going to outlast the West, sir? | ||
| Well, that's right. | ||
| I mean, Rome and Persia, in different forms, in different dynasties, kind of fought to a standstill. | ||
| You know, they fought each other. | ||
| And before that, Alexander the Great took the place over. | ||
| But there came a time when they just had the modus vivendi. | ||
| They just said, all right, you've got your empire. | ||
| We have ours. | ||
| We're not going to fight anymore. | ||
| But unfortunately, Iran or Persia is on the march. | ||
| By the way, quick footnote, Steve, on MTG. | ||
| I agree with four of her four points. | ||
| When you vote for aid for Ukraine, You're voting to kill Ukrainians. | ||
| That's all you're doing. | ||
| The war is not over, but the outcome is over. | ||
| The Russians are going to win, that's very clear. | ||
| So all you're doing is you're killing Ukrainian men, and they're going to start drafting women, so you'll be killing Ukrainian women at the same time. | ||
| So that's, of all her points, I thought that was one of the most important. | ||
| Hold on, hang on, hang on, because we're gonna break some news here. | ||
| Jim Rickards, who's the still point in a turning world, Mr. Stability, looking, you got a new book I want to talk about, but you're saying you actually, MTG's supposed to be so far radical, a rebel, they call us a radical ultra-MAGA insurgents. | ||
| Did you just tell me you agree with all four of her points? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the Hester rule is, what, 20 years old or maybe longer? | ||
| That's not some revolutionary That's actually the way the Republicans should run the House. | ||
| Ukraine is just, her position on Ukraine is borne out by the facts. | ||
| Now if you want to live in a fantasy world and think that F-16s are going to be shot down, sorry to say that, but the F-16s are going to be shot down. | ||
| The Russians have already shown their anti-aircraft, the S-400 systems and others are far superior. | ||
| We don't even know what the Russians have. | ||
| They're way ahead of us at this point. | ||
| Yeah, these are basically established Republican positions. | ||
| This isn't some kind of radicalism. | ||
| The radicalism is a Speaker of the House who is basically working with Democrats. | ||
| That's what's radical. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Melania Zanona at CNN just put up a tweet. | ||
| Speaker Johnson was also briefed on this Trump-MTG call per sources, and another source says Trump was very clear in telling MTG to quote, move on. | ||
| I asked, Zanoni didn't say, I asked Johnson about this and he told me he has, he is not in favor of the, Trump is not in favor of the motion to vacate. | ||
| Melania, I mean Dr. Crowley, if Trump is saying he doesn't support it. | ||
| Where do you stand? | ||
| Well, I know Congresswoman Greene, who's an absolute heroine throughout on all of these issues, but she's said that she's going to continue this fight. | ||
| She understands President Trump's position, but she has a strong position, too, that you elect a Republican majority in the House to exercise power. | ||
| And by the way, for everybody talking about— Do you agree with all four points that she laid out, or demands? | ||
| One thousand percent. | ||
| I'm totally with her on that. | ||
| Thank God that we have her. | ||
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Thank God we've got Congressman Gates. | |
| We're breaking news now. | ||
| You're not a radical, are you? | ||
| You're an assertionist. | ||
| And by the way, everybody feared, on the left, and the Uni Party, and the regime, they didn't fear Donald Trump's failure. | ||
| They feared his success, because his success, they knew, would give rise to thousands of Marjorie Taylor Greens that they would have to beat back. | ||
| When it comes to President Trump, look, I don't know where he is on this issue and what his thinking is. | ||
| I do think that everything is so destabilized in the country and with him, trying to stay out of jail for 700 years. | ||
| And all the pressure on him every day. | ||
| They're hammering him with the lawfare. | ||
| As powerful as he is, he's still just one man. | ||
| So he may just want some stability in the House. | ||
| Keep Republican control. | ||
| So I understand that point of view. | ||
| But I want to make one final point about this. | ||
| When the argument is made, well, the Republicans, they only have one vote majority and it's so slim and they don't want the upheaval and the chaos. | ||
