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April 23, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3557: Billionaires Underwrite The Protests On College Campuses
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ben bergquam
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steve bannon
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andrew ross sorkin
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joe scarborough
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jake tapper
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University keeping the media out?
This is the COO of the university.
Are we not letting the media in?
Can you back up, please?
My card has been deactivated?
Why?
Can you back up, please?
Aha!
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Everybody, my card has been deactivated.
This is Cass Holloway, the COO.
This is Gerald Lewis.
They were in the meeting where I asked them if Hamas is a terror organization, and they couldn't say that it is a terrorist organization.
Why?
I'm a professor.
Why can't I say that?
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼
Shai, we are willing to take you to the math lawn.
unidentified
No, I am a professor here.
We are pro-alumnus.
We have a right to say what we want.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼
Everybody quiet.
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I am a professor here.
I have every right to be everywhere on campus.
You cannot let people that support Hamas...
...and the people of Syria.
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Cooperman's comments came as some billionaire Columbia donors are saying they are rethinking their support of the school amid everything that is going on with the protests.
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
unidentified
And Andrew joins us now.
So... Yeah.
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼
So, Andrew, I, you know, I agree with Mr. Cooperman.
I think I think maybe they were a little slow to it.
I know this will make nobody happy, but I think at Columbia, I think Columbia is a good example of where they're trying to do the right thing.
Now, you know, it was Columbia where students took over, you know, during the Vietnam War, students took over the president's office and everybody thought that was so cool and so noble.
Younger people like me grew up and they're like, what?
What?
I was always afraid to knock on the president of the university's door.
There's nothing cool about anarchy and chaos on your college campuses.
And I think sometimes these administrators, I don't know if they came straight from academia, I don't know what their problem is.
But they're paid to be adults.
They're paid to keep people safe.
They're paid to have an orderly environment where students can learn.
So I think Mr. Gooperman may be right there, that they're getting it.
Better late than never.
andrew ross sorkin ▲ ● ▼
Well look, one of the things that just happened today is they've just announced they've gone hybrid, effectively for the rest of the semester, as a way of dealing with it.
Now a lot of people have said, That means you're not controlling anything.
You're effectively giving up.
You're saying you can't control the situation.
Now, maybe that's the practicality of where we are, but I think there is a real question as to whether Colombia is handling this well.
I think they're getting better at it, if you will.
That hasn't stopped Robert Kraft.
Of course, the owner of the Patriots came out.
He's an alumnus and said that he is effectively not going to be giving them more money.
And there's a whole number, by the way, of major billionaire donors on Wall Street and others who come from Columbia.
Warren Buffett, one of probably the most famous alumni, he has not spoken out.
I think there's a real debate as to whether the donors should be trying to use their influence, not trying to use their influence.
That's another piece of it.
And so many of them, frankly, I know a bunch who would like to actually speak out, who say, you know what, I don't want to because I'm so scared that actually my employees will actually either turn against me on this issue or that my customers will turn against me on this issue.
So there's a real sort of push-pull going on here in terms of all of it.
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Yeah, and it is very sad to me and you know we, you know.
But look at America.
We've done research, and it shows 90% of the people in this country are good people.
They just have to be educated, and we can't have them apathetic or misguided.
We have to let them know, and they have to stand up and not be silent.
And, you know, it starts with the Jews, but then every group that feels marginalized, whether it be blacks, Asians, Hispanics, gay people, it'll just really impact the great fabric of this country, where people have freedom to operate and go the way they want.
And now we have hatred and intimidation taking over.
You know, I was just thinking when I went to Columbia, it was a place where people listened, were empathetic, had compassion.
And now, you know, we have professors who, instead of teaching how to think, that they're trying to tell our young people what they should think.
message Go to New York.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Pray for our enemies.
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Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
Let me get, let me get my microphone cut on.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It's Tuesday, 23 April in the Year of Our Lord 2024.
We're going to go to Lower Manhattan in a minute.
Ben Berquam, and now we've got a seat inside the courtroom.
A lot going on today, including about the gag order.
We've got some cuts, really.
I think Jonathan Turley really summarized what's happening, but what's happening in Lower Manhattan is inextricably linked.
What's happening up at Columbia and at Yale and Harvard and these other places.
You know, Robert Kraft and Cooperman, These large donors, progressive donors, they didn't have any... all of a sudden it's like they're shocked that the radical Sharia supremacist jihadists are coming after Jewish students.
But they had no problem, they were underwriting for years what got us here.
This just didn't happen overnight.
