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WarRoom Battleground EP 497: The Mental Rot Of Social Media
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room Battleground.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome.
It's Wednesday, 20 March, Year of the Lord 2024.
I want to thank Dave Brat for being here both in the morning and the evening show.
Dave, here's why I needed to bifurcate this because we had such a jam show this morning.
The underlying Issue in this election right now with everything else going on is the economy and particularly the future of the economy.
And when we talk about the three converting factors, the invasion on the southern border, which is adding tremendous costs to our social welfare system, plus destroying our education system, the health care and crushing wages for working class.
As bad as the African-Americans as we had on the show this morning.
Number two is the soon-to-be $50 trillion in debt and now that's embedded.
So even the talk about interest rates that happened today with the Federal Reserve is really, it's important as it always is, but you've got this embedded massive debt that you have to refinance a third of it every year.
The third is the geopolitical crisis, the beginning of the Third World War and the Eurasian landmass that every day sucks us in and has things like supplementals for $60 billion to Ukraine and the operating tempo of the carrier battle groups in the Red Sea and what's happening in the South China Sea.
It just adds more and more to defense costs.
All those combined.
But here's the central thing is you've picked it.
With all the happy talk going on, it's the greatest economy ever and stock market's up, the underpinnings of the American Industrial economy has always been productivity.
That's how you can see what's happening.
And you've done an amazing job just to put aside the cont and the spin and the hype and get down to some very just basic numbers.
So I want to take your time.
This is why I love the six o'clock hour.
It gives me more time to explore it.
So the floor is yours.
You just take it and we'll just roll through the charts as you want to see.
But I want to give a preamble.
You should give a preamble about productivity and why that is so important as a guide Could we be going into more lost decades for America?
dave brat
Yeah, well, you just laid it out very well, the Oxford Don.
I expect no less.
So perfect intro.
And economic growth really is the same as productivity.
You'll see on the graphs coming up, those lines are the same for the past 70 years.
So when you talk about economic growth, that is productivity.
Because productivity, the definition is just how much stuff do you make per hour.
unidentified
Right.
dave brat
So it used to be able to picture the easy to picture this stuff.
You know, how many automobile parts could you make per hour?
How many widgets could you make per hour?
That's productivity and productivity has been going down for the past 70 years.
And so economic growth can be basically broken down into three chunks.
Manufacturing and capital investment is number one, and then human capital and education is number two, and then technological growth is number three.
And so you just got done saying manufacturing, we're putting less capital in the hands of the American worker now.
Manufacturing is declining.
Capital investment is declining.
And as a result, that part of productivity is in a shambles right now.
On top of that, human capital, education, we have huge illiteracy problems now in K-12 education.
Our education system used to be just stunningly excellent in a cross-country comparison.
Now it is not the envy of the world anymore.
And then finally, technological growth, that has always been kind of the residual piece.
It's very hard to measure.
But right now, you're going to find in what I'm about ready to present, that part is problematic because technological growth is now tied to huge problems with the distribution of income.
The dissemination of technology is not even making its way down through the top firms.
The Magnificent Seven have captured technology monopolies, etc.
And so there's the basic overview, right?
The economic growth is made up of those three pieces.
All three pieces are problematic right now.
And then, as I said on the earlier show, this is the one you cannot escape.
And that's why the numbers are going down, down, down.
The left has been faking us out, right?
We have a border invasion.
They focus on the cheap labor.
The Tyson plant is the perfect example of that.
They're going to import refugees and cloak it in, hey, we're doing good deeds.
Well, what are the people left behind going to do that you just displaced?
What are they going to do?
You know, you've got just massive psychological problems, family problems that come to bear on American workers.
And then you get welfare problems and addiction and unvirtuous cycles for the American people.
And so the left has been able to cloak a lot of this stuff, right?
The runaway government spending, the green deals, the border invasion, the endless wars, the debt just goes up, up, up.
And as I said this morning, the Tea Party friends, The MAGA friends all say, Dave, when does this end?
Well, the way it shows up is in productivity.
So let's just get to the charts.
If Denver wants to put up the first one, these will be pretty quick.
I put this one up probably 20 or 30 times on this program because it's so fundamental.
And so what you're looking at there is productivity over the last 70 years.