| If the shoe were on the other foot and the Democrats had a one vote majority, they'd be exercising brute force. | ||
| Pelosi had two votes. | ||
| She was a hammer. | ||
| She got everything she wanted. | ||
| And by the way, Pelosi and Jeffries are still getting everything they want. | ||
| If he doesn't meet the four requirements, you say call the vote? | ||
| I say call the vote. | ||
| Let's see where it goes. | ||
| Jim Rickards, do you agree if Johnson does not agree to these four positions that you agree with, you would call the vote? | ||
| Yeah, I would. | ||
| And you know, the conventional wisdom is that it's going to lose because the Democrats will side with a certain number of Republicans. | ||
| So that's a very likely outcome. | ||
| But it still serves a purpose. | ||
| MTG wins either way. | ||
| If she wins the vote, that's great. | ||
| But even if she loses the vote, she's forced everyone to go on the record, say where you stand, and the voters can then decide. | ||
| That's democracy in action. | ||
| So I think she wins either way. | ||
| This is so important because you don't get people smarter than Dr. Monica Crowley or Jim Rickards on geopolitics, the economy, how the system works, and who the players are, and how the government works. | ||
| And all you've heard is that MTG's by herself, MTG's by herself. | ||
| Then when she lays it out, you sit there and go, that's pretty logical. | ||
| Why can't we just get back to that? | ||
| And if you don't do it, call a vote and let's see how it plays out. | ||
| Let's expose Bahim Jeffries is on 60 Minutes saying he's Speaker of the House. | ||
| Let's have a vote of Republicans that support that. | ||
| Oh yeah, the Democrats are right in your face saying that we control everything, even though nominally the Republicans do. | ||
| And the Republican base is sick of it. | ||
| We have voted and voted and voted for decades and nothing changes. | ||
| This is why. | ||
| Jim Rickards, thoughts? | ||
| Yeah, Steve, one of the greatest powers of the Speaker of the House is you don't have to put something on the floor. | ||
| If you're going, you gotta whip it and cap it, but you don't have to do that. | ||
| So why did Johnson put the FISA surveillance of Americans without a warrant, which violates | ||
| the Fourth Amendment, okay, and then because the other one was additional aid to Ukraine. | ||
| Listen to what he said. | ||
| He said, I was briefed by the intelligence committees or the intelligence agencies, CIA | ||
| in particular, and if you knew what I knew, if you knew what they told me in a classified | ||
| session Saturday, you'd do the same thing. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| He doesn't understand the intelligence community. | ||
| They are professional liars. | ||
| Denial and deception are considered, that's a plus on your resume. | ||
| If you're really good at that, you're probably pretty good in the intelligence community. | ||
| I was in it for 10 years. | ||
| I mean, you have some experience. | ||
| They lie to each other. | ||
| I mean, it's, you know, James Jesus Angleton called it the wilderness of mirrors. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| He was exactly right. | ||
| It is a wilderness of mirrors. | ||
| So you have to be like really good at assessing what your own people are telling you or not telling you. | ||
| Forget about figuring out the enemy. | ||
| You got to do that too. | ||
| So if I were in an intelligence briefing, I would say, look, you're probably lying to me. | ||
| In fact, I'm pretty sure you are. | ||
| Why don't we just cut to the chase? | ||
| Because Johnson, I don't know if he's naive or just pretending, but whatever they told him was a lie. | ||
| They're professional liars. | ||
| And I don't say that in a disparaging way. | ||
| It's what they do. | ||
| No, it's what they're supposed to. | ||
| Monica Rowley, do you agree with Rickerts? | ||
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1,000%. | |
| And when it comes to the FISA warrantless surveillance of American citizens... A massive expansion, not an extension. | ||
| I guarantee you, and I was not in that briefing, but I can guarantee you what they told him. | ||
| They played on the political fear. | ||
| Well, you know, if you don't renew this and there's another 9-11, the blood is going to be on your hands. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And they buy it. | ||