You know, there's a lot of complaints on some of these sites that, hey, these students are all Affirmative Action, DEI, etc.
that got in there.
Hey, I don't know that or not, but I know that Kraft and Cooperman underwrote Columbia.
It's most progressive.
They kept pouring money in there.
It was no problem until it turned on them.
All of a sudden, it's a problem.
And Columbia cratered.
Columbia is basically going to give Remote learning.
And if you saw the two young women that Ben Berquam interviewed yesterday, who are essentially scared to walk across campus and said, hey, I'm paying $60,000.
Why am I doing it online?
It looks like that's going to be the part of the solution.
Like I said, that very first, in that cut, the very first, that professor who couldn't get on campus, he's one of the most progressive professors there.
This is the progressive world order turning on itself.
You have to have total clarity here.
With people like Trevor Loudon and Frank Gaffney, who've been mocked and ridiculed and banned.
You know, banned at CPAC years ago.
You don't see them on Fox News.
Banned over at Murdoch News.
Banned everywhere.
They've been talking about the Red-Green Alliance, the progressives teaming up with the jihadists.
And eventually part of that's going to come unwound.
You're seeing it right now.
This is a very dangerous situation.
Extremely dangerous situation.
If you were to walk through some of those encampments, you'd be torn apart.
Look what happened in New York City last night.
NYU.
Incredibly dangerous.
Down near what?
Washington Square Park?
Over by the Stern Business School.
Incredibly dangerous.
If you're a young Jewish and you're walking in there, you're going to be torn to shreds.
Torn to shreds.
If you're up in Columbia, you're going to be torn to shreds.
But how did it get to this point?
And how the big donors and Kraft's given this thing about marginalized communities.
The marginalized communities think you're the problem.
They don't need, they're not going to, what do you mean better educate them?
You're going to, you're going to have a group hug and you're going to explain to them.
How the world is?
What are you not seeing?
This is all happy talk.
It's happy talk, craft wandering around.
You underwrote this.
Cooperman, you underwrote this.
And the other says, and on Morning Joe, the CNBC, Andrew Ross Sorkin, well, many, many more would want to come forward, but they're scared because their employees and customers could turn on them.
Well, What do you think happens to the MAGA every day?
You can't be scared.
You got to step forward.
You either believe in something or you don't believe in it.
If you're scared and you're going to curl up, you're going to be destroyed.
Hey, this is not going to stop.
You underwrote this.
You underwrote this.
This is, what do you think, the 10 to 12, 15 million?
You think they're Jeffersonian Democrats coming across that border that all you people and all the people on the left are sitting there cheerleading on every day?
Yeah, these are xenophobe, white nationalists, all these bad people trying to stop it.
No.
Because we've argued and seen for years what's on that square out there in the Commons in Columbia.
We've warned you about this for years and years and years and we stood up and fought it.
And the people that did that were vilified.
And you think it's going to go away now because you stopped your donations?
As I said, it's not stopping your donations.
You've got to go on offense.
If you don't go on offense, it's eventually going to be over.
All the pressure right now.
To stop the destruction of the Muslim Brotherhood's franchisees, Hamas combat brigades, it's because people are blinking.
And the Israelis have laid it out that that is the first order of business they have to take care of or there'll never be peace.
Well, these people don't want peace.
Peace is not part of the program.
If you want to see how it manifests itself, you want to see how it manifests itself, just look at lower Manhattan.
Donald Trump.
The one individual that stood up and said, we have to stop this madness or we're going to lose our country.
They want to put him in prison.
The same progressives of Tish James and Eric Adams and Alvin Bragg and Matthew Colangelo coming from the Eric Holder, Obama, Merrick Garland, Joe Biden, Justice Department is up there arguing the case.
These are two sides of the same coin.
And don't give me your happy talk.
Oh, it just needs education.
They're so uneducated.
They just don't know.
Oh, they know fine.
They know fine.
You trust me.
Kraft, you ought to walk.
Kraft, here's what you ought to do today.
Get some of you guys, get some of those consultants you have.
And Kraft, go to the university you graduated from and walk across that lawn and spout that happy talk to them.
Let's see what happens.
We'll send a camera crew up there.
You don't understand.
This country is in hanging in the balance.
And the people that have tried to defend it, and have tried to defend you, you've mocked and ridiculed for years.
The Trevor Lowndes, the Frank Gaffney's, all these heroes.
unidentified
Back in one moment in the war.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
No, what you're seeing is the unwinding of the progressive world order up at Columbia and Harvard and Yale, and what you're seeing is the power that still has.