So the main point is we used to have, way back in 1948, on the far left of that chart, labor productivity.
Yeah, sure.
real hourly compensation.
As I said, these are the same things.
So what you're looking at is your lived experience.
You're not imagining that things are getting worse.
Your average hourly take-home pay is going down, down, down.
steve bannon
People would say, how in the 1940s or pre-1940s could that be the case?
Because productivity is a function of how smart and hardworking your labor force is, right?
Coupled with the technology and technological and process development.
So how can you go back almost 100 years or 80 years and have it more?
Aren't we a better educated society?
We have more access to information.
The internet's giving you access to all the information known to mankind in its history.
Technology, every day I'm hearing about technology improvements.
So if that's the formula, if those are the inputs to get to the output, how can we look at a time that most people would say is fairly rudimentary as far as all that, and that be more productive, sir?
dave brat
Yeah.
Well, as you stated at the intro, and I wish we had Brother Navarro with, because this is his bailiwick, but the rough on manufacturing, we all know.
We gave up the manufacturing base and sent all of those jobs over to China and the rest of the world now.
That decimated manufacturing.
Those were the high-paying jobs.
Manufacturing, Henry Ford, you go back to that history, right?
Productivity went through the roof with the assembly line.
People were rich.
The white picket fences and all this kind of thing.
And then the human capital.
Right now, the consultants would tell you that even at the college level, parents and kids don't put education in the top 10 reasons they want to go to college.
Right?
They want a good football program, a good meal court, good curb appeal, good reputation, so you can get a job.
And education, as you see at Harvard and just the scandals taking place in higher ed right now, intellectually, is just a disaster.
People have not stuck to the jobs that lead to productivity.
Everybody's doing gender studies and all this radical Marxist stuff.
For real!
And it shows up in the data.
The test scores, the NAPE international test scores, are just flat as a pancake with all this increases in spending.
And then finally that third piece, technological growth, has not disseminated down through the people, right?
We thought we were going to have a dot-com bubble in 2005.
We had a little productivity pop right there, but it wasn't permanent and it's way down.
So now the kids are surfing the web, doing social media.
China on TikTok, the number one profession, their kids want to take part in, according to the Chinese data, they want to be astronauts.
When the TikTok version for the US...
comes over, it's not restricted to any age group.
It doesn't talk anything about science and technology.
It's all social media and cultural rot.
And our kids, the number one response that they want to be is a social influencer.
And so that tells you the productivity kind of answer in a nutshell right there.
The Chinese kids want to be astronauts and our kids want to be social influencers.
And so we can go to the next chart, Denver.
The first chart shows the last 70 years.
This next chart I've also put up several times on the War Room.
And it shows that the next 30 years, productivity will be roughly 1.5%, right?
Under 2% for the next 10, and then 1.5% for the next 30 years.
And so if you look at that 70-year graph progression, you don't need to put it up, Denver.
But we ended up kind of down at 2% range, one and a half percent.
A CBO is telling us, and so you got to say, scratch it, what do they know that we don't know?
Why is productivity going to be stuck at one and a half percent?
Because of all the fundamentals we just got done listing.
We're not putting capital in the hands of the American worker to enrich them.
We're sending everything abroad and making it cheap and then hiring, you know, foreign-born workers who took up all the new jobs for the past several years in the recent labor reports to take jobs from the American people.
And so CBO has that long-run forecast based on the fundamentals.
And then the next chart is the doozy.
Denver, if you want to put up the next one, is a multicolored chart.
And this one requires a little explanation.
So this is put together, and this caused quite a stir, by Robert Gordon, the leading productivity economist in the world, who's been doing this work for, you know, 40 years.
And he's regarded as one of the 50 most influential people in the world by Bloomberg, right?
So this is not a fluff piece from right-wing politics.
This is a substantive research agenda.
That's been going on.
He starts off with the kind of what he calls an optimistic vision of just assuming 2% productivity growth.
Then he begins this modern project, what we've just been talking about, stripping out.
And this is for the bottom 99% of the people.
So what we're talking about will affect you.
This is for everyone except for the 1% super wealthy.
They're going to reap all the rewards from the technological piece.
So here's what's coming at you.
So we start off at 2%.
Then you strip out, for starters, the baby boomer demographic piece.