| Stanley Drunkard Miller on Squawk Box, Jim Rickards today, said that he was asked point-blank, give a grade on Bidenomics and Joe Biden's handling of the economy. | ||
| He said, if I had to give a grade today, it'd be an F. Wow. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| And that's coming from a guy who's not MAGA, okay? | ||
| He's not MAGA. | ||
| Your thoughts about that, sir? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if you're a really poor student and you really don't get it, maybe you get a D or a C minus. | ||
| I went to a few schools where they graded on a C curve. | ||
| And they graduated on a C-minus curve, and you needed a C to graduate, so how do you do that? | ||
| A gentleman's C, a gentleman's C. That's back in the old days when they weren't handing out A's. | ||
| But Stan is one of the, not just most successful, because money is not always the right measure of things. | ||
| He's one of the smartest hedge fund managers, smartest money managers around. | ||
| He now runs a family office, so I'll put a lot of weight on what he says. | ||
| Steve, if I could just pivot back to Saudi Arabia, just for a second. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| We have two assassination stories this morning. | ||
| One is MBS and, you know, need more details. | ||
| But the other one was a foiled assassination attempt on Zelensky. | ||
| The New York Times is blaming it on the Russians. | ||
| That's the most ridiculous idea I can think of. | ||
| You know, when you do intelligence work, I say, if you had all the facts, a smart high school kid could solve the problem. | ||
| Intelligence work is not having all the facts, but using Bayesian technique and inference and other, you know, tried and true techniques to figure it out. | ||
| Why on earth would the Russians assassinate Zelensky? | ||
| He's incompetent. | ||
| Corrupt. | ||
| No military experience at all. | ||
| If you're fighting a war, you want the leader of the other side to be as much of a dope as you can find, and Zelensky fits the bill. | ||
| You would never assassinate Zelensky, because he's losing the war. | ||
| You want an incompetent in charge. | ||
| So somebody, well, this was, this is, this was intra-Ukrainian, you know, they fired General Zelensky a couple months ago, and, but he's got his crowd, including a former President of Ukraine, and this is infighting in Ukraine, nothing to do with the Russians. | ||
| Over in Saudi Arabia, I heard something, it was the Israelis. | ||
| Again, MBS is probably one of the best friends the Israelis have. | ||
| Now, he can't come out and say that. | ||
| He can't sign up to the Abraham Accords. | ||
| But the Israelis wouldn't dare assassinate MBS. | ||
| It was likely the Iranians. | ||
| Jim, just hang over a second. | ||
| Jim Rickards joins us from Strategic Intelligence. | ||
| Dr. Monica Crowley. | ||
| Make sure you go to birchgold.com, the end of the dollar empire, the fifth installment, the central bank digital currency versus the central banks of the global south, the BRICS nations. | ||
| They're buying gold with two hands and we're working on a digital currency. | ||
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Your host Stephen K. Banner. Welcome back. | |
| Jim Rickards, you've got a, and remember, Rickards is not a gold bug, right? | ||
| But you've got a book and it kind of honors, it's a homage a little bit to Ron Paul. | ||
| Tell us what it is and how do people get it in going to strategic intelligence? | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Yeah, the book is The New Case for Gold. | ||
| And in 1981, Ronald Reagan had a commission to consider returning to the gold standard. | ||
| And Ron Paul, Lou Lerman and others were members. | ||
| Well, the Commission decided not to do it, but Ron Paul and Lou Lerman wrote a called a minority report called The Case for Gold. | ||
| So when I wrote my book, it was called The New Case for Gold, updating it, a lot more contemporary geopolitics, etc. | ||
| But we have a landing page. | ||
| It's RickardsWarRoom.com. | ||
| If you go there, RickardsWarRoom.com, if you go there, you can subscribe to Strategic Intelligence. | ||
| Which is only $49 a year. | ||
| We have some, you know, $5,000 services, but this one's the most voluminous. | ||
| It's $49 a year and a free copy of the new case for gold. | ||
| And this is the only place you can get this promotion. | ||
| Do you think now, more than ever, if President Trump put a commission, do you think there'd be, do you think it would even be more compelling than in 81? | ||