It's gripped, it's destroyed our universities, destroyed centers of higher education.
It's all propaganda now.
I don't remember Cooperman and Kraft coming forward.
I missed that.
Maybe it was because everything happened.
The summer love, when they've taken over Columbia during BLM, during George Floyd.
I forget hearing the big donors there saying how bad that was.
I forgot that.
I missed that.
I'll go back.
I'll go back and check.
But I kind of missed that.
I missed that one.
I don't think the donation stopped them, did they?
I don't think so.
They don't understand that that's what this is.
Ben Burquam was there.
You saw how dangerous it was.
Burquam, I think there's an insight in here.
I was actually more concerned with you particularly staying around in the evening or going down to NYU.
We have a lot of young people we know at NYU and we heard that was revving up.
I actually was more concerned with you being down there than oftentimes you're on the most dangerous parts of northern Mexico or down in the Darien Gap.
That's how dangerous this is.
And those people, the sharia supremacist, jihadist, anti-American, hate American, they're not looking for a debate.
They're not looking for some sort of conversation.
They're not looking for dialogue.
You notice they're not talking about dialogue.
They're past dialogue.
And you have to take it for what it is.
They're past dialogue.
Okay, so what do we do next?
Ben Burquam, you were there.
Tell me about it.
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, no, everything they say, you just basically flip it.
So if they say peace, they want war.
If they say tolerance, they want violence.
They are the exact opposite of what they claim to be.
They're the definition of Satan himself.
When you look at an angel of light who is pure darkness, that is what this is.
This is a battle of good versus evil, and it is pure evil.
I'm telling you, you can feel it.
When you walk onto the campus of Columbia right now, you feel the spirit of darkness there.
You go down to NYU, you feel the spirit of darkness.
You go to any college campus across America, And this has been invited in.
These pillars of evil have been invited in for 40 plus years.
And you're right.
These guys weren't saying anything back in BLM.
These guys were taking a knee.
These guys were bending over.
And all you have to do is look at this.
This is terrorism.
It has gotten the highest levels of our society to bend over and take it when these guys make a demand.
Even to the point where a college university...
I mean, that's what's happened.
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These guys are so afraid.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
They didn't have a problem when these were used as the shock troops or the brown shirts in the summer love to take down Trump, to surround the White House and actually have the Secret Service take Trump down into the thing.
They didn't have any problem at all with that.
That's exactly right.
If Robert Kraft hasn't read the Bill Ackman, when Bill Ackman put up the money At Harvard, for Harvard to really do a study, because he was shocked.
He was shocked.
And he did the big study.
He had all kind of guys looking at all the DEI programs.
And he came back and he said, he took it on himself, said, I gave money, I was asleep, I kept underwriting this stuff.
I had no earthy idea of what I was doing.
I didn't really understand how it had gotten down into the hiring practices.
of the university.
He had never listened to Mark Ruffo.
He had never seen what Governor DeSantis and Ruffo were trying to do down at, to break the University of Florida system from having this.
They didn't say that.
But Bill Ackman about, and one time he had, I don't know, it's like a 5,000 word, looked like a tweet, just went on forever.
And in the middle he says, I came to the realization, after all this thing, that in these people, in the DEI programs, et cetera, Jews are white.
That was his phrase.
And he said that was a big shock to him.
Kraft thinks he's going to go into the audience up there.
I want you to tell Robert Kraft, the owner of the Patriots, and one of the wealthiest guys in the country, I think he's worth $11 billion.
If he was to go into that crowd today that you've seen and been up there and try to argue that Jews are marginalized just like these Sharia supremacist jihadis think they are, is he going to win that argument?
Are they going to have a group hug?
Is he going to get some high fives and be invited back, Ben Burquam?
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼
Within a millisecond, he will be shouted down and they will start doing their chants from the river to the sea.
Palestine will be free.
They want to wipe Israel off the face of the map.
They do not want dialogue.
I was there yesterday.
As soon as you start asking questions that they don't like, they immediately start shouting you down.
And if shouting you down doesn't work, they get violent.
That is the MO.
That is who these people are.
And it works.
The reason they do it is because it works.
And these are not just college students, like AOC says, practicing getting their voice.
These are Terrorist organizations that are funded by the left, globalist organizations around the world that are funding the demise of not just America, but the Western world.
If you don't understand that, you're going to get eaten alive when you go there.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Ben, you have been our lead sled dog on all things related to the border.
