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April 2, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3505: Meltdown Over The Christian Aura Around Trump
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unidentified
I'm here in South Carolina for a Donald Trump rally where thousands of people have been lining up for hours to get inside, showing the endless devotion that these supporters have for the former president.
One of the more striking ways we see this impassioned loyalty from Trump fans is at the end of his rallies, where there's a sudden shift in tone, where it goes from very high energy into almost a solemn church-like atmosphere.
Where Trump gives a 10 to 15 minute sermon, preaching to his crowd, his faithful flock of supporters.
Three years ago we were a great nation, and we will soon be a great nation again.
Initially, his supporters greeted this moment by holding up an index finger into the air, signaling QAnon, the movement of conspiracy theorists, even though the Trump campaign has distanced itself from that movement.
In its place, what we see are people almost in prayer.
The net effect here is Trump has turned the Republican Party into something resembling the Church of Trump.
There are a couple of reasons why Trump is doing this.
One is to deflect and distract from the 90-some charges he's facing.
You know, he's portraying himself as a persecuted political martyr here, as someone who is being targeted because of his supporters' beliefs and not because of anything he's done wrong.
steve bannon
And in the end, they're not after me, they're after you.
unidentified
I just happen to be standing in the way, and I always will.
And another is a more nuts-and-bolts campaign effect.
The Trump campaign can spend less money turning out these voters.
These devotees will come out en masse to vote for him, while on the other hand, Democrats will try to use this against him, will try to use these images to make this seem cult-like.
Let's get this party going!
In order to spook moderate voters back into their column.
Donald Trump as a religious figure, Michael Bender.
I found your article today so interesting because I've been to like a hundred more Donald Trump rallies and they have a certain religious fervor to them, they always have.
But there is something notably different now.
Tell me what you've observed.
Yeah, it's these, like, last 10 or 15 minutes of his rally.
I mean, these rallies have long been known as for being raucous and volatile and off-script.
But now they've changed.
There's a very big tone shift in these last few minutes for his finale.
It's very reverent, soft, reflective music plays throughout the arena.
And he kind of recites this, fairly tightly scripted, especially for former President Trump, a kind of political creed for his magnation.
And I grew up Catholic, it reminded me a little bit of the Nicene Creed we used to say in church.
but I've had other people describe this to me as, no, no, this is an altar call at the end of a lot of Christian services, this kind of ambient music plays, and people come down and proclaim their faith in their Lord and Savior.
And Trump has really, this is how he's positioned himself in this third campaign.
He is the, again, he is very careful not to call himself a Jesus figure, but he very much presents himself as the one true Republican leader.
And we've seen this at multiple levels of the party.
Him replacing supporters at the Republican National Committee with people who are even more loyal to him.
Armed troop twisting in Congress.
To get people to back off endorsements or to back off legislation that might be harmful to his campaign.
And among the rank-and-file level, this is how he does it.
He's turned his rallies into a sort of aesthetic, church-like experience, and supporters eat it up.
at the end of the road you'll see people can bother had to hold their whole you know it will be arms close to the chest and uh...
almost like a praying along with them using this religious language his supporters reacting to him again as a religious figure is that uh...
is that siloing off these voters or is it expanding the tense in this america and america twenty twenty four going into the election in november what do you what are you hearing as you do your reporting on the ground you know what i'm look at talk to a number of from supporters uh... over the past couple of months in a few weeks after that conversation you guys reported in iowa i was talking to a group from supporters in in south carolina and they were telling me how Ciao.
They feel like they have a personal relationship with Donald Trump and that he cares about them.
He doesn't just care about the country, he cares about them.
And it's one of the things that I think may get lost is that, you know, for some voters, and we talked to them, it's about the policies or about the lesser of two evils.
But one of the reasons why Trump's base of loyalists is so steadfast is because they think he's a good guy and they think he cares about them and they don't think that Katie, they don't think he's going to do anything extra constitutional with this next term if he wins it.
They don't believe that he's going to try and stick around after the term ends.
They don't believe that he's going to try and bend the Constitution to his will in any illegal manner.
When he talks about being a dictator on day one, they understand that in their minds to mean he's going to pass executive orders like every new president does on day one.
And so it's just a completely different frame of mind for them.
But one of the reasons why they stick with him is, you know, we can tick off the things that he has done to push voters away.
But he's also, you know, done these things to bring a community of voters closer to him and keep them.
And that's why he is in the position he is in.
nicolle wallace
Go, Andrew Weissman.
And I mean, you're describing ultra-fair.
And I appreciate that you went farther than to say a singular standard.
He now exists in a status only available to him, unavailable to Jeffrey Epstein, wasn't available to Bob.
I mean, it exists only for him.