| Because you're in a currency war back then, right? | ||
| And to not come down to the Plaza Accords, I think in 88. | ||
| Do you think it would be a more compelling case today, sir? | ||
| A gold standard can work, but to do it, you would have to reprice gold to $25,000 an ounce. | ||
| Now, I'm not forecasting $25,000 gold. | ||
| What I'm saying is, if you want a gold standard with 8,000 metric tons, that would be the price relative to the money supply. | ||
| I always tell people, you don't need the government to be on the gold standard. | ||
| You can go on your personal gold standard, just buy some gold. | ||
| Don't overdo it, but if you buy gold, you've got all the benefits of a gold standard without relying on the government. | ||
| I'll tell a real quick story, Steve, and Monica will appreciate this because she's a former senior treasury official. | ||
| My first official, my first visit to the White House on official business was in 1974 in the Nixon administration. | ||
| I met with Helmut Sonnenfeld, who was the deputy national security advisor. | ||
| Big brain. | ||
| He was known as Kissinger's Kissinger. | ||
| He was with Robert W. Tucker, head of the American Foreign Policy Institute. | ||
| But we were planning the invasion of Saudi Arabia. | ||
| This was during the petrodollar standard when it was being set up. | ||
| William Simon and Jerry Parsky, they were the good cops. | ||
| They went and said, look, hey, price oil in dollars, take the dollars, buy treasury bills, CDs, our banks will lend the money to the third world, they'll buy our stuff, it's all good, we'll get out of the 1974 recession. | ||
| I was the bad cop along with others. | ||
| We were saying, by the way, if you don't do that, We're going to invade eastern Saudi Arabia. | ||
| It's not regime change. | ||
| We're going to establish a security perimeter around the world. | ||
| We're going to pump as much as we want, price it, all the money and trust for the Saudi people. | ||
| And then we leaked it to the Chicago Tribune. | ||
| So Saudi said, man, we'll do the petrodollar deal. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| But my point is, what were they doing that caused William Simon, Secretary of the Treasury, to do that? | ||
| They were buying gold. | ||
| And so that's actually something that the U.S. | ||
| wants to avoid, because when you buy gold, you put the gold away. | ||
| There's no circulation. | ||
| There's no velocity in that money. | ||
| This is the bricks. | ||
| Rickardswarroom.com. | ||
| You get access to strategic intelligence. | ||
| Now you're throwing in the new case for gold, correct? | ||
| You get the free book? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| It's the only place you can get this offer. | ||
| Jim, thank you for doing this. | ||
| I realize on the turn of a dime, you're jumping on here. | ||
| The audience loves it. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
| Make sure everybody goes to Rickardswarroom.com. | ||
| Check out strategic intelligence, sir. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
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| But shocking news today, two guys that think everything through on a global basis, who | ||
| are part of and think of the Trump movement are supporting MTG. | ||
| Drunken Miller saying that the Biden, and Drunken Miller is one of the most respected | ||
| I mean, you were at Treasury, a senior official for Trump at Treasury. | ||
| When Drunkard Miller doesn't say it's a B money, when he says it's an F, and it comes out right away. | ||
| Huge. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| Huge, huge. | ||
| That's the smart money. | ||
| Tell me what they think. | ||
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1000%. | |
| I've met him. | ||
| I can't say that I know him, but he is certainly on the Mount Rushmore of the financial establishment, right? | ||
| And it's not just Drunkard Miller now saying this. | ||
| You've had Warren Buffett tell the truth about the Biden economy. | ||
| You've had Jamie Dimon speak about the truth about the Biden economy. | ||
| I mean, you know, these guys might vote Democrat, but they're not liars when it comes to the state of the Biden economy. | ||
| It's not sustainable. | ||
| This is one of the reasons Johnson has this problem with this model. | ||
| Warren Buffett says on Saturday, it's not sustainable. | ||