You've spent most of your time the last couple of years not at rallies, not election fraud, not at the university.
You've spent some time there where we free you up, but you're literally the investigative reporter on the border.
What you've seen come across the border, is that not one of the big underwriters of personnel of the types of folks you're seeing on the commons at Columbia or down at NYU last night, sir?
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I know.
We're importing a generation of people that hate this country.
We're doing it on purpose, coming directly out of Washington, D.C., and all you have to do is go to any border, on our southern border and our northern border now, and you'll see it.
We are inviting in the people that will terrorize this country for decades to come.
And you go to the college, and you mentioned it, Steve, I want to touch on this point.
I feel much more in danger when I'm on a college campus in America than I do when I'm in most third-world countries that I go to, whether that's Mexico or Colombia, the border of Venezuela, or coming up through Guatemala.
I feel you can sense the immediate danger that you're in in these places because there is no compromise.
With the cartel, there's a level.
It's like the mafia in America.
There's a code.
The cartel has that same code.
You don't mess with their business, they don't typically mess with you.
There is no code with these people.
They are pure, demonic, evil people that want to destroy us.
They want to kill us.
They want to destroy our ideology, but ultimately they want to kill us.
And when they have that opportunity, they'll do it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I want to hit rewind on that for a second, and I'm going to have to keep you past 1030.
I know you've got to get back into the courtroom.
I want you to rewind that.
You and Oscar Blue Ramirez, in the last three or four years, have been in some of the most dangerous places on Earth.
What's more dangerous, some of the places you've been to and exposed yourself to, or the Ivy League University in Upper Manhattan of Columbia, or NYU down near Washington Square Park?
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼
Again, they're equivalent to me.
It's the same evil, but I'll tell you that the threat I feel when I walk on those places is immediate.
You know, when you've got bullets flying at you in the middle of the Darien Gap, yes, there's danger there, you duck down, and then the threat's over.
In these places, the danger never goes away.
When you're on that campus, in particular, if you're a conservative student on that campus, or a Christian or a Jewish student on these campuses, the danger never goes away.
When you're down in the Darien Gap, you go from danger to danger, and the soft spots in between.
Here, the danger's always there.
That's the difference.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And this is why they basically closed the university and they're going to do it by remote for the Jewish students and for the Christian students.
Let's go ahead and play his cold open on Hillary Clinton.
I'm going to get Ben for he has to go back in the courtroom.
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That you hear coming out of Donald Trump should scare every American because with an authoritarian, you never know what side of the bed they'll wake up on.
You never know who they're going to be upset with today.
You never know if somebody basically bribes them by giving business to a relative or some other gift that they will try to destroy one business to advantage another.
Never.
No.
Because they don't believe in the rule of law.
They don't believe in institutions.
And therefore, if you give them a chance to be more unfettered than he was in his first term, when he was trying to figure out what he could do, and he had actually some people around who were restraining him, that is all going to be gone.
If he ever gets back near the White House again, It will be like having a dictator.
And I don't say that lightly, but go back and read Project 2025.
They're gonna fire everybody.
Oh, the person in, you know, the government who knows about what may be the next pandemic, get rid of him.
He didn't vote for me, or I don't, you know, like the way he looks.
I mean, just think about the chaos and the instability that we got through With COVID, although it cost hundreds of thousands more lives than it should have, because he was such an inept leader when we needed somebody to really grab hold and guide us through this unprecedented global pandemic.
What is clear is, in this case, Trump is right.
I mean, this is an embarrassment.
I mean, the fact that we are actually talking about this case being presented in a New York courtroom leaves me in utter disbelief.
I mean, the arguments today did, in fact, capture all the problems here.
You know, you had this misdemeanor under state law that had run out.
This is going back to related to the 2016 election.
And they zapped it back into life by alleging that there was a campaign finance violation under the federal laws that doesn't exist.
The Department of Justice doesn't view it this way.
But on top of that, you've got these tough factual issues that were laid out well by the Trump team, saying someone else designated this as a legal expense, and he was actually paid far in excess of this because this was a legal account.
But also keep in mind, this is what Hillary Clinton's people did.
You know, remember when they funded the Steele dossier, which they denied to reporters.
They put it as a legal expense.
And then they fought the eventual fine that they received from the federal government, saying, but it was a legal expense.
But now you've got some of the same Democrats supporting this bizarre theory.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The same lawlessness you see up in Columbia is the same lawlessness you see down in the courtroom.
This is how the progressives roll.
There's nothing about the rule of law.