That takes you down to 1.6%.
Then you strip out the educational decline.
That gets you down to 1.4%.
Then you strip out the inequality piece we've been talking about, which has negative economic effects.
That brings you down to 1.4%.
Then you throw in more globalization, more loss of manufacturing jobs.
That brings you down to 0.7%.
Then you bring in David Walsh and the higher energy taxes and losing our energy dominance across all sectors.
And that brings you down to 0.5% productivity growth.
And then finally you throw in the consumer debt payments that you've been reporting on the war room where the kids have a 20% interest rate and you have huge defaults now on credit and firms are having credit problems.
So all of that together, he calls these the major headwinds facing us.
And by the way, he did not include artificial intelligence in here, which would even blow a wider hole in the income distribution figures.
And he did not include the endless wars, which would bring productivity down to zero or negative.
So you throw in all those headwinds, you start at 2% productivity, and he says it's plausible that productivity and long-run economic growth could end up at 0.2% by the recognized leader of the field in productivity Some of the modern economists, Krugman, Paul Krugman says, you know, my gut just tells me it's wrong, right?
No numbers from Krugman, nothing, because this is devastating to the leftist agenda.
And, you know, this is not a political remark, this is an economic remark, but this is the managed decline.
This is the chaos.
This is the manifestation of the spiritual war We talked about on this morning's show.
The left used to be characterized by liberals.
I liked having lunch with liberals.
They were fun.
You could at least argue about the data.
They were usually wrong.
They're optimistic.
They're well-intentioned.
And they decimated education.
But they did care about the kids.
Who on the left, right, the magnificent seven CEOs, who's mentioned the kids in the New York City schools, the Boston schools, the Chicago schools, the San Francisco public school system?
Where is any attention to the productivity of those kids and their future well-being?
It's nowhere to be found.
And so the last chart just kind of summarizes what's been going on according to This thing is broken at the width of those blocks you're looking at.
The green and the red are very wide at the bottom because they took place from 1890 to 1972.
1890 to 1972. So that's 80 years of high productivity growth in the green and then high economic growth in the red, which as we've been saying the whole time, those are roughly identical.
When you talk about productivity, you're talking about economic growth. And then you see a little blip, we're losing hours worked in the labor force.
Then you get the 1972 to 1996. So there's about a 15 year period. And you see productivity going down. GDP growth is still okay. And labor force hours went up.
But now we're moving toward the modern period, 96 to 2004, right?
So eight-year period, there's your dot-com bubble with some technological breakthroughs with the cell phone.
Some of it made its way into the workforce, made us more efficient.
And so you see a nice spike in productivity there and a nice spike in economic growth, but a decline in workforce hours.
Now the next piece, which is smaller, from 2004 to 2013, where this paper ended, is really the same as it would be going all the way up till today.
So here's what you're looking at today, right?
You're seeing productivity down at 1.3.
You're seeing economic growth down at 0.76, less than 1%.
And you're seeing a loss in worker hours as well.
And so that's the trajectory we're on.
I wish I had, I don't like coming on and giving this news, but it's a wake-up call because the policies on the war room are all correct.
But we need you out there to spread the word on why they're correct.
When you see that we've lost jobs to China, all of our manufacturing, not all, but huge proportions of manufacturing, and it hurts the American people, then we need a new China policy.
When you see K-12 education being decimated, it's clear we need new education policy, and we need to privatize it and give the money back to the parents who will do the right things by their kids.
The only thing that's gone up with all the spending, right, LA, Los Angeles, spending on education right now is $50,000 per student in Los Angeles, according to Heather McDonald at the Manhattan Institute.
And so with $50,000 that's in Ivy League education and the kids, 30-40% are illiterate.
The only thing that's going up is paid bureaucrats who are enforcing leftist ideologies.
They're not teaching Johnny and Mary reading, writing, and arithmetic anymore.
And then technological growth, AI, artificial intelligence.
Steve covers it all the time on the show.
It's a scary piece.
It's going to take place, right?
The rest of the world is going to engage in it, even if we try to do the right thing.
And that will have huge implications for even greater divides in the income distribution.
So the New York's and the Chicago's and the San Fran's.
The people that Burquam interviewed on today's show, they'll be screaming louder.
Hey, this is not a fair deal.