| They're not going to cut spending because they don't have the will or the guts. | ||
| You're going to have massive tax increases. | ||
| Something's got to happen. | ||
| You just can't continue to do that. | ||
| Yeah, and again, these are establishment guys that are part of the financial establishment, but they're also part of the Democrat establishment. | ||
| But it's the Democrat party of old, right, that JFK, etc., that was for tax cuts and a growing economy. | ||
| What you have now is a Democrat party that is a Marxist revolutionary force in this country. | ||
| These guys see it because they're seeing the bottom line. | ||
| I honestly believe there are Marxists in the military force. | ||
| Right now, first of all, we have been in a rolling Marxist revolution since the 1930s. | ||
| Nixon was right. | ||
| McCarthy was right. | ||
| They were trying to raise the alarm bells. | ||
| Nobody would listen. | ||
| They were marginalized. | ||
| They were mocked. | ||
| They were sidelined. | ||
| Their reputations destroyed over it. | ||
| They were trying to warn us. | ||
| You're like Ann Coulter. | ||
| You were with me in Ann Coulter. | ||
| McCarthy's one of the great figures of the 20th century. | ||
| He was 100% right. | ||
| And, you know, the rank-and-file didn't see it at the time, but he was 100% right, because it started as a Soviet operation to infiltrate and destroy us from within. | ||
| Their first target was the U.S. | ||
| government, so they infiltrated that first, and then they expanded to the culture, to academia, now to big tech, and they control everything. | ||
| They've done the long march through the institutions. | ||
| Now we're living with it. | ||
| That's why you've got to combat it. | ||
| That's why you've got to be on offense. | ||
| All this talk. | ||
| Dredge the other day in his Mac Daddy had 41% of the American people are worried about a new civil war. | ||
| We got the finest combat historian of his generation, Patrick K. O'Donnell, joins us from the studios of the War Room in Washington, D.C. | ||
| Patrick, the day's finally come. | ||
| We've talked about this for a couple of years. | ||
| You're beloved by the War Room posse. | ||
| They love your books. | ||
| The Unvanquished is actually available. | ||
| For everybody that pre-ordered it, they get it, but the Unvanquished is available for everybody starting today. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Today is launch day, Steve. | ||
| And it's an honor to be here at the War Room to launch the book. | ||
| And this is something we've done a few times with my books. | ||
| Launch it from the War Room. | ||
| And it's available at Barnes & Noble nationwide. | ||
| It's at the front of the store. | ||
| It's an Amazon Best Book of the Month for history. | ||
| And yeah, it's been a bestseller for over a month already with just pre-orders alone. | ||
| Tell me that, because you've come on a couple of times to tease us about it. | ||
| They've loved what they've heard. | ||
| Look, they love your writing. | ||
| And then when you went from Iraq and the modern wars, you went back to revolution for two blockbusters. | ||
| Now you spent years, as you always do, on the Civil War. | ||
| Tell me about the book for people that haven't seen your previous hits, because Amazon's already rated the best history book of the month, which is a huge deal. | ||
| Tell me about the Unvanquished. | ||
| Why should our audience dive into about a special forces group fighting in Commonwealth of Virginia and other places? | ||
| Because, Steve, our world is being influenced by covert operations, special operations, irregular warfare. | ||
| You know, this show has been about the Middle East. | ||
| All we have to do is look at the hidden hand of Iran. | ||
| And not so hidden hand in the fact that their proxies are running all over the place. | ||
| This is something I saw firsthand when I was in Fallujah. | ||
| The hidden hand of Iran as their proxies were extremely powerful, Cuts Force, IRGC. | ||
| They had mastered the techniques that the men pioneered, men and women in some cases actually, that had pioneered in 1861 through 1865. | ||
| And what I mean by that is right here in Washington, D.C., in 1941, America did not have Special Operations Forces. | ||
| While Bill Donovan, the OSS, had defined an example Because World War I had taken place, covert operations, shadow operations were frowned upon by the establishment. | ||
| So they looked back at the Civil War, our first modern war. | ||