There's no upholding of the customs and traditions of the United States of America or the customs and traditions of the Judeo-Christian West.
None of it.
None of it.
This thing's beyond a joke.
You got Hillary sitting there.
Oh, look at this.
He's going to be a dictator.
You're going to get pounded on this every single day.
OK, we'll take a short commercial break.
Ben's got to bounce.
He's got to get back in the courtroom, but I'm going to hold him for a second.
They've been talking about the gag order jumping all over President Trump, taking out his constitutional rights.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, let's go back to lower Manhattan.
For one hour, the trial has not started.
They've been in a firefight inside on this gag order.
As Mike Davis told you, a totally unconstitutional gag order.
Ben Burquam, I mean, President Trump's defense team and the judge are going at it here.
It's not even the prosecution anymore.
It's the judge, right?
It's defense who are saying, hey, President Trump tweets or puts true socials out 24-7 all the time.
This is what he does.
This is a big part of his campaign, and the judge is getting angrier and angrier.
Your thoughts, sir?
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼
Well, first thought is I'm looking at an illegal alien bus drive across, right in front of me, as we speak, heading over to the ICE office.
So that's happening every single day down here.
And the second part is, this is, you play that Hillary Clinton thing, every time you play a Hillary Clinton piece, you should call that a gag order.
Because the entire audience of the war room is throwing up in their mouth.
These people are the exact thing that they claim.
Just like we're talking about at Columbia, they claim that we're these things.
They're professional projectionists.
They are the ones trying to tear down justice.
And I just want to point out what it says on this building behind me, equal and exact justice for all men, by Jefferson.
That is what we are fighting for in this country, and that is what the left is taking away.
And if you don't see that happening, you're either blind or ignorant.
Or you're just a liar.
A lot of people are simply behind it.
Hillary Clinton knows exactly what she's doing.
She's laughing.
She's laughing as she says that because she knows they're the ones that are doing that to the American people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Well, this is about like the donors and others, these progressives that have been underwriting this mess and now realize it's blowing back on them.
I call it the DEI Civil War.
That's what you're having right now.
And they have willful blindness.
Andrew Roarce Sorkin said it.
Some are so scared that their employees and or customers are going to turn on them.
And they're taking the coward's way out.
If you don't stand in the breach right now, This is a moment of clarity for this country.
We're having a great awakening.
Part of that great awakening is the great unmasking.
You're seeing exactly who's on the side of the American Republic.
And you're going to see exactly who's on the side of destroying the American Republic.
Simple.
There's no middle ground here.
You're going to have to choose a side.
Okay?
And we'll force you to choose a side.
But this is what this fight's all about.
Yes, sir.
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼
This is gangrene of our country, Steve.
And the longer we wait, the more fatal it becomes.
You gotta cut that limb off.
You gotta cut this cancer out of our society.
And these people are afraid of it.
The truth is, every single day, they don't stand up.
They cower.
They give these people more leverage.
They embolden these people.
And eventually, you won't be able to stand up.
It's now or never for this nation.
It's 2024 or never for this nation.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
This is why I'm getting, as you can imagine, given some of the things you've seen on social media, I'm taking a lot of calls of people saying, Steve, you gotta back off, you gotta back off.
No, we're not backing off, Johnson.
Johnson gave the forces of darkness one of the biggest victories they've ever had.
The southern border, what's plowing up here through the southern border is sitting there on the commons at Columbia.
It's what's persecuting Trump in lower Manhattan.
Johnson gave him that win.
I'm never going to back off that.
And the war on posse is not going to back off it.
And if it's too hard for some people, that's fine.
And President Trump's got enough burden on his shoulders.
I realize when President Trump comes out and says, hey, Johnson's doing a good job, he's got to focus on what he's got right there, because they're trying to throw him in prison for 20 years on made-up charges.
OK?
Johnson doesn't have his back.
Jordan, these guys haven't lifted a finger.
There should be a mass criminal conspiracy investigation going right on.
You've got to go on offense.
There's been no offense to support President Trump.
None.
And for those people out there leaning on your rakes, thinking, hey, we got this, we're going to win and see the polling.
This thing is in the balance.
The campaign, we need more bodega runs.
We need a bodega run like every other day.
We need Trump, a show of force, the people that love him, the people that support him.
So you know what?
The Commons in Columbia have the radical Sharia Jihadists.
Trump's a couple blocks away, goes into Harlem.
They're five and six deep.
People of color are five and six deep, cheering for Trump because they know that in 17, 18, particularly 19, we were at peace and prosperity and they were making a good living and could live.