And I wonder if at some point we stop with all of this.
We say he was too much for the judicial system.
I have some breaking news on that front.
I'll bring it to you in a second.
But I wonder if it's a charade at this point, Andrew Weissman, if we should just have a conversation with the voters, say, listen, it is always up to you who you want to represent you every four years.
But now more than ever, you are voters, you are jurors.
Here's all the facts as I see them.
Is that where we are?
unidentified
I do think that we are at a situation where you do have to ask yourself at a time when you see a federal judge, a sitting federal judge, having to go on air to defend the rule of law.
But you don't see that by members of Congress condemning violence.
You don't see that from the Department of Justice understanding the situation we're in, speaking out in a way For instance, Archibald Cox had spoken out and, you know, you have three former prosecutors here with Claire and Tim and my experience.
And if you would ask any of us, if we ever had a defendant like this, and their name was not Donald Trump.
Would any of us say that the judge wouldn't have hauled that person in and read them, at the very least, read them the Riot Act about what they can and cannot do?
That would have happened the moment of the post being made with respect to the current president.
Remember, this has nothing to do with a gag order.
It is simply a crime to threaten Um, the president of the United States, but it's also something that can lead to having a much, much stricter gag order.
All of that would have happened by now.
And it's the idea that he can say that he's being treated unfairly is is so laughable because I think anybody on this panel would say he's been treated with kid gloves by the system.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
It's Easter Monday, 1 April in the year of our Lord, 2024.
for.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
So the day we did the tale of two cities at the beginning about New York City in the four days, you know, four days in March, Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Holy Saturday, and Easter Sunday, Resurrection Sunday, about what went on in New York and the difference in these campaigns, I said it could encapsulate the choice the nation has, but the direction the nation wants to go in those four days.
Now, Michael Bender, who I think is a very, you know, look, he's New York Times, so he's always going to be biased, but he was over at the Wall Street Journal for years.
He's written a huge piece in the New York Times today about all this Christian imagery, this new Christian imagery that's been infused into the Trump campaign.
And right there, and I really want to thank Denver, and particularly our production team here for doing that great cold open, because that comparison contrast Now, even another subset of of two different sides of this.
You get the Andrew Weissman, Nicole Wallace and all they're doing.
And I keep telling folks and we're going to make some announcements here the next couple of days because we are going to do quite big coverage with Rural America's Voice on the trial in New York City.
And the reason is it's going to be a global media event.
In fact, Hope Hicks was announced today, I think, under subpoena.
She's going to come and be a witness for the prosecution.
Remember, the prosecution, when they send you these subpoenas, you don't have a choice on these trials of not showing up.
And they've got, they're going to be subpoenaing a lot of people.
But this is not about any kind of business records or anything like that.
This is their shot.
The one shot they've got using lawfare to try to Smear Trump, position Trump in the people's minds.
And particularly here, they're going to go to the storm because they think, hey, this is very simple.
You got porn stars, you play bait and bunnies.
You've got the Billy Bush situation.
You're going to have all this.
And that'll be simple for people to understand.
Orange man bad, orange man bad.
So that's what they're going to do.
And the coverage, the global media coverage is going to be unbelievable.
MSNBC, particularly Nicole Wallace and a couple of the they are literally spending every second of every day of, oh, my gosh, I mean, this is pure election interference.
This is never, if you look at and conceive of, or just conceptualize what's happening, never before in American history, ever, not even have we had as much election interference by these radical Democrats.
They do not want Trump to get a fair hearing in front of the American people.
Forget a trial.
We know they don't want that, but in front of the American people.
On the other hand, you're seeing they're all now completely and totally freaked out.
And by the way, if we could prep, which I will call for, Amy Semple Brzezinski, that I've got to play that again.
Amy Semple Brzezinski.
They're so freaked out that their coalition's not coming together.
It's not coming together.
So they have to do two things.
Number one, say that Trump is a cult.
Now, Trump is infusing this with Christian imagery, and Trump is trying to run as Jesus, and Trump is trying to be Christ-like, and we know that Trump is a devil.
That's what they're saying.
Also, at the same time, they're putting out their false, phony, you know, self-serving.
All of a sudden, all of them are in love with Jesus, right?
All of them are Jesus's, you know, Jesus is my bestie.
They're all hugging up on that.
Remember, you probably didn't hear that for, I don't know, years and years and decades and decades, but now it's, uh, they got to do that because they understand in their coalition, certain elements like the Hispanic community and African American are quite conservative, socially, socially conservative.
And they like traditional values, and they don't like what's happening.
Like, here's what they don't like.
They particularly don't like Transgender Visibility Day at the White House on Easter Sunday.
Now, we've got Brandon Showater.