And so in the end, this is an ethical issue, not just economics.
steve bannon
It is.
I've got a, and I just need to hold it for a few more minutes, but I got another bombshell to drop here.
If I've done the math correctly, and this is for our audience, we're trying to, remember, we're trying to get people as smart as possible about the really the most significant issues of the day and not just throw out talking points.
It's Gordon himself that recalculates this and thinks it could be 0-2% productivity, correct?
I just want to make sure I've got the right author of that number.
And he's the expert everybody turns to, correct?
Both liberals and right-wingers.
When does he view that we will get to a 0.2% productivity?
Because this year, the way we're going, we're going to be about 1 to 1.25% productivity, I think, or 1 to 1.5% just in this calendar fiscal year, right? 2024?
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
So when, in his work, when does he get to, when does he get to, potentially we get to 0.2?
dave brat
Yeah, he ends that paper in 13, but he has that 0.2% as the productivity growth that will likely go out to 2032 and beyond, perhaps out 30 years.
And so he's just saying based on the trend lines, right?
And the trend lines I showed you are not in dispute, right?
It's been going steadily downhill for 70 years.
And then CBO confirms those trend lines going down for the next 30 years.
And then he confirms it and says, if you throw in all the headwinds and you take out the top 1% and all the gains that go to them, we're left with 0.2.
steve bannon
Yes.
Yeah.
unidentified
0.2.
steve bannon
OK, which route?
OK, I just want to so and people should know, CBO means Congressional Budget Office.
Once a year, they do it.
dave brat
That's right.
steve bannon
They do a big analysis and afford.
People should understand that in their current and this one, I want to get back to the macro models to make a point here.
When CBO just did their big analysis and going forward, of which, you know, they're projecting trillion to trillion and a half to two trillion deficits every year.
They're the guy saying the 50 trillions on the horizon is probably going to hit us forward.
And they're a little bit like, although they're center left, they're a little bit like Caesar's wife on the hill.
Right.
When they did that, when they did as we exposed and broke the story, they have actually embedded 10 million illegal alien invaders as part of the workforce.
They actually say that this is how, you know, this is how.
And that wasn't, you didn't get to that until you played 20 questions.
I was watching a C-SPAN where they did a presentation.
It's not the congressmen, it's the congressional staffers that finally goes, yeah, well, you know, we do have 10 million, you know, immigrants, you know, new arrivals.
That's driving costs down.
My point to you is that as horrific as all these numbers are, as horrific as all these numbers are, There's two big games going.
Number one, if we do get, and I believe you're right, with the trend of the 0.2% productivity, the crash comes faster and it comes harder.
Because right now when people are talking about models, we're talking about 50 trillion, as bad as that seems, that's on a set of assumptions that are rosy in comparison to what reality is going to be.
And every day we're getting more reality.
The reason you saw the African-Americans that are and they're the ones pitching the great replacement theory I asked on this morning show.
That's not a Steve Bannon or a Tucker Carlson.
This is these folks saying, hey, they're replacing us.
Right.
When it gets to zero point two percent, the explosion on debt, the the need of a social safety net for more people because they're not going to be there's not going to be this type of jobs around you.
This is not no longer a ticking time bomb.
This is something that's up in your face that's going to happen.
And here's what's different.
We have been talking about lost decades like the Japanese 30 years.
Three lost decades in a row because of asset inflation and bringing that down.
The whole thing with Rogoff and debt being over 100% of GDP.
All of these warning signs.
This is the most serious, because this shows you you can have a Weimar Republic-type collapse.
That literally, if you go down this path and continue down this path, and the big shots on, and when I talk to the guys on Wall Street, the guys supposed to be the tough, thinking guys, I get, 75% of those give me the happy talk of, well, artificial intelligence is going to bail us out.
Technological advancements are going to come and bail us out.
And I go, well, hang on.
I said, not only is that not going to bail us out, that's going to exacerbate the problems for big sectors of the economy.
One is going to be the coders, because I think the coders, the mid-range, which are 80% of the people, you know, just learn to code.
They're the first guys that are going to get wiped out because artificial intelligence is going to do that.
You know, they won't do the Mozart, you know, they won't do the Mozart genius type coding, but everything else.
Dave Brat, we've got a couple of minutes.
This has been brilliant.