They understand that.
Remember, they are inundated and bombarded 24 hours a day with nothing but Trump hate.
Read the New York Times.
Look at MSCB.
Look at their local news.
They are inundated.
They are swamped.
They can't breathe unless they have Trump hate forced down their throats and they stand seven deep loving the guy.
Okay, that's the campaign.
Trump's not running against Murshani, he's running against Biden.
And those people right there have his back.
And the enemy's on the Commons, on the Commons, and in the Faculty Senate, and in the administration of Columbia University.
And for Kraft and for Cooperman, turn your fire and purge the faculty.
Purge the faculty and purge and fire every administrator there that's tolerated this.
You're not going to be safe until that happens because they want to destroy Israel and they want to destroy the Jews in America and people better take this seriously because Every day, the cancer's not cut out, it metastasizes, and the one guy that stood up for you is down there in the Who's Gal, quite frankly, supported by guys like you that supported all this madness, supported DEI, CRT, ESG, Larry Fink and that crowd.
That's why Trump's down there.
This is obscene.
You're either on the side of the American Republic or you're against her.
Okay?
And right now, there's no in-between.
There's no in-between.
What did Jesus say?
If you're lukewarm, you're going to get spit out.
You can't be lukewarm in this.
You've got to choose a side.
Ben Buraquan's been, he's been from the Darien Gap, where they start coming through all the way up through the cartel tories and all the danger of the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas, which Hispanic citizens are supporting Trump Because they're sitting there going, I can't take anymore.
Just like the people in Harlem, they can't take it anymore.
They're being destroyed as citizens of this country.
And Trump's the one person that stood up for him.
And Hillary Clinton all puffed up like Jabba the Hutt.
She's over there like Jabba the Hutt.
You know, oh, he's a dictator.
This is going to be terrible.
Screw you.
Get out of here.
You got defeated.
I'm so glad I had a tiny role in that, that you and Garland are gone.
Right?
Garland's now in the Supreme Court and you're gone.
Ben Burquam, give me some summary thoughts, brother.
You've been the hero.
You've been everywhere on this.
The most dangerous place ever you're about to walk in is that courtroom because they're trying to send Trump to prison for 20 years, sir.
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, man, that is so true.
The real mafia in America today is the Bar Association, and you have, as American citizens, general American public, have no recourse.
You are eaten by the machine, and these guys are used, and these DAs are used to protect these demons, these vipers that are on these college campuses.
If we don't deal with this right now, As a nation, these guys are going to take this country over and you're not going to be able to deal with it.
You're going to have to deal with them screaming at you.
You're going to have to deal with them calling you names.
You're going to have to deal with them attacking you.
And we have to say, shut up, sit down, we're done with it.
And the adults of this nation and the warriors of this nation have to take this nation back or else it's gone.
That's it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You don't deal with it now?
And this is the greatest gift that Trump has given this country.
He could have gone to Mar-a-Lago and gone away and allowed us to deal with this without his leadership.
He had the courage to come back.
There was no necessity for him to come back.
He had the courage to come back after they stole the election from him and tried to destroy his presidency.
And they came back to destroy his business and put him in prison.
And for doing that, they're trying to put him in prison for 700 years.
This is why we either take care of this now or the country's going to be over.
This is the inflection point.
We've got to take care of this now.
And that's why do not think for one second that this is a sealed deal about November.
Because every day you can see what they're trying to do, engulf Trump and try to take him off the campaign trail and bleed him out.
And also, no offense, he's getting some terrible advice.
You know, seeing Johnson and seeing these people and, you know, MAGA wants MAGA.
MAGA wants America first and they want American citizens first.
We have to have President Trump's back.
The first thing, he's got to get on the road and run for mayor.
He runs for mayor of New York City, like he did the other day in the bodega.
That's a show of force that puts the fear of God in them, because they understand the streets of New York and the people in New York are on Trump's side.
Ben Burckholm, what's your social media?
Where do people go?
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼
At Ben Burquam on all social, FrontlineAmerica.com, AmericasVoice.news, and I have so much content.
Wait till you see it, Steve.
When you talk about it, you highlighted the fact the legal immigrants that came in, the interviews I got yesterday from people from Colombia, from India, from Africa, from China, all legal immigrants that are on the Trump side.
Wait till you see these interviews versus the radical, deranged left that hate this country and hate you and hate the society that has given the prosperity that we have to the world.
God bless our veterans.
I had one, I was just speaking to a minute ago.