Brandon's going to join me at the top of the six hour, and he's going to walk through, you know, all from Whitmer to President Newsom and First Lady Newsom, you know, their video messages, Biden, Hoko, all of them on this transgender.
And now they realize there's some heat.
They're trying to back off a little bit.
But that is the alternative religion they're putting up, from Christianity, this kind of merger of this, you know, this Gaia-infused voodoo that combines a climate cult with transgender ideology and a little dose of transhumanism on top of it to get some, I don't know, some weird
uh pagan religion for the 21st century and they're freaked out that particularly as Ralph Reed said hey there's 30 million unregistered Christians are now coming to the are awakening to the fact that you have to be in the public square and you have to defend your religion in the public square and you have to fight in the public square.
So we're going to take a short commercial break.
Remember, turbulence all over.
We're back.
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unidentified
You know, somebody the other day said to me, Zerlina, well, but you know, Joe Biden's old.
I said, you know what?
Joe Biden is old.
Let's go ahead and accept the reality.
Joe Biden is old.
hillary clinton
So we have a contest between One candidate who's old, but who's done an effective job and doesn't threaten our democracy.
unidentified
And we have another candidate who is old, barely makes sense when he talks, is dangerous and threatens our democracy.
So really, Pick between your two old ones and figure out how you're going to save our democracy.
Because no matter where you stand on the political spectrum, you want to maintain freedom and the rule of law and protection for people's fundamental rights, or at least I used to think so.
Yeah, I've been very vocal about this.
It's horrifying.
Our numbers among younger voters, particularly black, younger blacks, younger Latinos or whatever, but whatever younger, I don't like younger people of color, particularly males.
We're not shedding them.
They're leaving in the droves.
mika brzezinski
You know, Charlie Sykes, yesterday, you know, celebrating Easter, we went to church, we heard from a pastor who made this point.
I mean, there's so many good points in his sermon, but it's that Easter was a day for renewal, to think about your relationship with God, to think about your relationship with Jesus, because He loves you.
Unconditionally because it's a relationship that you have.
With your God.
With God.
And not religion.
It's not a relationship with religion.
It's not a relationship with politics.
It's not a relationship with a person.
It's a relationship with God.
And today is your day to, maybe it hasn't been so good, but here's your day to come back.
It was very beautiful.
And then, you know, reading in for the show this morning, it was very jarring.
To see a candidate, the frontrunner for the Republican nominee, just... There's a word I want to use, but just tear all over that, that concept, and make it about himself.
steve bannon
Wow, that Carvel.
I think that was from Ari Milberg the other day.
He kind of lays it out.
Their coalition's not coming together.
Not even close.
As he said, they're leaving in the droves.
Part of this is us continue to hammer on the economics of it.
Remember, young people under 35 are the new Russian serfs.
There's a report out today, I think for the first time in American history, it's more expensive to buy and everything than to rent in every different real estate market in the country.
I'll have more on that tomorrow as I can delve into the report overnight, make sure I understand it.
And this is why now they're freaking out.
This is why they're going to hammer Trump thinks he's Christ.
Trump is running a cult.
These people are dangerous.
They're outside the mainstream.
No, no, no.
The Judeo-Christian West is the foundational element in the foundation of the country.
Oh my gosh.
They're going to go crazy.
Isn't this Christian nationalism talk?
This is reality talk about the United States of America.
You can come back with all the multicultural stuff you want, that's all fine.
The Christian faith in this nation has always welcomed other faiths so you to practice your own faith and your own idea of how do you get to God.
But this is, this civilization is built on the foundations of the Judeo-Christian West.
Full stop.
We're the new Jerusalem.
Full stop.
And they're starting to freak out because they see their coalition not coming together.
So they're throwing everything up.
That's why this trial on the 15th is not about business records.
The trial on the 15th.
Is destroy Trump in front of the American people and particularly women.
Although I don't, I'm pretty adamant you don't, you shouldn't go out of your way to chase that vote.
You put forward your program and if it votes for you, great.
If it doesn't, there's many other demographics and coalitions that are being built right now.
You can see in the African American community and the Hispanic community coming more to this populist message every day.
But, you know, Amy Semple Brzezinski shows you what they're going to do.
They're all going to be loving up on Jesus now because they don't really want to expose their true ideology.
What's their true ideology?
You saw it over the last four days and culminating on Easter Sunday.
The most, you know, Christmas is one thing, but Lent and Advent and Christmas obviously ends in a celebration of the birth of Christ.
But Lent, Ash Wednesday, Lent, and then leading up to Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Holy Saturday.
Hey, that's like the real deal.
That's that's the most solemn.
That's like the high holy days in the Jewish faith.
This is the most solemn part of the Christian and Catholic calendar.