It's been sobering.
Give me your closing thoughts on this.
dave brat
Yeah, well, you just said Robert Gordon also weighs in.
He's not as optimistic on the productivity gains from artificial intelligence.
And, you know, he quotes other Nobel laureates.
They say, I see productivity everywhere, except I don't see it in the data.
So, you know, the cheerleaders on Wall Street, they're always in, you know, they're pushing up this bull market.
It's all going to crash.
We all know it's going to crash.
And it's just a matter of when, right?
When does the Fed stop printing money?
When does the government quit doing massive deficit spending?
When does the bond market call in the chips here?
When does the rest of the world call in the chips?
And as you said, this does not include the implications of having a trillion dollars in interest on the debt right now and potential wars, right?
We haven't included what happens if the Ukraine-Russia thing escalates somewhat.
What if Taiwan becomes an issue?
What if the Red Sea becomes an issue and it closes down world trade somewhat?
Those are supply-side shocks that aren't covered here.
And it's also hard to cover productivity, right?
You hear, well, we're gonna use all this cheap labor coming in.
But economics is about the full cost, what you can't see.
And what you can't see is the decimation you're doing and the social costs that are gonna spill over onto the hospitals, the drug units, the psychological care needed.
Those are costs to your economy that are buried and are hard to measure.
And that's what the economists will not cover because they don't wanna ruin the bull market.
steve bannon
you Dave, what's social media?
Where do people go to get these charts?
You're going to put them up after the show, so where do people go?
dave brat
Yep, Brat Economics on Getter.
Brat, B-R-A-T, Economics on Getter.
I'm out giving talks around the country.
I've got an email address there if you want to look me up and tell me what city you're in.
And of course, bring young scholars to Liberty University.
We'd love to have a visit with them and you as well.
God bless.
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Dave's going to be in and out of D.C.
this week.
Maybe we'll get him back over to the War Room.
Dave Brat, thank you.
Honored to have you on here.
Great as usual.
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unidentified
all this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon. So I am resigning as President and Leader of Finnegale effective today and will resign as Taoiseach as soon as my successor is able to take up that office.
I know this will come as a surprise to many people, and a disappointment to some, and I hope at least you will understand my decision.
I know that others will, how shall I put it, cope with the news just fine.
That is the great thing about living in a democracy.
steve bannon
Okay, kind of an earthquake in a country that we focus a lot on, not just because of my Irish heritage, because it is actually a bellwether for what's happening in the globalist takeover of the nation-state.
We're going to go from County Clare to Rome to the United States.
We've got great coverage here.
We've got Dr. Bradley Thayer is with us, Ben Harnwell is with us in Rome, and of course the great Writer and thinker and political activist Michael Walsh joins us from County Clare.
So Michael, just tell our audience we covered pretty extensively this issue, you know, first the Irish passed, I guess it was abortion first, gay marriage second, and now this is the third one, how to break the traditional family.
Walk us through what led up to this because this was kind of a shocker, I think, except for guys like you that have been following this And really being an activist on this behind the scenes.
Walk us through what led up to this and then what happened today.
michael walsh
Well, I think we start with the breaking of the authority of the Catholic Church in Ireland, which was basically overthrown within the past decade or so.
That is, the hold that the Church had on the people, the strength of the Irish Catholic version of Catholicism, That had to go once Ireland joined the European Union.
And it joined because it had a gun to its head called the Lisbon Treaty, which the Irish population had previously rejected some decades ago, a couple decades ago now.
And then they were forced to vote on it again until they got it right.
And they finally, on the second vote, got it right.
They joined the European Union.
And ever since then, Stephen, this is the crucial thing.
The church was deinstitutionalized, and the Irish leadership became responsible not to the people of Ireland, or to the Republic of Ireland, but to the European Union.
So, Ireland, which as you, I don't have to tell you, was suffered under British control for seven or eight hundred years.
It lost its language, it lost its religion legally, so Catholicism had to be practiced in the hedges.
It lost its right to its own property.
It had its houses torn down around its head.
The people were expelled on, effectively, slave ships to the Caribbean or Louisiana, where they worked as indentured servants.
It lost 50% of its population within a couple of years, thanks to the man-induced famine.
So all of this has stunted the growth of Ireland as a real country country.