| And within the Civil War, there were specialized units. | ||
| This book tells the untold story of the Jesse Scouts, Lincoln Special Forces. | ||
| These are 18, 19, 20-year-old Boys that were asked to volunteer for hazardous duty. | ||
| They didn't know what that was in many cases. | ||
| They volunteered, they stepped forward, and they were asked to put on a Confederate uniform. | ||
| And they infiltrated behind Confederate lines. | ||
| They led the armies through, you know, tactical intelligence, finding the weak spots in the lines, delivered messages, but also captured and went after the most dangerous men of the South, including John Singleton Mosby. | ||
| Mosby's Rangers, which happened to be operating in The Commonwealth of Virginia, in fact, Northern Virginia, the Shenandoah Valley, Blue Ridge Mountains, and this is an amazing story of not only Mosby, but also irregular units that are the origins of what we now see today, but also the Confederate Secret Service, which is another really extraordinary shadow group. | ||
| They burned their records after the war, so now much is known about them, but they did things that were a hundred years ahead of their time, Steve. | ||
| We're talking about election interference, Influence from press operations. | ||
| What's important to understand is the Unvanquished is an entirely different look at the Civil War. | ||
| It looks at it as an insurgency as well as the shadow war. | ||
| The South did not have to win the war, they had to merely survive. | ||
| As we know in 20th century and 21st century counterinsurgencies, they're almost impossible to defeat if they have the population support behind them. | ||
| The South had to survive the war. | ||
| They came up with very innovative techniques and tactics which are now used today. | ||
| Everything from election interference to ballot fraud, for instance. | ||
| The first mail-in ballots, Steve, were during the Civil War so that Union soldiers could vote. | ||
| And of course, the book uncovers an incredible operation where there was a fraud scheme to change tens of thousands of ballots for the Democrat candidate at the time, George McClellan. | ||
| And it was almost successful. | ||
| No, no, if it hadn't been for the Union Army supporting Lincoln overwhelmingly, I'm not so sure his second term would have been the landslide. | ||
| Until Atlanta fell, McClellan was basically winning because he was running against this general who wanted to cut a peace deal with the South. | ||
| The reason I love the book is the personalities. | ||
| I mean, these are giants. | ||
| You've got Mosby. | ||
| You've got these guys from the Confederate Secret Service. | ||
| And you're absolutely correct. | ||
| The Confederate Secret Service, a lot of it was working out of Montreal. | ||
| And they were up to their necks in the assassination of Lincoln. | ||
| I mean, these guys were everywhere, and they've never really gotten their due. | ||
| And your book really puts forth both the Union heroes and also these Confederate personalities that are just larger than life. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And as you mentioned, in Montreal, it's the St. | ||
| Lawrence Hotel. | ||
| And this is really interesting cloak-and-dagger stuff, Steve. | ||
| Jefferson Davis knows that the war is being lost, so he gives the Confederate Secret Service and its agents a million dollars in gold to buy influence from whoever they can. | ||
| That's overseas powers, Great Britain or France, as well as the Democratic Party at the time, and it's at the St. | ||
| Lawrence Hotel that you have, you know, some incredible intrigue that takes place. | ||
| Mint juleps are served year-round there to satisfy anybody that's a Confederate sympathizer, all these expatriates that are up there from the South, and they're plotting and scheming the demise of the Union, and they nearly succeed. | ||
| But it's also the story of the Jesse Scouts that changed the course of the war through their actions. | ||
| It's about personal agency, Steve. | ||
| It's about men and women, mostly men in the case of the Jesse Scouts, that literally changed the course of the war through their actions. | ||
| The third battle of Winchester It's the Jesse Scouts that find crucial intelligence, that they realize that Jubal Early's brigade, one of his brigades, is being withdrawn to Richmond. | ||