Biden is so freaked out now he's issuing one statement after the other that, hey, we didn't you know, I didn't know we did that.
I didn't issue that.
It's some Stafford, no, not good enough.
It was on your letterhead with the big, you know, proclamation from the White House.
You're telling me that Zen master Jean-Pierre doesn't run that stuff by you?
That you just put these massive proclamations under your name?
And I think quoting, had a quote from Genesis?
Brandon Showalter I think is going to get us straight on that in the next hour.
That you didn't know anything about this?
Well, you know, Newsom did because he put out a video and Whitmer did.
It's your new ideology.
You're a confluence, a convergence of this radical climate change, Gaia, paganism.
It's a pagan.
It's a pagan cult, pagan religion coupled with radical transgender ideology.
Another bizarro cult.
And it's a cult.
Don't take it from me.
Take it from Dr. Marion Grossman.
Take it from these experts in the field.
They're sitting there going, now is it totally false and phony?
It's a cult.
The convergence of that.
And this is what you've got.
You've got this radical ideology that's counter.
It couldn't be clearer.
Yes, it's tax policy.
It's national security.
But it gets down to a couple of basic things, like the invasion of the southern border.
That not only it's not stopped, you do understand it's getting worse every day.
One, they want it to be worse.
Two, they think they can get more voters in here, or people that can fake like they're voters.
Number three, they actually want it for the economy.
Their measure of the economy is you're not good enough, you're not buying enough, you won't work cheaply enough, or essentially for free.
So they have to get more people in here.
And also the fact that they know they can be shown the door here quite quickly.
And all this gets about, oh, accountability, these people are going to be wrenched.
We're not revenge.
I said the other day, investigate, litigate, adjudicate, incarcerate.
How's that?
unidentified
Have a flow that have a, you like the process there?
steve bannon
But we are going to investigate.
It has to be investigated.
We're not going to just sit here and let you steal an election.
We're not going to sit here and let you try to destroy this country.
We're not going to just sit here and allow you to destroy the greatest nation in the history of the earth and the citizens of that country, which you're destroying.
We're not going to just sit there and go, that's fine.
No, no, you have to be held accountable.
With great power goes great responsibility.
Well, you stole the power and then you did bad and evil things.
You must be held accountable for it.
As sure as the turning of the earth and I don't care how much you whine and cry and oh no and Nicole Wallace loses it.
She got that whiny teeny voice.
That's where they're putting so much in the 15th.
All the chips are going in the table for them.
All the chips are going in the middle of the table.
That's where they're all going.
Because they have to stop Trump.
Trump is the evil one.
I can't wait till they wake up and understand that President Trump and the movement that he created is a moderate.
He's a good man.
He's got a big heart.
He's a very nice guy.
That's what that great piece right there people think.
They think that he cares about them.
They know that he cares about them.
They think that he's thinking about them.
That's what they say when they go.
This guy understands where I am.
This guy understands where the country is.
He understands how angry I am.
He understands how frustrated I am.
He understands how powerless I am.
And he exudes that and connects.
What did Shaw say?
Only connect.
He connects.
That Biden and these rest can't.
None of them.
It's a joke.
That's where they hate Trump.
They hate Trump because of the connection.
They hate Trump because of the passion of his followers.
And of course, they've demonized you to all over the map.
Orange man bad and orange man supporters worse.
This is why it's the greatest comeback in the American political history.
With virtually no money.
Remember, they're rubbing, they're spiking the football day.
26 million dollars suck on that.
How's that?
And President Trump's got one coming in April.
Now, look, as you know, I'm not fond of that sort of thing, but in modern politics, it's got to be done.
And right now, MAGA's tapped out.
You know you guys are pretty tapped out.
The small donors can't give because they're hurting.
This is why 2016 was the miracle of all miracles.
We ended up in the White House, didn't owe anybody anything.
I told him, you understand that this has never happened before in politics and maybe back at the founding of the Republic.
Roger Kimball told us today about the issues of factions and General Washington's farewell address.
But no, unbelievable.
Trump didn't know anybody.
Here, because Biden's raising $2 billion, President Trump's got to take large donor checks.
I'm not a fan of that, but he's not going to change his fundamental policies.
He may have to, you know, a little bit, because that's just nature of politics.
But Trump, boom, populism.
Trump, boom, nationalism.
Trump, boom, America first.
Just bang, bang, bang.
And they hate him.
Because they understand your commitment to Him, and part of your commitment is you understand, wait for it MSNBC, wait for it, wait for it, no, don't go, wait for it.
He is an instrument of divine providence.
Yep, He is.
Of that there's no doubt.
unidentified
There's empirical evidence of that.
steve bannon
This is one of the reasons people support Him, because they understand He's doing God's will.