It's worth remembering it's only been a state for 100 years, but it's been a nation forever.
And it's a point that I keep raising here in Ireland where I am now, and where I went back and connected myself with my own family and moved my family here to Ireland.
So that's how much of an immigrant's journey I have made and the Walsh-O'Brien family has made over the last century plus.
It all came apart once it started to you.
And then Leo Varadkar, who just resigned, is half Indian.
He's an outspoken homosexual.
He's married to an American guy, I believe.
He was the New Ireland, and they're very, very proud of the New Ireland, which is secular, Which is actually anti-religious, pro-abortion, and we got gay marriage, we got pro-abortion.
We had a referendum on taking the words mother out of the Constitution, and woman, and replacing it with some neo-LGBTQ language.
And that was resoundingly defeated two weeks ago, just crushed.
And it's the first time the Irish people have stood up Since the Veradker and Co.
came in, the EU came in and said, no more of this, this far and no farther.
And at that point, we knew somebody had to walk the plank, and it was Leo, who was just in Washington two days ago, looking like a little lost lamb, trailing an obviously senile Joe Biden, who P.S.
isn't even Irish, he's only less than half Irish, around for St.
Patrick's Day.
To quote the musical Chicago, they had it coming, and now we'll see what they do next.
One last thing, no one ever voted for Leo Varadkar to be the Taoiseach, that is, the Prime Minister of Ireland.
He was installed in a parliamentary coup, and then his successor will also be installed in a parliamentary coup, unless the growing public pressure all day today, Twitter's been full of this, to call a new election is heated.
But I don't think it will be.
steve bannon
Let me ask you, before I go to Dr. Thayer, is that we had the situation with the immigrants in Dublin, I think, with the little girl a month or so ago.
That had kind of a firestorm, but the overwhelming response to that is that The men and the mothers, particularly the mothers, that tried to stand up for the little girls were at fault.
They're a bunch of racists.
They're a bunch of nativists.
They're the worst elements of the old Irish society.
And then you've had this, and it seemed to me different than the abortion and different than the LGBTQ, the marriage vote.
That they got a little bit arrogant.
Was this because they were too arrogant and didn't press the case hard enough?
Or are you seeing, both in the Dublin situation with the moms and the people having enough of these girls being molested, or just, you know, People bothering them and also this vote for traditional Irish language or traditional language or just the English language about mothers and the concept of a mother is central to the family.
Is it a real rising of what I would call a MAGA mentality in to make Ireland great it again and particularly the original Ireland or is this they just are so arrogant they took it for granted this was going to be a blowout win?
michael walsh
No, they are arrogant.
They refer to any of us, you, well, you're a demon over here, so congratulations.
I'm a lesser demon.
But we're referred to the far right.
It's a term they use for anyone who disagrees with them is a member of the far right.
So immigration has become a huge issue in this country.
It's effectively untrammeled.
People arrive here with no passports, no identity documents.
They destroy them on the planes.
They throw them away when they get on the planes.
They come here and the world is theirs for free.
Ireland has now run out of space to put all the people that are coming here for free housing, a weekly stipend, free clothes, free this, free that.
Especially from the Ukraine, which the Irish government in its infinite wisdom has decided that in order to fight Vladimir Putin, they're going to make it attractive for Ukrainian draft dodgers, which Zelensky needs in his army to come to Ireland, all expenses paid forever.
And at some point, people have finally decided they've had enough of this.
The stabbing of the little girl in Dublin a month or so ago, Outraged everyone, but it was demonized as the far-right reaction.
That explosion that was seen after that little girl was wounded was not organized by anybody.
The day it happened, you could see Twitter coming alive with people saying, we've got to protest this, we've got to stop this.
But they're called racists.
The most important thing to know is what this current Irish government wants is the new Ireland.
The new Ireland is secular.
It's multiracial.
It's gay.
It's every leftist wish on the planet is what they want to have happen.
And the Irish people, especially out here in the countryside where I live among farmers and my relatives, have just about had enough of this.
And you're seeing it.
And I think, Leo, saw the handwriting on the wall and he decided to bail first.
But it's important to know we're ruled by a coalition government of the two major parties.
You talk about in America the uniparty, but here it's an actual fact.