| And it's through that intelligence, which includes an enslaved African American who is actually helping deliver the intelligence, and a schoolteacher, Rebecca Wright, that risks her entire life, with this intelligence to deliver it through the Jesse Scouts to General Sheridan in the attack at exactly the right time and place in the Third Battle of Winchester changes the course of the Civil War and the electorate as well. | ||
| The northern population now finally believes that the war can be won by the north. | ||
| And these men are doing things at the crucial time and place, such as Appomattox. | ||
| And I'll have a signing down there on Thursday on the 9th at 6 p.m. | ||
| And it's the Jesse Scouts that help capture Lee's supply trains and end the war. | ||
| Incredible stuff, Steve. | ||
| Patrick, where do people go to get the book now? | ||
| Where do they go to get your schedule? | ||
| We've got about 30 seconds. | ||
| Give folks everything. | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| uh... at combat historian uh... it better the book is that barnes and noble the front of the story go | ||
| by it patrick a o'donnell dot com | ||
| is my website and uh... at combat historian annex or twitter | ||
| and there is also a place you can find out all the details also have another side of my | ||
| my original library in bay steve | ||
| patrick where can people working people go to get your schedule right now | ||
| The War Room audience wants to meet you personally, get a signed copy, particularly shake your hand and say thank you, get to know you better. | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| I'd love to meet the War Room audience, the posse, they've been amazing. | ||
| Go to at Combat Historian at Getter, or at Combat Historian on Twitter or X, or my website patrickkodonald.com. | ||
| Book is on Amazon, front of the store at Barnes & Noble. | ||
| and other fine booksellers across the country. | ||
| We launched today. | ||
| Today is publication day. | ||
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But it's already been a bestseller for over a month. | |
| They're going to buy a lot more and they want to meet you. | ||
| The unvanquished best combat historian of his generation, Patrick K. O'Donnell. | ||
| Look forward to seeing you on Memorial Day. | ||
| Be back in a couple of weeks for our annual Memorial Day weekend show. | ||
| Can't wait, Steve. | ||
| I also look forward to meeting the audience, too. | ||
| I have in the past. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's been great. | ||
| Get to his site, find out where he's going to be. | ||
| Patrick's the kind of guy who will spend hours after these big signings getting you up to speed on the history of this country, the true history of this country. | ||
| Monica Crowley, thoughts? | ||
| Is Netanyahu going to go in and clean this mess up, get rid of these combat brigades? | ||
| Is he going to focus the media? | ||
| You ain't seen nothing yet. | ||
| This Marxist revolution here is going to get more intense. | ||
| Your thoughts? | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| When it comes to Bibi Netanyahu, he has spent his entire adult life defending the state of Israel and ensuring its survival. | ||
| This is it for him. | ||
| This is his legacy, this war. | ||
| He's made it very clear that he is going all the way to Rafah, that the mission has already started there. | ||
| So he's going to clean out Hamas root and branch. | ||
| This is not a head fake. | ||
| No matter how much, no, absolutely not. | ||
| And no matter how much pressure Biden and his team rains down on Israel and on Bibi's head, he is going forward. | ||
| What about, are we going to see an explosion in New York City and other cities as it spreads out of the campuses into places like Times Square in Chicago, Los Angeles? | ||
| Are these Marxist revolutionaries just starting? | ||
| Yes, and as we always say, the famous line, the issue is never the issue, the issue is always the revolution. | ||
| That is 100% true. | ||
| The top line issue is never what it's all about. | ||
| So you go back to 2020, Antifa, Black Lives Matter, you go back even further. | ||
| Is this about Israel and the Jews, or is this about America and the Americans? | ||
| It's partly about Israel and the Jews, and that's horrifying enough. | ||
| That's the portal. | ||
| That's the portal to get to the West. | ||
| That's the pretext to continue these Marxist, you know, revolutionary activities in the West, in the United States. | ||
| But it's really not about Israel. | ||
| It's always about destabilizing American society. | ||