To save this republic.
When all rationality said, no, let me not do that.
They win.
Trump wouldn't do that.
Trump would never quit.
Trump would never back down.
And that's why they hate him.
And that's why they must destroy him.
Alex Lagrasse.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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And that first segment, it is Katie Turner.
You see the troubled look on her face.
And Katie was actually the beat report, one of the beat reports.
She said she went to hundreds of Trump rallies, at least hundreds of Trump rallies.
We used to see her all the time.
She has a pained look on her face.
But Vaughn Hilliard of MSNBC, Michael Bender of The New York Times and David Drucker of Dispatch.
That's I want to put that segment up later.
You should see that segment in its entirety.
To get, and I'm not trying to make sure you go through pain because you've got to watch MSNBC, but you need to understand how the enemy thinks.
How the enemy views us, how the enemy breaks this down in information warfare.
Now I've got a brilliant young man that's done an incredible job.
Let me play the cold open.
We got Alex DeGrasse on here of where the war room policy has put its shoulder to the wheel and more victories.
Let's go ahead and have it and we'll bring Alex in.
unidentified
Remember them?
Well, they're in South Carolina and they're looking at a new district map.
A map that courts have already called unconstitutional.
Now, this was the map before redistricting in 2022.
Six Republican districts and one Democratic district.
And now this is the map that was challenged after it was drawn in 2022.
The same number of districts.
But a few changes near Charleston that make one district less competitive than it was before.
Civil rights groups sued.
They argued the map was drawn to intentionally move thousands of black voters into a different district for political reasons and dilute their voting strength.
A three-judge panel, frankly, agreed.
South Carolina appealed.
steve bannon
Let me have it.
So DeGrasse, and I want to go through, we got other better clips too, we're going to play later in the week with you on this because it's so important.
This Alabama, South Carolina, they're accusing, this is Chris Hayes the other day, accusing the court of moving too slow in one time, too quick in the other, that the MAGA movement and Trump have all got this gun deck because of these right-wing MAGA judges on the Supreme Court.
Just pull the camera back for a second.
Where do we actually stand?
What's the situation in South Carolina?
What's the situation in Alabama, in North Carolina, in New York?
Because folks, you have had Alex's back and the team over there's back.
This is all important for what's coming up in November this year, sir.
alex degrasse
So Steve, I think if we do take a step back and thank you, thank the posse, because it's, I mean, Politico has the headline.
I sent it over to Cameron.
I don't know if he's able to put it up, but if you look, boom, right there.
unidentified
This is it.
alex degrasse
This is what we've been speaking about on War Room.
This was the goal.
I mean, we didn't seek to necessarily redraw these maps across the board.
It was the Democrats that played this game.
They went to the media.
They went to, I mean, you had every mainstream outlet talking about a three to four seat pickup just in New York alone.
Down south, another three or four seats.
We were talking about flipping the majority right there, Steve.
I mean, you and I, you know, months and months back, of course, and now As the dust has settled, it's actually a net one Republican pickup, which the first time I think that was discussed was actually at the force multiplier event when we were going through those numbers and we had some breaking data and projections.
steve bannon
Hang on.
I want to make sure the audience understands the impact of this and the lefties that watch this show.
As we went through this and talked, we had the great fights and the great wins in 22 to lead up to that.
But we looked at the map in New York and also looked at the voting rights issues that they were going to come at us in the South.
And it was looking like a six to eight seat pickup.
And that's what they were banging the drum and all over this.
And of course, Mark Elias, all these guys are all over it.
That article the other day and what they're so incensed about as it comes down to this, It's not going to be a six to eight seat pickup by the Democrats.
It could be a net one, net one increase to the Republicans.
Is that where we stand on the 1st of April of 2024, sir?
alex degrasse
Yeah, it is a one.
It's a plus one pickup.
We don't necessarily see any opportunities for any further changes as we draw into the military ballots going into the federal primaries and whatnot.
So we feel this is locked in.
That's why with South Carolina, where they're melting down, you know, they had one lower court rule that had to be looked at.
Then that same court said, Let's do the election because this is sort of getting drawn out.
So they play a big game.
But the reality is New York was really the key, Steve, because they talked about how it was sort of Democrats are being timid.
But it was really Republicans, Elise and some others that were on very hard offense on the counteroffensive in 2022.
We went to court.
We won.
They were very nervous about another lawsuit.
And so they mostly folded.
Due to the pressure and sort of the inside games, we had people actually inside the room with them.
So there you go for everyone watching.
And we were able to play them off each other and got this map through which in New York we can hold every seat and pick up one, we believe, actually pick up two now that we lost New York three.
So everything's in play.