There are two parties, Fine Gael and Fianna Foyle, and they joined together because neither could get a majority in the last election a few years back.
And they still couldn't form a government without the Green Party, which is effectively communists.
And they gave all the important ministries to members of this tiny party that nobody votes for.
And the country is essentially ruled by the Green Party as the ministers of youth and children and tourism and all the various ministries.
And the shameful thing is the leader of the alleged opposition party, Michal Martin, his name is, said today, oh, he thinks this unit party has got to last out its five-year mandate, and he's not going to resign, or he's not going to break up the thing.
I call it the racket.
Stephen, you know, being an Irishman like myself, if there's one thing we're good at, it's rackets.
We invented Tammany Hall, effectively.
unidentified
Well, Aaron Burr invented it, but we perfected it.
michael walsh
We know how to lie, cheat, and deceive better than anybody on Earth.
Well, right now, we're living the dream right here in the old country.
steve bannon
Unbelievable.
Dr. Bradley Thayer, you've covered this for us extensively.
Your observations, sir?
bradley thayer
Well, I think Michael Walsh really got it right in his observations that The Taoiseach Leo Varadkar had to walk the plank as a result of the referendum now on March 8th.
But that was a very important signal.
Steve, you remember the New York Daily News headline, Ford to City, Drop Dead.
Right, in 1975.
Well, the Irish people gave that message to the Uniparty, as Michael Walsh puts it, or the Racket, as he mentioned.
The Ireland and Irish politics are going down the wrong direction.
The political parties are not listening to the Irish people.
It's not clear whether Sinn Féin will switch tact.
Right now it's fully in accord with the dominant parties, but we'll have to see whether there's the opportunity for Sinn Féin to take a more nationalistic direction in the future.
I think the Irish people are also saying, like Lee Anderson in the UK, where Lee Anderson was a Tory, a Conservative Party member of Parliament, who switched to the Reform Party.
And he said, in essence, he said explicitly, I want my country back, right?
The reason why I'm leaving the Conservatives or the Chinos, Conservative in name only, to go to Reform was that Reform was actually fighting for the British people.
Well, the Irish people, I think, have the same element there.
They want their country back.
They want to essentially free themselves from the tyranny of Brussels.
And whether they'll be successful at that, it'll be a long struggle.
Ultimately, they will be successful at so doing, because the elites have misruled them, right?
You really now have the tyranny of these second or third rate elites.
And the events, for example, of November 2023, the horrible night where the Algerian who was living in Ireland attacked those innocents, the children, And an adult.
The rape gangs, Steve, that have been operating, of course, and just the high levels of crime, the Irish people are trying to send a signal to those in power.
And those in power are just plugging their ears and saying, you know, we can't hear you.
We choose not to hear you.
And so it's a very dangerous situation.
Varadkar also said he wanted to get out before June, right?
He wanted to give Fianna Gael the opportunity to get its sea legs back, to get on its feet before you have local elections in Ireland and European parliamentary elections in early June.
So that, to some degree, explains timing.
But he had to walk the plank for the disaster of the referendum.
But from the elite perspective, they don't want to change anything.
And although they fail this time in the referenda, they're going to find ways to bring about the changes that Michael Walsh so well described in Ireland to keep that going, to keep that moving without any change.
steve bannon
Ben Hardwell, to this point, the European parliamentary elections, we're spending a lot of time on that in June.
I do agree with Thayer.
That's one of the reasons he bolted or got thrown overboard.
They've got to focus on that.
You have populist uprisings all throughout Europe.
You have, Nigel's now back and he's returning to lead the Reform Party and he's actually talking about maybe making a run at it this time.
You have the farmers that, in Poland overnight, you got the farmers that are throwing down hard, the farmers in Germany, Alternative for Deutschland.
Is the overthrow of the church in Ireland, is that just taking out any kind of nationalistic, I mean, do you feel that Ireland will join this, will join this movement that's really pan-European right now?
ben harnwell
Well, let's wait and see, Steve, as far as the Catholic Church is concerned.
The demotion in the place, the historic place of Irish society, it has a lot to blame for its own, it has a lot of responsibility to take.
I think the Catholic Church, especially in Ireland, but we've seen it right across the Western world, lost a lot of credibility around 20 years ago, that it still hasn't restored due to the so-called clerical sex abuse scandal.