Our freedom comes from their blood, and we, you know, that's what we're fighting for.
If we don't do it, we're going to lose this nation, but we're going to continue to show it.
At Ben Berkram, I'm going to head back in the courtroom and bring you the latest when I get out.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Real America's Voice has now got a media pass me in the courtroom, so they're going to frickin' frack you today.
Ben, we'll talk to you this afternoon.
God bless.
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼
Yes, sir.
unidentified
All right.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You know, we try to stay on the news here 24-7 and signal not noise.
There's something was bugging me for the longest time.
And it took Jackie Tarboroff up in New York.
Jackie, thank you for joining us today.
We're going to get Donna Berkshire from Minnesota on in a second.
But you wrote this piece, if Real America's Voice can get it up.
What was bugging me were these beautiful state flags.
These beautiful state flags that talk so much about America, just beautiful, artistically classical and beautiful, being replaced by these things that were so hideous and so ugly.
And they had, there was something bugging me about it that I just couldn't put my finger on.
And then your article came out today about the stars.
I'm going to take it.
I've got three minutes here.
We're going to hold you through the break.
Walk me through this article of yours, this piece of what Donna Bergstrom's analysis and yours is telling us.
unidentified
So, as of now, 17 cities and states have either approved a new flag or have proposed a new flag design, erasing the five-point American star and replacing it with an eight-point Islamic symbol.
This cannot be a coincidence.
Something nefarious is underway.
This is a trend that is happening throughout America.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hold it, go back to this for a second.
I want to just pull the camera back and tell me what you're talking about.
Five stars, American, eight stars, what is it?
So walk me through it.
I know it's happening in Utah, I think it's happening in Minnesota, but people are going to go, Jackie, you're crazier than normal.
unidentified
It's just a star, right?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Put down the coffee, put down your Warpath coffee.
And so what is the big deal?
unidentified
It's a huge deal.
What unites us in America is our freedom.
And the five-point American star, dating back to 1776, Betsy Ross, is very unique to America.
What is very unique to Islamic art, culture, and history is the eight-point star.
In the Quran, on verse 69, 17, it says, the day of judgment on that day, eight mighty angels will bear the throne of your Lord above them.
This is very specific.
The eight-point octagon is featured in Iranian military intelligence flags in Tehran, in the Turkic states, as well as Azerbaijan.
This is prevalent throughout Islamic art, culture, and history, the eight-point octagon.
And our flags are being replaced, and they are featuring the eight-point octagon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, hang on for a second.
I've got a former Marine, a Lieutenant Colonel, who's going to join us.
Jackie Torberoff and Lieutenant Colonel Donna Bergstrom retire.
She's now Deputy Chair of the Republican Party of the great state of Minnesota.
They're going to come back to us after the break.
Until that time, I've worked a long time.
In fact, we were a couple of weeks late, if you remember, on the end of the Dollar Empire, the fifth free installment The end of economic freedom, we start talking about fiat currency, particularly the central bank digital currency, and we compare and contrast why the central banks of the world are buying gold at record rates.
Why the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States does two things, either monetize, either print money to monetize the debt, or they're working on a central bank digital currency that can track every tiny thing you do.
Not making this up, it's hard to believe, but we lay it all out in the end of economic freedom.
I love the fact of people taking the four first installments.
This is all free.
Go to birchgold.com slash Bannon today.
Get your free fifth installment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, I want to go to the Deputy Chair of the Minnesota GOP, Lieutenant Colonel, retired Lieutenant Colonel Donna Bergstrom.
Colonel, thank you for joining us.
Walk me through, you've been on top of this for a while.
What it struck me, what I couldn't figure out, was why were states like Utah and Minnesota, and they have these magnificent state flags that they've had for over a hundred years, just beautiful, fantastic.
All of a sudden, why are we getting all these weird designs?
And the designs were bugging me, and it wasn't until I read Jackie's piece based upon your research that I realized that star was bugging me.
And I was starting to see it everywhere.
Walk me through why did you come up with this?
What led you to this?
And what does this mean?
unidentified
Well, thank you, Steve, for having me on.
And thank you for having this conversation today.
I appreciate Jacqueline reaching out to me and getting us in this conversation.
I will say to you that our legislators back in 2023 passed guidance that allowed the governor and others to appoint 13 members to change the flag, which they said was needing to be changed because it was racist and out of date.
And this struck me as odd.
It was one of the legislative policy changes that were happening so quickly in our legislators that it sort of flew under the radar.