It's very interesting, of course, across the board, but that net one pickup due to North Carolina is critical, of course.
steve bannon
Again, the result... Tell me about what it says, Chris.
State Senate.
alex degrasse
State Supreme Court seat, sorry.
steve bannon
Yeah.
This is what I'm saying.
State Supreme Court.
I want to go to the... They're going crazy about state Supreme Courts and about, I guess, our own U.S.
Supreme Court, too, or the federal.
What is happening on the legal side that looks like it more has our back?
Or am I misinterpreting that?
Because the left, MSNBC, is going crazy that I guess the courts haven't really backed them up at the end of the day, particularly people moving more quickly.
alex degrasse
Well, they've tried to move.
I mean, this stuff sort of came out of nowhere.
I mean, this sort of unprecedented how quick they tried to move.
I think what you see here is, I mean, these guys are tough, these Democrats, but it's a lot of grift.
I mean, they talk a good talk.
They get out there.
The media feeds it.
They get their people in sort of a frenzy.
The money starts pouring in.
They sell this stuff to donors.
And I mean, they really have no legal basis for most of this stuff.
And some of this stuff needs to be really looked at, of course.
And so it's all about the state Supreme Courts.
It's all about state courts sort of broadly on this front.
That's the key, especially in these battleground states and especially in the context of counting the votes in 2024, of course.
So it's all connected.
And it's been sort of interesting how this has played out behind the scenes, as well as sort of out in front with the posse.
steve bannon
We're just, right now, correct me if I'm wrong, Alex, with Gallagher, and it gets so complicated to follow, but we're about 217 to 213 right now, roughly, is that where we are?
alex degrasse
Yeah.
steve bannon
In the house?
alex degrasse
Yeah.
Yeah, we feel good, I think.
steve bannon
In November.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
alex degrasse
I was going to say, I think, Steve, I think Roll Call had and they're sort of good on the campaign back and forth coverage.
I didn't send this to Cameron, but I'll try to when I get a second.
But they talked to and you and I were talking about this article, Steve, where they go through the map and it's really, really tight map.
I mean, it's real tight just due to redistricting.
There's just less, quote unquote, competitive toss up seats.
And in the competitive toss up seats, All of the fundamentals and metrics of which we've talked about on War Room are now being sort of explained by the mainstream media to the rest of the country, where Republicans hold an advantage to pick up seats if we can execute and get a handle on turning out the vote and protecting the vote, of course.
And so now the mainstream media, they're acknowledging our wins on redistricting.
They're acknowledging that House Republicans have very strong structural advantages.
On this map, which is a very, very tight map, as we also discussed at the force multiplier event as well.
Tight map, 34 target seeds.
steve bannon
So in the tight map, it looks like structurally and where we stand, is it 220 to 222?
I mean, is that where people, and I understand you got to execute, you got to be on this.
They're going to become, they're going to be bringing heavy artillery for this, but you've got to feel pretty, pretty good about where we could have been versus where we are today.
Am I incorrect on that?
alex degrasse
That's right.
I mean, we've got strong candidates.
We're getting some of the fundraising and small dollar fundraising where it counts.
Which is in candidate campaign accounts, which is the most critical and important donation that you can make is to a candidate that you support that's sort of on those frontline seats, because the candidate dollars can be spent much more efficiently and effectively just by law and a lot of other reasons as well.
And so that's important, as well as the fact that you've got four Democrats that are in these target seats that are quitting.
We have zero Republicans that are in kind of competitive seats.
All of these retirements are in the conservative seats.
And so it's a much dimmer dynamic than on the Democrat side.
And that's not talked about.
Now you've got five Democrats, actually, with the New Hampshire 2nd District with the leader of the Democrat moderate caucus throwing in the towel.
So, I mean, this stuff is really sort of big deal, actually.
steve bannon
Was that a shocker for you up in New Hampshire?
It caught me by surprise.
Did they catch you by surprise?
alex degrasse
Yeah, I mean, she's tough.
I mean, it's a battleground seat.
It's one that Biden wins single digits.
That's a target seat.
She was well-liked.
I mean, you have some of these Democrats that have built their own name ID.
They've run tough races and they've won.
Think about Spanberg or some of these people, Kilmeade, and they're out.
And all of them are really sort of a surprise to all of us because I think they're going to struggle to hold these seats.
An open seat is much, much tougher to hold, especially when you've got crazy Democrats running in some of these primaries.
I think you've got Vindman and he's a total lunatic.
He's running in that Spanberger seed and he's got massive issues across the board, which we know.
steve bannon
Big issues, but he's raised a lot of money.
You're saying they've also come, when we see these people like Spanberger and these people that she's going to go run for the governor, got it, but they essentially, for the audience, they essentially look, they know it sucks to be in the minority.