And that's something I think we as Catholics need to acknowledge.
We didn't help.
We didn't help ourselves.
We didn't help our own voice in the public square with that and those abuses that went on for many decades.
As a consequence of the demotion, if we can call it that, of the Catholic Church in Irish public life, the left have been able to, and I say the left, also very strongly, secularism, let's call it secularism, it's a more accurate term, has been able to infiltrate the two traditionally centre-right political parties in Ireland, Fianna Gael and Fianna Fáil.
So, okay, what I want to say, here's my takeaway on this, because what happened in the referendum and then the manifestation of the consequences of that today less than two weeks later, my takeaway is this.
I mean, firstly, Steve, it underlines everything we're saying on the war, and this is important to point out, about how out of touch our sociopathic overlords are.
My takeaway, Steve, is just how surprised They were to find out how out of touch they were with the double referendum result on March the 8th.
Both of those came in at around, I think, around 70%, 67% and 73% in those two results, and around about a 50%, slightly under 50%.
Turn up.
And the political establishment, which Michael Walsh and Dr. Thayer have both pointed out, all of the main political partisan island supported yes, yes on those results.
All of them, basically.
The country voted no, no.
And the entire political establishment and all the NGOs and all of civil society and what have you, they were all blindsided by this.
That is my takeaway.
These people are not only out of touch.
They don't realize how out of touch they are.
And as Dr Feyer and Michael Walsh both mentioned, Leo Varga did name check the fact that he's leaving now to give two months to elect a new leader.
Ahead of the European elections, the all-important European elections on June the 8th and June the 9th, of which our European sociopathic overlords are running scared.
They are absolutely terrified because they know, Steve, we say this every day, but this is the proof, you know, this is the shock resignation day.
This is the proof.
These people, they know the grains of sand are running through the hourglass.
They know their time is up.
steve bannon
Fantastic.
Hang over a second.
Mike Walsh, we got about 90 seconds.
Is a MAGA-type party or is a populist-type party like Alternative for Deutschland or Sons of Italy, is that, you're the expert.
Do you see that arising in our beloved Ireland?
michael walsh
No, because the racket will prevent it.
We have the dampest electoral system here, which the British gave us after the partition of Ireland back after the Civil War and the Revolutionary War.
Which is single transferable vote, aka ranked choice, which means you vote a whole list of people and then it's interpreted by the vote counters to come out any way they want it.
It's very hard for an alternative party, Steve, you and I have discussed this a few years back, to get on the ballot in the first place.
There is no effective opposition.
Mr. Hardwell just said that they were all in agreement about this and they were blindsided because they've just got their heads so far up their arse, as we say here in Ireland, that they could not see this coming.
But the system itself needs to be changed because it's not a real democracy.
It's a Tammany Hall style democracy in which everyone rewards everyone else with various ministries and perks and the NGOs Michael, how do people get your latest book?
of them. And they get money from the government, they advise the government. It really is a racket, Stephen. I must say, as the grandson of a Boston Irish politician, I can only look upon it with awe and envy to see how well the home country has learned the Irish American lesson.
steve bannon
Michael, how do people get your latest book? Where are they going to get all your writings?
michael walsh
Oh, yeah, big news.
What is now available for pre-order is called Against the Corporate Media, 42 Ways the Press Hates You.
And it is a sort of sequel to Against the Great Reset, which we published a couple years back.
It's 42 different writers.
On all aspects of media malfeasance, everything that's been frosting you about the media for the last 10 or 20 years, it's in the book.
And that's available on Amazon for pre-order right now, this week.
steve bannon
Mike Walsh, thank you very much.
Great report from Ireland.
Dr. Thayer, your social media, where do people get your writings?
bradley thayer
Bradley Thayer at Getter, or Bradley Thayer at Truth, or Brad Thayer at X. And Steve, very pleased that you contributed the foreword to Embracing Communist China, America's Greatest Strategic Failure.
unidentified
Thanks very much, Steve.
steve bannon
Love the book.
Ben Harnwell, our audience loves you.
Where do they get you?
ben harnwell
Thanks so much, Steve.
On Getter at Harnwell.
And compliments to Bradley Thayer, who picked up the Irish result before the International Bureau today.
unidentified
Yeah.
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