| You have a PhD, right? | ||
| I do. | ||
| Do you agree with me we've got to purge the faculties? | ||
| I mean, going to purge the faculties of Marxists? | ||
| By the way, I'm a graduate of Columbia University. | ||
| I hold three degrees from Columbia and I am horrified by what's going on. | ||
| Have they asked you to be commencement address? | ||
| I have not gotten that invitation. | ||
| Lost in the mail, Bannon, I guess. | ||
| They did not celebrate you as a senior executive in the first Trump term? | ||
| I think they are so embarrassed that I am a multi-degree graduate of Columbia University. | ||
| When I was there, it was relatively quiet, but Columbia has always been a leading force for this kind of revolutionary activity. | ||
| And, you know, like we talked about how when the Soviets started this whole project to infiltrate and destroy us from within, they started with the government and then they moved quickly to academia. | ||
| Because college campuses are very concentrated environments, and so you can get revolutionary thoughts, ideas, and activities going. | ||
| It's like setting a match onto dry kindling. | ||
| Plus, they don't have to work for a living. | ||
| By the way, so Mosby, the book of The Unvanquished takes place, a lot of it takes place around Middleburg. | ||
| I know part of your stomping grounds, Palm Beach, Middleburg, in the Upper East Side of New York City. | ||
| Monica, the gracious and classy Monica. | ||
| How does the gracious and classy Monica Crowley end up in the war room? | ||
| I told you, I am an America first rebel. | ||
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I've got to talk about your career trajectory. | |
| I'm an America first rebel, and I was one of President Trump's very first public supporters. | ||
| A couple hours after he came down the escalator, I was on Fox and I said, stop laughing, do not underestimate him, he's going to pull the whole thing off. | ||
| And they looked at you like you were crazy. | ||
| When I got a ton of slings and arrows, like, hey, Monica, you know, you're nuts. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| You got a podcast. | ||
| Your writings are amazing. | ||
| You're one of the smartest people out there. | ||
| You get the whole picture. | ||
| That's what President Trump puts you at Treasury. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Monica Crowley podcast available wherever you get your podcasts, Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, but also we're up on Rumble. | ||
| So it's an audio podcast, but we do have a Rumble page, the Monica Crowley podcast. | ||
| So please go check it out. | ||
| You threw down pretty hard on that, too. | ||
| Oh, I hold nothing back. | ||
| You got off the chain. | ||
| I hold nothing back. | ||
| We don't have time to waste and sugarcoat anything. | ||
| You've got to tell the truth and wake everybody up. | ||
| And you're saying at 1230 today, it's been announced, MTG is going in. | ||
| If Johnson doesn't hit the bid on those four, which you think are very logical, you're saying... Call the vote. | ||
| Call the vote. | ||
| Call the vote. | ||
| We have no more time to waste. | ||
| The country is hanging by a thread, can no longer sugarcoat things or make accommodations to the Marxist left, even in our own party, Steve. | ||
| Mike Lindell, real quickly, people want to talk about deals because you blew it out yesterday. | ||
| Real quickly, on Speaker Johnson, do you call the vote and let's see where people stand on the motion to vacate? | ||
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| Absolutely. | ||
| We've got to get rid of him immediately. | ||
| We've got to get rid of him. | ||
| Hold it! | ||
| Hold it! | ||
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Stop! | |
| He's a Christian. | ||
| He's got a biblical worldview. | ||
| You've got to have his back. | ||
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Yeah, whatever. | |
| He can use that word all he wants. | ||
| We'll see what day he was saved, okay? | ||
| People can use that, use that, oh I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian, and think that they can do this to our country. | ||
| They can't. | ||
| We're not going to take it. | ||
| People have got to make their own decisions here, but this guy's got to go. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Give me a deal. | ||
| Talk to us about a deal. | ||
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