They look out there and they say, I've seen the restructuring.
I've seen the redistricting.
I see the map.
I don't see us pulling this off.
I want out.
I'm going to go try something else.
Is that one of the things that is flowing through here that we should focus on?
alex degrasse
Yeah, I mean, they would rather roll the dice at sort of running for Senate and lose than sort of lose in their House seat.
And so that's a big deal because they know that they are in a tough position, Senate or government, governor in the case of Spanberger, of course, Slotkin in Michigan, Senate, of course.
So they're all and they're all not polling well.
And so it's racist that they're running.
And so that's also sort of an interesting situation.
But, you know, the left has a lot of internal problems.
They don't get talked about as much.
You've got this sort of Michigan and Minnesota issue I'm hearing from Democrats in New York with Jewish support eroding rapidly due to a bunch of issues.
So Biden is getting pulled in a million directions and the House Democrats are in free fall.
They were told to talk about Bidenomics.
Now they don't.
Now the only people talking about Bidenomics are House Republicans, of course, litigating the issues.
I think Axios had a good spread on sort of how many times that name was sort of mentioned.
steve bannon
Yeah.
alex degrasse
Who's saying it, of course.
And, you know, they're all trying to figure out what to do, what to say.
And the poll numbers, I mean, they're catastrophic.
You've got illegal immigration and the border invasion being the number one unprompted issue with voters in the Gallup poll, Morning Console poll, Bloomberg, all these polls.
I mean, this is MAGA's ascendant on every single front, Steve.
steve bannon
Real quickly, I know you gotta bounce real quickly.
Mark Elias talked a lot of smack, and we think he's the evil genius.
How did he end up with these terrible results?
alex degrasse
I think a lot of it is...
You know, these guys in D.C., what happens is, Steve, is they push, they push, they push.
You know, they're on the phones and they're trying to pressure these Democrats, right?
You know, you look at New York, for example.
I mean, you have, I know for a fact, because Hakeem Jeffries put out a statement publicly and opposed the sort of bipartisan map that got put out of the commission.
And talk to all types of crazy stuff.
We know that they were desperately working the phones, calling and certainly threatening Democrats.
And a lot of Democrats are afraid politically for their own issues.
And I don't think that game is working much longer with a lot of people.
They don't really care about central Democrat HQ and people calling from D.C.
threatening some of these guys, just like some of our people.
They just want to kind of get by and move along.
They don't want some of the heat.
That's why it's so important that We go on offense on every single avenue we can on this front.
We have the posse calling our people, calling their people, putting the pressure on because they folded.
I mean, that's what happened.
In New York, they folded.
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DeGrasse.
Every time you're on, we're talking about stuff, as you know, the mainstream media has got it as big stories, a couple, because they got to go get their side of it, right?
Is that really happening?
I want to play Carvel, though.
And I'm having you back because, folks, I want you to understand, we're ascendant.
You're getting the job done.
Trust me.
Underneath the hood, people are paying attention.
Let's play James Carvel again from our cold open.
unidentified
You know, I've been very vocal about this.
It's horrifying.
Our numbers among younger voters, particularly black, younger blacks, younger Latinos or whatever, but whatever, younger, I don't like that, younger people of color, particularly males.
We're not shedding them.
They're leaving in the droves.
steve bannon
Leaving in the droves.
We're going to get more into this in a couple of days.
Alex, your closing thoughts and where do people go to follow everything you're doing?
alex degrasse
Thanks, Steve.
Yeah, the issue set, especially for young voters, for African-Americans, Hispanics, of course, illegal immigration, crime, cost of living, sort of jobs here at home, manufacturing jobs, you know, being able to pay for a family, fund a family.
Those are all issues, especially to young voters and all of those minority groups.
And so they're plummeting because the Democrats are a disaster.
We got more to talk about on that.
You look at some of these dark money redistricting groups.
News articles are coming out that they're panicking because they're by accidently registering MAGA and Republicans.
These groups that are not allowed to be partisan, but we'll talk more about that later this week.
But you can see me on Truth.
I'm Matt DeGrasse at DeGrasse81 on Twitter.
Appreciate it, Steve.
Thank you, guys.
steve bannon
Digress, it's amazing.
We're going to have you back on the next couple of days to go through all the rest of it, but hey, we're hammering on the house.
Just, we wish that when they got in there, they were better, but that's a topic for a different day.
Alex Digress, your warrior.
Carmichael, we're making a lot of demands of MAGA, you know, going door to door, knocking on doors, all this.
Go to the ramparts.
You need the heart of a lion to do it, because these are lion hearts.
How do they get better hearts, sir?
crom carmichael
Steve, you are correct and thanks for having me on and I'm holding up a bottle of soul tea.