But once we got our eyes on it, the chairman of the Republican Party, David Hanna, myself, took a look at the legislation and we said, why are we changing this flag?
It's beautiful.
It's the flag that we primarily the same design that we used in the Civil War when Minnesota was fighting in our Civil War.
And it's got beautiful history to it.
For myself as a veteran, I look at that flag and I see I see our history, our Commitment to this nation as a Native American.
I look at that and I see myself on there as a Native American.
Some argue that it's the Native American writing off in defeat.
I say it's a Native American sharing the land with our immigrant culture.
Here are insignificant dates on there.
There's so much history and culture in that flag that it just struck us as very odd why this would have to fly under the radar.
It just really became very curious to us.
Why are we changing the flag in this way?
Why aren't we giving Minnesotans a voice, letting our legislators help us design the flag or vote on the new flag change?
And so again, you start down these cancel culture rabbit holes, and you soon find out there's just a lot more to it than what's at the surface.
And so what I think the legislators sort of hid under this blanket of, oh, it's a racist and out of date flag, really had a lot more to it.
And I really don't want to take any credit for any of the background research, because I think the article really was Jacqueline in promoting this.
And what we have found out though, consequently, the state of Minnesota, is that we've had other communities and states and organizations reach out to us and say, We're having the same thing happen in our state.
Do you know what's happening?
Do you know why we're canceling culture?
Do you know why we're erasing people such as the Native American from our flags and this beautiful history that we have in our flag culture?
And so you start going down this rabbit hole and you realize, I think there's something more to it.
And I don't have a lot of evidence, but truly, if this is what's going to be shaping our American culture going forward, I would think that it's just fair that we have a conversation about it, that we let people know these are some things that we're noticing.
And where is it that we can step in and change it, stop it, or absolutely just make people aware of it?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
There are no coincidences.
There's no coincidence.
But I want to go back and use Minnesota particularly as an example.
When you go back to the Civil War, Minnesota sent such incredible manpower into the Civil War for what was then, I think, the most far western state, at least until I think Nevada was brought in because of the silver mines in 1863 or something.
But Minnesota, you're about as far away from the action as you could and you sent tens of thousands of volunteers down there.
That flag, tell me, how did it exactly, you said it was behind the cover of night.
Was the legislature not part of this?
Was it not a referendum?
Did it not bring in people, average citizens, to comment on the beauty and historical nature of the original flag and then give design things?
Because the things that's replaced these flags or proposed to replace these flags are so god-awful.
It's kind of mind boggling that they could be used as alternatives for really, your flag is a work of art.
How could they have taken a work of art and come up with this?
Can you just take a minute and just walk us through what the process was?
unidentified
Yeah, and that's a, you know, class A head scratcher, as we say in the Marine Corps.
I don't know how they came up with this.
And they wrote the legislation in a way that said in 2024, if nobody brings a proposal to change it, or there's such language like that, that it will become the flag.
So it was a negative approval instead of a positive approval.
And if you know, here in Minnesota, the Democrat, which we call the Democratic Farmer Labor Party, the DFL controls the House, the Senate, and the governor's mansion.
So what happened was they're not going to allow, even if we did try to bring legislation forward that said we don't wanna change our flag in this way, they are not gonna allow us to do that.
So really what just backing up and to answer your question, the legislation was passed that there would be a commission, a state flag commission put together.
Governor got to appoint some folks and some of our other commissions appointed folks.
We had two minority members, Senator Steve Jaskowski and a representative Byron Olson, who were on there and they were not allowed to vote.
Our Secretary of State was also on the commission, who is a Democrat.
And so it seemed really pretty stacked against us.
And again, it was a negative approval that if nobody brought objection to it, that it was going to become the state flag on May 11th.
And that Again, how do we get this changed?
That's what we're trying to do.
The Republican Party of Minnesota launched a Save the Flag campaign.
It's on our Minnesota GOP website, and we've gotten lots of good response from that.
People across the nation, other organizations, like I've said, really reached out to us and said, we want to help you in this way, and how can we help you?
And we're really asking people to contact their legislators, Um, in the state of Minnesota and even the governor and say, we don't like what we're seeing here.
We want to, we want to have a flag that represents Minnesota in a way that represents what Minnesotans are thinking at this time.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, can you hang on for one second?
And Jackie, hang on.
We'll hold you through a break.
I want to get more than 17 examples or 18 examples of what's happening around the country on this.
Very disturbing.
As I think she called it, a cultural coup d'etat.
We're not going to let that happen here, obviously.
It's the War Room.
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