There are 60 soft gels in this bottle and each one of those soft gels has a high concentration of a particular molecule called theaflavin.
And we've done clinical trials on it with 600 people, and we found that the average person who takes our active ingredient, which is that high concentration of Theaflavin, will see their cholesterol go down an average of 17%.
Now in my case, my bad cholesterol, and we're talking 20 years ago, my bad cholesterol went from 130 to 89.
And it's been under 90 ever since.
My blood pressure's great.
My triglycerides are great.
And I take zero prescription drugs.
I'm 75 years old.
And I think a lot of the reasons for my good health is soul tea.
And the way that you get soul tea, Steve, is you go to warroomhealth.com.
That's warroomhealth.com.
And if you use the code warroom at checkout, then you get 50% off your initial shipment.
And so what you're getting in your initial shipment is you're really getting three bottles for the price of one.
But then on an ongoing basis, what we do is we ship three bottles, which is a three-month supply.
We ship three bottles for the price of two on an ongoing basis in our subscription, and we always pay the freight.
So it works out to about 70 cents a day.
It's a tremendous deal, and having a healthy heart is so important for a variety of reasons.
steve bannon
Where do they go?
Once again, where do they go right now?
Where do they go?
To immerse themselves in information.
You've got tons of information.
Where do they go?
crom carmichael
Go to warroomhealth.com.
That's warroomhealth.com.
Use the code warroom at checkout to get our special offer for the posse.
And thanks so much, Steve.
I appreciate it.
steve bannon
Thank you so much, brother.
I'm here to make a special announcement tomorrow in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Our own Jane Zirkle We'll join David Zier and Jane Zirkle is going to do an interview with Mike Lindell.
You know why Mike Lindell is going to be in Green Bay, Wisconsin?
He's not selling pillows.
He's selling freedom.
He's there at the rally tomorrow with President Trump.
Mike, you're going to speak tomorrow, sir?
mike lindell
Yes, I am.
I'll be speaking, I think, about 3.30 Central Time, somewhere after that.
The pre-speakers start around 3.30.
But I'm going to be there all day, Steve.
I go into the crowd.
I want to tell the people what we're all doing in Wisconsin.
And remember, we're still trying to recall Robin Voss.
That's the RacineRecall.org.
This is our second attempt now after they threw out a bunch of stuff.
That's just one side note there in Wisconsin.
Wisconsin is huge.
It's so important to this upcoming election.
steve bannon
Absolutely.
unidentified
We got to hang on, ho ho ho.
steve bannon
We have to win Wisconsin, I'll be blunt.
You got to win Arizona, you got to win Wisconsin.
You win Wisconsin, Trump's the president.
mike lindell
Absolutely, and I have so many great people on the ground here.
steve bannon
You're going to speak at 3.30 GMT?
Jane Zirker's going to be there.
She's up there tonight.
She's going to interview you.
Probably get you on the morning show.
Talk about this.
Rally is so important in Wisconsin tomorrow.
We must win Wisconsin.
Let me be blunt about it.
Mike, talk to me about deals.
We're going to talk about the election tomorrow and the Robin Voss recall.
Tell me, people want to know about deals, sir.
They're deal-oriented.
Where are the deals?
mike lindell
Well, everybody, you make it possible that I can get to these rallies and speak.
The biggest deal we got going is our $25 extravaganza.
These go anywhere pillows.
These multi-use pillows.
You guys have all been after the American flag there.
We've got Mount Rushmore.
We've got all these.
I use these pillows everywhere.
You bring them with you to the rally.
You can sit on them.
They got great cushion, backrest, sleeping.
It's the best multi-use pillows ever.
And you get two of them for the price of one.
Throw them in the washer and dryer when you get back.
But not only that, you go to the website and we're having our biggest sale ever.
By the way, the open box special just for the war room, for the bathrobes, I just checked, a lot of the colors and sizes are still at $39 a regular, a hundred and some dollars.
There's all the sheets on sale, the six-pack towel sets you've all been taking advantage of.
Lowest price in history, $25.
The Giza Premium MyPillow is where it all started.
We've sold over 80-some million.
$25, no matter what the loft level, king or queen, $25 a piece.
That's it.
The slippers and slides on sale.
Everything's on sale for the wardrobe posse, Steve.
And if everybody can get those phones ringing, 800-873-1062, help support my employees.
They love them more than possible.
steve bannon
And let them know the 10,000 new IRS agents are not going to be able to shut them down.
Mike, we'll see you tomorrow in Green Bay.
Jane Zirkle is going to interview Mike Lindell.
Mike Lindell is going to have a fire-breathing speech.
Brother, thank you so much.
Breaking news, Biden's trying to walk back the transgenderism ideology.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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